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Speaker 1: Dinosaurs are back and they are not happy. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Dan Hensas and I'm joined in a room

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Speaker 1: that's filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, Kanye Fox,

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Speaker 1: and Greg Rows with all what's up people? Hey? Dan? Hey?

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Speaker 1: It Thursday Thursday show. Fresh and fresh as a daisy.

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Speaker 1: After attending the NFL Talent sum Big Hit, I think

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Speaker 1: with Matt money Smith, who we just heard. Uh what

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Speaker 1: a guy. I mean I felt that way before, but

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Speaker 1: And Money, who, if you don't know, does the vocal

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Speaker 1: out in Minnesota quickly texted me when that went up

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Speaker 1: the Summit is this event that's held right by the

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Speaker 1: removing Winston to me doesn't remove any chance they have

429
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Speaker 1: to win. Ryan Fitzpatrick, for all his problems, went two

430
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 1: and one as the start. That the Bucks won two

431
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: out of three games with Fitzpatrick as a starter, And

432
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 1: you can do the math. We're not very good with

433
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Speaker 1: Winston as the starter. Fitzpatrick and one of those games

434
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: look great. One of them he looked terrible. It was

435
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,479
Speaker 1: we know what Fitzpatrick can do when he's on. I mean,

436
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: my you say Ryan Griffin could win the job. I

437
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: feel like he'd have to blow them away. And really,

438
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: I know they like him, but they have to He'd

439
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: have to really earn their trust to start the season

440
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 1: ahead of Ring enough to cut him, which they've done before.

441
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 1: Well they I'm only saying that because at the time

442
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: that he had a season ending injury a year ago,

443
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: the belief in Tampa was Fitzpatrick was not going to

444
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: make the team and that Griffin was going to be

445
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 1: the backup. I would still think Fitzpatrick is the fie

446
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 1: got hurt as I were called hard knocks last season,

447
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 1: and let's face it, we should have seen this coming

448
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: because Ryan Fitzpatrick always finds a way into the lineup

449
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,200
Speaker 1: at some point in every NFL season and will be

450
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 1: this way until the end of time. It's gonna happen again, Dan,

451
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: you're the hard knocks guy. I mean, the league has

452
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: to be counting its blessings that this isn't the year

453
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: the bucks around hard knocks with this simmering, well, he

454
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: would have still been part of the whole. It's just

455
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 1: a it's a it's a bizarre narrative because that he

456
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: was a very celebrated character in that four or five

457
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: weeks stretch. It's interesting too that this story has been

458
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 1: so under the radar. It's two years old. He was

459
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 1: someone that came into the league with some concerns about,

460
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: you know, what he had done at the college level,

461
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: and now at in a really big year for both

462
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: Dirt Cutter, who's trying to keep his job and Jamis Winston,

463
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: who I think is going to get that second contract.

464
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: But we talked about on this podcast like this is

465
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Speaker 1: this is a year he's got to kind of step up,

466
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of great players around him on

467
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: offense in Tampa. And I'm not sure our audience knows

468
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 1: how long the long arm of the NFL law is

469
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 1: that they have connections most people in their security department

470
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: or former military high up, c I, A FBI, they

471
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: have connections in every city. They found something on Jamis

472
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: Winston here he did something wrong and that's why he suspended.

473
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 1: And our own reporting from rap Sheet at the time

474
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 1: of this taping at Winston has not been notified of

475
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: his suspension, but the expectations is that he's off the

476
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: field several games and the next circumstance, if there is

477
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: one for Winston, and let's face it now, there is

478
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: a pattern of behavior going back to college with this guy.

479
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,479
Speaker 1: You can't rule anything out. It would be a one

480
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: year suspension. So Winston and the bucks um are gonna

481
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 1: have to deal with this and it probably won't be pleasant. Well,

482
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: we got Cleveland Brown's quarterback and number one overall pick,

483
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield went through the Fox car wash um today Thursday,

484
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: and um a part of one of his stops was

485
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: on Colin Coward's show on Fox Sports Radio and FS one.

486
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: Coward apparently, I'm not a big Coward guy in terms

487
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: of following his career or his active work, but apparently

488
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: he has been critical of Mayfield for some time leading

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Speaker 1: through the draft process and you know, having issues with

490
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: some of Mayfield's off the field UH dealings and also

491
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: the way carries himself on the field at Oklahoma blah

492
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 1: blah blah. Anyway, Mayfield goes on Coward show and during

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Speaker 1: the conversation, Coward decides to run a clip of a

494
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: Oklahoma touchdown from last season, in which after throwing the

495
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: pass for the score, Mayfield runs in the other direction

496
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: and away from the celebration with teammates. Cowherd tries to

497
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:32,479
Speaker 1: go after Mayfield and Mayfield returns fire like this, I'm

498
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: gonna tell you right now, how come you're not what

499
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 1: were you going over there? Our band is over there

500
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: are student sections right there, and then straight back to

501
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: our sideline. What about your team? Did you watch the

502
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: rest of the game. I watched the whole game. You did,

503
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: so you saw me celebrate with my teammates, like the

504
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: three touchdowns before that too. I don't like that. Okay, yeah,

505
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: you pulled the one clip of me running right there

506
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: to our fans and people that traveled well to that game,

507
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: first of all, and then you didn't show the rest

508
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Speaker 1: of the clip of me going to our sideline. No, no, no,

509
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: you have to go to the side. You're not gonna

510
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: go to the hospital. We were you gonna go after

511
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: the touchdown. You're not gonna go. You're acting like I

512
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: just ran away from everybody. Well you did, but then

513
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: you came back and circled to the sideline. This is

514
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: a what It's a five second clip off your showing

515
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: me and then I'm off the screen right there. I'd

516
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 1: like you to be with your teammates and watch the

517
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: rest of the game. I was you would think you

518
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: would think Colin Coward sensing that Baker Mayfield was prepared

519
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: for this and kind of shut you down with back up.

520
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: But I guess Coward at that point in the moment

521
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: was a little into deep so you didn't give up. Oh,

522
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: I know you went back to the sideline. No, No No,

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00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: I'm watch the other touchdowns. I got very excited on

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00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: that one. So you think my accusation that this doesn't

525
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: this is a fact. I feel like you're going for

526
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: the fact that I'm not a team guy, I'm selfish.

527
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: Is that what you're shooting out right here? Um? It

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00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: is a no. I don't think that. I think you

529
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 1: think sometimes your judgments just a tad off. And I

530
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 1: think the NFL to judgment league. Because the game is

531
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: so fast, you have to make the windows gets really

532
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: really tight and really really small. You gotta make decisions

533
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 1: really really fact. You got that Orlando Brown guy, I

534
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: got a little more time. I don't love that decision.

535
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: I don't love it. The celebration. Do you see what

536
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: people do in the league now, celebration wise hip thrusting,

537
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: not a fan. Oh wow, that doesn't surprise me. I

538
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: like when they drafted him because in the past I

539
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: felt immediately, without read any logic, fallen head over heels

540
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: for Cult McCoy, I name my child cult. I mean,

541
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 1: let's that, let's start with that scenario. I well, greas

542
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 1: a good kid in a good great name, a good name,

543
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: but like um, I felt for Brandon Weed and before

544
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 1: he played, and it's like I've been really cautious this

545
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: time around with Baker Mayfield. It's like, I'm just gonna

546
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: let this unfold as a Browns fan the way naturally,

547
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: let me see what he actually does on the field.

548
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: But there's something I've noticed following him, especially on Instagram,

549
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: where that he's he does a lot of Instagram story.

550
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: His girlfriend Emily Wilkinson, who's like got her whole own

551
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: life of her own and she's incredibly smart, is posting

552
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: about him and the two of them Like there, he

553
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: is a guy's guy. I love this dude. I love

554
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: his whole person owner When you add when you go

555
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: and dig into this thing that cowards trying to go

556
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: after him on. His teammates loved him, they adored him,

557
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: and I totally by the fact that he that was

558
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: a road game, those fans traveled to that game, and

559
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: he went up first to them, to the band he

560
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: was he's and I just I think it's it's like

561
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: you're digging for this, and Baker Mayfield, who has been

562
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: hearing this from months and months, will not put up

563
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: with it. I really like the makeup of him. I

564
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: think he is a fascinating guy, and I know the

565
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: whole Predeft process kept digging him and focusing on how

566
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: great other quarterbacks were and stuff. It's like, we're getting

567
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: different types of personality. You're making the point mark that

568
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: I think Cal Coward and a lot of other people

569
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: got paid and had their careers jump or just had

570
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: some of their best radio because Johnny Manziel was such

571
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: a disaster. So it's like you see what what he's

572
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: trying to do in this instance, and it's like, well,

573
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: you're trying to make him Manzel, but they're not the

574
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: same people. It's the not the same situation. And I

575
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: think Mayfield handled themselves incredibly will. I think our favorite

576
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: quarterbacks over the years are swashbucklers. They have daring do

577
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: as Johnny Unitis once said, I wasn't a quarterback until

578
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: I could tell my coach to go to hell. That's

579
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: the type of personality we want in a quarterback, and

580
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield has it in spades. He has my favorite

581
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: personality of any young quarterback in football. Cowards just pulling

582
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: all of the curmudgeon levers at this point because like,

583
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: you hear what he's saying and you're like, well, like

584
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: he just sounds like such a just like you. He says,

585
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: I want you to be with your teammates, and then

586
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: he starts telling Baker about what the NFL is like

587
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: the windows get smaller and things get anyway. But he

588
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: also like, it's like this dad who thinks he should

589
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: be making judgments on a behavior of like a quarterback.

590
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: It's it's absolutely outrageous, but it's just one of many

591
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: things that he's probably said on his four hours of

592
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: radio that you have to fill up with something and

593
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: you end up just trying to create characters. Like Dan said,

594
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, this is the bad guy, this is

595
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: the good guy, and most of it is total non sense,

596
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: and it's refreshing to hear an intelligent young quarterback come

597
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: and point out that nonsense. He showed up to the

598
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: to the interview. I mean he came ready to go.

599
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: This wasn't just happened to come up. Baker Mayfield came

600
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: to the interview with a sweatshirt that said in quotes

601
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: undraftable on it, which was in reference to what Colin

602
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: Coward had called him previously, and so he came just

603
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: wanted to knock him down. I love it. Keep tabs

604
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: on all the slights against him. The most part from

605
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: Coward's point of view is it's disingenuous. He doesn't even

606
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: believe what he's saying, like he it's totally playing up

607
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: drama for a radio show. And then you're really just encouraging,

608
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: like the worst of human instincts if you do that,

609
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: because you know that there there is a section of

610
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: fans who think they can read Baker Meyfield and think

611
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: he's not a good teammate because they saw that one

612
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: play and he's just playing up to them. It's just

613
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: a good radio though. I'll give him that. He it's

614
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: good radio on Baker Mayfield side right, but he but

615
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: I would never listen to that radio host again. I

616
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: would also say, not not not to defend Coward, but

617
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: Coward bad out Mayfield and then at least had the

618
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: guts to have him on the show and then came

619
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: at him with a lack of good faith and argue

620
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: he probably had to have him on the show though,

621
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: because isn't Baker Mayfield's documentary docuseries coming out on Fox Listen.

622
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know the internal workings. I'm

623
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: just saying I think it worked out for everyone because

624
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: we get to talk about it and we get to

625
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: see a side of Baker Mayfield we like and Coward gets.

626
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: And when they they took him number one, and everyone thought,

627
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: all the Browns, they've messed up this draft. You obviously

628
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: needed to go with quarterback x Y or Z and

629
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: you went with Baker. Yeah. Well, here's the thing they

630
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: talked about number one. They loved his mental makeup and

631
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: who he was and who they got to know over

632
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: that process. So it's like we're seeing a play out.

633
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: I kind of it gives me a little bit more

634
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: trust and what they what they did, I mean and

635
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: frankly like they weren't the only team. I think the

636
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: Jets if the reports reacting they wanted Baker Mayfield. There

637
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: were many teams that did. Did the media. We we

638
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: were slow to know that the should have taken Sam Donaldo.

639
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: He's gonna be all right, Well, we'll figure that out.

640
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: A nice little personality is gonna be a great analyst.

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Speaker 1: We'll figure that out in week three. No, I'm rooting

642
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: for Baker Mayfield. Uh I am, I really do you

643
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: know that? I hope he kicks as well. We are

644
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: looking for a massive a f C power shift that

645
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: has the Patriots going about two and fourteen, nine years

646
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: in a row, in the Jets and Browns meeting in

647
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: the a f C title game nine years in a row, exactly.

648
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: Platform agnostic. Finally in the news, I don't get a

649
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: ding for that one. I just sort of shove that

650
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: in there. There's no silver bullet to getting the Jets.

651
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: That hot tape could be platform agnostic, though, you know

652
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: you could put that anywhere like in jaafab probably um.

653
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: Finally in the news, I didn't realize this. It makes

654
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: sense that uh, Monday Night Football ESPN rebooting the whole

655
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: thing that included parting ways with poor Jerry Austin, who

656
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: was overwhelmed for several years as he rules analyst on

657
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: that program and routinely, uh seemed like what Mike Garafolo

658
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: did with you, Mark is what Gruden did to Austin

659
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: for years on that program, which may surprised me that

660
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: he joined the Raiders in an advisory role. Jerry Austen,

661
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: he's out of yes, so Greden hired him, took a

662
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: consulting role with the Raiders. Jerry Austen always seemed vaguely

663
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: surprised that he was on television, you know what I mean?

664
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: They would like, they would like go to him and

665
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: be like, whoa like that movie fifty First Dates? So

666
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: Drew Barrymore where every day like she didn't remember it.

667
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: It was Jerry Austen. Every time they threw at I

668
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: was like, wait, why am I hearing? It was always

669
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: like a moment of like, oh, we're doing this okay anyway,

670
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: So Jerry Austen's out, someone else had to be hired.

671
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: And reportedly this according uh to who did report this,

672
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 1: football Zebras Yes all Right reported that Jeff Triplett, who

673
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: retired six months ago, after a fairly disastrous playoff game

674
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: that ended his career. Uh. He slated to joined ESPN

675
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: as a rules analyst along with Joe Testator and Jason

676
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: Witten in the booth. Uh that is a football zebra

677
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: has also learned that the NFL specifically steered ESPN too higher.

678
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: Triplet interesting. Uh, he'll replace Jerry Austin, who was there

679
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: since two thousand and twelve. This led to a lot

680
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: of you know, derision, some sniping on social media because

681
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: Jeff Triplet West did not have the greatest reputation as

682
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: an official. If you could draw up like the perfect

683
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: candidate to never have this opportunity, it would be Jeff Triplet.

684
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: He's unqualified in just about every way. He first of

685
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: all Al river On the best part of the Al

686
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: river On discussion was him acknowledging and pointing out, I

687
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: don't have to tell you guys were in the entertainment business.

688
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: This isn't about being on the camera too long for

689
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 1: for an official or being under the hood too long.

690
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: Get it over with, make fewer calls, get the entertainment

691
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: out there. Jeff Triplet had like a secretariat like lead

692
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: on every other official for players kicked out penalties thrown

693
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: most time on camera, most mistakes. Jeff Triplet also never

694
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: made a confident call in his life. When he makes

695
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: a call, he bumbles the wording, he can't get it out,

696
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: he can't communicate. And now they're gonna ask him to

697
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: explain calls that he couldn't explain when he was doing

698
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 1: the job. He was also on the Grassy Knoll in Dallas,

699
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: and he's gonna make Mike Carey look like Walter Cronkite.

700
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 1: So you don't like the Higher, He's just totally I mean,

701
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: it's like if you could wait, wait, if you're ESPN,

702
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: you're in a meeting, You're like, well, who would be

703
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: the worst one we could have to do this? Triplet?

704
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: Well why not? Why not? Let's try it. It's a

705
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: controversial higher. I can't wait to see it because I

706
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: feel like it is going to be just a giant

707
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: dumpster fire. And I like it just for the West Angle. Yeah,

708
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: we've got West fired up because the Mark pulled up

709
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: or I've found an old tweet of Marx from September.

710
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: Best supp out of this night Chris Wesley's unhanged disdain

711
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: for Jeff Triplet, and it's that was right after my

712
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: surgery when you guys were at at our apartment watching

713
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: the gate, I was probably just going off on Triplet

714
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: and like a post cancer Hayes. This is perfect. I

715
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: mean this could be on the eleven retweets. I think

716
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 1: that needed more attention that tweet. Wow that So there

717
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: you go. Triplet reportedly taking over for Austin and Chris

718
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: Westling is going to be following this extreme. I already

719
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: have a list of reasons not to watch ESPN, so this,

720
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 1: I mean west typically covers Monday night football for the site,

721
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: so you know this will be an intern're not watching it?

722
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: I mean you think I tracked kicker battles closely, Wait

723
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: until you watch west tracking every time they throw at

724
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: the Triplet. Who I mean, I think you underestimate my

725
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: ability to not watch stuff. Um, all right, that's what's

726
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: happening in the news. All right. We promised a very

727
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: special guest, a Mr Guest. Um. But of course, if

728
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: you're a longtime listener to the show, and you know

729
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 1: that these guys don't really know their soccer. They don't

730
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: know nothing us, no doubt. But there's one person in

731
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: the history of the around the NFL podcast that was

732
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: extremely knowledgeable of the sports. In fact, he's made his life.

733
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: His life surrounds the game. Now, the beautiful game. I

734
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: know that humble brag, that's what they call it. Uh.

735
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 1: It is, of course, one of our favorites of all time.

736
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: He's on Mountain Rushmore. He is the gold standard, Zach Oldman,

737
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: and he's here for a little World Cup NFL talk. Yeah, Zachie,

738
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: what's up man? We caught you. You're back from Russia, right,

739
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: you're at the World Cup? Is at the World Cup.

740
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm back from Russia. I have a little cold, so

741
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: I apologize for my voice, but no, not to wors.

742
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: So we're having a great, uh great start to the tournament.

743
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: How are you guys? Very well? Great, it's great. It

744
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 1: is right to hear gold standards. What it's been a while.

745
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 1: One thing I gold said his voice, and we haven't

746
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: heard in a while, even with you know, a chess

747
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: cold or a head cold or whatever you're battling your

748
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: little c um. Just such a kind voice. Man, You're

749
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: too kind, That's what I say. Dude. This is great.

750
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: How is how is Russia? Before we get to the

751
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: rest of it, it was good, It was good. It

752
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: was really fun. I think, like for the tournament, it

753
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 1: was kind of interesting because you have so many different

754
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: cultures kind of descending on this place that I think

755
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: a lot of people never thought that would get to

756
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: go to. I certainly I've been there a couple of times,

757
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: but I did not spend a lot of time there

758
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: at all, And it was just kind of a surreal

759
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: period of exploring a new culture that I knew very

760
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 1: little about, couldn't read any signs, and like I just

761
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: met a lot of really interesting people and kind of

762
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 1: heard their story and heard a lot about a place

763
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: that I really knew very very little about. What's the food, Like,

764
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 1: what's the nightlife? The food, I mean, when the food

765
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: is tremendous, it's kind of like it's like very heavy

766
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: meals of like you meat and potato dishes, which are

767
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 1: right down. Yeah. I've had a couple very suspicious vodka

768
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: pores from very large gentleman who wouldn't let me not

769
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: drink vodka. Suspicious in what way? That? Was it just

770
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: the quantity or well, yeah, it was in many ways.

771
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: It was like just like unmarked bottles of what I

772
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: thought it was sort of like is this water or

773
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: is this vodka? And I knew the answer was going

774
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: to be vodka obviously beside the unless we were doing

775
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: water shots. But now it was pretty interesting, like we

776
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: went to a lot of like hole in the wall

777
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: restaurants where I did not know what I was ordering,

778
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: and you know a lot of bors you know very good. Well,

779
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: of course, Zach, you are no one knows more about

780
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: the beautiful game than you do. Oh I don't know

781
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: about that, and uh yeah, we need we need help obviously.

782
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: But so this is not going to be some review

783
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: or you giving us a crash course, so much as

784
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna take our NFL knowledge and where you lack

785
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: in NFL knowledge and where we lack in soccer knowledge,

786
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna try to connect the dots here. And based

787
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 1: on the way that the segment is set up, it

788
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: could go horribly wrong because if both sides don't know

789
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: about something that's central to the conversation, how does the

790
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: segment work. I don't know. It feels like a very

791
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 1: high possibility of that happening, But so go ahead, Zack.

792
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, well, I set the you know,

793
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: I set the tone during my tenure there of like

794
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: very half baked ideas turned into can out and you

795
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: guys typically save the day. I feel like we can

796
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: do that for old times sable. Yeah, in honor of Zack,

797
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: I've come up with a half baked idea and now

798
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: we're going to try to make it work. So this

799
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 1: is what we're thinking. So with with the World Cup currently,

800
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: are we still in the group stage one? Yeah, the

801
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: group one? What is it called? It's like group stage

802
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: that's perfect. So nobody has a limited a yet. A

803
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: couple of teams and they still have another game to play.

804
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: But there's a few that are mathematical. Okay, got it?

805
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: United States eliminated, yes, And we're going to touch on

806
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 1: the United States teams. So we're thinking, is uh taking

807
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: some of the big names, some of the big countries

808
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: that are in this event, and Zach is going to

809
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: with his soccer knowledge, give us kind of an overview

810
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: of what the team is, kind of a general like

811
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: characteristics connected to the team, and then we will then

812
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: lean on our NFL knowledge and we take the baton

813
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: and we try to connect which team in the World

814
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: Cup connects with connects with NFL teams heading into it

815
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: on the premise is decent like on paper. A yeah,

816
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: but I don't know. This is like the chargers of

817
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: a segment on paper It's it's great exactly all right,

818
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: So Zack, why don't we start, Uh, since we do

819
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: have so many uh English listeners, why don't we start

820
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: with England? Give us a little overview of what this

821
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: squad is all about? Sure, Um, well, England is interesting,

822
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: I think, just like on a on a broader level. Obviously,

823
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: the heritage of the game in so many ways comes

824
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: from England. Massive, massive soccer culture. Uh. They World Cup

825
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: in nineteen six on home soil, which is obviously a

826
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: very big deal. But didn't I remember that from mad Men?

827
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 1: Do you? Okay? That's how I knew, because they've got

828
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: they've got, you know, amazing tradition around the game. But

829
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: typically tournaments tend to result in heartbreak. Um, this time

830
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: you've got a really exciting and team which is really cool.

831
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: Um and uh, you know, I don't know, there's it's

832
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 1: it's sort of like this, uh, this never ending hype

833
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: machine around the team, Like people are super negative up

834
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: until the tournament that everyone starts to buy in and

835
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: believe and then it tends to not work out. For them. Alright,

836
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna hear from that on Twitter. I'm

837
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: gonna hear about who does that sound like to you

838
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. I'll throw one out there because Zach

839
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: suggested it. I kind of like the Alas Cowboys. Well,

840
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: you're you're talking. There was, There was these incredible high moments.

841
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: There's a history of an a heritage of glory and

842
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 1: it's been a real a bit of a rough road

843
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: now and far too much attention in general it compared

844
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: to you know, their chances of winning the Cup, or

845
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: at least their history of winning the Cup. They it's

846
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: partly because we're here in the States, they probably don't

847
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 1: get as much attention everywhere, but because I it's funny,

848
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: we just had a conversation west where you were saying, oh,

849
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: you know, the Cowboys get way too much pub and

850
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: a lot of people feel the same exact way. And

851
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: in my mentions after we were we happened to be

852
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: doing the pod when England won their World Cup match

853
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: on Monday, I think it was people hitting me up

854
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: on Twitter like, don't bring up England. They get way

855
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: too much coverage as is. That's the Cowboy. Yeah, yeah,

856
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: that's perfect, all right, that's are we cool with that? West?

857
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: I was thinking either Packers of Bear Packers or Bears

858
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: because they were there at the beginning and people talk

859
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: more about their history than their present like that. A

860
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: lot maybe of Bears because basically, um, George Hollis was

861
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: running the league for forever and he was there at

862
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: the founding of it. And the Cowboys have a chance

863
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: in the NFC if everything breaks right this year to England,

864
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 1: could they can they win? I'm gonna do the diplomatic

865
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: thing and say, yes, it is possible. I don't I

866
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: don't think that they will. I think this is a

867
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: really talented team that can get to the quarterfinals or so.

868
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: But they're they're sort of one cycle away I think

869
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: in four years interesting to watch because they've got a

870
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: lot of like really good young players from like seventeen

871
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: to twenty one or so, and they're not quite in

872
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: the national team yet. But I think a lot of

873
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: people have a lot of hope. Interesting one cycle away

874
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 1: the England. How about another team, Zack, let's do it, um?

875
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: How about Spain? Uh, Spain's kind of an interesting one there,

876
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: you know, for so many years they were considered really

877
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: talented chokers. You know, in major tournaments they would be

878
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: seemingly pretty stacked, but would never kind of get where

879
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: they needed to go. And then all of a sudden,

880
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,959
Speaker 1: they broke through in two thousand and eight, really during

881
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: the European Championships, they won the World Cup and then um, yes,

882
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: since then they've been pretty much a powerhouse. Obviously, they

883
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: went out in the group stage last time in the

884
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: World Cup, but they're a super talented team front to back.

885
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: Sounds like the Patriots would say. Sounds like the Philadelphia

886
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 1: Eagles that, yeah, the Goldman's they're here to stay, finally

887
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: breakthrough after years. There's a creativity to their playing style.

888
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: I like that that works for me. And they're known

889
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: as talented jokers. I mean the Eagles years and here

890
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: could not get over the hump and lost all those

891
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: Andy Reid playoff games. Uh. Well, one question that you're

892
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: saying that the Spain won a while back, they won

893
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: two thousand ten. The only thing this kind of reminds

894
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: me of a little bit is the Packers, because they

895
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: won in two thousand ten. They're extremely talented and have

896
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 1: been all along. But I can't think of a team

897
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 1: that choked more in the playoffs, the didn't fizzle out

898
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: scenarios like that, the Packers came from behind, took the lead. Alright,

899
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: let's do another one. What about France and is that

900
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: his name? Yeah, I'm being very good totally. That's a

901
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: hard one. I mean, Frances Frances are really exciting um

902
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: team that I think people are really frustrated about the

903
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 1: coach did de Champ. He hasn't really like put together

904
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: the pieces in the correct way. But people are really

905
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: excited about the amount of talent they have. I mean,

906
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 1: they're they've they've left so many good players at home

907
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: because they literally can't fit them all into the squad.

908
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: Um and yeah, just they're like their attacking talent is

909
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: kind of next level. UM. So I don't I defer

910
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: to you guys on that one, but I think you know,

911
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: they have a kind of a pipeline of incredible attacking

912
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: players that doesn't look like slawn down anytime. Seen it

913
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 1: sounds a little We always say they have the best

914
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 1: roster in the league, and then everyone spends time wondering

915
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: why Mike Tomlin can't beat built Bill Belichick. I was

916
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: gonna say the Falcon's offense because of Shanahan. Just a

917
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: few focused on the offense. Are they would you consider

918
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: them a likable team? Golden some buzz you know that.

919
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: Maybe the Steelers, Okay, they are a likable teams. I

920
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: don't know if the Steelers are like America's team right now,

921
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: not a bunch of sweethearts. Maybe not, maybe not. We'll

922
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: give us another give us another team, Zach. Already, how's

923
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: this going? Well, let's let a lottle half time performance

924
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: for a lot little halftime the week. I feel like

925
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: very being found out by the audience right now or else.

926
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: I just like hearing gold standers voice. That's the main

927
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: purpose behind this. Alright, alright, we're back from half commercial

928
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: free Belgium. Alright. Belgium is a team that you wouldn't

929
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: normally put in kind of the top tier of global

930
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: soccer nations. But everyone kind of waiting for them to

931
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 1: explode on the scene. Obviously they've They've got tremendously stacked

932
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: team at pretty much every single position, but none of

933
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: those players have really coalesced into anything from the national

934
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: team they got. They got to the quarterfinals of the

935
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: World Cup last time. Um, they were eliminated in pretty

936
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: embarrassing fashion by Wales in the last European Championships. But

937
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 1: basically what they are is they've got a great defense

938
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 1: and kind of a stacked young core of players who

939
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: have finally come of age. But no one sure if

940
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: they can get all the way to like a World

941
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: Cup final yet. I don't know. Well, I don't know

942
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: about embarrassing exit from the playoffs, but how about the

943
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jags. Everything connects there and and gold Standard also

944
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: put that together in our pre production. He did a

945
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: nice job. That's clearly Belgium is the Jaguars. Yeah. I

946
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: gave gold Standards some credit for how he's describing these

947
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: teams because he's drawing parallels to NFL. He does, by

948
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: the way, he lost here if he does. Belgium have

949
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: like a really bad like goalkeeper that's hold something, not

950
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: a bad goalkeeper, but they have a coach who's really interesting.

951
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 1: I don't know how this one. How they've got, you

952
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: know what I mean, They've got Rebert to marketing as

953
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: who everyone thinks he's a super smart, like really articulate guy,

954
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: but no one's actually sure if he's a good poacher.

955
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's that's not really helping the

956
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: Jack Suar Jaguar scenario too much. But what I'm getting

957
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: from you, though, Zach, is that despite your professed you know,

958
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: appreciation of your your time with us, not necessarily still

959
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: a regular listener of the Around the NFL podcast hasn't

960
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 1: been keeping up with you know, American football too much.

961
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: I go, you know, going waves every now and again,

962
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: I I check in. I have no doubt. It's my

963
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: faith and you guys are doing such an incredible job

964
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: about me that like, great answer, perfect answer. All right,

965
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: let's time for two more because I want to get

966
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: to the US last. But we should we should, uh

967
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 1: discuss the defending World Cup champions. Is that is defending?

968
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: Where do they use that in World Cup? Okay? Yes,

969
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: defending chance? So Germany, I don't know how one would

970
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: describe him. I guess throughout history they're just kind of

971
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: in this ruthlessly dominant soccer power. But they, I mean,

972
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: I know exactly who we're picking for this already, but

973
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: there their machines deeply unlikable, deeply I mean to me,

974
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: deeply unlikable. You like doing this? There're a machine marching

975
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: on German I can't imagine who we're picking for this,

976
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 1: would you say that? Do they kind of exist almost

977
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: on a throne of ease within that culture? Throne of

978
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: ease for sure? Um yeah, I think there's probably there's

979
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: probably a boss somewhere in a German soccer news office.

980
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: But no, I mean they've got a coach, Yogi Lov

981
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: who's like, basically, every time he loses a player, like

982
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: last time when they won the World Cup, a ton

983
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: of like the core of the squad left, and then

984
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: he sounds dudes just like young players in the German

985
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: league who seamlessly fit into a team. I think this

986
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: is falling into placed size slot. Receivers a lot of

987
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: undersized whites, definitely the lads right now. And they cheat

988
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: everyone every once in a while, every now and again,

989
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: you know they everyone cheats and soccer, come on, that's

990
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: true to Uh, well, we don't even have to say it.

991
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: I guess we don't. I think everyone knows well a

992
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,439
Speaker 1: nice connection because you know, my dad, Tom Rosenthal born

993
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: in Germany, so it all comes together. And finally, although

994
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: it's a bit of a cheat, but we are a

995
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 1: United States based podcast. Uh, the Americans did not qualify

996
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: it's great disgrace for the entire nation, let's face it,

997
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: and for a casual fan like me, crushing because it's

998
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 1: really fun to root for the US every four years

999
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 1: in this tournament, even though they never go deep. We

1000
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: lost that ability. Who are who is the NFL equivalent

1001
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 1: of the Americans? The United States? Give us a rundown

1002
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: of that squad? Yeah, I mean, I really haven't come

1003
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: with an answer on this one because it's pretty hard,

1004
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: so I'll defer to you guys. But basically we're I

1005
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: think there's a very questionable in Clinton. That's kind of

1006
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: the main downfall. I think we're as talented in some

1007
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: ways that we've ever been in terms of like the

1008
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: actual pool of letters, but a bunch of things sort

1009
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: of systemically have broken down. We haven't like we we

1010
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: started our coach halfway through the qualifying cycle and didn't

1011
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: really replace him with someone with much of a plan.

1012
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: We have like this kind of weird. We have an

1013
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 1: amazing player, Christian Polistic, and then like very little supporting

1014
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 1: cast offensively, um defensively, we're a little bit of a mess. Two.

1015
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: So I don't know who that sounds like. I know

1016
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: who this is, Mark, Mark well, now, I don't know

1017
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: there's a fresh start here. But it reminds me of

1018
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: the New York Giants. You have one amazing star player,

1019
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 1: you've got essentially, you said, defense a little shaky, you

1020
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 1: fired your coach midway through the season, and you think

1021
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,280
Speaker 1: the Giants. You keep thinking, there's a lot of promise joys.

1022
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: I picked him to go to sap Okay. The history,

1023
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: the history. Another came to my mind quickly when you

1024
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: said an organizational structural problem, a lot of talent, but

1025
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,720
Speaker 1: then when you watch it on the field, kind of blah.

1026
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: And I thought about the Cincinnati Oh no, I was

1027
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: afraid you were gonna say that it's the system, and

1028
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: you know, maybe they're now they're drafting some good players.

1029
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: They've got one big offensive superstar and a J. Green.

1030
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: But then you watch it and it's just that works too.

1031
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: We struggle to get out of the first round. I

1032
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: like it. I like it. I was gonna say that

1033
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher rams it's even worse. I mean, one thing

1034
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: gold standard on a scale of one to tend, not

1035
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: even being a US soccer fan, but this, it's like

1036
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: the sport was introduced to our country five years ago

1037
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: on a scale of one to tend. How disgraceful is

1038
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: it that we could not get into this tournament? It's

1039
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: the one. It's the one because I basically, like you

1040
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,959
Speaker 1: have to imagine that, Like there's I know that each

1041
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: year there's a certain division in the NFL that's not

1042
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 1: very good and like a six Intendian gets in, but

1043
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: Conker calf Our region that we qualify from, which is

1044
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: North America, Caribbean and Central America, Like you should be

1045
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: able to basically put together like a four and twelve

1046
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: season and get into the World Cup, and like we

1047
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: could do that. So it's a ten. It's a ten.

1048
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 1: Y Okay, Uh, well it's Zack. You you said it all.

1049
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: You came in here and you you conquered, and um

1050
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: you what are you up to? We get to plug

1051
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: into for what you're doing right now or anything even

1052
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,439
Speaker 1: your Twitter handle whatever you whatever you want? Sure, Okay, great.

1053
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: I have a little company called Common Goal. We're we're

1054
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: marketing and business development agency and we do nerdy soccer

1055
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 1: stuff pretty much. So it's been good, but I miss

1056
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: you guys, and I want to come in uh NFL

1057
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: h Q and get some like barbecue. I don't know,

1058
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: people that own little companies. So this is this is cool.

1059
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: It's pretty impressive. Yeah, we got we knew, we knew

1060
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: gold standard when he was here. He was too smart

1061
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: for us long term, he was we got we got

1062
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: barbecue with Zac about a year ago. We got to

1063
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: do that again. So follow him on Twitter if you

1064
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:58,919
Speaker 1: don't already at that, damn yank Uh. And yes he's

1065
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 1: common goal. Where is football? All that good stuff? Zach?

1066
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: Thank you you you had a home run and I'm

1067
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: not checking. Thanks the gold standard. Turn that up, lindsay, okay,

1068
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: you can turn it down all right before we go. Yes,

1069
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: it is time uh to welcome in a man who

1070
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: he's the longest of the long shots. Let's face it.

1071
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: Here he comes into the studio, Dave Ealey, the news

1072
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 1: senior news editor downstairs in the newsroom. And uh, and

1073
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: he's known West for a long time. Now, how long

1074
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: has it been, Dave? Four or five years? Maybe at

1075
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 1: least five years? And so four or five years you've

1076
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: known West and you're both bald men. Uh and also

1077
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: you've had a West. How would you characterize your relationship

1078
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: with Dave? First starting as a fellow employee and then

1079
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: him being your boss. It's a UM, I'd say a

1080
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 1: work relationship with mutual respect. I wouldn't say we're tremendously close,

1081
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: just in the sense that we haven't shared a lot

1082
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: of um experiences outside of the workplace. He did come

1083
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 1: to West Lemania and drink the Champagne of beers, so

1084
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: that's that's good. But I do have a lot of

1085
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: respect for Dave. He makes good decisions, he manages the

1086
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: crew will and Vegas of course, Dave Ellie, um has

1087
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: you installed two gods? The odds have not moved all week, though,

1088
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: because I think Vegas senses there's a shot at a

1089
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: miracle here, that this is what you're about to do,

1090
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: which has pitched yourself to be what's his best man

1091
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: at his wedding in Tybee Island next year. There's a

1092
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: there's a sense in the air that you have a

1093
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: shot here, that this isn't just some stupid podcast stunt

1094
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: uh in late West Test saying they're not tremendously close, right, Well,

1095
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: there's time to make up to that. This is the

1096
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: odds for a year. We can get close, right touche.

1097
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:59,439
Speaker 1: So this is threat, I mean, I mean just said

1098
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: before we throw it to Dave, let's just set the

1099
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: table here West because I want you this is this

1100
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: is serious, and I want you to understand. I don't

1101
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: feel compelled to make a decision one way or another.

1102
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: If you do, if you're blown away one way or

1103
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: the other, certainly express it um. But if you if

1104
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: you think maybe this is he planted seeds, if you

1105
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: will if he does that, you have every right to say, well,

1106
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to make an announcement, but thank you, Dave.

1107
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to keep an open mind because there's nothing

1108
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: to lose. By keeping an open mind, it would be

1109
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: good for the podcast. It would be good for me

1110
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: if out of nowhere I get a new best friend.

1111
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: You know, it's an unexpected gift. If Dave Eally becomes

1112
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: my best friend and Connie Fox behind the glass, how's

1113
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: that perspective? By the way, it's very different. I have

1114
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: some distance from you guys. Physically, there's a wall now

1115
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: between us, but gas there has I just always keep

1116
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: that wall up, Dave. Really, I don't know. I don't

1117
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: know if I ever call you by your full name,

1118
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: but how you feel? How you have you ever spoken before?

1119
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: It's usually but usual cheers? Can I can you grab

1120
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: me a beer from They're like, do you want the sandwich?

1121
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: We had a fun time bonding on the bench of

1122
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: the softball team two years ago. Yeah that was great, Okay,

1123
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: And that's good because you you know all of us well.

1124
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: But now this is what this is about, is about Dave,

1125
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: and it's about West, and it's about one of the

1126
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: more sacred things anyone can do for anyone, which is

1127
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: to be the best man at a wedding. That is special.

1128
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: I would say that Vegas is slightly optimistic on this.

1129
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: You know, I was gonna say it would be like

1130
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: Villanova knocking over George Town in eighty five. But if

1131
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: you factor in, look, just making the tournament. Dave and

1132
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: I haven't known each other a whole lives. I've built

1133
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: up all I have brothers and have friendships. It would

1134
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: be like a sixteen seed winning the entire tournament, right

1135
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: I I've I've put my pretend money on another bet

1136
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: that's out there plus two hundred. He doesn't even get

1137
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: invited to the wedding. Were you or even born in seed?

1138
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: Did just win a game in the tournament? Win a

1139
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: game trying to be Cinderella but you're not? Yes, I've

1140
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: always you myself. But you can win one game, you

1141
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: can win the next game. You make the point that

1142
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: there was a sixteen one upset for the first time

1143
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: this year, but you're not looking just to get into

1144
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: the second round, and I want it all okay now

1145
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: without further ado, Dave really standing at a platform looking uh,

1146
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: spiffy and a jean jacket uh, and just things things

1147
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: looking up for Dave. But now the pressure is on

1148
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: to to give the speech of a lifetime, to change

1149
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: the course of two men's lives. Dave, Okay, So I

1150
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: have three pieces of the platform. First off, you said

1151
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: we're not very close. That plays from my advantage. Think

1152
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: of all the tough decisions you're not have to face.

1153
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: You pick some random person. Everyone can be mad. You're

1154
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: not gonn upset only one or two people. All your

1155
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: brothers will be offended. They will be offended. Just then

1156
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,439
Speaker 1: they'll put the blame on me, which is the other part.

1157
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: You need a fall guy. Something goes wrong at the wedding,

1158
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 1: blame it on Dave. So when there's a there's an

1159
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 1: unruly family member, blame it on Dave. I can even

1160
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: escort the family member outside of the wedding, take care

1161
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: of that. I can be the fixer. There's a lot

1162
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: of things that I can do for you. And also,

1163
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if you ever heard about this, but

1164
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: my college girlfriend once stopped me. So I know love

1165
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 1: when I see it. You guys have the love that

1166
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 1: we did not have. So I value that you had it,

1167
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 1: but she took it from me. She did, but I

1168
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: don't think Lakish would do that to you. Um. And also,

1169
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: if you want to hear a potential type of toast,

1170
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: I'll give I have. I have a toast ready to give.

1171
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: All right kind of your tryout? And you can't toast

1172
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: without Champagne. Wow At whoa, look at this he brings

1173
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: I here, winning me over. This is great. I ubered

1174
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: here today. Not only Champagne is sparkling Rose, just the

1175
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: finest from California. WHOA, what a moment. Look at says

1176
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: he's doing. He's opening it up, ladies and gentlemen. Eli

1177
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: has come like almost like Gallagher. This will be great

1178
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: time I could. He's gonna take me out a third camera.

1179
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: That cork's not gonna break anything. Oh God, God, do

1180
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: all right? Look at that pro everyone gets a glass

1181
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 1: let Vegas in the judge's note that he opened it

1182
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: up without incident, and it's a perfect poor perfect You

1183
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 1: need the best man that can pop bottles. You know

1184
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: what you really need from a best man the ability

1185
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: to make a moment come alive. And you just did

1186
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 1: wait to go to statement by West. I would also

1187
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: mands just a factual note here Wes is David or

1188
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: David Eally is West's boss, but also Lakeisha's boss. So yeah,

1189
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 1: you're dealing with you. I mean, make that happen. Alright,

1190
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: So al right, we all have our glasses calling. You

1191
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: are running here. Yeah, okay, well we got plenty of

1192
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: football cups to go around. This is really well. Okay,

1193
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: you've done the poor. Now now it's time to come

1194
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: in for the landing. Now, alright, time to come in

1195
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: for the landing. Dave, this is a non testing one

1196
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: to testing one to al Right, here we go. This

1197
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: is Dave ealing. I'm making his pitch. Apparently the floor

1198
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: is good. Evening everyone. Now, I know what you all

1199
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: are thinking, who is this guy? Because I don't know

1200
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: really any of you. My name is Dave Eally. I'm

1201
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: Chris is and Lakisha's boss. Done back in colver a

1202
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: NFL network And you know what, God damn, this is

1203
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: a beautiful ceremony. I got tears in my eyes just

1204
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: thinking about this. And you know what again, I don't

1205
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 1: know if you've heard about this, but my college girlfriend

1206
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 1: wants stumped me. So so I know love. I know

1207
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,959
Speaker 1: the love that bonds Chris and Lakisha. And that's real love.

1208
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 1: That's the notebook love to Western Lakisha. Wow. That powerful

1209
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 1: message this pop culture. Why buy the cow when you're

1210
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: giving away the milk for free right here? Wow? So

1211
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 1: there it is. That is that's the toast. That's a

1212
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 1: short sweet. They're not here to see me. And he

1213
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: gets his role. He gets his role, he gets he

1214
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: gets the David Eale experience. To say one thing, whoever

1215
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 1: does wind up being the best man. If it's not

1216
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: David Eally, that person is on the fence to come

1217
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: up with something better than he just did. Right, And

1218
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: just like you stutled the study the All twenty two film,

1219
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 1: if it's not Dave, And let's face it, even despite that,

1220
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: and we don't know, we haven't heard from West yet

1221
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: that you study what Dave just did. It was very

1222
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: well done, all right? West? Um? Dave is at your

1223
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 1: mercy right now, you have three options from from as

1224
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 1: far as I can tell, yes, you're my best man,

1225
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: and that I mean that would be wild. No, uh no,

1226
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: it's just not as much as I like you did.

1227
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: It's just not under consideration. It's just it's too fast.

1228
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just the door still open and now it's

1229
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 1: West's time. I don't want to shut down the dream,

1230
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not here for that. I if he's

1231
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: got a ear and if he wants to continue this,

1232
01:04:54,160 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: I'm open to um listening to his his strength. Um,

1233
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 1: I will say after this, after listening to that speech, like,

1234
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: I don't think he knows the person getting married very well.

1235
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 1: It was more like a maid of honor speech to

1236
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 1: give to shout out the notebook at my wedding. They're

1237
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 1: very rarely good, by the way, and also to bring

1238
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: up his own romantic situation. Maybe you did college, but

1239
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: in my experience it's something that ladies up the world. Well,

1240
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 1: it was a lot about you know, it wasn't a

1241
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 1: lot about you and Laksha necessarily. It was a lot

1242
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 1: about using him as a shield for the rest of

1243
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 1: your family. A fall guy, and you know what that

1244
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: was That was a good I thought you made three

1245
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 1: excellent points. Um, blame it on Dave could easily become

1246
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: my credo. Yes, blame By the way, like the best

1247
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: man relationship doesn't just end when the wedding does. It

1248
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 1: goes on and on, so he could continue to blame

1249
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 1: you for things for the rest of my life. I

1250
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 1: have been the best man before. Gave the toast, and

1251
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: afterward the wife came up to me and said, I'm

1252
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 1: surprised that went well. Yeah, I would have kept that

1253
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 1: one close to the back. Are you concerned, David Ealy

1254
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 1: because you mentioned you're the boss of Chris and Lakeisha, Um,

1255
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 1: that you have the full support of both sides here,

1256
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 1: that you're gonna that that Lakisha is going to support this,

1257
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 1: that that you're confident in your management. West strikes me

1258
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 1: as the guy that will make this decision for the

1259
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 1: best man that he wants agree with on the line.

1260
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 1: Interesting angle, just dismissing the wife right there. Well I'm

1261
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 1: playing I'm I'm playing shooting again. You have the window

1262
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna now he's keeping it up in West. I

1263
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 1: think that's a victory for you. We'll see what Vegas

1264
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 1: says about it. But I think that's a small victory.

1265
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 1: That might be a sixteen one upset. But now you're

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Speaker 1: in the second round against better competition. Really, you have

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Speaker 1: a year now to court West. What's the first thing

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Speaker 1: you will do? Top office cup? Oh? Ye's it? Whoa um?

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Speaker 1: All right, there you go, Dave. Nice job, well done,

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Speaker 1: and Love will come calling for you eventually. Actually, I

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Speaker 1: have some spouts in the street that's saying, hey, things

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Speaker 1: aren't so bad Love Lane. This could be a little

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Speaker 1: tip for tat so to speak. Yeah, after just like

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Speaker 1: a large scale and his previous long, long term relationship,

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Speaker 1: things are finally looking up, looking up Eily's way. So

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Speaker 1: great times, Dave, great works, Thank you for your time.

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Speaker 1: I'm the sacred process. As I said, this is a

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Speaker 1: sacred process, and there's nothing to be gained by shutting

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Speaker 1: this down. I mean, there's only something to be gained

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Speaker 1: by considering how great Dave Eale could become a part

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Speaker 1: of it. You are my bus too, so I just

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Speaker 1: want to say I thought you did an excellent job.

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Speaker 1: You handle that very very well. There's only there's only

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Speaker 1: leverage to be gained by having your boss under your thumb.

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Speaker 1: For an entire year. All right, we was coming from.

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Speaker 1: We will be back, and by we I mean around

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Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. I will be going away next week,

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Speaker 1: so the gentleman will hold down the fort. Uh And

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Speaker 1: there will be another show on Monday, So make sure

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Speaker 1: you check that out. Check out this subreddit around the

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Speaker 1: NFL and leave comments. I don't know, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: be here if you're not gonna be here, Okay, well

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Speaker 1: we can work that out. After the show. There might

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Speaker 1: be a large scale shutdown of the operation. Uh, So

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Speaker 1: do all that and thank you for listening. Is Dan

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Speaker 1: Hands signing off four Quiet Storm, The Mailman, the Old Boss,

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Speaker 1: Connie Fox, Davey Heally, Senior news Editor, Well John Dave

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Speaker 1: Nice till Monday