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Speaker 1: In the Lab, a Texans podcast that takes a different

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Speaker 1: look at things. Drew Doherty and John Harris have their

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Speaker 1: lab coats and goggles on and the Bunsen burners burning.

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Speaker 1: Here's Drew.

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Speaker 2: Oh, hello John, good to see you, and you Drew.

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Speaker 3: Glad you're here. O Glad we're here.

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Speaker 2: Virtual hugs and that hug goes for you too. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're the third person in this. Not you, John, but

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Speaker 2: you listening or watching. You appreciate you. We're glad you're

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Speaker 2: with us. It's the three of us. So come on in.

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Speaker 2: Today is an either or show. And when I said John,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna do either or, Johnny, he pumped up. And

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Speaker 2: it's kind of like we're gonna 'er off. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: do either ors about the draft. But I want to

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Speaker 2: tell you get a thinking about pumped up. So I

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Speaker 2: did this this event last week out of Conico Phillips

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Speaker 2: and it was pretty fun. It was me interviewing Brian Cushing. Oh,

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Speaker 2: we're talking about a bunch of different things for a

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Speaker 2: lot of their employees. They're probably about fifty sixty people

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Speaker 2: in the room. Really cool crowd, really smart crowd. They

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Speaker 2: asked phenomenal questions some of the best questions I've ever

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Speaker 2: been asked. I've ever seen asked at an event like this.

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Speaker 2: But anyways, as I was coming down the hallway out

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Speaker 2: here before to leave for the event, a couple of

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Speaker 2: players were walking into the weight room. One of them

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Speaker 2: was Henry Totee linebacker fantastic season last year. In year two,

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Speaker 2: what's next, man, that's gonna be a in the lab

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Speaker 2: coming up. Don't you forget about me? You and Mark

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Speaker 2: have done that a time or two. We're but I

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Speaker 2: saw Henry, and you know, Henry's real off the field,

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Speaker 2: He's really easy going. I was like, what's you up to?

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Speaker 2: And he's like, oh, no, much, what you doing. I

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Speaker 2: was like, well, hey, I'm actually gonna go do an

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Speaker 2: interview with Brian Cushing and Henry something snapped. He's like,

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Speaker 2: that's a dog. Fran Cushing is a dog. So it

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Speaker 2: like it made me happy because he's young. Henry tote

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Speaker 2: and he saw a guy who plays his position for

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Speaker 2: the same franchise, and it was cool to see that.

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Speaker 2: And then I told that story at the crowd later

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Speaker 2: and as I was setting up, I said Henry Totoe

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Speaker 2: and Cushing. I didn't see him, but I heard him,

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Speaker 2: and kind of in the periphery I noticed he kind

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Speaker 2: of he tensed up. He's like, yeah, I think pushy

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Speaker 4: Yeah, mutual admiration it. Yeah, and that's really really cool.

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Speaker 2: And one little corollary from that. Before Cushing came in,

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Speaker 2: you might remember Brian Cushing as a muscular dude. I'm

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Speaker 2: talking with this lady that works for Conico Phillips. Nice lady.

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Speaker 2: We're chit chatting about some things. He comes in, meets

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Speaker 2: like this, She's like, he looks like Jack Reacher. Oh

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Speaker 2: not far.

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Speaker 4: Off man, Well, not far Do you know the guy

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Speaker 2: I can't remember names Alan Richson and I looked him up. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's and I've read some of the books. He's a

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Speaker 2: is like a big, burly, country strong, yeah looking guy. Right,

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Speaker 4: The irony of all ironies is the fact that one

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Speaker 4: on Blue Mountain State, a comedy, kind of a blue comedy,

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Speaker 4: if I mean, if it was it was a little

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Speaker 4: not saying go watch it or anything, but it's about

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Speaker 4: a college, you know, university, and it's every like wrong

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Speaker 4: stereo type. You know, the quarterback is you know, he

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Speaker 4: and is Alan Alan Richson. Right, He plays this kind

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Speaker 4: So the Cushing kind of parallels, you know, are there

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Speaker 3: Far far from that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But just the correlation that she had with that's

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Speaker 2: For it, but this just funny, innocent. He looks like

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Speaker 2: Jack read those who funny. That's really funny. Let's get

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Speaker 2: into the meat of the subject here. It's either or time. Okay,

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Speaker 2: when it comes to Houston Texans in the NFL Draft

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Speaker 2: last week, if you haven't seen it or listened, go

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Speaker 2: back and watch this in the lab that we did

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Speaker 2: because we did some a mock draft simulation. Yep, picked

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Speaker 2: a pretty good crop of Texans and remarkably, we didn't

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Speaker 2: make any trades because we didn't like any of the trades.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna happen. You don't think that's

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Speaker 2: gonna happen. You do think that you're going to move

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Speaker 2: things around like they always do they always have under

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Speaker 2: Nicosario during draft day weekend. But either or, all things

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Speaker 2: being equal, and a Mecca at Buka is there the

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Speaker 2: wide receiver from Ohio State. He's one of the most

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Speaker 2: mock players to the Texans. Yes, if he's available or

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Speaker 2: Gray Zabel is there out of those two, who would

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Speaker 2: you see that you think the Texans would take him?

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Speaker 3: If I if I.

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Speaker 4: Rely solely on my board, which you can see at

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Speaker 4: football taker dot com, I got my Harrison one hundred.

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Speaker 4: I'm still kind of getting it right where I want,

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Speaker 4: so I don't have it posted just yet, but it'll

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Speaker 3: My Harrison one hund I have a Buka post.

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Speaker 4: I have Abuka racked ahead of Gray's Abel just purely

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Speaker 4: where I have them ranked. And I I think grays

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Speaker 4: Abels ends up being a long time starter in this league,

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Speaker 4: but it might take a little bit. You know, having

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Speaker 4: And you know we've seen Titus, you know, have to

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Speaker 4: learn how to be an NFL guard from Alabama State and.

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Speaker 3: Uh or guard tackle.

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Speaker 4: I mean that it could be a challenge at times,

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Speaker 4: and I think Titus would be a good one to

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Speaker 4: caught everybody's attention, you know. And Gray's Abel did that

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Speaker 3: Was perfect. But you saw some of that grit and

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Speaker 4: And I know we've talked about the offensive line, and

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Speaker 4: I really would like to have offensive line in the

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Speaker 4: caliber of Gray's Abel, There's no question about that. But

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Speaker 4: look at the wide receiver position, I think what the

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Speaker 4: I think Justin Watson's flying well under the radar, which

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Speaker 4: run in Braxton Barrios as well. And then obviously the

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Speaker 4: trade for Christian Kirk. I think Kirk ends up being

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Speaker 4: your number two. But I think at twenty five, getting

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Speaker 4: a guy like a Buke. He's so steady and my

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Speaker 3: With this, and I've comped him to a young Robert Woods.

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Speaker 4: And what's funny is I went and I found a

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Speaker 4: highlight reel of Robert Woods from his time at USC

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Speaker 4: and I'm just like, I mean, first of all, the

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Speaker 4: type what they asked him to do, how gritty and

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Speaker 4: how swarming Robert Woods was and will remain throughout his career.

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Speaker 3: He's just obviously gotten up in years and been in

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Speaker 4: I'm like, man, I feel like I'm watching a Buka,

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Speaker 4: and I watch a Buka and I'm like, man, I.

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Speaker 3: Feel like I'm watching Robert Woods.

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Speaker 4: I feel like the same things I said about Robert

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Speaker 3: I have that feeling about Abuka and then you you realize.

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Speaker 4: It is off the field character, just his football character

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Speaker 4: are are pristine spot on. I don't know that about

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Speaker 4: Gray's abel. My gut tells me that there are no

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Speaker 4: like they rave rave about a buc at Ohio State,

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Speaker 4: I just feel like a Buka would be a perfect

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Speaker 4: perfect fit, and I want to go with a Buka.

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Speaker 3: I would go to the book.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's stick with him. He's there or Luther Burden,

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Speaker 2: Missouri Wide Receiver. Do you think the Texans would go

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Speaker 4: I you know, it's funny Bob again who now does

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Speaker 2: He gets anonymous scouts, keep it with Milwaukee, with green Baby.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was with Milwaukee Green Bay. It was in

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Speaker 4: Wisconsin Miwaukee Sentinel Journal, I think it was. And he

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Speaker 4: he didn't. There was a few things about Burden that

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Speaker 4: he said, you know, talking about the impact of his mom.

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Speaker 4: I guess his girlfriend or fiance runs all his management stuff.

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Speaker 3: And so there was.

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Speaker 4: A scout that was not very you know, uh story

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Speaker 4: way of saying it. He was not very positive about that.

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Speaker 4: Now we've we've seen situations like that in the past.

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Speaker 4: I I can tell you that I was told by it,

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Speaker 4: but numerous people about the impact of Sting's dad during

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Speaker 4: the draft process and all that kind of stuff, and

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Speaker 4: people thought that was going to be a major problem,

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Speaker 4: and I don't think it's it's even a problem.

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Speaker 3: And talking to h. Derkstingly Senior the.

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Speaker 4: Other day, you realize, Okay, you see exactly where Derricks

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Speaker 4: Stinglely gets it, and you're like.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that was not an issue.

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Speaker 4: So if I take that part of it out, I

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Speaker 4: just feel I feel like I trust Abuka a little

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Speaker 4: bit more.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I think Burden is electric.

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Speaker 4: My comper Burden actually is Deefon Diggs because about the

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Speaker 3: I don't think. I think Burden's probably just a tick faster.

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Speaker 4: You know Stephan always Stephen tests extremely well coming out

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Speaker 4: I don't think a Mecca has quite that burst, but

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Speaker 3: And the second one he does the same thing.

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Speaker 3: On back to back plays. I feel I feel really

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to Buka with a quarterback he's played

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Speaker 4: Golden speed and the depending on how you classify Travis

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Speaker 3: My my wider siver one is still t Mac Tedoro McMillan.

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Speaker 4: I think he is a uh. I think he's he's

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Speaker 4: I don't think McMillan's gonna get to us. My next

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Speaker 3: He's from Houston.

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Speaker 4: There's always been kind of this passion seemingly about Houston,

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Speaker 4: Kana could be wrong about that, but I just know

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Speaker 3: Fell in love with the guy when he said University Houston.

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Speaker 4: He had two kickoff returns for a touchdown and you're like, WHOA,

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Speaker 4: this guy is different. But I think his receiver game

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Speaker 4: And I think a guy like Matthew Golden absolutely. Now,

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Speaker 4: don't get me wrong, I think Abuka can give you

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Speaker 4: Golden at that point.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Josh Simmons, offensive tackle from Ohio State or Greats Abel,

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Speaker 2: like all those wide receivers are gone.

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Speaker 4: Okayll the receivers are gone. I've got Simmons or Zabel.

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Speaker 4: I really want to say Josh Simmons, And I think just.

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Speaker 2: Because you bring him in and you let all the

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Speaker 2: other competitions sort well, and he's part of the competition,

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Speaker 2: but let all that stuff sort out. Let the cream

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Speaker 3: You know me, You've been around me long enough. I

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Speaker 4: He's going into the draft though, He's gonna worry me

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Speaker 3: And I'm sorry, I was staying over Sauce the whole way.

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Speaker 4: And even though he had two straight years of injuries,

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Speaker 4: I was a Stingley guy the entire way in twenty

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Speaker 3: His first year on campus. So how it stayed he

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Speaker 4: I'm watching it and they had the CJ had left

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Speaker 4: That dude moves.

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Speaker 4: Kept watching him like, this guy's pretty good. Nobody's talking

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Speaker 4: And so continuing on in twenty twenty four, you Simmons

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Speaker 4: I'm like, man, no, he's talking about him, So am

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Speaker 4: I wrong?

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Speaker 3: All right, we'll see.

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Speaker 4: Well, all of a sudden, the first month of twenty

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Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, people, all right, I wasn't crazy.

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Speaker 2: Got it.

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Speaker 4: This dude is a natural tackle, natural the way he moves,

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Speaker 3: He is tough and gritty.

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Speaker 4: I I would end up taking Josh Simmons. In fact,

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Speaker 4: I got a feeling that Josh Simmons for me and

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Speaker 3: Saw said down, he's gonna be top fifteen.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, Zay will be around twenty nine to thirty,

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Speaker 4: could almost make a case he's the best pure tackle

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Speaker 2: Okaysago Simmons, how about this one. Either the Texans will

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Speaker 2: trade up to get Tyler Booker, oh, the guard from Alabama,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know how high they have to go

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Speaker 2: some AMMO. He's got Nick Caseroo, He's got four picks

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Speaker 2: in the top ninety some h plus plus extras next

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I Booker becomes really really interesting because I think I

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Speaker 3: Then you start, well, he's not that athletic.

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Speaker 4: Okay, he's gonna have issues with athletic bigs in the middle.

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Speaker 3: No, this guy is an alpha in the locker room.

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Speaker 4: That is something that has been discussed often about the

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Speaker 4: because I can make a case for Booker at eleven

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Speaker 4: to the nine Ers, Booker at twelve to the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: I can't see the Cowboys taking him.

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Speaker 3: I can't.

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Speaker 2: They need him, they need it. I can't see them

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Speaker 4: In my last mock draft, that's where I had Booker

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Speaker 4: going because I'm like, and it was just after Zach

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Speaker 4: Martin had retired, And if you think back to twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 2: It seems like too smart a move for them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's exactly right now.

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Speaker 4: Twenty fourteen, he made a smart move and it was

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Speaker 3: But I think the Cowboys will do something flashy.

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Speaker 4: I just had a feeling that this is a year

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Speaker 4: we're going some flash We want that wide receiver from

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Speaker 3: Like okay, But I.

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Speaker 4: Just have a feeling that when I when I heard

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Speaker 3: And he looked at will and.

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Speaker 4: Offseason and he steps in at guard and he is

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Speaker 3: Uh, he is strong as an ox. I mean his hands,

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Speaker 4: When he latches on to big strong dudes in the

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Speaker 3: Nowhere, is he perfect?

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Speaker 4: No? Is he gonna get beat by some quicker? You

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Speaker 3: Probably.

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Speaker 4: Quinn william beats everybody. Quin Williams beat Zach Martin and

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Speaker 4: gonna beat those guys. Well, Luckily we don't play Quin

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Speaker 4: go get Booker.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Kelvin Banks, Yes, the question.

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Speaker 2: You think they trade up to get Kevin bellas this.

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Speaker 4: Is my point, and you kind of alluded to this,

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Speaker 4: go up fifteen picks to go get Will Campbell because

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Speaker 4: I think one team to keep an eye on. And

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Speaker 4: I actually saw this on a website, the Atlanta Falcons.

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Speaker 3: They're sitting there at fifteen. Fifteen's a nice little sweet spots.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: Now that's ten picks. So you are gonna have to

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Speaker 4: But for for Booker, for Banks, for Golden, for those

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Speaker 3: Even maybe even t Mac.

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Speaker 4: The thing I like about all those guys that we're

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Speaker 4: The probability is that one of them will be there

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Speaker 4: so we don't have to give up extra draft land yap.

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Speaker 4: We can just sit here at twenty five. Now, if

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Speaker 4: you start seeing you know, you're sitting there thinking that

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Speaker 4: with the Falcons at fifteen.

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Speaker 3: But all of a sudden, two or three of them

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Speaker 3: go off the board.

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Speaker 4: The next five, Picture're like, oh, now, maybe they go

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Speaker 4: up and get one of those guys that ends up remaining,

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Speaker 4: And I think that could end up being Booker. As

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Speaker 4: much as I love Booker, I just think teams like

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Speaker 4: ay guard and Booker's a true guard. Booker isn't playing tackle.

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Speaker 4: Booker's not playing center. He is a guard, left guard mainly,

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Speaker 4: but I would imagine you could play right guard with

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Speaker 4: him too. He's a guard, and I think that I

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Speaker 4: don't want to say it hurts his value, but I

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Speaker 4: think it just maybe limits. There might be two teams

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Speaker 4: three teams.

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Speaker 2: That go sort of anchors it.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, we want a little bit more scheme flex

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Speaker 4: and we get that with Gray's Abel.

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Speaker 3: You got to know you haven't need a guard.

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Speaker 4: And the flip side of that is there are some

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Speaker 4: teams that definitely have needs that guard, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, let's uh, let's get rid of the

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Speaker 2: either orders. It's their final question the day. Let's say

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Speaker 2: some odd alternate universes out there and the Texans at

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Speaker 2: the first overall pick, Oh, they weren't going to trade it.

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Speaker 2: They're taking their player at number one overall. Who's the

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Speaker 2: pick for the Texans? Not a quarterback? Obviously, I know

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Speaker 2: exactly what I do. I know exactly what I do.

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Speaker 2: This would be Travis Hunter to me all day, every day.

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Speaker 4: And here's why I actually texted Sean Pendergast at some point.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why I was. I think they might

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Speaker 3: be talking about in the air, and I had a thought.

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Speaker 4: I was like, you know, I said, Sean kind of

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Speaker 4: half jokingly said if I were Nick, I'd trade everything.

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Speaker 3: I've got to.

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Speaker 4: Get up to go get Travis Hunter, because Travis would

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Speaker 4: end up killing two birds with one stone, because yes,

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Speaker 4: the Texans signed Ronald Darby.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a really good move.

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Speaker 4: But I feel like you could take Travis and you

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Speaker 4: could put him on a slot, or you could have

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Speaker 4: Travis play man and man on the outside and put

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Speaker 4: Kamari on a slot and have Sting, Travis Hunter and

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Speaker 4: Kamari Laster own man and man on the three best

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Speaker 4: receivers on the other side, and you are absolutely no

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Speaker 4: flies on at that point. Plus you then can add

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Speaker 4: Travis Hunter at receiver and he becomes the two or

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Speaker 4: three receiver, giving you downfield components, give you catch and

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Speaker 4: run situations, giving you kind of that that X factor.

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Speaker 4: You can give him push passes, jet sweeps, all that

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Speaker 4: kind of stuff, and you kill two birds with one stone.

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Speaker 3: So I to me, it would be Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 4: Now the flip side of that is my number one

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Speaker 4: overall player in Harrison one Hunters.

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Speaker 3: I do a Carter from Penn State.

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Speaker 4: But I'm not gonna sit there and tell you I

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Speaker 4: do a carter Daniel Hunter and Will Anderson wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: Sare a lot of people. I just feel like.

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Speaker 4: You could satisfy some needs with Travis Hunter on both

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Speaker 4: sides of the ball, And how exciting would that be

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Speaker 4: with the guy on both sides of the ball. And

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Speaker 4: he wouldn't have to be a full time on either side.

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Speaker 4: You just we need him in nickel situations.

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Speaker 3: Boom he's in. We need him at number three wide receiver,

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Speaker 3: and there might be a.

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Speaker 4: Game where hey, look we need Travis offensively in this

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Speaker 4: game where you need him defensively, Okay, focus on offense

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Speaker 4: that week. So I think it's gonna be really fun

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Speaker 4: for a team whatever they do with Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 3: But they better have a plan going in. That would

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Speaker 3: be my plan going in.

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Speaker 4: I'd be up front with Him's like, this is what

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Speaker 4: we're gonna do, and we're gonna get you.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get you.

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Speaker 4: Normally a player gets sixty sixty five plays a game.

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Speaker 4: About that, Travis, we're gonna play you eighty plays a game.

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Speaker 4: And we don't know how that split's gonna go, but

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Speaker 4: we know you're getting eighty plays a game. You almost

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Speaker 4: like your pitch count. Yeah, but I can do more.

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Speaker 4: We'll build it up, we'll build it up. But right now,

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Speaker 4: you're gonna play eighty plays and we're gonna mix it

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Speaker 4: with receiver and dB and it would be a perfect

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Speaker 4: perfect fit.

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Speaker 3: Uh in my estimation.

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Speaker 4: My worry is that quarterbacks, you know, Jackson Dart kind

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Speaker 4: of sneaks into the top three with cam Wardenshu or Sanders,

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Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, Travis Hunter is sitting there

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Speaker 4: available for the Jaguars. Like, no, I don't want, don't

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Speaker 4: want that to happen.

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Speaker 3: But we'll see.

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Speaker 4: But Travis Hunter would be my pick for that particular reason.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff be fun to see how practices go down.

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Speaker 2: Oh what's he doing in practice? With how long?

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Speaker 3: Et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Well, this has been fun, this alternate universe that

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Speaker 2: we go into sometimes in the lab, which is very

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Speaker 2: often if you've paid any attention to this over the year.

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Speaker 2: But John, it was a lot of fun. I appreciate

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Speaker 2: you checking us out. We couldn't do this without you,

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Speaker 2: so three of us. So tell your friends, tell your neighbors,

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Speaker 2: tell your family. And this has been in the Lab,

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Speaker 2: presented by Exfinity. We'll be back again next week with

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Speaker 2: some more fun