WEBVTT - The Ballad of Pancho Barnes

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio Yo, Elizabeth Duttons

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<v Speaker 1>Zaren Vernet. You got a second, I got a question, Chris.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been waiting to see you. Yeah, okay, thank god.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what's ridiculous? Yes? I knew you would know. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a mashup. It's okay, I take it back. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me let me read you some of the descriptions and

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<v Speaker 1>then you can fill in the blanks for me. Oh yay.

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<v Speaker 1>the simple perfection of blank. Um. Is it a pair

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<v Speaker 1>of shoes? No, it's let me just let me just

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<v Speaker 1>break it to you. It's not pretty. Is it a liquor? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, So that's a liquor. I'm close. It's something

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<v Speaker 1>you drink. Yeah, and it's potato flavor. It's a vodka.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're on the right track now, Vodka potato flavor

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<v Speaker 1>or honoring potatoes. So there's two, no, there's two kinds.

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<v Speaker 1>One is all about the you know, spicy curled potato

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<v Speaker 1>with cayenne and paprika, and the other one is the

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<v Speaker 1>salted potatoes shapes salt sugar. So I'm telling you today

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<v Speaker 1>about Arbie's vodka. What one is arbie curly fry vodka,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they also have a crinkle fry flavored vodka.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, they don't have like a meat sauce flavored vodka. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but they have like bloody mary recipes you can and

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<v Speaker 1>then you shove the fries up in the top, just

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<v Speaker 1>like as like a little dressing on the top curly hair.

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<v Speaker 1>What is going on in the boardrooms of these businesses

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<v Speaker 1>that they're like, look, we got a moment. What happens?

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<v Speaker 1>They gather around, they're like, check this out. Ridiculous crime

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<v Speaker 1>is recording again and Elizabeth needs a mashup. Let's get

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<v Speaker 1>on these guys, and they like take their jackets off

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<v Speaker 1>and loosen the ties and the gals in the room

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<v Speaker 1>who are really the bosses, you know, they just like

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<v Speaker 1>crack their knuckles. They get up to the whiteboard, huh,

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<v Speaker 1>start scribbling them out, and they're like, Okay, she's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>love this. God. Yeah, so that makes absolutely no sense.

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<v Speaker 1>No one will buy this five French Fry vodka eighty proof.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh perfect, It's all sold out. If you go to

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<v Speaker 1>Arby's Vodka dot com. The bottles are like they're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be like sixty bucks when they say sold out,

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<v Speaker 1>do they make like five hundred? And then like that's

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<v Speaker 1>why do they make any at all? Oh good question, Elizabeth,

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<v Speaker 1>Like your suspicions, I am very suspicious. Yeah, if you

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<v Speaker 1>got a second, I do I have one for you? Yes? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this this is right up your alley, right right up

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<v Speaker 1>my shooter alley at the shooter alley. Jagger Hoover and

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI and the US Air Force once went to

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<v Speaker 1>war against one woman. Oh yes, this one woman. She

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<v Speaker 1>was an aviation pioneer. But she'd run a foul of

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<v Speaker 1>the decency police because this one woman. Dare dared, Elizabeth

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<v Speaker 1>to let men and women have fun at a place

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<v Speaker 1>called the Happy Bottom Riding Club. This is Ridiculous Crime,

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heights and cons.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always sent murder free and one ridiculous Elizabeth Elizabeth. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a special one for you. I told you this.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're gonna like this lady. She's one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite American legends. Okay, her name Poncho Barnes. Poncho Barnes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a great name. Okay. To give you a sense

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<v Speaker 1>of her, I'm just gonna lay out her life philosophy.

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<v Speaker 1>She used to say, I thought you'd dig this when

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<v Speaker 1>you have a chance. She's happy. Oh yeah, that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. So you're ready to hear the Ballad

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<v Speaker 1>of Poncho Barnes. She was born Florence Leontine Low. She

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<v Speaker 1>came into this world on July twenty second, nineteen oh one. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, almost with the New century. She came by

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<v Speaker 1>her adventurous spirit naturally. Her grandfather was Thaddius S. C.

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<v Speaker 1>Low in a case you don't know, who was an

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<v Speaker 1>inventor who specialized in balloons, and he was an aviation pioneer.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're wondering, how is she an avination pioneer. Great question, Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the founder of the Army of the Potomac's

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<v Speaker 1>Balloon Corps, which means he fought for the Union Army

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<v Speaker 1>under Lincoln, which also means his balloon War affair was

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<v Speaker 1>the start of American military aviation. Wow, father of right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So her grandfather, Daddiuslowe also inspired her, this young tomboy

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<v Speaker 1>to dream of her own life among the clouds. So

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<v Speaker 1>when she's ten years old, he takes her to her

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<v Speaker 1>first air show. She loves it. Now, you gotta keep

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<v Speaker 1>in mind the Right brothers had just flown for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time when she was three years old. Now seven

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<v Speaker 1>years later, they are aviation pioneers, right. So she sees

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<v Speaker 1>this and she's like, oh, I gotta be in the sky. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>But first she's a young tom boy. She's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>should run away from home. So she runs away from home. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>she grew up in southern California in a town called

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<v Speaker 1>sam Marino. So for Pancho Barnes, running away meant grabbing

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<v Speaker 1>a horse and riding to Tijuana. That sounds great, right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, you know, in southern California back when

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<v Speaker 1>was mostly ranches, exactly orange orchards. So she just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>takes off for Tijuana and has a good old time.

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<v Speaker 1>Her family finally catches up her and they force her

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<v Speaker 1>back to America. They enroll her in a religious school.

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<v Speaker 1>How old was she when she about twelve thirteen, so

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<v Speaker 1>one of many religious schools she goes to. Finally she

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<v Speaker 1>graduates and she's like, oh, I want to become a veterinarian.

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<v Speaker 1>And her mother's like, no, no, no, that's not a

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<v Speaker 1>right profession for a young lady. And she's like, but

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<v Speaker 1>I really love animals, and she's like, no, no, no no,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna put you in art school. That's a good

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<v Speaker 1>thing for a lady who's creative in fiery like you.

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<v Speaker 1>And her grandma's like no, no no, no, no, no art school,

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<v Speaker 1>no no, no no. We're gonna get her married, like

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<v Speaker 1>all good wayward girls should be. So they arrange a marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point, she's nineteen years old. The marriage is

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<v Speaker 1>to this reverend. It doesn't last long, it doesn't sound

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<v Speaker 1>like a good match. They were intimate just once on

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<v Speaker 1>their wedding night. That's it. And eventually a couple years later,

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<v Speaker 1>her mother passes away, and this kind of sets something

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<v Speaker 1>loose and poncho. She's like, I gotta get free. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It reawakens in her that sense of longing for adventure.

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<v Speaker 1>She runs off from her husband Rome's America, starts having fairs.

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<v Speaker 1>She's also a footloose and fancy free young heiress, a

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<v Speaker 1>tomboy with money to spend because when her mother died

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<v Speaker 1>she left her about eight million dollars in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three dollars. Whoa, So she uses her inheritance to party

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<v Speaker 1>and enjoy. Yeah, she's twenty three years. I was sorry

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<v Speaker 1>when she when this first happens, she gets married, she's nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>When the mother passes, she's twenty three, so there's nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four. Yeah right, so yeah, Flapper era total like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the it girl. Clara Bow is the thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and she, by the way, is a pilot, so you

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<v Speaker 1>know this is in the air. Right. So she decides,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm gonna go out and keep me

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<v Speaker 1>some adventure. Now that I got some money, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to work unless she goes to South America, takes

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<v Speaker 1>a cruise down South America, has a ball, just enjoys

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<v Speaker 1>herself all the heck. She gets back to America and

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, you know what, forget this, I'm going back

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<v Speaker 1>to South America. But this time she's like, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do things a little bit different. I want to have

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<v Speaker 1>more adventure than I could last time. I'm ditching the dresses.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go and be, you know, dressed as a man. Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is how she earned her nickname Poncho. She

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<v Speaker 1>goes back to South America and she rides on a

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<v Speaker 1>banana boat and she gets okay, dresses a man exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>She books passed it down to banana boat. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>while she's on banana boat, she discovers it. The true

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<v Speaker 1>has this little secret that they did not tell her before.

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<v Speaker 1>She said sale. Turns out they are smuggling guns to

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<v Speaker 1>the Mexican revolutionaries. Oh well, she gets caught up in

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<v Speaker 1>the Mexican Revolution. This is the Cristero Revolution, when you

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<v Speaker 1>had warriors for Christ fighting against thee the Constitution nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>it must have been much safer for her to travel

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<v Speaker 1>in men's cloth completely. Yeah, you're right on with that,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I am. When she gets caught in her

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<v Speaker 1>men's clothes with all the other revolutionaries, Mexican officials, they

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<v Speaker 1>take the boat. The guns are seas. The revolutionaries are

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<v Speaker 1>in prison, which includes Poncho Barnes. So she gets locked

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<v Speaker 1>up as a revolutionary for about a month and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>While she's inside, she bonds with this other American who

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<v Speaker 1>was on the boat as well. His name was Roger

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<v Speaker 1>Shoot and Rogers Shoot is the helmsman on the but

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<v Speaker 1>on a boat. No, he's a well off American, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>rich kid, and he's out there for quote the thrill

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Interesting. Yeah, he's a Stanford graduate. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>marine biologist, studies fishery. So he's like a smart cat,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, well to do footloose, fancy free, just like Poncho.

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<v Speaker 1>Two of them decide, you know, we need to escape

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<v Speaker 1>this Mexican prison. So they managed to steal a horse

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<v Speaker 1>and a burrow and they take off on burrowback and

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<v Speaker 1>horseball and they head for the American border. But then,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, now that we're free and in Mexico,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we should kick around for a little bit. So

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<v Speaker 1>they kick around Mexico. I figure you'd enjoy this. They're

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<v Speaker 1>eating good food, enjoying all the sites, learning some Spanish.

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<v Speaker 1>They decide, you know what, we should become lovers. So

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<v Speaker 1>they become lovers. They spend seven months bouncing around Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>At one point they're like, we should probably get back

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<v Speaker 1>to America. So they're in Mexico City and they decide

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<v Speaker 1>we'll walk down to Vera Cruz. So they walked down

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<v Speaker 1>to Ericaus, which is on the Gulf Coast. For those

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<v Speaker 1>who don't know, it's about a two hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>mile overland walk. But they want a book passage. So

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<v Speaker 1>they're traversing the Mexican countryside. And at this point, she's

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<v Speaker 1>still known as Florence Leontine. So Flow is like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>making a joke about her lover Roger, and she's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're hit like that windmill jousting hero don Quixote. And

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<v Speaker 1>he laughs and he's well educated, so he's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>then that makes you Poncho. She it's a moun props them.

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<v Speaker 1>She corrects them. She's like, don Quixote's sidekick was Sancho Panza. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, ah, right, right. He's like, well, no matter,

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<v Speaker 1>the nickname sticks. They start calling her Poncho, so she

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<v Speaker 1>becomes Poncho for the rest of her life. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>great nickname, right, totally. Yeah, I mean it's it's not

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<v Speaker 1>as good as Dizzy, but it's good. Uh, you see

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<v Speaker 1>me looking away for the camera. So Florence Leontine Low

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<v Speaker 1>is now Poncho Barnes, right, Poncho and Roger. They head

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<v Speaker 1>back to America and leave Mexico behind. They try to

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<v Speaker 1>go up to the Mississippi, like where the waters are

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<v Speaker 1>coming out in New Orleans. They make it to New Orleans,

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<v Speaker 1>they get off the boat, and then they now have

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<v Speaker 1>to cross America because they're both from California. So they hitchhike,

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<v Speaker 1>they train hop when there's no vehicle available, they walk.

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<v Speaker 1>They end up taking another huge trek seventeen hundred miles

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<v Speaker 1>from New Orleans to California. But these are like trust

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<v Speaker 1>fund kids in totally, and they're gonna cross the Southwest,

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<v Speaker 1>which is no easy place. You miss that train, you're

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<v Speaker 1>stuck in the Arizona desert, right, Yeah, So they're like managing,

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<v Speaker 1>right exactly. So on this they get back to California,

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<v Speaker 1>and now the lover's part way, so they both you know,

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<v Speaker 1>young and impetuous boom. Pancho settles into her life as

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<v Speaker 1>a rich girl in San Marino. She's got this cousin

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<v Speaker 1>who's got this new hobby. She's taking flying lessons ponchos like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll ride down with you. She sees the plane, she

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<v Speaker 1>sees the instructors, She's like, I gotta fly too, So

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<v Speaker 1>she hops in there instant pilot. She just takes to

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<v Speaker 1>it immediately. So she's you know, she has like this

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<v Speaker 1>is biplane error right, So right, this is like you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>like when you're imagining like the leather sided, open cockpit,

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<v Speaker 1>double wings. So this is how she's flying now. These planes,

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<v Speaker 1>least the one that she learned on, it had just

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<v Speaker 1>one instrument, like didn't have an instrument panel like an

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<v Speaker 1>on off switch. Basically, there was an oil gage to

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<v Speaker 1>let her know how much oil the engine had. That

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<v Speaker 1>was that's it. That's the only girl. No fuel, no altimeter,

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<v Speaker 1>no spiedometer, no. So for the altimeter, what she had

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<v Speaker 1>was you look over the side of the cockpit. That's

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<v Speaker 1>how high like a string they have that that's kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how she knows how much a gas there is.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a string that you dip into the gas

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<v Speaker 1>and it's I could have built these early planes. If

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<v Speaker 1>it's wet, there's fuel. If it's dry, try to land exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>but also the the you know, there's like a horizon

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<v Speaker 1>gage in a plane. The horizon gage is just a

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<v Speaker 1>key chain tide. So if it's level, your level, if hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to look out the window. So that's how

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<v Speaker 1>she learns to fly in this early flying machine. And

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<v Speaker 1>she absolutely like the long flowing scarf and the level completely,

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<v Speaker 1>the leather like like helmet, and then the goggles on top,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the white like flowing scarooy in the back

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<v Speaker 1>and snoopy in woodstock both yes, you know it. I

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<v Speaker 1>was there. So it took her only six hours before

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<v Speaker 1>she could fly solo for the first time. That's like

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<v Speaker 1>unheard of six hours. And she's like, I'm good to go.

0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:49.400
<v Speaker 1>She's like hey, hey, And so she earns her pilot's

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<v Speaker 1>license pretty quickly. She was so early in aviation history

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<v Speaker 1>that Orville Wright signed her pilot's license. No, No, that's

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<v Speaker 1>like a joke, like exactly, like what you're doing the

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<v Speaker 1>dozens like your mom's So she got rrible right on exactly.

0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.800
<v Speaker 1>So now she's a pilot, she's got horrible rights in

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<v Speaker 1>premature on her license. She's like, I need a plane.

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<v Speaker 1>So what does she do? Well, she's rich, so she

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<v Speaker 1>goes and buys herself a nice biplane. She buys the

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<v Speaker 1>travel Air speed Wing, which is like a real cutting

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<v Speaker 1>edge plane. Can people walk on the wing? Yeah? They could. Actually,

0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:21.960
<v Speaker 1>it's that type of plane. So this one was owned

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<v Speaker 1>by Howard Hawks, the film director of Screwball Comedies like

0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:27.760
<v Speaker 1>Bringing a Baby. Oh really okay, So it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a well maintained plane, but it's still

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<v Speaker 1>pretty experimental, right, So the first time she flies it,

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<v Speaker 1>she sides, I don't want to fly it across country.

0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:36.480
<v Speaker 1>So she tries flying it. The first time. She has

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<v Speaker 1>to set it down eight times for emergency landings, eight times,

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<v Speaker 1>almost gonna tootle up to a pebble beach exactly. She's like, not,

0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:49.360
<v Speaker 1>I'll make it up bouncing down again. So she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pretty good at flying. None of this is

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<v Speaker 1>really terribly scary for her. So she starts competing in

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<v Speaker 1>air races, and she starts doing barnstorming exhibitions. At one

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<v Speaker 1>point she has Poncho Barnes's Mystery Circus of the Air.

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<v Speaker 1>Mystery Circus of the Air. That's flying spectacle, that's amazing.

0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:07.200
<v Speaker 1>She also has the her favorite sunt that she would

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<v Speaker 1>pull was called the surprise parachute. She would invite a

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<v Speaker 1>member of the audience to take their first airplane flight.

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<v Speaker 1>And because she's like, you know, she'd remember herself as

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<v Speaker 1>a young girl, she'd usually pick a girl. Said she

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<v Speaker 1>get a girl out on the plane. She strapped the

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<v Speaker 1>girl into a parachute, so she's the kid would be safe.

0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:26.000
<v Speaker 1>She'd take them up in the biplane and once they

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<v Speaker 1>are high enough that everyone can see them and the

0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:30.400
<v Speaker 1>people look tiny from the ground, she would toss the

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<v Speaker 1>child out of the plane. No, without telling the child,

0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:35.800
<v Speaker 1>they're going to be taught out of the plane. Elizabeth,

0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:40.720
<v Speaker 1>wait and the total surprise is injected from the byplane

0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:43.960
<v Speaker 1>rang a parachute. The child plummets back to the air surprise.

0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:46.640
<v Speaker 1>The child doesn't know how to like yank the parachute

0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.040
<v Speaker 1>yard right, So they had like a string attached to

0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:51.600
<v Speaker 1>the plane that would pull the rip cord from the plane.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. And it's like if that didn't work,

0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's gonna happen. It always worked, so

0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:57.680
<v Speaker 1>no kids were hurt, and the kid would parachute to Earth.

0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm not a parent, right, could you imagine someone

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, so it was a different time. Yeah, yeah,

0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:11.000
<v Speaker 1>this is like far less lutitious exactly, which is interesting

0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.840
<v Speaker 1>because later on her life she sued everybody. Well, yeah, sue,

0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:16.120
<v Speaker 1>sue you exact, but like, how many times was her

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<v Speaker 1>life threatened by an angry father or mother? No reports

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<v Speaker 1>to that that I could find, but I assume that

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<v Speaker 1>that I didn't make the papers. I don't know. Nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine, a couple years later, she's doing the powder

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<v Speaker 1>Puff Air Derby. This it's a race specifically for female

0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:32.960
<v Speaker 1>pilots because there's a bunch now female pilots growing because

0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Emilie aarhart Is is blowing everyone's mind. Flying is a

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<v Speaker 1>gendered event exactly. So she's coming in for a landing

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<v Speaker 1>at one point and the truck is trying to cross

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<v Speaker 1>the runway ahead of her planning and the driver misjudges

0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:48.120
<v Speaker 1>the distance, doesn't realize how fast she's trying to come in.

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<v Speaker 1>She nails the truck on the runway, totally walks away

0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:53.480
<v Speaker 1>on scathe, just like, yeah, well you know. It can

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<v Speaker 1>reinded me of the film The Great Waldo Pepper, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a Robert Redford film about the flying days, and

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<v Speaker 1>he has a couple of crashes. I just kept picturing

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<v Speaker 1>her doing that. The plane's upside down in the grass.

0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:09.920
<v Speaker 1>She walks away like exactly lucky. So meanwhile, August first,

0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.960
<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty, she's flying in her new travel air type

0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.920
<v Speaker 1>our Mystery Ships, the new fastest plane that she can buy.

0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:19.240
<v Speaker 1>Mystery Ship. Yeah right, great name. So Ponto Barnes officially

0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:23.160
<v Speaker 1>becomes the fastest woman alive. Yes. Wow. She shatters Amelia

0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Earhart speed record and the record at the time she

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<v Speaker 1>gets his one hundred and ninety six point one nine

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<v Speaker 1>miles an hour. Whoa yeah. So about the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>she becomes friends with aviation Maverick Howard Hughes, friend of

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<v Speaker 1>the show, right, and Hughes was designing aircraft like unlike

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<v Speaker 1>anyone else, but she's doing this in like an air

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<v Speaker 1>GLOPPI well, at this point she's buying nicer and nicer place. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing like that. These are all like propeller planes were

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty, So you can't even really fly. It's an

0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:56.320
<v Speaker 1>air gloppy with a big ratchette spinning. She and Howard

0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Hughes have the same love of speed, so he hires

0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:01.680
<v Speaker 1>her to fly in his movie Be the Hell's Angels. Right, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>That so she becomes a stunt pilot in Hollywood, and

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<v Speaker 1>then she starts a union for pilots called the Associated

0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:10.080
<v Speaker 1>Motion Picture Pilots, And this is one of the first

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<v Speaker 1>unions in Hollywood. So you can probably now start to

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<v Speaker 1>see why she's a personal heroine, total badass, right, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So let's take a quick break and then I'll get

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<v Speaker 1>back into how Poncho Barnes got into a fight with

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<v Speaker 1>the US Air Force and became friends with Chuck Yeager. Now, Elizabeth, yes, sar,

0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:48.480
<v Speaker 1>we're back. Oh we are, Yeah, that's us cool. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>You may have noticed when I was talking before that

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<v Speaker 1>we were bouncing around in the early days of aviation. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed that. I thought, you once, you're pretty quick,

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<v Speaker 1>and you you've heard some iconic names, Howard Hughes, a

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<v Speaker 1>millionaire heart. So we are kind of sidestepping the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that in nineteen thirty there is another major social trend

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<v Speaker 1>other than aviation shaping lives nineteen thirty. Yeah, the Great Depression. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, exactly, the Great In nineteen twenty nine stock

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<v Speaker 1>market crash and kicks off the Great Depression. Pancho Barns

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<v Speaker 1>and Heiress, you'd think Oh, she's somewhat buffeted from all

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<v Speaker 1>of the undulations of the stock market. But she isn't

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<v Speaker 1>immune to the Great Depression. Pretty much, no one was

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<v Speaker 1>unless they're super wealthy. So in early nineteen thirties, she

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<v Speaker 1>has to rent out her family estate in San Marino.

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<v Speaker 1>Later on, this is the family home she grew up

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<v Speaker 1>in where she had horses that she ride in Tijuana. Right,

0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:35.440
<v Speaker 1>So the depression drags on. She then has to sell

0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:38.719
<v Speaker 1>the family estate. She leaves her life in Hollywood behind,

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<v Speaker 1>and she leaves all of her hard partying, high flying days,

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<v Speaker 1>and she moves out to the desert. Huh. She buys

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<v Speaker 1>herself a four room ranch house. It's located in a

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<v Speaker 1>super rural area known as the Antelope Valley to Antelope

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<v Speaker 1>Valley Okay, yeah, yeah, high desert if you take the

0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:56.840
<v Speaker 1>five out of La Yeah. Okay, So it's east of

0:18:56.960 --> 0:18:59.080
<v Speaker 1>La it's in the mountains. It's on this high desert plain.

0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:01.399
<v Speaker 1>And she buys this, and surrounding her is this one

0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:05.120
<v Speaker 1>hundred and eighty acre alfalfa farm. And meanwhile her neighbors

0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:08.520
<v Speaker 1>are this place called Muroc Dry Lake. Murroc Dry Lake.

0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:10.879
<v Speaker 1>It's a huge expanse of land unsuitable for farming or

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<v Speaker 1>anything else. It's pretty much just a dry riverbed, all dusty,

0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:15.760
<v Speaker 1>brooke and earth. But it's the home of the young

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<v Speaker 1>Army Air Corps. They use the dry lake to as

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<v Speaker 1>a testing ground for plane pilots. Yeah, the training camp

0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:23.840
<v Speaker 1>would one day grow and spread and become Edwards Air

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<v Speaker 1>Force Base. No way, Okay, it starts back then. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was putting the map in my head right now, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So Ponto Barn she's sets up shop next to Murroc

0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:38.199
<v Speaker 1>Dry Lake Training Camp. Being a pilot aviation pioneer herself,

0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:40.920
<v Speaker 1>she becomes fast friends with all the pilots and officers.

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<v Speaker 1>Soon enough she's like opened it up her place for

0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:45.200
<v Speaker 1>pilots to come and drink and eat and relax. There's

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<v Speaker 1>not really plenty places to go, and they're all really

0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:50.800
<v Speaker 1>enjoying the wildflowers in the spring, which is Antelope Valley

0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:54.840
<v Speaker 1>super booms. Yes, So the government signs contracts with her

0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:56.879
<v Speaker 1>and they have her supply the Army Air car with

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<v Speaker 1>not only pilots and planes that she recommends and instructor

0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:02.320
<v Speaker 1>that she knows, but also to sell them hog meat

0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:04.920
<v Speaker 1>and milk. So she gets the trash from the base

0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:06.639
<v Speaker 1>she feeds it to the pigs and then sells the

0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:08.399
<v Speaker 1>pigs back to the base. Hey, it's the circle of

0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:11.440
<v Speaker 1>lights exactly. So by the end of the decade the depression,

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<v Speaker 1>it's nineteen thirty nine. Ponto Barnes has created quite a

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<v Speaker 1>spread for herself. She's managed her way through the depression.

0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:19.359
<v Speaker 1>She's now named the place Rancho autroo Verde, which, for

0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:22.120
<v Speaker 1>those who don't speak Spanish means green gold ranch. So

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<v Speaker 1>World War two probably a reference to the poppies and

0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:30.000
<v Speaker 1>the wildfli exactly, and the alfalfa. Well. World War two

0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:32.480
<v Speaker 1>kicks off in nineteen thirty nine. Two years later, the

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<v Speaker 1>US enters the fight after Pearl Harbor. Poncho Barnes's business

0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:38.760
<v Speaker 1>is now a booming as the military ramps up its operations.

0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:42.280
<v Speaker 1>That same year, in nineteen forty one, Ponto Barnes enlarges

0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:44.639
<v Speaker 1>her ranch. So now she adds a swimming pool. She

0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:46.920
<v Speaker 1>adds a fish pond that shaped like the new Air

0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Force emblem, because the Air Force is now the US

0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:51.760
<v Speaker 1>the Army Air Force, so they become the Air Force

0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:53.840
<v Speaker 1>on their own. Because she makes it like that laurel

0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:55.439
<v Speaker 1>wreath that they have, She's like, oh, I'll make a

0:20:55.480 --> 0:20:58.560
<v Speaker 1>pool like that. Yes, so she also she creates a

0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:02.560
<v Speaker 1>private hangar plane for fan totally. She's like people who

0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:06.760
<v Speaker 1>love an NFL team and everything in the for the

0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:09.679
<v Speaker 1>pool in the backyard. So she also has a private

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<v Speaker 1>hanger because she's stole pilot, so she has planes being

0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:14.560
<v Speaker 1>able to land. She has two airstrips, and she puts

0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:16.800
<v Speaker 1>in a race track. Oh why not because you wants

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<v Speaker 1>to get Hollywood people who come out speed exact, you

0:21:19.800 --> 0:21:22.520
<v Speaker 1>get it. That's why she's my girl, right the drum

0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:24.879
<v Speaker 1>up business. She starts advertising in the LA paper. She

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<v Speaker 1>claims that she has a quote modern flying dude ranch. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's the perfect place for the famous and the

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<v Speaker 1>wealthy to come and kick up their heels and get

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<v Speaker 1>away from it all. For forty nine dollars a week,

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<v Speaker 1>she'll give you food, board and all the fun you

0:21:36.720 --> 0:21:39.720
<v Speaker 1>can manage. That. That's such like an old Hollywood. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a perfect time. Total. Yeah, I love I Just

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<v Speaker 1>if I could go to a place like this, Oh

0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:47.880
<v Speaker 1>you know how much I would spend exactly? You would

0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:50.000
<v Speaker 1>be holed up in there? Oh my god. Yes. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>so the Hollywood crowd begins to wing out to Poncho

0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:54.639
<v Speaker 1>Barnes is modern flying dude ranch. They mix with the

0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:57.600
<v Speaker 1>pilots and the clientele. They all love each other. The

0:21:57.680 --> 0:22:00.160
<v Speaker 1>pilots like the stars, the stars like the pilot. It's

0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:02.320
<v Speaker 1>a fusion of both of her world. So now she

0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:05.560
<v Speaker 1>can talk planes and plane crashes. She can spill gossip

0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:09.080
<v Speaker 1>and talk shop. Both crowds are also hard drinkers, so

0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:12.359
<v Speaker 1>everybody's really enjoying themselves. And she becomes this desert legend

0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:14.040
<v Speaker 1>of like all you gotta go out to Poncho Barnes's

0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:16.959
<v Speaker 1>place the war ends. And so now Poncho renames her

0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:21.040
<v Speaker 1>place Ponchos fly in Like yeah, okay, right, because it's

0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:24.320
<v Speaker 1>super super fly girl. So she upgrades it again. I

0:22:24.320 --> 0:22:26.920
<v Speaker 1>thought you want to know this time. She adds riding stables,

0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:29.760
<v Speaker 1>she adds motel rooms, she adds a rock fountain to

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<v Speaker 1>go with the fish pond. Beautiful. She also expands her airport,

0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:36.120
<v Speaker 1>adds a control tower and for her two airstrips. Yeah,

0:22:36.119 --> 0:22:40.080
<v Speaker 1>and so the thing is is that she loves horses,

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<v Speaker 1>right yack, I told you that. So she wants to

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<v Speaker 1>make it so everybody can ride horses all around the ramp.

0:22:44.680 --> 0:22:46.280
<v Speaker 1>But when they get done riding. They shouldn't have to

0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:48.840
<v Speaker 1>go back to the paddock, and like in the stables,

0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:50.840
<v Speaker 1>She's like, why didn't you just ride right into the pool.

0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:52.960
<v Speaker 1>So she creates a ramp so you can ride a

0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:57.840
<v Speaker 1>horse ride into the giant pool. What yes? Wait? Was

0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:01.760
<v Speaker 1>she in reference in that movie The Right Stuff? Yes? Okay,

0:23:01.920 --> 0:23:05.800
<v Speaker 1>totally is the bar where they all go okay, yeah,

0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:08.439
<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah. So nineteen forty seven, the Ranch earns a

0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:10.760
<v Speaker 1>new nickname. A friend of Poncho Barnes is out there.

0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:12.800
<v Speaker 1>He's at the ranch taking a horseback ride because she

0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:15.000
<v Speaker 1>loves doing that, in racing across the desert all fast.

0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:17.000
<v Speaker 1>When they get back out from the trail, he tells

0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Poncho He's like, man, I love being back in the

0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:24.240
<v Speaker 1>saddle again. It quote gave me a happy bottom. After

0:23:24.280 --> 0:23:27.360
<v Speaker 1>a little teasing of her friends, the name sticks. Pablo

0:23:27.440 --> 0:23:30.320
<v Speaker 1>renames her ranch the Happy Bottom Riding Club. Did you

0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:33.960
<v Speaker 1>feel happy in your bottom? Exactly? How happy is your bottom?

0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:36.760
<v Speaker 1>So it made me feel so happy at the same

0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:40.800
<v Speaker 1>time the bottom, my bottom is grinning the same time

0:23:40.800 --> 0:23:43.159
<v Speaker 1>the test pilots stationed out amrock Dry Lake. But I

0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:52.800
<v Speaker 1>was sad in my chest? Are you going? I'm just

0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:54.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm just working out. You got like a

0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:59.320
<v Speaker 1>mournful elbow. So the pilots of Rock Dry Lake, we're

0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:02.480
<v Speaker 1>nineteen forties. Even a big thing happens in nineteen forty seven.

0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:04.720
<v Speaker 1>That's not the Roswell air crash, but another big thing

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:06.879
<v Speaker 1>in the air. Do you know what it is? Uh no,

0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:09.760
<v Speaker 1>break the sound barrier? Oh right, this is the right

0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:13.560
<v Speaker 1>different exactly that you were talking about earlier. So this

0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:16.560
<v Speaker 1>is super movie. I'm pretending I saw it. I just

0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:19.640
<v Speaker 1>you know me. Yeah, it's fuzzy. Yeah, you're younger, pilots,

0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:23.040
<v Speaker 1>you're young. It was a different time. So the problem

0:24:23.080 --> 0:24:26.119
<v Speaker 1>of the speed barrier is, you like, the pilots just

0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:28.600
<v Speaker 1>couldn't manage to get up to it and break problem.

0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:32.520
<v Speaker 1>So it becomes this impenetrable wall in the air. Right,

0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:34.200
<v Speaker 1>So the pilots are all trying to do it. They're

0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:35.399
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out how to do it. They've got

0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:37.840
<v Speaker 1>jets now, so that's the key that Obviously peller won't

0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:39.960
<v Speaker 1>get them fast enough that the jets will, but they

0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:42.480
<v Speaker 1>still can't get up to Mock one. They're trying and trying.

0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:45.000
<v Speaker 1>They don't know how to do it. So she she

0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:47.080
<v Speaker 1>makes a bet. Pancho Barnes says, I'll give a free

0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:49.760
<v Speaker 1>steak dinner to whichever one of you flyboys manages to

0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:52.960
<v Speaker 1>break the speed of sound barrier. Right, So they all

0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:55.240
<v Speaker 1>these young test pilots and future as They're like, oh,

0:24:55.240 --> 0:24:58.359
<v Speaker 1>there's a steak dinner on the line. Okay, now, now

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:00.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm really going to put my back and so yeah

0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:03.720
<v Speaker 1>they do. And there's one young pilot who is a

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:06.200
<v Speaker 1>favorite of hers. And this dude his name is Chuck Yeager.

0:25:06.720 --> 0:25:08.480
<v Speaker 1>So he was a hero of mine as a boy,

0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:11.479
<v Speaker 1>fastest man alive, the first person to break the sound barrier.

0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:13.680
<v Speaker 1>I was a little sad to find out later on

0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:16.320
<v Speaker 1>that he specifically worked to make sure that there were

0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:19.520
<v Speaker 1>no black pilots at at the morocc Try training camp.

0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 1>There was one, and he made him leave, like yeah,

0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, oh, Chuck, I used to love

0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:27.359
<v Speaker 1>you anyway. So whatever racism in the military in nineteen forties,

0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:29.360
<v Speaker 1>no great surprise. Yeah, And he's like a good old

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:31.720
<v Speaker 1>boy anyway. So Pacho Barnes has her standing off for

0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:34.280
<v Speaker 1>Chuck Yeager. He goes, I'm getting that free steak dinner.

0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:36.879
<v Speaker 1>Everyone knows that Chuck Yeager is most likely going to

0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:39.000
<v Speaker 1>break it. But they don't know is that He and

0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Pacho Barnes to go out the night before. The riding

0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:42.719
<v Speaker 1>horse is all fast in the desert because I love

0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:45.200
<v Speaker 1>to go fast. He falls off the horse, breaks his ribs.

0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 1>The next days power the next day he has to

0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:52.480
<v Speaker 1>go up and fly with broken ribs. Doesn't want anybody

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:54.520
<v Speaker 1>to know he does it. He goes up and he

0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:57.720
<v Speaker 1>breaks the speed of sound with broken ribs. That night

0:25:57.760 --> 0:26:00.159
<v Speaker 1>he goes back to the Happy Bottom Riding Club. They

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:03.399
<v Speaker 1>have an epic party and so begins a tradition that

0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:05.960
<v Speaker 1>every time a speed record follows steak dinner at the

0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Happy Bottom. Okay, so she's digging this because it's all

0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:12.439
<v Speaker 1>like her early days in the aviation and everything's about speed,

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:15.160
<v Speaker 1>you know. She she brokes a million air hearts speed record.

0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:18.200
<v Speaker 1>They all know that. So everybody's just fast, fast, faster,

0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:21.120
<v Speaker 1>and they're just so happy. In nineteen forty seven, the war,

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:23.480
<v Speaker 1>they've they've won the war. Now they're about to be

0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:25.760
<v Speaker 1>able to go into space. And they know this because

0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:27.960
<v Speaker 1>these are they also the young astronauts. She pointed out

0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:30.920
<v Speaker 1>with right stuff. So Pancho Barnes then it's like gets

0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:33.439
<v Speaker 1>bored with speed being the new prize. So she's like,

0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:35.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, no more steak dinners. I'm gonna come up

0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:37.640
<v Speaker 1>with something else. So she comes up with the Booby Prize.

0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:42.120
<v Speaker 1>So the Booby Prize is a pilot gets to walk

0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 1>across a sheet of rubber falsies, like a whole sheet

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 1>like fake breasts. Yeah, so it's like I guess, so

0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. She knows somebody in Los Angeles is like,

0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:55.680
<v Speaker 1>I got plenty of fake chesticles for you, and they're

0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:57.560
<v Speaker 1>just and they walk on them. They walk on them

0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:01.720
<v Speaker 1>like a like hot coals, and the embarrassed and I

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:06.360
<v Speaker 1>don't know, it's so happy and like I'm so masculing,

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:09.240
<v Speaker 1>and the boobies are touching like weird. Wait I gotta okay,

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:12.000
<v Speaker 1>so wait when the sheets like how many? Why do

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:14.840
<v Speaker 1>you think it is? Like it does briefly so I

0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:18.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know how many. I have no idea. And these

0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:23.320
<v Speaker 1>were like plastics. These are rubber breasts that you would

0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:26.480
<v Speaker 1>put in like as either replacement or like as for

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 1>cup girth, you know, if you want to build up

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 1>the cup of the falsees. Okay, So that's what it is.

0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:33.439
<v Speaker 1>It was just like a whole little that's what it is.

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 1>That's what it is, Elizabeth. It's just false. What can

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I tell you? And this and this was the what'd

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:41.240
<v Speaker 1>you say? This was the second prize. Ye, this is

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:43.520
<v Speaker 1>the booby prize. So if you don't get a steak dinner,

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 1>then you got to walk on talk on the boobies

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:49.879
<v Speaker 1>on the booby and everyone goes, he all right, all right.

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:53.240
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, the Happy Bottom is now officially a pilot's hangout.

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:57.120
<v Speaker 1>It's just super masculine. Their whining the walls, we want

0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:59.760
<v Speaker 1>to step on boots. Okay, well, I see where you're

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:03.920
<v Speaker 1>respect go. So they have their decals everywhere. Their propellers

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:07.120
<v Speaker 1>are decorations. You can kind of imagine it. And there's

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 1>also a strong female presence on the floor. And it's

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:14.200
<v Speaker 1>dude to Poncho Barnes because she hires out. She goes,

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:16.400
<v Speaker 1>she's a tomboy. She's like, we need some women in here, right,

0:28:16.520 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 1>So she hires hostesses to take care of the clientele.

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:22.119
<v Speaker 1>These hostesses would wait tables, they'd serve drinks, they'd entertain

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 1>all the pilots and the other Hollywood clientele. She also

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 1>had a legal liquor flown in to keep the party going.

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:29.680
<v Speaker 1>So She was like having a liquor flown in from Mexico.

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 1>And I was all well enjoyed and much like the hostesses,

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:35.600
<v Speaker 1>and but Poncho assisted. It was all on the up

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 1>and up. And I swear she once said, and I quote,

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 1>we're not responsible for the bustling and the hustling that

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 1>may go on here. Lots of people bustle and some hustle,

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 1>but that's their business and a very old one. Did

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 1>the hostesses have to wear outfits like sexy penguins. Sexy penguins,

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:57.560
<v Speaker 1>sexy pelicans? Where are you coming up? It was seaking

0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 1>like birds because in the air sick. See pelicans are

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 1>sexy to you, like big gold sexy seagulls. Sey seas

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 1>to talk about sexy after this, right, I don't want

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:15.160
<v Speaker 1>to talk about Ponto. Barnes again expands the resort. Things

0:29:15.160 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 1>are going well. The Booby prizes success. A booby is

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 1>the blue footed booby, So there you go, sexy boobies.

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 1>She regularly hires bands and artists from LA to come

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 1>out and play a ranches exactly just like guns and

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:36.720
<v Speaker 1>LA guns and with guns as. She also built a

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 1>stadium for a rodeo, a stadium yes, like not. And

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 1>this isn't something like fly by Night affair. This was

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 1>like with three quarter Mexican bulls. I'm talking like a

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 1>real rodeo, real stadium, officially sanctioned rodeo on the circuit. Wow, yeah, exactly. No.

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 1>I should also tell you Elizabeth much like you. She

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:58.680
<v Speaker 1>was a singer of popular standards. Yes, just much like

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 1>get me. She wrote a number of songs, she recorded

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 1>a few. She had a hit song called buy Your Side,

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 1>which was about her love of the Air Force and

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 1>the relationships she wrote. A love song to the Air

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Force was about their next door relationship. Exactly. It sold

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 1>a million digits. Yes, your units. She shifted a million

0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 1>fingers digits, big buckets. People are like, I'll give you

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>fifteen fingers for this forty pime how much for the boobies?

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:32.959
<v Speaker 1>So okay, buy your Side? Yes, by your Side. I'm

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to look that up. Yeah, it's a banger.

0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:37.240
<v Speaker 1>I learn it. You could probably do it at weddings,

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 1>probably generals, retirement parties. Probably so around the same time.

0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:45.440
<v Speaker 1>I just show up and I am dressed as a

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 1>sexy Pelican, and then I lay down my floormat of

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:53.120
<v Speaker 1>prosthetics and then I go and a one and a

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:59.240
<v Speaker 1>two runs for the door, performing next at slots. You

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 1>got to perform at Ponto Barnes's wedding. I probably should

0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>have did I I don't remember a whole lot. Well,

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 1>i'll read it to you. It sounds familiar. Year nineteen

0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 1>fifty two. Her it's her fourth wedding. None have lasted

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 1>very long, and this time she falls for a younger man,

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:16.240
<v Speaker 1>some one who she hopes can keep up with her.

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 1>So her husband. His name is Mac McKendry. He was

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:23.239
<v Speaker 1>thirty two. Thirty two, Yeah, fifty two. Good for her?

0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right. So she gets yourself from young meat and

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 1>then says, let's get married, Chuck yeager, you're going to

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 1>be there. He's like, you bet you. So he stands

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:34.080
<v Speaker 1>as her wedding attendant, the commanding Officer of Edwards Air

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Force based General Boyd. He gives her away six hundred

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:40.520
<v Speaker 1>and fifty guests chair on Ponto Barns fifty. It's a

0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:44.240
<v Speaker 1>super short ceremony. It's a Native American Blackfoot ceremony. She

0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 1>after the ceremony, she changes out of her wedding dress

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 1>and puts on a quote a pair of jodpurs a

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 1>blouse and white cowboy boots. Oh, just a sensible bout.

0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 1>The happy couples serve their wedding guests and I quote,

0:31:56.160 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 1>four whole roasted pigs, eighty eighty pounds of potatoes salad,

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:04.280
<v Speaker 1>sixteen gallons of jello, and a fifty pound wedding cake.

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:09.480
<v Speaker 1>So wait, pork potato salad and a fifty poundell. Well,

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of people, but dang, like you show

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 1>up and they're like, just so, Jello has been sitting

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 1>out in the sun and Jello. Wow. Well, things are

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 1>going well in fifty two. Everyone is happy. The music

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:23.959
<v Speaker 1>was a bouncing or hits were going The illegal Mexican

0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 1>liquors are flowing, the pilots in clientele. Everyone's enjoying themselves, hostesses,

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 1>they're having fun. The booby prizes are being given out right.

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:33.440
<v Speaker 1>But it should be no surprise to you nor I

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 1>that the decency police decided to step in and break

0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 1>up all the good times. The issue got there in

0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 1>the desert. Yeah, the issue wasn't the fight. It wasn't

0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 1>like a fight between drunken officers. It wasn't drunk pilots

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.520
<v Speaker 1>driving back to the base streaking across the desert in

0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:49.680
<v Speaker 1>their mid century steel sleds. Nope, that's not the issue.

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Wasn't the illegal Mexican liquor being flown over the border.

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:56.720
<v Speaker 1>The issue was the young women, the hostesses. Oh, the

0:32:56.800 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 1>sexy Pelican. Yeah, they ain't hurt nobody, but they were

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 1>the problem them. So the young women Ponto Barnes had

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 1>hired to play hostesses. They were mostly beautiful, vivacious people,

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 1>the kind of women who would like to hang out

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 1>with hard drinking, hard charging pilots, Hollywood types selected Crows

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:12.840
<v Speaker 1>and Ponto Barnes. She ran a tight ship. She had

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:15.560
<v Speaker 1>house rules for her the women. They were instructed to quote,

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:17.880
<v Speaker 1>never be vulgar, never to drink too much. In fact,

0:33:18.120 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 1>the full set of house rules was this, never spend

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:23.719
<v Speaker 1>an undue length of time with any one guest, circulate,

0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 1>be charming and pleasant to all guests. Don't just go

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 1>for the guy with the wavy hair. Don't be vulgar

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:32.240
<v Speaker 1>at any time. Don't sit on guest laps in public.

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>Don't go automobile riding or flying without permission. Never are

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 1>you allowed to accept money and remuneration For the more

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>intimate aspects of romance. Oh yes. So one of the

0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 1>hostess was a woman named Dallas Morley. She eventually became

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:48.720
<v Speaker 1>the head hostess. She cooked and bartended, and she could

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:53.640
<v Speaker 1>also play a mean hockey talk piano. Nice sound, now,

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Dallas Morley one set of Ponto Barnes quote. I got

0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:58.720
<v Speaker 1>along with Poncho because when she'd cuss me out, I'd

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 1>just cuss her right back and she'd laugh. But she

0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:04.560
<v Speaker 1>had most of the girls scared to death. Yeah, see

0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 1>the idea. Like I said, most of these women, they

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 1>were vivacious women. Some were like Dallas morally, they had

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:12.280
<v Speaker 1>strong independence streaks. Many of them were somewhat sexually liberated,

0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:14.799
<v Speaker 1>more sexually liberated than their times. They were sort of

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:17.279
<v Speaker 1>women like to sunbathe the naked, swim nude in the

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 1>hotel pool when no guests were around. And in the

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:23.320
<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifties this got lips a wagon right, so rumors

0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 1>were swirling. They took on a life for their own.

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Soon there was talk that the sex that they were

0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 1>sex workers, and that Poncho Barnes was the madam of

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:33.799
<v Speaker 1>this flyboy cat house team. Things a bit private. She

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 1>had restricted access. She had made it a members only club.

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 1>She said no enlisted men could go. Only officers. She

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:43.520
<v Speaker 1>had nine thousand person membership who had to personally know

0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:46.880
<v Speaker 1>her and she had to vouch for Wow. Yeah. And

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:49.720
<v Speaker 1>as for the rumors about it being a casual sex resort,

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:54.560
<v Speaker 1>my morally rigid yet albeit wildly racist Chuck Yeager said,

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Poncho's wasn't a cat house, but it wasn't a church either,

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:01.400
<v Speaker 1>So that gives you a little idea. Despite having the

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 1>reendorsement of respected aviation hero Chuck Yeager and the tacit

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:08.799
<v Speaker 1>approval of the top brass at the rock Dry Lake

0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Camp now Edwards Air Force Base, the good times had

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:13.840
<v Speaker 1>to come to an end because that's just what happens

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 1>to a a good time. So why as I told you

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:21.640
<v Speaker 1>the aforementioned decency police decency. Yeah, so after the short break, Elizabeth,

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 1>I will tell you how Poncho Barnes went to war

0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:48.319
<v Speaker 1>against the US Air Force and their decency pleasing. All right,

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:51.200
<v Speaker 1>so where are were? We just listen to some really

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 1>great ads. Yes they were so good. Huh oh right, No,

0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Antelope Valley, California, there's that too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, super Blooms. Yes,

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:01.920
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about Poncho Barnes. Yes, Okay, so the trouble

0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:05.080
<v Speaker 1>starts for my girl when the whispered rumors about her

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:09.399
<v Speaker 1>hostesses at the Happy Bottom Riding Club turn into an

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:12.920
<v Speaker 1>issue for the young and reputation obsessed air Force. We

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 1>can't have our fly boys doing this right now. Some

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:17.280
<v Speaker 1>say it was just an excuse to get the land

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 1>that was underneath Poncho Barnes's resort and private air That

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:23.240
<v Speaker 1>makes sense, right. So there was his cat, General Boyd.

0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 1>He was the head pauncho of the base. He was

0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:28.280
<v Speaker 1>the one who gave Poncho Barnes away at her wedding. Okay,

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:31.200
<v Speaker 1>totally tight with her. They would hug and embrace and everything. Right,

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:34.920
<v Speaker 1>he gets replaced by Johnny good Boy. This this the

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 1>General General J. Stanley. It was so excited, was like,

0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:43.840
<v Speaker 1>that's perfect. That's a perfect name for who he is.

0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 1>A tall drink of water and his name is Johnny

0:36:46.480 --> 0:36:49.799
<v Speaker 1>good Boy. Hey, General Johnny good Boy here. So General J.

0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:53.759
<v Speaker 1>Stanley Holtner, that's no fun Yeah, well exactly. He is

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 1>not a fun guy. He is what we in the

0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 1>good times industry call a kill joy. So when he

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:01.799
<v Speaker 1>heard about this bar where hostess has had fun with

0:37:01.840 --> 0:37:04.160
<v Speaker 1>his test pilots, he decided someone needs to put a

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 1>stop to this, and that's someone is J Stanley hole Toner. Well,

0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:11.279
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't seem like it was negatively impacting their performance, No,

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:13.400
<v Speaker 1>not at all. Nothing. It was, if anything, good for

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:17.440
<v Speaker 1>their performance. She's incentivizing their success with steak Dinners exactly

0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:20.440
<v Speaker 1>and Booby Price. And they're they're they're flying like they're stress.

0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:21.960
<v Speaker 1>They need to place to unwind the Blacks to be

0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:24.719
<v Speaker 1>able to be themselves. Let them be. But he's like,

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 1>no fun on my watch, no carousing, no sexy pool time,

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 1>none of it. So and since he's military General hole

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:35.000
<v Speaker 1>hole Toner, he can't come down on Pacho Barnes because

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 1>she's a private industry, right, So he's got to figure

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 1>out an angle. So he waits. There's a fight at

0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:42.759
<v Speaker 1>the bar. So he's like, oh, my pilots, this is

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 1>enough for him to step in. He goes, no, pilots,

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:48.399
<v Speaker 1>no military personnel can go to the Happy Bottom Riding Club.

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:51.160
<v Speaker 1>It is off limits for all base personnel. Huh, that's

0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:53.719
<v Speaker 1>pretty much gonna be the death sir, Yes, sir, yeah right,

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:56.360
<v Speaker 1>But this isn't enough for Captain Kildre. He's like, you

0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:59.480
<v Speaker 1>know what I should also call the FBI. So what

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 1>do you call the FBI? Elizabeth? Oh? Is that who's

0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 1>in charge of that? Good? Right? So he calls f

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:07.719
<v Speaker 1>JAG and he's like, yoh, but not literally, but he

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 1>sends like a like he sends like memos and letters.

0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:14.919
<v Speaker 1>Jaygger gets this. He's like, what the Happy Bottom Riding Club?

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Why don't I know about this? Exactly? So he's all, like,

0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:20.560
<v Speaker 1>I got to hear about these sealastious rumors. I love

0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:23.680
<v Speaker 1>selacious rumors to try and get a job as a hostess.

0:38:24.040 --> 0:38:26.720
<v Speaker 1>He Inclinde. There was a memo sad from future Chief

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Justice of the Supreme Court Warren Jay Burger to Jayagger Hoover.

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:34.040
<v Speaker 1>At the time, Burger was the Assistant Attorney General. In

0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:36.759
<v Speaker 1>his nineteen fifty three memo to Hoover, Burger writes that

0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:40.120
<v Speaker 1>the US Attorney General's Office will initiate a deep and

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:42.880
<v Speaker 1>wide investigation to answer the question of how happy the

0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Happy Bottom Riding Club is? Just how happy? And he

0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 1>quotes wants to know if miss Barnes was operating a

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:52.000
<v Speaker 1>disorderly house. So Jagger's like, yeah, get on it and

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:56.839
<v Speaker 1>give me all the details. So the picture the investigation

0:38:56.880 --> 0:38:59.880
<v Speaker 1>of Pacho Barnes kicks off and now, Elizabeth, I know

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:03.799
<v Speaker 1>you can imagine what this all leads to. It. Just

0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:06.319
<v Speaker 1>for kicks, I'd like you to close your eyes, yes,

0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 1>and picture it. Okay. It's August nineteen fifty three, Murrock

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Dry Lake, Annelipe Valley, California, three thirty pm. There's a

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:19.319
<v Speaker 1>wide blue sky above you, a slight breeze from the

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 1>northwest on a fresh air break. You've seated yourself outside

0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:25.240
<v Speaker 1>the private club just to enjoy the sights and sounds

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 1>of the desert vistas. It stretches off into the horizon.

0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 1>You've left your job behind in Hollywood. You were making

0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 1>lifts for short actors and you wanted a new start,

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:35.319
<v Speaker 1>so you headed out to the desert, where you've been

0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:37.680
<v Speaker 1>working as the head hostess at a small private club

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:40.279
<v Speaker 1>and airport. You've only worked at the Happy Bottom Riding

0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Club for the last few months, but you're loving the

0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:44.920
<v Speaker 1>vibe of this place. You love the women you work with,

0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 1>and you like the mercurial, hard cuss and hard drinking

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:50.399
<v Speaker 1>boss Poncho Barnes. For the first time in a long time,

0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:53.360
<v Speaker 1>you're happy at work. In the flight tests for the

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 1>day are done, so the skies above you right now

0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:57.240
<v Speaker 1>are quiet, but in the distance you spot a cloud

0:39:57.280 --> 0:39:59.600
<v Speaker 1>of dust approaching. It looks like a Ford Sedan. The

0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:01.919
<v Speaker 1>beige car up here's dust covered. Could be a Blue

0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:04.239
<v Speaker 1>Sedan for all you know. It's that dust cover. But

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:07.440
<v Speaker 1>you watch the fifty two FOURD approach. He grows louder

0:40:07.440 --> 0:40:10.359
<v Speaker 1>and louder as it grows closer and closer. Finally, sand

0:40:10.360 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 1>an pulls up just outside of the Happy Bottom Riding

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Club doors O. Two men in gray flannel suits step out.

0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:18.320
<v Speaker 1>They flash badges at you and identify themselves as FBI.

0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:21.160
<v Speaker 1>One of the agents asked the question he knows the

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:23.880
<v Speaker 1>answer to, He says, is this the Happy Bottom Riding Club.

0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Now you don't like to be asked a lot of questions,

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:28.600
<v Speaker 1>so you sasd the FBI agent. Of course, No, this

0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:32.560
<v Speaker 1>is the pushy Bottom Beach Club, Happy bottoms down the road,

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 1>so neither agent laughs. I'm not surprised. These are the

0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:40.400
<v Speaker 1>new IBM punch card agents. These are the humorless agents.

0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:43.279
<v Speaker 1>These are gone are the charming and daring spies of

0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:46.359
<v Speaker 1>the war years, as if they never really existed. What

0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:48.759
<v Speaker 1>you don't know is these are also really good at

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:51.440
<v Speaker 1>their job. Spies. Nineteen fifty three is a banner year

0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:55.319
<v Speaker 1>for the FBI. Jager Hoover has his bureau humming. They

0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:57.640
<v Speaker 1>stay busy hunting down fugitives and bagging names on the

0:40:57.719 --> 0:41:00.279
<v Speaker 1>FBI's Most Wanted liss. They've been catching two fugitive a

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:02.879
<v Speaker 1>month every month this entire year. It's one of their

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 1>record years. They catch twenty four felons this year. It

0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:08.120
<v Speaker 1>will be a record that will not be surpassed until

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:12.200
<v Speaker 1>the social upheaval of nineteen sixty eight. Now, how could

0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:14.640
<v Speaker 1>you know that these two gray flannel suit wearing paper

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:16.719
<v Speaker 1>cutouts are good at their job? Why would they look

0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:19.920
<v Speaker 1>like a joke to you? You're used to Flyboy, future astronauts,

0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:23.560
<v Speaker 1>aging test pilots. Who are these bozos? Yeah? The FBI

0:41:23.640 --> 0:41:27.200
<v Speaker 1>agent tells you we're gonna need to interrogate all the hostesses,

0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:30.839
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, on whose authority? You're like, US Constitution,

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:33.239
<v Speaker 1>But of course you know they mean Jagger Hoover, So

0:41:33.280 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 1>you're like, okay, whatever. You walk back to the hotel

0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:36.879
<v Speaker 1>rooms where all the hostess are saying, You're like, look,

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:38.719
<v Speaker 1>the fbis here. They're like, what do you mean? Some

0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:40.920
<v Speaker 1>of them they're naked, some are in silk robe, some

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:42.719
<v Speaker 1>are in bathing suits. You're like, girls, you gotta get

0:41:42.719 --> 0:41:45.080
<v Speaker 1>together yourself together. You gotta come into the bar and

0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 1>talk to them stiff bas like, look, it's not a request.

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:50.279
<v Speaker 1>They're here, like okay. So they go in and now

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Poncho Barnes, she's gone right now, she's away getting hogs

0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:55.560
<v Speaker 1>for a big pig rows. So you're in charge, and

0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:58.160
<v Speaker 1>you've learned from the House un American Activities Commission in

0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:00.239
<v Speaker 1>the Red Scared you saw in Hollywood, don't lie to

0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:02.120
<v Speaker 1>the FBI? Right? Do you tell the girls that? And

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:04.120
<v Speaker 1>so then you send them in to go get grilled

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:06.080
<v Speaker 1>by the FBI agents. Want at a time. They go

0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:08.960
<v Speaker 1>and sit down the FBI agents and you're watching them agonizing,

0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:11.879
<v Speaker 1>hoping that they're doing okay. Then once they're excused to leave,

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:13.239
<v Speaker 1>you pull them aside and you go, what did they

0:42:13.280 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 1>ask you? Yeah? And then the girls like, oh, they

0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:16.880
<v Speaker 1>ask any of these weird questions like what Well, like

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:20.520
<v Speaker 1>they're like, have you ever been in the white slave trade?

0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Slave trade? Spreading? They're like, well, they're like, also, if

0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:27.239
<v Speaker 1>there is there any gambling going on? Is there are

0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:29.520
<v Speaker 1>there like Mexicans being flown in and They're like, what

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:32.120
<v Speaker 1>are you talking about? Yees Mexicans and dope are they

0:42:32.200 --> 0:42:34.600
<v Speaker 1>flying that in? People are like, I don't know what

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:37.359
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about. So when they're done, the hostesses are

0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:39.040
<v Speaker 1>barely able to get the place set up in time

0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:41.640
<v Speaker 1>for the evening crowd. You secretly are waiting for the

0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:43.680
<v Speaker 1>sheriff to show up that night and rescue all and

0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:45.719
<v Speaker 1>drag you off the sex workers. They don't come, nor

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:48.040
<v Speaker 1>do his deputies. Despite of all this talk of the

0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:50.759
<v Speaker 1>white slave trade and smuggling Mexicans into the country, the

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:54.239
<v Speaker 1>FBI agents conclude their investigation. They find no evidence of

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:57.840
<v Speaker 1>any crimes. No one will say anything against Poncho Barnes,

0:42:57.840 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 1>so you are free to continue your leisure and happiness

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:05.719
<v Speaker 1>with all your friends. Elizabeth. Yeah, you might think having

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:07.759
<v Speaker 1>a legal tussle with the FBI, well, that couldn't get

0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:10.360
<v Speaker 1>any worse than that for Poncho Barnes. And you'd be

0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:13.160
<v Speaker 1>wrong because the Air Force is like, that's not damn it.

0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:16.520
<v Speaker 1>I sick Jagger Hoover's boys on why didn't that work? Well,

0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I guess we're gonna have to go one step beyond that,

0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:22.920
<v Speaker 1>So they go up to eminent domain. Yeah, because Poncho

0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Barnes has been spinning all of this to her benefit.

0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:28.280
<v Speaker 1>She'd been talking about, you know, let the rumors persist,

0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:30.839
<v Speaker 1>she decided. Once the FBI declared I'm fine, She's like, yeah,

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:32.840
<v Speaker 1>let them go tell them we're all sex workers. I

0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:35.560
<v Speaker 1>don't care anymore. So, you know, basically like P. T.

0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:38.399
<v Speaker 1>Barnum and Kanye West, she decided, Look, there's no such

0:43:38.400 --> 0:43:41.640
<v Speaker 1>thing as bad blab. So now her friend Chuck Yeager,

0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:44.000
<v Speaker 1>he used to say, Poncho Barnes quote for rumor enhance

0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:46.600
<v Speaker 1>her personality. She didn't dispute it if it didn't have

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:48.440
<v Speaker 1>to be true or not true. But that's the way

0:43:48.480 --> 0:43:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Poncho was. She wasn't dumb. She was a very smart

0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:53.840
<v Speaker 1>old gal. So now this smart old gal has to

0:43:53.840 --> 0:43:56.360
<v Speaker 1>deal with the US Air Force bringing full power that

0:43:56.400 --> 0:43:59.440
<v Speaker 1>they can against her during the Cold War, so they

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 1>have all sorts of powers. They use emminite domain cut

0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:06.759
<v Speaker 1>to Captain Kiljoy jer Odin rolled Hoole Toner squares up

0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:09.000
<v Speaker 1>for a round two. He decides he's gonna make public

0:44:09.120 --> 0:44:11.920
<v Speaker 1>his oh, I mean, the Air Force's plans to seize

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:14.640
<v Speaker 1>all the land underneath the Happy Bottom Riding Club. He

0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:16.279
<v Speaker 1>lets it be known that they're gonna put in a

0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:19.640
<v Speaker 1>new twenty two mile super runway complex for the a

0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:22.440
<v Speaker 1>new atomic powered airplanes the Air Force has on the

0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:25.120
<v Speaker 1>drawing board. I'm gonna say that one more time. Atomic

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:29.040
<v Speaker 1>powered airplanes, Elizabeth, Like, automic powered subs are one thing,

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:32.640
<v Speaker 1>but nuclear powered aircraft that's terrified crash. You have an

0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:35.759
<v Speaker 1>aerogical disaster, like where that plane crashes. The Air Force

0:44:35.800 --> 0:44:37.239
<v Speaker 1>took him a little while. They're like, you know what,

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:39.680
<v Speaker 1>we're probably not gonna do. Maybe not such a good idea,

0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:42.520
<v Speaker 1>but anyway, it doesn't matter. Captain Killjoys like, yeah, runways,

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:45.160
<v Speaker 1>atomic plane. So he's like shaking this at her, and

0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:47.680
<v Speaker 1>so Pancho Barnes decides, you know what, sue you sue them,

0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:50.279
<v Speaker 1>Sue everybody. She goes after the Air Force, and she

0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:53.279
<v Speaker 1>goes into court to quote roused out the scoundrels and

0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:56.440
<v Speaker 1>the government who could perpetrate such an injustice? Right, she

0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:59.960
<v Speaker 1>sounds like Mark Twain. So she acts as her own attorney.

0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Never a good move, but it works out for her.

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<v Speaker 1>She's the rare right every single time. Well, the LA

0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:09.960
<v Speaker 1>newspapers they're siding with her. She's given them good press coverage,

0:45:09.960 --> 0:45:12.440
<v Speaker 1>great quotes to fight. It is not brief, it lasts

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:14.759
<v Speaker 1>a long time. But the people and the papers are

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<v Speaker 1>on her side. The Air Force because it's once again

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:19.640
<v Speaker 1>told the early days of the Cold War, and much

0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:21.880
<v Speaker 1>like the FBI, they're pretty much feeling themselves. They just

0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:24.880
<v Speaker 1>seize the land anyway, eminent domain. Yeah, and they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what we're into, like killing joy, making things

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<v Speaker 1>less sexy, no fun. We love that. It's the fifties.

0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:32.480
<v Speaker 1>What do you want from us? You're like, dude, you

0:45:32.560 --> 0:45:34.640
<v Speaker 1>want a world war for this? Like what the hell?

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, Poncho Barnes, living spirit of early aviation, reckless

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<v Speaker 1>and joyful days are pretty much over. She's now fighting

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<v Speaker 1>the US Air Force in court all the time. It

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<v Speaker 1>gets mad, costly, but she won't give up. She's like

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<v Speaker 1>the Happy Bottom Riding Club deserves a fight. So things though,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't take a fatal turn, because in November nineteen fifty three,

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<v Speaker 1>there's an explosion inside the dance hall. Fire tears to

0:45:56.920 --> 0:45:59.800
<v Speaker 1>the resort. It's mostly wood, it's in the desert. Firefighters

0:45:59.840 --> 0:46:02.720
<v Speaker 1>can't get there in time. The Happy Bottom Riding Club

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<v Speaker 1>burns to the ground. That is suspicious. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of accusations of arson. Sure, I accuse them of

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<v Speaker 1>hay duration in the dancery like Mary jay BlimE would not.

0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:17.480
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, no one gets got no one gets arrested

0:46:17.480 --> 0:46:20.040
<v Speaker 1>for the fire. Mary Jabies would also be upset about that, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>But Poncho Barnes, you know, as I said, she's like,

0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:24.440
<v Speaker 1>this is arson, but there's nothing she can do about that.

0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 1>People there who were there that night of the fire, though,

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<v Speaker 1>they risked their lives to run in over and over

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<v Speaker 1>again to save all the priceless a replaceable memorabilia. You

0:46:36.760 --> 0:46:41.480
<v Speaker 1>love that movie. Back to so Ponto Barnes, she'd kept

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<v Speaker 1>a scrapbook of her life in the clouds. One of

0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:46.720
<v Speaker 1>her her friends, like the coworkers, the one of the hostesses.

0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:48.440
<v Speaker 1>They managed to get in and get the scrapbook and

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<v Speaker 1>save it. So that's like the big thing that she's

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<v Speaker 1>most happy about. And in her ongoing battle to save

0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:55.799
<v Speaker 1>her land after it's burned down, the Air Force has

0:46:55.800 --> 0:46:58.359
<v Speaker 1>already seized the land underneath it. She then pretty much

0:46:58.400 --> 0:47:00.279
<v Speaker 1>has to go back into court and remind the Air

0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Force that her grandfather Thaddius Lowe founded the US Air Force,

0:47:03.600 --> 0:47:05.560
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, oh, that's right, she's in the days

0:47:06.800 --> 0:47:11.200
<v Speaker 1>like yeah, that's true, he made you, and they're like okay, fine,

0:47:11.320 --> 0:47:13.720
<v Speaker 1>and so she wins her legal battle. The Air Force

0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:15.920
<v Speaker 1>backs off. They give her four hundred thousand dollars for

0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:18.680
<v Speaker 1>her land, and they also then clear her name, and

0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:20.839
<v Speaker 1>she insists they cleared the names of reputations of all

0:47:20.840 --> 0:47:23.920
<v Speaker 1>the women who they've besmirched as hostess, which, yeah, I

0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:26.160
<v Speaker 1>thought you'd like that. Yeah. So the Air Force later

0:47:26.239 --> 0:47:29.120
<v Speaker 1>then scraps its plans for its new super runway complex

0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:31.640
<v Speaker 1>and the runways never get built. All that fight for nothing.

0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:35.279
<v Speaker 1>No atomic planes ever hit the air. In her retiring years, though,

0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Ponto Barnes begins to turn her that scrap book that

0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:39.960
<v Speaker 1>was saved into an autobiography, and she also, I thought

0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:43.439
<v Speaker 1>you'd like this, spend her time breeding Yorkshire terriers. Like that,

0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:46.560
<v Speaker 1>She gets back to her animal lover ways full circle,

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<v Speaker 1>and in nineteen seventy one, one of her friends, a

0:47:48.480 --> 0:47:51.560
<v Speaker 1>former test pilot from the Murrock Dry Lake Days, invites

0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:54.680
<v Speaker 1>her to Edwards Air Force Base to celebrate her seventieth birthday.

0:47:54.800 --> 0:47:59.720
<v Speaker 1>That friend was friend of the show buzz Aldron. Oh okay,

0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:02.040
<v Speaker 1>And now each year the Air Force sets aside one

0:48:02.080 --> 0:48:05.320
<v Speaker 1>calendar day to celebrate her. Fittingly, it's called Poncho Barnes Day,

0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:07.359
<v Speaker 1>and it's kind of like a small maya culpa from

0:48:07.360 --> 0:48:09.799
<v Speaker 1>the Air Force, like, yeah, we totally jacked up on

0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:11.640
<v Speaker 1>that one. And it ends up though, in a nice

0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:13.319
<v Speaker 1>little turn of events, at the end of the night

0:48:13.320 --> 0:48:16.120
<v Speaker 1>there's an adult's only portion of the evening they brought

0:48:16.120 --> 0:48:19.760
<v Speaker 1>back to sexy. So Ponto Barnes once said, and I quote,

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<v Speaker 1>the most important thing is to be yourself. So don't

0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:25.040
<v Speaker 1>even don't even try to be like someone else, because

0:48:25.239 --> 0:48:28.600
<v Speaker 1>we've seen that already. Oh I like that a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>So Elizabeth, I got to ask you, since you'll never

0:48:30.719 --> 0:48:34.000
<v Speaker 1>ask me, what's our ridiculous takeaway? Here? My ridiculous takeaway

0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:38.440
<v Speaker 1>is whatever, you're ridiculous. No. I love the dynamic nature

0:48:38.520 --> 0:48:41.560
<v Speaker 1>of her life, all the different elements of it, but

0:48:41.640 --> 0:48:44.359
<v Speaker 1>also the fact that she, you know, went toe to

0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:47.399
<v Speaker 1>toe with some serious dude Jagger Hoover, US Air Force,

0:48:47.520 --> 0:48:52.120
<v Speaker 1>the Mexican authorities, and the revolution didn't back down exactly. Zaren,

0:48:52.560 --> 0:48:56.240
<v Speaker 1>what's your ridiculous takeaway? We said that again, Zaren, what's

0:48:56.360 --> 0:49:00.520
<v Speaker 1>your ridiculous takace sounds nice? Doesn't sound good? Ever? Heard that,

0:49:00.719 --> 0:49:05.520
<v Speaker 1>thank you for asking. Mine is if someone isn't hurting

0:49:05.520 --> 0:49:08.239
<v Speaker 1>anyone and they're just being sexy or whatever they're doing,

0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:12.439
<v Speaker 1>let people be mind your own decency. Don't worry about

0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:14.960
<v Speaker 1>my decency. My decency is between me and God and

0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:17.560
<v Speaker 1>the devil or whoever I believe in. But you know, look, look,

0:49:17.640 --> 0:49:20.160
<v Speaker 1>some women know some people they want to get naked

0:49:20.160 --> 0:49:23.319
<v Speaker 1>into pool at them. Who cares. We all need all

0:49:23.360 --> 0:49:26.200
<v Speaker 1>the sexy we can get on this planet. We'll think

0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:29.840
<v Speaker 1>about it too. The amount of man hours and money

0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:36.839
<v Speaker 1>and resources spent to fight sexy pool time ridiculous hours.

0:49:36.840 --> 0:49:38.360
<v Speaker 1>I think there are a lot of other things you

0:49:38.360 --> 0:49:41.160
<v Speaker 1>could be doing. And it's like those pilots needed that.

0:49:41.320 --> 0:49:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, not just the sexy it's but all of it.

0:49:42.960 --> 0:49:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Being able to cut loose and just be themselves and

0:49:44.960 --> 0:49:46.440
<v Speaker 1>out in the desert. It's not like, oh, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to write about any specific subculture exactly, very specific, you know,

0:49:52.400 --> 0:49:56.560
<v Speaker 1>lifestyle and mindset for we need to make room for It's.

0:49:56.600 --> 0:49:58.719
<v Speaker 1>I always say, if you're gonna make a plan in

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<v Speaker 1>the future, you need the a little space for crime

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<v Speaker 1>because it's going to be there. Yeah, surely you're not

0:50:04.000 --> 0:50:06.279
<v Speaker 1>going to get rid of crime. You can talk about

0:50:06.320 --> 0:50:08.600
<v Speaker 1>what crimes occur, you can talk about which crimes you allow,

0:50:08.680 --> 0:50:11.680
<v Speaker 1>but there's going to be somebody who breaks. The question

0:50:11.920 --> 0:50:16.879
<v Speaker 1>is just like debauchery, exactly is this really a crime?

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't sound like those women were exploited working there? What

0:50:20.239 --> 0:50:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I can tell? What I could tell, they were all

0:50:22.040 --> 0:50:25.319
<v Speaker 1>willingly being there and there wasn't any active prostitution. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe some of them got a little sideways and did

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<v Speaker 1>some hot side picking up handsome fly boys. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>blame them. Yeah, the ones with the wavey here, that's right,

0:50:32.480 --> 0:50:34.600
<v Speaker 1>the ones with like they're bald on the top and

0:50:34.680 --> 0:50:40.719
<v Speaker 1>just the edges, a very specific one like Ben Franklin.

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<v Speaker 1>He liked air bats, so I could see them. There

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<v Speaker 1>you go. That's all. It's all there, All of the

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<v Speaker 1>evidence is there. Well, that's all I got for you today, Elizabeth. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty good. Thank you. Well, you know, well, you

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