WEBVTT - THIS PODCAST IS HOSTED BY A GECKO 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.360 Hello, folks, This is Lyle here. I just wanted to 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:07.360 drop in at the beginning of the podcast because so, 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:13.200 as you guys know, this podcast is basically audio highlights 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:17.680 from a twitch stream that I do every Monday, Wednesday 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:21.200 and Friday at nine pm Eastern Standard time on twitch 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:26.240 dot tv slash Lyle forever. And this podcast has calls 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:31.920 sort of Frankenstein's together from three different streams, but two 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:37.600 of the streams are from pre recorded streams, if that 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:42.919 makes any sense. They're like I basically recorded them offline 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:48.479 and then streamed them later because I was busy on 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:51.440 the road doing some stuff and I couldn't stream. But anyway, 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:54.640 I know it's complicated. All I wanted to do was 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:57.640 come on here at the beginning of this podcast. I'll 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:00.560 let you guys know that throughout this post podcast. If 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:04.000 you ever hear me say mention anything about like, oh 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:07.679 this is being pre recorded, or oh this will air 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:12.440 at some point later, stuff that's just making no sense. 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:16.120 This is just me right here letting you know, just 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:21.400 ignore it. But regardless, ignoring that, this is still a 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:25.600 great episode of lots of good calls. It was interesting 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:29.319 to record some of these calls with no live chat 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:31.320 going on, because in a weird way, it makes it 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:34.080 feel more intimate, you know. I mean, at the end 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:36.520 of the day, this is a podcast and it's recorded anyway, 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:41.240 It's not like the live stream. So yeah, does anyone 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:43.959 care about this? Should I just get into the podcast? 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:46.280 Should we just get into it? This is a good one. 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:49.360 Take a listen. Thanks for listening to the pod. I 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:51.760 appreciate you guys very much. By the way, if you 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:58.480 have any thoughts about the podcast, any comments, any questions, 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:03.280 any concerns, I love hearing that stuff. I'm always neurotic 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:06.400 and in my head about this podcast version because it's 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:09.080 not like the Twitch version where it's live and I 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:13.640 can sort of get that live feedback from people. So please, 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:20.000 listeners of the Therapy Gecko podcast. If you have any comments, questions, concerns, feedback, 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:24.880 whatever it is, please send me an email an email 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:31.520 at Lyle forever and Ever at gmail dot com. That's 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:35.920 Lyle forever and Ever at gmail dot com. L Y 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:39.760 L E f O R e v e r A 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:43.480 N D e v e r at gmail dot com. 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:47.400 I would love to hear from you anyway, enough of this, 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:52.000 enough of me. Sorry, If you know none of this 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:54.480 makes any fucking sense. Let's get into the thing. 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:59.240 Weekend goes on the line, taking your phone calls every 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:04.680 nine everything. Kid goes to teaching you. 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:13.160 All from Norah. 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:17.520 Wait, Nora, we just spoke before, didn't we? 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:21.639 Oh my god? Hi, No, we've never spoken. I've been 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:25.519 calling for hours, like the whole time. 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:29.000 Interesting, we've ever spoke. I feel like I talked to 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:31.240 a Nora recently. Don't know. Maybe Norah is becoming a 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:33.560 more popular name. Do you know a lot of other Noras? 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:37.040 I do not, So it's up Norah tell me everything. 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:38.880 Why is this insane? 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:43.960 I'm a huge fan, and I'm very nervous right now. 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:46.760 I appreciate that I don't be nervous. Look, it's just 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.440 you and me, and there's no chat right now. I'm 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:51.960 not live. I'm sitting in my chair where I normally 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.720 sit for the stream, and I'm staring into the camera 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:56.880 I normally stare at but there is I'm not live. 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:58.720 I'm putting this one in the can for later. 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:03.400 Does it weird to be in the gek costume but 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:05.160 no one's watching? 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:09.800 You know? It felt weird at first, but now that 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:11.720 I've now that I've gotten into it it really it 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:17.080 kind of feels exactly the same because it was because 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:21.039 I I interact with I interact with chat sort of 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:23.719 minimally while I'm on the phone with someone. Most of 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:25.520 it is interrect me interact with the person I'm on 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:29.200 the phone with, and that element has has remained constant. 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:31.279 So well, that's good. 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.080 I appreciate having your attention. 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:37.840 That is meaningful, of course, of course, So what can 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:38.680 I do for you? Nora? 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:44.120 Oh god, I I don't know. I really didn't think 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:48.919 this was like my I've called like two hundred times. 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:52.240 This was my my last ditch effort, and I really 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:54.560 was not prepared for you to answer the phone. 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.440 That's okay. I wasn't really prepared to talk to you either. 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:03.000 So is there like a question tonight that you're asking everybody? 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:06.400 No, not really, I didn't think about that, that this 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:10.040 this that far in advance. I'm kind of just talking 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.919 to people on the phone about whatever. I don't know. 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:14.680 I mean, you said no, you said you're a fan. 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:16.000 I mean, what do you think of the format? Do 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:16.560 you think? It's? 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:16.680 Like? 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:20.000 Sometimes I'm like how long can I really keep doing 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:20.320 this for? 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:20.800 You? 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:21.080 Know what? 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:21.320 I mean? 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:25.839 Like, how I you know, well, that parts up to you, 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:30.039 like if it, if it, if it is, what's the 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:33.320 word I'm looking for? Not sustainable? I mean, yeah, sustainability 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:39.839 is important, sure, but if you feel like it's fulfilling 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:43.039 for you, I would just say do it until it's not. 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:47.159 I like that. I like that. No, No, Nora, what 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:49.400 do you do? What's your life? 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:53.080 So? I just graduated a couple of months. 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:56.359 Ago high school or college college. 0:05:56.560 --> 0:06:02.120 Nice and mhm, to keep it vague. 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:05.440 I now work at a. 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:12.960 It's it's well, it's a facility that helps people get 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:14.159 off of drugs. 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:17.000 So yeah, that's that's. 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:20.000 What I do now, like a rehabilitation center. 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:26.800 Yeah, and we incorporate medication assisted treatment, so things like 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:32.560 suboxin big big words, but it's just. 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:32.920 What is. 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:35.320 Suboxen? 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:36.680 Oh gosh. 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:45.360 It's an opioid blocker essentially, and so it helps people 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:52.480 with symptoms of withdrawal. And it also will if someone 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:54.800 were to use while they were on sibox and they 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:57.360 wouldn't feel the effects of the drug that they're taking, 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:03.159 and so it's you know, easier to to stop taking 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:05.400 the drugs. It helps a lot with withdrawal symptoms, that's 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:06.160 the biggest part. 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:14.120 And so was this I was working at a rehab facility. 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:16.840 Something you always wanted to do? Was that your goal? 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:23.480 Kind of I've always had I've always had a desire 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:27.360 to work in uh, you know, like addiction treatment and 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.400 stuff that. But I didn't think I could do it 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:31.920 for a while. I didn't think I had it in me. 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:35.760 But when you say you didn't think it had you 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:39.560 had it in you, like, do you mean like the 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:45.600 ability to withstand being around, you know, sort of a 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:49.600 depressing environment or these skills to do the job, Like 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:50.960 what do you mean by it? 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:58.320 The first thing you said? Definitely, I I didn't think 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:02.400 that I would be able to handle. I think I 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:04.400 really didn't think that I would be able to handle 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:09.440 the time when you can't reach somebody, because not everybody. 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:10.720 It doesn't work out for everybody. 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:11.680 I mean, people. 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:17.880 Stop coming in for their appointments or you know, relapse 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:19.800 is pretty common and a lot like a lot of 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:22.480 times people can get over that hurle, but sometimes people can't. 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:26.080 And I thought that that would affect me too much 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:29.880 and that I wouldn't do well if that happened. 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:35.720 But you know, do you consider yourself optimistic? 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:40.320 Ooh not really? 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:43.400 Definitely not for myself maybe for other people, like I 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:48.040 believe in, I am endlessly optimistic for other people, but 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:50.600 I am very not for myself. 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:53.600 Why do you think that is? 0:08:54.920 --> 0:09:04.559 Oh gosh, you know, I don't know. I have very 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:05.520 low self esteem. 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:06.760 That could be it. 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:09.480 Self forth. 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:16.440 The reason I'm asking is because you know, this thing 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:19.560 of not feeling like you can handle it when you 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:26.880 try to reach someone and it doesn't work out. You know, 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:30.160 I was wondering if maybe you were a typically optimistic 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:31.680 Well you said, well, you said you are. You said 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:35.600 you are optimistic for other people, And I'm wondering if 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:40.920 these these times in which you see people not being 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:46.080 able to be reached chips away at that at that optimism. 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:50.880 It definitely does. I mean it changes kind of the 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:56.800 way that I see like the the the world. Like 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:01.480 you know, I majored in social work and so you see, 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:05.120 really this past year, I feel like I have seen 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:08.480 and I think this was kind of like the veil 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:11.000 was pulled back for a lot of people this past year. 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:16.400 But in some of my classes, I'm just learning about 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:22.320 these systems that it feels like they were never meant 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:26.040 to actually work, and it just keeps people, you know, 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:31.040 unstable and poor and addicted and all of these different things, 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:33.880 and it has just been I feel like that was 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:36.120 a reckoning that a lot of people had this past year. 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:39.199 And I've i've you know, had these thoughts for quite 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:39.720 some time. 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:43.600 But you know, but when you say the system, do 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:47.400 you mean sort of a overall government system or do 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:49.840 you mean the system of the of the rehab. 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:52.880 Center that you work in, like an overall system. 0:10:53.120 --> 0:11:00.400 I like my job, and you know, it is a company, 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:05.520 and so they're partially in it for financial reasons, but 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:08.320 I do think that I'm sorry, there's a siren going around. 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:08.880 My apartment right now. 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:14.440 Hold on a minute. They are a company, but I 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.679 do think that most of the people that work there 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:22.760 have a genuine interest in like sustained in long term 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:24.079 recovery and sobriety. 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:30.760 Mmm, I ask you, so, Okay, So when you think 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:35.760 about how when you have these epiphanies like how you're 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:42.839 describing them, that the systems in place, uh are meant 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:45.920 not to work? I mean, how does that make you feel? 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:47.880 Does that because because you could look at you because 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:49.600 you look, you could look at that two different ways. 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:54.000 You could look at that two different ways. Yeah, you 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:55.959 could look at that. You could be like, the systems 0:11:56.640 --> 0:12:02.520 are broken, they will stay forever broken, life sucks. Fuck it. 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:08.920 Or you could feel sort of, you know, inspired, systems 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:12.480 are broken, Let's do our best to fect them. You know, 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:13.560 you could do you think. 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:18.959 That you have the power to make a change at 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:19.560 that level? 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:23.240 You know, my, my, you know, I know we have 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:25.360 we We're not really talking about anything super specific here, 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:32.680 but sort of a general thing. I believe I'm sort 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:37.120 of individualistic, and I believe that you, as an individual, 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:43.160 are presented every day with opportunities to help out. I mean, no, 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:45.720 you're not gonna no, you're not going to solve poverty 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:52.520 alone by yourself, but fuck, I mean there's a billion 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:55.600 ways that you as an individual can help out on 0:12:55.640 --> 0:13:00.400 a small scale, and the big scale is just thous 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:03.640 and thousands of bricks of the small scale. So I mean, 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:05.280 whatever you can do to help out in your own 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:05.840 little way. 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:09.600 And I do believe that. 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:13.720 I do believe that, you know, making a difference however 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:17.600 you can is meaningful. It's just sometimes, you know, it 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:22.640 gets overwhelming to think about the sheer, like the scale 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:24.400 of problems. 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:24.760 That people face. 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:29.440 You know what, I always got to think about this 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:35.560 with the Internet is that this might sound harsh, but 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:43.320 so our brain there's no our brains were not fucking wired. 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:49.520 Oh for every single problem to be our problem. 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:55.640 I could not agree with you more. I think about 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:58.440 this all the time. When I think about the scale 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:01.920 of problems that people or face with, I then think about, 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:04.640 nobody was ever meant. 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:06.760 To be like this aware. 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:11.640 No, because back before Twitter, if there was because just 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:14.320 like back before the Internet, you know, and like the 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:19.760 eighteen hundreds, if a fire destroyed all of Australia, I mean, 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:23.640 we just wouldn't fucking we wouldn't even know exactly, you know, 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:30.320 And it's like, yeah, I mean we wouldn't even know. 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:34.720 So I mean it's good. It's good that we're aware 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:36.560 of these problems. I'm not saying it's a bad thing. 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:42.040 But at the end of the day, you can't. You can't. 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:46.640 You just physically cannot make every single problem that exists 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:51.080 your problem, you know. I mean, pick pick a thing 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:55.960 that's important to you one, pick one thing that's very 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:58.720 important to you, and you know, double down on that. 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:01.560 You know, if you try to solve every single problem 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:04.080 going on in the world, or you try to think 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:06.080 your way through it. I mean you're gonna go insane. 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:10.080 Oh yeah, you're gonna wind up the hospital if you 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:10.800 try to do that. 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:15.680 What's what's something that it's like one thing? What do okay? 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:16.640 If you have to do that, if you have to 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:19.080 pick your main thing, what is it? 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:25.040 Oh gosh, see that's hard. 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:29.520 Hmhmm. 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:34.920 You know I have I mean I've I've always been 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:43.280 had a keen interest in people being in recovery from 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:45.320 drugs and alcohol. So I mean that's what I'm doing 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:45.680 right now. 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:50.680 Well, well, golly g you're in a perfect you're in 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:55.440 a perfect place, then aren't you working at uh that center. 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.960 That doesn't sometimes doesn't feel perfect, But I'm doing it 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:03.320 so well. 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:06.560 Look, Norah, I'm glad you got a thing that you 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:12.960 care about here. Yeah, don't don't try to solve all 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:16.160 the world's problems at once. You'll you'll go nuts. You know. 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:19.720 I'll do my best, you too, Gek take it easy? 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:21.880 Do you prefer Gek or Lyle? 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:25.160 Norah? You can call me whatever you want. I like Lyle, 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:27.880 I like Ghak. I'll do it all. Do we can do? 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:29.680 We can do? What do you like? Do you like 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:31.120 Nora or Ghek or Lyle. 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:36.200 I would love to be called Lyle, to be honest. 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:39.640 Well, Lyle, there is a pleasure talking to you, Lyle. 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.240 It was a pleasure talking to you. I'm so amazed 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:45.200 that this has happened. I'm probably going to think about 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:46.400 this for the next three. 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:50.360 Days, I hope. I hope the thoughts are good. 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:52.360 Oh yeah, all good, all good. 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:55.120 Thoughts, wonderful. Take care, Nora, thank. 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.640 You, take care, have a good night. 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:03.600 That's a long one. What's up, Nora? Shout out to Nora. 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.240 I hope I don't sound too harsh when I say 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:14.720 that he's doing a good thing. I do. I believe. Look, 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:18.879 I believe in the small victories, because what are the 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:21.200 big victories. But just you know, a bunch of small ones. 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:24.280 Pick up a fucking piece of trash that you see 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:29.520 on the floor. Bam if ever, if, if, if, if 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:31.280 we all picked up one piece of trash, it's seven 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:33.560 billion pizzas of trash. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:43.320 It's not the it won't end trash, but it's pretty good. Alexander, Alexander, Yes, sir, 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:44.440 what's up? Man? 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:46.080 Hey man, how you doing. 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:48.240 Have we ever spoken before, Alexander? 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:50.880 We have never spoken before now and I can't believe 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:52.440 it got through you. That's what's a trip. 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:54.760 So are we doing, Alexander, tell me everything? 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:56.240 I'm good man. 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:59.560 I got two questions. Actually I don't know which one 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:02.080 is more import but I figured out as them both. Uh, 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:05.760 my roommate is insane, but she wants to be a therapist, 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:07.600 and I think that's a bad idea. I just don't 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:08.280 know how to tell her. 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:16.120 Interesting when you when you would you tell me when 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:16.919 you'm sorry? 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:19.439 Did you say I said, she's a lovely person. I 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:21.520 just don't know if she's really in the position to 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:23.320 be helping other people exactly. 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:28.240 When when you say she's insane, do you mean likes 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:32.399 like she's been like diagnosed with like a like a 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:33.600 mental illness. 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:38.639 No, she just does crazy things that probably wouldn't be 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:43.639 advisable to most. And you know, like I said, awesome person, 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:45.560 just a little wacky. 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:49.320 Well, it's interesting you said that because I've talked. I 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:53.199 remember I had a therapist to call in to me 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:58.320 one time and I asked them. I was like, is 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:02.560 it typical that people with their own, you know, mental 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:08.240 issues become uh, mental health care providers? And she told 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:10.680 me it is typical. It makes sense because I almost 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:14.720 feel like if you've, if you have dealt with the 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:19.400 same problems that the people that you're helping are dealing with, 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:24.080 it gives you, you know, a greater amount of empathy. 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:25.920 Would I mean, do you not agree? 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:28.520 I think I think that's a good point. But don't 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:33.560 you think it might also lead people to make unadvisable 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:36.359 decisions too? I mean, you know, I don't know. Maybe 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:39.120 that was like the wrong Wader approach, saying she's insane 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:43.040 she's Maybe she's not insane, she's just uh, she's got. 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:43.480 Her own issues. 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:45.439 And I guess maybe you're working working it out with 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:47.000 other people, maybe it's gonna help her too. 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:47.479 I don't know. 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:52.240 Well, here's another thing. Everyone has issues. You know, everyone 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:55.840 has issues, whether you're a therapist or or not. That 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:57.960 I mean, I I don't like, I don't want to 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:01.560 believe it, but even a cert probably has a little 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:04.520 bit of imposter syndrome. I don't want the imposter syndrome surgeon, 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:10.440 but they but that exists. There's there is a surgeon 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:15.640 who when he opens people up, maybe maybe he's confident. 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:17.919 Ninety nine percent of the time, no one's confident. One 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:20.000 hundred percent of the time, but miss guy's confident nine 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:22.040 nine percent of the time, and he goes, I fucking hope 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:24.560 this goes well. Everyone has their thing, even if they're 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:29.800 a you know, a professional one hundred percent. Not to 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:33.879 say it's unprofessional to have, you know, problems, but okay, 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:35.960 so have you so this, I mean, this is a 0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:38.679 concern of yours. It sounds like have you spoken, like, 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:41.680 have you had a conversation with her about this? 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:41.840 Like? 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:42.800 How did that go? 0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:46.880 I'm just a little afraid she's wasting her time, that's all. 0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:50.240 It's not that I don't think that she's maybe even 0:20:50.280 --> 0:20:52.920 suited to do it. It's just that I just don't 0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:55.920 think she I think she has better strengths in other 0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:59.120 areas and you know, would probably be better off honestly 0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:03.000 being like an artist or an actor, you know, which 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:04.520 is sort of what she's tried. But I think she 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:07.680 just needs to keep doing I don't know. I mean, 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:09.960 I thought you'd probably be the best person to think 0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:13.800 this is what you actually do? 0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:15.840 Do you? I'm not a do you. I'm not a 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:16.640 real therapist. 0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:18.919 I don't know if you know that, but you are 0:21:18.960 --> 0:21:19.480 a get go. 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:22.000 I am a gecko. But she didn't say she wanted 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:23.359 to be a gecko. She said she wanted to be 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:24.320 a therapist. 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:26.080 That's true, Toche. 0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:27.800 Okay, maybe in. 0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:30.280 Fact, actually being insane might help her be a gecko. 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:35.320 That's that's also true. Okay, Well ask you a questions 0:21:35.320 --> 0:21:36.439 about myself instead. 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:39.440 Okay, let me let me let me say this though, 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:45.320 by the way, I think it's funny that, you know, 0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:48.719 traditionally people and I don't know how hard it is 0:21:48.720 --> 0:21:52.360 to become a therapist, but it's funny that you want 0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:55.920 to steer her away from being a therapist into being 0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:59.240 like an actor or an artist, which are tradisally thought 0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:00.800 of as much hard to get into. 0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:04.680 The thing is she's really suited for that. She's actually 0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:07.080 really good at those things. I think she just doesn't 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:10.080 have quite the self confidence she needs to maybe take 0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:12.840 it to where she needs to fully go. But I 0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:15.280 see it, and I believe it. I just think it 0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:18.479 might be a more appropriate thing ultimately for her. 0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:22.560 Well, just to just to sort of wrap that thing 0:22:22.640 --> 0:22:25.240 up is in my opinion, I think that you know, 0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:29.280 if you you know, look, by the way, people in 0:22:29.359 --> 0:22:31.960 chat are probably gonna hate on you. I'm not I'm 0:22:31.960 --> 0:22:34.280 not looking at Chat. I mean, if there's no chat, 0:22:34.359 --> 0:22:37.960 this is all pre recorded. But I'm positive people in 0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:40.920 Chat are gonna meme on you right now. And here's 0:22:40.960 --> 0:22:43.919 what I'll say, is that because you know, I think 0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:51.160 I can tell that you care about your friend, I do, 0:22:51.640 --> 0:23:00.359 and if you do, you should support her in whatever 0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:03.080 it is she wants to do. That's more important. That's 0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:06.240 more important, I think than trying to steer her to 0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:09.840 the right thing, is to support her in whatever thing 0:23:09.960 --> 0:23:13.320 she chooses. That that I think is a better use 0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:18.440 of your friendship energy than to steer the ship. Put 0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:21.000 a coal in the fire, but don't don't be steering 0:23:21.040 --> 0:23:24.840 the boat. Okay, Well, listen, man, thank you so much 0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:26.320 for calling in. You have the rest of the night. 0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:27.600 Appreciate you. 0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:34.840 GETO you two men. I know Chat's gonna meme on 0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:45.520 that guy, Tom. Tom. Yeah, how are you Tom? 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:46.280