1 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Get in touch with technology with text Stuff from Stuff 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: from stat Co. Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. 3 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm Jonathan Strickland, and I'm bringing you another classic episode 4 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: of tech Stuff. If you guys haven't figured this out, 5 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: I am preparing for a vacation and it means that 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: I have to add in extra recording time. But unfortunately, 7 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: getting extra time for potential co hosts is a really 8 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: challenging thing. So I've recorded a couple of you know, 9 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: updates to old episodes. This time, I want to talk 10 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: about the U two spy plane. You know. Recently Ben 11 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: Boland joined me for an episode about the super secret 12 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: space plane and what it might be up to, uh, 13 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: and that reminded me of this classic episode of tex 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: Stuff about the U two spy plane. Also, I was 15 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: thinking about the U two spy plane because I still 16 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: have uh my Negative Land episode on the brain. If 17 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: you missed that episode, should definitely check it out. It's 18 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: really awesome. Nold did an amazing job producing that episode. 19 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: And of course Negative Land is the performance group that 20 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: got into a little bit of legal trouble when they 21 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: had a sort of spoof on a YouTube song Come Out, 22 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: but you can hear all about that in the episode 23 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: about Negative Land. Oh and I also was thinking about YouTube, 24 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: because even though it happened months ago, it still kind 25 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: of makes me chuckle that Apple essentially forced a new 26 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: YouTube album onto everyone who owns an iPhone, whether they 27 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: wanted it or not. Obviously that didn't pan out exactly 28 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: the way they had planned. The best intentions did not 29 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: lead to the best outcomes in that case, but pretty 30 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: amusing at any rate. YouTube has been on my mind. 31 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: So it's time to talk about the actual spy plane, 32 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: not the band, not the Negative Land piece. But it's 33 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: an interesting story. I hope you enjoyed this classic episode 34 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: of tech Stuff as Chris Polette and I look back 35 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: about where that spy plane came from and how it 36 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: played such an important role in surveillance over the years. 37 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: We were going to talk today about an interesting thing 38 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: that I saw the other day, which is um Well. 39 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: In a way, it's sort of a drone because it 40 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: starts with a the r Q for Global Hawk, a 41 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,119 Speaker 1: drone aircraft that is um Well. It's status is sort 42 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: of in question right now, as at the time we're 43 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 1: recording this, there negotiating the budget for uh, the United 44 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: you know, the defense budget for the United States of 45 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: America UM, and UH that's one of the items that 46 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: was considered to be struck. Now, of course, UM, over 47 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: the past few years, unmanned aerial vehicles have been UH 48 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: coming up a lot in the news. They've been instrumental 49 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:56,119 Speaker 1: in several of the military engagements around the world with 50 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: the United States, I mean, US has has employed unman 51 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: aerial vehicles in lots of cases. The proposal was that 52 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: there would be three d forty two million dollars budgeted 53 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: UM to UH to work on the Global Hawk and UM. 54 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: As it turns out, it's been proposed that they dropped 55 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: the item entirely in favor of a much more uh, 56 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: much more less cutting edge technology in a way. And 57 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: the reason one of the reasons to talk about cutting 58 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: this whole Global Hawk thing is because, uh, it's expensive. Yeah, 59 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: the estimated cost of a single Global Hawk is a 60 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy six million dollars. That's expensive. So they 61 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: had they had enough. They had just they didn't even 62 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: quite have enough money in the budget for two of them. 63 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: So you can get one and seven eighths of a 64 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: Global Hawk for the budget they had proposed. So the 65 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: the alternative right now for a and the purpose of 66 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: the Global Hawk, we should say, is it's reconnaissance air craft. Yes, 67 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't attack people, it is it is their for 68 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: surveillance purposes, specifically spying. So you know, there are a 69 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: lot of unmanned aerial vehicles that have been developed over 70 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: the last several years. Many of them are designed to 71 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: get a real time uh feel of what's going on 72 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: in certain environments. And they they're designed to do things 73 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: like fly through areas that could be combat zones, but 74 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: they're not necessarily designed to spy to be able to 75 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: fly through undetected. It's more about getting as quick and 76 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: accurate a picture of the situation as it exists right now, 77 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: rather than let's go find out what those pesky so 78 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: and so is over there are doing. So are pesky 79 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: so and so technology tends to be much more sneaky, 80 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: and it's designed to be very fast. Usually it's designed 81 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: to fly very very high so that can try to 82 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: avoid things like radar as well as missiles you know, 83 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: attempts to take it down. UH. And it's designed to 84 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: try and gather as much information as quickly as possible. UH. 85 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: And since the nineteen fifties. That technology has been one 86 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: particular type of aircraft in the United States. Even though 87 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: we've tried to replace it on multiple occasions, we're still 88 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: using it today and the it's what we will be 89 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: using instead of the Global Hawk, the Lockheed U two. Yes, 90 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: I believe it or not. Um they're saying that the 91 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: the U two is actually a better piece of technology 92 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: and in some ways than the the newer unmanned aerial vehicle. 93 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: And like I said, the replacement for the U two 94 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: has has was built and was retired already, which was 95 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: the SR seventy one Blackbird. But we'll get into that. 96 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: It's a gorgeous design, right. So they have the Blackbird, 97 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: which was designed to be the replacement for the YouTube. 98 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: It actually lived out it's useful life in the US 99 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: Air Force and then was retired because well, it's really 100 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: expensive to maintain as well. In fact, well, and I'll 101 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: talk about why it was expensive to maintain, because that's 102 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: kind of an interesting story. But to to understand the 103 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: You two, we have to go back quite a bit. 104 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: And we're not going to use the way back machine 105 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: because I found out that stuff you should know used 106 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: it about a week and a half ago, and apparently 107 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: they left it somewhere, like they actually hoofed it back 108 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: from seven And I have no idea what they were 109 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: doing back then. But yeah, so I have no idea. 110 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: We have to track it down. So we're just gonna 111 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: have to talk about today, all right then, But um so, 112 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: then you would probably go back in time if we 113 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: were using the machine to uh about Well, August nine 114 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: is the first day it ever flew. Yes, August one, 115 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty five, it's first flight of the YouTube. Now, 116 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: the whole purpose for developing the YouTube stems out of 117 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: the Cold War between the United States and the then 118 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: USSR Soviet Union. Um So, the whole reason for it 119 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: was that we needed to have weaving the United States 120 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: because from the US the United States needed to have 121 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: some sort of vehicle to get an idea of what 122 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: was going on and a potential uh um wartime enemy. 123 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: And the Cold War was was called the Cold War 124 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: because it wasn't like there actual physical outbreaks of violence 125 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: between the two countries, but there was a true rivalry 126 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: of global proportions going on between the two, and so 127 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: we there were needs each each country felt the need 128 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: to find out as much about what was going on 129 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: in the other country as possible, and so they were 130 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: developing their own ways of spying on each other. Of course, 131 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: this also figured into this space race. Um. We've talked 132 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: about the thing what beaped but sput Nick that they 133 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: sent up from the Soviet Union um shortly after that period, 134 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: but it was around the same time they were looking 135 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: for ways to spy on each other. Of course, satellite 136 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: technology entered into it. But the YouTube predates ate because 137 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: I mean it was already flying by by that point. Yeah. 138 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: So this is during the Eisenhower administration in the United 139 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: States history and uh, and so there were several the government, 140 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: the United States government actually invited several different companies to 141 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: submit proposals for a spy plane. That's pretty typical, right, 142 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: And the company that went out was Lockeed and there 143 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: was a fellow by the name of Clarence Kelly Johnson 144 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: who was put in charge of the development of this 145 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: spy plane. Johnson also was instrumental in creating the the 146 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: facility that was the testing grounds for this particular airplane, 147 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: and that facility has gone on to gain incredible notoriety, yes, 148 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: partially because it was very innovative and partially because it 149 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: just has a very cool name and it was very, 150 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: very very secret about everything, and that cool name, at 151 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: least that's the popular name for it, is Area fifty one. 152 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: So if you always wondered what Area fifty one was about, 153 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: and you've heard about things like UFOs and aliens, what 154 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: it really was about was a testing ground for secret aircraft, 155 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: and the YouTube was very much a secret aircraft. The 156 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: United States did not really talk about what the You 157 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: two was for until they were forced to. And we'll 158 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: get into that story too, because that's pretty dramatic. But 159 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: but before we get into that, let's talk more about 160 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: what the You two actually was and uh oh, and 161 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: in case you're just wondering, Area fifty one, also popularly 162 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: known as Groom Lake because it's a dry lake bed, 163 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: was where it was built up on. And uh I 164 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: think in the future we're going to have to do 165 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: a podcast all about Area fifty one because it was 166 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: such a cool place. It's not really not really a 167 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: thing anymore, but it was definitely a neat idea and 168 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: some really cool technology was developed there. Anyway, getting back 169 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: to the YouTube, Yeah, it's got a Now this this 170 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: sucker can fly at at altitudes of more than seventy 171 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: thousand feet. Yes, Um, that's pretty high up. Yeah, that's 172 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: when you think about commercial jet liners are tend to 173 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: be between thirty and thirty five thousand feet, sometimes a 174 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: little higher. Uh, you know, it's more than twice as 175 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: high up. And uh it was built. It was built 176 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: with a really really long wings almost like a glider, 177 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: and very light air frame. Yeah. Well I'm sorry, go ahead. 178 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: The wingspan of the U two is about a hundred 179 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: and five feet or you know, thirty two meters or so, 180 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: the length of sixty three ft or about nineteen point 181 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: two meters, and height uh sixteen feet about four point 182 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: eight meters, and only way is sixteen thousand pounds, which 183 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: when you think about it is pretty light. That's pretty remarkable. Yeah. 184 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: It's got one General Electric F one eighteen Dash one 185 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: oh one engine. Yeah, although there were other engines used 186 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: in the YouTube during its entire history. Uh. There Uh, 187 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: there's a J fifty seven turbojet engine, the J seventy 188 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: five turbojet engine, and then the General Electric F one 189 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: eighteen turbo fan engine. Uh. They have all been used 190 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: in you two's throughout its history of its service in 191 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: the United States. Before we get too much further into 192 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: the technical details, one of their interesting element. Originally this 193 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: was pitched to the Air Force. The Air Force decided 194 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: it did not The Air Force decided not to fund it. 195 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: The funding came from the c I. A. Yeah, so 196 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: the Central Intelligence Agency is actually responsible for the development 197 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: of the you tube and uh. In fact, the pilots 198 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: of those early youtubs were all CIA pilots because the 199 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: idea was that if you had a a plane go 200 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: down and the pilot of that plane was a member 201 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: of the United States military, it could look like a 202 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: military action against another country. Because you were a pilot 203 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: for the CIA, you had to be a civilian, So 204 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: you actually would go through and and quit a branch 205 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: of the military service. You would no longer be a 206 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: part of the Air Force. You would become a civilian 207 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: and be employed by the CIA, and that would give 208 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: you the deniability that it was a military action against 209 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: another country. Well, of course, um also sneaky. If you're 210 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: wondering how much these aircraft cost, they won't tell you 211 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: that information is classified. There's actually a lot of information 212 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: classified about the YouTube, Like we can't tell you specifically 213 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: all the different sensors that are on board a YouTube. 214 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: We can tell you that it does have a camera, 215 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: actually has multiple cameras in order to get a visual 216 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: representation of what's what it's flying over. It also has 217 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: sensors that can detect the quality of the air and 218 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: and perhaps even sniff out things like, uh, chemicals that 219 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: would be indicative of a nuclear facility in the area. Um, 220 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: it's got Supposedly it has sensors that can allow it 221 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: to even eavesdrop on cell phone conversations. Interesting, and there's 222 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: also a data link that allows it to upload information 223 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: in real time to a remote location. Yes, it's got 224 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: a it has infrared cameras and an optical bar camera. Um. 225 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: And uh it does have you know, advanced radar capabilities 226 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: as well. UM. So it's it's certainly able to pay 227 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: a lot of attention to what's going on in the 228 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: world around it. Um, even from the altitudes that they 229 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: can reach. Does have a crew of one we know 230 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: that much. Yeah, it's it's designed to be a one 231 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: person aircraft. I have heard that there are a few 232 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,599 Speaker 1: examples of two men you twos, but they are specifically 233 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: built for training purposes. They are not They're not actually 234 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: used in service. Uh, it does. It can reach a 235 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: speed of about four miles per hour. It's not you know, 236 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: we're not talking about breaking the speed of sound. Um, 237 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: which is unlike the SR seventy one. Yes, which that 238 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: was one of the reasons why the SR seventy one 239 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: was developed was they wanted the government wanted something that 240 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: was even faster and could fly even higher than the 241 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: U two And the s R seventy one could do 242 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: both those things. It could fly at an altitude around 243 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: ninety thou feet and it could fly very fast. Indeed, yes, 244 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: which works for the X men. Yes, sort of um 245 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: and often than not. And if you're wondering, there are 246 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: about thirty three of them. They are still active. Um 247 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: and Yeah. Despite as as Jonathan said earlier, just Bite 248 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: attempts to phase them out as older, outmoded technology, they're 249 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: just too good at what they do well. It turns 250 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: out the other stuff that was built to replace them 251 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: wasn't good enough and was more expensive. So while you 252 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: had aircraft that could fly faster and higher. Uh. The 253 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: one of the big drawbacks of the Blackbird was that 254 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: it did not have a data link. So when you 255 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: sent a Blackbird out on a mission in the dead 256 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: of night. You had to wait for it to come 257 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: back and dump all that information for you to be 258 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: able to look at it. You couldn't get updates as 259 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: the mission was going on, at least not of all 260 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: the data that it was collecting. You know. The pilot 261 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: could communicate presumably, but smartphone, Yeah, there's anap for that. 262 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: But flying over foreign power l O L nice R 263 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: TfL uh the uh the only uh. There's some other 264 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: interesting things about the YouTube. It's landing gear it has. 265 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: You know, most most aircraft that we think of today 266 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: has have the landing gear. Where's the one set of 267 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: ehels up front and then the two set of wheels 268 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: in the backs. It's almost like a tricycle, you know. 269 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: YouTube does not have that. It has more like a 270 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: bicycle set up. It's got one the front set of 271 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: wheels and back set of wheels are in line with 272 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: one another. Now, it does have wheels called pogos that 273 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: are attached to the wings for takeoff, so to give 274 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: it stability when you're taking off with a you two. 275 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: But then once you take off, you jettison those wheels. 276 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: They're gone and you only when you're coming into land. 277 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: You only have those two sets of wheels, so you're thinking, 278 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: how can you maintain balance? Well, the wings have skids 279 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: on them to protect the wings. It's apparently really really 280 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: hard to fly a YouTube and and more so not 281 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: just because of the landing thing, although landing apparently is 282 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: one of the most difficult maneuvers you can do with 283 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: the YouTube because the wings are so wide, the a 284 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 1: little cross wind can very much affect the you to 285 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: it can start gliding off track and uh, it's it's 286 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: really hard to correct for that. Another issue is that 287 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: it's designed to fly at a very high altitude. We'll 288 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: at that altitude, the atmosphere is not as thick. Yeah, 289 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: it's the thinner atmosphere. Well, in order to give precise 290 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 1: controls at that altitude, the controls are extremely responsive when 291 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: you are flying through a very thin atmosphere. So just 292 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: a tiny little adjustment by the pilot is going to 293 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: result in a pretty dramatic change in the plane's behavior. 294 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: All right, when you start going down, you start descending 295 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: in the atmosphere is starting to get thicker. Suddenly those 296 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: controls aren't as responsive and you have to do more 297 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: to get the plane to do what you wanted to do. 298 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: So as you're descending from that height where you're actually 299 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: spying and everything and you're coming down, UH, the plane 300 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 1: becomes less responsive and the pilot has to use a 301 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: lot more force to get the plane to do what 302 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: he wants it or she wants it to do. And UM, 303 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: and so it is supposed to be are supposedly one 304 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: of the most difficult aircraft master because the two sets 305 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 1: of flying UH scenarios are so different. As if that 306 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: weren't enough, because of the way the plane is configured, 307 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to see out of um that 308 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: the nose is very long, and it's difficult to see 309 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: out the back because of the tail. So as a 310 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: matter of fact, Uh, Jonathan I, I've actually seen information 311 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: that suggests that many pilots call it the most difficult 312 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: plane in the world to fly, and and it actually 313 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: requires in some instances, actually requires a second set of eyes. 314 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: Somebody else will go up after the U two to 315 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: UH to help it get down, somebody who's sort of 316 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: if you will, it's sort of a visual spot and 317 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: they go, you know, there's sometimes lined up. Sometimes it's 318 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: a person in a souped up cars, a second, a 319 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: second YouTube pilot who is being driven on in a 320 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: souped up car, going alongside the plane as it's coming 321 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: down and giving verbal directions to the pilot. So the 322 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,959 Speaker 1: pilot hasn't indication of how far they are from the 323 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: surface and whether they need to make any adjustments. So 324 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: they'll be in a car traveling at a pretty good 325 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 1: clip of speed. Okay, see that was my That was 326 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: my assumption because it said my notes say high performance vehicle, 327 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: and it didn't say what kind of vehicle. Yeah, it 328 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: was a high performance car, the Blues Mobile. Actually they 329 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: just chat. They have that that megaphone on top, and 330 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: they all right, is what you gotta do? You gotta 331 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: go down two ft two ft anyway? Um, So yeah, 332 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: there's that, and then there's also uh, some other interesting 333 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: things about the YouTube. Another reason why it's so hard 334 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: to fly is that it has to almost always be 335 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: flying near the maximum speed to the vehicle. And the 336 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: reason for that is because if it starts to get 337 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: down below about nineteen kilometers per hour below maximum speed, 338 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: which is ten knots. When it starts to drop below 339 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: ten knots from its maximum speed at whatever altitude it's at, 340 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: it starts to stall. So in other words, there's a 341 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: really narrow window of performance that the plane can operate 342 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: at where it's not falling out of the sky. It 343 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: has to be going almost full speed or else it's 344 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: dropping like a rock. And uh, the pilots have a 345 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 1: a special name for that, that little window you were, 346 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: that little narrow window of of speed. Can you do 347 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: you have you did you come across that? It's it's 348 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: a charming name. It is the coffin corner. Nice. So yeah, 349 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: it's um, yeah, pilots. Pilots have a interesting set of 350 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: um of of terms for they have. They have a 351 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: very dry and uh, realistic view of the world. So yeah, 352 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: interesting designs. So why sorry, go ahead, I was gonna say, well, 353 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: the design has changed over the years somewhat. I mean 354 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: they've they've made some adaptations for it. It It was originally 355 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: based on the F one oh four UH fighter jet, 356 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: but um, you know it has they they actually the 357 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: version that they fly now is somewhat longer and has 358 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: they've they've upgraded the the avionics systems. In the past. 359 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: They didn't originally use digital uh systems. They were using 360 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: UM analog gauges, but they've they've updated all those things 361 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: now and so it's a it's a much more um 362 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: I mean, of course, the plane itself is based on 363 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: the original design. It's just it's been adapted and updated 364 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: as as necessary over the years have have gone by. 365 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: So and for the first several years of you tube's existence, 366 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: the government of course did not admit that it had 367 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: this biplane. They said that the U two. That people 368 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: knew that the you two existed, they just didn't know 369 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: what it was for. And the reason given mostly was 370 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: that it was a vehicle used to examine the weather 371 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: patterns and weather conditions. It was all about gathering information 372 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: about the environment. That there wasn't anything about spy plane. Well, 373 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: that all changed on May one, nineteen sixty, that is 374 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: when a pilot, a CIA pilot named Gary Powers, was 375 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: operating a YouTube and crashed in Soviet territory. Now, the 376 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: cause of the crash is has always been disputed. Right there. 377 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: There's some reports that say that what happened was he 378 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: was shot down, that it was hit the plane was 379 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: was hit by a Soviet missile and it caused the 380 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: plane to crash. There were other reports that said that 381 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: the YouTube passed through the slip stream of another vehicle, 382 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: another plane, and that it caused the YOU two to 383 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: go out of control and a wing ripped off of 384 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: it and it crashed because of that. There's another report 385 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,959 Speaker 1: that said missiles were fired at the U two, but uh, 386 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: it exploded behind the plane, and the that the explosion 387 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: was enough to send it off control. What is known 388 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: is that there was unfortunately, there was another pilot, a 389 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: Soviet pilot who is flying a MiG who actually did 390 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: get hit by the missiles that were meant for the 391 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: YouTube plane and died as a result. Well, Gary Powers 392 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: was shot down, but he survived. However, he was he 393 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: was used in a little bit of subterfuge on top 394 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: of the subterfuge he was already a part of, because 395 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: the premier of the Soviet Union, Khrushchev, didn't let the 396 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: United States know that Powers survived the crash. Instead, what 397 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: Kris Jeff did was he said, uh, the United States 398 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: had a spy plane over my country and we shut 399 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: it down, and you got some splaning to do. Chris 400 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: is banging the table with his shoe, So if you 401 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: don't know what that's about, look up Chris Jeff and shoe. 402 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: But yes, so Christeff. Christcheff was a little perturbed, said 403 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: there was a spy plane over well here was an 404 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: aggressive act. Yes, yeah, and how can you disagree with that? 405 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: I mean it was a spy plane. Yeah. So did 406 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: the United States say? Yeah? Okay? Now, because again the US, 407 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: not aware that Powers was alive, went into the cover 408 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: story that they had created for this sort of scenario, 409 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: assuming that Powers had died. The Eisenhower administration said that 410 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: the plane was just a weather research aircraft. It had 411 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: accidentally moved into Soviet airspace. It was not meant to 412 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: be there. The pilot had actually radio that there was 413 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: some problem with the equipment aboard the plane. That was 414 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: specifically the oxygen equipment, because when you're flying at that 415 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: height you need to have special equipment to pressurize the cabin. 416 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: And in fact, the pilots of the YouTube where something 417 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: that's almost like a space suit because of the otherwise 418 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: you could have some real pressurization problems. So they said, no, no, no, 419 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,239 Speaker 1: it's just a weather aircraft. It was there were some 420 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: problems that we heard about. They were supposed to be 421 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: over Turkey. Uh, it was completely just a misunderstanding, and 422 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: that that the plane that was shot down is probably 423 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: the weather plane. It's it's definitely not a spy plane. 424 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: And then Chris Jeff said, the pilots alive and we 425 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: recovered all the information aboard the plane. It was actually 426 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: in in good conditions. So we know exactly what you 427 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: were looking for, and we know exactly what the purpose 428 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: of this this vehicle was. And you are a big 429 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: fibbing fibber. Yes, they they that he was okay in Moscow, 430 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: um and he had said he They said that he 431 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: told them that he had taken off from Peshawar in Pakistan, 432 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: UM and he was told to fly over the Soviet 433 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: Union um basically over the Errold Sea. Were Sverdlovsk, Kirov, 434 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: our King I can't pronounce that word, our King Glisk 435 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: and Murmansk to the Bodo Military Airfield in Norway, and 436 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: so they he he told them he they said, he 437 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 1: told them the exact route he was supposed to fly um. 438 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: And of course you know that the United States after 439 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: that was still saying, well that that really wasn't wasn't 440 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: what was going on there. It was just very hard 441 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: to deny when they had so much and there was 442 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: and there was a supposed to be a summit that 443 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: was going to be going on, like I think a 444 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: week or two after this happened, and it caused quite 445 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,239 Speaker 1: a stir and international polity picks that this and it 446 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: was it was considered to be a very huge humiliating 447 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: embarrassment for the United States and demanded that the United 448 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 1: States stopped flying over the Soviet Union or you know, 449 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: they'd leave. Do I need to take my shoe off again? 450 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: Put it back on? And uh. Ultimately the international community 451 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: ended up sighting more with the United States than with 452 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: the Soviet Union. But other outcomes of this Powers was 453 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: was tried and convicted in the Soviet Union in August 454 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: that year. He was sentenced to several years of prison, 455 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: followed by I think seven years of hard labor. But 456 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: he ended up getting released as part of an exchange, 457 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: a prisoner exchange for Rudolph Able. Yeah, and that that 458 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: took place. All right, kids, you might not know this, 459 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: but when I was a kid, there were two Germany's. 460 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: There's an East Germany and there was a West Germany. 461 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: And the exchange actually took place on a bridge between 462 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: the borders of East Berlin and West Berlin. And it 463 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: was a very famous event. So now there's no longer 464 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: in East Germany and West Germany, but back when I 465 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: was a kid, there was and that this is what 466 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: you know, this took place at that location because the 467 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: there was a Soviet controlled part and there was the 468 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: German controlled part. All that is in the past. Now 469 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: ask your parents about the Berlin Wall kids, Well, there 470 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: there were no Really, I don't recall any other major 471 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: famous incidents in which a YouTube was involved. There was 472 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: the Zaropa Tour, yes, and I was wondering how long 473 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: I could go without making a YouTube joke, and then 474 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: the answer was twenty seven minutes. Um. But ironically enough, 475 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: I find um uh. NASA, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, 476 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: has used the e R two, which is basically a 477 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: model fied YouTube, to collect information on um the on 478 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: space phenomena, and on the Earth itself. So yes, in fact, 479 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: it does make it pretty good, uh you know, weather 480 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: in and observation plane for other purposes than just spying, 481 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: but still being used as a as a spy plane. 482 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: According to I just thought it was kind of funny. 483 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: Then yeah, you know, then Niles and then well, as 484 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: it turns out, you can use it for that. So 485 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: I found out some more information about and I was 486 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: gonna say talk about the blackbird and about how it 487 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: was supposed to be. That was also developed an Area 488 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: fifty one. It was originally called the A twelve that 489 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: was its designation, then eventually was known as the s 490 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: R seventy one Blackbird. UM. It was the successor to 491 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: the YouTube but was retired and it had a useful 492 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: life of between nineteen sixty four and when it was 493 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: retired for the second time. So it's kind of like 494 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: a professional wrestler, you know, it retires and then comes 495 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: back and then retires again, but in this case only 496 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: retired the two times. And and there's no real way 497 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: of making more of them because they destroyed the tooling 498 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: machinery back in the sixties when they built a blackbird, 499 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: the idea being that they didn't want it to fall 500 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: into any other hands, and so this was a way 501 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: of maintaining secrecy. The downside of that is that once 502 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: you run out of blackbirds, you don't have any more 503 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: of them. Uh, there's no way to make more UM. 504 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: And so they actually had a lot of issues with that, 505 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: and there were several blackbirds that were involved in various accidents, 506 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: and the incidence that made them either they either were 507 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: destroyed as a result or they were inoperable. Uh So 508 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: they now all exist pretty much in museums. I think 509 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: there might be one or two that um belonged to NASA, actually, 510 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: but there aren't any that are being used in military service. 511 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: So the Air Force has stopped using the Blackbird. Well, 512 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: you know, that was supposed to be the successor to 513 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: the You two, but they again stopped being used in 514 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: ninety eight. The You two kept going since. According to 515 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: the Air Force, a well one point seven billion with 516 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: a B dollars have been poured into the YouTube program 517 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: to keep it up to date, to modernize it, make 518 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: sure that it's you know, operating at at a level 519 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: that that modern warfare and modern politics demands, because you know, 520 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: we've got a lot more sophisticated with the ways that 521 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: we detect stuff. So in order to stay ahead, it 522 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: had a lot more money to be poured into it. 523 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: And according to one source I saw, since two thousand 524 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: and three, the Air Force has flown more than nine 525 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: five thousand hours using the YouTube. Keep in mind there 526 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: only thirty three of these things. That's pretty impressive. Yeah, yeah, 527 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: well the uh, in case you're wondering, the r Q 528 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: four may not be off the table. Um. It is 529 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: presumed that North Grumman, the company that makes Well, the 530 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: primary company that makes it, will try to get it 531 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: put back into the into the budget. And it may 532 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: just be that it's a delay more than anything else. 533 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: In fact, most of those sources I saw was that 534 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: it's it's it's that the date keeps getting pushed back, 535 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: like originally the the YouTube was supposed to be retired 536 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: by the most recent date I saw it was, yeah, 537 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: And then I saw one that said it may be 538 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: flying as late as twenty fifty, which means it would 539 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: be a hundred years old. Almost. Yeah, yeah, well, you know, 540 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: and uh, it takes three people to fly in r 541 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: Q four. You know, you have to have an l 542 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: R E pilot, an m C E pilot, and a 543 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: sensor operator. And it only flies up to sixty thousand 544 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: feet which is about eighteen thousand, two eight meters um. 545 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: It uh has a maximum speed of three seven miles 546 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: per hour about three D ten knots um. So you know, 547 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: it's it's comparable in some ways, but in others, you know, 548 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: the you two still out does it. So, um, it's 549 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: it's impressive stuff. But it's kind of funny to me 550 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: that that tried and true YOU two is still hanging 551 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: in there despite all these other things that that could 552 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: replace it. Yeah. Part of that is the the qualities 553 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: of the U two, and part of that is is 554 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: purely economical. She said, you know, there's just not the 555 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: money to replace it, and that you know, we do 556 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: have a need for reconnaissance vehicles. And you might ask, well, 557 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: why do we need that, because we've got satellites now right, 558 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: We've got satellites that can spy on stuff. And that's true, 559 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: we do have satellites, but satellites are not yeah stuff 560 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: the beeps. Satellites are not capable of of focusing in 561 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: on a very specific region at a reasonable amount of 562 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: time in many cases, So it may be that you've 563 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: got a great view of this one region, but the 564 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: problem is that the issue that you need to look 565 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: at is just outside of that that view, and in 566 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: order to change the view on the satellite is going 567 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: to take hours. Whereas you could send a YouTube plane 568 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: stationed in a nearby country to fly over and get 569 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: a look right then and there, and the way the 570 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: world works, we need information instantly. We can't wait anymore. 571 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: So Yeah, for for instance, they might have intelligence that 572 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: a specific operation is going on right now, and they're 573 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: going to hide whatever it is that they're moving, you know, 574 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 1: some some kind of weapons technology or some you know, uh, 575 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 1: something like that, or or a caravan of people or something. 576 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: You know, it could be a variety of things that 577 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,919 Speaker 1: you want to see. Um And by the time the 578 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: Earth rotates back to where the satellite could take a 579 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: good picture of it, it'll be too late. Um. So 580 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: that kind of thing, yep, yep, spy stuff is cool, 581 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: and yes it is, but um oh, but and it 582 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: did play a major part in the the Cuban missile 583 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: crisis in the nineteen six Pieces was able to get 584 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: a good picture of what was going on there between 585 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: the Soviets and the Cubans. Um do you and you 586 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: know we didn't mention it, But do you know what 587 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: the nickname is for the YouTube? Oh? I did see 588 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: it a moment ago, and then I scrolled past it 589 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: in my notes. I'm surprised I didn't mention it already. 590 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:13,399 Speaker 1: It is the Dragon Lady. Yes you don't. You don't 591 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: hear it? Mentioned the you two is well known enough 592 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: by it by its normal designation that you don't really 593 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: hear the nickname very often like you do the SR 594 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: seventy one Blackbird for example. But yeah, that's a cool name, 595 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: cool name. All right. Well, this wraps up this discussion 596 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: about the YouTube. Like I said, we'll try and do 597 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: one about Area fifty one specifically. At some point we 598 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: can talk about the other vehicles and technologies that came 599 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: out of that research facility, uh, and also talk about 600 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: why it was so secret and uh, you know, the 601 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: whole craziness that surrounds Area fifty one and and how 602 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: it plays a part in conspiracy theories because you know 603 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,240 Speaker 1: it does, you might not have heard about it. Um, 604 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: you need to watch this documentary series called The X 605 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: Files goes all into it, all right. And that was 606 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: our classic tech stuff episode on the YouTube spy Plane. 607 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: We've talked about several other times, obviously when we talked 608 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,439 Speaker 1: about Area fifty one and some of the other surveillance 609 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: and spy technology podcasts. But I really enjoyed that original episode. 610 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,399 Speaker 1: I hope you guys did too. If you have any 611 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 1: suggestions for future episodes, you can write to me. My 612 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: email address is tech stuff at how stuff works dot com, 613 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: or drop me a line on Facebook, Twitter, or Tumbler 614 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: to handle it. 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