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Speaker 1: And welcome to the Drive Time Podcast, part of the
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Speaker 1: Hope you all had a great Thanksgiving. I am your host,
Speaker 1: Travis Wingfield, and I am here to bring you your
Speaker 1: daily dose of Miami Dolphins football. And on today's show,
Speaker 1: with a trip to the Metal Lands on the Horizon,
Speaker 1: We're gonna go way back and get to the origin
Speaker 1: of the Dolphins Jets rivalry with Dick Anderson. Plus, Dick
Speaker 1: will help us pay tribute to his longtime friend and
Speaker 1: safety running mate in the late great Super Bowl seven
Speaker 1: m v P in Jake Scott. All of that more
Speaker 1: on this Friday, November edition of the Drive Time Podcast.
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Speaker 1: we do every Friday, with the latest injury report for
Speaker 1: Dolphins and Jets one o'clock Eastern on Sunday afternoon. Two
Speaker 1: players are out in rookie Solomon Kinley and Savan Akhmed
Speaker 1: they will miss the games Sunday against the Jets. A
Speaker 1: pair of players are questionable and quarterback to a tongue
Speaker 1: Byloa and wide receiver Jachim Grant and Brian Flores also
Speaker 1: said the Dolphins might be able to get Miles gascon
Speaker 1: back off the injured reserve. They will find out, evaluate
Speaker 1: and make a decision over the weekend. For the Jets,
Speaker 1: quarterback Sam Donald's going to start the game on Sunday.
Speaker 1: He missed the previous three with an injury. And before
Speaker 1: we get to Dick Anderson, here real quick a reminder
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Speaker 1: for you guys on Miami Dolphins dot com and joining
Speaker 1: me now on the Drive Time Podcast is a Dolphins legend,
Speaker 1: three time Pro bowler, two time All Pro, two time
Speaker 1: World Champion, member of the nineteen seventies All Decade Team
Speaker 1: in the nineteen seventy three Rookie of the Year, Dick Anderson. Dick,
Speaker 1: welcome in, sir, Thank you very much, very happy to
Speaker 1: have you today. We we always love to start these
Speaker 1: podcasts off with the alumni by asking, and you had
Speaker 1: told me earlier you were going back to your office.
Speaker 1: What are you up to these days? Well, I've had
Speaker 1: a insurances my first year of playing for the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: and so the players used to give me a hard
Speaker 1: time because I'd be going to my office. And about
Speaker 1: at the end of my career, they didn't give me
Speaker 1: a hard time anymore. They wished they had done the same.
Speaker 1: So they actually told that same story on the NFL
Speaker 1: Network America's Game series the NFL Film series about you
Speaker 1: going out to the trunk of your car during practice
Speaker 1: or during meetings or in between breaks, I should say
Speaker 1: where you would go out there and take phone calls.
Speaker 1: That that's an accurate depiction. Uh, yeah, that is accurate.
Speaker 1: I actually had a car phone in those days. It
Speaker 1: had a cord on it and in a box in
Speaker 1: the back of the of the the trunk that was
Speaker 1: about three ft long and a foot high. And and
Speaker 1: uh so I could sit there and dial numbers. Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of the one of the players was walking across
Speaker 1: the parking lot when he was a rookie and I'm
Speaker 1: in my pads, sitting in the front seat of my
Speaker 1: car and with talking on a telephone. He took that.
Speaker 1: He still reminds me of that. I have so many
Speaker 1: questions here, Dick, because first I'm curious. Uh you had
Speaker 1: to have used like, hey, this is Dick answer for
Speaker 1: the dolphin, like I'm sure you use that in your
Speaker 1: sales pitch, right, you had to live well, you know,
Speaker 1: from my standpoint, if they knew who I was, you know,
Speaker 1: I could get to the decision maker quicker. And that
Speaker 1: really and I was in those days. I was selling
Speaker 1: um credit insurance to banks and and automobile dealers throughout
Speaker 1: the state of Florida, And so you know, by the
Speaker 1: second or third year, I was making a whole lot
Speaker 1: more money doing that. I was playing football, But the
Speaker 1: football got me in the door. You can't have one
Speaker 1: without the other, right, It's kind of the the the
Speaker 1: unit yang right there. Did did Sula ever get on
Speaker 1: your case for for doing that? Or was he supportive? Like?
Speaker 1: How did that relationship work? As far as having that
Speaker 1: second job? Um, I tried not to publicize it at all. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, we had Monday's off, and I'd always work
Speaker 1: on Mondays, and you know, when practice got over, I'd
Speaker 1: go back to my office usually just you know, clean
Speaker 1: up things and um. But you know, it was seemingly
Speaker 1: able to to do that, you know, and not to
Speaker 1: make a big deal of it. What was the car
Speaker 1: phone a rarity? Like? Did your teammates have the same
Speaker 1: set up with they bothered you to come use your phone? Like?
Speaker 1: How did that work? No, they really didn't bother me
Speaker 1: to come use the phone. There was one in the
Speaker 1: Actually the reason I was in my car was I
Speaker 1: used to be on the pay phone in the locker
Speaker 1: room and Sheila kicked me off of that. There you go, Sheila,
Speaker 1: she was not gonna have any of that for sure.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a great story, right there, A good
Speaker 1: reason we love to have these flashback or the alumni
Speaker 1: here on the Flashback Friday edition of the Draft Time podcast.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and get to the reason we have
Speaker 1: Yawn here for a couple of reasons. Actually, One, it's
Speaker 1: Jets week. We always loved talking about possibly beating the
Speaker 1: New York Jets. But also we lost another legend here
Speaker 1: last week. Dick and Jake Scott, the m v P
Speaker 1: of Super Bowl seven, your teammate safety running mate, you
Speaker 1: know as it were, from nineteen seventy to nineteen seventy five.
Speaker 1: I'll just kind of give you the floor here first,
Speaker 1: Dick and just let you tell us who Jake Scott
Speaker 1: was as a foot ballplayer, but also as a man. Well,
Speaker 1: Jake Scott was an absolutely great safety. I think he
Speaker 1: was All Pro five times and in the big games
Speaker 1: he had big plays. Um and so um. You know,
Speaker 1: part of our success was really the fact that Bill
Speaker 1: Arnsberger was our defensive coach and we never questioned a
Speaker 1: defense that he had. UM. And I tell the story
Speaker 1: that Joe Namath every time I see him cusses at me.
Speaker 1: He says, you blankly blank, guys, were never where you're
Speaker 1: supposed to be, and bake and I would take a
Speaker 1: false step and then twirl and go back to a
Speaker 1: different place on the field. And you know he had
Speaker 1: the register that in the game that he never left
Speaker 1: me to forget it. But uh, I don't let him
Speaker 1: forget it either. So you guys would kind of like
Speaker 1: bait the quarterback. Then, right, how did that work? As
Speaker 1: far as the way you communicate. You have to have
Speaker 1: a great relationship together to be able to pull that off,
Speaker 1: wouldn't you. Well, we were very fortunate to have a
Speaker 1: lot of bright players, and Nick Monacani said, well, we
Speaker 1: made eight mental airs the whole season, And so the
Speaker 1: whole key to a defense is that we had we
Speaker 1: lined up the same no matter whether it was a
Speaker 1: blitz or his own or a man coverage, and so
Speaker 1: the quarterback had to read us on the snap. Um,
Speaker 1: and if every player was going where they needed to be, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a lot easier to cover people. And
Speaker 1: so um, you know, we we played as a team
Speaker 1: that way. Jake and I played that way, UM, And
Speaker 1: that's one of the main reasons for the success we had.
Speaker 1: I mean, in seventy two we had a hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty five point scored against us. In seventy three we
Speaker 1: had a hundred and fifty points scored against it. So
Speaker 1: the other team doesn't score, you can't lose. That's how
Speaker 1: it goes, a fun recipe for success and obviously back
Speaker 1: to back world championships there. But I do want to
Speaker 1: get back into the rivalry here between the Dolphins and
Speaker 1: the Jets, because on Sunday, Miami travels to New York
Speaker 1: looking to get to seven and four for the current team,
Speaker 1: and during your time with you and Jake's got back there,
Speaker 1: the Dolphins were ten and two against those Jets in
Speaker 1: those seasons, and we continue that run of dominance in
Speaker 1: the seventies over the Jets after you guys had left
Speaker 1: as well. Can you help educate fans here? What was
Speaker 1: it about that matchup with the Dolphins and Jets in
Speaker 1: the seventies that made Miami so dominant? Well, I think
Speaker 1: number one, it was the coaches, uh COACHLA and what
Speaker 1: he demanded of you um and then on defense, Bill
Speaker 1: Arnsberger was brilliant and so you know from our standpoint,
Speaker 1: and then we had a lot of bright players. So
Speaker 1: when you don't make mistakes and and you can all
Speaker 1: and you don't have injuries, and we had we lost
Speaker 1: very very few players to injuries in those in those
Speaker 1: five years. And so you know, part of it was
Speaker 1: the fact that we played as a team. We um
Speaker 1: didn't have injuries. Everybody did the job that they needed
Speaker 1: to do. And you know, the coaching was was superb
Speaker 1: and so you know, it sounds kind of simple, but
Speaker 1: it it is. Was how we reacted and how we played.
Speaker 1: And then Jake Scott was a brilliant player and and
Speaker 1: Jake would make great plays on in the big games.
Speaker 1: I mean, um, remember remember we're playing the championship game
Speaker 1: against John Unitus and I had intercepted a past and
Speaker 1: Jake made the first block, knocked the guy sideways and
Speaker 1: and then I had six perfect blocks during during that
Speaker 1: run and scored. But those are the kind of games
Speaker 1: that you know, Jake and I would would play well.
Speaker 1: And and I mean with his two interceptions in one
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and you know two and you know long
Speaker 1: runs and another one. Um, you know, we were we
Speaker 1: were prepared and we had a great team to play
Speaker 1: with us. You know, I find it really commendable how
Speaker 1: how willing you are to pass the buck for credit there,
Speaker 1: because you know, in modern football, that's that's kind of
Speaker 1: the coaches speaking, the players speak, right, they're going to
Speaker 1: give cred their teammates and say the right things. But
Speaker 1: here we are, you know, some forty fifty years later,
Speaker 1: and you're still giving those guys all the credit. Dick. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a team, and you know, when you
Speaker 1: don't make mistakes, you're gonna play better. And so the
Speaker 1: other the other thing that's interests me in the game,
Speaker 1: we'd make a tackle, you know, and we'd make tackle
Speaker 1: by ourselves. And today, you know, when a guys getting tackled,
Speaker 1: he's got six people banging on him, and that's you know,
Speaker 1: there's a couple of differences in the game today. One is,
Speaker 1: you know, when they have five and stix receivers going out,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's tougher, much tougher playing his own defense.
Speaker 1: And we had basically three receivers going out. So you
Speaker 1: know the game has changed from that standpoint. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: the players have certainly gotten bigger. I think our biggest
Speaker 1: player would wage to seventy today. You know, yesterday watching
Speaker 1: TV guys with three forty five and know it's it's
Speaker 1: a little bit different game today. Yeah, I think that's
Speaker 1: certainly every And by the fact that you were going
Speaker 1: to the office after practice, I think that would be
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit frowned upon these days. But like
Speaker 1: you said, different eras and it it creates for a
Speaker 1: fun conversation, especially for you know, a younger fan like
Speaker 1: myself who doesn't have that, you know, intimate connection. It's
Speaker 1: always fun to hear your stories about the way the
Speaker 1: game was different. So throughout the other the other side
Speaker 1: it was different. I asked this question to a lot
Speaker 1: of people. I said, I was the third round raft
Speaker 1: choice in nineteen sixty eight. What was my first salary?
Speaker 1: What was it? I want to I want you to guess,
Speaker 1: but I'm definitely about to reverse age myself here. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna guess, uh, eight thousand. Well, you're about six times
Speaker 1: more than the fifteen that I made. Really rookie of
Speaker 1: the Rookie of the Year, and the next year I
Speaker 1: made seventeen five, So defensive rookie the year making seventeen five,
Speaker 1: So you had you had to have a second job.
Speaker 1: Then that was really why we were working. You know,
Speaker 1: everybody had a summer job, and we didn't have any
Speaker 1: summer practices, so you know, we we'd come when the
Speaker 1: training camp started and we played the season, and we
Speaker 1: a lot of players didn't stay in Miami. They go
Speaker 1: back to home, and so it was a different world
Speaker 1: back then. So you obviously play for the love of
Speaker 1: the game. But was there at least tell me there
Speaker 1: was some added perks, Like did you guys get free
Speaker 1: comps at restaurants? Are Like? Did you get that fan fare?
Speaker 1: Were rock stars in South Florida? At least tell me
Speaker 1: there was something else there was help Once we started
Speaker 1: winning then certainly, you know, there were there were things
Speaker 1: that people if the people knew you, they'd treat you
Speaker 1: better than if they didn't know yet. So yeah, there
Speaker 1: were there were a lot of advantages, um, not only
Speaker 1: in business, but um, you know, just in living in
Speaker 1: a community when we were when we were particularly winning
Speaker 1: games and winning Super Bowls. I can't believe how far
Speaker 1: off I was, Dick. I'm a little bit embarrassed to
Speaker 1: be honest with you at this moment. But yeah, that's
Speaker 1: why we've got exactly that's why I've got you on
Speaker 1: the podcast here, and I've been asking you throughout the
Speaker 1: course of the interview to help us younger fans kind
Speaker 1: of educate us. And I'm curious because you know, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you about the way the rivalry is today. I mean,
Speaker 1: for me, when it was Rex Ryan for the Jets
Speaker 1: going up against the Dolphins, those games were always so
Speaker 1: contested and contentious and and so physical and fun to
Speaker 1: watch because we did not like those guys. I'm curious
Speaker 1: from your end back in the seventies and you can
Speaker 1: maybe help us younger fans understand where it all started.
Speaker 1: What was it about the Jets and Dolphins rivalry that
Speaker 1: made it so so contentious and maybe maybe what it
Speaker 1: is today. Well, I don't think it was so contentious
Speaker 1: back then, but um, you know we played him in
Speaker 1: those games. You know years you had fewer games in
Speaker 1: our conference. Um, you know, we had two conferences rather
Speaker 1: than three, you know, on both sides, and so we
Speaker 1: played the Jets twice a year every year, and we
Speaker 1: played New England Buffalo um and the Jets um two times.
Speaker 1: So um, you know, you get in front of him
Speaker 1: more more than normal. And with the all the notoriety
Speaker 1: that Joe Namath you know got and he was a
Speaker 1: heck of a player. We ratcheted up as much as
Speaker 1: we could when we when we played the Jets, and
Speaker 1: you know, there were no big fights and there was
Speaker 1: no you know other than we we would win the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just you know, it's it's a different time frame
Speaker 1: right now there there's certainly a lot more um, you know,
Speaker 1: fights and shoving and that sort of thing going on
Speaker 1: when I'm watching games today. Um. Then, you know then
Speaker 1: when we played you mentioned Joe dan with a couple
Speaker 1: of times there. How many times did you play against
Speaker 1: him in your career? Do you like a ballpark estimate,
Speaker 1: I want to say, fifteen or sixteen times. So do
Speaker 1: you feel like you kind of had a good beat
Speaker 1: on what he was and what his game was and
Speaker 1: that Jets offense then because you saw him so much
Speaker 1: well and it it actually changed, Um, you know when
Speaker 1: when Jake went on and went to Washington and um,
Speaker 1: you know we had players leave when Zaki kick and
Speaker 1: Warfield left. You know, the glory years were you know,
Speaker 1: seventy one to seventy five and after that with you know,
Speaker 1: new players coming in and a new coach coming in. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, things changed and we're not the same as
Speaker 1: as those years that we were so successful. Do you
Speaker 1: although we didn't keep it beating the Jets. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: never changed. That never changed. We'll take that every year.
Speaker 1: That's like I said, I love I love winning. Beating
Speaker 1: the Jets is the favorite, my favorite day of the year,
Speaker 1: whenever it happened. So all for that, do you have
Speaker 1: a favorite Jets game memory? You know, I can't say,
Speaker 1: um that I do. Um, you know, when you play
Speaker 1: fifteen or sixteen games against the same team, Um, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's forty forty fifty years later. You know, they're
Speaker 1: not things that I vividly remember. You know, I remember
Speaker 1: playing against Joe, which was was fun. But um, you know,
Speaker 1: other than that, you know, it's just getting your job
Speaker 1: done and and um, you know, doing what we're supposed
Speaker 1: to do. And I'm sure you have plenty of these,
Speaker 1: but I also have to ask you, do you have
Speaker 1: a favorite Jake Scott memory something that comes to mind
Speaker 1: immediately as something that really stands out, or maybe just
Speaker 1: something that describes who he was, Like, do you have
Speaker 1: a memory about Jake Scott that really helps helps the
Speaker 1: fans understand who he was or maybe you guys relationship, well,
Speaker 1: I mean our relationship was very very close in those
Speaker 1: days because of what our job was. I mean, um,
Speaker 1: we would kind of we could call he could call
Speaker 1: a defense, and I could move the cornerback and the
Speaker 1: strong linebacker in two different places, UM, and still have
Speaker 1: the same defense. And Jake did that on the week side.
Speaker 1: But we made sure that neither one of us made
Speaker 1: a mistake in work where we were supposed to be.
Speaker 1: To start with um, and then on the punt returns
Speaker 1: is an ex ample. UM, Jake was a deep We
Speaker 1: we didn't go to across. We did one one short
Speaker 1: one back. I was a short guy and he was
Speaker 1: the one that was supposed to catch the ball. And
Speaker 1: my my goal was, no one is ever going to
Speaker 1: touch him. The first guy down is not going to
Speaker 1: touch Jake, so he can catch the ball and and
Speaker 1: and return it. And you know, that's kind of relationship
Speaker 1: we had of get help, get help and give help. UM. So,
Speaker 1: but Jake was very very bright. I mean he was
Speaker 1: tougher than anybody that you can imagine. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: after we finished playing, he would he would kind of
Speaker 1: laugh and said, well, Dick, you you tackled with your shoulders.
Speaker 1: I tackled with my head and so he you know,
Speaker 1: bang bang into the guy. But we also made the tackle.
Speaker 1: One more question here for you, Dick, and you were,
Speaker 1: of course eventually inducted into the Dolphins honor role. I
Speaker 1: wanted to ask. I'd like to ask the alumni this
Speaker 1: what that moment is like for both you and your
Speaker 1: fellow Dolphins alumni, because I'm sure it's pretty special when
Speaker 1: one of your friends and teammates, like a Jake Scott
Speaker 1: for instance, gets inducted. But it's got to be another
Speaker 1: animal when it's you out there being a duck in
Speaker 1: front of all those Dolphins stands right well, it is
Speaker 1: And I mean I you know, a lot of players
Speaker 1: played here and then left and went back home or
Speaker 1: went and moved some place eltse and um, I moved here,
Speaker 1: you know when they drafted being in the nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: eight and I'm still here, um, you know, and so
Speaker 1: uh you know, when you're part of the community and
Speaker 1: you get an award like that to put your name
Speaker 1: up inside the stadium, it's it's pretty special, you know,
Speaker 1: and you know anything better would be uh there in
Speaker 1: in the Hall of fame. But that's you know, that's
Speaker 1: a different story, but it was. You know, it's a
Speaker 1: great time, um, and I can just say it was
Speaker 1: all because of the coaches and the and the teammates.
Speaker 1: What a perfect end too, right there. And you know,
Speaker 1: it's one of my one of my favorite parts about
Speaker 1: being hired by the Dolphins and working here is get
Speaker 1: to talk to legends like yourself, Dick, and and you know,
Speaker 1: I grew up watching the highlight reels and all the
Speaker 1: old school footage of NFL films and the Dolphins were
Speaker 1: such a prominent fixture in those seventies and and later
Speaker 1: of course in the ages with Dame Marino two. But
Speaker 1: just it's cool to be able to hear hear your
Speaker 1: guys voice and hear your experience and now to be
Speaker 1: a part of it as well in the South Florida community.
Speaker 1: Like you mentioned, it's it's very special. So we appreciate
Speaker 1: your time. He played one one career games, you registered
Speaker 1: thirty four interceptions, and in the nineteen seventy two undefeated season,
Speaker 1: you scored a twenty on Pro Football References Approximate value
Speaker 1: metric that's a metric that has an average player at seven,
Speaker 1: so you were almost three times an average player in
Speaker 1: that season, the Dolphins undefeated season. Just some perspective for
Speaker 1: you there, Dick. I really appreciate your time today, sir,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, my pleasure. And so there he
Speaker 1: goes Dolphins legend Dick Anderson, and we turned now to
Speaker 1: I don't know I should we call him another Dolphins
Speaker 1: legend himself. He is here on the Dolphins podcast network.
Speaker 1: I think that I see the smile on the face
Speaker 1: there might say you like that high praise. But we're
Speaker 1: joined by one member of the fish tank today. He
Speaker 1: is Seth Levitt. Seth, how you doing, man? I'm doing great, Travis.
Speaker 1: Post Thanksgiving still is a little hard getting up after
Speaker 1: I had stopped myself last night, but got to spend
Speaker 1: some great time with the family. I hope that you
Speaker 1: did as well, and that everybody who's listening did and
Speaker 1: enjoyed their Thanksgiving as well. Uh. The Dolphins history is
Speaker 1: so rich and so spectacular. Call of me a legend
Speaker 1: is a disservice to all the all the incredible and
Speaker 1: legendary folks that have made this franchise so special. But
Speaker 1: but I appreciate it's very nice to say, well, the
Speaker 1: podcast network has five of us, so I mean, you've
Speaker 1: you got one or five chance, I guess to get
Speaker 1: legendary staff. But then again, you got Bocamper out there too,
Speaker 1: you got Kim both care for no J mcdonlby and
Speaker 1: then me. So yeah, and that's uh, that's me and
Speaker 1: you and you don't even contem exactly, so so we're
Speaker 1: definitely low man on that totem full. Speaking of o J,
Speaker 1: you know, normally I would love to have my partner
Speaker 1: in crime right here by my side on this thing.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's Jets week and he gets a
Speaker 1: little ornery on Jets Week. And if you want him
Speaker 1: to start having flashbacks on his favorite moments with the Jets,
Speaker 1: he just wasn't having it today. You know. That's not
Speaker 1: the way he wanted to end his holiday weekend. So
Speaker 1: he's he's got his game face on right now. He
Speaker 1: calls himself a Dolphins super fan that that definitely rings
Speaker 1: true with his hatred for the Jets there as well.
Speaker 1: So it's it's great to hear. I love seeing you
Speaker 1: guys this promo video for for the Thanksgiving, you know,
Speaker 1: the giving thanks for the fish Tank with you Seth
Speaker 1: and Or you you juice and preach, and you mentioned
Speaker 1: you were buying Marino's pool there is that's still the case.
Speaker 1: Uh No, that was a little I was having a
Speaker 1: little bit of fun, but I hope some folks bought
Speaker 1: into it. I didn't have one of our listeners reach out.
Speaker 1: I'm up here in Orlando, man. I took the family.
Speaker 1: We decided to go in this very non traditional season,
Speaker 1: we would have a non traditional Thanksgiving and spend some
Speaker 1: time in Orlando. My kids, what I feelized is they're
Speaker 1: much rather be running around the theme park than sitting
Speaker 1: at a Thanksgiving table, So maybe we're onto something here. Well, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you guys are having a good time. Like
Speaker 1: you mentioned, my girls are down here as well too,
Speaker 1: So we're hanging out and enjoying our time here in
Speaker 1: South Florida. And I gotta tell you, man, the uh
Speaker 1: eight degrees, it's different for me Thanksgiving. I'm very much
Speaker 1: receptive to that. So. I know a lot of people
Speaker 1: say they missed the seasons and with seasons, but I'm
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what is there to miss. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is season, sunshine, year round, and uh you know
Speaker 1: it's o j I'll tell you, there was no better
Speaker 1: place in the world. You miss about the first ten
Speaker 1: minutes of every car ride being miserable because you're trying
Speaker 1: to warm yourself up the entire time. And I do
Speaker 1: not miss that at all. I don't miss scraping the
Speaker 1: ice off my windshield. I don't miss any of it.
Speaker 1: And my life is laughing as I'm saying this right now.
Speaker 1: She she loves her four seasons. So hey, different jokes,
Speaker 1: different folks. But here we are, well you, We're gonna
Speaker 1: have to work that part out, but we know in
Speaker 1: the Levin household we like one more than there. You go,
Speaker 1: good companies can't go wrong with that. Let's go ahead
Speaker 1: and talk about those Dolphins and Jets rivalry. We had
Speaker 1: Dick Anderson on and he talked a lot about the seventies, obviously,
Speaker 1: and he and Jake Scott were a big part of
Speaker 1: Miami's dominance in that decade. And this this series is
Speaker 1: kind of fascinating because it goes Jets in the sixties
Speaker 1: all the way across the board. Miami pretty much took
Speaker 1: the seventies down almost unanimously, not quite. The eighties and
Speaker 1: nineties were kind of back and forth. There's been some
Speaker 1: runs recently, I wanted to ask you, you know, you
Speaker 1: mentioned being at Brino's pooled the fake spike in four.
Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite Jets memory? Seth. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of them. I mean, that's one of them. Uh there,
Speaker 1: you know, and when you say favorite, there's some memories
Speaker 1: that really stand out, certainly the fake spikes. And that
Speaker 1: was before I started working for the team and and
Speaker 1: just completely in my my uh fanboy world, and that
Speaker 1: was so memorable for so many um when I started
Speaker 1: working for the team, and you know, I'd have to
Speaker 1: go back and look, but I think the Jets had
Speaker 1: won like eight straight at one point against us. They're
Speaker 1: in the in the mid nineties, and I do remember
Speaker 1: finally breaking that street and I remember Rande Gaston walking
Speaker 1: off the field holding a sign and you know, and
Speaker 1: it was like one and oh or something like that,
Speaker 1: and we had started a new streak of our own.
Speaker 1: I think that's part of the reason, you know, we
Speaker 1: talk about O J and his disgust for the Jets,
Speaker 1: and you know, the rivalry really was so rich at
Speaker 1: that point in time. Clearly, there's so many people New
Speaker 1: York that live in South Florida now and so that
Speaker 1: just amplifies that rivalry. But yeah, in those late eighties,
Speaker 1: early to mid nineties, it was ugly, man, it was
Speaker 1: really ugly. Um. So I definitely remember Rande carrying in
Speaker 1: that sign. I unfortunately have nightmares still of the miracle
Speaker 1: of the Meadowlands. Um. That was one that that I'll
Speaker 1: never forget. And and again it's what you know in
Speaker 1: the moment, those things are just devastating. I think when
Speaker 1: you know, decades later and you look back at a career,
Speaker 1: even some of those most difficult times are things that
Speaker 1: stand out and and make your career filling in some way,
Speaker 1: shape or form. Um. So, so that was that was
Speaker 1: a memorable one. But I kind of like the way
Speaker 1: that that we're playing against the Jets these days, and
Speaker 1: hopefully we can get back to those the way things
Speaker 1: were in the seventies. You made a good point there,
Speaker 1: because it wouldn't be an intense rivalry if you won
Speaker 1: every game. It would just be the step child of
Speaker 1: the of the rival where you know, so having those
Speaker 1: losses makes the winds that much better as well. And
Speaker 1: you mentioned that winning streak that was broken, the Jets
Speaker 1: winning streak that was broken. I'll never forget that one
Speaker 1: bye Bye Ricky bye bye streak was what the the
Speaker 1: the the play by play I'm blanking on his name.
Speaker 1: Maybe you can help me out here, but his the
Speaker 1: play by play man had had said that emphatically, and
Speaker 1: that was a fun moment as Ricky raised into the
Speaker 1: to the end zone for his third straight one yard game,
Speaker 1: a couple of touchdowns as well. There that's as I
Speaker 1: talked about all the time, that's my like favorite era
Speaker 1: as a fan. And it's funny because you know, Dick
Speaker 1: mentioned when I had him on the podcast right before
Speaker 1: you jumped on that there wasn't really a contentious nature
Speaker 1: to the rivalry in the seventies and maybe that was
Speaker 1: because the Jets won the sixties the Dolphins won the seventies.
Speaker 1: But then, like we talked about, it became a little
Speaker 1: more or you know, back and forth. And was that
Speaker 1: when I started to get cranked up because for me,
Speaker 1: again the Rex Ryan era and my favorite memory was
Speaker 1: that twenty ten Sunday Night game where Chad Henny found
Speaker 1: ted gain and beat Durrell Reeves for the long touchdown
Speaker 1: pass and we beat them in prime time and maybe
Speaker 1: it was Monday night football at one of the two
Speaker 1: I forget, but that was my favorite one because Rex
Speaker 1: Ryan was just so he brought so much victual to
Speaker 1: the to the rivalry and he really he did it
Speaker 1: back up in my opinion to get like where I
Speaker 1: just couldn't stand those guys. So that was my favorite time.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's like I said, arrived with it
Speaker 1: has gone back and forth several times. And in that
Speaker 1: same era was a guy that you guys just had
Speaker 1: on the fish Tank podcast and Devon Best, and you know,
Speaker 1: I want to just jump into that real quick here
Speaker 1: stat before we get out of here. On this Black
Speaker 1: Friday Thanksgiving special of the Flashback podcast, you guys had
Speaker 1: Davon Best on the fish Tank and man, what an
Speaker 1: episode that was. Yeah, thank you Devon was was phenomenal.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I had a chance to work
Speaker 1: with Devon a little bit. Um, I was already working
Speaker 1: with the Foundation, but but we helped him out with
Speaker 1: the Best Route Foundation and just a special, special individual.
Speaker 1: And at that point in time, you would see how
Speaker 1: the difficult times that he had growing up, having served
Speaker 1: time right out of high school for making a decision
Speaker 1: that he wished he could have back, um, you know,
Speaker 1: years later and how that almost derailed his career that
Speaker 1: we saw for a guy his size to make it
Speaker 1: to the NFL, even if he had no challenges, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just you've already beaten the eyes. You look at
Speaker 1: the team grants and and and the smaller players that
Speaker 1: have come through here in the West Welkers. You know
Speaker 1: already those guys in theory aren't supposed to make it
Speaker 1: to the league. So Divion already had enough going, you know,
Speaker 1: with size and speed going against him. Uh and then
Speaker 1: you you throw in all these other things. And for
Speaker 1: a guy that to make it to the level that
Speaker 1: he didn't have the length of the career that he had,
Speaker 1: clearly that's a supreme talent. You know, you don't get
Speaker 1: that far at that size in this league without being
Speaker 1: supremely talented. But there was so much he had to overcome.
Speaker 1: And what was so wonderful is that that he was
Speaker 1: willing to share that. And then, unfortunately, at the tail
Speaker 1: end of his career and then after his career, Davon
Speaker 1: had some um, some difficult times. Uh and and there
Speaker 1: were some some mental health issues that you know, we
Speaker 1: talked about on our show before and again for him
Speaker 1: to come on and to be so open and so
Speaker 1: candid and so vulnerable. Um. And it was important to
Speaker 1: him that Dolphins fans heard his story. You know, he
Speaker 1: did not like the idea that dolphin fans had that
Speaker 1: whatever happened to Gavon best um mentality and not nothing
Speaker 1: against them, but they just didn't know. And and so
Speaker 1: he wanted to be able to share that. So I
Speaker 1: appreciate it was a real special episode for us. Uh.
Speaker 1: We love being able to have Davon on and and
Speaker 1: most importantly, he seems to be doing great, and so
Speaker 1: that was really great to see that. His spirit and
Speaker 1: his energy and his understanding of what he needs to
Speaker 1: do to keep himself healthy physically and mentally. Uh kind,
Speaker 1: all those things are quick. Yeah you said that, perfect
Speaker 1: right theory, because I thought it was awesome to hear
Speaker 1: his perspective about that moment, removed from that moment where
Speaker 1: he could look back and be honest with himself and
Speaker 1: and talk about it candidly that way. Just really special podcast,
Speaker 1: I thought. And you know, I wanted to mention to
Speaker 1: you and Juice, it's too bad we don't have money today,
Speaker 1: but I wanted to tell you guys, just thank you
Speaker 1: because you've had him and Brandon Marshall on two of
Speaker 1: the last three episodes, and I've I've told you plenty
Speaker 1: of times before that I'm a big proponent of taking
Speaker 1: care of your mental health. It's it's a a topic
Speaker 1: that hits close to home for me and my family.
Speaker 1: We've we've had tragedy and my family over mental health,
Speaker 1: you know, shortcomings. And so to to hear you guys,
Speaker 1: put those guys on that platform and to give them
Speaker 1: that that room to speak, and it's it's really cool, man.
Speaker 1: It's it's cool what you guys are doing. It's it's
Speaker 1: fun to get away from the football side of things
Speaker 1: and hear about things that are really really important. And
Speaker 1: Devaun and Brandon we're just awesome that way. So thank you, guys.
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm trying to say here on thanks listen,
Speaker 1: Thank you Travis. I appreciate you saying that. And again,
Speaker 1: we like to tell stories that aren't the normal XS
Speaker 1: and os, and a lot of times those are fun
Speaker 1: and and some crazy stories, and I know you love
Speaker 1: the Crowder episodes, but sometimes those stories aren't as fun,
Speaker 1: and sometimes those stories are difficult to tell. But when
Speaker 1: guys are able to tell them and and to grab
Speaker 1: ahold of what had happened and reflect and to build
Speaker 1: upon that. Um. They're inspired, you know in the revealing,
Speaker 1: and they're very human and so um. So we we
Speaker 1: enjoyed being able to be in that position. Uh, that's
Speaker 1: that's for sure, um, you know. And I also wanted
Speaker 1: to say, as we're talking about the Jet rivalry and
Speaker 1: you would ask about how far is it go back,
Speaker 1: it's funny to hear you talk about the Rex Ryan
Speaker 1: years for a couple of reasons. One, you know, as
Speaker 1: a kid, I was raised that you don't like the Jets,
Speaker 1: you don't like the Jets fans, you're not associated. We
Speaker 1: had my my stepdad had a fire a babysitter over him.
Speaker 1: He was some finger waving about, you know, because he
Speaker 1: was a big Jets fan in New York. And my
Speaker 1: mother was like, well who else gonna watch here? Watch
Speaker 1: that son now. But we had to fire him, you know,
Speaker 1: because his Jets fanom was just too much. And that's
Speaker 1: what I was raised in and and understandably so. But uh,
Speaker 1: in those Rex Ryan years, he happened to recruit a
Speaker 1: guy that I'm pretty close to, and that's my Boss
Speaker 1: and Jason Taylor, and so I tried to sneak out
Speaker 1: of it, but I guess it's hard for me avoid it.
Speaker 1: And and so as you know, Jason in two thousands
Speaker 1: ten spent the season with the Jets. I had a
Speaker 1: great season, and not that he cared about this or
Speaker 1: anybody did, but it put me in this great place
Speaker 1: of conflicts and I had to figure out. You know,
Speaker 1: it was very difficult to have to root for my
Speaker 1: guy and he got so close to achieving his ultimate
Speaker 1: goal UM, and it was weird watching and rooting in
Speaker 1: those games, but also obviously wanting the Dolphins to be
Speaker 1: uh to win every game as well. So so those
Speaker 1: were some challenging time. Going to a Dolphins Jets game
Speaker 1: with Jason wearing Jets colors UM was incredibly challenging. I
Speaker 1: wore a Jason Taylor Foundation shirt that day because I
Speaker 1: could not show allegiance to the Jets, but I had
Speaker 1: to show allegiance to my guy. So so yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of different layers personally to this rivalry,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure that every Dolphins fan has their own
Speaker 1: relationship to h to this rivalry UM, and it's deep
Speaker 1: rooted and it's what makes this game so special. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. The MetLife takeover is really fun to see,
Speaker 1: at least from a farm, and I've been to it myself,
Speaker 1: but to see it every year, and to know that
Speaker 1: there's so many Dolphins fans in that area, you have
Speaker 1: to imagine a big Dan Marino influence there. Just like
Speaker 1: you mentioned there's the transplants in South Florida from New York.
Speaker 1: There are people that are Dolphins fans up in the
Speaker 1: Jersey area as well too. So hey, we gotta coming
Speaker 1: up on Sunday, a chance to sweep them, a chance
Speaker 1: to get back to even fifty five games a piece
Speaker 1: for either side. I would love to have that happen.
Speaker 1: Would love to get that seventh win of the season.
Speaker 1: We talked about the Devon best episode coming up for
Speaker 1: you guys, or that's already in the can for you guys.
Speaker 1: Charles Jordan's up next. So actually we're gonna take a
Speaker 1: little break from the players. And Dave Cross, the the
Speaker 1: old team photographer for years for decades, covering the Dolphins
Speaker 1: from the seventies, um for for decades and the guy
Speaker 1: I got to work with. Dave's got some funny stories.
Speaker 1: First of all, he just you know, the images. So
Speaker 1: many of the images that Dolphin fans have seen for
Speaker 1: all of these years were taken through Dave's lens, and
Speaker 1: so that's really special. But he has some behind the
Speaker 1: scenes stories with the Shulas which were a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Um and Dave is famous, his most famous for uh,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say he's most famous for. He would really
Speaker 1: be upset with that. But he one time had an
Speaker 1: incident where we took photos of the headshots of the
Speaker 1: coaches and Jimmy Johnson's first year, and after all the
Speaker 1: coaches were done, including Jimmy, Dave realized he had no
Speaker 1: film in the camera and it was not a pretty site.
Speaker 1: That was not a pretty sight. So he talked about
Speaker 1: that writing Harley Davidson's with Dave wants that Dave has
Speaker 1: a lot of amazing stories and so we had a
Speaker 1: lot of fun with Dave. But then yes, after that, um,
Speaker 1: we did have a chance to sit down with Charles
Speaker 1: Jordan's probably not a name that a lot of Dolphin
Speaker 1: fans remember, but Charles another unlikely story of a guy
Speaker 1: who was um in the l a gang scene and
Speaker 1: so and barely played college football, but yet somehow got
Speaker 1: a multimillion dollar contract as a free agent coming to
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. In Charles story is amazing. Man, you can't
Speaker 1: go wrong with that. You guys are on a roll
Speaker 1: right now cranking out those fantastic episodes. Check out the
Speaker 1: Fish Tank here on the Miami Dolphins podcast network. I've
Speaker 1: got Seth level with me here on this Black Friday
Speaker 1: edition of the Drive Time Podcast. Seth, I appreciate as always. Man,
Speaker 1: go back to your family, go back to the pool
Speaker 1: and the and get some sunshine. My friend. You do
Speaker 1: the same, Travis. And if you see Jelling we're looking
Speaker 1: for he's out there working on the fake spike round
Speaker 1: or something by himself. You get trying and beat the
Speaker 1: jets again. I don't know he's sleeping off exactly all right,
Speaker 1: So be well, my friend, Thank you so much. Take
Speaker 1: care And so there he goes Seth Levitt of the
Speaker 1: Fish Tank podcast again. Check out the Devon Best episode,
Speaker 1: Dave Cross coming up, and Charles Jordan. Man, they've got
Speaker 1: some good stuff coming on the pipeline for you guys
Speaker 1: there on the Fish Tank. As for a Drive Time,
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