WEBVTT - Fins Flashback | Dolphins Jets Rivalry with Dick Anderson

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<v Speaker 1>Field touchdown, Miami most Water run. What is up, Dolphans

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<v Speaker 1>And welcome to the Drive Time Podcast, part of the

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<v Speaker 1>each and every day. How's it going everybody? It is Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope you all had a great Thanksgiving. I am your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Travis Wingfield, and I am here to bring you your

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<v Speaker 1>daily dose of Miami Dolphins football. And on today's show,

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<v Speaker 1>with a trip to the Metal Lands on the Horizon,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go way back and get to the origin

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<v Speaker 1>of the Dolphins Jets rivalry with Dick Anderson. Plus, Dick

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<v Speaker 1>will help us pay tribute to his longtime friend and

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<v Speaker 1>safety running mate in the late great Super Bowl seven

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<v Speaker 1>m v P in Jake Scott. All of that more

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go ahead and start this podcast off as

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<v Speaker 1>we do every Friday, with the latest injury report for

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<v Speaker 1>Dolphins and Jets one o'clock Eastern on Sunday afternoon. Two

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<v Speaker 1>players are out in rookie Solomon Kinley and Savan Akhmed

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<v Speaker 1>they will miss the games Sunday against the Jets. A

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<v Speaker 1>pair of players are questionable and quarterback to a tongue

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<v Speaker 1>Byloa and wide receiver Jachim Grant and Brian Flores also

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<v Speaker 1>said the Dolphins might be able to get Miles gascon

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<v Speaker 1>back off the injured reserve. They will find out, evaluate

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<v Speaker 1>and make a decision over the weekend. For the Jets,

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback Sam Donald's going to start the game on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>He missed the previous three with an injury. And before

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<v Speaker 1>we get to Dick Anderson, here real quick a reminder

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<v Speaker 1>to let you know to check out the preview content

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<v Speaker 1>up on Miami Dolphins dot com as well as Wednesday's

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<v Speaker 1>Drive Time podcast redove deep into the numbers, the scheme,

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<v Speaker 1>everything you want to know about the New York Jets

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<v Speaker 1>before this game on Sunday with them and you're Miami Dolphins.

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<v Speaker 1>as the Written Element, our weekly feature. Plenty of content

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<v Speaker 1>for you guys on Miami Dolphins dot com and joining

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<v Speaker 1>me now on the Drive Time Podcast is a Dolphins legend,

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<v Speaker 1>three time Pro bowler, two time All Pro, two time

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<v Speaker 1>World Champion, member of the nineteen seventies All Decade Team

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen seventy three Rookie of the Year, Dick Anderson. Dick,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome in, sir, Thank you very much, very happy to

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<v Speaker 1>have you today. We we always love to start these

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<v Speaker 1>podcasts off with the alumni by asking, and you had

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<v Speaker 1>told me earlier you were going back to your office.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you up to these days? Well, I've had

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<v Speaker 1>a insurances my first year of playing for the Dolphins,

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<v Speaker 1>and so the players used to give me a hard

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<v Speaker 1>time because I'd be going to my office. And about

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of my career, they didn't give me

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<v Speaker 1>a hard time anymore. They wished they had done the same.

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<v Speaker 1>So they actually told that same story on the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>Network America's Game series the NFL Film series about you

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<v Speaker 1>going out to the trunk of your car during practice

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<v Speaker 1>or during meetings or in between breaks, I should say

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<v Speaker 1>where you would go out there and take phone calls.

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<v Speaker 1>That that's an accurate depiction. Uh, yeah, that is accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually had a car phone in those days. It

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<v Speaker 1>had a cord on it and in a box in

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<v Speaker 1>the back of the of the the trunk that was

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<v Speaker 1>about three ft long and a foot high. And and

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<v Speaker 1>uh so I could sit there and dial numbers. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the one of the players was walking across

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<v Speaker 1>the parking lot when he was a rookie and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in my pads, sitting in the front seat of my

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<v Speaker 1>car and with talking on a telephone. He took that.

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<v Speaker 1>He still reminds me of that. I have so many

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<v Speaker 1>questions here, Dick, because first I'm curious. Uh you had

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<v Speaker 1>to have used like, hey, this is Dick answer for

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<v Speaker 1>the dolphin, like I'm sure you use that in your

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<v Speaker 1>sales pitch, right, you had to live well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>from my standpoint, if they knew who I was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I could get to the decision maker quicker. And that

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<v Speaker 1>really and I was in those days. I was selling

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<v Speaker 1>um credit insurance to banks and and automobile dealers throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the state of Florida, And so you know, by the

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<v Speaker 1>second or third year, I was making a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>more money doing that. I was playing football, But the

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<v Speaker 1>football got me in the door. You can't have one

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<v Speaker 1>without the other, right, It's kind of the the the

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<v Speaker 1>unit yang right there. Did did Sula ever get on

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<v Speaker 1>your case for for doing that? Or was he supportive? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>How did that relationship work? As far as having that

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<v Speaker 1>second job? Um, I tried not to publicize it at all. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we had Monday's off, and I'd always work

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<v Speaker 1>on Mondays, and you know, when practice got over, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>go back to my office usually just you know, clean

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<v Speaker 1>up things and um. But you know, it was seemingly

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<v Speaker 1>able to to do that, you know, and not to

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<v Speaker 1>make a big deal of it. What was the car

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<v Speaker 1>phone a rarity? Like? Did your teammates have the same

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<v Speaker 1>set up with they bothered you to come use your phone? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>How did that work? No, they really didn't bother me

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<v Speaker 1>to come use the phone. There was one in the

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<v Speaker 1>Actually the reason I was in my car was I

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<v Speaker 1>used to be on the pay phone in the locker

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<v Speaker 1>room and Sheila kicked me off of that. There you go, Sheila,

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<v Speaker 1>she was not gonna have any of that for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a that's a great story, right there, A good

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<v Speaker 1>reason we love to have these flashback or the alumni

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<v Speaker 1>here on the Flashback Friday edition of the Draft Time podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go ahead and get to the reason we have

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<v Speaker 1>Yawn here for a couple of reasons. Actually, One, it's

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<v Speaker 1>Jets week. We always loved talking about possibly beating the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Jets. But also we lost another legend here

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<v Speaker 1>last week. Dick and Jake Scott, the m v P

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<v Speaker 1>of Super Bowl seven, your teammate safety running mate, you

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<v Speaker 1>know as it were, from nineteen seventy to nineteen seventy five.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just kind of give you the floor here first,

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<v Speaker 1>Dick and just let you tell us who Jake Scott

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<v Speaker 1>was as a foot ballplayer, but also as a man. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Scott was an absolutely great safety. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>was All Pro five times and in the big games

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<v Speaker 1>he had big plays. Um and so um. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>part of our success was really the fact that Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Arnsberger was our defensive coach and we never questioned a

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<v Speaker 1>defense that he had. UM. And I tell the story

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<v Speaker 1>that Joe Namath every time I see him cusses at me.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, you blankly blank, guys, were never where you're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be, and bake and I would take a

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<v Speaker 1>false step and then twirl and go back to a

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<v Speaker 1>different place on the field. And you know he had

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<v Speaker 1>the register that in the game that he never left

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<v Speaker 1>me to forget it. But uh, I don't let him

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<v Speaker 1>forget it either. So you guys would kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>bait the quarterback. Then, right, how did that work? As

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<v Speaker 1>far as the way you communicate. You have to have

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<v Speaker 1>a great relationship together to be able to pull that off,

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't you. Well, we were very fortunate to have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of bright players, and Nick Monacani said, well, we

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<v Speaker 1>made eight mental airs the whole season, And so the

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<v Speaker 1>whole key to a defense is that we had we

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<v Speaker 1>lined up the same no matter whether it was a

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<v Speaker 1>blitz or his own or a man coverage, and so

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback had to read us on the snap. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and if every player was going where they needed to be, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a lot easier to cover people. And

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<v Speaker 1>so um, you know, we we played as a team

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<v Speaker 1>that way. Jake and I played that way, UM, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of the main reasons for the success we had.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, in seventy two we had a hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>sixty five point scored against us. In seventy three we

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<v Speaker 1>had a hundred and fifty points scored against it. So

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<v Speaker 1>the other team doesn't score, you can't lose. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>it goes, a fun recipe for success and obviously back

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<v Speaker 1>to back world championships there. But I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>get back into the rivalry here between the Dolphins and

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets, because on Sunday, Miami travels to New York

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<v Speaker 1>looking to get to seven and four for the current team,

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<v Speaker 1>and during your time with you and Jake's got back there,

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<v Speaker 1>the Dolphins were ten and two against those Jets in

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<v Speaker 1>those seasons, and we continue that run of dominance in

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<v Speaker 1>the seventies over the Jets after you guys had left

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Can you help educate fans here? What was

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<v Speaker 1>it about that matchup with the Dolphins and Jets in

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<v Speaker 1>the seventies that made Miami so dominant? Well, I think

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<v Speaker 1>number one, it was the coaches, uh COACHLA and what

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<v Speaker 1>he demanded of you um and then on defense, Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Arnsberger was brilliant and so you know from our standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we had a lot of bright players. So

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<v Speaker 1>when you don't make mistakes and and you can all

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't have injuries, and we had we lost

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<v Speaker 1>very very few players to injuries in those in those

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<v Speaker 1>five years. And so you know, part of it was

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that we played as a team. We um

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have injuries. Everybody did the job that they needed

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<v Speaker 1>to do. And you know, the coaching was was superb

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<v Speaker 1>and so you know, it sounds kind of simple, but

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<v Speaker 1>it it is. Was how we reacted and how we played.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Jake Scott was a brilliant player and and

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<v Speaker 1>Jake would make great plays on in the big games.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, um, remember remember we're playing the championship game

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<v Speaker 1>against John Unitus and I had intercepted a past and

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<v Speaker 1>Jake made the first block, knocked the guy sideways and

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<v Speaker 1>and then I had six perfect blocks during during that

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<v Speaker 1>run and scored. But those are the kind of games

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, Jake and I would would play well.

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<v Speaker 1>And and I mean with his two interceptions in one

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl and you know two and you know long

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<v Speaker 1>runs and another one. Um, you know, we were we

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<v Speaker 1>were prepared and we had a great team to play

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<v Speaker 1>with us. You know, I find it really commendable how

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<v Speaker 1>how willing you are to pass the buck for credit there,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, in modern football, that's that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the coaches speaking, the players speak, right, they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>give cred their teammates and say the right things. But

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<v Speaker 1>here we are, you know, some forty fifty years later,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're still giving those guys all the credit. Dick. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a team, and you know, when you

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<v Speaker 1>don't make mistakes, you're gonna play better. And so the

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<v Speaker 1>other the other thing that's interests me in the game,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd make a tackle, you know, and we'd make tackle

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<v Speaker 1>by ourselves. And today, you know, when a guys getting tackled,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got six people banging on him, and that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a couple of differences in the game today. One is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when they have five and stix receivers going out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's tougher, much tougher playing his own defense.

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<v Speaker 1>And we had basically three receivers going out. So you

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<v Speaker 1>know the game has changed from that standpoint. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the players have certainly gotten bigger. I think our biggest

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<v Speaker 1>player would wage to seventy today. You know, yesterday watching

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<v Speaker 1>TV guys with three forty five and know it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit different game today. Yeah, I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>certainly every And by the fact that you were going

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<v Speaker 1>to the office after practice, I think that would be

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a little bit frowned upon these days. But like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, different eras and it it creates for a

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<v Speaker 1>fun conversation, especially for you know, a younger fan like

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<v Speaker 1>myself who doesn't have that, you know, intimate connection. It's

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<v Speaker 1>always fun to hear your stories about the way the

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<v Speaker 1>game was different. So throughout the other the other side

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<v Speaker 1>it was different. I asked this question to a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people. I said, I was the third round raft

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<v Speaker 1>choice in nineteen sixty eight. What was my first salary?

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<v Speaker 1>What was it? I want to I want you to guess,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm definitely about to reverse age myself here. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna guess, uh, eight thousand. Well, you're about six times

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<v Speaker 1>more than the fifteen that I made. Really rookie of

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<v Speaker 1>the Rookie of the Year, and the next year I

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<v Speaker 1>made seventeen five, So defensive rookie the year making seventeen five,

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<v Speaker 1>So you had you had to have a second job.

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<v Speaker 1>Then that was really why we were working. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody had a summer job, and we didn't have any

0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:07.400
<v Speaker 1>summer practices, so you know, we we'd come when the

0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:09.720
<v Speaker 1>training camp started and we played the season, and we

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of players didn't stay in Miami. They go

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<v Speaker 1>back to home, and so it was a different world

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<v Speaker 1>back then. So you obviously play for the love of

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<v Speaker 1>the game. But was there at least tell me there

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<v Speaker 1>was some added perks, Like did you guys get free

0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:25.320
<v Speaker 1>comps at restaurants? Are Like? Did you get that fan fare?

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<v Speaker 1>Were rock stars in South Florida? At least tell me

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<v Speaker 1>there was something else there was help Once we started

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<v Speaker 1>winning then certainly, you know, there were there were things

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<v Speaker 1>that people if the people knew you, they'd treat you

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<v Speaker 1>better than if they didn't know yet. So yeah, there

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<v Speaker 1>were there were a lot of advantages, um, not only

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<v Speaker 1>in business, but um, you know, just in living in

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<v Speaker 1>a community when we were when we were particularly winning

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<v Speaker 1>games and winning Super Bowls. I can't believe how far

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<v Speaker 1>off I was, Dick. I'm a little bit embarrassed to

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<v Speaker 1>be honest with you at this moment. But yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>why we've got exactly that's why I've got you on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast here, and I've been asking you throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>course of the interview to help us younger fans kind

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<v Speaker 1>of educate us. And I'm curious because you know, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you about the way the rivalry is today. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>for me, when it was Rex Ryan for the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>going up against the Dolphins, those games were always so

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<v Speaker 1>contested and contentious and and so physical and fun to

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<v Speaker 1>watch because we did not like those guys. I'm curious

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<v Speaker 1>from your end back in the seventies and you can

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<v Speaker 1>maybe help us younger fans understand where it all started.

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<v Speaker 1>What was it about the Jets and Dolphins rivalry that

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<v Speaker 1>made it so so contentious and maybe maybe what it

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<v Speaker 1>is today. Well, I don't think it was so contentious

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<v Speaker 1>back then, but um, you know we played him in

0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:40.080
<v Speaker 1>those games. You know years you had fewer games in

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<v Speaker 1>our conference. Um, you know, we had two conferences rather

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<v Speaker 1>than three, you know, on both sides, and so we

0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:52.040
<v Speaker 1>played the Jets twice a year every year, and we

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<v Speaker 1>played New England Buffalo um and the Jets um two times.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, you know, you get in front of him

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<v Speaker 1>more more than normal. And with the all the notoriety

0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.600
<v Speaker 1>that Joe Namath you know got and he was a

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<v Speaker 1>heck of a player. We ratcheted up as much as

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<v Speaker 1>we could when we when we played the Jets, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there were no big fights and there was

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<v Speaker 1>no you know other than we we would win the game. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just you know, it's it's a different time frame

0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:28.320
<v Speaker 1>right now there there's certainly a lot more um, you know,

0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:32.320
<v Speaker 1>fights and shoving and that sort of thing going on

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm watching games today. Um. Then, you know then

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<v Speaker 1>when we played you mentioned Joe dan with a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of times there. How many times did you play against

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<v Speaker 1>him in your career? Do you like a ballpark estimate,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say, fifteen or sixteen times. So do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like you kind of had a good beat

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<v Speaker 1>on what he was and what his game was and

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<v Speaker 1>that Jets offense then because you saw him so much

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<v Speaker 1>well and it it actually changed, Um, you know when

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<v Speaker 1>when Jake went on and went to Washington and um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know we had players leave when Zaki kick and

0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Warfield left. You know, the glory years were you know,

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<v Speaker 1>seventy one to seventy five and after that with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>new players coming in and a new coach coming in. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, things changed and we're not the same as

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<v Speaker 1>as those years that we were so successful. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>although we didn't keep it beating the Jets. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>never changed. That never changed. We'll take that every year.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like I said, I love I love winning. Beating

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets is the favorite, my favorite day of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>whenever it happened. So all for that, do you have

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<v Speaker 1>a favorite Jets game memory? You know, I can't say,

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<v Speaker 1>um that I do. Um, you know, when you play

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen or sixteen games against the same team, Um, you know,

0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:55.400
<v Speaker 1>it's it's forty forty fifty years later. You know, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not things that I vividly remember. You know, I remember

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<v Speaker 1>playing against Joe, which was was fun. But um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>other than that, you know, it's just getting your job

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<v Speaker 1>done and and um, you know, doing what we're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to do. And I'm sure you have plenty of these,

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<v Speaker 1>but I also have to ask you, do you have

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<v Speaker 1>a favorite Jake Scott memory something that comes to mind

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<v Speaker 1>immediately as something that really stands out, or maybe just

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<v Speaker 1>something that describes who he was, Like, do you have

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<v Speaker 1>a memory about Jake Scott that really helps helps the

0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:27.320
<v Speaker 1>fans understand who he was or maybe you guys relationship, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean our relationship was very very close in those

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<v Speaker 1>days because of what our job was. I mean, um,

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<v Speaker 1>we would kind of we could call he could call

0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:40.880
<v Speaker 1>a defense, and I could move the cornerback and the

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<v Speaker 1>strong linebacker in two different places, UM, and still have

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<v Speaker 1>the same defense. And Jake did that on the week side.

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<v Speaker 1>But we made sure that neither one of us made

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<v Speaker 1>a mistake in work where we were supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 1>To start with um, and then on the punt returns

0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:02.640
<v Speaker 1>is an ex ample. UM, Jake was a deep We

0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.800
<v Speaker 1>we didn't go to across. We did one one short

0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:08.520
<v Speaker 1>one back. I was a short guy and he was

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<v Speaker 1>the one that was supposed to catch the ball. And

0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:14.600
<v Speaker 1>my my goal was, no one is ever going to

0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:16.360
<v Speaker 1>touch him. The first guy down is not going to

0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:19.480
<v Speaker 1>touch Jake, so he can catch the ball and and

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<v Speaker 1>and return it. And you know, that's kind of relationship

0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:29.919
<v Speaker 1>we had of get help, get help and give help. UM. So,

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<v Speaker 1>but Jake was very very bright. I mean he was

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<v Speaker 1>tougher than anybody that you can imagine. Um. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>after we finished playing, he would he would kind of

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<v Speaker 1>laugh and said, well, Dick, you you tackled with your shoulders.

0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I tackled with my head and so he you know,

0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:50.080
<v Speaker 1>bang bang into the guy. But we also made the tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>One more question here for you, Dick, and you were,

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<v Speaker 1>of course eventually inducted into the Dolphins honor role. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to ask. I'd like to ask the alumni this

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<v Speaker 1>what that moment is like for both you and your

0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:03.600
<v Speaker 1>fellow Dolphins alumni, because I'm sure it's pretty special when

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<v Speaker 1>one of your friends and teammates, like a Jake Scott

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, gets inducted. But it's got to be another

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<v Speaker 1>animal when it's you out there being a duck in

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<v Speaker 1>front of all those Dolphins stands right well, it is

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean I you know, a lot of players

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<v Speaker 1>played here and then left and went back home or

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<v Speaker 1>went and moved some place eltse and um, I moved here,

0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:25.640
<v Speaker 1>you know when they drafted being in the nineteen sixty

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<v Speaker 1>eight and I'm still here, um, you know, and so

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<v Speaker 1>uh you know, when you're part of the community and

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<v Speaker 1>you get an award like that to put your name

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<v Speaker 1>up inside the stadium, it's it's pretty special, you know,

0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:40.359
<v Speaker 1>and you know anything better would be uh there in

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<v Speaker 1>in the Hall of fame. But that's you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a different story, but it was. You know, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>great time, um, and I can just say it was

0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:53.720
<v Speaker 1>all because of the coaches and the and the teammates.

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<v Speaker 1>What a perfect end too, right there. And you know,

0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:57.840
<v Speaker 1>it's one of my one of my favorite parts about

0:18:57.840 --> 0:18:59.920
<v Speaker 1>being hired by the Dolphins and working here is get

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to legends like yourself, Dick, and and you know,

0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I grew up watching the highlight reels and all the

0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:07.879
<v Speaker 1>old school footage of NFL films and the Dolphins were

0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:10.480
<v Speaker 1>such a prominent fixture in those seventies and and later

0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:12.080
<v Speaker 1>of course in the ages with Dame Marino two. But

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<v Speaker 1>just it's cool to be able to hear hear your

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<v Speaker 1>guys voice and hear your experience and now to be

0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:18.880
<v Speaker 1>a part of it as well in the South Florida community.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you mentioned, it's it's very special. So we appreciate

0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:24.680
<v Speaker 1>your time. He played one one career games, you registered

0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:28.280
<v Speaker 1>thirty four interceptions, and in the nineteen seventy two undefeated season,

0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:32.600
<v Speaker 1>you scored a twenty on Pro Football References Approximate value

0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:36.760
<v Speaker 1>metric that's a metric that has an average player at seven,

0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:39.800
<v Speaker 1>so you were almost three times an average player in

0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:42.600
<v Speaker 1>that season, the Dolphins undefeated season. Just some perspective for

0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:44.760
<v Speaker 1>you there, Dick. I really appreciate your time today, sir,

0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, my pleasure. And so there he

0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:51.040
<v Speaker 1>goes Dolphins legend Dick Anderson, and we turned now to

0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:53.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't know I should we call him another Dolphins

0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:56.000
<v Speaker 1>legend himself. He is here on the Dolphins podcast network.

0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that I see the smile on the face

0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:00.800
<v Speaker 1>there might say you like that high praise. But we're

0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:02.919
<v Speaker 1>joined by one member of the fish tank today. He

0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:06.800
<v Speaker 1>is Seth Levitt. Seth, how you doing, man? I'm doing great, Travis.

0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Post Thanksgiving still is a little hard getting up after

0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:12.760
<v Speaker 1>I had stopped myself last night, but got to spend

0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:14.760
<v Speaker 1>some great time with the family. I hope that you

0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:17.560
<v Speaker 1>did as well, and that everybody who's listening did and

0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:21.479
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed their Thanksgiving as well. Uh. The Dolphins history is

0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:25.920
<v Speaker 1>so rich and so spectacular. Call of me a legend

0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:29.800
<v Speaker 1>is a disservice to all the all the incredible and

0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:33.080
<v Speaker 1>legendary folks that have made this franchise so special. But

0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:35.600
<v Speaker 1>but I appreciate it's very nice to say, well, the

0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:38.720
<v Speaker 1>podcast network has five of us, so I mean, you've

0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:40.280
<v Speaker 1>you got one or five chance, I guess to get

0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:42.639
<v Speaker 1>legendary staff. But then again, you got Bocamper out there too,

0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:45.080
<v Speaker 1>you got Kim both care for no J mcdonlby and

0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:48.080
<v Speaker 1>then me. So yeah, and that's uh, that's me and

0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:52.360
<v Speaker 1>you and you don't even contem exactly, so so we're

0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:55.679
<v Speaker 1>definitely low man on that totem full. Speaking of o J,

0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:58.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, normally I would love to have my partner

0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:00.400
<v Speaker 1>in crime right here by my side on this thing.

0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:02.840
<v Speaker 1>But you know, it's Jets week and he gets a

0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:04.919
<v Speaker 1>little ornery on Jets Week. And if you want him

0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:07.919
<v Speaker 1>to start having flashbacks on his favorite moments with the Jets,

0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:09.800
<v Speaker 1>he just wasn't having it today. You know. That's not

0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:12.080
<v Speaker 1>the way he wanted to end his holiday weekend. So

0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:15.280
<v Speaker 1>he's he's got his game face on right now. He

0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:18.359
<v Speaker 1>calls himself a Dolphins super fan that that definitely rings

0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:20.280
<v Speaker 1>true with his hatred for the Jets there as well.

0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:22.760
<v Speaker 1>So it's it's great to hear. I love seeing you

0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:25.560
<v Speaker 1>guys this promo video for for the Thanksgiving, you know,

0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:27.520
<v Speaker 1>the giving thanks for the fish Tank with you Seth

0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:30.879
<v Speaker 1>and Or you you juice and preach, and you mentioned

0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:32.920
<v Speaker 1>you were buying Marino's pool there is that's still the case.

0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:36.119
<v Speaker 1>Uh No, that was a little I was having a

0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:38.720
<v Speaker 1>little bit of fun, but I hope some folks bought

0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:41.320
<v Speaker 1>into it. I didn't have one of our listeners reach out.

0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:44.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm up here in Orlando, man. I took the family.

0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:48.200
<v Speaker 1>We decided to go in this very non traditional season,

0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:51.200
<v Speaker 1>we would have a non traditional Thanksgiving and spend some

0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:53.960
<v Speaker 1>time in Orlando. My kids, what I feelized is they're

0:21:54.040 --> 0:21:56.399
<v Speaker 1>much rather be running around the theme park than sitting

0:21:56.600 --> 0:21:59.800
<v Speaker 1>at a Thanksgiving table, So maybe we're onto something here. Well, hey,

0:22:00.000 --> 0:22:01.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you guys are having a good time. Like

0:22:01.359 --> 0:22:03.400
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned, my girls are down here as well too,

0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:05.679
<v Speaker 1>So we're hanging out and enjoying our time here in

0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:07.760
<v Speaker 1>South Florida. And I gotta tell you, man, the uh

0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:11.320
<v Speaker 1>eight degrees, it's different for me Thanksgiving. I'm very much

0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:15.080
<v Speaker 1>receptive to that. So. I know a lot of people

0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:19.240
<v Speaker 1>say they missed the seasons and with seasons, but I'm

0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:21.120
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out what is there to miss. I mean,

0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:24.600
<v Speaker 1>this is season, sunshine, year round, and uh you know

0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:25.960
<v Speaker 1>it's o j I'll tell you, there was no better

0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:28.080
<v Speaker 1>place in the world. You miss about the first ten

0:22:28.080 --> 0:22:30.280
<v Speaker 1>minutes of every car ride being miserable because you're trying

0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:31.960
<v Speaker 1>to warm yourself up the entire time. And I do

0:22:32.000 --> 0:22:34.280
<v Speaker 1>not miss that at all. I don't miss scraping the

0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:36.560
<v Speaker 1>ice off my windshield. I don't miss any of it.

0:22:37.440 --> 0:22:39.680
<v Speaker 1>And my life is laughing as I'm saying this right now.

0:22:39.720 --> 0:22:42.359
<v Speaker 1>She she loves her four seasons. So hey, different jokes,

0:22:42.400 --> 0:22:44.920
<v Speaker 1>different folks. But here we are, well you, We're gonna

0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:47.800
<v Speaker 1>have to work that part out, but we know in

0:22:47.880 --> 0:22:50.760
<v Speaker 1>the Levin household we like one more than there. You go,

0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:53.040
<v Speaker 1>good companies can't go wrong with that. Let's go ahead

0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:55.040
<v Speaker 1>and talk about those Dolphins and Jets rivalry. We had

0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Dick Anderson on and he talked a lot about the seventies, obviously,

0:22:58.000 --> 0:22:59.800
<v Speaker 1>and he and Jake Scott were a big part of

0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:03.280
<v Speaker 1>Miami's dominance in that decade. And this this series is

0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:05.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of fascinating because it goes Jets in the sixties

0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:08.240
<v Speaker 1>all the way across the board. Miami pretty much took

0:23:08.240 --> 0:23:11.639
<v Speaker 1>the seventies down almost unanimously, not quite. The eighties and

0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:13.359
<v Speaker 1>nineties were kind of back and forth. There's been some

0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:16.320
<v Speaker 1>runs recently, I wanted to ask you, you know, you

0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:19.000
<v Speaker 1>mentioned being at Brino's pooled the fake spike in four.

0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:22.919
<v Speaker 1>Do you have a favorite Jets memory? Seth. There's a

0:23:22.920 --> 0:23:25.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of them. I mean, that's one of them. Uh there,

0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:27.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, and when you say favorite, there's some memories

0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:30.320
<v Speaker 1>that really stand out, certainly the fake spikes. And that

0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:33.480
<v Speaker 1>was before I started working for the team and and

0:23:33.640 --> 0:23:37.360
<v Speaker 1>just completely in my my uh fanboy world, and that

0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:40.560
<v Speaker 1>was so memorable for so many um when I started

0:23:40.600 --> 0:23:43.240
<v Speaker 1>working for the team, and you know, I'd have to

0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:44.959
<v Speaker 1>go back and look, but I think the Jets had

0:23:45.000 --> 0:23:47.400
<v Speaker 1>won like eight straight at one point against us. They're

0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:50.560
<v Speaker 1>in the in the mid nineties, and I do remember

0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:54.560
<v Speaker 1>finally breaking that street and I remember Rande Gaston walking

0:23:54.560 --> 0:23:56.800
<v Speaker 1>off the field holding a sign and you know, and

0:23:56.840 --> 0:23:58.680
<v Speaker 1>it was like one and oh or something like that,

0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:00.800
<v Speaker 1>and we had started a new streak of our own.

0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:02.399
<v Speaker 1>I think that's part of the reason, you know, we

0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:05.080
<v Speaker 1>talk about O J and his disgust for the Jets,

0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:08.760
<v Speaker 1>and you know, the rivalry really was so rich at

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:12.159
<v Speaker 1>that point in time. Clearly, there's so many people New

0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:13.879
<v Speaker 1>York that live in South Florida now and so that

0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:17.720
<v Speaker 1>just amplifies that rivalry. But yeah, in those late eighties,

0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:20.520
<v Speaker 1>early to mid nineties, it was ugly, man, it was

0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:23.879
<v Speaker 1>really ugly. Um. So I definitely remember Rande carrying in

0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:28.199
<v Speaker 1>that sign. I unfortunately have nightmares still of the miracle

0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:31.360
<v Speaker 1>of the Meadowlands. Um. That was one that that I'll

0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:33.560
<v Speaker 1>never forget. And and again it's what you know in

0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:36.840
<v Speaker 1>the moment, those things are just devastating. I think when

0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:39.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, decades later and you look back at a career,

0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:43.320
<v Speaker 1>even some of those most difficult times are things that

0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:46.280
<v Speaker 1>stand out and and make your career filling in some way,

0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:49.119
<v Speaker 1>shape or form. Um. So, so that was that was

0:24:49.160 --> 0:24:52.200
<v Speaker 1>a memorable one. But I kind of like the way

0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:54.800
<v Speaker 1>that that we're playing against the Jets these days, and

0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:57.280
<v Speaker 1>hopefully we can get back to those the way things

0:24:57.280 --> 0:24:59.200
<v Speaker 1>were in the seventies. You made a good point there,

0:24:59.200 --> 0:25:02.320
<v Speaker 1>because it wouldn't be an intense rivalry if you won

0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:04.560
<v Speaker 1>every game. It would just be the step child of

0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:06.919
<v Speaker 1>the of the rival where you know, so having those

0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:09.879
<v Speaker 1>losses makes the winds that much better as well. And

0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:12.240
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned that winning streak that was broken, the Jets

0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:14.720
<v Speaker 1>winning streak that was broken. I'll never forget that one

0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:17.680
<v Speaker 1>bye Bye Ricky bye bye streak was what the the

0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 1>the the play by play I'm blanking on his name.

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you can help me out here, but his the

0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:24.480
<v Speaker 1>play by play man had had said that emphatically, and

0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:26.560
<v Speaker 1>that was a fun moment as Ricky raised into the

0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:29.120
<v Speaker 1>to the end zone for his third straight one yard game,

0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:31.800
<v Speaker 1>a couple of touchdowns as well. There that's as I

0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 1>talked about all the time, that's my like favorite era

0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:36.520
<v Speaker 1>as a fan. And it's funny because you know, Dick

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:38.640
<v Speaker 1>mentioned when I had him on the podcast right before

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:41.720
<v Speaker 1>you jumped on that there wasn't really a contentious nature

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:43.679
<v Speaker 1>to the rivalry in the seventies and maybe that was

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:46.960
<v Speaker 1>because the Jets won the sixties the Dolphins won the seventies.

0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:49.160
<v Speaker 1>But then, like we talked about, it became a little

0:25:49.160 --> 0:25:51.800
<v Speaker 1>more or you know, back and forth. And was that

0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:53.720
<v Speaker 1>when I started to get cranked up because for me,

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:57.080
<v Speaker 1>again the Rex Ryan era and my favorite memory was

0:25:57.160 --> 0:26:01.320
<v Speaker 1>that twenty ten Sunday Night game where Chad Henny found

0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:03.600
<v Speaker 1>ted gain and beat Durrell Reeves for the long touchdown

0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 1>pass and we beat them in prime time and maybe

0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:07.560
<v Speaker 1>it was Monday night football at one of the two

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:10.280
<v Speaker 1>I forget, but that was my favorite one because Rex

0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:12.679
<v Speaker 1>Ryan was just so he brought so much victual to

0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:14.720
<v Speaker 1>the to the rivalry and he really he did it

0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 1>back up in my opinion to get like where I

0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:19.200
<v Speaker 1>just couldn't stand those guys. So that was my favorite time.

0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:22.000
<v Speaker 1>But you know, it's like I said, arrived with it

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:24.119
<v Speaker 1>has gone back and forth several times. And in that

0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:26.840
<v Speaker 1>same era was a guy that you guys just had

0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:30.040
<v Speaker 1>on the fish Tank podcast and Devon Best, and you know,

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:31.679
<v Speaker 1>I want to just jump into that real quick here

0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 1>stat before we get out of here. On this Black

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Friday Thanksgiving special of the Flashback podcast, you guys had

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Davon Best on the fish Tank and man, what an

0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:44.680
<v Speaker 1>episode that was. Yeah, thank you Devon was was phenomenal.

0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, I had a chance to work

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 1>with Devon a little bit. Um, I was already working

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:52.520
<v Speaker 1>with the Foundation, but but we helped him out with

0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:56.280
<v Speaker 1>the Best Route Foundation and just a special, special individual.

0:26:56.520 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 1>And at that point in time, you would see how

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:02.959
<v Speaker 1>the difficult times that he had growing up, having served

0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 1>time right out of high school for making a decision

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:08.480
<v Speaker 1>that he wished he could have back, um, you know,

0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:11.560
<v Speaker 1>years later and how that almost derailed his career that

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:14.480
<v Speaker 1>we saw for a guy his size to make it

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:17.159
<v Speaker 1>to the NFL, even if he had no challenges, you know,

0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:19.919
<v Speaker 1>it's just you've already beaten the eyes. You look at

0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:22.920
<v Speaker 1>the team grants and and and the smaller players that

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:25.159
<v Speaker 1>have come through here in the West Welkers. You know

0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:27.680
<v Speaker 1>already those guys in theory aren't supposed to make it

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:29.879
<v Speaker 1>to the league. So Divion already had enough going, you know,

0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:32.560
<v Speaker 1>with size and speed going against him. Uh and then

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:34.399
<v Speaker 1>you you throw in all these other things. And for

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:36.560
<v Speaker 1>a guy that to make it to the level that

0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 1>he didn't have the length of the career that he had,

0:27:39.000 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 1>clearly that's a supreme talent. You know, you don't get

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 1>that far at that size in this league without being

0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:47.960
<v Speaker 1>supremely talented. But there was so much he had to overcome.

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 1>And what was so wonderful is that that he was

0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:53.920
<v Speaker 1>willing to share that. And then, unfortunately, at the tail

0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 1>end of his career and then after his career, Davon

0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 1>had some um, some difficult times. Uh and and there

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 1>were some some mental health issues that you know, we

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:04.440
<v Speaker 1>talked about on our show before and again for him

0:28:04.480 --> 0:28:06.439
<v Speaker 1>to come on and to be so open and so

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:09.480
<v Speaker 1>candid and so vulnerable. Um. And it was important to

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 1>him that Dolphins fans heard his story. You know, he

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:14.960
<v Speaker 1>did not like the idea that dolphin fans had that

0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>whatever happened to Gavon best um mentality and not nothing

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 1>against them, but they just didn't know. And and so

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:24.000
<v Speaker 1>he wanted to be able to share that. So I

0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:27.160
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it was a real special episode for us. Uh.

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:30.040
<v Speaker 1>We love being able to have Davon on and and

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:32.679
<v Speaker 1>most importantly, he seems to be doing great, and so

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:36.439
<v Speaker 1>that was really great to see that. His spirit and

0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:39.400
<v Speaker 1>his energy and his understanding of what he needs to

0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 1>do to keep himself healthy physically and mentally. Uh kind,

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:44.720
<v Speaker 1>all those things are quick. Yeah you said that, perfect

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 1>right theory, because I thought it was awesome to hear

0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 1>his perspective about that moment, removed from that moment where

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 1>he could look back and be honest with himself and

0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:56.480
<v Speaker 1>and talk about it candidly that way. Just really special podcast,

0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 1>I thought. And you know, I wanted to mention to

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:00.200
<v Speaker 1>you and Juice, it's too bad we don't have money today,

0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:01.680
<v Speaker 1>but I wanted to tell you guys, just thank you

0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 1>because you've had him and Brandon Marshall on two of

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 1>the last three episodes, and I've I've told you plenty

0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 1>of times before that I'm a big proponent of taking

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:11.280
<v Speaker 1>care of your mental health. It's it's a a topic

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 1>that hits close to home for me and my family.

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:15.120
<v Speaker 1>We've we've had tragedy and my family over mental health,

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, shortcomings. And so to to hear you guys,

0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:20.760
<v Speaker 1>put those guys on that platform and to give them

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:23.280
<v Speaker 1>that that room to speak, and it's it's really cool, man.

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 1>It's it's cool what you guys are doing. It's it's

0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 1>fun to get away from the football side of things

0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:29.080
<v Speaker 1>and hear about things that are really really important. And

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:32.320
<v Speaker 1>Devaun and Brandon we're just awesome that way. So thank you, guys.

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I guess what I'm trying to say here on thanks listen,

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 1>Thank you Travis. I appreciate you saying that. And again,

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 1>we like to tell stories that aren't the normal XS

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:42.960
<v Speaker 1>and os, and a lot of times those are fun

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 1>and and some crazy stories, and I know you love

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:48.640
<v Speaker 1>the Crowder episodes, but sometimes those stories aren't as fun,

0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes those stories are difficult to tell. But when

0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 1>guys are able to tell them and and to grab

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:56.400
<v Speaker 1>ahold of what had happened and reflect and to build

0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 1>upon that. Um. They're inspired, you know in the revealing,

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 1>and they're very human and so um. So we we

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed being able to be in that position. Uh, that's

0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 1>that's for sure, um, you know. And I also wanted

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 1>to say, as we're talking about the Jet rivalry and

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 1>you would ask about how far is it go back,

0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 1>it's funny to hear you talk about the Rex Ryan

0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 1>years for a couple of reasons. One, you know, as

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 1>a kid, I was raised that you don't like the Jets,

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 1>you don't like the Jets fans, you're not associated. We

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 1>had my my stepdad had a fire a babysitter over him.

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 1>He was some finger waving about, you know, because he

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 1>was a big Jets fan in New York. And my

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:30.600
<v Speaker 1>mother was like, well who else gonna watch here? Watch

0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 1>that son now. But we had to fire him, you know,

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 1>because his Jets fanom was just too much. And that's

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 1>what I was raised in and and understandably so. But uh,

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:42.920
<v Speaker 1>in those Rex Ryan years, he happened to recruit a

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:45.120
<v Speaker 1>guy that I'm pretty close to, and that's my Boss

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 1>and Jason Taylor, and so I tried to sneak out

0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 1>of it, but I guess it's hard for me avoid it.

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 1>And and so as you know, Jason in two thousands

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:54.760
<v Speaker 1>ten spent the season with the Jets. I had a

0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 1>great season, and not that he cared about this or

0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:00.360
<v Speaker 1>anybody did, but it put me in this great place

0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 1>of conflicts and I had to figure out. You know,

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 1>it was very difficult to have to root for my

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 1>guy and he got so close to achieving his ultimate

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 1>goal UM, and it was weird watching and rooting in

0:31:12.800 --> 0:31:16.000
<v Speaker 1>those games, but also obviously wanting the Dolphins to be

0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 1>uh to win every game as well. So so those

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 1>were some challenging time. Going to a Dolphins Jets game

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 1>with Jason wearing Jets colors UM was incredibly challenging. I

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:28.520
<v Speaker 1>wore a Jason Taylor Foundation shirt that day because I

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:31.160
<v Speaker 1>could not show allegiance to the Jets, but I had

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 1>to show allegiance to my guy. So so yeah, I mean,

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of different layers personally to this rivalry,

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure that every Dolphins fan has their own

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:45.280
<v Speaker 1>relationship to h to this rivalry UM, and it's deep

0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 1>rooted and it's what makes this game so special. Yeah,

0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 1>the Dolphins. The MetLife takeover is really fun to see,

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:52.720
<v Speaker 1>at least from a farm, and I've been to it myself,

0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 1>but to see it every year, and to know that

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 1>there's so many Dolphins fans in that area, you have

0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 1>to imagine a big Dan Marino influence there. Just like

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:01.680
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned there's the transplants in South Florida from New York.

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 1>There are people that are Dolphins fans up in the

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Jersey area as well too. So hey, we gotta coming

0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 1>up on Sunday, a chance to sweep them, a chance

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 1>to get back to even fifty five games a piece

0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 1>for either side. I would love to have that happen.

0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Would love to get that seventh win of the season.

0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 1>We talked about the Devon best episode coming up for

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:19.840
<v Speaker 1>you guys, or that's already in the can for you guys.

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Charles Jordan's up next. So actually we're gonna take a

0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 1>little break from the players. And Dave Cross, the the

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:30.720
<v Speaker 1>old team photographer for years for decades, covering the Dolphins

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:34.360
<v Speaker 1>from the seventies, um for for decades and the guy

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 1>I got to work with. Dave's got some funny stories.

0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 1>First of all, he just you know, the images. So

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 1>many of the images that Dolphin fans have seen for

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 1>all of these years were taken through Dave's lens, and

0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 1>so that's really special. But he has some behind the

0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 1>scenes stories with the Shulas which were a lot of fun.

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Um and Dave is famous, his most famous for uh,

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't say he's most famous for. He would really

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:00.120
<v Speaker 1>be upset with that. But he one time had an

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 1>incident where we took photos of the headshots of the

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>coaches and Jimmy Johnson's first year, and after all the

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<v Speaker 1>coaches were done, including Jimmy, Dave realized he had no

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<v Speaker 1>film in the camera and it was not a pretty site.

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<v Speaker 1>That was not a pretty sight. So he talked about

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<v Speaker 1>that writing Harley Davidson's with Dave wants that Dave has

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of amazing stories and so we had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fun with Dave. But then yes, after that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>we did have a chance to sit down with Charles

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan's probably not a name that a lot of Dolphin

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<v Speaker 1>fans remember, but Charles another unlikely story of a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who was um in the l a gang scene and

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<v Speaker 1>so and barely played college football, but yet somehow got

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<v Speaker 1>a multimillion dollar contract as a free agent coming to

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<v Speaker 1>the Dolphins. In Charles story is amazing. Man, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>go wrong with that. You guys are on a roll

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<v Speaker 1>right now cranking out those fantastic episodes. Check out the

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<v Speaker 1>Fish Tank here on the Miami Dolphins podcast network. I've

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<v Speaker 1>got Seth level with me here on this Black Friday

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<v Speaker 1>edition of the Drive Time Podcast. Seth, I appreciate as always. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>go back to your family, go back to the pool

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<v Speaker 1>and the and get some sunshine. My friend. You do

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<v Speaker 1>the same, Travis. And if you see Jelling we're looking

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<v Speaker 1>for he's out there working on the fake spike round

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<v Speaker 1>or something by himself. You get trying and beat the

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<v Speaker 1>jets again. I don't know he's sleeping off exactly all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So be well, my friend, Thank you so much. Take

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<v Speaker 1>care And so there he goes Seth Levitt of the

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<v Speaker 1>Fish Tank podcast again. Check out the Devon Best episode,

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Cross coming up, and Charles Jordan. Man, they've got

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<v Speaker 1>some good stuff coming on the pipeline for you guys

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<v Speaker 1>there on the Fish Tank. As for a Drive Time,

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