1 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: It is late one September night in nineteen ninety seven 2 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: in the borderlands of Nevada and California. Out on the 3 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: edges of the desert town of perump sits a simple 4 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: double wide trailer surrounded by a panopoly of satellite dishes 5 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: and radio receivers. Eighty miles to the east lie the 6 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: bright lights of Las Vegas, and just a little further 7 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: to the north, past desolate valleys and dusty mountain ridges, 8 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: a place known variously to some as Dreamland or Paradise Branch, 9 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: but more commonly today as Area fifty one. Inside the trailer, 10 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: late night radio DJ Art Bell takes a drag on 11 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: a cigarette as the Charlie Daniel's band thunders through the 12 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: Devil Went Down to Georgia, when suddenly he notices a 13 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: call coming through on the Area fifty one line. Earlier 14 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: in the show, Art had invited former employees of the 15 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: secretive US Air Force base to call in on the 16 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: dedicated line if they wish to share any information about 17 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: their time working there. It is shortly after one am, 18 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: with millions listening across more than four hundred radio stations 19 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: throughout the nation, when Art prematurely fades out the music 20 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 1: and takes the call on my Area fifty one line. 21 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: You're on there, Hello, Hello, Art, Yes, him. I don't 22 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: have a whole lot of time A former employee, former employee. 23 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: I was let go on a medical discharge about a 24 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: week ago, and and I've kind of been running across 25 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: the country. Man, I don't know where to start them. 26 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: They'll triangulate on this position. Really released soon. You can't 27 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: spend a lot of time on the phone, So give 28 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: us something quick. Okay, um um, okay. What we're thinking 29 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: of as as aliens are there, that they're they're extra 30 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: dimensional beings that an earlier precursor of the UM space 31 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: program made contact with. H. They are not what they 32 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: claim to be. They have infiltrated a lot of uh, 33 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: a lot of aspects of of of the military establishment 34 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: of particularly the Area fifty one. UH. The disasters that 35 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: are coming, as the caller went on to explain, disasters 36 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: were coming that would lead to the wiping out of 37 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: major population centers led by these apparent aliens, and then silence, 38 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: the signal completely cut out, not just for the call, 39 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: but Art's entire show. Though it would be a stretch 40 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: to say that Art was shaken by the incident. After all, 41 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: he had been fielding similar callers throughout his career, this 42 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: one was undoubtedly different. Not once in his twenty years 43 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: of broadcasting history had he ever lost his satellite signal. 44 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: Something or someone, it seemed, had cut the caller off, 45 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: and so this incident would become one of many events 46 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: in the great ocean of UFO conspiracy theories linked to 47 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: that mysterious Air Force base. Today, for many, the words 48 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: Area fifty one are synonymous with the UFOs and theories 49 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: about just what it is the US government really knows 50 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: about supposed visitors from other realms, And for one incident 51 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: in particular that sits at the very top of ufology law. 52 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: You're listening to Unexplained, and I'm Richard mc lean smith. 53 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: Early in the morning of June fourteenth, nineteen forty seven, 54 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: two riders are slowly picking their way through desert scrub 55 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: as a herd of sheep amble about in the distance 56 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: ahead of them. The riders a forty eight year old 57 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: ranch manager William mac Brazell and his eight year old 58 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: son Vernon. For the past decade or so, Brazell had 59 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: worked as the foreman for the j b. Foster Sheep Ranch, 60 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: a homestead located about one hundred and thirty miles southeast 61 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: of Albuquerque in Lincoln County, New Mexico. Though the family 62 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: lived seventy miles away into LaRosa, Mac as he was 63 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: known to his friends, was required to stay on site, 64 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: boarding in what was little more than a shack, isolated 65 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: on his own, with no electricity, water, or tell of phone. 66 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: And so it was with great fondness that he looked 67 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: forward to days like these, spending time with his son, 68 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: just enjoying the tranquility of the desert. Just forty years previously, 69 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: Mac's uncle, Jesse Wayne Brazil, achieved some notoriety after getting 70 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,799 Speaker 1: caught up in the murder of Pat Garrett, the infamous 71 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: lawman who gunned down Billy the Kid. Though Jesse confessed 72 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: to the killing, many believed he'd merely been put up 73 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: to it, since that kind of act just wasn't the 74 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: Brazil way. As for Mac, he was very much the 75 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: quiet sort, preferring to just keep his head down and 76 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: work hard for his family. That morning, Mac and Vernon 77 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: were about seven miles from the ranch. As Mac ran 78 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: his eyes over the sheep when he caught sight of 79 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: something glinting in the distance. That's strange, he thought, as 80 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: he tugged his hat down further over his eyes and 81 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: squinted toward the sparkling light it seemed to be coming 82 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: from the ground. Assuming it to be nothing but a 83 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: mirrg or some other trick of the light, Mac kicked 84 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: lightly on the horse and trotted out toward it. But incredibly, 85 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 1: as he drew nearer, the mirage didn't disappear. Instead, it 86 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: seemed to fracture into a number of separate reflective pieces. 87 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: This was no mirage, he realized, but something material that 88 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: had fallen from above and shattered all across the desert floor. 89 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: Though often out there in that big, wide expanse, it 90 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: could feel to Mac like he might as well have 91 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: been on Mars, how isolated he was from the outside world. 92 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: On occasion, his world would be interrupted by the odd 93 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: weather balloon dropping in from out of the sky. But 94 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: as Mac looked upon the strange mix of materials scattered 95 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: across the floor in front of him, the only thing 96 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: he did know was that this was nothing like any 97 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: of those weather balloons he had seen before. Ten days later, 98 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: after mac Brazel's discovery in New Mexico, something unusual was 99 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: about to unfold fifteen hundred miles away. Since nineteen forty one, 100 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: fire control engineer Kenneth Arnold had run his own business, 101 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: selling and installing firefighting equipment to rural areas across five 102 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: western states. Part of Arnold's success owed much to his 103 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: dual experience as a pilot, which gave him direct access 104 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: to his clients in a way that most of his 105 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: competitors couldn't match. In nineteen forty four, Arnold gained his 106 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: solo flying license and duly purchased his own plane, often 107 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: flying forty to one hundred hours per month as he 108 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: peddled his wear up and down the country. By the 109 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: summer of nineteen forty seven, Arnold, who was by then 110 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: thirty two, had over nine thousand hours of flying time 111 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: under his belt. On the morning of June twenty fourth, 112 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: Arnold had been helping to install equipment for the Central 113 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: Air Service in Chehalis, Washington. Having finished the job shortly 114 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: before two pm, Arnold headed to the local airport, then 115 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: boarded his call Air single engine airplane, and promptly set 116 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: off toward his next appointment, pulling ever higher into the 117 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: bright blue sky. Above, Arnold set course for the city 118 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: of Yakama, located just one hundred and fifty miles due 119 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: east on the other side of the Cascades mountain range. 120 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: With it being such a calm and clear day, Arnold 121 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: decided to have a look for a C forty six 122 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: transport plane but had apparently gone down in the Cascades 123 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: somewhere on the southwest slope of Mountbrenier only a few 124 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: days previously. A five thousand dollar reward had been offered 125 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: to any one who could locate it. A short time later, 126 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: flying at nine and a half thousand feet, Arnold made 127 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: his approach to the mountain, then turned back on himself 128 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: to make a thorough sweep of its western bridge. Seeing 129 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: nothing below save for a series of dark, rocky crags 130 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: protruding out from under a dusting of fine white snow, 131 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: Arnold continued westward, just past the town of Ashford before 132 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: completing a three hundred and sixty degree turn and heading 133 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: on towards Yakima. Though he was disappointed not to have 134 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: spotted the downed plain, Arnold eased back to an altitude 135 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: of nine thousand, two hundred feet and resolved just to 136 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: enjoy the rest of the flight from thereon, in admiring 137 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: the wide blue sky above and the wild, untouched terrain below. 138 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: Moments later, Arnold noticed a DC four aircraft flying about 139 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: fifteen miles behind him and five thousand feet above. He 140 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: was just making a note of it when he was 141 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: distracted by a series of sudden bright flashes reflecting off 142 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: his plane. Startled by the flashes, Arnold hurriedly searched about 143 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: for any sign of any other aircraft nearby, worried that 144 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: he might have gotten too close to something without realizing. 145 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: Then he noticed something odd just beyond the summit of 146 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: Mount Raynier, what appeared to be nine single aircraft flying 147 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: at a similar altitude to his own plane, approaching rapidly 148 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: in a V formation from north to south. Arnold watched 149 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: with amazement as the apparent crafts, though keeping set on 150 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: their course, continued to dip and swerve in and out 151 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: of the high mountain peaks, moving as if there were 152 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: stones being skimmed across water. As they did so, bright 153 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: flashes of sunlight reflected off them, just like he had 154 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: been startled by moments before. Before long, the objects had 155 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: moved in front of the mountain, from which Arnold was 156 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: then able to observe the shape of them, silhouetted against 157 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: the white canvas of snow behind, and that was when 158 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: things got really strange. At first, the objects seemed to 159 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: be little more than thin black lines, until they would 160 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: flip suddenly and momentarily revealed themselves to be round, saucer 161 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: like discs that came to a point at the back. 162 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: Worried his eyes were deceiving him, Arnold slid the window 163 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: back to get a clear view unimpeded by the plexiglass. 164 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: He also tried turning the plane slightly for a different angle, 165 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: but still the nine strange objects remained visible. Quickly grabbing 166 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: a small tool from his pocket, Arnold used it to 167 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: compare the size of the vehicles with the DC four 168 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: in the distance, judging them to be about half the 169 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 1: size of its wingspan. The width of the whole v 170 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: formation be estimated to be about five miles long. After 171 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: almost three minutes, Arnold watched the objects as they continued 172 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: on their way south toward Mount Adams, before eventually disappearing 173 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: altogether from view. 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That's t e la 189 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: DC dot com slash Unexplained podcast of amused and excitable 190 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 1: Arnold touched down at Yakima Airport just after four p m, 191 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: where he immediately regaled airport manager and good friend Al 192 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: Baxter with what he had just witnessed. Baxter listened carefully 193 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: to what his friend had to say, but there was 194 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: just no way he thought that Arnold could possibly have 195 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: seen what he was claiming. Nonetheless, it was such an 196 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: unusual story that by the time Arnold arrived in Pendleton, Oregon, 197 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: to attend an air show later that day, news of 198 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:11,599 Speaker 1: his bizarre sighting had already preceded him. Speaking to a 199 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: number of pilot friends at the show, some former Army pilots, 200 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: Arnold was urged to recount his story again. Unlike Baxter, however, 201 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: many were less certain if Arnold had been mistaken. A 202 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: number of them speculated as to whether the aircraft might 203 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: actually have been top secret planes that were still being 204 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: developed by the US military. During the incident, Arnold had 205 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: tried to gauge how quickly the objects had been moving 206 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: by counting the time it took for them to travel 207 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: between Mount Rainier and Mount Adams. It was only later 208 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: that evening that he remembered to check the distance between 209 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: the two landmarks. When he discovered they were fifty miles apart, 210 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: Arnold was shocked by his estimation. The objects would have 211 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: had have been flying in the region of seventeen hundred 212 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: miles per hour, three times faster than any known aircraft 213 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: at the time. The day after his apparent sighting, Arnold 214 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: was invited to the offices of the East Oregonian Paper 215 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: in Pendleton to share his version of events. The paper 216 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: published the story the same day, following it up the 217 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: next giving a description of the aircraft as nine bright 218 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: saucerlike objects flying at twelve hundred miles per hour. Before long, 219 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: the story was sweeping the nation, being picked up by 220 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: countless other papers, including The Chicago Sun, whose now famous 221 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: headline supersonic flying sources, cited by Idaho Pilot, is thought 222 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: to be the first ever use of the term flying saucer. 223 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: Two days after the event, Arnold was interviewed on k 224 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: w RC radio. They didn't fly in a conventional formation 225 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: that's taught in our army. They seemed to kind of 226 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: weave in and out right above the mountaintop, and I 227 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: would say that they even went down into the canyons 228 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: in several instances, or probably one hundred feet. But I 229 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: could see them against the snow, of course, on Mountaineer, 230 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: and against the snow on Mount Adams as they were flashing, 231 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: and against the higher ridge that happens to lay in 232 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: between Mount Rainier and Mount Adams. But when I observed 233 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: the tail end of the last one passing Mount Adams, 234 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: and I was at an angle near a mountraineer from it. 235 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: But I looked at my watch and it showed one 236 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: minute in forty two seconds. Well, I fell thought, well 237 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: that's pretty fast, and I didn't stop to think what 238 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: the distance was between the two mountains. Well, I landed 239 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: at Yakima, Washington, and Al Baxter was there to greet me, 240 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: and he told me, I guess I better changed my 241 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: brand for the next few days. Arnold was catapulted into 242 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: the spotlight in one day two with interview requests and 243 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 1: even recognized when out on the street. But incredibly, it 244 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: wasn't only Arnold who had apparently seen the nine supposed 245 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: saucerlike aircraft. On June twenty fourth, while Arnold and his 246 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: plane were heading past Mount Rainier prospector Fred Johnson from Portland, Oregon, 247 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: was in the Mount Adams district when he too spotted 248 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: something unusual heading toward him in the sky above. Having 249 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: a telescope on him at the time, Johnson was able 250 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: to get a closer view of them. In a letter 251 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: written to the Army Air Force some months after the event, 252 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 1: Johnson claimed the objects were roughly thirty feet wide at 253 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: a bright top surface, and were round in shape but 254 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: tapered to a sharp point at the back, just as 255 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: Arnold had claimed. Looking closer through his telescope, Johnson had 256 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: also apparently seen some kind of device at the tail end, 257 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: which he described as being like the big of a clock, 258 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: shifting from side to side like a big magnet. That 259 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: same day, a Washington State Forest Service worker on firewatch 260 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: in the Diamond Gap lookout tower, just twenty miles south 261 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: of Yakima, saw something too. It was around three pm, 262 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: while making a routine sweep at the forest with his binoculars, 263 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: that the man noticed a series of bright flashes coming 264 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,479 Speaker 1: from the direction of Mount Vernier. The flashes appeared to 265 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: move in a straight line right across his field of vision. 266 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: Johnson's and the fire service workers account are thought to 267 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: be two of at least sixteen similar sightings to Kenneth 268 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,959 Speaker 1: Arnold's given by witnesses considered credible by either the press 269 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: or Army Air Force investigators. The pilot of the DC 270 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: four that had been flying close to Arnold at the 271 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: time of the incident was also contacted. However, he was 272 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: reported not to have seen anything unusual that day. Back 273 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: at the JB. Foster Ranch in New Mexico, mac Brazel, 274 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: unaware of the Kenneth Arnold's sightings, was beginning to wander 275 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: more and more about the peculiar debris it'd spotted on 276 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 1: the pastures the previous week. Something about it just didn't 277 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: add up. On July two, just over thirty miles to 278 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 1: the east of the Foster Ranch, in the town of Roswell, 279 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: something else was afoot. Roswell, with a population at the 280 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: time of roughly fifteen thousand, is the seat of Chaves County, 281 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: and its residents were no strangers to the site of 282 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: objects flying rapidly through the sky. Back in nineteen thirty, 283 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: early rocketing pioneer and inspiration to a young Jack Parsons, 284 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: Robert Goddard, established a base in Roswell to conduct his 285 00:19:55,680 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: research in the nascent technology. Goddard had picked ross Well 286 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: as the perfect place to experiment due to its sense 287 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: of isolation and the strict secrecy it afforded him. Only 288 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 1: ten years later, the United States Army Air Forces, having 289 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: acquired land from a local rancher, constructed the Roswell Army 290 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: airfield on the southern outskirts of the town. That July night, 291 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: at one hundred and five South Pennsylvania Avenue, thirty two 292 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: year old Dorris and forty year old Dan Wilmot headed 293 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: out to their porch as they usually did to relax 294 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: after one of the hottest days of the year. The 295 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: couple were well known to many in the city and 296 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,719 Speaker 1: highly respected, partly due to Dan being the owner of 297 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: a prominent local hardware store, but also a serving member 298 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: of the city's Board of Education. It was just approaching 299 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: ten PM when Dan noticed something unusual in the pitch 300 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: black sky. Since both Dan and Dorris had spent their 301 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: entire lives the area, having lived through both Godards experimenting 302 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: and the construction of the local Air Force base, they 303 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: had seen their fair share of aircraft, but this was 304 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: like nothing they had seen before. At first, it seemed 305 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: nothing more unusual than a bright star in the sky, 306 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 1: until Dan realized that not only was it moving, but 307 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: it was getting closer, sipping through the sky at a 308 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: high rate of speed. Doris soon caught sight of it too, 309 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: as it approached from out of the south, heading in 310 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: a northwesterly direction. In their excitement, the couple sprang to 311 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: their feet and ran into the yard to get a 312 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: better look at it. Dan later estimated it to have 313 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: been traveling somewhere close to five hundred miles per hour 314 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: at roughly fifteen hundred feet, but it was the shape 315 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: of it that really caught their attention, as the couple 316 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: reported later, at about five feet in depth and somewhere 317 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: between fifteen to twenty feet wide, it appeared to be 318 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: oval like, two inverted sources placed face to face. Aside 319 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,719 Speaker 1: from the faintest swishing sound, the object was completely silent, 320 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: but most peculiarly, the whole body of it was glowing, 321 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: not from any light they could see outside of it, 322 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: but from the inside of the object. The couple claimed 323 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: to have watched the object for roughly a minute before 324 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: it disappeared beyond distant treetops on nearby six mile Hill. 325 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: Dan and Doris would spend the rest of the night 326 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: utterly confused as to what on earth it was they 327 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: had just seen, assuming that it would be the talk 328 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 1: of the town the next day. Much to their surprise, however, 329 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: not one person mentioned it. Before long, the couple began 330 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: to wonder if they had seen anything unusual at all. 331 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: Back out on the j Be Foster ranch, Mac Brazell 332 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: and his son had been joined by his wife and 333 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: daughter to celebrate Independence Day. Having finally decided to do 334 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: something about the debris out in the field, Brazel convinced 335 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: his family to join him out there in trying to 336 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: pick it all up. After riding for an hour and 337 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: a half, the family came upon the strewn pieces just 338 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: as Mac had left them on June fourteenth. Together, they 339 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: jumped down and gathered up as much of it as 340 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: they could, bundling the rest of it up and hiding 341 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: it under a bush. The following day, Mack drove up 342 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: to Corona, a small township forty miles to the north, 343 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: to visit his brother in law, Hollis. Later, when Mack 344 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: told Hollis about the strange materials he had found out 345 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: in the desert, his brother in law's eyes widened. It 346 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: was then that Mac heard for the first time about 347 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: the bizarre sightings of unidentified flying objects that seemed to 348 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: be plaguing the nation. And so it was that, after 349 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: wrestling with what best to do, on Monday morning, je 350 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: Mac loaded up his truck with some of the pieces 351 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: of what he'd found and set off toward Roswell. A 352 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: short time later, after first dropping his family off into LaRosa, 353 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: Mac pulled up outside the Chaves County Sheriff's office. Taking 354 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: the strange materials from the back of his truck, he 355 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: walked through the big double doors and straight into one 356 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: of the most beguiling and enduring mysteries of modern times. 357 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: You've been listening to Unexplained, Season four, episode eleven, New 358 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: Dawn Fades, Part one of two. The second and final 359 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: part will be released next Friday five. If you enjoy this, 360 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: think to Unexplained and would like to help support us, 361 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: you can now go to Unexplained podcast dot com, forward 362 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: Slash support. 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