1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Call It what It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Ludington, 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: Well, Hello, Hello, Hello. 4 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 3: Hello, call It crew, and welcome to another episode of 5 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 3: Short and Sweet. 6 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 4: Let's give a little backstory. 7 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 3: I sent this headline to you, this article to you, 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 3: and it was the most annoying headline I've ever seen 9 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 3: in my life. 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 4: The eye roll I did lasted maybe an hour. I 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 4: was like pissed. 12 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 3: Actually, I was like, I don't need this in my life. 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: Why don't you read the headline that I sent you? 14 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: Does my vagina need a skincare routine? 15 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 4: Jessica Capshaw, I don't need this. 16 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: I'm tired. 17 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 5: Let it if I need to start worrying about what 18 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 5: whether I'm I don't know, wrinkle free. 19 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 3: What are we talking about here? We talk about botox 20 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 3: and filler. 21 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: Well, we've talked about scrow talks. 22 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: So we have talked about scow talks. Let's talk about it. Okay, 23 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 3: there's just but there. 24 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna interject. 25 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 6: It's a little it's a little off brand for me 26 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 6: because it's a little pessimistic. 27 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: But I just it's it's sort of smacks of. 28 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 6: Capitalism and consumerism, like it seems like we're just being 29 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 6: told that we need to buy stuff. 30 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 4: And to be honest. 31 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 3: Okay, So this was an article from The Cut and 32 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 3: it tackles the booming trend of vaginal skin, from cleansers 33 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 3: and ceriums to v drops. Never heard of that and 34 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: luxury formulas they're flooding TikTok and sophora. I thought to myself, 35 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 3: I've never seen a headline that says, do my balls 36 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 3: need a skincare routine? So I felt like this is 37 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 3: a little misogynistic if you're asking me, well, it feels 38 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 3: like the. 39 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 6: First wave was, you know, just hair removal, Like it 40 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 6: felt like, you know, vaginas were under attack from all angles. 41 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: They needed to be completely stripped. 42 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 43 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 6: And then now that they're now that they're just free 44 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 6: and naked in the world and of anything, you need 45 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 6: to also get like polished and serummed and steamed. 46 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 3: And have you heard Okay, I've heard of steamed because 47 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: you know, I you know, I love a goop. I 48 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 3: love a Goop episode. So I heard of steaming the vagina. Okay, 49 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 3: I've heard of that. Have you heard before I send 50 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 3: you this? Had you heard of vaginal a vaginal skincare 51 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: routine where someone's going to go to bed and they're like, 52 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna do my space and my vagina quick. 53 00:02:58,639 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 4: Before bed. 54 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 5: They put on one of those like Jessica, you know those. 55 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 4: Like headbands you have your hair. 56 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 2: It was like a vagina aad band. 57 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 3: You gotta get it ready. 58 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 6: I think that the vaginas that are getting skincare again 59 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 6: are bald. 60 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: I mean maybe they are, maybe they're not. 61 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 6: I don't think that there's I don't think there's hair 62 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 6: standing in their way. I think no, I hadn't heard 63 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 6: of a skincare routine for listen. I'm a very clean person, 64 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 6: like I like things very clean. Yes, I'm a tidy person, 65 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 6: absolutely so. I mean I put at tension on during 66 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 6: the like when you're in the shower or the bath. 67 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 4: Well, we're not letting it get swampy. 68 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, But I'm saying like, like when I wake up 69 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 6: in the morning or when I go to bed at night, 70 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 6: I didn't I'm not aware that there's actually an extra 71 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 6: step that needs to be taken in a skin like 72 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 6: in a skincare regime. I think that I get that 73 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 6: sorted in my normal you know, showering or bathing process. 74 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 3: Well thankfully, obg yn doctor ericat Neulan and dermatologist doctor 75 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: Michelle Henry disagree with this skincare routine situation. 76 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: And this this next part. 77 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 6: Kind of creeps me out. I don't really want to 78 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 6: hear go ahead saying, I'm gonna. 79 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 4: Say it because it's true. 80 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: Well, our vaginas, they maintain that our vaginas are self cleaning. 81 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 4: I mean, that's a that's a beautiful thing that our vagina. 82 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 6: It's fine, but the self cleaning part makes me feel 83 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 6: like like our like like our vaginas have like rumbas 84 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 6: or something like that, like they've got it, like there's 85 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 6: some part of them that cleans themselves automatically. 86 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 2: Wait, you don't have a rumba, not in my vagina. 87 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 4: Oh well you must know. 88 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: Like one of those pool cleaners that just like. 89 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 6: Roams around cleaning the bottom of. 90 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I've never had that visual. That is absurd. 91 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 4: And this is what I've always heard. 92 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 3: You should typically just use warm water or a very gentle, 93 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 3: fragrance free cleansa. 94 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 4: Wow, that was so British. 95 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 3: Cleansing when needed on the vulva, which is the external 96 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: area of the vagina and why. 97 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: For a second. Let's just talk about that for a second. 98 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 4: What the word bulva? Yeah, I knew you're going to 99 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 4: say it. 100 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I don't I think we could have come 101 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 3: up with something a little bit more just. 102 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 6: I'm sure a lot of people are going to disagree, 103 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 6: But I don't think she's a cute word. 104 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 4: I don't think she's a cute word either. 105 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: I don't think penis is much better. By the way, 106 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: It's not like I think. 107 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 4: No, I just I don't understand why all I know, 108 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 4: I know, I know, I. 109 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 3: Do agree, Okay, why do Why do these doctors think? 110 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 3: This is? Because many products can disrupt your pH irritate 111 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,239 Speaker 3: delicate skin, and do more harm than good. In short, 112 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 3: less is more. Absolutely, this is what I think is 113 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: insane about this. I've heard this for many years, as 114 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 3: you have, as so many of us have. 115 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 4: I don't know what am I like? What am am 116 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 4: I doing? Appeal down there? 117 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 3: No, no, I know, but I'm like, I'm joking, but 118 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 3: like I feel like you have to be so careful. 119 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 4: It's such a delicate. 120 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: It's such delicate skin. 121 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 6: I mean, I think that you've got to be that 122 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 6: being said, also, I was have already. 123 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 2: You already know the story, but I was. 124 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 6: It wasn't so long ago that I was made aware 125 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 6: just how very different our vulvas are. 126 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, you were quite shocked. 127 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: I was. 128 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 6: And my guess is that there's probably you know, maybe 129 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 6: maybe it's a customization, like every vulv needs a different routine. 130 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 3: I don't think so well, I mean possibly, I look 131 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 3: up what. 132 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 6: All the different vulva options are. They look like they 133 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 6: might need different routines. 134 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 3: That's fair, that's possible. I think that when we I 135 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 3: think this is what I hate about it. I think that, 136 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 3: like I'm already struggling with a skincare routine from the 137 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 3: neck up right, I'm already confused. 138 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: Wait, so you're like me, like, have you ever used 139 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: body lotion? 140 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 4: Like, yes, but I don't know which I know from 141 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 4: here up? Oh not every day, but I've used body 142 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 4: lotion before. 143 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 3: But I'm like, I'm I'm scouring the aisles of Sephora 144 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 3: to find the best neck cream. I don't need to 145 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 3: be heading down the vagina aisle next to figure out 146 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 3: what I would the toner. 147 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: Oh god. 148 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 6: Also, by the way, I'm just I'm just saying, like 149 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 6: your face is right, there you can look in the 150 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 6: mirror and see where where you're at, how how your 151 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 6: how your products are you know, reacting to your skin. 152 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 6: I'm just gonna go out on a limon and say, like, 153 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 6: it's hard to get face to face with how things 154 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 6: are going down there or which toner might be working right. 155 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. Can you imagine if I saw you and you're like, oh, 156 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 3: you look a little tired, and I was like, but 157 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 3: my vagina looks great today. 158 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: Well, but also, how would you check your work? 159 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 6: Is my point? I mean, I mean, I guess you're 160 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 6: maybe maybe there's there's another thing that you need to throw. 161 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: On the market, like the vagina mirror. 162 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 4: I just don't. I don't care enough, is the truth, 163 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 4: of course. 164 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 3: I mean I don't I care, of course to keep 165 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: everything clean. We're not talking about being clean and hygienic 166 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 3: and keeping everything fresh and all the things. We're talking 167 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 3: about a fucking skincare routine for down there. And that's 168 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 3: what bugets I was like, women don't need another thing, No, 169 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 3: we don't until I see a penis skincare routine that 170 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 3: they're all following, and all the guys are in the 171 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 3: penis aisle getting that cream I'm not gonna worry about that. 172 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah do you think that? 173 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 3: Now? 174 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 6: I'm just gonna be like my, my, My socials are 175 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 6: just gonna start feeding me. 176 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: All the vaginal school gods. Am I gonna get those? 177 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 3: Yes? Seriously, Watch one night, I'll be two glasses of 178 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 3: red wine and suddenly there's a bunch in my car. 179 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 6: I just don't understand some of these things, Like, I mean, 180 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 6: I definitely have no idea what a vaginal detox pearl. 181 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: I've heard of. 182 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 6: You're right, I've never heard of vaginal glitter bombs. 183 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 4: Vaginal glitter bombs. Okay, this is what it says. First off, 184 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 4: these these glitter. 185 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:18,359 Speaker 3: Bombs for your vagina are called my Glitter Capsules. 186 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 4: Comes in a three pack. 187 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 3: The capsule will dissolve, releasing a sparkly mixture of shimmer 188 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: and lube, adding to a magical element to your sex life. 189 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 3: If tinker Bell uses lube. This is it. I'm not 190 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 3: even kidding this, this is what I'm reading. Can I 191 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: tell you something I have never been intimate and thought, 192 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: I wish it does a little glitter. 193 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 6: I wish it sparkled more. Oh god, it this would 194 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 6: be better if it was a little sparkleer. This would 195 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 6: feel better if there was sparkles on it. 196 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 3: Oh my god. Wait No, Jessica though a lore magazine. 197 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 3: I did a whole article on this, and they said 198 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 3: that this is the headline. People are putting glitter capsules 199 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 3: in their vaginas and this doctor is concerned. No sh 200 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 3: And then The New York Post wrote why women should 201 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 3: never put a glitter bomb down there? What was the 202 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 3: other one that you said, the pearl? 203 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, a vaginal detox pearl. 204 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 3: They are small herbal pellets that you insert in your reagina. 205 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 3: There's no proof to their health claims. 206 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 4: It's the next pint of this, you guys. I think 207 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 4: we just continue doing what we're doing. 208 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 2: I'm with the You just keep doing what you're doing. 209 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: You keep it clean, You keep it clean people with 210 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 3: the water, We keep it simple. 211 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 2: Yeah. 212 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 3: Anyway, So yeah, basically this is just a raging episode. 213 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 3: And I'm just raging on this one today because it 214 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 3: really pissed me off. 215 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, it really pissed you off. 216 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 2: And I think that that's okay, And I think that 217 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 2: that's where we're at with this. 218 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 3: And yeah, we are revolting against this whole. 219 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 4: We say no to the pearls. 220 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 3: We don't want the glitter, we don't want the toners, 221 00:10:58,400 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 3: don't want any of it. 222 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 4: No, we were ducked at all. How do you guys 223 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 4: feel though? Tell us? Are you into it? 224 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 3: Are you now listening and like, wait a second, I'm 225 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: in I'm going to be hitting up Sephour for the 226 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 3: vaginal skincares, and. 227 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 6: Or you already are, and you and it's changed your life, 228 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 6: then I want to hear from. 229 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 4: You that we do want to hear from you. Maybe 230 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 4: we're super naive, Jessica. 231 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 2: Maybe we need to be talked. 232 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 4: So let's call 233 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 3: It the end of the episode.