1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. So I was at a party recently and you're talking, 2 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: you're socializing, you have a drink, and you're excited to 3 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: have a drink someone as you're thirsty, you want water, 4 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: but like the drinks there, and to me, a margarita 5 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: and water feel just as good in the moment, not 6 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: quite the next day, but literally in the moment. A 7 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: frozen margarita is like I've been on the Star Wars 8 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: desert for ten years and it tastes just as good 9 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: as water, which is why I wake up with a 10 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: neck ache, a headache, a body ache, because I just 11 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: don't like water. So when you don't like water and 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 1: when you do like alcohol, you know, it's it's not 13 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: that great to mix them because you're already a thirsty, 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: dehydrated person, you know, and then you drink the alcohol. 15 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: So anyway, I went to this party recently with this 16 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: sort of fancy, high end caterer and they were serving 17 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: wine and I was drinking, and I and drinking water, 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: and you're talking, and so you're not you know, you 19 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: kind of are always aware. You're gon at a restaurant 20 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: of like the waiter who wants to keep filling your 21 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: glass because they want you to order another bottle of wine, 22 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: which is sort of a scam to me where if 23 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: you go out of your girlfriends and you order one 24 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: glass of wine at the bar, they give you one glass, 25 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: you finish it. You know what you're doing. You could 26 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: have water in between, you could sip it, you could 27 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: ic it, you could plub soda it. It's your body 28 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: or your wine, your choice. Then you get another one. 29 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: When you're at a party or restaurant and they're topping 30 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: you off, it's fucked for everybody. I'll tell you why 31 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: you're not sitting there like with a measuring stick, counting 32 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: what you're doing. So now you're drank one glass of wine, 33 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: you're a little ready, a little buzzed. So now you 34 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: don't have the wherewithal to be talking to the person 35 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: behind you who's pouring that glass of wine, and you're 36 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: now you could drink like five drinks when you normally 37 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: would drink two in a night. And topping off should 38 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: be banned. Like topping off you're having a part, if 39 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: you're having a party, if you're at a restaurant, if 40 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: you're on a first date, if you're on a blind date, 41 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: if you're on an online eight. That's how you get 42 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: into serious situations. That's how you're having sex on the 43 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: first date. That's how you end up in frat houses 44 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: when you're you know years old. Do not allow topping off. 45 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: It's just ruins your next day. If you're over thirty five, 46 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: your whole weekend is blown. That's on a Friday night. 47 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: So I had a recent experience where a cater kept 48 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: topping me off and I knew it, but in the moment, 49 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: it was like, I think the game was moving too fast. 50 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: I was probably in a conversation. I didn't want to 51 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: scold a topp er offer and look at the messa 52 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: got me in, So just let the person know, no, 53 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: thank you. I just would rather just like finish each 54 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: class and then we can have a little discussion and 55 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: circle back and park that for now, because topping off 56 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: is no good and also expensive makes you order more 57 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: wine than you need. My guest today is Susanne Summers. 58 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: She's an actress, New York Times bestselling author and entrepreneur. 59 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: America fell in love with her on Threes Company, and 60 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: through her career spanning decades beyond that. She's actually in 61 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: the Infomercial Hall of Fame. She has sold more than 62 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: ten million thigh Masters now. Her brand includes wellness, makeup, 63 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: cleaning products, and so much more. She is a force. 64 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: There is basically nothing she hasn't or can't do. Today 65 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: we're talking about why ignorance is sometimes the best business 66 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 1: secret and how to turn any negative situation into an opportunity. 67 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: We have so much income and you are going to 68 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: love this one. I certainly did. Hi. Hi. Finally, it's 69 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: so terrific to get to do this with you for 70 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: so many reasons that you're not aware of that. I'm 71 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: so in tune with what you've done and so excited 72 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: for this conversation. Um, so we'll go on this journey 73 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: and and and and see if the preconceived notions I 74 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: have about you are true. So welcome, well, thank you, 75 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: and I admire you too, you know, I love um 76 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: you take an opportunity and then fly with it, like 77 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: you know Housewives of New York. When I first started, 78 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: there was a lot of kind of feeling about it, 79 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: and you just made that show fly. So you're my 80 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: kind of girl. I feel that that's what you did. 81 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: And of a cute show, I mean a cute, successful, 82 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: innovative show. So you where did you grow up? I 83 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: grew up in northern California, very middle class little town 84 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: called San Bruno. And really all I ever wanted to 85 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: do was get out of San Bruno. I just I 86 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: knew there was something beyond where I was living. It 87 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: was a very very blue collar, middle class. My father 88 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: was the baseball coach, and and the town drunk. Well, 89 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: how can someone young in a town like that? One? 90 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: That's all that you know? Was it TV? Was it movies? 91 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: Was it magazines? What was it that made you think 92 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: there were a bigger world out there? I you know, 93 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: I've I've thought about that, um, because nobody had pursued 94 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: any kind of big dreams in my life. My father, 95 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: um did. My father was all city baseball in San Francisco, 96 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: and there was a lightweight fighter and champion and all that, 97 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: and he was being scouted for the San Francisco Seals, 98 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: which at that time was the Major League baseball team. 99 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: And then, as happened with so many men of that generation, 100 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: World War two came and they were whisked away, and 101 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: when they came back, they lost their window of opportunity. 102 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: And in losing that window of opportunity, he ended up 103 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: putting cases of beer onto a box card for a living. 104 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: He must have hated it, must have hated it. And 105 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: he would come home from work every day because he 106 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: worked in a brewery just drunk and then drink whiskey 107 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: all night and get ship faced. And and um, I 108 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: loved him, as you do when you're a child. But um, 109 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: it was a miserable existence. And so I had to 110 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: hide in the closet, in fact, all of us did. 111 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: On the really bad nights. My mother would come round 112 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: us up in that voice, get in the closet, Get 113 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: in the closet, getting the closet. And you know, it's 114 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: interesting how you take things as normal when that's what 115 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: you're living with. And we go and all huddled together 116 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: in this cedar closet we had. We had a chest 117 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: there that my brothers and sister and my mother and 118 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: I would sit. And at times he make his way 119 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: upstairs and bang on the door looking for us. It 120 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: was like the monster out there. So what do you 121 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: do when you can't cope? When you're a kid, You dream? 122 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: And I used to uh dream that I was on 123 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: a big stage and that I was famous, and I 124 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: was singing, and my mother was in the front row, 125 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: and she was finally proud and happy. I think it 126 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: was the dream of a little girl who wanted I 127 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: wanted to help my mother so badly, but what can 128 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: you do your your impotent? Maybe that dream is more 129 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: potent than we think. I remember giving the commencements um 130 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: speech at National University, and I remember saying that the 131 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: dreams we had as children were us talking to ourselves 132 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: about the possibility about ourselves. Some of us tuned into 133 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: that and some of us don't. I guess I tuned 134 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: into that because it came true. Um many years later, 135 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: I was starring on the in Las Vegas, on the 136 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: MGM Grand Stage, my own show, the Suzanne Summers Show, 137 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: with the twenty five piece orchestra and twelve dancers and 138 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: ten costume change and guess who was in the front row. Wow, 139 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: there was my mother and she was proud and she 140 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: was happy. And by then my father had sobered up. 141 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: So it's been a journey that had to be a 142 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: lot to heal and repair. I wrote several books um 143 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: about in the Child of the Alcoholic, and in fact 144 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: started the Adult Shoulder of Alcoholics movement. What is that? 145 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: That's we're the kids who grow up with alcoholics, but 146 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: we don't drink alcoholically, but something's not right with us? 147 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: What's wrong? And when I wrote that book Keeping Secrets, 148 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: I was done at the large audiences people adults starving 149 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: for clarity. They look seemingly okay, but what is wrong 150 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: with them? And it was a very potent experience I lectured. 151 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,599 Speaker 1: I still lecture on that from time to time, but 152 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: it's moved on into my other areas of passion. I 153 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: relate to that. I relate to that a lot. I 154 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: grew up in a house where you're walking on eggshells 155 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: and always walking in on something and complete rage and 156 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: breaking everything in the house, and you become a person 157 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 1: that's sort of just like a little just a little fraid, 158 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: a little like manic, a little, you know. And I 159 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: was talking to my therapist today about this. It just 160 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: came up because I know somebody personally who has that 161 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: greek and you meet other people and my and I said, 162 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: this other person, I know that streak. And I'm a 163 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: very strong personality, meaning I'll say what I think to someone, 164 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: but I might not say what I think to someone 165 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: who I know has that nasty streak because you just 166 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: see it come out and it is my mom, my mother. 167 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's my mother, like you know, just in 168 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:26,239 Speaker 1: screaming or something irrational. And she said to me, Um, 169 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: we subconsciously are attracted to those people. Not meaning all 170 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: my friends are like that, but there are some people 171 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: that we will be attracted to you in our lives 172 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: that bring that up. And you probably have had that too. 173 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: There's someone around you that has had something that reminds 174 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: you of that experience, right. I think we're attracted to 175 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: that because we're trying to figure out how to get 176 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: out from underneath it, how to resolve it. When I 177 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: first met my husband as a twenty year old, UM, 178 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: but he was my second husband who I'm still married to, 179 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: Alan Campbell. Uh, he was quite control in the early years, 180 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: quite controlling, and Um, we fought and fought and fought. 181 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: We fought over his control issue, both of our control issues, 182 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: because somewhere deep inside me, I no longer want to 183 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: be controlled ever again. And then of course we were 184 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: blending families, and we were the first generations that blended families. 185 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: That was so difficult. Um. But what I did with 186 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: my husband, what we did with one another, we we 187 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: never quite figured out what we were really arguing about 188 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: until in my therapy session came up we're arguing about 189 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: a level playing field. I just wanted a level playing field, 190 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: and we achieved that. And um, we achieved that. I 191 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: forgave my father fully. Fully you can't kind of you know, 192 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: Oh it's okay, now you have to kind of sense. 193 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: That's why I gave a little backstory on what what 194 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: made them that way, and then it's much easier to 195 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: forgive them. Yes, you put yourself in their shoes, and 196 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: you think maybe I would have been the same way. 197 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: So that's the that's the definition of compassion. But okay, 198 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: so you're you're a little girl and you're trying to 199 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: come out from something and survive something and be something 200 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: and prove something. And um, how did you create your 201 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: first success? How did you get the Three's Company gig? 202 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: I want to know, Um, did you have a feeling 203 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: that that was going to be a successful show where 204 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: this was just getting a paycheck getting a gig and 205 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 1: you're just a young actress. Well, I have to roll 206 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: back a little bit. I um getting pregnant as a teenager, Um, 207 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: first time I ever had sex? If that was at 208 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: what age? At eighteen. Well, okay, I gave birth one 209 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: month after my nineteenth birthday. At that time, remember when 210 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: girls had to get married, and just the fact and 211 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: more control. I'm now married to a really nice guy. 212 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it really wasn't his fault. He should have 213 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: been getting married at twenty years old and I should 214 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: have been getting married at eighteen years old. Um, but 215 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: I felt trapped and choked. Yet I had this baby 216 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: I've got. I fell in love the moment they pulled 217 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: Bruce from my my loins. It was just, man, that 218 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 1: mother's love thing is something so incredible. So I divorced 219 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: uh that year, and it was a shameful thing. A. 220 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: Now I had to I was the daughter sound drunk. Um, 221 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: I had to get married and then I was the 222 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: first one I knew up to get a divorce. Triple crown. 223 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: Great start, great start. Yeah. So I had I had 224 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: this thing about me and I just had to make 225 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: a living. I wasn't getting any child's order, alimony or anything. 226 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: And um, I m started working extra in movies and 227 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: like the I was if there's an A B in 228 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: a C, a fashion model. I was between B and C. 229 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: I was too short and busty, and I usually got 230 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: the standing in front of the show lay or smoking 231 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: the not smoking smoking the cigarette, and um, really I 232 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: got Three's company because I love Dallen Hamill. Why I 233 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: He was living in Los Angeles the day that I 234 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: met him. I was twenty years old, and it was 235 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 1: like in the comic books, Boying just incredible. Um, and 236 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: we're living in different cities. But he had to come 237 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: up to San Francisco every week because he was doing 238 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: one of his series out of kgot V in San Francisco. 239 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: And so I read in the Trades, don't know where 240 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: I got the trades, you know there are no accidents, 241 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: and it said they're looking for a guest star for 242 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: the Dom Delouis Show next Tuesday, two o'clock NBC, Burbank. 243 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: The description was small town girl doesn't know who she 244 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: is and doesn't know what she looks like. And I'm 245 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: smartness to go that is so me. I don't know 246 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: who I am, I don't know what I looked at. 247 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: I don't know anything. So I told Alan, because I 248 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: wasn't bluffing, it was reality. I didn't know I needed 249 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: an agent. I didn't know anything. When you don't know 250 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 1: anything you can kind of bombard your way in. Well, 251 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: that's a great note for people, because ignorance is bliss. 252 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,119 Speaker 1: If I ever knew how crowded and competitive the cocktail 253 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: liquor space was, I wouldn't have even done it. I 254 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: didn't even I just had an idea. I walked forward. 255 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: So sometimes it's not good to know too much. Analysis 256 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: is paralysis. Sometimes I love I love both of those sayings. 257 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: Ignorance is bliss is what I was looking for to 258 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: so um. I said to Alan, I've got this interview 259 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: at NBC Burbank on Tuesday at two o'clock. And he said, well, great, 260 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: I'll pick you up an airport, which is really all 261 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: I wanted, with that great kiss in the car when 262 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: you haven't seen each other for a week, and he 263 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: drove me over to Burbank. Against ignorance is bliss. The 264 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: guard says, what are you here for. I said, I'm 265 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: here for the Dom Delawi show. And I said it 266 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: was such confidence because I didn't know I needed an 267 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: agent to set it up or anything. And the guard said, oh, okay, 268 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: you can park over there. So I park over there, 269 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: or Alan parks over there, and I go into where 270 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: the interview is and they're all these girls there and 271 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: they look like me, only they're all much betch better 272 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: looking blonde beauties. And I kind of watched what they 273 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: were doing. And they went up to the receptionist and 274 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: signed in, and then the receptionist handed them the script. 275 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: So I walked over. I signed in, the receptionist hand 276 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: the script um then I was called in to read. 277 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: And when I finished reading for a guy by the 278 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: name of Sam den Off. So eventually I worked on 279 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: another series with years later. Uh. When I finished, he said, 280 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: very nice, he said, I'm gonna and I thought, well, yeah, 281 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: of course, I'm a small town girl. I don't know 282 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: who I am and I don't know what I looked 283 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: by me said I'm going to give you a call back, 284 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: and I said, well, thank you. So I go to 285 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: the receptionist and I said, I've got to call back. 286 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: That's Beginner's a luck. I mean, it's not luck, but 287 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: that's I mean, I've auditioned in my life. I've never 288 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: had that experience. That's unbelievable, I think because I so 289 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: believe that who they described was me. So I just 290 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: I just was that person. And so I said to 291 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: the receptions. Um, what is the call back? And she's 292 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: looked at me strange. She said, well, they're going to 293 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: call you back. I said one. She said I don't know. 294 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: I said, well like today. She said, oh yeah today. 295 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: I said, well where, And now she's getting irritated with 296 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: me because I'm her problem. These words changed my life. 297 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: She said, I don't know. Why didn't you go a 298 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: wait in the commissary. That's what changed my life. So 299 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: I go over to the commissary. It's down about three 300 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: o'clock and I'm sitting there all by myself. I didn't 301 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: buy anything because I didn't have any money, and I'm 302 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: sitting there alone and over there walks in Johnny Carson 303 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: and I said, oh my god, there's Johnny Carson. And 304 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there and I thought, oh my god, Johnny 305 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: Carson is walking over to me. Oh my god. Stop 306 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: and he says, hey, little lady, what are you doing here? 307 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: And I said, I have a callback. I had some 308 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: wing going right, like oh what I said for the 309 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: dom Dellwi showing oh he's a good friend of mine. 310 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: I hope you get it. So, um, I didn't have 311 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: an eight by ten, but I have written the Book 312 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: of Poetry nineteen, This is All Night, and seventy three, 313 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: and I got somehow got this book of poetry written. 314 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: And when you're a sad and thoughtful child, you right, 315 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: you're right, You're right, You're right, You're right. That's funny. 316 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: Do you write more than you read? Um at the moment, yeah, 317 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: although I don't know now. I read medical books. I 318 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: just I devoured them because I need to be up 319 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 1: on all that. But I'm also passionate about that anyway. Um, 320 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: I just hand Johnny Carson this book of mine because 321 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: it had a picture of me on the front. That 322 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: was Wednesday three, I don't remember the month, Friday night, 323 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: and that week I made my television national television debut 324 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: on The Tonight Show, and I thought, oh my god, 325 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: they must have loved my poetry. So I didn't own 326 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: a dress, as you can imagine, So I went out 327 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 1: and I wrote it, wrote a bad check for a 328 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: a dress, seventy five dollars. But when you're you know, 329 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: twenty years old, seventy five dress looks great on you. 330 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: And um, I'm standing behind that thing was curtain, and 331 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: I hear Johnny Carson say, well, we've all been wondering 332 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: who the mysterious blonde in the Thunderbird was, and I thought, oh, 333 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: it's not the poetry. I only had one credit. I appeared, 334 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: you know, in a five seconds spot in American Raffeitti. 335 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: He said, well we found her, and the curtain opened 336 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: and the audience went. I hadn't even seen American graffitti 337 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: at that time. I didn't know that how iconic it 338 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: became and still is to this day. And I went 339 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: out and nervously giggled and answered literally everything. You know, 340 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: he said, when you get to town, I said today. 341 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: I was like a little kid. You know, if you 342 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: talk to a kid on the phone, but what are 343 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: you doing? They go talking on the phone. He likes me, 344 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: and he started having me on every month to read 345 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 1: him poetry, and my little Book of Poetry became the 346 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: best selling book of poetry in America next to Rod 347 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: McEwen in nine seventy three. Oh my, On one or 348 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: many of those times, the president of ABC, Fred Silverman, 349 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: as he tells me, was watching and they had cast 350 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: Chrissie Snow the part. I eventually had on three company 351 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: with two different actresses, and they neither of them tested 352 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: well and Fred Silverman told me, he said, I got 353 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: the girl. I see her on the Tonight show all 354 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 1: the time. And so that's how I got called in 355 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: for Three's Company. No training had the leading guys and 356 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: dolls in high school. That was about it. Um. I 357 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: think what happened on Threees Company is day one. I 358 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: sat there and I thought, I just got a fess. 359 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: I said, I am, I don't even know how I 360 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: got here. I've never studied acting, but I learned real fast. 361 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: And I think that pissed everybody off because Joyce had, 362 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: you know, gone to U C l A and she 363 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: won all the awards, and John, you know, was highly 364 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: credentialed and studied. Um, so when the show took off 365 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: and I kind of emerged along with John as you 366 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: know what that show is about. Because I got it 367 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: right away. I figured out what it was. It created 368 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: attention on the set um, not with John, but with Joyce, 369 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: if I recall, and I don't like to put words 370 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: in her mouth, but that's what I picked up. And um, 371 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: and I don't blame her here. I am no, no, 372 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: I've never studied anything, and she's all she's done is study. 373 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: To this day, I'm sure she still takes classes or 374 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 1: teaches or whatever. She's technically great, But isn't that a 375 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: lesson in people going with their instincts something? It's back 376 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: to paralysis. I mean analysis is paralysis, meaning you know, 377 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: there are many trained actors that are very resentful of 378 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: the whole reality television space because it seems like a 379 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: free ride. But you know, I've done shows that are 380 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: not in reality television, and not that they haven't been 381 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: as good there. There. It is an art form in 382 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: and of itself, whether respected or not. Everything now can 383 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: be creation. And that's so interesting what you're saying, Like 384 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 1: it doesn't there doesn't have to be a guide book 385 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: for everything, which can be liberating for people. Hard is 386 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: the guide book in my opinion. Hard. You definitely were 387 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: taking it seriously. You're probably on time, knowing all your 388 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: lines and had your act together. No I did, and 389 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: and and uh you know like you you uh took 390 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 1: took that reality environment and what you knew what to 391 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,239 Speaker 1: do and what to do in reality is how do 392 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: you achieve being yourself? Well, you just said that you 393 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: got what it was. So for people at home, it 394 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you're talking about an office or a 395 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: job or a new problem. You got what what? That's 396 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: what just jumped off the page. You've got what? Oh 397 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: I understand, I'm not. I'm not stuck in it, like 398 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: my face so deep into it that I don't understand 399 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: what it is overthinking it. Because that's how I would 400 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: be an actress. I would be overthinking it. I would 401 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: be too, I would be joystill, I would have a 402 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: difficulty to be just free. But for some reason, you 403 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: were young and ignorance against was bliss and and and 404 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: like me in the liquor business, you just understood what 405 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: the gig was and what the energy, and you didn't 406 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: overthink it, but you took the brass tacks of it 407 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: very seriously. And also, I'm working with two real genius 408 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: comic actors. I remember it took me to a year two, 409 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: but the show was already number one, so they were 410 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: liking what I was doing. But it was all kind of, 411 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: you know, by the seat of my pants. But by 412 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: year till watching John one day and I had nirvana. 413 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: I thought, oh, comedy is musical. I am musical. It's 414 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: set up, set up, beat, And then I created I 415 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: because I remember thinking, oh, dumb blondes are so unlikable. 416 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: I created a dumb blonde that was likable and lovable. 417 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: She had a moral coach. She'd never lied, she'd never 418 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: take away your husband or boyfriend. She was easily shocked 419 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: um and people got who she was. And I gave 420 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: her a posture, you know, with the shoulders up and 421 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: the knees in. And when I watched little girls, they 422 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: were always twiddling their fingers. So Chrissie Snow twiddled her fingers, 423 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: you know, all the time while she was thinking, and 424 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: people just started um anticipating what she was going to 425 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: do next. When we would do a show on Friday nights, 426 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: they would laugh before I would say it or do it. 427 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: And that's when I knew I've I've handled this. But then, 428 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: you know, year one, I I don't I signed on 429 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: for anything. If you don't want to pay me, don't 430 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: to pay me. But by year six, I, you know, 431 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: became aware I'm on the number one show. I have 432 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: the highest demographics of any woman in television. And the 433 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: men are making ten to fifteen times more than me, 434 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: are they ten to fifteen times funnier or better than me? 435 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: And so my contract was up. I had to renegotiate. 436 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,959 Speaker 1: My husband went in on my behalf and um I 437 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: was waiting at home. Uh, because there was no cell 438 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: phones at the time. Imagine, and I hear the front 439 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: door open real slow. That's not a good sign. I 440 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: hear coming up the stairs very slowly. That's not good. 441 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: I would meet him at the landing and he looks 442 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 1: at me. He said, you're out. I said amount. He said, 443 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: you were fired within the first five minutes I was there. 444 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: He said, they're gonna make an example of you. So 445 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: no other woman has the audacity to ask you take 446 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: commensurate with them in you're on six seasons and then 447 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: you were upset. I bet you could have gone back 448 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: in some way if you put your tail between your legs, 449 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: but you decided to jump and fly. So I want 450 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: to hear sort of about that ar because that's not 451 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: easy for people when you have a safety net. People 452 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: on housewives are making a lot of money now, and 453 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: I could go back tomorrow. I still choose to separate myself, 454 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: to grow and to not be there. You know, you 455 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 1: still respecting where I came from. So I want to 456 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,719 Speaker 1: hear about that arc for you and what that feels 457 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: like and what that is and that takes courage. And 458 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: by the way, your idea for skinny girls, that was 459 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: just inspired. Um, you know, it's all about having a 460 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: great idea. I wanted to go back to I didn't 461 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: want to be fired. I was devastated. But they slammed 462 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: that door, and then, like with mom fury that the 463 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: whole cast and crew and everybody involved with that show, 464 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: uh turned on me and shunned me. I remember walking 465 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: down Rodeo Avenue one day and the wardrobe by who 466 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: we worked out the Prissie snow look, you know, with 467 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: the ponytails and the short shorts and the suspenders and 468 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: the knee socks and all that. We had so much 469 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: fun doing that. He saw me turn the other way 470 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: across the street. I'm thinking, well, so, I don't know 471 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: what the producers told um, the cast and crew, but man, 472 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: did they work against me. The the producer, because when 473 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: I came in it was Nichols Ross and West Mickey Ross. Um. Interesting, 474 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: he kind of looks like my husband looks today. His 475 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: hair was kind of silver and curly, that great way 476 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: that men's hair gets in the tan and then and 477 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: got muscles and all that. Uh, Nicky wasn't anything like that, 478 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: but reminds me of it. And uh, he became when 479 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: I said I don't know what I'm doing, he took 480 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 1: me under his wing. I remember watching the Olympics when 481 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: you're Nadia Koma Niche and her coach, and she wouldn't 482 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: do anything without looking at him, for she would go 483 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: flip and turn and do and then she turned to 484 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: look at him and he'd be seeing. He'd go like this, 485 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: and so Lippy Ross would do that with me. He would, 486 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: you know, I do a scene. I then I booked 487 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,239 Speaker 1: to him and he'd go like this, or he'd go 488 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: thumbs up. One day after I heard you know, oh 489 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: this is music, I didn't need him anymore and it 490 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: made him so angry with me. And then I married 491 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: Alan Hamill. And what I realized in retrospect, because it 492 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: was Alan Hamill negotiating with this guy over my contract, 493 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: this guy had fallen in love with me the way 494 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: of father desires his daughter but knows it's wrong that 495 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 1: he didn't come on to me. But in retrospect, if 496 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: I think about how he was with me, controlling back 497 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: to the control, yeah, exactly was there there you go, 498 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: and I've fell right into it. So Um, that's why 499 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: I couldn't go back. It was because it was ego, 500 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: egos ruining the best deals, as you know, and everybody's 501 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: egos were out of whack. Uh. In fact, I was 502 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: cleaning out a raw yesterday because I'm moving from my 503 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: house of forty five years, and I found a letter 504 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: that I wrote to John after that of why what John? 505 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: You and I and we it was so great and 506 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: we were the greatest sparring team. It was like a 507 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: ping pong ball game. He'd banged across the table and 508 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: I bang it back and what happened and why? But 509 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: but I didn't think about until yesterday. Newsweek, remember when 510 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: Newsweek was the biggest magazine in the country. Weekly came 511 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: to put Three's Company on the cover, and the producers, 512 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: who were just jerks. They should have just been open 513 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: with everybody. We all go down there and they want 514 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: me and my little Chrissie Teddy at which I still have. 515 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: By the way, one of the things I did take. Um, 516 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: he the photographer sets us up, uh, and he keeps 517 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: putting me in the middle and kind of in the 518 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: highest spot in the middle, and I'm uncomfortable, and I 519 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: can tell the other two are getting angry and I'm no, 520 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 1: So I moved to the side and let Joyce be 521 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: in the middle of the tug for take a couple 522 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: of pictures. Okay, Joyce, you go down here today and 523 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: get in the middle, and I then do it with John. 524 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: Put John in the middle, and well it comes out. 525 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: The magazine comes out. At that time, it was the 526 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: highest selling cover of Newsweek. I'm wearing this little blue 527 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 1: teddy with the strap hanging off, and John was biting 528 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: one shoulder, and Joyce was kind of down at my hip, 529 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: and it was clearly I was the center stage. That 530 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: were never quite the same after that, So that when 531 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: I then got up in the and asked to be paid, 532 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: you know, commensurate with the men I'll be at, my 533 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: contract was up. I had to renegotiate. I think it 534 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: was easy for everyone to fall in anger with me. 535 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: Joyce had been angry all along, or how dare you? 536 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: I'm all, I've got all the credentials, Pseudo and John, 537 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: and I'm supposed to be the star of the show. 538 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: And what I said in the letter yesterday that I 539 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: was reading that is what thirty five years old. I 540 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: keep stuff um, there was room startom. There's a room 541 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: for everybody with Starter. Because you're only a start You're 542 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: completely unique. So I don't know something. I'm terribly wrong. 543 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: None of them ever talked to me again. One month 544 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: before John Ridder died, I'm at the beauty salon and 545 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: I'm in the shampoo bowl and the receptionist comes up 546 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: and she says, you have a phone call. And I said, 547 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: thank you. Can you take a message? She said, well, 548 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: it's John Ridder. Huh. So I go to the phone 549 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: with my dripping head and um, I said John, And 550 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,719 Speaker 1: he said, hey, babe, I forgive you. So I had 551 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: a moment of whoa, whoa, you forgive me? And then 552 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: I thought, put on your big girl pants, Suzanne, So 553 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: I said thank you. So what he was calling about 554 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: was he was doing that TV series Eight Simple Rules, 555 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: and he said, we have a scene we want to do. 556 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: It's a night I'm having a nightmare and in my nightmare, 557 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: you enjoyce app here. And I said, you know, there's 558 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: been a longing for the two of us to reunite. 559 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: I don't think that longing. It really encompasses that I'm 560 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: your nightmare, right right, I said, But I would love 561 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: to work with you again. Why don't we find a project? 562 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: And we talked for a while and you said yeah, 563 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: And then a month later he died. So I did 564 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: have resolution with it. First of all, play cating to 565 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: people that are jealous of you and trying to eat 566 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: level the playing field, which you said in a different way, 567 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: though it doesn't. Now you're spending your energy trying to 568 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: like water yourself down and darm yourself down to what's 569 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: going on. You were not always going to get the 570 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: chance to be successful at things. I've failed at more 571 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: things than I've succeeded at. But it's very uncomfortable to 572 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: work when you're aware that the elephant in the rooms 573 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: people are envious of you, and then you are also 574 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: aware that when you left, the secret sauce was missing, 575 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: and so are they. That drives them crazy even more. 576 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: I left, the ratings car went down a lot. They 577 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: begged me back. Then the cast want to be back. 578 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: We've been through similar things, So I would say advice 579 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: is probably like for people just too. You have to 580 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: play your own game and just be a good person, 581 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: but you can't control what other people are thinking and doing, 582 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: especially when you're thriving, you are extremely astute. The secret sauce, 583 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: I've never thought of it that way, but that is 584 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: it messed up the recipe. I watched it, and I 585 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: watched the other pretty cute, dumb blonde come in, and 586 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: it just wasn't the same. She was lovely. It just 587 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: was what it was. But that was your moment in time. 588 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: And had you focused more on everybody else being jealous 589 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: and making them feel better, you probably wouldn't have succeeded. 590 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: So then nobody's going to do well. So if you're 591 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: at work and you're thriving, be a team player. Be 592 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: kind to other people, but run your own race. And 593 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: Allen and I were such a strong team, and he 594 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: had He's such a visionary and he always sees everything 595 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: many years down the road. I remember when I opened 596 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: in Vegas and I had all the you know, the 597 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: twenties five piece orchestra and the the twelve dancers and 598 00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: the ten costume changed and it was such a sick 599 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: sets I remember whatnot. I came off stage and he said, 600 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: I see a time when it'll just be you out 601 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: there by yourself. I thought, not when? When? Why? And 602 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: now I mainly go out solo by myself when your 603 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: whole career seems like a solo act. For sure. Yeah, 604 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: if I'm doing my nightclub act like I had a 605 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: residency in Vegas two years ago and I loved it 606 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: at the West Gate. I had my piano, drums, bass, um, 607 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: two horns and um, incredible sounded lights and a seven 608 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: D fifty seat room, nice intimate room. I loved, loved it. 609 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: But I remember when I being out there thinking, here, 610 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: I am all by myself, just as Alan always said. 611 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: But in the Three's Company days, I slash. We saw 612 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: Three's Company as a business bonanza. And I went to 613 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: the producers and I said, you know, Christie Snow should 614 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: be a Saturday Morning animated cartoon. Wow. And then I 615 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: went another time. I said, Chrissie Snow wears these distinct clothes. 616 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: We should do a line of clothing. Oh wow is right. Wow. 617 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: I'm an entrepreneur like you. And I remember this guy 618 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: Nicky Ross got screamed at me. He said, this is 619 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: not about business, It's about this show. And I thought, 620 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: with gods, show business, and so it's interesting. After I 621 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: got fired and I became a Vegas headliner, Um, I 622 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: started writing books during the day because I had nothing 623 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: to do during the day. And then this woman presented 624 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: us with the device and it was called a v Toner, 625 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: and Alan and I are looking at this device as 626 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: she's describing for your upper body and for your pectorals 627 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: and shoulders and everything, and I said, would that work 628 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: on the inner thighs? And she said, oh yeah, she said, 629 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: but it's you know, people are more concerned about those shoulders. 630 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: I said, not women. Women don't like those jig leave thighs. 631 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: So we decided to We named it the thigh Master. 632 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: We decided to run with it. So one night, I'm 633 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: in my dressing room and I bought a pair of 634 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure you have two those Manola blonde shoes. Perfect. 635 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: They're just nude, perfect pointy toe, the perfect total leavage, 636 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: the right arch, the perfect sized heel, and they make 637 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 1: your legs look amazing. So but they're what at that time, 638 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: five dollars and I'm in my dress whom I thought, 639 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: Oh god, Alansman, I think I'm so stupid for spending 640 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: almost six hundred bucks on a pair of shoes. So 641 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: I walked out of my dressing room with my broad 642 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: underpants and I said do you like my new shoes? 643 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: And he looks me up and down. He has this 644 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: great radio voice and those great legs, and I said, 645 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 1: that's the commercial. And that became the commercial, the commercial 646 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: that sold ten million thigh maunters and masters in County. 647 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 1: UM started on those shoes. So I was able to, uh, 648 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: you know, write them off, go up my leg. I 649 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: wore a blue lea hard and I had the red 650 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: brend blue thime Master and gave the little pitch. And 651 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: it was at a time when people weren't doing commercials, 652 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: celebrities weren't doing commercials. Um late night talk shows were 653 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: doing thime Master jokes. I mean David Letterman was doing 654 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: thime Master jokes for a while, Carson was doing thi 655 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: Master jokes, and Late j Letto was doing thime Master jokes. 656 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: And at the momentum just kept kept. You know, you 657 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: have the right name, It's like it's like skinny wow. 658 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 1: When you get the right name, it catches the imagination 659 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,760 Speaker 1: of the public. So we have so much in common. 660 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: I've never I've never interviewed someone that I that I 661 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: can like find something that is a connective piece. Where 662 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: when I came out with the cocktail. As a woman, 663 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: every publicist used to say when you were taking pictures, 664 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: put your cocktail down. You can't be holding a cocktail 665 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: a picture. Now every single celebrity is holding a cocktail. 666 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: So you you know the form and grill was after 667 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: you assume yes, yeah, okay, so that was revolutionary. I mean, 668 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 1: you know, there were those like infomercials, but it wasn't 669 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: people that we knew of from TV. So was that? 670 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: So I now know that you're entertaining and your vegas 671 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: and your shows are your more your passion and you 672 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: being a woman is where all of that sort of 673 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: medical knowledge comes from in that experience, But it feels 674 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: like you really are absolutely an entrepreneur at heart. And 675 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: was that your biggest financial hit by far? When you're 676 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, as you know, you hope for a time master, 677 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: I've got another. I've got a hit right now. If 678 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:42,240 Speaker 1: you listen, if you listen to the language of the people, 679 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: they tell you what they want. And I have these 680 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: spacebook live shows, and um, all the compearing is I'm 681 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: loaded and constipated, and I'm tired, and my hair is 682 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: stringy and my skin doesn't look good. And it was 683 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 1: clear because I had I had written a book called 684 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: Toxic about what all the toxins are doing to our 685 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: GI tracks, and then I wrote the next book followed 686 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: that theme, and UM, so we created a product called Renew. 687 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: It's not everything in it that you didn't have today 688 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: or I didn't have today, And for lack of a 689 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: better description, all the different things that are in it 690 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 1: all from nature worked like speckle on those holes in 691 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: the g I track and kind of seal up the leaks. 692 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 1: There are recipes on there, but even you can even 693 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: put it with water. I have it with My favorite 694 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 1: one is UM frozen banana, A spoonful of chocolate UM, 695 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: some organic yogurt, coconut milk and chocolate almond milk and 696 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,760 Speaker 1: two spoons of this, and you whip it all together. 697 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: And it's so easy to get all your vitamins down 698 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: that way because it's thick, but it's tasty and and 699 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: good for you. It's amazing. It's amazing. I love that 700 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 1: I went to school for food and healing. I'm a 701 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: natural food chef, so I love all of this, and 702 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 1: I love that you care about all this and that 703 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: you're so health focused but in a balanced realistic way again. 704 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: I remember the Susanne. You had the Susanne Summer's Diet, 705 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: which was like a more modern healthy version of the 706 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: Atkins diet where people were just like eating their weight 707 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,240 Speaker 1: and steak and bacon and it was crazy steak, bacon 708 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: and cheese, which was not healthy at all. And then 709 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: you came out in a more reasonable way about food 710 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: combining Yah, high fat, high vegetable, high protein, but good fat. Yeah, 711 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: including butter as long as organic. Right, Yeah, I remember 712 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: it was great. I remember that. Yeah, I've been following 713 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: you for years without even sort of I forgot that 714 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: I was I would try that diet. Yeah. Keeping your 715 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: cards close to the vest seems like it's been something 716 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 1: that you've definitely done in your career, and I think 717 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: that that's important, important for people. Meaning you aren't telling 718 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: everybody your whole plan. You just were sort of keeping 719 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: your head down. Not only in your character Chrissy, but 720 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: as a professional, do you um consider what percentage do 721 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: you consider yourself lucky and what percentage smart? I think 722 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: anyone who hits it as an entrepreneur or a star 723 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,280 Speaker 1: in a television series, it's right time, right place, right look, 724 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 1: and luck. Luck always plays it. There are a lot 725 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: of people, you know who've got everything going for themselves 726 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: who have never had that luck. But it's not that 727 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: I didn't pursue it like you. You've pursued yours, you know. 728 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: Um uh, I'm struck by how a student you are, 729 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,879 Speaker 1: that you're you've got what are you like, fifty years old? Yes, 730 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: I just turned fifty. Um, you've got perspective of someone 731 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:41,760 Speaker 1: more my age. Um. Yeah. It takes a long time 732 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: to get that perspective, to be able to look down 733 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 1: on things like, ah, yeah, I've been there that I know, yes, yes, yes, 734 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: and figure out how it worked in the whole scheme 735 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: of things. Well, I had a crazy life too. I 736 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: was literally I was going into nightclubs and when I 737 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: was thirteen years old, like literally and going into so yeah, 738 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: it's with fourteen. I kind of had a crazy stuff 739 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: going on my house and I was five, six and seven, 740 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 1: and like you know, I'd be calling the cops. And 741 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: it's interesting. This show is the best thing I've ever done. 742 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: I love it so much because I get to have 743 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 1: a conversation like this and my fiance. This morning, I 744 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: was talking to Susanne Summers today and He's like, I 745 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: love the variety of people because it's unpredictable. I literally 746 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 1: could have Hillary Clinton, you, and then someone that is 747 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 1: running Comcast that no one's ever heard of. But I 748 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: find their story interesting because it's about being an entrepreneur 749 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: and had a breakthrough in a corporate environment. So to 750 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 1: be able to speak to people like you, and also 751 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: to talk to this audience a little bit about me 752 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: through you, like through the guests, I get to explain 753 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: a little bit of what I've been through. I'm never 754 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: really talking about myself. It's more about like connecting to 755 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: you and then then then them getting a little information 756 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 1: about me, um and relationships. One thing. Sorry, I've been 757 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: very aware of you for a long time, but today's 758 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 1: the day I got I get you, I get you 759 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: who you are, and I'm really really pleased to meet you. 760 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: Well me too, say likewise, that's and that's been an 761 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 1: amazing gift for me, just meaning some fascinating people and 762 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: being like, wow, we just we just turned their whole 763 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 1: career into some anecdotal thing and then you That's what 764 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: the show is about. Hearing like the blood, sweat and tears, 765 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 1: the hard work, the simplicity of why you're successful, even 766 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: though it's it's not that complicated. It's just these tools 767 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 1: that other people can have for themselves and make their 768 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: own tool box. Don't you find in the careers that 769 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,879 Speaker 1: we have, they're cyclical, they're high, they're low, they're high, 770 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: they're low. You learn the most about yourself and where 771 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,320 Speaker 1: you want to go next in during the low times, 772 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,240 Speaker 1: right for most people spend those loads of times feeling 773 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: sorry for themselves. I use it as prep time because 774 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 1: I always know go up again. But I don't know 775 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,439 Speaker 1: about you, but I can feel when it's going to 776 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: start to dip. And now I'm not dipping so much anymore. 777 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: When I feel that slide, I think I've gone as 778 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: far as I can go to this one. I turned 779 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 1: to the right or to the left and reinvent. Don't 780 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: you crazy? I call it the wool was like, you know, 781 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,280 Speaker 1: you don't want to get too high in your own supply. 782 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,800 Speaker 1: Things are going too well. It's not that you're negative, 783 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: but it's like, please, don't everybody think I'm so great 784 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: or I'm doing things that are so great. Like I 785 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 1: wanted to quiet down a little, and then the wolves come, 786 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: and but that's when the muscle was weak, and you 787 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: need to learn how to be fit. And that's when 788 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, let me hold this steering wheel. Not 789 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,919 Speaker 1: too tight where I can't move, and not too loose 790 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: where I let go. Let me steer the car. And 791 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,320 Speaker 1: that's when you learned. That's what you were just describing 792 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 1: like And so now you're right, you could sort of 793 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 1: feel it. They're not big jerk emotions. You're just kind 794 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 1: of riding a difficult highway. I could not. That's that 795 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: was like beyond exactly. And I've been on the verge 796 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 1: of cancelation and I've had crazy things happen. And during 797 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: the during the pandemic with us trying to get ppe, uh, 798 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 1: you know, being over my skis with millions of dollars 799 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: and people trying to scam us, and you know, really 800 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: having to like kick in. You're dealing with governments, dealing 801 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 1: with Governor Cuomo, and you're like, I'm in the big 802 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 1: leagues now I cannot screw up. That's when you really 803 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: find out what you're made of, you know. So I 804 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,240 Speaker 1: love that you just said that you have gotten yourself 805 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,800 Speaker 1: into a position that I've gotten myself and I'll be 806 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 1: in a different arena. You now know you can call anybody. Yes, 807 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 1: you're like my soul mate. This is so weird. I 808 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: always say that because you don't always need all the 809 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: agents you can. If you want to get him, you 810 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: want to do something a Netflix, you would probably call 811 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 1: Ted Sorrandos. He may not know you, but he knows 812 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 1: who you are. He'll take your call. I sat next 813 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 1: to him at the dinner party several years ago and 814 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: I didn't know who he was, and he wasn't introduced 815 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,760 Speaker 1: to me, but he's my dinner partner. And I said, 816 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 1: what do you do? He said, I'm with Netflix, and 817 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 1: I went, oh, I'm glad I can't get mine to work. 818 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 1: And I saw've got Ted Surrandos saying, well, you gotta 819 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 1: get the box to do the stuff. I didn't know 820 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: he owned Netflix. Um, what is your uh, your rose 821 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: and your thorn of your career? Not your life of 822 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,919 Speaker 1: your I've only took more questions, but one is rose 823 00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: and thorn of your career? He rose? Um, hm, the 824 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 1: rose is always on stage. The last time I was 825 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: on stage here, right before the pandemic. There's a great 826 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 1: theater down here in the desert called the McCallum, and 827 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: there's a Leon Russell song that I sing and I 828 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: sing it to my husband, although I don't say that 829 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 1: to the audience. And I talked about lyrics is poetry 830 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 1: and that Leon Russell has written some of the most 831 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 1: beautiful songs, and the song that I sang is a 832 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: song for you. I've been so many places in my 833 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 1: life and time, and I've sung a lot of songs. 834 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: I've made some bad rhyme, I've acted out my life 835 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,240 Speaker 1: on stages with ten thousand people watching. But we're alone, 836 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 1: and I'm singing this song for you. I don't know. 837 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: I was on stage and you could not hear a 838 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 1: pin drop. It's the most quiet experience I've ever experienced 839 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,400 Speaker 1: personally in a theater. Because I think setting it up, 840 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 1: I said, you'll all, here's something different these lyrics. It 841 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: means something different to all of this, and I could 842 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 1: tell they all went within and when I finished, there 843 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 1: was a silent pause and then all of a sudden 844 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 1: everyone stood up and gave me a standing ovation. So 845 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 1: that's my wow, that was my favorite moment on stage. 846 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,280 Speaker 1: So the so it sounds like you have a tremendous 847 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,240 Speaker 1: I talk a lot about quote unquote successful relationships, meaning 848 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 1: successful relationships between successful people. And so before I was 849 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 1: going to ask if you've worked on it, But from 850 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:36,720 Speaker 1: all the people that have been on here, I've gotten 851 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:41,439 Speaker 1: different pieces of advice on relationships from give them a 852 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 1: long leash, to let them, you know, be who they are. 853 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 1: I'm who I am. We have date nights. We don't 854 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 1: do this. We don't expect for it to be. We 855 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 1: don't care what other people think or what optics are. 856 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: So what would you say about having a quote unquote 857 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:58,720 Speaker 1: successful relationship. I've been with him now for fifty four years. 858 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 1: I am in love, in love. I wonder how many 859 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: times we tell each other we love each other throughout 860 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,319 Speaker 1: the day. We sleep wrapped in one another's arms. I 861 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: have a terrible accident this year. I broke my neck 862 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,879 Speaker 1: and my spine and my hip, and he took care 863 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 1: of me in the most tender, loving way. He lifted me, 864 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,799 Speaker 1: He did everything for me for months because I was 865 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,839 Speaker 1: They had said you need to get a have her 866 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,959 Speaker 1: stay in some assistant living or get her live in nurse, 867 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 1: and Alan said, I'm the nurse. I'm the nurse. So 868 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,839 Speaker 1: I've always loved Alan, but I'm more in love he Uh, 869 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 1: I know he adores me and I adore him, and 870 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 1: I love feeding him. I'm a real good cook, so 871 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 1: I cooked great meals for him and I there's no 872 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,279 Speaker 1: one I would rather be with. You think as you 873 00:46:55,360 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 1: get older, um, you know it's uh, you don't give 874 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 1: to get, but when you give, you get. And so 875 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 1: these Facebook live shows that I do during the week 876 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 1: three Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and uh, Allen, you know the 877 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 1: the New Home Studios. It's like it's me and Alan 878 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,360 Speaker 1: and then my daughter in law who's the president of 879 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 1: our company. She's on speaker phone, but he comes over 880 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 1: and he gets on camera, and the women love him. 881 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: And he's kind of a bad boy and he never 882 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,360 Speaker 1: says what you're supposed to say, always says what he 883 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 1: wants to say. He just doesn't b s and he's 884 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 1: never going to be s A. Oh they just wish 885 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 1: they had someone like him. But what I what I 886 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 1: get out of these shows? Besides I get to teach, 887 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 1: I get to tell them about hormones. I get to 888 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 1: talk about my organic skin Caroline, how important I think 889 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 1: it is not to put chemicals on your skin or 890 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,400 Speaker 1: in your body at all. And but what they see 891 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 1: is this relationship. I realized I touched his base all 892 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 1: the time, and we say nice things to one another, 893 00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 1: and he leans in and he he jokingly is always 894 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 1: snicking my hair. Kind of a take on Biden. That's funny. 895 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 1: That's putting good out in the world, isn't it? Well? 896 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,239 Speaker 1: It is? But has it always been like that? Has 897 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,799 Speaker 1: it grown? Have you? Okay? That's what I think. That's 898 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,719 Speaker 1: what people need to hear. That what you haven't been 899 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 1: madly in love for fifty years, like like a fairy 900 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 1: tale that you took work that you've either been through 901 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 1: therapy that you didn't you took them for granted or 902 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 1: vice versa, like you know, or unless it was just 903 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: a love affair from the day one, and then we 904 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,320 Speaker 1: all can go seeal the windows and turn on the gas. 905 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:39,400 Speaker 1: But whatever whatever it is, it was, honestly, it was 906 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 1: love at first sight. I told my mother and the 907 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,799 Speaker 1: man I'm got married. It took ten years before we 908 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 1: got married. They were too. They were the sexiest, most romantic, 909 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 1: most tumultuous ten years. And then in the last of 910 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,360 Speaker 1: those few years where we started bringing the families together, 911 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 1: his two children with my son man, there's no kid 912 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 1: who wants a new parent. I don't care how nice year, 913 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 1: They don't want a new character. So my son was 914 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 1: resenting him because my son was used to getting all 915 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 1: his attention from me and vice versa. And so that's 916 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 1: when we fought, because you feel protective of your own 917 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 1: kid and you know you're not understanding him, and well, 918 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 1: you're not understanding my kids. It wasn't until we actually 919 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 1: got married that they finally realized that we were a 920 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,799 Speaker 1: united front, that they weren't going to break us up. 921 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 1: And then we worked real hard on becoming a real 922 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 1: family and achieved it. So it was a lot of work. 923 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,759 Speaker 1: It's a process that blending that is a process. It's 924 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 1: something to get through, and it doesn't last forever. You've 925 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 1: been together fifty years. That was literally probably what seven 926 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 1: to ten years of your life. Yeah, and usually, if usually, 927 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,879 Speaker 1: most people don't make it through that because nobody knew 928 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 1: what they were doing. We should have all been in therapy. 929 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 1: And eventually one of my my stepdaughter had a drug 930 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 1: problem and she had to be in the care unit, 931 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,800 Speaker 1: and as a part of the care unit, the whole 932 00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,399 Speaker 1: family has to check in for a week. And that 933 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 1: was a very very valuable family weak where everybody got 934 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,400 Speaker 1: to have their moment in front of a neutral arbitrator 935 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 1: across from whoever they were having the issues with and 936 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,680 Speaker 1: say exactly what they felt. Nobody's feelings were hurt because 937 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 1: the therapist would go out. Now you have to hear 938 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,399 Speaker 1: what he's saying. Listen and listen to the tone, look 939 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 1: at his body language. I firmly believe that all negatives 940 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,920 Speaker 1: are opportunities. If you choose to look at it that way, 941 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 1: you can either say poor me, why me? Or you 942 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 1: can look at it say how can I use this 943 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 1: to grow spiritually and emotionally, Because it's not the problems 944 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 1: in your life that define who you are, and how 945 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 1: you respond to the problems in your life zactly define 946 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 1: who you are as a person. And I learned to 947 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 1: sell my problems. I realize I'm not unique. You and 948 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 1: I have the same problems, and so many people out there, 949 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 1: men and women. And so when you have gotten on 950 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,719 Speaker 1: the other side of your issue, if you have a 951 00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,319 Speaker 1: louder voice like you do and I do, and you 952 00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,440 Speaker 1: can share you know what it was like, what it became, 953 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,560 Speaker 1: and what it's like now. And now I'm experiencing bliss. 954 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,920 Speaker 1: They want what you have and it makes going through 955 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 1: the experience worthwhile, not only for yourself but for those 956 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,880 Speaker 1: who learning growth from it. Wow, that is an amazing 957 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,359 Speaker 1: place to stop. I could talk to you for this 958 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 1: is now you've broken my record. I think you and 959 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,920 Speaker 1: Kelly Rob I've spoken to for the longest because it's 960 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:26,239 Speaker 1: just it was such an easy conversation, such amazing, beautiful discussion. 961 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Okay, say goodbye, EL, goodbye bye, 962 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:42,239 Speaker 1: a good day. I might have a new favorite interview UM. 963 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 1: And my fiance Paul was saying to me today, I 964 00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,319 Speaker 1: love the variety of people you have on like it's 965 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 1: it's it's so specific and intentional, but it could almost 966 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:55,240 Speaker 1: seem haphazard, because you know, having Dana White, the founder 967 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,200 Speaker 1: of the UFC, and then you know we booked Cameron 968 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 1: Diaz in a couple of weeks, or UM, Dave Portnoy, 969 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,799 Speaker 1: it almost seems random, but it's not. It's specific, and 970 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 1: I see something about myself in each of these people. 971 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 1: I think the most, Uh in Suzanne Summers, that was 972 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 1: crazy and unreal. What a fascinating woman, what a journey. 973 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 1: She's so real, she's so honest, she's just real, someone 974 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,880 Speaker 1: who's had such a long career on the entertainment industry. 975 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,000 Speaker 1: I just loved it. So thank you for listening. Remember 976 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,320 Speaker 1: to rate, review and subscribe. That was my Rose. That 977 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:26,840 Speaker 1: was amazing.