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Speaker 1: This episode of Bustle with the Boys. The Boys is

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Speaker 1: presented by Barstool Sports. Oh dude, I'm fired up.

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Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, you can't. You don't have to see me one. Hello, Hello, Hello,

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Speaker 2: there it is. He's on this thing. Yo. This this

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Speaker 2: is this is the this is the marriage that people

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Speaker 2: wanted to see. You guys like my shirt shirt.

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Speaker 3: I would suck it most of the time because that

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Speaker 3: angle does hit you at an awkward sign.

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Speaker 2: I have to worry about that. No, two years ago

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Speaker 2: I did. But now I feel like you lost some weight.

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Speaker 2: He got about twenty two two years ago, I old man,

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Speaker 2: dropped twenty two pounds. Man. Two years ago. I was

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Speaker 2: on a Southwest flight and you and your wife are

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Speaker 2: going down. We're going to you were going to Vegas

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Speaker 2: for Craig Stevens. No, it was crazy. Was going with

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Speaker 2: his brother. They were going to have a state. Yeah

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Speaker 2: you were okay, Yeah, it was a it was a

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Speaker 2: weird deal. You even remember that, Yeah, you know he

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Speaker 2: had that.

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Speaker 3: I was sober for that flight, and then I wasn't

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Speaker 3: sober again until the next five I went home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were going in there, you know, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: I don't remember what time of year. It was my

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Speaker 2: oldest son's coat. He was a defensive coordinator last year

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Speaker 2: at Southern Utah and they opened against you an l V.

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Speaker 2: So that might have been the trip. It was summer.

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Speaker 2: Maybe not have been because it was our season ended,

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Speaker 2: so I had to be okay late late January maybe yeah,

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Speaker 2: and there's really going there's I don't know, there's yeah.

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Speaker 2: We were probably going back to Montana or so, yeah,

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Speaker 2: so what's that? This is cool? You like to set up?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when did you first find out about busting? When

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Speaker 1: we were trying to tag you and get your attention

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Speaker 1: three days the store reached out and he actually actually

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Speaker 1: followed He either followed busting or something, uh minut back

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Speaker 1: because everybody was trying to flood his mentions to get

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Speaker 1: him a bust it. So we favorited a couple of things,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, we're stoked because we would

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Speaker 1: pub it back.

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Speaker 2: See the hard part when I found out about I

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Speaker 2: wasn't here. You know, I was a Montana So you

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Speaker 2: know it's kind of hard to do it. First off,

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Speaker 2: you guys, does some bullets here, man, let's get let's

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Speaker 2: let's let's go there right now. It is I watched

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Speaker 2: I watched Governor Lee this morning talk about the devastation here.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if you guys have had a

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Speaker 2: chance to go out and see it, but it is

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Speaker 2: it is sad. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I drove through Germantown yesterday. Did it's a yeah, And

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, Michael Russ and then a couple

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Speaker 3: of property see owns in Germantown have been have been

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Speaker 3: hit by the by the tornado and it's crazy. I

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Speaker 3: think the casualty is that twenty five people now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a few missing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, somebody posted a big list of people that they

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's just so sad and you know, and

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Speaker 2: and the governor was cool because he was talking about

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Speaker 2: you know, it's so sad and so devastating and people's

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Speaker 2: lives are going to be changed forever. But you know

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Speaker 2: what it's it's people come alive at this time. And

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Speaker 2: you know, I was even reading stuff about something that's

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Speaker 2: going on with the organization because I remember it brought

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Speaker 2: back memories because of ninety eight we had we had

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Speaker 2: one rip through here and so we got the guys

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Speaker 2: out and did some clean up and I'll never forget

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Speaker 2: or as a head as a young head coach, senior

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Speaker 2: starting franchise quarterback. I crank up a chainsaw and just

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Speaker 2: but I trusted that Steve knew how to do it

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Speaker 2: because he was a farm boy, you know. So we

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Speaker 2: got out and did a lot of work in the community.

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Speaker 2: And I'm if the listeners and the fans here are

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Speaker 2: are waiting, it's going to happen, you guys, or your organization, everybody,

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Speaker 2: even I'm thinking about getting some retired guys together and

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Speaker 2: putting a group. And you can't get in it too

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Speaker 2: soon because everybody's trying to figure out what's going on

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Speaker 2: and across is doing this. But all right, this is

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Speaker 2: going to be a year two years before you can

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Speaker 2: the stuff's rebuilt. But in a month or so, that's

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Speaker 4: Especially in Nashville. We were talking about that yesterday. He

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a three HL or mid day one.

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Speaker 1: But I heard his snippe and then I heard, like

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like the city of Nashville just is different,

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Speaker 1: it'll come around.

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Speaker 2: It wild.

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Speaker 3: It's wild how this city definitely picks up and takes

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Speaker 3: she's big in the community, and she's big on that,

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Speaker 3: just trying to help, whether it's for the homeless people

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Speaker 3: in Nashville or when the hurricanes struck Houston, she had

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Speaker 3: a friend of hers that their family was directly affected,

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Speaker 3: it's she has her little band of superhero friends and

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Speaker 3: they get together and Chipotle reached out, tell.

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Speaker 2: Us, yeah, we got Chipotle.

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Speaker 3: It was like a hundred burritos started going out and

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Speaker 3: giving out burritos and stuff like that. So trying to

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Speaker 3: start the initial help of just doing whatever you can.

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Speaker 3: And when you're putting into a position where you have

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Speaker 3: a podcast that's doing well and you know in this

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Speaker 3: community since twenty fourteen playing football, like, you have that

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Speaker 3: opportunity through the people you've meant to kind of you know,

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Speaker 3: exhaust those avenues and you get those people back on

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Speaker 2: What was cool. I'll kind of give you a little

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Speaker 2: history lesson. When we moved here from Houston, somebody had

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Speaker 2: told me that Vince Gill was doing a concert at

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Speaker 2: Franklin High School, Okay, to raise money for the high school.

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Speaker 2: If it was Gil went to a high school to

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Speaker 2: play a concert, right, that's pretty awesome, but to do

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Speaker 2: it for nothing to raise money, and so that was

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Speaker 2: kind of the groundwork for the organization. We moved here

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Speaker 2: the golf tournaments run their course and everybody's doing them.

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Speaker 2: So that's when we started the softball. Softball game, so

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Speaker 2: be really cool to pick it up again, Doubteah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: walk away walk off man, Well off, I just kind

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Speaker 2: of tried. Did you bring the fences in? No? No, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 4: It is a shot Sounds stadium.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well Sounds wasn't probably built that. Yeah, I reached it.

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Speaker 2: a great town and that's what it's it's all about.

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Speaker 2: There's you know, I mean people say this all the time.

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Speaker 2: You know, you move and uh, and I can speak

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Speaker 2: from experience. You know, I moved. I coached around a

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Speaker 2: of Philadelphia and so and then obviously moving here, you

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Speaker 2: move here and as soon as the movie event pulls up,

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Speaker 2: there's people coming in with cookies and just food and

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Speaker 2: and every you can imagine, all the neighbors are like

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Speaker 2: there to help you move in the East Coast, no disrespect.

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Speaker 2: They sit there and watch you crawl up the driveway

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Speaker 2: with refrigerator on your back. No question. It's a different world.

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Speaker 2: But but after over time they become really really good friends.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we had the floods that that

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Speaker 2: or something like that. But here talking about all that,

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Speaker 2: the stadium was up to the wall, top of the wall,

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Speaker 2: to the first row of the seats and a cool yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean it was to the top of the wall

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Speaker 2: and the city did such an amazing job, you know,

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Speaker 2: the the area around the facility and everything because of Cumberland.

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Speaker 2: They didn't know it was going to come over and

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Speaker 2: there's water all over. But you know, things settled down

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Speaker 3: That's that's it. I think whoever, I always always allude

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Speaker 3: to Butch because I think but is such an amazing

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Speaker 3: I think Nashville does such a great job of transitioning

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Speaker 3: from those things and like you said, just going right

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Speaker 3: back to business as usual. I mean I wasn't here

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Speaker 3: when way was you know, not really the place to be.

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Speaker 3: city to come in and revamp that whole thing. Really,

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Speaker 3: this whole city is there's not a lot of like

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Speaker 3: quote what bad areas like This city does a really

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Speaker 3: and you can kind of go anywhere and feel hands

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Speaker 3: the time. And the city it's caused, it's growing. Whoever

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Speaker 3: made the highway system is an idiot. But other than that, like, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: the growth of the city.

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Speaker 2: Work in Franklin to twenty minutes to sports Park twenty

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Speaker 2: minutes boom. Yeah, and you know, less than six months

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Speaker 2: and took me an hour and a half. Yeah, that's okay,

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's all everything's growing, that's crazy freaking everywhere. Yeah. Yeah, Well,

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Speaker 2: my son and daughter in law are going a little business.

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Speaker 2: They're flipping houses in East Nashville right now. And the

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Speaker 2: one they closed on on Friday was when I was

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Speaker 2: watching all this stuff go down, you know, the other night,

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Speaker 2: and I wasn't thinking about the house. But you know,

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Speaker 2: obviously you worry about the people and everybody there. But

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Speaker 2: I mean, this thing was just it was teed up

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Speaker 2: and lined up, and some reason he got in there

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Speaker 2: yesterday and everything was fine. But everybody has done such

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Speaker 2: an amazing job in the surrounding areas here, whether it's

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Speaker 2: German Town, even West Nashville, and then you know five

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Speaker 2: points in East Nashville and Mount Juliet's always just growing.

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Speaker 2: And you know this, this mother nature business is not

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Speaker 2: going to set it back very long. Now they'll overcome it.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because everybody's everybody. Everybody's rallying right now. But

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Speaker 2: it's like.

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Speaker 3: Business now, mom and pop, business shut down and go

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Speaker 3: help out. Yeah, you turn on one of four five.

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Speaker 3: I listen to them when I'm when something's going on

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Speaker 3: in the city, just to kind of get a vibe

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Speaker 3: of what's going on, and I pop that on. In

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Speaker 3: the whole day, it's all about the tornado. It's all

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Speaker 3: about people going helping other people and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: Buck Rising, Yeah, I mean everybody's texting Buck Rising. Shoutout

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Speaker 3: Buck Rising.

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Speaker 2: He's for the boys.

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Speaker 4: He's texting getting in touch with the Chipotle people.

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Speaker 1: We were out running around doing something and you're like

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Speaker 1: trying to communicate with everybody, Butcher is calling.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's just everyone always comes to help.

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Speaker 2: Season ended. We moved into the new stadium. Wow. And

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Speaker 2: and you know, and upset and they're losing their you

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Speaker 4: Like you you can yeah, and then you've got to

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Speaker 2: Oh no, it's it's just all you just tell them

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Speaker 3: Going to going to the Super Bowl and playing against

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Speaker 2: Take you through the right Okay, take it to the

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504
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506
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509
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510
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511
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515
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516
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Speaker 2: I was a king of saving a dollar. Huh yeah,

518
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Speaker 2: yeah again. I love him. I just you know, he

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521
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Speaker 2: she's doing an unbelievable Yeah. So anyway, so we go, Yeah,

522
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Speaker 2: we get in there and we finally opened open the stadium.

523
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Speaker 2: I never forget the time, the moment when I took

524
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Speaker 2: the guys into the stadium for the first time. It's

525
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Speaker 2: like whoa, It's like, you know, this is what we've

526
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Speaker 2: been waiting for. We opened against Cincinnati. Jeff Blake is

527
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Speaker 2: the quarterback, and we were down by nine with four

528
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Speaker 2: minutes left to go, and fortunately Jeff Blake had cramped

529
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Speaker 2: up and had couldn't return to the game. I don't

530
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Speaker 2: know if we'd have won that game, but Steve puts

531
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Speaker 2: ten points on the board in four minutes and we

532
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Speaker 2: beat Cincinnati thirty six thirty five something like that to

533
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Speaker 2: start to win our inaugural game in the stadium. We

534
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Speaker 2: went on from there and we were undefeated at home

535
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Speaker 2: and then the place was was it packed the first

536
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537
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Speaker 2: we pitched an undefeated record at home. And at that time,

538
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Speaker 2: the Colts won the division and no, I'm sorry, correct,

539
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Jacksonville had won the division. OK, and we

540
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Speaker 2: were a wild card, so we had to go, We

541
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Speaker 2: had to start. We had hosted a wildcard game against Buffalo.

542
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Speaker 2: So that's the music citing. So that's everybody's first playoff game.

543
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Speaker 2: I might have had a handful of guys that had

544
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Speaker 2: playoff experience. That's being generous. So the first playoff game

545
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Speaker 2: is a hard. Playoff is a hard thing. So you

546
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Speaker 2: tell them, hey, look we'll find a way to win.

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Speaker 2: The next one's going to get better, the next one's

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Speaker 2: be hard, just because the emotions and all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: And sure enough it was hard. I mean, they kicked

551
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Speaker 2: the field goal with sixteen seconds left and we were down.

552
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Speaker 2: And we had been working this play every weekend, every Saturday.

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557
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Speaker 2: Darren Bates. Darren will tell you that on it. Every

558
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559
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561
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562
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Speaker 2: You know they got coach is never gonna call it. Yeah,

563
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Speaker 2: but they know I'm gonna call it. So so they're

564
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Speaker 2: always into that stuff and everything. So prior to the year,

565
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Speaker 2: you guys remember the Stanford Cow game years ago and

566
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567
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Speaker 2: what we had was we had our Stanford Cow team

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569
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Speaker 2: you got you're behind, You're gonna get the kickoff. How

570
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Speaker 2: I would take that wouldn't include you guys, unfortunately, no disrespect,

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Speaker 2: all the so we go. They would go.

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Speaker 1: Hands team at the Raiders and then I would come

575
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Speaker 2: I had left handed and right handed guys, and our

577
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578
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Speaker 2: ball alive and throw it around and later it and

579
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Speaker 2: there was no method to the madness. But that was

580
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Speaker 2: our team back football prior to so right at the

581
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,960
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582
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583
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584
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585
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586
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587
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588
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Speaker 2: go through it. So we put our we put our

589
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 2: we called a home run throwback. So we worked it

590
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 2: every Saturday and and every Saturday we had our team

591
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592
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593
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594
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595
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596
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Speaker 2: gonna do it? You got to get it back to Frank, okay,

597
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 2: or someone's got to get the ball to Frank. So

598
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 2: every every week, every weekend every Saturday we worked so

599
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600
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601
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602
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603
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Speaker 2: So now I'm looking for Derek Mason, Okay, because Derek

604
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Speaker 2: Mason is a deep guy. Okay, Derek is out. Okay,

605
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 2: Derek has a concussion. He's next week someplace. Okay. So

606
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 2: now number two I'm looking now this during TV time out,

607
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: I'm looking for He's out. Okay. So our number two

608
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: was was Anthony Dorset Junior, and a d was cramping.

609
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Speaker 2: You ever in your career you ever been around a

610
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Speaker 1: There's forty five degrees out there and you just won

612
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Speaker 1: the Yeah, make it look like a bunch of out here,

613
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Speaker 1: So no questions.

614
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 2: So she's cramping. So Kevin Dyson is I'm yelling Dice

615
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: get over here, and Dice is like, yeah, coach, now, Dice,

616
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: I'd love Kevin. And and Kevin when we got him,

617
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: it was the first round pick out of Utah, Utah

618
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Speaker 2: stay or whatever, and he's he actually liked the californ

619
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 2: on your kids, like, oh whatever, okay, Yeah, So I'm Kevin, Okay,

620
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 2: humun throwback, Yeah, coach, I said, we worked at every Saturday.

621
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 2: I didn't pay attention, I said, Kevin, all you need

622
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623
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 2: I didn't pay attention. She was number he was number three.

624
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: He didn't have to pay attention. I just said, so okay, quick.

625
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: I said, hey, look, whatever happens out there, we're going

626
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 2: to get the ball to Frank. Okay, and all you do,

627
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: I want you to stay outside the numbers here. These

628
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 2: numbers pay ten, twenty thirty, and we'll get the ball

629
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: to and stay ten yards behind Frank. I got your coach.

630
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: So the coach house, everybody else had to play down. Okay,

631
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: everybody knew. We all knew. Everybody knew what was going on.

632
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 2: The only thing that was different was of all the

633
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: kicks we worked on every Saturday during it throughout the season,

634
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: never worked on that particular kick. It was a just

635
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 2: kind of a just a bloop kick to Lorenzo Neil.

636
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,520
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637
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Speaker 2: the center, hit him hard to tackle, or hit him

638
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: to the deep. Guy whatever, but that that little blue

639
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: kick with something that was just for whatever reason, never

640
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: worked on. So the ball is kicked on. Yeah, so

641
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: Low catches the ball. Well, Low smart, he doesn't want Frank. Yeah,

642
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 2: Dyson's over there picking from standing back over here, and

643
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 2: you'll see here's Low. He catches the ball, all right,

644
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 2: he's going to get rid of it. Oh my gosh,

645
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 2: you hear Frank. You take it. Frank sets it up,

646
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: sells it and comes back. Look at that ten yards

647
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 2: behind the ball, right, just like we told him. Yeah,

648
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: how about right there, right there, I'm yelling get out

649
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: of bounds because field goal ties. And then I look ahead,

650
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: I go, oh my gosh, the jumping on the left.

651
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can back it up. But story,

652
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: hang on, hang on, hang talk about this part took

653
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: So this is this is controversial city. Right here. What

654
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: do you think would have what do you think would

655
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: have been called had there been replay? Well there is

656
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 2: replay there to review. Oh yeah no. The wing official

657
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 2: right behind Frank on their sideline is Byron bas and

658
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 2: Byron Boston points a lateral so he points to his right,

659
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: to our right, his left, and I saw that, so

660
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: I knew it was ruled the ladder on the field

661
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 2: is half the battle. Yeah, so you have to you know,

662
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 2: so it's ruled the lateral. Now Kevin cleans it. He

663
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: makes the makes the you know, the play here, and

664
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: then he goes so, you know, right about here, I'm

665
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: looking to my left going, oh my gosh, you know, hey,

666
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 2: we got a chance here. Let's you know, I'm young,

667
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: get out of bounds, Kevin, because field goal gives us

668
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: a chance. And then I said, oh my gosh, here

669
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 2: we go score. So right here on the left, right

670
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: on the end zone, jumping in the goal line right there,

671
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 2: that kid right there. Okay, now this is a good story,

672
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 2: this kid, right, I'm gonna I'm gonna now that we've

673
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: seen that, I'm gonna reference this. But anyway, so the

674
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: ruling on the field is a lateral. They're going to

675
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: go to replay. Okay, so and not now as a coach,

676
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: I'm on the sideline going, okay, do this thing's gonna

677
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: this thing's going to stand. Uh, they can't overturn it.

678
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: It's too close. I have to go for two, okay,

679
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: because this touchdown puts us ahead by five, right, Okay,

680
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: I have to go for two. And I'm thinking, when

681
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: this is announced, there's no way our offensive group would

682
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 2: be able to execute a play, right, Okay, right, I

683
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 2: mean you're looking at it and and so you're.

684
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: Sorry because of the emotions and and everything to see

685
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 3: the miracle that just happened, to have no chance to

686
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 3: win the game.

687
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: But sixteen seconds, everyone thinks, oh we're fucking done. Well,

688
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: good year. So why this is happening, Okay, this is cool.

689
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 2: Why this is happening. Bud Adams, our owner is an

690
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 2: elevator going down. Okay, because the game was over. My

691
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,959
Speaker 2: dad was in the bathroom. He was in he came

692
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: in from California, see the game. He's in the restroom. Okay,

693
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 2: there's probably sixty five, maybe sixty six thousand people here.

694
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: To this day, there's maybe one hundred thousand people said

695
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: they were there. Yeah, right, And people all over Nashville,

696
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: people all over Nashville, and the intersections are stopped listening

697
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 2: and getting out of their cars and going nuts, and

698
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: intersections all over and the whole place is going crazy.

699
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: So as as history would have it, I went for

700
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: the extra point. It was good. We went freaking crazy

701
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 2: on the sideline. We kicked the extra point, kicked the

702
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 2: ball off because in my mind, what are the odds

703
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: of this happening twice in the same game, you know

704
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: the way, Well, what people fail to bring up is

705
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 2: after we kicked the ball off to Buffalo, they pitched

706
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 2: the ball around, they pushed that sucker past midfield and

707
00:34:52,160 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: the game ended. Yeah that is out. So okay, we

708
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 2: won our first playoff game. Okay, We're going to Indianapolis

709
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 2: the next week. So you know, we had our home

710
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 2: in Franklin, and after after games, I had a group

711
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: of buddies that music music guys and things like that

712
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 2: would always come over. We would crack red wine and

713
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: and grill and stuff and what they called it celebration stations.

714
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 2: So I had a bunch of people over after the game. Yeah,

715
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 2: you had been there. Well remember Mike. You know you've

716
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: met Mike Silver. Yes, Mike Silver was in to cover

717
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: the game, and he was in my kitchen after the game.

718
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: So this little guy there that's jumping up and down, Okay,

719
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 2: that's my son. He was running polaroids on the sideline

720
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: during the season. Now, back then, you didn't have tablets

721
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. All you got was like a

722
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: polaroid shot of the formation and then another shot of

723
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: the play beginning. So he's running polaroids to offense defense

724
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: special teams. That was his job on the sideline, and

725
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 2: he's standing there in the kitchen going, hey there, I

726
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: am there, I am look at me there, I am

727
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 2: right there. I made TV, I made ESPN. I go too,

728
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,479
Speaker 2: what are you doing in the white and the white?

729
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're supposed to be if you hit the

730
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: official bumped you. This is over. Yeah, doesn't happen. No

731
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 2: goes something so happy about being on TV to be

732
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: mouth his mouth shut, tears and it was like its

733
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 2: just the whole kitchen was silent, and I went, no,

734
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. It would have been assessed on the kickoff. Anyway.

735
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 2: That's the story. So it's pretty cool. That's bad. Yes,

736
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: so we play today.

737
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: Is still like when you walk into our facility here

738
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 3: from the players, the players walking to the left.

739
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: It's still drawn up. Oh yeah, how it went down everything? Yeah,

740
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 2: so it's really good. So we called it home run throwback. Okay,

741
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 2: everyone in Buffalo, every Buffalo fan since nineteen ninety nine

742
00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 2: to the present, calls it home run throw forward, throw forward. Yeah, yeah,

743
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 2: for sure. But yeah, so it was with all this

744
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: stuff going on in the league now in the hundred

745
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 2: years and everything, in all the hundred plays, this was

746
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: the second the top. It was number two in playoff

747
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 2: history to the Immaculate Reception. Yeah. So anyway, yeah, it

748
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 2: was cool stuff. So this was and you can imagine

749
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: what the locker room was like. And I mean Tim McGraw,

750
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 2: everybody's in the logo going freaking nuts. And so now

751
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 2: we got to go to Indy. So we go to

752
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: Indy and we got to beat the Colts and then

753
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: there was a couple of cool stories up there. And

754
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 2: we beat the Colts and we came back from Indy

755
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: and got off the plane and went through that airport

756
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: and you guys have gotten off if you bust or whatever,

757
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 2: but we didn't. We we came through the terminal and

758
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 2: came down. It was thousands of people in the terminal.

759
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 2: That's so cool. And now we got to go to Jacksonville. Okay,

760
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: Jacksonville won our division. Jacksonville. And when I said Jacksonville,

761
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: you just got the funny. Okay, I get it. We

762
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 2: started it. Okay, So Jacksonville's fourteen and two. Okay, they

763
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 2: had a week off. All right. They just pounded the

764
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins sixty something to nothing or thereabouts in the

765
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 2: first round of playoffs, sixty two to seven. Okay, sixty

766
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 2: two to seven Marinos last game. Okay, guys, this memory

767
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 2: checks us pretty good. I like it. It was pretty impressive. Boys,

768
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 2: the boys are okay. So well, now we're going to

769
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 2: go to Jacksonville. All right, but here's the here's the

770
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: stuff behind the scenes. This was the last time that

771
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl was one week after the championship game.

772
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: There's not two weeks. Okay, so we're going down to Jacksonville.

773
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 2: We we and two days before we go to play

774
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: in the championship AFC Championship Game, we got to send

775
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: people to Atlanta, our advanced people to Atlanta because if

776
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: we win, we're going to be the next day. It's

777
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: not like you got a week and all this kind

778
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 2: of stuff. It's like, right, you win the game to

779
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 2: so and I credit the organization because it was the

780
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 2: last time and they had done that work and we're prepared.

781
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 2: We've got a team there. But so anyway, I find

782
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 2: out that Jacksonville's crew was in Atlanta, kind of like

783
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 2: you know what, Hey, you know, coach Coughlin wants it

784
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: like this, so we don't really care how you want it,

785
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: you know. And so the assumption was they're going to

786
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: win the game before we've even played the game. And

787
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: the reason being is they were fourteen and two. Their

788
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: only two losses came to us. We went down there

789
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: and beat them, and we beat them at home. Sounds

790
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 2: sounds very familiar. Yeah, it sounds about right. Yeah, So

791
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: who's gonna you know, who in their right mind thinks

792
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 2: that we're gonna They're going to lose three games this year,

793
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 2: all to us.

794
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 4: Okay, so especially come off sixty two seven.

795
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and here we are. We've been you know,

796
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: we had the emotional game at home. Now we go

797
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: on the road to Indiing. Now we've got to go

798
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: down there. We go down there and we beat them.

799
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 3: So fourteen, I mean, that's a nice winter, which is like,

800
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 3: have you played Jacksonville in December?

801
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always hard because you're going and you're playing

802
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 2: these cold weather games. You're not used to the heat.

803
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 3: When you go down of Jacksonville and it's like September

804
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 3: and Tennessee, it's that's a that's a tough place.

805
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: To play. Yeah, it's always there's so much, so many

806
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 2: good stories and underlying things between the rivalry. But so

807
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 2: we go down there and beat them. Now, now we're

808
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: going to super Bowl. This is Sunday, late afternoon, and

809
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: we got to fly back here. We get on buses

810
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 2: at the at the airport and we bring the buses

811
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 2: right and as we were coming around from the airport

812
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 2: to the stadium it was Adelphia at the time, Nissan Stadium,

813
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 2: we could see ourselves, our buses on the Jumbo Tron

814
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 2: pulling in and we got out. Both the whole team

815
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 2: got out of the buses and we walked onto the

816
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 2: field and there's thirty forty thousand fans. They're going nuts

817
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 2: because we're going to the super Bowl. So we did that,

818
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: and then we come back to Baptist Sports Park it

819
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: was called, and we have a meeting because I got

820
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the guys, are you know this is

821
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: a post game off the airplane meeting about what you

822
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: got to do between now and noon tomorrow because we're

823
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: going to the super Bowl tomorrow afternoon. You imagine how

824
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 2: fast it turnaround. So I left the coaching staff behind,

825
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 2: went down with the players. A team left the coaches

826
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 2: to game plan and their offices Monday and Tuesday. They

827
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: came back, came down Tuesday night and we started our

828
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: practice routine on Wednesday in Atlanta had just suffered an

829
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 2: ice storm, so we practiced. We had our Super Bowl

830
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: practices were at Georgia Tech outside on the aster turf

831
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 2: on a frozen slipping everywhere on a field.

832
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 3: So do you do you even think to yourself made

833
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 3: maybe not even practice with a guy slips.

834
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 2: We had to get our work done. But we had

835
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 2: played the Rams once before. We beat the Rams at home,

836
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 2: uh and during the season, and so there was familiarity.

837
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 2: But the issues that we had was we lost our

838
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: We lost our starting free safety in the in the

839
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 2: Jacksonville in the championship game, and then in the game

840
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: it's in the Super Bowl itself, we lost playing Bishop,

841
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 2: who you're familiar with, yes to injury, and I ended

842
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 2: up with you know, third safeties, and it was just

843
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 2: it was all those things that happened. But yeah, it

844
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: was a great run. It was a great run, and

845
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 2: it still came down to one yard. Yeah, yard and

846
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 2: a half, dude, that was nuts.

847
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 4: The greatest show on turf. Marshall Fulk the fall crowd.

848
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: Coming out of the backfield unbelievable. Yeah, and we you know,

849
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: obviously we were down at halftime and and we played

850
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: tried to play their game the first half and the

851
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 2: Super Bowl halftimes fore like three hours, and so we

852
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 2: kind of got ourselves together and got back to what

853
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: we what got us there, which was which was you

854
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: guys up front and Eddie we just had to do.

855
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 2: So we got that going again. And so this is like, guy,

856
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: your your guys, this is the final play right here

857
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: to dice Mike Jones. Oh my god, Mike Jones tackle.

858
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 4: I know, like, uh, maybe the best tackle in the

859
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 4: history of the game.

860
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: I think it was.

861
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 4: There's like some show where they did the top one

862
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 4: hundred ship.

863
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 2: So that was it. And you know, Eddie's Eddie's check

864
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 2: and he's he's releasing on the bottom, Frank And anyway,

865
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: I'm not going to did you. I'm not going to

866
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 2: throw anybody under the bus. I didn't watch this game

867
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 2: for like ten years. Really, Yeah. I finally watched it

868
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 2: because I was doing some I had to do something

869
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 2: on it. Who was wide open? Well, no, the you

870
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: can imagine you got eleven guys in the last play

871
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: of the Super Bowl and you know, yeah, all eleven

872
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: have to do the right thing right and uh and

873
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: you know, it just wasn't executed the way we wanted to.

874
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 2: But anyway we got out of the yard, I think

875
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 2: we had to be executed it properly. We may have

876
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: walked in so and then of course I was asking,

877
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: that's tacklet it's a great it's a great tackle. So

878
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 2: and then I was asked, okay, you know, would you

879
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 2: would you a J. Brown agent never gets tackled by

880
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 2: the first guy and he's a rookie. You score your

881
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 2: your down one extra point ties it? And I was asked,

882
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 2: what do you do? And you know, would you're gone

883
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 2: for two? And all that the way the way that

884
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 2: well you got to take the point, the way the

885
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 2: momentum had changed. I mean, Kevin Carter and their whole

886
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,479
Speaker 2: defense was dead tired. I mean they were they were done,

887
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 2: you know, because we had put that together. Two freaking

888
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 2: amazing drives. There's so many plays on this drive. I mean,

889
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: if you want to know anything about Steve McNair, you know,

890
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 2: I think about every day you watch this drive, you know,

891
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 2: I mean, it's really cool, people up going down, the

892
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 2: field around shedding people. Boy is just people's strong beast.

893
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 2: I mean you talk. You said something about Eddie. I

894
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: mean Steve and Eddie were like they were the dudes.

895
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 3: And they were kind of like a ying and yang, right,

896
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 3: Eddie was the misser, always suited and booted, very proper,

897
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 3: took care of it. We'll never be walking out beer gut,

898
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 3: hanging out having a couple of beers after the game. Yes,

899
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 3: like kind of like a Ben Roethlisberger type seeing it.

900
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: Steve was. We could go hours on Steve. But yeah,

901
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 2: you guys are awesome. So look at this stuff. That's all.

902
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 2: Stuff just goes to Dyson. Look at that I kept

903
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 2: a drive alive.

904
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: Are there any other plays in the game that you

905
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: think about besides the execution of that last play that

906
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,479
Speaker 1: you're like, Man, if I would have if we would

907
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: have called this like sometimes like you.

908
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 4: Know, like when you mess up, Like if I would

909
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 4: have just fucking moved this way that.

910
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 2: I know I should have moved, I don't would have

911
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: made That's a great question. I just think in general terms,

912
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 2: I think we've got a little derailed in the first

913
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 2: half because we got we're playing the greatest show on turf,

914
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 2: and I think offensively, we wanted to show that we

915
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 2: could throw it around a little bit too, and we

916
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: got away from what got us there, and I was

917
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 2: pissed at halftime, and I just said, Hey, this is

918
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 2: how we're going to get back.

919
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 3: You you don't seem like this kind of guy, but

920
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 3: there is definitely a battle of egos when you go

921
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 3: to play another team that's the greatest show on turf,

922
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 3: the greatest offense to ever be, the type of thing.

923
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 3: And and like you said, you kind of like.

924
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: It's football and your strengths versus their strengths and how

925
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: do you get them to do something that they're not

926
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: good at and vice versa and all that. But you know,

927
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: I just felt like if we have any chance to

928
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: win this game, particularly because of the injuries that we'd

929
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 2: had in the game and in the championship game, we're

930
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 2: down to third and four safeties, you know, and so

931
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: you know, I just felt like we need to get

932
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: this Eddie. Eddie will take this game over, and we

933
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: need to handle he was so so we did and

934
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 2: we got back, and you know, it made it a

935
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 2: great game. But yeah, so so game's over. I don't

936
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: I can't find Dick coach for mill because all the stuff.

937
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 2: And so I did have a kind of a little

938
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 2: moment with Steve there. It's that I've never and I won't,

939
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: so don't ask, but it was he and Steve and

940
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 2: I in a moment there on the field. And then

941
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 2: I went in and you know, it's like, you know,

942
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I watch Super bowls now and they're sympathetic

943
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 2: to you know, the one team wins, the one team loses,

944
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: and you know, it's it's not an easy thing. So

945
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 2: in the locker room and the doors shut and we're

946
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 2: kind of putting things in perspective as best you can

947
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 2: an emotional thing, and so it is just it's just

948
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 2: that emotion is something that you don't feel. You feel

949
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 2: once in a lifetime maybe, but so anyway, we're going

950
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: through it, and you know, guys start clearing out and everything,

951
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 2: and so now now it's time for me to do

952
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 2: my press conference. So I walk out and I get

953
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 2: up on the podium and I see my family and

954
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 2: there and my kids are I can see them there

955
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 2: with Julie, and my kids are crying because their dad

956
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: just lost the Super Bowl. So I'm answering questions and

957
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: things like that, and then immediate meetly to my left,

958
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 2: this guy says, excuse me, coach, and I'm kind of

959
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 2: looking at him, and he goes, you got to take

960
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 2: this call. And this is a bizarre request when you're

961
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 2: doing a postgame press conference. And I said, what do

962
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 2: you mean call? And I looked and our media relations

963
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 2: director goes like that. I go, well, who is it?

964
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 2: He goes, this is the vice president and I go, well,

965
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,959
Speaker 2: what vice president? And he goes, vice President Al Gore.

966
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: He wants to talk to the United States Yeah, and

967
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 2: I go yeah, I go okay, I go, hello, Hi,

968
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 2: this is Jeff You go, coach man, what a great

969
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 2: game because he was Tennessee guy and just and he's

970
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 2: going nuts. I go, excuse me, sir, but we lost,

971
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 2: you know, I know, but he was the best game.

972
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: I'm so proud of you guys. What a great ding.

973
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 2: I going, oh, thank you, thank you very much. So

974
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: I thought that was really cool. I finished the press conference,

975
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 2: go in the locker room. Everybody's kind of working their

976
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 2: way out. I got both my boys in there, and

977
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 2: I'm showering, changing and and getting ready to get my bag.

978
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: And these guys come in with these freaking ear pieces

979
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: and stuff, and he excuse me, coach, you need to

980
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 2: come with us, and you need to take a phone

981
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 2: call out here. I go, look, I've already done the

982
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 2: phone call thing and he goes, he goes, no, you

983
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 2: need to come take this call. And go, well, who's

984
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 2: calling now and he goes it's the president and then

985
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: president the president. So it's like all of us. I said, Okay,

986
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 2: come on, guys, let's go, and they go they can't,

987
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 2: they can't. I go, no, they're coming. My boys are

988
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 2: coming with me. So anyway, it was it was President Clinton,

989
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 2: and the same thing was what a great game. I

990
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 2: watched him in the Oval office and da da da da,

991
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: and you guys should be so proud, and we'll thank you,

992
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 2: miss President. If you're ever in Washington, come on by man.

993
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 2: You know, I love to have you there and show

994
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 2: you around and all this kind of stuff and that,

995
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 2: No you didn't I didn't know. The rams went well, yeah,

996
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 2: but no, hey, he's just there, you know what. The

997
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 2: same day, no one told me. Yeah. But but so

998
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 2: with all these things, easy, don't piss off. He's going

999
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 2: to cover anyway.

1000
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1001
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 2: So the next day we have our party and we

1002
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 2: we you know, we blow out there and come on back,

1003
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 2: and it was it took a week to just just

1004
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: because it was such a blur. It was so fast. Again,

1005
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 2: it was one week, you know, we just had no time,

1006
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 2: and then two weeks. I don't know, you know, Tell,

1007
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if the outcome would have been different,

1008
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I know the experience would have

1009
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 2: been different because it was such a rush and the

1010
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 2: weather was so bad in Atlanta, and you know, all

1011
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 2: these things were going on. Ray was Ray was Ray

1012
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 2: Lewis had his deal, you know, and so there's a

1013
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 2: lot of distractions going on. And so we get back,

1014
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 2: come back Monday, Tuesday, we have this prey, okay, and

1015
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 2: it's a prey and it is every all the players,

1016
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 2: and we're buzz around Nashville and Broadway and everything and

1017
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 2: fans just you can imagine. It was like the draft

1018
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 2: or it's like a freaking Pred's playoff game. But they

1019
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 2: were just all over the place. So we get to

1020
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 2: that and it's all over. We get back to the

1021
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: facility and I'm sitting in the facility in my office

1022
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 2: and Eddie walks in then sits down and what are

1023
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 2: you doing? Man, I thought, you're he's on your way

1024
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 2: to Why not going? I can't go, No, Eddie, you're

1025
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 2: not going to the Pro Bowl. And he goes, He goes, no, man,

1026
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 2: I'm just not into it. I don't want to go.

1027
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 2: I can't go. I go, Eddie, way wait, wait, wait,

1028
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: wit you're voted to the Pro Bowl by your peers,

1029
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 2: by the fans. By this, you need to go to

1030
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl. You need to have a freaking peanut

1031
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 2: Colada and practice, you know, and you've never done that

1032
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 2: in your life. That's why you can do that. You

1033
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 2: can have a cocktail and go practice and stuff. And

1034
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: and he goes, no, man, I go Eddie, what's up?

1035
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 2: He goes, I want to start on next year right now?

1036
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 2: He want to go to Pro Bowl. But that gives

1037
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 2: you the mindset of that team, and it was cool.

1038
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Speaker 2: Now back to this Banger Fisher episode. So then we

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Speaker 2: come back the next year and have a better team,

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Speaker 2: and then it was not a good ending this season.

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Speaker 2: We lost the Ravens and they didn't get a first

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Speaker 2: down in the second in the second half, and you know,

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Speaker 2: we blocked two punts in the game. We had to

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Speaker 2: we come back the two thousand Titans I think were

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00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 2: better than the ninety nine Titans, and we had the

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Speaker 2: week off, we had home field too out and we

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Speaker 2: blocked two punts in the game. Both of them went

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Speaker 2: as a special team of both of them went sideways

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Speaker 2: out of bounds. Fuck.

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Speaker 4: And usually when you block one, like the scoring or

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Speaker 4: what blull.

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00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 2: Boom out of bounce. Chris Colmen blocked them both and

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Speaker 2: then I don't think they got a first down second

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00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 2: half and Eddie Eddie took his eye off a check down,

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00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 2: the ball bounced off her shoulder right was caught it

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00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 2: running for a touchdow Oh yeah, but anyway it was

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Speaker 2: it was a really really thanks to letting me share.

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Speaker 2: It was really cool run. Oh yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 1: We had a kittle on the other day and Taylor

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00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: asked the question, would you have rather well, was it

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Speaker 1: not make the playoffs?

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Speaker 2: You would you rather go to the super Bowl and

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00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 2: lose or not make the playoffs at all?

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00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: Emotionally not like Okay, it's gonna send you for next year,

1103
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: and he said he said, did he kind of dance

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00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 1: around the question.

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00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 2: Soon to ask you question. It's I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Going to the Super Bowl is an experience of its own.

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00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 3: Like you said, very few people get to like if

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00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 3: you even if you're a guy that's bounced around for

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Speaker 3: eight years, but you've been to the super Bowl, like

1110
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 3: that guy's he's got something you can learn from and

1111
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Speaker 3: so that's definitely an experience. I think it's different for

1112
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 3: guys like would you rather like go to the divisional

1113
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 3: round or not go to the playoffs at all. Like

1114
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 3: for me, it's like, well, I mean it's I mean,

1115
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 3: it's good because it's good for the community, it's good

1116
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 3: for the city and stuff like that, and you want

1117
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:46,919
Speaker 3: to make the playoffs. But a lot of guys would

1118
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 3: sit there and say, you know, you're taking two bigs

1119
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 3: vacation away from me, you know what I'm saying. And

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Speaker 3: the pay is not the same.

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Speaker 4: Emotionally what I mean, what would you go super Bowl

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00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 4: and lose or not make the playoffs?

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Speaker 2: Oh? No, you go to super Bowl and lose? Yeah, yeah,

1124
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 2: you have to go. Yeah, I mean you're when all

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Speaker 2: the dust settles, man, and you're you've retired in ten

1126
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 2: years or whatever after that's what you think about. You

1127
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 2: got to go playing about that run. There's something that

1128
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 2: can never take away from you as you got to

1129
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 2: play in the super Bowl, you know, and then to

1130
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 2: win a super Bowl and then to one. You know,

1131
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 2: it's like I'm real close with Chris Long and you know, Chris,

1132
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 2: you know, never would have thought you'd go to New

1133
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 2: England and do it and then come back and next

1134
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 2: year and got Philly and England doing it, yeah, and

1135
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 2: it's just she was just yeah. But side notes, Chris,

1136
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 2: most funny ever had was playing with us at the Rams.

1137
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: But speaking of having most fun we've had somebody sitting

1138
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: out in the parking lot the whole time while he's

1139
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: been on here.

1140
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 2: Who's that dB? Oh yeah, it's them to come crashing

1141
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 2: pie and come say what's up to coach? Yeah, tell

1142
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 2: them to come by.

1143
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 4: You want to go back out bring him the back

1144
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 4: just so we don't so, I mean.

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00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 2: I feel like we can have you one stories.

1146
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: Speaking of the ego thing, you're like, oh, you don't

1147
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: see like this type of guy. I have a I

1148
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 1: have an ego story about Coach Fisher when he was

1149
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: on the Rams.

1150
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,760
Speaker 2: When he picked two of her all at the Great Robinson.

1151
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: No, no, no, we'll talk about that too, but uh,

1152
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: it was the trade with RG and then they came.

1153
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: This was my second year and I had just like

1154
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: I was on. I was basically like you know, special

1155
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: teams backup all year and then I think Perry Rayler

1156
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: or one of our linebackers got hurt. And at the

1157
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: end of the year I got to start like three

1158
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: games in the row, and one of my starts was

1159
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: against the Rams and shout out the boy I had

1160
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: like fifteen tackles. I was like so stoked with my

1161
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Speaker 1: dad afterwards.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, he comes out and we the Redskins had

1163
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 4: traded away, like how many picks for r G.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about? How many picks? Was it? Well,

1165
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 2: they gave up, we give up the number they give

1166
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 2: up the number of picks two ones, two and one. Okay,

1167
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 2: all these picks right for Well, that's how we built

1168
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 2: the Rams. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he says.

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00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: He trolls this by sending all the picks they traded

1170
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Speaker 1: because RG wasn't working out that year for the Redskins.

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00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: That was kind of when he was on his outs

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00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: with the Redskins. And he sends all the picks out

1173
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: to the middle of the field as captains, all the

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00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: picks that they drafted that they sent him out as captains.

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Speaker 2: See, you guys didn't know that until it was over,

1176
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 2: did you? Because that's what I was I was told

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00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 2: because because Daniel Snyder and Bruce Allen, none of those

1178
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 2: guys knew until after ye And it was cool, And

1179
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 2: I'm on, I take credit for things, and then I

1180
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 2: give credit where credit is due and Chris Long came

1181
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 2: to me, you know, after or before warm ups or

1182
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 2: after warm ups, and said, hey, dude, he goes, do

1183
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:41,919
Speaker 2: you ever think about sending all the all the guys

1184
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 2: we got from n r G three trade out his

1185
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 2: captains to go. That's the hell of an idea that

1186
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 2: Chris Chris shout. So I go, I'm going through the

1187
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 2: locker room. You know he wasn't, So no, I got

1188
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 2: to go. I gotta make it here, like I got

1189
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 2: to make a phone call and uh and uh, and

1190
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 2: I find out who's on the roster and who was

1191
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 2: still there and active. So I sent the guys out

1192
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 2: for the coun That's awesome. But I had to tell

1193
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 2: a Rider after the game. I think that do we

1194
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 2: shut you guys out that game? Maybe because we had

1195
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 2: I was still to be out there playing. Yeah, let's go.

1196
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 2: We had back to back shutouts when I was in

1197
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 2: Saint Louis search that up and we shut the RAG.

1198
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 2: I think we shut the Raiders out at home in

1199
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 2: Saint Louis and then we.

1200
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 4: Went there and it might have been like twenty three nothing, But.

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00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 2: Anyway, I had back to back shutouts, which is pretty

1202
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 2: hard to do. Yeah, but yeah, so yeah, so I did. Yeah,

1203
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 2: we did that. We sent all the guys out there

1204
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 2: and it was fun. I mean, I think Daniel loved it.

1205
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 2: He he you know, he loved he loves that stuff. Yeah,

1206
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 2: so it was just kind of the stuff that we

1207
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 2: used to do back then. It was kind of cool.

1208
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 3: So you brief, you really imagine something telling that story.

1209
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 3: And I'll Rich Rodriguez was my first coach at the

1210
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 3: University of Michigan when I first got there, and then

1211
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 3: he gets he got fired, and then the coach that

1212
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 3: came in.

1213
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 2: Was Bretty Hope and the first year Brady Hook was there.

1214
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 3: We went to the Sugar Bowl and they asked which

1215
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 3: Rodorriguez about it, and he's like, he said, it's like

1216
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 3: making all the ingredients for a cake and then he

1217
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 3: let some other guy put it in the oven. Right,

1218
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 3: And so you said something about putting the Rams together?

1219
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 3: Does that when you watch the Rams go on the run?

1220
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 3: They did not this past year, but the two years

1221
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 3: before that. Is there a sense of pride or disappointment

1222
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 3: that you weren't there or anything like that.

1223
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 2: Well, it's a great question. I thank you. You welcome question. Yeah,

1224
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 2: answer it, so thank you. You know, it was. Obviously

1225
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 2: it's disappointing, but I've been in the league long enough,

1226
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 2: and I was so fortunate to have been a head

1227
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 2: coach for twenty years, and at some point you're going

1228
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 2: to get fired, and so you know, you roll the

1229
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 2: dice the longer you're in it. And so I worked

1230
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 2: really really hard to put that roster together and knew

1231
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 2: that we were very close and had just drafted Jai

1232
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 2: and Ya and I played Jared the last four games

1233
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 2: not even thinking, not even concerned about I didn't care

1234
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 2: about myself. All I wanted to do was make a

1235
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 2: commitment to the owner, build a team as best I could,

1236
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 2: and put the right group of players together and and

1237
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 2: sustain it. Yeah, okay, you can put players together now

1238
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 2: for a year, but but the challenge is sustaining things.

1239
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 2: And so I felt like we were building with the

1240
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 2: trades and this, and then that we traded obviously to

1241
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 2: you guys with John uh and got Jared, trade up,

1242
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 2: got Jared, and we were moving the right and then

1243
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 2: it didn't didn't happen. So but I knew what was there,

1244
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 2: and I knew that they were gonna they were gonna

1245
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 2: be really good. So you asked your question. Yeah, I

1246
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 2: was happy for them. I'm happy for the players and

1247
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 2: happy for most of the staff. I mean, in this world,

1248
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 2: that's you learn about forgetting, for forgiveness and you know,

1249
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 2: and stuff, but rejection sometimes trump's forgiveness and you know,

1250
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 2: so you're you're gonna be or whatever it is. But

1251
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 2: I was really happy for the guys and it didn't

1252
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 2: surprise me that they got there. The concern I have

1253
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 2: and the concern that they should have, is sustaining. I

1254
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 2: don't think and I'll say this to the to whoever's

1255
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 2: making decisions there, I don't think they made the right

1256
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 2: decisions over the last couple of years to sustain. Yeah,

1257
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 2: and that's I think you'll see that over the next

1258
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 2: couple of years.

1259
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Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of things you can do to

1260
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 3: sustain I think just my agency m c A and

1261
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 3: they're the best agency.

1262
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 2: Shout to sea. They're they're unbelievable. And they have guys

1263
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 2: that used to do cap.

1264
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 3: Stuff for other teams with gams for the teams that

1265
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 3: now work with them and kind of work on negotiations

1266
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 3: on the other side. And they say that one thing

1267
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 3: that the Philadelphia Eagles do really well is they set

1268
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 3: up guys contracts to where like if you if you're

1269
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 3: you know, your CAP's not that great, you can convert

1270
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 3: into signing boats and then that saves you x amount

1271
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 3: of cap dollars and they got mixed minimum that year.

1272
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 3: And so there's a lot of ways around, like the

1273
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 3: salary cap to make sure you can sustain those.

1274
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 2: Guys on the team. And there's two. There's you have two.

1275
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 2: You have two ways of building. Your team wants to draft,

1276
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 2: the others through free agency, and you have to use both.

1277
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 2: And the draft is you guys, hear this. So everybody

1278
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 2: makes draft mistakes. I mean, yes, we made a mistake. Yeah,

1279
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 2: we'll talk about that, Okay, you know, but that those

1280
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 2: things happen, but you have to have a plan and

1281
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 2: you have to be able to look ahead two or

1282
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 2: three years. And now things are going to get all

1283
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 2: kicked out of whack because of a current an injury

1284
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 2: or some kind of problem or something like that or

1285
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 2: somebody did. But if you have a plan, buy and large,

1286
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 2: you can you can plug things in and make adjustments

1287
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 2: in here and stay competitive, you know, and you know

1288
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 2: I see that with John Robinson and you guys, I

1289
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 2: mean I was so jacked for you guys. I mean

1290
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 2: I came to this. I came to the Indianapolis game

1291
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 2: early September. I don't think your point. And that was

1292
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 2: the loss. And that was when they we retired Steve

1293
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 2: and Eddie's jersey, and I just there was something missing,

1294
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 2: you know, But we'll realized what it was, what what

1295
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 2: was missing and what they went to and and I'm

1296
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 2: not talking about Marcus per Se, but I'm talking about

1297
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 2: just you guys rocking forward a little bit and running

1298
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 2: the football. It's a big two. And which is a

1299
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 2: question I have is what's he like in the huntle

1300
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 2: What what is he? What's what's he like in the hunt?

1301
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 2: Derek is studd He's a complete study. What Derek is

1302
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 2: very happy, go lucky during the week, and he's especially

1303
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 2: if it has a good game. You can tell he's

1304
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 2: got a smile on his face. But when it comes

1305
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 2: to games like we'll have a couple I bring up

1306
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 2: there's a play action play that we have. Then I

1307
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 2: have to I'm going out to the end, but and

1308
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 2: we're all kind of running to the left and then

1309
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 2: we set up so the quarterback can set up. But

1310
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 2: I have to help the guard at first and Dixon

1311
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 2: was having outside So if ever in a time out

1312
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 2: in that play is called, I'm always like, hey, Derek,

1313
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 2: you make sure and he's like, listen, I fucking got it.

1314
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 2: Like he is.

1315
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 3: He is so locked in, will not smile, has an

1316
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 3: attitude about him. He'll run the ball for four The

1317
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 3: best way to describe Derek is the last game of

1318
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 3: the season, there really wasn't a thought of, like, let's

1319
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 3: get the rushing title because there were so many yards

1320
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 3: to get. But he goes in the first half of

1321
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 3: the game he had sixty three yards rushing, which is

1322
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 3: not bad at all. I mean, you double that, yere

1323
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty six yards. That's a good game,

1324
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. I'm on a roll today and

1325
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 3: we get a halftime, he's fucking pissed. He's like, what

1326
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 3: can we do better? Like, if you guys just get

1327
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 3: this block, I swear to God, I'll get through. And

1328
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,439
Speaker 3: he's got that from what I've heard about Eddie George

1329
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 3: when he was there, He's got that mentality that he

1330
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 3: knows he can change a game whenever he has the

1331
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 3: ball in his hands, and he absolutely can't. He's got

1332
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 3: the breakaway speed, not the first guy I can ever

1333
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 3: tackle him. I'm very impressed with him and how he

1334
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 3: holds himself in a game because he's never too high

1335
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 3: and too low. It's always stay right on course and basically,

1336
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 3: fuck you, you're not going to tackle me right.

1337
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 2: And that's exactly how he's impressive. That's how how Eddie was.

1338
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I remember, you know, I got so many memories.

1339
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 2: But you know, we're inside it two minutes and it's

1340
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 2: third and seven and we get the first down. We

1341
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 2: kneeled games over, you know, and Jacksonville used our last

1342
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 2: time out, and here we go. When we're standing a sideline,

1343
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 2: I go, hey, look, I'm Eddie and Steve are standing

1344
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 2: looking at I. I got options. You can put it

1345
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 2: on your hip and get what you can, you know,

1346
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 2: and get down think thing rolling and we'll pull it away,

1347
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 2: or you know, I can give it to you. He

1348
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 2: goes give it to me, and he looks across. He

1349
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 2: goes third and seven. He goes, I got you ten.

1350
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 2: You're good with that? He goes, yep, you got ten.

1351
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 2: But and so the one thing I mean, and if

1352
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 2: I got any messages that you could take back to

1353
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 2: Derek is man spend as much time as you can

1354
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 2: with that, with that big boy two seven, because Eddie

1355
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 2: understood what it took in the off season, he got it.

1356
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 2: He was way ahead of his time time, you know.

1357
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 2: And it was I mean, he and the great ones

1358
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 2: do that. The Jerry Rice's and all the ones that

1359
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 2: I've been fortunate to be around, understand that as you

1360
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 2: get older, you have to work harder just to maintain,

1361
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 2: not to get not to to get better, just to maintain. Now,

1362
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 2: if you want to get better, then you got to

1363
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 2: work even harder. And that's how Eddie was. I mean,

1364
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 2: Eddie had that relentless thing. I'll take you back. We

1365
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 2: opened our inaugural season in Tennessee was in Memphis against

1366
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 2: the Oakland Raiders in Memphis, Tennessee early September, and we

1367
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 2: won an overtime game and Eddie had over two hundred

1368
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 2: yards rushing and he went and got ivy at end

1369
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 2: of regulation, came back out and we pounded them in

1370
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 2: a ninety five one hundred degree day in Memphis, and

1371
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 2: the Raiders wilted because they had just come off a

1372
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 2: training camp in Napa. Yeah, okay, And we knew that,

1373
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 2: we knew it was in our favor. Okay, so Eddie's

1374
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 2: got two hundred and eleven or two hundred and twenty,

1375
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 2: whatever the whatever it is in Memphis. On Sunday we

1376
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 2: come back to Bellevue. I'm looking out of my trailer

1377
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 2: window and Eddie's running freaking hundreds the day after. That's

1378
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 2: that definitely, that sounds They have a lot of similar

1379
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 2: and that's that's the difference. And that's what And you know,

1380
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 2: some people need to be told that, and some people

1381
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 2: figure it out and get it on their figure it

1382
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 2: on their own. But that's where that's where if Derek

1383
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 2: wants to be the guy that which he is now,

1384
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just you know, yeah, you know, I

1385
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,600
Speaker 2: was a dB in the league tackling that dude, that's like,

1386
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 2: that's like freaking bouncing your forehead off of frozen truck bumper.

1387
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 2: You know, not fun. And that's what you guys build

1388
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 2: around that ship. It's old school and and no one

1389
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 2: in the on any of you.

1390
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 3: I think I think Derek, I mean definitely, Derek was

1391
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 3: easily arguably the top running back this year, the most

1392
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:10,599
Speaker 3: yards I think with running backs always sustaining, how many

1393
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 3: years can you do that? Because people say that to

1394
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 3: me you only have so many carries in you. And

1395
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 3: one thing I noticed about Derek is he doesn't really

1396
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 3: get tired. He doesn't he genetics or whatever it is.

1397
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 3: He works his ass off, but he's one of those

1398
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 3: guys that he's not the best. He's pissed off about it.

1399
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 3: And so he's he's definitely a great teammate and he's

1400
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 3: he's awesome to be around. He sat in that same

1401
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 3: chair he was here. We had him on what four

1402
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 3: or five weeks ago, four or five weeks ago, and

1403
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 3: he was sitting there and he had a conversation with Eddie.

1404
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 3: When he first he got he was a starter, and

1405
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 3: then he ended up being benched for Dion and these

1406
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 3: his words, not mine, but did happen. And he said

1407
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 3: he told Eddie and he talked to him, and Eddie

1408
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 3: was straightforward with him and said, you're not running hard enough.

1409
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 3: You're you're not like it doesn't seem like you want it,

1410
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 3: or I'm sure trying to do too much, those types.

1411
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 2: Of you're trying to be a two hundred pound back.

1412
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, be what you already use your strengths and

1413
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 3: then you that you will go to the distance. And

1414
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 3: he's done that since then. But Eddie's so locked into

1415
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 3: this community and he's so locked over the Titans because

1416
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 3: I had a similar situation where he went on radio

1417
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 3: and he said, well, I don't you know something along

1418
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 3: the lines of, I don't think Taylor is viewed as

1419
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 3: a as a leader on the on the Titans locker room,

1420
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 3: and nationally, I don't think he's viewed as a leader.

1421
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 3: And I called him because you know, if someone's going

1422
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:30,759
Speaker 3: to say that, I want to know what's your reasoning,

1423
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 3: because I'm I'm not going to fight a guy over

1424
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 3: I want to know the situation. Yeah, And so I

1425
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 3: call him and I figured he'd get defensive and well

1426
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 3: I didn't say that or this, and he's like, yeah,

1427
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 3: I said that, I said, I said.

1428
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 2: He said that.

1429
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,919
Speaker 3: There's when he sees me doing certain things, it's not leadership.

1430
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 3: If I'm trying to do too much during a game,

1431
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 3: it's not leadership.

1432
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 2: And I have as long as.

1433
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 3: I'm affecting the guy to my right and to my left,

1434
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 3: my left guard and my tight end, that's all you

1435
01:10:58,520 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 3: need to do is leadership.

1436
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 2: And you're not doing that. You came back trying to

1437
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 2: do too much. And after I had that talk, with him.

1438
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 3: I did exactly what he said. And I'm not saying

1439
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:11,640
Speaker 3: I've helped the Titans immensely, but it helped me. It

1440
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 3: helped my game, It helped me with Roger, it helped

1441
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 3: me with the tight ends, doing triple blocks, trade blocks,

1442
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 3: those types of things. So it's he's done a great

1443
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 3: job for the Titans, just on the outside, being able

1444
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 3: to talk to a few guys.

1445
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 2: And I, you know, I appreciate it. Help him. He

1446
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:29,799
Speaker 2: got to sit there and through the prime of his career,

1447
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:33,600
Speaker 2: he got to run behind Bruce Matthews stud Yeah, and

1448
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 2: Bruce was really quiet, and Bruce wasn't the vocal guy. Bruce.

1449
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 2: Bruce was tremendous athlete. He started every position on the

1450
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 2: offensive line and made the Pro Bowl at every position.

1451
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 2: He's in the Hall of Fame, you know all that stuff. Yeah,

1452
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 2: and Bruce was just he was just quiet about his

1453
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 2: job and his competitive Bruce would Bruce would stay out

1454
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 2: after Projice or before project, get out there early and

1455
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:59,440
Speaker 2: play whatever freaking competitive game, whether it was spinning footballs

1456
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 2: or what it is. He was always competing at something.

1457
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 2: But those are the guys that that Eddie kind of

1458
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 2: got was was raised now Eddie. You know, obviously the

1459
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 2: House State experience and and all that and everything associated

1460
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 2: with the difficulties and what you know, the thing, the

1461
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 2: hard times that we went through made Eddie Georgia man,

1462
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 2: you know, and sooner he was he always was. But

1463
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Yeah, Eddie just got it.

1464
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 2: You have to grow up. And he you know, Eddie

1465
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 2: would you know, And Eddie was even even early on, Eddie,

1466
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 2: Eddie get mad and he wanted to talk to the

1467
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 2: team and you know because somebody was late, and you know,

1468
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 2: he just bitching the meeting about his teammates. And then

1469
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 2: then the very next team meeting, Eddie was late.

1470
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 1: You know.

1471
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 2: I mean, so it sounds a little bit like myself. Yeah,

1472
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 2: he figures it out over time. But but man, I

1473
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:55,719
Speaker 2: mean lead by example is what he was about.

1474
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:59,679
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, it was cool, speaking of mainly ship built

1475
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 1: bar listen. Protein reduces appetite and hunger levels while increasing

1476
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 1: muscle mass and strength. Studies show that protein is by

1477
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 1: far the most filling of the three macro nutrients. If

1478
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 1: you don't know what the macro nutrients are, there's three

1479
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:15,879
Speaker 1: of them. Like I just said, fat, carbs, and protein.

1480
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 1: Listen here's my personal experience where quarantines right now, these

1481
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 1: box of built bars in they go phenomenal for snacking.

1482
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 1: I eat my built bar, I eat my built bars,

1483
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 1: built bars at home now to get me through the day.

1484
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:30,640
Speaker 1: But if you're on the go, when we're back on

1485
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 1: the go and now this quarantine shit, this will be

1486
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Speaker 2: And you'll be hooked. Can you talk? What were you

1518
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 2: gonna say? No? I just said he was and then

1519
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 2: and then and we we ran the football here, you know,

1520
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 2: and then that's people go, you know, really, I go, yeah, okay,

1521
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 2: we had I had two one hundred yard backs at

1522
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 2: Kansas City in the same game. Okay, at Lyndell White

1523
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 2: and Chris Johnson had one hundred yards. Each of them

1524
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 2: had over one hundred yards. And we came back the

1525
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 2: next week here and played Cleveland, and they both again

1526
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,799
Speaker 2: had one hundred yards, except I screwed it up because

1527
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:23,599
Speaker 2: I got pissed at the head coach because he called

1528
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 2: the game was out of reach over and he called

1529
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 2: a time out. Uh. And then he called another time

1530
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 2: out and they granted him back to back town outs,

1531
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 2: and I was pissed at the officials. I was pissed

1532
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 2: at him because the game was over. I said, screwed.

1533
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 2: I sent goal line in there and Logot knocked for

1534
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 2: a yard or Lindell got knocked for a yard loss

1535
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 2: and ended up with ninety nine yards, or I would

1536
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 2: have had we would have had back to back games

1537
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 2: where we had two one hundred yard rushers had it

1538
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 2: not been for the decision I made to go to

1539
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 2: just pound it in there. Yeah, but I mean that's

1540
01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 2: we ran the football. I mean, that's what we were

1541
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:01,600
Speaker 2: we were about, and Eddie was really the one that

1542
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 2: set that whole set that ball rolling for us.

1543
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 3: There's definitely a place for that in the league still,

1544
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 3: as much as people throw the ball around. If you

1545
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 3: have a dominant run game, it sets up all that passing.

1546
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean shit, look at you guys, look at

1547
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 1: the Ravens. Yeah, the forty nine ers who only threw

1548
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:19,759
Speaker 1: the ball like eight times and eleven and champions playoff

1549
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 1: run until the Super Bowl. But yeah, that's insane. I

1550
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:24,600
Speaker 1: remember I would be in the front yard. Was I

1551
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:26,560
Speaker 1: was a running back myself, back in youth football, and

1552
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 1: I was I would always like pretend to be Eddie George.

1553
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 1: Would you really Yeah, because I was like taller. I was,

1554
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 1: like I tell you all the time, I like peaked

1555
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 1: in high school. My prime was like youth ball, like

1556
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 1: just dominated, just dominated offensively.

1557
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 2: Stun Yeah, but I would always pretend to be Eddie George.

1558
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:42,640
Speaker 2: We got how much time I have? But I do,

1559
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 2: I do want to catch on a couple of things.

1560
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 1: Hang on, can you what was what was like a

1561
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 1: muddier transition the Houston to Tennessee or Saint Louis, LA.

1562
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 1: Because I grew up in Missouri, so me, I heard

1563
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 1: a lot more like I would always be around more

1564
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 1: with everybody being pissed off that when you guys went

1565
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 1: to LA, everybody was.

1566
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just anytime you pick up and move,

1567
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 2: the people that are affected the most of the fan base, right,

1568
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 2: and that's just not fair to fans. So you know,

1569
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 2: you gotta you know, you got to handle it as

1570
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 2: best you can. And you know, as a head coach,

1571
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 2: I'm not making those decisions. I'm doing what I'm told

1572
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 2: and I got to make the most out of a move.

1573
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 2: Now they're hard, it's it's hard, you know. I give

1574
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 2: an example when San Diego moved to LA and had

1575
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 2: a two hour drive. They started off on four and

1576
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 2: and Philip was driving, commuting in the car. You know,

1577
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,679
Speaker 2: you move. We moved three times in on off season.

1578
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:38,600
Speaker 2: You know, we had no play in LA. When we

1579
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 2: left Saint Louis, I went to LA. We moved into

1580
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 2: a Marriotte Residence inn in Auxnard and that's where we

1581
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 2: had our off season program. We lived in a hotel.

1582
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 2: And then when off season program was over, when you're

1583
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 2: done with your last o t A and you have

1584
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:54,600
Speaker 2: that summer break, you know, they had no place to

1585
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 2: train or live. And then they they showed up to

1586
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 2: training camp, you know, to hour south and you see

1587
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 2: Irvine and then then you go and then you were

1588
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 2: hoping that your temporary facility trailers again is done so

1589
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 2: you can have a place to practice, so you know,

1590
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 2: all those things are unsettling now, especially La was different

1591
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 2: than here. I can't say which one was harder. You know,

1592
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 2: this was different. I mean I had a player come

1593
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,799
Speaker 2: up to me and go, so we're checking these report

1594
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 2: to TSU for training camp. And back then they gave

1595
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 2: him eight hundred number and said, hey, call the eight

1596
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 2: hundred number. The mover will move your stuff. Make sure

1597
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 2: you're there in time for training camp wars training camp.

1598
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 2: Well it's a TSU warsor facility, I don't know yet.

1599
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 2: So it he comes up, he goes, yeah, my my

1600
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 2: my suv got there, but I can't find my Mercedes.

1601
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,760
Speaker 2: And my suv got there with you know, nine or

1602
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 2: ten or one thousand miles more on it. They drove

1603
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 2: it and they told me they're shipping. They can't they

1604
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 2: don't know where my car is. So you got those

1605
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 2: little things, you know, they all add up. But you know,

1606
01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 2: the La thing was the La thing was an easy, uh,

1607
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 2: just particularly because of all the movie and then the

1608
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 2: commuting and then you know you're you're on the road.

1609
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 2: And in that particular year I was there. We we

1610
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:13,600
Speaker 2: played in Detroit, in New England, in New York, in

1611
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 2: London at New Orleans. So so and we went we

1612
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 2: went from yeah, we went from we we we left

1613
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 2: l A, went to Detroit, went upstairs, lost a close game,

1614
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 2: went upstairs, had a meal, went downstairs, went to the airport,

1615
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 2: and flew to London. You know, so those things are

1616
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 2: you know, those things aren't easy. But that London trip

1617
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 2: in general is very hard. Oh yeah, yeah it is.

1618
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:41,640
Speaker 1: Raiders played at in Mexico at London. We played in

1619
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 1: New York like they were they had flown everywhere.

1620
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're going to You got no choice. Same

1621
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 2: with Seattle, and and so you have to you have

1622
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 2: to adjust. And obviously there's you know, we I feel

1623
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 2: like we did a really good job of justin I mean,

1624
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 2: the bottom line is this, I mean, and I think

1625
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 2: Mike very Bull is all about that. And he puts

1626
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:07,599
Speaker 2: himself in your shoes, and every decision that he makes

1627
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 2: from six o'clock in the morning till whatever time in

1628
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 2: the evening you leave, he's all about what you do

1629
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 2: and how can he help that that whole process and

1630
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 2: whether it's recovery, whether it's this or that. And so

1631
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 2: you know, we did sleep studies, and we did all

1632
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 2: kinds of different things and just innovative things. I mean,

1633
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 2: I even my last two years there, I believe or not.

1634
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 2: You know, Monday was a recovery day. Our player's day

1635
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:38,680
Speaker 2: off was Thursday, really really yeah, and oh yeah, but

1636
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 2: Monday's all recovery, okay, because if you're covering kicks and

1637
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 2: you're playing, you're going to play thirty plays in the game,

1638
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 2: and you're started, and you guys hand the ball off

1639
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 2: thirty five times, you played seventy plays, okay, and the

1640
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 2: practice squad guy over here didn't play and he had practice.

1641
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:57,640
Speaker 2: It's Friday, Okay. If I throw the three of you

1642
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 2: guys in on Monday into the weight room and you

1643
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 2: guys got the same stuff to do, that's wrong. Your

1644
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 2: needs are different than his needs, and your needs are

1645
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 2: You may just need a massage period and fluids, you know,

1646
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 2: and the normatech and whatever. That might be your Monday,

1647
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 2: you know. But by Tuesday we kind of got everybody back.

1648
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 2: So Tuesday was kind of install based stuff. Wednesday was good.

1649
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 2: Thursdays off, man, would you like to sleep in? And

1650
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:29,520
Speaker 2: then anybody ever tell you about my sleep in thursdays?

1651
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 2: I've heard a couple of we got a couple of stories.

1652
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 4: You gotta tell the Darren base that you gotta tell

1653
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 4: the story too.

1654
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, late, no, I will. It happened here, and it

1655
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 2: was Kevin. We had Kevin May, I had Kevin White center,

1656
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 2: and you know, we were we had a physical stretch,

1657
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 2: and I just felt like we just needed something different.

1658
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 2: And so Wednesday after practice, I called a team meeting.

1659
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 2: Well you know what happened That never happens, right, Yeah,

1660
01:21:56,760 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 2: Wednesday after practice, guys are going, oh ship, who fucked? Yeah?

1661
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 2: This bullshit? And I got up and I just said, hey, look,

1662
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 2: I said, when you go, we're gonna finish up. Whatever

1663
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 2: you're gonna do. You watch Tate, watch practice, get your work,

1664
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 2: whatever you're going to do. When you go home, before

1665
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 2: you go to bed, turn your alarm clocks off, turn

1666
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 2: your phone off. I want you to sleep in the

1667
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 2: morning and sleep as long as you can. Now, I said,

1668
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 2: that's no, that's not a pass to go freaking tear

1669
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 2: the town down tonight, because I'm going to go out

1670
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 2: look for you. Make sure you're not freaking in wherever

1671
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 2: in the bars. But the point is is sleep in,

1672
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 2: don't take the kids to school, don't get up early,

1673
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,680
Speaker 2: don't do anything for mama. You need the rest and

1674
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 2: come in around noon. I don't give a shit when

1675
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:37,439
Speaker 2: you come in, but just try to be in by

1676
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 2: noon or pull thirty. And I saw Kevin the hall

1677
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 2: around ten o'clock and Kevin goes, Jeff. That's the best

1678
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:44,639
Speaker 2: thing that's ever happened in my whole career fourteen years

1679
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 2: was to be able to sleep in sleep in on

1680
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 2: a Thursday in November, and so sleep in Thursdays took

1681
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 2: on a whole life of their own right, and now

1682
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 2: it's you know, you know how you guys are after

1683
01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 2: a big win Sunday afternoon dream Monday and Thursdays.

1684
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it motivates you a weird way to like, you know, hey,

1685
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 1: we're going to get to sleep in Thursday.

1686
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 2: Boy. Yeah. In the fourth I went, I went to

1687
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 2: Thursday day off, Thursday totally day off. Yeah, so Monday's recovery. Okay,

1688
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:20,679
Speaker 2: Tuesday we're going to get your blood going to move around,

1689
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 2: get your sore on us out and do all that

1690
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. And it's all based half speed practice,

1691
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:26,679
Speaker 2: just a little bit more than to walk through. Wednesday

1692
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 2: we're going to go, you know, and then Thursday's your

1693
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:31,759
Speaker 2: day and then come back in Friday Fast Friday.

1694
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 3: We never did a sleep in Thursday with but Rabel

1695
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 3: does towards the end of the season. He does a

1696
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 3: really good job of knowing where the guy's bodies are

1697
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 3: at and knowing what it takes. Now in this league,

1698
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 3: because a lot of guys, a lot of coaches will

1699
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 3: play in the eighties, play in the nineties. They'll come

1700
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 3: and coming, coach, well, this is what we did. Yeah, well,

1701
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 3: there's been a lot of advancements in modern science.

1702
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 2: Let's let's let's take us So. Yeah, so sleep and

1703
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 2: diet and just all those things are so important, but

1704
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 2: just the rest and recovery, you know, but that that

1705
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:02,720
Speaker 2: you that starts, you should start that. I mean I

1706
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:05,679
Speaker 2: always had this philosophy, partticularly because I played. I wasn't

1707
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 2: very good, but I played five years in the league,

1708
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 2: and I remember the day the calendar year. And I'll

1709
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 2: ask both of you guys, what day in the calendar

1710
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 2: year did you feel the absolute best, meaning physically in shape,

1711
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 2: ready to freaking go. And your answer is probably the

1712
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 2: day before training Yeah, so what happens in training camp?

1713
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 2: You do this right, right, okay, and then you never

1714
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 2: get it back. Training camp should be up and then

1715
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 2: it should be and then you you know, and then

1716
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 2: the season starts. You're here.

1717
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 4: They want to work so hard and all is just

1718
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:39,839
Speaker 4: to fucking take away everything.

1719
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're training during the off season just to

1720
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 2: get through camp, not to use camp, but just to

1721
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 2: get through camp. Now it doesn't you know, because back

1722
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:53,919
Speaker 2: in the day when I played, there were six preseason

1723
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:57,640
Speaker 2: games and went you went to camp and you were

1724
01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 2: two days every day. Okay, even Friday. Water makes you weak, yeah, yeah,

1725
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 2: and hundreds you run a hundred. You run hunters after practice.

1726
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 2: Head coach tells you, get on the goal line, we're

1727
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,639
Speaker 2: running ten hundreds. Guess what, you went to the goal line.

1728
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:11,839
Speaker 2: You put your hand down. You freaking ran ten hundreds.

1729
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 2: If you someone to tell you guys that, now you

1730
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 2: start looking cross arms and go.

1731
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 3: Really well, you'd have guys too that if you're running

1732
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 3: hunters after every practice, yea, guys are thinking in there

1733
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:20,639
Speaker 3: head to have with your practice.

1734
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:26,200
Speaker 2: I better consistent. Yeah yeah, yeah, I want. I want.

1735
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 2: I want you to grab grab a couple of rookies

1736
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 2: or grab whoever you want and run on your own,

1737
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:33,560
Speaker 2: you know, And then I want to be able to

1738
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:35,280
Speaker 2: say no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You

1739
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 2: don't need to be running on Friday, whatever it is,

1740
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 2: but that needs to be. That needs to be the mindset.

1741
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:42,640
Speaker 2: So you know, when you come in the morning, you

1742
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:45,719
Speaker 2: you park in the parking lot, you're run in because

1743
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 2: you can't wait to get to work. You look forward

1744
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:50,560
Speaker 2: to getting to work, okay. And then I believe that

1745
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 2: our job is to make sure that when when you're

1746
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 2: there during the day, especially on the field, that you

1747
01:25:56,280 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 2: are mentally, emotionally, physically, spiritual, what ever is ready to practice.

1748
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 2: So that's all the ship I got, all the ship

1749
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:07,760
Speaker 2: needs to be. You need to be clear, you know.

1750
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:10,560
Speaker 2: So if that means that your mom called and she

1751
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:13,719
Speaker 2: want a different color escalade on Friday, and she wants

1752
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 2: it now, and that's burdening you, that's a distraction, okay.

1753
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 2: So I want a distraction free fun. Understand what we

1754
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 2: got to get done work wise, and get it done,

1755
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 2: and then you know, you take you go to the

1756
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:29,560
Speaker 2: next day. But so much of that and then you

1757
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 2: have to change. You just have to be changed. And

1758
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:34,639
Speaker 2: just like you said, what Mike did, you got to change.

1759
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 2: You got to get and have a feel and back down.

1760
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 2: Call this period off. Do the ship and and then

1761
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 2: and you know, while all that's going on, you gotta

1762
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:44,680
Speaker 2: have fun. Yeah, you gotta have funny. I laugh. You

1763
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 2: gotta just just have fun and pranks and whatever because you're.

1764
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 1: Around each other literally every day, all day, from Indo

1765
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 1: July all the way to you know, hopefully early February.

1766
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 2: He said, you said pranks.

1767
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 3: I heard Steve Watterson got you pretty good when you

1768
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,799
Speaker 3: guys came in for preseason or was a preseason or November?

1769
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 2: November you guys pre We only came in for a

1770
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 2: preseason game. Yeah, so and Steve got pretty good, he

1771
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 2: got he got back at us. Okay, no he didn't.

1772
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 2: He didn't get us pretty good.

1773
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 3: No, he You know, Steve, Steve take the story guy.

1774
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 3: So I want to know what's real and what's not.

1775
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 3: He said he'd get guys all the time. He was

1776
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 3: the king of pranks in his.

1777
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 2: Mind, well in his mind he was, and he also

1778
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 2: was the target. Okay, we'll go on forever about him.

1779
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 2: But but yeah, when we came in for the preseason game,

1780
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 2: I had somebody, I still had some ties, and I

1781
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 2: got uh, somebody got a hold of his car keys

1782
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 2: and during the game removed all four of his tires,

1783
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 2: put him on blocks and stacked the tires up. So

1784
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:51,439
Speaker 2: when he went out, when he went out to go home, yeah,

1785
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 2: why we're playing them and yeah yeah. So he he

1786
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:57,680
Speaker 2: got everything going and got his tires back on, and

1787
01:27:57,760 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 2: as the buses were come up, he had the guys

1788
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:01,599
Speaker 2: pull up the things so our buses couldn't get out,

1789
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 2: and he yelled at the buses. So that was his

1790
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:10,560
Speaker 2: version of getting this. That's the center block things hilarious. No, No,

1791
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:13,720
Speaker 2: Chris long, Chris and the DB's and Saint Louis would

1792
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 2: always happen.

1793
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 1: You know, I heard Chris, and you can correct the

1794
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 1: story because the building he made a building, and basically put.

1795
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 2: He made three buildings, made three buildings. Yeah, no, they

1796
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 2: were the story were DB's. No, we were weren't. It

1797
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 2: was the last game of you. I think we were

1798
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:30,679
Speaker 2: in Seattle, we're coming back. We were going to land

1799
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 2: lad and it was just right after Christmas and we

1800
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:37,919
Speaker 2: weren't in the playoffs. And Chris, they had the DB's

1801
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 2: and the D line had been going at it for

1802
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 2: a while and so Chris had found a contractor and

1803
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:48,639
Speaker 2: he built these. He built three just one room, four

1804
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 2: sided with the roof buildings okay, and big enough, big

1805
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 2: enough to put their cars in it. So he had

1806
01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 2: them built. He had the cars driven in and then

1807
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 2: they pounded the nails and they completely was four walls

1808
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 2: around their cars. And then he had in Christmas lights.

1809
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 2: He had twenty one, twenty two, and maybe twenty three

1810
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 2: the three DB's numbers on outside on the on the wall.

1811
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 2: And and so when we pull up, there's a field

1812
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 2: by the facility. Now keep in mind, and we've come

1813
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 2: all the way back from Sheall. We got out the

1814
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 2: plane as the last game and guys, are you know

1815
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 2: really and we're getting the bus and we're pulling in

1816
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden that started going and you

1817
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 2: can see all of the numbers on these three buildings.

1818
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:33,679
Speaker 2: Chris had told guys what he'd done. But the DB's

1819
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 2: they they go in their lockers and they're going to

1820
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:39,559
Speaker 2: drive home and they can't find their keys, and they're

1821
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:41,680
Speaker 2: standing in the lobby trying to figure out where their

1822
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:43,680
Speaker 2: keys are. They don't eat, they haven't even put two

1823
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:46,720
Speaker 2: and two together that their their keys are somewhere else,

1824
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:48,640
Speaker 2: but their cars are in those three buildings on the

1825
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 2: lock with their number all yea. So they cabbed home

1826
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But yeah, they did stuff like

1827
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 2: that all the time. Yeah, that's hilarious. That's fucking legendary.

1828
01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah that is all.

1829
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 4: It sounds like you, uh, maybe want to get back

1830
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:01,400
Speaker 4: into coaching.

1831
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:03,880
Speaker 2: Oh you never what, I'll tell you what I missed.

1832
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:07,800
Speaker 2: I miss you, guys, I miss you. But that's what

1833
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 2: I miss is that I missed the relationship with the

1834
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 2: players and the all the fun and all the stuff

1835
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 2: and you know that, and competing in the games and

1836
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 2: then the anthem. Yeah, I'm then that's awesome. Can you

1837
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 2: bring up We'll have like fan questions and that before

1838
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:26,720
Speaker 2: fan questions. I want to know two things because you

1839
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:28,160
Speaker 2: know what time it is, because I got to catch

1840
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 2: a flight. It is twelve thirty two. I'm right, we

1841
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 2: got about ten more. Yeah, okay, So two.

1842
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:39,120
Speaker 3: Things happen that we were intertwined about. One was the

1843
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 3: twenty fourteen draft. There were two tackles stayed before me.

1844
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:44,439
Speaker 3: There was Greg Robinson and number two with you, guys,

1845
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:46,560
Speaker 3: which I want to know you the process because you

1846
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:48,200
Speaker 3: actually brought me and Greg Robinson in for at the

1847
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:49,960
Speaker 3: same time to do visits and I'm gonna sitting with

1848
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:50,639
Speaker 3: you at your office.

1849
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:51,760
Speaker 2: How was that?

1850
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 3: What was the deciding factors in those things? And then

1851
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:58,599
Speaker 3: also after my second year, they were talking about replacing

1852
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:01,679
Speaker 3: me with Lamy Tunsel one overall pick, and you guys

1853
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 3: ended up trading for the number one pick. And so

1854
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:07,200
Speaker 3: in a way you helped me at the end. And

1855
01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:09,240
Speaker 3: I wouldn't rather be any place in Tennessee. This place

1856
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 3: is unbelievable, right, But at the end, obviously when you're

1857
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:13,639
Speaker 3: going through the draft, you want to be the number

1858
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 3: one tackle. You wanted to number an overall pick like

1859
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 3: all that stuff. End up being the third tackle, taking

1860
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 3: eleventh overall. So what were the things you saw in

1861
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:24,280
Speaker 3: Greg in his game at the time that you didn't

1862
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 3: see in my game?

1863
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 2: Didn't see anything missing from your game none at all.

1864
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:32,800
Speaker 2: Knew that you would be a ten year vet, you know,

1865
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:34,680
Speaker 2: you would have a ten year career and you'd be

1866
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:36,599
Speaker 2: pro bowler and all that kind of stuff. That's how

1867
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 2: he brought you in. Oftentimes there are they're good, the

1868
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 2: hard decisions, but they're a good problem to have. Okay,

1869
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 2: so you were slam dunk. Okay, we felt like athletic

1870
01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:56,040
Speaker 2: ability wise, when I watched Greg walk on his hands

1871
01:31:56,120 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 2: and do throw foot and do that kind of stuff.

1872
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 2: In addition to that, they had a private workout, we'd

1873
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:04,800
Speaker 2: done the background checks. I had a son on the

1874
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:08,759
Speaker 2: roster at Auburn, it was playing at Auburn. He knew Greg,

1875
01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:11,760
Speaker 2: he liked Greg, and it was just kind of I

1876
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:13,400
Speaker 2: don't want to say it came down to a flip

1877
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 2: of a coin, but you could couldn't go wrong, you know,

1878
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:20,840
Speaker 2: and it was obviously we went wrong, you know. But

1879
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:23,640
Speaker 2: it's just kind of one of those deals. I mean,

1880
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:29,880
Speaker 2: and I want to buy the comparable standards are probably

1881
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:32,960
Speaker 2: not it's not a good analogy, but you know, four

1882
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 2: or five years ago, my last year there, we traded

1883
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:37,439
Speaker 2: the number one and we decided between Jered Golf and

1884
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 2: Carson Wentz. Yeah, it was a great problem to have,

1885
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:45,200
Speaker 2: you know, And so you know, it's just one of

1886
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 2: those things. I mean, I remember our interview. I mean,

1887
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 2: I remember we got the combine for a brief moment,

1888
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:53,600
Speaker 2: and then we had you on the visiting and you

1889
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:55,439
Speaker 2: were with Boudreaux, when you spent a lot of time

1890
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 2: and hung around.

1891
01:32:56,320 --> 01:33:00,160
Speaker 3: We loved you, sat down single, double, triple ABC, all

1892
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:02,680
Speaker 3: those things ready to go on those visits. Yeah, it

1893
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 3: was pretty Actually it's pretty awful.

1894
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:07,000
Speaker 2: It is that it is not one problem if I

1895
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:09,640
Speaker 2: have with the league, and you remember the conversation how

1896
01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:11,559
Speaker 2: many visits if you had, oh it was fourteen. Yeah,

1897
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:13,720
Speaker 2: we're going to work out. I mean, it's just like

1898
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 2: you know, it's just travel, travel, travel travel. I came,

1899
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 2: I came from Detroit.

1900
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:21,639
Speaker 3: I flip from Arizona, I think San Francisco to Detroit

1901
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:23,760
Speaker 3: and and too, you guys same all in the same day.

1902
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 1: When you're wanting to be the number one linebacker taking

1903
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:28,320
Speaker 1: to the draft and there's like fifteen to twenty that

1904
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:30,360
Speaker 1: go ahead of you, what was it that you saw

1905
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:32,600
Speaker 1: on them that you probably didn't see in me?

1906
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 2: Well, let me see who are those that were taking

1907
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:39,719
Speaker 2: a head. I have no clue.

1908
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 1: I guess Mattha Tao was, Yeah, I don't even know.

1909
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:44,120
Speaker 1: I don't even know anymore.

1910
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 4: That's a fun question we had, like you want to

1911
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:48,639
Speaker 4: be number one, but I ended up being number.

1912
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 2: Three in the first round.

1913
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:55,200
Speaker 3: Eleven. I was eleven, third tackles, third tackle. It's interesting

1914
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:56,240
Speaker 3: to get the percept.

1915
01:33:56,800 --> 01:33:59,320
Speaker 2: Thing, understand the understand the process too, because it all

1916
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:01,880
Speaker 2: starts with an area scout. So we had an area

1917
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 2: scout at Michigan and we had an aero scout at

1918
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:07,599
Speaker 2: Alabama and they're both grading you guys, and they're different guys.

1919
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:10,839
Speaker 2: And then you have you have directors and assistant directors

1920
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 2: of college scouting that graded you both independently, and so

1921
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:20,759
Speaker 2: now you've got like five different opinions on both guys. Okay,

1922
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:23,800
Speaker 2: so now after the season is over, now you start

1923
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 2: to mesh your opinions. Now I'm looking at tape, and

1924
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 2: then you got someone else that's the wh line coaches

1925
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 2: looking at tape, and so you end up oftentimes was

1926
01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 2: just too much information. Yeah you know, and I fundamentally

1927
01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:40,679
Speaker 2: think right now that there's not enough tape being watched.

1928
01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:45,040
Speaker 2: I think people are sharing and talking and social media

1929
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:49,880
Speaker 2: grading and not doing the hard hands on sit down

1930
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 2: and watch you play. I watch you play early, watch

1931
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:56,000
Speaker 2: you play middle, watch you play late. But more specifically,

1932
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to watch and see who the best defensive

1933
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 2: end was because I want to see you protect and

1934
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 2: then you know, watch I mean watch games throughout the

1935
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:06,600
Speaker 2: course of the season. Well that's how I do. But

1936
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:09,679
Speaker 2: as a head coach, you can't look at everybody. Yeah

1937
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:12,639
Speaker 2: you know, and you really can't. So you know, it's

1938
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:15,960
Speaker 2: it's it's not right. It's not my place to tell

1939
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:19,240
Speaker 2: the organization in the draft room in the fifth round

1940
01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:21,439
Speaker 2: which guard I'm going to take. But I didn't seen them,

1941
01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:24,639
Speaker 2: you know, and so but you have to trust people

1942
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 2: that have seen them, and you have to trust at

1943
01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:29,160
Speaker 2: your boards, right, And I just think people. I'm not

1944
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:32,560
Speaker 2: saying it's scouts, because scouts are doing the work, but

1945
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:37,960
Speaker 2: I'm saying people in decision making positions aren't. Aren't spending

1946
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:43,960
Speaker 2: the time to really truly evaluate the players. I think

1947
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:45,800
Speaker 2: they're I mean, I think they do a good job.

1948
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 2: They got a lot of people doing it, you know,

1949
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 2: And so I really haven't. I never used any outside

1950
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:55,880
Speaker 2: sources or never nooked at mock drafts and never did anything.

1951
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 2: You just kind of sit there and just tell me

1952
01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:02,240
Speaker 2: what are what tell me what the team's needs are, Okay,

1953
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:04,040
Speaker 2: and then I'll sit there. We'll sit there in the

1954
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:06,880
Speaker 2: draft room and based on their needs, okay, well they

1955
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:09,080
Speaker 2: could go here, they could go there, but let's make

1956
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:11,479
Speaker 2: sure our draft boards, right. Yeah, you know, I got you. So,

1957
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 2: but you guys are kind of the process. You guys

1958
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:14,679
Speaker 2: took all.

1959
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:16,800
Speaker 4: Global Tree of the Year before me. Anyway, so it's

1960
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 4: probably tough much for you.

1961
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:25,680
Speaker 2: I think Marcus Alec Yeah, alex Is, I think big money. Well,

1962
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:27,200
Speaker 2: we draft them, they traded them.

1963
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:29,040
Speaker 1: Well, you guys paid the big money and then traded

1964
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 1: them that same day. It was not involved in okay,

1965
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:32,800
Speaker 1: because I remember seeing that.

1966
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:35,760
Speaker 2: I was like, what does this You're just going to

1967
01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 2: trade it? Right? How about this? Talk about this? So

1968
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:40,960
Speaker 2: which we draft, we draft treat and uh, it's a

1969
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 2: pretty good rookie years what in shape we got there?

1970
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:46,760
Speaker 2: But he finished really strong after that last three or

1971
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:49,639
Speaker 2: four games. So you know, the all season program is gone.

1972
01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:52,560
Speaker 2: So first day of the all season program starts and

1973
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 2: all I want to do is just want to get

1974
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:57,840
Speaker 2: await I wanted. I wanted because really something you know,

1975
01:36:57,920 --> 01:37:00,560
Speaker 2: you leave in January and you come back and I

1976
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:02,320
Speaker 2: just the guys are all coming in and saying hey

1977
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 2: d D D day. We waited everybody when they got

1978
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:10,120
Speaker 2: in there. And then I get a call and coach yeah, Tree, yeah,

1979
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:14,240
Speaker 2: all right, he goes he's like thirty two pounds heavier

1980
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:18,639
Speaker 2: than when he left, and I went, oh, I go, really,

1981
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:21,360
Speaker 2: I go, you sure you're scaling? Goes? Are you? I'm

1982
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:24,720
Speaker 2: telling you that? So first meeting, so this is like

1983
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:28,600
Speaker 2: a half hour later, I have told my assistant to

1984
01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:31,720
Speaker 2: I said, go to Carlos Junior, go to McDonald's, go

1985
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:33,519
Speaker 2: to burg King, go wherever, and just get shit. I

1986
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 2: want bags. I want the bags, okay, and bring them

1987
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 2: as fast as you can. And I said, I called

1988
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:40,400
Speaker 2: down the video. I go, hey, put a I want

1989
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:42,720
Speaker 2: a TV up on stage. I want a chair, I

1990
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:44,960
Speaker 2: want a couple of little a couple of little dumbbells,

1991
01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:47,559
Speaker 2: and I want a table out there. And I don't

1992
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 2: even care what's hooked up, but I want to. I'm mad.

1993
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:50,760
Speaker 2: And then in there and they go, what are you doing?

1994
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:52,320
Speaker 2: I said, just do it, I said, and bring me

1995
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:56,800
Speaker 2: bring me trees, jersey and a hoodie. And they go, okay.

1996
01:37:56,920 --> 01:38:00,200
Speaker 2: So so we have our first meeting. Start off, he's

1997
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:02,519
Speaker 2: a program, and everybody's been gone for three months. And

1998
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 2: everybody comes in all the gain. You know, everybody's going

1999
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 2: for him yet to see it. Everybody's just like that.

2000
01:38:08,640 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 2: And I come walking around the corner up on stage

2001
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 2: and I have a hoodie, I have glasses, I have

2002
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:19,280
Speaker 2: fifty two and I have a pillow underneath my found

2003
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:23,240
Speaker 2: in this jersey. And I walk up and in addition

2004
01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:26,080
Speaker 2: to that, I had cookies and chips and shit food

2005
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:28,519
Speaker 2: all over the place, and I just I walked up

2006
01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:32,200
Speaker 2: and as if nobody was sitting out there, I walked

2007
01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 2: up and walked over, and I popped some chips and

2008
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:37,599
Speaker 2: you know, and then I did this, and I act

2009
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:39,439
Speaker 2: like I was eating this, and then I was going

2010
01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:41,679
Speaker 2: over and guys start laughing. I walk and I'm walking

2011
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:44,920
Speaker 2: around doing this, and then I sit back and I

2012
01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:48,760
Speaker 2: grabbed this, and I'm just playing some PlayStation like you know,

2013
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:51,120
Speaker 2: and you can see I'm just and so I'm acting

2014
01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:52,600
Speaker 2: like I don't even know they're there, and they're just

2015
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:56,160
Speaker 2: rolling fricking laughing. And so I move around, I do this,

2016
01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:58,760
Speaker 2: I walk back, I bring some more food out, sit down.

2017
01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:01,320
Speaker 2: Kind of got like it's time to work out, and

2018
01:39:01,479 --> 01:39:03,880
Speaker 2: so I grabbed that two pound dumbbell and I just

2019
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 2: kind of ate and I was like getting my work

2020
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:08,880
Speaker 2: out and put it down with the sleep and then

2021
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:12,400
Speaker 2: I finished. By I finished, I had one more thing

2022
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 2: of chips and cookies and shit, and I didn't have

2023
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:16,680
Speaker 2: a place to put them, and I just put them

2024
01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:18,560
Speaker 2: on the ground. And I don't know what possessed me,

2025
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:21,559
Speaker 2: but I laid down on top of them and popped

2026
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:23,880
Speaker 2: the chips like a dog and just kind of rolled

2027
01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:26,240
Speaker 2: on the food. And I got up and I said, hey,

2028
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:28,800
Speaker 2: let's have a great off season. And I walked out.

2029
01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:33,720
Speaker 2: So you think he got the message. Yeah, he got

2030
01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 2: the message. And it was he still I mean, I

2031
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:38,120
Speaker 2: hear he still talks about that to this day. I

2032
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:40,400
Speaker 2: mean he can't. He just looked too. I mean, everybody

2033
01:39:40,439 --> 01:39:42,120
Speaker 2: went down. He was, how's my weight? You know, it's like,

2034
01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:44,439
Speaker 2: oh shit, you know, and I didn't know we had

2035
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:46,600
Speaker 2: to weigh in and anyway, it was kind of I

2036
01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 2: didn't have to say anything to him about gaining weight,

2037
01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:51,880
Speaker 2: you know, gaining thirty pounds during the three months, and like,

2038
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:53,120
Speaker 2: I don't even want to know how he did it.

2039
01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:55,320
Speaker 2: I just want him to slowly take it off and

2040
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:59,400
Speaker 2: in the shade. But yeah, that's kind of how you

2041
01:39:59,479 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 2: send your man.

2042
01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, tub story, that tubbs, he's got to go in.

2043
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:08,200
Speaker 1: I know, but this is a phenomenal Sorry, well yeah,

2044
01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:08,880
Speaker 1: I mean it was.

2045
01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:13,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a slow start. We had early by

2046
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 2: and I don't know, we were two and four whatever

2047
01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:17,720
Speaker 2: it was. We had a bye week and we just

2048
01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:20,360
Speaker 2: lost a close game. And now we're going into the

2049
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:23,559
Speaker 2: bye week and after a loss, and you know, it's

2050
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:26,120
Speaker 2: just what are they? You know, it's you can imagine

2051
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:27,960
Speaker 2: you're gonna sit there on the Monday after the game

2052
01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:29,880
Speaker 2: and go, oh man, this is not gonna be fun.

2053
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:33,040
Speaker 2: We got bye, you gonna kill us? And I think

2054
01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:35,120
Speaker 2: it was. It wasn't it was. It was later in

2055
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:37,160
Speaker 2: the bye week. It was right before the end, but

2056
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:40,639
Speaker 2: before the guys took off, and and uh, I filled

2057
01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:43,800
Speaker 2: tubs up and had them covered with with ice down beer,

2058
01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:46,280
Speaker 2: and I got up there and I just basically told

2059
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:48,160
Speaker 2: the team that they just got a melmbo from the league.

2060
01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:51,599
Speaker 2: That's even starting over. They was just for some reason,

2061
01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:53,519
Speaker 2: it's a fucked up deal. But the league decided to

2062
01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:57,240
Speaker 2: start season over clean slight. Everybody's starting over. So this

2063
01:40:57,479 --> 01:40:59,479
Speaker 2: is this is your last week of training camp. You

2064
01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:02,040
Speaker 2: got the week kid off. Come back. We're starting freaking

2065
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:04,679
Speaker 2: under fee. Let's go win the division. And in the meantime, boys,

2066
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:08,679
Speaker 2: let's drink some beers. So beers out. So we started

2067
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:10,880
Speaker 2: tossing beers out and ship they went out and out

2068
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:13,080
Speaker 2: of great by weekend and then came back. So yeah,

2069
01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:15,840
Speaker 2: it's just different stuff. So that's all to get the

2070
01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:19,040
Speaker 2: boys going for the Yeah, that is the camaraderie. Man,

2071
01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:21,920
Speaker 2: you're not going to get Well, we had it, we

2072
01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:26,160
Speaker 2: had a deal and this would be the perfect forum.

2073
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:29,120
Speaker 2: But we went out and practiced against the Cowboys when

2074
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:31,000
Speaker 2: and we were moved the year before we moved to

2075
01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:32,519
Speaker 2: l A. We went out talks and Art had the

2076
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:36,080
Speaker 2: joint prite against the Cowboys, and so basically it was

2077
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:38,360
Speaker 2: you know, hey, you know, we're going to practice, and

2078
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 2: we got we got we have two practices and they're padded,

2079
01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:44,400
Speaker 2: and I just kind of preached that, look, I don't

2080
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:49,719
Speaker 2: need bullshit. We're going to freaking physically play within the rules,

2081
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:52,200
Speaker 2: kick their ass. This is a great measuring stick for us.

2082
01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:53,960
Speaker 2: But I don't need bullshit, you know, I don't want

2083
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:58,000
Speaker 2: fighting and all kind of stuff. Well, Des was hurt

2084
01:41:58,040 --> 01:42:00,200
Speaker 2: and he had held out and he wasn't practicing, and

2085
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:03,240
Speaker 2: Dez was standing on the sideline and Dez was just

2086
01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:05,439
Speaker 2: I didn't know it because I was on the other

2087
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:07,920
Speaker 2: other field with the with the I was on the

2088
01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:11,880
Speaker 2: other field with offense, and Des had just gotten a

2089
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 2: little out of control and nobody really calmed him down.

2090
01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:16,920
Speaker 2: It was just MF and all the dbs. Yeah, but

2091
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:20,320
Speaker 2: he wasn't practicing. He was just standing there, and so

2092
01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:22,479
Speaker 2: you know, I got word on the way back to

2093
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:24,960
Speaker 2: the hotel that this is not good. So you know,

2094
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:27,280
Speaker 2: I tried to. I made a call and said, hey, look,

2095
01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:29,800
Speaker 2: is there any way you guys could maybe control Dez

2096
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:32,599
Speaker 2: a little bit because it's really inappropriate what he's saying

2097
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:34,599
Speaker 2: and how in his behavior and da da da da da.

2098
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:38,439
Speaker 2: And I knew that the des is hard to keep quiet,

2099
01:42:38,479 --> 01:42:40,200
Speaker 2: you know. I knew there was probably the odds of

2100
01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:43,000
Speaker 2: that happened again. And if it happened again, I knew

2101
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:44,599
Speaker 2: that the guys would take it in their own hands.

2102
01:42:44,840 --> 01:42:47,439
Speaker 2: And so I did the same thing. I filled the

2103
01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 2: coolers on the bus with beers, knowing that the next

2104
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:56,639
Speaker 2: day's practice was going to get cut short because of fights. Yeah. Fighting,

2105
01:42:56,720 --> 01:43:00,599
Speaker 2: you always knowing that's brilliant. Yeah, so on the second

2106
01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:04,240
Speaker 2: and it and it did and it was, oh my gosh.

2107
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:07,280
Speaker 2: But was the recipient of a few. I got a

2108
01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:09,320
Speaker 2: lot more respect for him because I could take a

2109
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:15,200
Speaker 2: hit now he did so. But we Yeah, so anyway,

2110
01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:17,760
Speaker 2: guys were just hooting and hollering, drinking beers all the

2111
01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:19,840
Speaker 2: way back to the hotel and in the training room,

2112
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 2: and you know, we had whatever but it's just kind

2113
01:43:23,120 --> 01:43:25,200
Speaker 2: of those things, you know. I mean, you know, if

2114
01:43:25,240 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 2: you're in the locker room and as you should be,

2115
01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:30,519
Speaker 2: and you get a pulse in a sense and a feel,

2116
01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:33,040
Speaker 2: and you know you have relationships with therebod you know

2117
01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:35,680
Speaker 2: what your team? Oh, absolutely, you just need to do

2118
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:38,360
Speaker 2: that and that's why you know, that's why you know

2119
01:43:38,439 --> 01:43:40,519
Speaker 2: as always And I don't know how it is other places,

2120
01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:43,040
Speaker 2: but man, I mean that locker room is a place

2121
01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:45,760
Speaker 2: for everybody. And I'm walking I'm in that locker room

2122
01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:47,640
Speaker 2: three or four times a day, just hanging out and

2123
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:50,400
Speaker 2: just get whatever. Because I don't want you guys to

2124
01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:52,519
Speaker 2: stop your conversation while I walk by. I want you

2125
01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:54,560
Speaker 2: to feel like I belong there, you know, and all that.

2126
01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:57,479
Speaker 2: So you can't allow those things. You can't allow those

2127
01:43:57,520 --> 01:44:00,360
Speaker 2: things become whatever they are, sanctuary, whatever, this you know,

2128
01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 2: it's it's it's twenty years of doing it. You get it, cut,

2129
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:07,280
Speaker 2: you get it, feel for it. Yeah. So that's awesome. Well,

2130
01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:09,439
Speaker 2: we appreciate you coming on with No, you guys are great. No,

2131
01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:13,560
Speaker 2: let's I want to circle right back around, uh to

2132
01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:17,559
Speaker 2: Nashville and to what you guys have got in store

2133
01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:20,000
Speaker 2: and which you got rolling in your softball game and

2134
01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:22,160
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff helps these people here because

2135
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:26,960
Speaker 2: this is this is unlike any place I've ever lived,

2136
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:30,160
Speaker 2: and uh, I'm spending my time between Montana and here.

2137
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:32,320
Speaker 2: I've got to remodel here. This is my home. My

2138
01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:36,200
Speaker 2: kids are here, and I love the city and love

2139
01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:39,960
Speaker 2: the franchise, and you know you guys, and just we

2140
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:42,360
Speaker 2: have a responsibility to do what we can. I know

2141
01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:45,599
Speaker 2: you guys are doing that. So our thoughts, prayers, all

2142
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:49,559
Speaker 2: those things, and just confidence and patience and and trust

2143
01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:51,400
Speaker 2: go out to all those people whose lives will be

2144
01:44:51,439 --> 01:44:55,000
Speaker 2: affected forever by this tragedy. We're gonna need your help

2145
01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:57,240
Speaker 2: doing it too. While you're here at State. We got that.

2146
01:44:57,439 --> 01:45:00,320
Speaker 1: We got all hands on deck, Dade, Yeah, Tane, and

2147
01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:03,360
Speaker 1: our hype that this platform can finally don't do something

2148
01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:06,040
Speaker 1: giving back and get involved in us your voice and stuff.

2149
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:09,840
Speaker 2: So it's a good luck to you. Thank you, appreciate it,

2150
01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:12,120
Speaker 2: Appreciate you. So yeah, yeah, I love it.