Speaker 1: Sabrina, Yes, happy birthday, thanks Will. How was your birthday?
Speaker 1: Was this a special birthday? Was this a good birthday?
Speaker 1: Was this an important birthday? Was this the tough birthday?
Speaker 1: What kind of birthday was this for you?
Speaker 2: Sabrina?
Speaker 3: It definitely hit differently than any other birthday?
Speaker 1: Did it?
Speaker 4: Really?
Speaker 1: Did it?
Speaker 3: Really? It's weird because I feel like this is the
Speaker 3: first one. Man, No, my thirtieth. I was so excited
Speaker 3: to get out of my twenties and be in my thirties,
Speaker 3: and then thirty five it was like, yes, this is
Speaker 3: like I love it.
Speaker 2: This one.
Speaker 3: It was just it's really crazy because it's not that
Speaker 3: I feel old or do I think of a like
Speaker 3: forty is an old number in any sense. It's just
Speaker 3: the first time where like I don't feel this age.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I see what you're saying, Like.
Speaker 3: I don't feel the way I thought I would feel
Speaker 3: turning forty.
Speaker 1: Are you one of those people that always want like
Speaker 1: Danielle was like this, daniel Fishl, I was like this
Speaker 1: where I always wanted to be older. Were you that
Speaker 1: person too or no?
Speaker 2: One?
Speaker 3: I really was super excited to get to thirties. I
Speaker 3: just felt like that's where everything in my life was
Speaker 3: really gonna be a lot of the.
Speaker 2: Things that I was wanting my decade.
Speaker 3: Yes, it just felt like it was like, I mean again,
Speaker 3: it was I got married, I had my babies. I mean,
Speaker 3: I was just like looking forward that I knew I
Speaker 3: didn't want to.
Speaker 2: Really have kids or do any of that in my twenties.
Speaker 3: I just always kind of knew my thirties was really
Speaker 3: gonna be that well, for a long time.
Speaker 2: I did, so, I don't know, it was crazy.
Speaker 3: I wasn't And my husband's just incredible, he is he
Speaker 3: knows me so well. I was no, because we're going
Speaker 3: on a big trip. We're doing Greece and Italy, and
Speaker 3: I'm super excited about that, and so I was going, no,
Speaker 3: we're not gonna I don't want to do anything else.
Speaker 3: We don't need to do dinner, we don't need to
Speaker 3: do friends over anything like that. And then of course,
Speaker 3: like this last weekend, he's like, okay, so everyone's coming over.
Speaker 3: I'm like what, And then of course I had the
Speaker 3: best day. He's like, if I didn't do that, you
Speaker 3: would be you would have been so sad to not
Speaker 3: see you know. I love to celebrate with my friends
Speaker 3: and I love. I have friends from so many different areas,
Speaker 3: some of my friends from LA to come down.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I have friends from so many different parts of my
Speaker 3: life that any chance I can get them all in
Speaker 3: one room and just kind of be able to spend
Speaker 3: time with each of them. And now, but so many
Speaker 3: of us have kids, and.
Speaker 1: I didn't get it. Is it was?
Speaker 2: Was it?
Speaker 1: Did? It? Was it regular to do?
Speaker 3: He doesn't have your he doesn't have your phone number,
Speaker 3: and I don't he Honestly, I don't think he was
Speaker 3: going to do it. Yeah, you do feel like you
Speaker 3: live that far away. But I had so much fun
Speaker 3: just getting together again. It was pretty you know, pretty
Speaker 3: tight knit group.
Speaker 2: And I loved it. It was super fun, very sweet.
Speaker 1: Well, happy birthday, thank you, not just to me, but
Speaker 1: happy birthday to the leads of the movie we're talking
Speaker 1: about today. Oh transition people, what drop? Look at that transition?
Speaker 2: We good.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Magical Rewind, the show that makes you
Speaker 1: want to grab your your friends, your popcorn and your PJ.
Speaker 1: Is that right? No, grab your popcorn and your friends
Speaker 1: and your pe Just watch the movie. Your friends are
Speaker 1: pjs and your popcorn the time. Your friends are pj's
Speaker 1: and your popcorn and go back to a time when
Speaker 1: all the houses were smart, the Waves, Tsunamis and the
Speaker 1: high School's musical.
Speaker 2: I'm Wilford Dell and I'm Sabrina Bryant, and.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about a twenty first birthday for the two
Speaker 1: leads of our movie today. That's right, Fill your cauldrons
Speaker 1: and complete your coven, because this week on Magical rewind
Speaker 1: we are seeing double with the two thousand and five
Speaker 1: fantasy d com Twitches and don't forget Twitches end up
Speaker 1: in Ditches. It's another October Ready and Halloween to Jason
Speaker 1: entry into Disney films, this time based on a popular
Speaker 1: Scholastic press book series of the same name from H. B.
Speaker 1: Gilmour and Randy Ricefield. I think I'm saying that right.
Speaker 1: This is a vehicle for the two of the biggest
Speaker 1: Disney stars ever and a debut on the Disney Channel
Speaker 1: on October fourteenth, Spooky Season two thousand and five Right
Speaker 1: in the middle. Like I said of the season lead up,
Speaker 1: the original airing brought in wait for it, seven million viewers,
Speaker 1: then a massed a total of over twenty one million
Speaker 1: in the first four airings, making it the week's most
Speaker 1: popular cable programming and ready for its sequel, Twitches two,
Speaker 1: which was released in two thousand and seven. But we're
Speaker 1: gonna get to that one down the road when we
Speaker 1: eventually get to this fabled sequel month, which is now
Speaker 1: building up where it's gonna have to be squel year because.
Speaker 2: Everything got a see here, there's so many.
Speaker 1: There are so many. The budget, if you can believe
Speaker 1: this at the time, remember two thousand and five was
Speaker 1: a whopping twenty million dollars, which is a very high
Speaker 1: number for the movies that we usually recap. But since
Speaker 1: they relied heavily on supernap effects, you can guess where
Speaker 1: a lot of that money went, and not all of
Speaker 1: it looked great. But anyway, that's not their fault. That
Speaker 1: is a fault of the time, which we'll get into.
Speaker 1: The movie was shot in good old Toronto. The coin
Speaker 1: landed on heads with a focus on green screen work
Speaker 1: to pull off some of the effects well pull off,
Speaker 1: putting in quotes, one fun Easter egg in the movie
Speaker 1: and another sign of how many movies are filmed in
Speaker 1: the Great White North. The Cameron's mansion is the same
Speaker 1: house that Regina George resides in in the movie Me
Speaker 1: and Girls. I have seen three quarters of Mean Girls,
Speaker 1: and it's funny. It's true. I keep trying to watch
Speaker 1: it on a plane with Daniel Fishel, and I get
Speaker 1: to the end and I have something else to do,
Speaker 1: or we land or something. Now, weirdly, it appears this
Speaker 1: movie has used two different titles. Twitches, which is the
Speaker 1: one we all know about, but it's also been listed
Speaker 1: as The Witches of Coventry, which is frankly not as catchy.
Speaker 1: Now do you think they did this because Twitches was
Speaker 1: too close to Bitches or Twitter?
Speaker 2: Maybe?
Speaker 1: I mean, but Twitch just kind of says exactly.
Speaker 3: I don't think Twitter was really around in thousand and five,
Speaker 3: so I don't know why they wouldn't because Twitches is
Speaker 3: so cute.
Speaker 1: I was literally driving with Susan yesterday and she said,
Speaker 1: what movie you doing? And I said Twitches, And without
Speaker 1: missing a beat, you went twin Witches. I was like,
Speaker 1: there you go.
Speaker 3: Yes, it made sense exactly what it is for the
Speaker 3: queens themselves of the channel that I loved it.
Speaker 1: It was perfect and like most of the movies that
Speaker 1: we cover, Twitches or The Witches of Coventry, but It's
Speaker 1: called Twitches is currently available to view on Disney Plus
Speaker 1: right now. You can watch it right now, watch it
Speaker 1: later after you listen, or watch it while you're wearing
Speaker 1: a tutu. Whatever you want to do. It's completely your
Speaker 1: call and we're not going to judge.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 1: We asked this every time, you're going to know my
Speaker 1: answer before we even get into it. But had you
Speaker 1: heard of seen new of Twitches before we watch this?
Speaker 3: Had heard of it, knew the twins were in it,
Speaker 3: obviously assumed it was about, you know, some kind of
Speaker 3: witch situation.
Speaker 2: But other than that, I had not seen it. No, No, really, yeah.
Speaker 1: I had seen this movie three times already. This is
Speaker 1: my favorite dcomp No, never seen this. No, I've never
Speaker 1: heard it. No idea what it was, no idea what
Speaker 1: I knew about it. But let's get into the synopsis.
Speaker 1: This is why I said happy birthday at the top
Speaker 1: s arena. Well, I said happy birthday because you're my
Speaker 1: friend and I love you. But what I was really
Speaker 1: saying is because reunited on their twenty first birthday, twin
Speaker 1: sisters use their magic powers to save their kingdom from
Speaker 1: the forces of darkness. Early thoughts, what did you think.
Speaker 2: Ooh, early thoughts.
Speaker 3: I felt like the beginning was a little slow for me,
Speaker 3: so early on I kind of went, oh, and again,
Speaker 3: why are there?
Speaker 2: I get that it's Halloween, but I don't know where
Speaker 2: I am when I walk into.
Speaker 3: Grocery stores or a regular coffee shop. No, one's really
Speaker 3: wearing costumes just during the day. No on Halloween. No,
Speaker 3: that was kind of I get it. It's a little
Speaker 3: it was a little too forced for me, and that
Speaker 3: was what was kind of being set up at the beginning.
Speaker 3: And again, I felt like it went a little slow.
Speaker 3: So it's kind of from the beginning going oh, this
Speaker 3: is not not my favorite so far, not my favorite
Speaker 3: so far, but it did end up getting better. And
Speaker 3: then there's a few things that obviously I know we're
Speaker 3: gonna get to that we're just like, why can't we
Speaker 3: find a normal looking freaking necklace for people? I get
Speaker 3: they're supposed to be these like off the night I
Speaker 3: came back on a stupid necklace, and they're everywhere in
Speaker 3: this movie.
Speaker 2: Is a bunch of weird necklaces everywhere.
Speaker 1: There really are. So I'm a nerd. I'm a big,
Speaker 1: big nerd. You'll notice behind you these are all fantasy novels.
Speaker 1: Every single one of them are fantasy novels. Fantasy novels
Speaker 1: are very important with two things, building the world. World
Speaker 1: building hugely important, and the magical system are too important.
Speaker 1: I still don't get a lot of what was going
Speaker 1: on in this movie. I don't get the dark. I
Speaker 1: don't get I will get into all this stuff. I
Speaker 1: don't get how it can sometimes come into our world
Speaker 1: and for some reason just burns flowers. I don't get
Speaker 1: a lot. So this movie didn't make a whole lot
Speaker 1: of sense to me. The stars of this movie, Tia
Speaker 1: and Tamaramori, who we will get into obviously, are stars
Speaker 1: bar none. They're incredible. They command the screen. You know why.
Speaker 1: They are the queens of the channel. They deserve to be.
Speaker 1: You cannot stop watching them. The whole mullyfamily phenomenally talented
Speaker 1: and couldn't be nicer. People didn't get a lot of
Speaker 1: what was going on. From strictly a fantasy nerd point
Speaker 1: of view, I didn't understand it trying to watch it
Speaker 1: again as a younger person. But even I would think
Speaker 1: the thirteen or fourteen year old me reading all these
Speaker 1: books which I started reading when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: in comic books would have been going, wait, I don't
Speaker 1: understand what's happening yet. Okay, so that's what I would say,
Speaker 1: see I because.
Speaker 2: I'm not in that. That's not my like.
Speaker 3: My thing, right, even me who isn't. I mean, you're
Speaker 3: looking for the details because the details are what I
Speaker 3: think people that really love genre like it builds it.
Speaker 2: That's like a huge part.
Speaker 3: Even me, who doesn't really need all of them, felt
Speaker 3: like I don't know what the hell is what and
Speaker 3: why things are happening.
Speaker 1: And their powers and the power even.
Speaker 3: Me, I'm going no, So and that's when I kind
Speaker 3: of go, if I'm gonna be that picky somebody who's
Speaker 3: an actual kind of fan of this kind of stuff
Speaker 3: is really gonna go, this does not make any sense.
Speaker 3: And then knowing knowing that because I knew there was
Speaker 3: a second one too, so I'm like, is it be like,
Speaker 3: are they holding back on these details maybe for the
Speaker 3: for the sequel?
Speaker 2: Is that why? Because there's just so many big holes.
Speaker 1: That just don't agreed, and a lot of it didn't
Speaker 1: make any sense. But we will get into that as
Speaker 1: we hit them. Yeah. Twitches was directed by Stuart Gill,
Speaker 1: a Hall of famer here on Magical rewind As. He
Speaker 1: also directed one of our absolute favorites, Going to the Mat,
Speaker 1: which he won a DJA Award for Phenomenal Movie, as
Speaker 1: well as Teenage MUTANTJA Turtles three, and episodes of Beauty
Speaker 1: and the Beast and Charmed two shows. He also acted
Speaker 1: as executive producer on the movie As we just said,
Speaker 1: and we're talking about stars. Two of Disney's biggest and
Speaker 1: brightest names, twins Tia and Tamara Moury, best known for
Speaker 1: the TV shows Sister Sister, which actually, strangely enough, has
Speaker 1: a very similar plot as Twitches, just without any witchcraft,
Speaker 1: and in both scripts they reunited in a clothing store. Now,
Speaker 1: in the book series that this was based on that
Speaker 1: we just talked about, the sisters weren't black, but Disney
Speaker 1: Channel was very quick to change that because they loved
Speaker 1: the Moory's so much. They were commanding the channel and
Speaker 1: hell yeah, let's do that, so they put him in
Speaker 1: there as the lead. Ta and Tamara worked together through
Speaker 1: the nineties and aughts, both appearing in Rob Schneider movie
Speaker 1: Hot Chick, and family focused projects like Seventeen Again and
Speaker 1: Double Wedding, and a reality show as sisters from twenty
Speaker 1: eleven and twenty thirteen. They even had their own R
Speaker 1: and B group voices in the nineties, but they would
Speaker 1: also branch out as inn visual performers Tia with a
Speaker 1: focus on cooking, TV shows and books, while also voicing
Speaker 1: Sasha in All the Brats Media and Tamara on the
Speaker 1: talk show The Real and as a regular on the
Speaker 1: Hallmark Channel. There are absolute icons that happened since there
Speaker 1: were kids. It's like them and Raven owned the channel
Speaker 1: and had every right to because they just commanded it.
Speaker 1: Have you ever met them? Were you a fan?
Speaker 3: I was a fan absolutely a lot from their TV show.
Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever met them.
Speaker 2: If I have, it was real quick and some random thing.
Speaker 3: But I have always heard a lot about just again
Speaker 3: like them, just being the hardest working.
Speaker 1: Young Amal the whole family too.
Speaker 3: Yes, we so smart, so so good about picking good
Speaker 3: projects for them, and you know they that I just
Speaker 3: heard they were just powerhouses.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I believe it. I mean their work is proof.
Speaker 1: Their work is absolutely true, Their careers are proof. Kristin
Speaker 1: Wilson plays Miranda. She's best known as young Lisa Doolittle
Speaker 1: in the Eddie Murphy movies from roles in the movies
Speaker 1: Bulletproof and Walking Tall, but she appears to have left
Speaker 1: the business in twenty eleven. Patrick Fabian plays the evil Fantos,
Speaker 1: who it took me a while to get that name.
Speaker 1: I swear to god, I thought they were saying mentos
Speaker 1: and it was weird to me where I was like
Speaker 1: Mentos the fresh Maker. Patrick is a very busy actors
Speaker 1: seen in an uncountable number of TV shows, including Verona Kamar's,
Speaker 1: Desperate Housewives and Grey's Anatomy, but it's best known as
Speaker 1: Howard Hamlin on The Breaking Batspin off Better Call Saul.
Speaker 1: He was also in an unaired television pilot that was
Speaker 1: called Jack's House, starring a young Will Friedel and amongst
Speaker 1: the most Canadian cast members. Illiana is played by actress
Speaker 1: Jennifer Robertson, an actress who ten years later would be
Speaker 1: known as Jocelyn Shit on the incredibly popular TV show
Speaker 1: Shit's Creek. She was so good for not the second
Speaker 1: she popped on, I was like, all right, there we go.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: And she brought some of that care she did. She
Speaker 3: actually definitely wow.
Speaker 2: She played this. She's so funny and God, she does
Speaker 2: not age. She looks exactly the same same age she
Speaker 2: looks Creka. She in this movie, and this movie was
Speaker 2: made forever ago.
Speaker 1: And anybody listening to this podcast who has not seen
Speaker 1: Ship's Creek you are missing out on truly one of
Speaker 1: the best ensemble casts in the last twenty five years
Speaker 1: on television. They are wonderful. The movie is eighty seven minutes,
Speaker 1: three little minutes away from that bull's ey. It's like
Speaker 1: we could see the bulls eye and they went nope, stopping.
Speaker 1: It feels like it's been years since we've been at
Speaker 1: the ninety now. The movie was written by Melissa Gould,
Speaker 1: who is a television writer from Party of Five, Beverly Hills,
Speaker 1: nine oh two to one Oer and Lizzie Maguire. But
Speaker 1: we noticed that Twitches was her last job ever in
Speaker 1: the business, at least the last credit that she has,
Speaker 1: which is strange. She shares the credit with Dan Berenson,
Speaker 1: who wrote on Sabrina the Teenage Witch and is the
Speaker 1: man behind so much decomming magic, including wait for this list,
Speaker 1: the Hannah Montana movie, Stuck in the Suburbs, Halloween Town,
Speaker 1: High teen Beach two, and the Cheetah Girls, One World. Also,
Speaker 1: he wrote Twitches to this time it's personal, as we
Speaker 1: all know, that's the name of every sequel we will
Speaker 1: be watching. Now we've talked about Halloween was big for you.
Speaker 1: So was there ever when you were a kid, Halloween
Speaker 1: or no Halloween? Did you ever fantasize that you were
Speaker 1: actually a princess, that you were actually had magic powers?
Speaker 1: Was this ever in your kind of repertoire or fantasy?
Speaker 3: Oh no, I don't think I ever thought that I
Speaker 3: had powers. I did think I was in ninja for
Speaker 3: quite some time.
Speaker 1: Me too. My dad's nickname for me is still Ninja.
Speaker 5: No Joy.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Maybe we're from the same ninja family.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's what the connection is right there, like you too.
Speaker 3: But my poor mom, especially after I started learning how
Speaker 3: to tumnel like gymnastics and stuff and was able to
Speaker 3: flip off of things, my poor mom really got.
Speaker 2: Just the hardest wes.
Speaker 3: I loved the cloth ones. That's like, oh, yeah, I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I are you talking about the sun? You're talking about
Speaker 1: the size? The ones that are like triangles with the
Speaker 1: one in the middle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you hold them close to it.
Speaker 3: Yes, I loved those I could never do the numb chucks.
Speaker 3: Always hit myself, always got myself in trouble with them.
Speaker 1: I still think I'm a ninja.
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Speaker 1: Okay, let us now get into twitches. So we open
Speaker 1: on a pretty awesome shot of a castle on a
Speaker 1: hill under a bright moon and surrounded by what could
Speaker 1: be smoky kind of lava. These are shots of Coventry.
Speaker 1: They're incredible. We know where the twenty million dollar budget went.
Speaker 1: Now I would like to put a small cavea on that.
Speaker 1: I would say they're incredible for two thousand and five. Yes,
Speaker 1: when you now go and even watch the Disney Channel
Speaker 1: movies from today, when you're watching you know a Zombies,
Speaker 1: or you're watching one of the one of the bigger
Speaker 1: descend in something like that, you can obviously see how
Speaker 1: the technology has gotten better. But for the time and
Speaker 1: for the channel, they looked pretty good. You look at
Speaker 1: them now through twenty twenty four eyes and you go, wow,
Speaker 1: that doesn't look very good. But back in the day,
Speaker 1: especially on the Disney Channel, it looks pretty great. We
Speaker 1: are told by a voiceover that this is the magical
Speaker 1: land of Coventry, which doesn't sound like an actual location.
Speaker 1: It sounds like a study of dressmakers, but it sounds
Speaker 1: like a study of making dressers. But the voice explains
Speaker 1: that darkness or the Darkness, has taken over the city
Speaker 1: and that twin daughters of the Sun and Moon were
Speaker 1: born on Halloween and one of the only ones who
Speaker 1: can restore the land. From a fantasy standpoint, very basic, awesome,
Speaker 1: I'm in you got me, no problem.
Speaker 2: But the dark darkness word didn't hit you. I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: there's any deeper than.
Speaker 1: The data are always have It's always the darkness. It's
Speaker 1: always the Dark Council. It's always the blackness. It's always
Speaker 1: the deep. There's always something along those lines, the void.
Speaker 1: There's always something where they can do. You know. That's
Speaker 1: that's pretty basic kind of stuff. Okay, you know the
Speaker 1: dark dark Wizards of Harry Potter kind of things, right,
Speaker 1: So that's but Darkness is after them even as newborns.
Speaker 1: We see the babies and their son and new necklaces.
Speaker 1: This is the Twitches. So the Darkness, which looks a
Speaker 1: lot again like the smoke Monster and Loss, but with
Speaker 1: blood and fire inside of it, roams the halls of
Speaker 1: the castle. So here's where you start trying to build
Speaker 1: the world out. Okay, so obviously it can break into fortresses,
Speaker 1: It is like smoke. It can come into different places. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm starting to figure this out, no problem. It starts
Speaker 1: to roam the halls of the castle. In another room,
Speaker 1: a robed man and woman run to save the babies.
Speaker 1: They call the kids Apolla and Artemis, which is supposed
Speaker 1: to be like Apollo and Artemis, who were the brother
Speaker 1: and sister, you know, mythological creatures from mythological gods of Greece,
Speaker 1: but obviously one of they're both, so they change to
Speaker 1: Apalla an Artemis okay, and get to a small argument
Speaker 1: about grammar. Eventually, they decide to leave separately into another
Speaker 1: dimension because the twins aren't safe there together. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: with you. They both disappear just as the darkness creeps
Speaker 1: up on them. The robed female finds herself in a
Speaker 1: busy city streets and leaves the child at a hospital.
Speaker 1: The man in the suburbs. It gets scared by some
Speaker 1: trick or treaters, but also ends up leaving the baby
Speaker 1: at an emergency room. Okay, the twins have been separated.
Speaker 1: They're now in our plane. Gotcha. I again, from a
Speaker 1: fantasy standpoint, I'm in It's basic. It's easy, No problem
Speaker 1: right on board. All these books behind me, a lot
Speaker 1: of them very similar. This is okay, okay, Twins are born,
Speaker 1: twins have powers, twins split up, twins different plane, easy, simple,
Speaker 1: easy peasy. Then time passes during the credits and we
Speaker 1: are now in the future. The sun necklace is now
Speaker 1: on a moor. I'm not even going to try to
Speaker 1: figure out which one, but one of them, do you
Speaker 1: know which one is?
Speaker 2: Which?
Speaker 7: Ok?
Speaker 3: Good, but one at least, and so now I'm going
Speaker 3: to one has a little beauty mark, and.
Speaker 2: I'm going I remember a beauty.
Speaker 3: Mark whack when I was younger and didn't pay attention
Speaker 3: to any details anywhere.
Speaker 1: But one with the beauty mark is Tia or Tamara.
Speaker 2: One of them is Tia or Tamara.
Speaker 1: Yees, that's how you do know it? One of them
Speaker 1: is that one of them is Tia or Tamara. Definitely.
Speaker 1: So I didn't know which one either. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to try to guess, okay, But she was the baby
Speaker 1: left in the suburbs. So she's in her room listening
Speaker 1: to music again, famous Disney trope coming up on a
Speaker 1: girl in her room. Great way to see what her
Speaker 1: life is like. Very easy, So automatically. She's listening to
Speaker 1: her music. She's drawing parents. Her parents, we can tell
Speaker 1: obviously we know have adopted her, but they tiptoe into
Speaker 1: a room holding a cake. She catches them and beats
Speaker 1: them to saying happy birthday. Her name is now Cameron,
Speaker 1: and she's turning twenty one. Her mom compliments her recent
Speaker 1: drawings of a woman who is beautiful and wearing a
Speaker 1: moon necklace, and we can see that she's it almost
Speaker 1: looks like They even say, like, is that a self portrait?
Speaker 1: She says, no, I don't think so, because the necklace
Speaker 1: is different. So she's in her mind drawing what we
Speaker 1: know is going to be her twin, but she does
Speaker 1: not yet know that yet, so it's her, but not
Speaker 1: exactly her. We then find ourselves somewhere else looking at
Speaker 1: the exact girl in the moon necklace drawing, now asleep.
Speaker 1: Two troll arms reached for her. She jumps up, but
Speaker 1: it's just a little girl surprising her for her birthday
Speaker 1: and for Halloween, because of course they were born on
Speaker 1: all hollows. Eve her roommate and the kid's mom say
Speaker 1: she was supposed to surprise her, not scarer. We can
Speaker 1: immediately tell her surroundings are less extravagant than Cameron's. She
Speaker 1: was adopted by a single mother who unfortunately recently passed away,
Speaker 1: and she slept in because she was writing in her
Speaker 1: journal and was up till well after midnight. She admits
Speaker 1: she's nocturnal. If the moon is up, then I'm up. Okay,
Speaker 1: we've established both girls. One has been, is up with
Speaker 1: the sun, loves to you know, the sun is up.
Speaker 1: She's got her powers or whatever. One is there with
Speaker 1: the moon, and one is rich. One is poor.
Speaker 2: Yep, gotcha, We're good.
Speaker 1: The girl asked if she misses her mom, and she
Speaker 1: admits that she does, but she's also just trying to
Speaker 1: find a job today. By the way, her name on
Speaker 1: this plane is Alex and she is played by either
Speaker 1: Tia or Tamarow. We cut back to Cameron, who is
Speaker 1: schooling her dad in tennis. Keep in mind what this
Speaker 1: dad's tennis shirt looks like, because for some reason, he
Speaker 1: wears it for most of the movie. She's having a
Speaker 1: big lavish party tonight, but she's also having a life crisis.
Speaker 1: She keeps thinking that something special is supposed to happen now,
Speaker 1: and she's on her twenty first birthday. This day means
Speaker 1: something to her. She doesn't know what, and suddenly she
Speaker 1: blurts out, I'll get it, and then the phone rings.
Speaker 1: Strange power which was also inhabited by another very famous
Speaker 1: television character called Radar O'Reilly from Mash. At the same time,
Speaker 1: Alex and her roommate are talking about her job search.
Speaker 1: She wants to move out get her own place, but
Speaker 1: she's also welcome to stay there as long as she wants.
Speaker 1: Establishing that she's got good friends and a support system
Speaker 1: around her, they get on the bus and she admits,
Speaker 1: ever since she woke up, she feels like something horrible
Speaker 1: is going to happen today, so again the balance to
Speaker 1: her sister. We then notice a man in front seat
Speaker 1: and he's very interested in her. It is the robed
Speaker 1: man from earlier. Alex tells her Rumy to say hi
Speaker 1: to her mom for her, and then her phone rings,
Speaker 1: so she also has the strange I can tell when
Speaker 1: a phone is going to ring superpower that Radar head
Speaker 1: from Mash very strange. Okay, Now, I don't know about you,
Speaker 1: but this seems like an absolutely useless magic power. But
Speaker 1: I'm hoping what it's actually stating is not just phone calls.
Speaker 1: It's just, uh, you have an inkling of premonition of
Speaker 1: what's going to happen. Yes, could be a very important
Speaker 1: kind of I would have shown it different ways. I
Speaker 1: didn't write this thing, but that's just the way that
Speaker 1: it is. They did it with phone calls. Okay. The
Speaker 1: robed man, however, is still very impressed. Would you be impressed,
Speaker 1: like if your husband every time was like, hey, say
Speaker 1: hi to somebody and then your phone rings, I mean eventually,
Speaker 1: wouldn't you just think it was creepy? Or would would
Speaker 1: like the best?
Speaker 2: I think it was really crazy, right, I would think
Speaker 2: how did you get that? He somehow connected my phone
Speaker 2: to like his apple water?
Speaker 1: Right? Yes, how are you doing that? Right? By the way, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know exactly where you are. That's not magic powers,
Speaker 1: that's just air taggings. Yeah, it's just Then Cameron and
Speaker 1: her friend pull up alongside the bus in an expensive convertible.
Speaker 1: Cameron feels like something great is gonna happen today, and
Speaker 1: Alex just misses seeing her Cameron and her power now
Speaker 1: walking down the street, and Cameron thinks she just needs
Speaker 1: to be super aware of her surroundings, and then the
Speaker 1: bus pulls up and Alex walks out. Cameron again doesn't
Speaker 1: notice her, but does notice a big sale across the
Speaker 1: street at her favorite store. They giddaly run over and
Speaker 1: take advantage while Alex is you know, we still notice
Speaker 1: as being followed by this creepy guy Outside the store.
Speaker 1: An over zealous woman who was the robed female from earlier,
Speaker 1: is so excited to see Cameron, who just predicted her
Speaker 1: friend wanted to go look at shoes nearby. Again anothery're
Speaker 1: not great skill though not showing the skill great, but
Speaker 1: they're showing that they have this presence of forethought exactly,
Speaker 1: this intuition that, of course, as young girls will be
Speaker 1: used for phones and shopping and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh right, Yeahdy looks at her and says, you are
Speaker 1: so ready, then wishes her good luck and runs off
Speaker 1: to join the man, and they reveal they've been following
Speaker 1: the twins for years. This is destiny. The man all
Speaker 1: of a sudden makes a help wanted sign up here
Speaker 1: in the clothing store. Nope, she walks right by. Alex
Speaker 1: walks right by that. Then a no experience sign necessary
Speaker 1: pops up when she ignores the first one. She's still
Speaker 1: walking by, and he gets desperate and he just shoots
Speaker 1: out a we're desperate sign, which finally gets the job.
Speaker 1: Hungry and stubborn Alex to enter. She walks in and
Speaker 1: tells the manager she saw the sign, and employee hands
Speaker 1: her the dress she was looking for, obviously confusing her
Speaker 1: for the twins she doesn't know exists. She's like, what,
Speaker 1: but she wants to apply for the job, and Cameron
Speaker 1: pulls the dress from her hands. Her sister walks behind her,
Speaker 1: grabs and goes thanks, but still doesn't see her twins face. Ooh,
Speaker 1: we are kind of pushing the envelope here, but here
Speaker 1: we go. Alex then tells the manager she really needs
Speaker 1: the job, but it doesn't get her anywhere, and the
Speaker 1: woman's like, nope, honesty is great everywhere in the world
Speaker 1: except for retail, which is weird. So she lies and
Speaker 1: compliments the shoes, and it was so convincing that she's
Speaker 1: hired on the spot. And this is obviously because the
Speaker 1: manager realizes she can lie convincingly. But then Alex does
Speaker 1: like her shoes, so she hired her because she just
Speaker 1: said one nice thing, which is odd. She also hires
Speaker 1: her with no paperwork whatsoever, just puts her to work,
Speaker 1: so we don't even know if she's on the payroll
Speaker 1: or What's very strange. Alex starts working, eventually literally bumping
Speaker 1: into her twin. As they see each other, they scream
Speaker 1: at the top of their lungs. Cameron knew it something
Speaker 1: great was gonna happen today. They wonder if they're twins
Speaker 1: or sisters or they just look like each other, but
Speaker 1: they realize they're both adopted and it is their birthday.
Speaker 1: Alex runs out, but Cameron catches up with her and
Speaker 1: grabs her hand, forcing the world to enter a slow
Speaker 1: motion realm and the close of the store of the
Speaker 1: mannequin fall off, once again showing more completely useless magic.
Speaker 1: I don't stopping time, okay, she jawsome superpower. I can
Speaker 1: slow time down by just grabbing somebody's hand, sweet ripping
Speaker 1: the clothes off of people seems really like a scummy
Speaker 1: kind of power.
Speaker 2: Yea, what could you really do that? What can you
Speaker 2: do with it?
Speaker 1: How do you use that for good?
Speaker 2: Yeaw? How are you gonna save the world by doing
Speaker 2: something like that?
Speaker 1: Again? Slowing down time? That would be slowing down or
Speaker 1: stopping time would be on my list of top three
Speaker 1: superpowers of all time. That would be one of the
Speaker 1: coolest things ever. But okay, an, yeah, we are now
Speaker 1: transported to Coventry and a mansion. A woman who looks
Speaker 1: a lot like the twins, and she does, is wearing
Speaker 1: a similar but your favorite, much bigger necklace. Sense it's
Speaker 1: it's a big chest plate. She's wearing a chest plate.
Speaker 1: She's wearing a piece of armor and the twins. It's true,
Speaker 1: but again, she looks just like the twins. She's wearing
Speaker 1: the big necklace. She senses something and runs off to
Speaker 1: tell Mentos the fresh Maker. She eventually makes it to Mentos.
Speaker 1: I won't say that to Thantos, who was doing some
Speaker 1: sort of pendulum over the water, completely confusing us as
Speaker 1: to what happens in Coventry.
Speaker 2: What is this?
Speaker 1: The second he looked up, I went, that's the bad guy.
Speaker 1: It's like, not even slightly hidden. You just get an
Speaker 1: instant that's the bad guy, feels there was no and
Speaker 1: then and then I tried to convince myself it wasn't him.
Speaker 1: I was like, you can't.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no.
Speaker 1: I was hoping it was gonna be the mom was
Speaker 1: gonna be a twist, Yes, no.
Speaker 3: I kept thinking, oh maybe maybe, but no. Now, Honestly,
Speaker 3: after Halloween Town and how obvious that was, I was like, Okay.
Speaker 2: So in these Halloween type movies, we just are gonna
Speaker 2: know who the bad guy is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he should have been just wearing a shirt that
Speaker 1: just says bad guy. It's yeah, So we don't know
Speaker 1: what's happening. But the woman is so happy because she
Speaker 1: realizes that Apaula and Artemis are alive and they are
Speaker 1: together again. She knows it. He doesn't believe her, but
Speaker 1: she felt it in her soul and her necklace is shining.
Speaker 1: So Fantos knows that if it's true, then they need
Speaker 1: to protect them. They are definitely in danger from him.
Speaker 1: He says, she can't go to their dimension and it
Speaker 1: would be too devastating to lose her. He'll go and
Speaker 1: bring them home, leading me to my first why the
Speaker 1: hell weren't you looking for them in the first place.
Speaker 1: If you can buy this dimension whenever you want to, ye,
Speaker 1: and the darkness isn't keeping you there in prison, why
Speaker 1: don't you just leave this dimension then and go and
Speaker 1: find your daughters to bring them back. Yeah, the holes
Speaker 1: are appearing, yes.
Speaker 2: And the only thing I kind of rewound it going.
Speaker 2: Did they explain that this can.
Speaker 3: Now the dimensions could be crossed because they're twenty one,
Speaker 3: or did they just honestly think they were dead?
Speaker 1: Nope?
Speaker 3: You know, it was very strange. Nothing was explained, so
Speaker 3: I just had to keep moving.
Speaker 1: But I explained so having no idea what is now
Speaker 1: going on. We are back at the clothing store. Alex
Speaker 1: is fired and Cameron is accused of trying to steal
Speaker 1: the dress, but that doesn't matter because Cameron is still
Speaker 1: so excited by the prospect of having a sister. Alex, well,
Speaker 1: not so much. She felt like something bad was going
Speaker 1: to happen today. Camera decides to tag along with Alex
Speaker 1: Debond and as they turned the corner, Alex is like, wait,
Speaker 1: is that your car? And is it? Pressed by her Porsche,
Speaker 1: but also reveals that her adopted mom died three days ago.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm not trying to laugh, but it's like,
Speaker 1: this is my Porsche. I'm having the best thing in
Speaker 1: the world. How are you doing? Oh wait, I just
Speaker 1: got you fired and your mom's dead. Yes, yikes, Sorry.
Speaker 2: I get it. They're trying to keep doing this. Yep,
Speaker 2: opposites opposite a tract opposites.
Speaker 1: There, sun and moon dark, the ying yang of it.
Speaker 1: I get it, but yeah, but Cameron grabs her hand
Speaker 1: and support, which is very sweet. But then the cargoes nuts,
Speaker 1: the alarms blare, all the lights flicker, the windsheld wipers
Speaker 1: go to work. The magical powers are now awesome. No
Speaker 1: weight again, how would you ever use that to do anything?
Speaker 1: So Cameron thinks that again, these magical powers are cool,
Speaker 1: but they're I'm sorry, it says low budget witches, my breakdown.
Speaker 1: That's true. At this point, you got up. Maybe maybe
Speaker 1: this is just the start, and we hope they can
Speaker 1: do something because so far, unless the monster they're trying
Speaker 1: to fight it is a two thousand and four Porsche
Speaker 1: UH convertible, a Porsche boxter, or a mannequin that instantly
Speaker 1: needs to be stripped, then all of Coventry is yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's true. The girls now drive to Cameron's mansion,
Speaker 1: which is decked out for Halloween, and they are greeted
Speaker 1: by a maid who doesn't even blink an eye. That
Speaker 1: there's now a second girl.
Speaker 3: Where there were so many weird little moments in this
Speaker 3: movie like this, like are you kidding me? They make
Speaker 3: it out to be that she's been a maid or
Speaker 3: someone of the house for years. Obviously you know that
Speaker 3: whole trope of you know, this has been somebody who's
Speaker 3: watched you grow up. And now you see that there
Speaker 3: are two of these things.
Speaker 1: And not even bad. Part of me loves the comedy.
Speaker 1: Part of me loves it where it's like, great, now
Speaker 1: there's two of you. But part of me is like
Speaker 1: maybe a double.
Speaker 3: Take a little bit, I mean even to John's shocked, yes,
Speaker 3: shocked about it, and then uh, and then a realization
Speaker 3: of now you're going to make the house doubly, you know, disastrous. Okay, fine,
Speaker 3: but just something It moves so fast.
Speaker 2: It was like okay.
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Speaker 1: So the one thing there was a very big funny
Speaker 1: runner where Alex kept saying like, this is your house,
Speaker 1: this is the inside of your house, this is your room,
Speaker 1: and she's like, all right, please stop. So they get
Speaker 1: into Cameron's room, which of course is sprawling, and realize
Speaker 1: they can do magic on their own. So she opens
Speaker 1: the drawer Cameron just by herself, but it's stronger, even
Speaker 1: dangerous when they do it together. This is when they
Speaker 1: go over and Alex sees some of Cameron's drawings, which
Speaker 1: are very impressive. They obviously show Coventry and some people.
Speaker 1: She sees what looked like the self portrait, but it
Speaker 1: turned out to be a picture of her with her
Speaker 1: necklace on. She sees all this stuff, so while we
Speaker 1: see Coventry, we see the darkness, we see the necklace.
Speaker 1: They don't know what it is. We know they're obviously
Speaker 1: seeing Coventry and picture of country, they yet don't know
Speaker 1: what it is. Cameron then admits that she has visions,
Speaker 1: including another woman who wreck everyone can see as the
Speaker 1: lady from Coventry, and they're very excited that they're alive.
Speaker 1: She's got the visions. She's like, oh yeah, this woman
Speaker 1: is happy we're alive. That's kind of weird. They both
Speaker 1: feel like they know her. Cameron asks Alex to check
Speaker 1: her second closet for something. She's like, give a second one,
Speaker 1: and then she opens up. They're magically in Coventry, like
Speaker 1: the Lion, the witch and the wardrobe. The magic is
Speaker 1: in the closet. Cameron joins her, and they're very very confused.
Speaker 1: That's when a voice comes out from everything. Okay, so
Speaker 1: a booming voice comes out and says Cameron tells them
Speaker 1: that they've been there before in her dreams. It's the
Speaker 1: robed lady. She hugs a frozen Cameron, this is again
Speaker 1: echoing voices. Okay, echoing voices. The voices are coming in.
Speaker 1: Then the man appears for Alex. They are Karsh and Ilana,
Speaker 1: their father Aaron's humble servants. They break the news that
Speaker 1: their father died the day they were born, and he
Speaker 1: asks them to watch over the girls for some reason.
Speaker 1: At this point, after the booming voices everywhere, they insist
Speaker 1: the girl's whisper.
Speaker 2: They yes, be quiet.
Speaker 1: Every time their voice is slightly raised. They're like and
Speaker 1: yet at first they're like, you're in Coventry. I didn't
Speaker 1: Were they only hearing that in their head? I didn't
Speaker 1: understand why they suddenly needed to be quiet.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think it was that that idea of that they're
Speaker 3: hearing it in the head. But how would they both
Speaker 3: hear it? You know?
Speaker 1: I just was the same magic used to strip mannequins. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it was this is I was starting. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: now they have to be quiet for some reason.
Speaker 2: Even though you were just yelling.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So they break the news that their father died
Speaker 1: the day they were born, and he asked to watch
Speaker 1: over the girls. The servants say their mother is very
Speaker 1: much alive and now at twenty one. The fate of
Speaker 1: Coventry is in their hands. There's a lot to deal with,
Speaker 1: so Alex runs off. She has a gift. This is
Speaker 1: where we learn really what their gifts are, and she
Speaker 1: knows how this story ends, so she returns through the
Speaker 1: closet door and into Cameron's room, followed by Cameron, now alone.
Speaker 1: Carsion Eliana reveal the girls are marked for death, and
Speaker 1: we see the door to Coventry disappear back I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my own sound effects. Back in Cameron's room,
Speaker 1: the girls argue over the responsibility in Coventry and realize
Speaker 1: quickly that the portal is now closed. Alex is disturbed
Speaker 1: by everything, especially because in the stories that she wrote,
Speaker 1: because she was writing about this her whole life, her
Speaker 1: dad was killed protecting them. Cameron can't believe she's making
Speaker 1: being magical power Twins into a bad thing. What a
Speaker 1: buzzkill brand new sister I just met today. Yeah, downstairs.
Speaker 1: Now we're downstairs in the giant mansion. The house staff
Speaker 1: is getting Cameron's big birthday bash ready, but the darkness
Speaker 1: is already creeping into the house upstairs. Alex wants to leave,
Speaker 1: but she eventually agrees whatever this is, they're in this together.
Speaker 1: And just like that, the maid stumbles upon the plant
Speaker 1: on fire. The darkness is growled and creeping through the
Speaker 1: house just as the girls leave in the porsches. So
Speaker 1: the darkness can leave Coventry Coventry and come into our
Speaker 1: world for a limited amount of time to light certain
Speaker 1: things on fire.
Speaker 2: But not the whole house.
Speaker 1: But not the whole house. It also can't track the
Speaker 1: girls if they just walk out of the room. Uh okay,
Speaker 1: And which I didn't I didn't understand. I don't get
Speaker 1: the rules of the darkness.
Speaker 2: The darkness. Yes, plus it looked awful the dark again.
Speaker 1: The darkness didn't look great yet, No, a great it
Speaker 1: was now. Would you think it doesn't look great for
Speaker 1: now or even for two thousand and five? It wouldn't.
Speaker 2: I you know, I wanted to keep thinking, you know,
Speaker 2: it's pre.
Speaker 3: It just again, it doesn't look great for it to
Speaker 3: be such a big part of the movie. Yes, not
Speaker 3: look great. It's tough because it's not like we see
Speaker 3: it quick. It's not like the quick.
Speaker 1: Dragon at the end of Descendants, like it comes in
Speaker 1: the dragons. Are you're right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: It is throughout the whole movie, So it just was
Speaker 3: kind of and again, where can it go?
Speaker 2: Why what is it trying to do?
Speaker 1: Why can it seep through ceilings but it can't go
Speaker 1: through doors?
Speaker 2: Doors?
Speaker 3: Yes, how can it get into the house of originally
Speaker 3: because no one opened a door for it?
Speaker 1: And do exactly what you said, why not put it
Speaker 1: where the second they touch? Then I think what they're
Speaker 1: going for is the second they touch, they're now marked.
Speaker 1: But they don't ever explain that, right, No, so it
Speaker 1: didn't make any sense. But the nonsensical Darkness monster also
Speaker 1: creeps through the house as we were saying, and lights
Speaker 1: all the pictures of Coventry on fire in Cameron's room. Right,
Speaker 1: We're now back at Coventry where the darkness is just
Speaker 1: circling the castle, but for some reason can't come into
Speaker 1: the ca which again I guess is because the girls
Speaker 1: fought it off as a kid, but only stopped it
Speaker 1: from coming into the castle.
Speaker 2: It just can it is.
Speaker 1: It's weird, but it's in the castle.
Speaker 2: Do you never know why it stops? Like I'm right.
Speaker 3: At one point, I'm like, okay, so is it stopping
Speaker 3: because it's wanting to stop.
Speaker 1: Or not? Yes, I don't get it.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I agree, I don't.
Speaker 3: This one was real tough to kind of just you know,
Speaker 3: it wasn't getting over one thing. And like I said,
Speaker 3: with this darkness, it's such a huge part of the storyline.
Speaker 2: Yes, that you have to understand.
Speaker 1: What are the rules of what are the rules? Thank
Speaker 1: you give us the rules of the Darkness. I need
Speaker 1: I need some kind of rule for the darkness because
Speaker 1: it's I don't Yeah, I don't understand it. It was okay. Anyway,
Speaker 1: we're back at Coventry and the woman that we had
Speaker 1: met before says she's not just gonna sit around. She's
Speaker 1: going to go find them herself. Fanta is not happy
Speaker 1: with this because again, he's just a packet of mints.
Speaker 1: This will leave her people defenseless against the Darkness. Okay,
Speaker 1: so apparently the Darkness can't do anything because of her,
Speaker 1: I guess, but they don't really explain that either. She
Speaker 1: reveals she is their mother and she knows they need her.
Speaker 1: But this is the first time they're saying it, and
Speaker 1: I think they wanted it as like a moment. But
Speaker 1: we all we knew that right definitely, this was not
Speaker 1: a thing that was as shocking as it was that
Speaker 1: the bad guy was the bad guy. Yeah, Fantos convinces
Speaker 1: her again to stay and trust him. This is just
Speaker 1: obviously he might as well be twirling a mustache, going
Speaker 1: trust me, I will take care of the children. But
Speaker 1: he here. At this point, he throws out the theory that
Speaker 1: the girls are actually evil and teamed up with the
Speaker 1: darkness themselves. He then reveals that he's actually the brother
Speaker 1: of the girl's father and guesses that the servants have
Speaker 1: been protecting the twins. Tantos says he would love these
Speaker 1: girls like they were his own and they could save Coventry.
Speaker 1: So the mom tells him to find them. But man,
Speaker 1: oh man, does the bad guy give off bad vibes.
Speaker 1: We're now back on Earth. Cameron goes to Alex's humble
Speaker 1: house look at her childhood insomnia stories and this is
Speaker 1: the funny thing where she walks in, She's like, this
Speaker 1: is your bathroom. That said she's doing the opposite of
Speaker 1: which she's like, you're right, it is annoying. Please stop
Speaker 1: funny run. Cameron's mom calls her flip phone. I miss
Speaker 1: flip phones. I'd like them back, but Alex convinces her
Speaker 1: to keep the whole thing quiet, even from her own family.
Speaker 1: They figure out their names were Apaulla and Artemis, The
Speaker 1: Danger of the Darkness, how they were abandoned, who their
Speaker 1: mom is, and that she married her uncle, all from
Speaker 1: these childhood writings. This is important backstory, Alex says in
Speaker 1: her fantasy, she was always the one who rescued their mom.
Speaker 1: The girls then figure that out and they're like, okay,
Speaker 1: let's go eat. So they go stop for lunch at
Speaker 1: Alex's Roomy's restaurant. This is Lucinda, and Lucinda is a
Speaker 1: little creeped out by this new revelation that she's the
Speaker 1: only one who seems to be like, hey, you've now
Speaker 1: got an identical twin sister you've known for three hours.
Speaker 1: Who's your bestie? Maybe let's slow this down a little bit,
Speaker 1: or this is weird? Or my am I the only
Speaker 1: one pointing out how strange this is? Yeah, anyway. She
Speaker 1: also seems that maybe she might be just a little
Speaker 1: jealous of the new twins relationship. But before the food arrives,
Speaker 1: they decide to try out some spells from Alex's writing.
Speaker 1: She was just making up funny spells as a kid,
Speaker 1: they make a glass of iced tea shatter a soda,
Speaker 1: attacks a jerk who's talking loudly in new a cell phone,
Speaker 1: and again, these all seem like uncool, weird superpowers that
Speaker 1: they're just throwing around, like Okay, I don't want to
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get the nerd out of me, but
Speaker 1: I can't. I can keep going to the magical cut.
Speaker 3: Well, at least they're able to now move things versus.
Speaker 1: Just kind of they're doing some stuff.
Speaker 3: You know, like compared to the car and in the
Speaker 3: retail store.
Speaker 2: At least they're they're looking at focusingning and honing their skills.
Speaker 1: Of Okay, all right, now, let's you find out tomorrow
Speaker 1: you have magical powers and you're a witch. What's the
Speaker 1: first thing you do?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, man, I don't know. I think i'd
Speaker 3: go back in time.
Speaker 1: You want to change travel?
Speaker 2: I know, I just want to relive it.
Speaker 3: I mean I would do I would you know the
Speaker 3: Macy's prayed again.
Speaker 2: I'd love to do.
Speaker 1: Again. You're talking about like I'm going to go back
Speaker 1: and you know, meet Christopher. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back.
Speaker 2: To the I want to make sure you have a
Speaker 2: good time. I know where exactly to go. Okay, what
Speaker 2: Christopher Columbus was really doing that could be some shocking stuff.
Speaker 1: Wow, I love that. No, it's it was shocking anyway.
Speaker 1: The girls in Unison say go Twitches, Go Twitches, and
Speaker 1: a tune that was allegedly improved by Tea and Tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We see the servants were watching nearby. As we go
Speaker 1: into a montage with the go gos, we got the
Speaker 1: beat playing a very rare instance of a dcom using
Speaker 1: actual licensed music. The girls now are trying out their
Speaker 1: powers different way. They're trying out their their powers as
Speaker 1: the servants to continue to protect them, they turn some
Speaker 1: cat calling construction workers into beauty pageing contestants. They grow
Speaker 1: apples on trees, so it is at least a montage
Speaker 1: of them trying to learn to use their powers. You
Speaker 1: one hundred percent right.
Speaker 2: I didn't like what they were doing exactly what their
Speaker 2: power is?
Speaker 1: Yes, important, you know, learning our powers montage. So at
Speaker 1: least they put that in, which is good. But the
Speaker 1: darkness is growing stronger as the girls get to know
Speaker 1: their powers and each other. But back at Alex's, Cameron
Speaker 1: says that she quote pities the poor Gooli ghoulie that
Speaker 1: tries to take them out, and right on cue, the
Speaker 1: darkness appears and tries to attack. The girls run around
Speaker 1: the house, eventually touching. When Cameron is grabbed by the darkness,
Speaker 1: their connection pushes it away for a second, but he's
Speaker 1: blowing up all the lights and is right on their tail.
Speaker 1: They hide in a closet and suddenly realize they're back
Speaker 1: in Coventry and are joined by their servants. Now Cameron
Speaker 1: is furious. This should be fun, not life threatening. The
Speaker 1: good news is they open the door to Coventry themselves
Speaker 1: because they trusted themselves, trusted in their power, and this
Speaker 1: is the power they need when confronting the darkness. They
Speaker 1: beat it once as babies, they can do it again.
Speaker 1: Very Harry Potter esqu here. Cameron has had enough though.
Speaker 1: This is her birthday. She has a party tonight, and
Speaker 1: while she was gung ho at the beginning, this is
Speaker 1: now getting way too real. So she's going home now.
Speaker 1: Alex is the one who chases her down and tells
Speaker 1: her that they need to stay, They need to be sisters,
Speaker 1: they need to meet their mom. Cameron says, nothing bad
Speaker 1: has ever happened, at her home, and Alex admits this
Speaker 1: isn't even the worst thing that has ever happened to her.
Speaker 1: Their differences are very obvious. Now everything is flipped. The
Speaker 1: servants say that darkness has left the earth and opens
Speaker 1: the door for Cameron, who walks right through it, jumps
Speaker 1: in her car and speeds off, leaving Alex at her
Speaker 1: house to be poor. Back at Cam's mansion, her party
Speaker 1: is about to start, but the guilt is getting to
Speaker 1: her and we hear a dramatic song. The Halloween theme
Speaker 1: party is in full swing and even the servants are
Speaker 1: eating the cupcakes. Cameron is dressed as a masquerade princess
Speaker 1: and everyone wants to meet her twin because she told
Speaker 1: her bestie I have a twin that she met her
Speaker 1: and she's like, please, don't tell anybody about it, but
Speaker 1: of course she told everybody and to get over all
Speaker 1: of her sadness, they grab her and say she needs
Speaker 1: to dance and flirt with Zorro.
Speaker 2: So random this is? That was another random thing?
Speaker 1: What just that you need to dance with somebody? Or
Speaker 1: that was Zorro?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well no, you know, Zoro is such a like
Speaker 3: a costume thing. That doesn't that didn't shock me. Neither
Speaker 3: did the cheetah one suit that her friend had.
Speaker 1: Sure you know that?
Speaker 3: Okay, It was more so just like, oh, you mean
Speaker 3: the way she told, oh, you need to dance?
Speaker 2: So hey, I'm like, why are you being weird? Are
Speaker 2: you asking her to dance with you? Or are you
Speaker 2: wanting her to dance with it? Was weird.
Speaker 3: She ends up dancing with the guy later. Yeah, friend
Speaker 3: was not my favorite friend friend I've ever had.
Speaker 2: Wasn't a great friend? Nude, she was not.
Speaker 1: But we are now back at Alex's. She's with her
Speaker 1: roommate's family and she's just so sad. She thought she
Speaker 1: could trust her twin, but she can only trust herself,
Speaker 1: which makes her needy roommate very mad, and rightfully so,
Speaker 1: because it seems like she put a roof of her
Speaker 1: head and friendship and food and everything else.
Speaker 2: She's being.
Speaker 3: Alex is being a jerk. She Alex, you need to
Speaker 3: cool down, you know you do? You have to do
Speaker 3: sat front in that mouth.
Speaker 1: Exactly, and Alex again was played by either Tia or Tamara.
Speaker 1: Alex is gonna save the day and meet her mother,
Speaker 1: and she's gonna do it alone. She just needs to
Speaker 1: believe in herself and her power. So she opens the
Speaker 1: bathroom door and boom, she is in Coventry outside the
Speaker 1: castle and her mom is right there. They have a
Speaker 1: very emotional and tearful reunion. And did you notice how
Speaker 1: massive Tia or Tamara's tears were. I mean it looked
Speaker 1: I mean there were it looked like she was hosed down.
Speaker 3: This okay, this is the second like emotional little moment
Speaker 3: that we had.
Speaker 2: And they were.
Speaker 3: Both kind of over the top a little bit, not
Speaker 3: saying meeting your mom for the but it was just
Speaker 3: a long scene right along and when they got emotional
Speaker 3: a little about earlier on about being this is part
Speaker 3: of my spirits about sisters and stuff. It was like
Speaker 3: they were really fighting to have this like big emotional
Speaker 3: moment and I don't necessarily think it really needed it.
Speaker 1: Right if you watch Dancing with the Stars, I can
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Speaker 1: I don't think that we had great dancing chemistry.
Speaker 4: Then you need to be listening to sex lies and
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Speaker 3: He was so intense that me really nervous with Ceryl.
Speaker 7: But editor didn't wear a lot of clothes.
Speaker 1: No, he was, she did. She did keep her ankles warm.
Speaker 4: Get the behind the scenes of what goes down on
Speaker 4: and off the dance floor.
Speaker 5: Dancing with the Stars breeds body image issues for women.
Speaker 1: The thinner you are, the more attention you end up
Speaker 1: getting on that show.
Speaker 3: Injuries my phone wings, Hey Christian, Hey, yeah, I saw
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Speaker 1: Fleeing honestly got to Clara, I'm I'm just trying to survive.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to like make it out out of
Speaker 1: this season. Ego, she wanted to kill me.
Speaker 4: It was real bad insecurity on the show.
Speaker 9: It was like everyone was talking about my weight and
Speaker 9: it really affected my confidence so much for years.
Speaker 1: To come and betrayals.
Speaker 10: Because of that one betrayal, I knew this is probably
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Speaker 1: Did you find it weird that the first time she
Speaker 1: meets her mom it's not the two of them together.
Speaker 2: Yes, it did. It was it was strange.
Speaker 1: It was a strange story point to where it's like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to go meet her by myself, and I
Speaker 1: get what they're doing. I get what they're saying. Where
Speaker 1: it's and again I think Tia is the one that
Speaker 1: plays Alex. We're just joking, but I think what they're
Speaker 1: saying is that because Cameron's life on Earth is so good,
Speaker 1: she is never going to leave. She doesn't want to
Speaker 1: leave that life, a ruin that life, whereas Alex's life
Speaker 1: on Earth is so bad that she will go to
Speaker 1: Coventry and fight and meet her mom. I get what
Speaker 1: they're doing, yeah, but it seemed like I like the
Speaker 1: idea of her going to Coventry by herself, but it
Speaker 1: was like I felt like the first time they met
Speaker 1: their mom, they should have met their mom as a unit.
Speaker 2: Seemed like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but anyway, I got what they were doing. But
Speaker 1: we're now back at home. Alex's roommate is trying to
Speaker 1: apologize to Alex for getting mad. She realizes that she's
Speaker 1: not there. She doesn't know where she is. She assumes
Speaker 1: that she just went off to the party maybe or
Speaker 1: whatever's happening, and the party is in a place called Waverly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now this is this is straight up from Wizards of
Speaker 1: Waverley Place. Right, they're trying to do witches and wizards
Speaker 1: and right.
Speaker 3: I mean I recognize it as wait, wait for rely,
Speaker 3: but I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I didn't know if there was any real cross over
Speaker 3: because I don't remember what you're I think so, but
Speaker 3: I don't remember what you're it like, was it a
Speaker 3: crossover or was it like, oh they loved that name
Speaker 3: Waverley it was.
Speaker 1: I think it was from Magical Yeah, I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know where it came from. Twitches was before
Speaker 1: Wizards of Waverley.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they might have wanted to see so this
Speaker 3: was at the time. No, because I I thought Waverly
Speaker 3: was Wizards of Waverley Place was younger than this movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very strange. But anyway, Yeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: I love that you caught onto that. I we're going
Speaker 2: to be watching that one.
Speaker 1: I know another one where I watched the movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Alex is getting to know her biological mom and
Speaker 1: telling her about Cameron and her deceased adoptive mom. And
Speaker 1: this is when I did some googling and I realized
Speaker 1: that the actress who plays their mom, Kristin Wilson, is
Speaker 1: only nine years older than the more.
Speaker 2: I am absolutely talking about this since Free to Sease.
Speaker 1: Okay, absolutely nine years older, and I get in royal families,
Speaker 1: kids are married. I'm in the middle of a great
Speaker 1: Alison Weird book right now, where there's these the royal
Speaker 1: princesses are being married off at nine, ten, eleven years old,
Speaker 1: but they're not having kids until they're at least the
Speaker 1: ripe old age of thirteen.
Speaker 2: Although the cast scene was stunning and I felt like
Speaker 2: everyone in this movie was so pretty.
Speaker 1: Beautiful and well, they gave you that real princess vibe.
Speaker 3: They are They're instantly from the very beginning went wait,
Speaker 3: that doesn't.
Speaker 2: Look who are they.
Speaker 1: Oh they'res older.
Speaker 2: Oh they're their parents. Yeah, so I'm gonna get to
Speaker 2: that for sure, and so okay good.
Speaker 1: Alex and her mom are have decided they're ready to
Speaker 1: defeat anything together because Cameron is apparently not gonna help.
Speaker 1: Even though the darkness is getting stronger, everyone is counting
Speaker 1: on a very nervous Alex to help save the day.
Speaker 1: But back at the party, Cameron is blowing out her
Speaker 1: birthday cake candles. And you want to know a little secret,
Speaker 1: that's actually Tiamori playing her sister's character. She stepped in
Speaker 1: for a reshoot when he had a scheduling conflict with
Speaker 1: a Lifetime show. She was sure, so they changed her
Speaker 1: hair and they added a mole.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, wow, wild that is the.
Speaker 2: Coolest thing about having a twin.
Speaker 11: You.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just feel like if.
Speaker 3: I had an identical twin, I would have tried everything
Speaker 3: school like switching school schedules, and I feel like I
Speaker 3: would have tried to see it boyfriends.
Speaker 2: No, that's weird.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm asking is it. Would that be too much?
Speaker 1: Like we're gonna switch and see if they noticed?
Speaker 2: The boyfriends would be stoked about if not, the question
Speaker 2: would they notice?
Speaker 3: But you can still what if what if they went
Speaker 3: into kiss and now now you've made it super complicated
Speaker 3: and your family's gonna blow up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, very strange. But my god, you change
Speaker 1: your hair and added a mole.
Speaker 2: Brilli, that's so crazy.
Speaker 1: Okay, Wow, know the party is what the kids today
Speaker 1: would call lit. Something is bothering, Kim, Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: I've got theriz. People bothering Cameron, who has a heart
Speaker 1: to heart with her mom. Cameron tells her all about
Speaker 1: the other dimension and the twin and the mediocre magical
Speaker 1: powers that she now has. Her mom thinks it's just
Speaker 1: more stories like the one she's been telling since her childhood.
Speaker 1: She even drew something called the Darkness with a face
Speaker 1: peeking out of it, and they're like, She's like, wait,
Speaker 1: but I told these stories as a kid. She's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: and wait, there's a face peeking out of it. She says, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the drawing might even be upstairs a face.
Speaker 1: She can find out who the Darkness is, even though
Speaker 1: from the second he was on camera everyone else knew
Speaker 1: who the Darkness was. Cameron runs upstairs to find it
Speaker 1: and it is Mentos, the fresh maker in the drawing,
Speaker 1: Santos is the Darkness, which obviously we've talked about it
Speaker 1: as completely in totally obvious. But back at the castle,
Speaker 1: Alex meets Santos, who is technically her uncle and her
Speaker 1: mom's new husband. He announces that the Darkness has taken
Speaker 1: over the castle's north gate. He's worried to hear that
Speaker 1: Cameron didn't make it without both twins. They will be
Speaker 1: defeated by the Darkness. But we know he's the Darkness.
Speaker 1: He's such a d bag. Alex's mom takes off of
Speaker 1: the north gate, leaving her daughter with smoke monster evil
Speaker 1: guy who excuses himself he'll be right back again if
Speaker 1: she can fight him off from the gate. Why isn't
Speaker 1: I surrounding the castle? Why can he then leave as
Speaker 1: the darkness.
Speaker 2: And come back?
Speaker 1: But the Darkness stays there around in the entire thing,
Speaker 1: but he can make part of the darkness. It's just
Speaker 1: not explained. It's just not explained well at all. We
Speaker 1: are back at the party. Alex's roommate is there now.
Speaker 1: I mean, this girl really has some serious fomo. She
Speaker 1: couldn't even skip a party for a girl she doesn't
Speaker 1: know when her friend disappeared into a different dimension. Then
Speaker 1: another uninvited guest, the Darkness, who definitely did not have
Speaker 1: an invite, arrives at the kitchen again in full rage
Speaker 1: mode and kills their maid again comes in through the ceiling.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's coming through event.
Speaker 2: Well, why is their maid still there?
Speaker 3: And why didn't anyone care about this flaming fire?
Speaker 2: He is the maid saw it was in shock and awe,
Speaker 2: and then just kept working.
Speaker 1: And why if he's there, does the darkness not just
Speaker 1: attack her outside? Is he caring about not being seen
Speaker 1: at this point? Yeah, darkness from the other dimension. I
Speaker 1: don't understand it. Cameron and Alex's roomy meet just before
Speaker 1: the party goes hey wire with a ton of explosions.
Speaker 1: Everyone thinks it was an impressive firework show, which is
Speaker 1: one problem with being rich. People think a smoke monster
Speaker 1: in your house is a firework show. By the way, finally,
Speaker 1: the dad has changed out of the blue tennis outfit
Speaker 1: because two scenes before where he saw way later in
Speaker 1: the day, he's still wearing the same sweaty, sleeveless tennis
Speaker 1: shirt that he had on, so thankfully that is now gone.
Speaker 3: There were two costume changes in this in this whole
Speaker 3: movie for every actor except the twins, except.
Speaker 2: For the mom. The mom didn't even change at all.
Speaker 1: No, you're right, mom didn't change. The servants tell Cameron
Speaker 1: to get to Coventry immediately. It's the only place you
Speaker 1: may be saved. But the darkness has blocked one door,
Speaker 1: so they rush upstairs to get another as Karsh distracts it.
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing. So Carsha and Iliana turns out
Speaker 1: there in a relationship. They kiss.
Speaker 2: He says it's a random another another random.
Speaker 1: Thing, and he says, go upstairs, I'll buy you some time,
Speaker 1: and proceeds to buy them time by doing literally nothing,
Speaker 1: nothing nothing. He doesn't throw a spell, he doesn't give
Speaker 1: it the finger, he doesn't call it harsh language. He's
Speaker 1: no he but he does he can make signs appear,
Speaker 1: he was throwing stuff around. He literally does nothing. He
Speaker 1: just gets eaten. Go ahead, you go, I'll do nothing,
Speaker 1: which was I again found very very odd. So the
Speaker 1: servants they break off from one another again. Iliana and
Speaker 1: carsh kiss, and just like the audience, Cameron is shocked
Speaker 1: to realize there are a couple. Carl says it's been
Speaker 1: on and off for twenty one years. As Camra gets
Speaker 1: ready to transport Carsha's again pulled down the stairs and
Speaker 1: Iliana is also in goy the darkness, but at least
Speaker 1: she also does nothing, leaving just Cameron alone in the
Speaker 1: room with the smoke monster until her mom arrives, catching
Speaker 1: a glimpse of the darkness, which drives him off because
Speaker 1: he broke into the other room where other people can
Speaker 1: see him. Like the maid and everything else. But the
Speaker 1: second the mom comes in, he can't be in the
Speaker 1: room anymore.
Speaker 3: Well, it even the question even gets asked, does she
Speaker 3: have powers? Yeah?
Speaker 2: You have powers too?
Speaker 1: Are you a witch? How did you make that happen?
Speaker 3: Because but it's never talked about again after that, it
Speaker 3: just kind of goes away.
Speaker 2: It's another just like.
Speaker 1: Carshilana, who have powers, can't do anything.
Speaker 2: Can't do anything.
Speaker 3: But the mom, the mortal that comes into the room
Speaker 3: somehow scares it away.
Speaker 1: Yes, is it afraid to let other people see it?
Speaker 1: None of it. I don't. I don't understand what's happening.
Speaker 1: I just don't understand what's happening. Anyway, their mom arrives,
Speaker 1: talked about the The cat, for some reason, catches a
Speaker 1: glimpse of the darkness, which scares it so it forced
Speaker 1: them to hide in a closet. We don't know what's
Speaker 1: ever being addressed. We don't know what's happening. Maybe it'll
Speaker 1: be in Twitches too this time it's personal. But for
Speaker 1: right now, Mentos, the fresh Maker is scared off by
Speaker 1: the mom coming in. Yes, they at this point say
Speaker 1: we've got to deal with Thantos in Coventry. And although
Speaker 1: she picks the wrong closet at first, which is kind
Speaker 1: of funny. We go to our final commercial break with
Speaker 1: a flash a dimensional traveling light boom. Now, Thantos returns
Speaker 1: to Coventry and pretends he tried to save Cameron, telling
Speaker 1: his wife and Alex that he found her but barely
Speaker 1: escaped with her. He says, the darkness is taking control.
Speaker 1: He says, the darkness is taking control and they must
Speaker 1: seal the castle to block her, but to his surprise,
Speaker 1: Cameron is already there. Everyone knows he's the bad guy.
Speaker 1: And then the girls do the hand signal for whatever loser,
Speaker 1: which is almost the exact same thing we saw on
Speaker 1: Camp Rock. Yeah, and I didn't know that was the thing.
Speaker 1: I guess, whatever loser?
Speaker 7: What is it?
Speaker 2: This go like whatever for the eave?
Speaker 1: Oh right? What whatever loser?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, must be a Disney thing. Fantos tries
Speaker 1: to talk his way out of it, but their mom
Speaker 1: sits him down and ties him up with drapes, which
Speaker 1: I have to assume was animated afterwards, and after they
Speaker 1: spent the twenty million dollars because it was not good,
Speaker 1: and his head is like and he's like Patrick is
Speaker 1: looking back and forth.
Speaker 2: And yeah was it squeezing man? What?
Speaker 1: I don't know and why? And he was looking at
Speaker 1: the ones that they had clearly hadn't animated yet, and
Speaker 1: that's always tough when you're working on green screen. I mean,
Speaker 1: at one point, the green screen is so bad that
Speaker 1: he turns and his ear disappears. Yeah, yes, he saw it.
Speaker 1: It was just it was not great. They reveal the
Speaker 1: signs of the sun and the moon on his palms,
Speaker 1: and he admits he's the Darkness and apparently killed his
Speaker 1: own brother. This was such a twist that I did
Speaker 1: not see coming. Weight called it ready like waiting. We
Speaker 1: called it it just it. We didn't. We didn't. It
Speaker 1: should have I'm sorry again, fantasy guy and me the
Speaker 1: whole twist. They should have set it up where we
Speaker 1: constantly think it's the bad guy and it turns out
Speaker 1: to be the mom who's the bad guy the entire time.
Speaker 2: But that would have been even worse.
Speaker 1: I know, But that's the cool thing. That would have
Speaker 1: been the great twist. Or the dad is still alive
Speaker 1: and he was actually the darkness. There's so much more
Speaker 1: you could have done. Then wait a minute, is the
Speaker 1: bad guy the bad guy that could have been so
Speaker 1: much boil alert. Yes, he tells their mom that he
Speaker 1: loves her, but it's all too late. She wants him
Speaker 1: to return the lives he's destroyed, but he says this
Speaker 1: is just the beginning. Then the darkness enters the castle
Speaker 1: once again.
Speaker 3: So that's not him, He's not the one who's controlling it.
Speaker 3: Or he pops in and out of being the darkness.
Speaker 1: I guess. And why then couldn't it have come and
Speaker 1: taken the castle the whole time, right, because if it
Speaker 1: had just come in and taken the castle the whole time,
Speaker 1: is it because he loved her and he didn't want
Speaker 1: the darkness to come in? None of this made any
Speaker 1: sense to me, where I just don't understand the rules
Speaker 1: of the darkness where apparently it hates plants and it
Speaker 1: hates drawings.
Speaker 3: Because the twins did it at the beginning, Was it
Speaker 3: only for like I feel like they needed to emphasize
Speaker 3: the twenty first birthday being like, yes, the the limitation
Speaker 3: of what their whatever it is they did as a
Speaker 3: baby a babies like the twenty first birthday was the limitation.
Speaker 1: So yeah, if they don't touch by then, if something happens,
Speaker 1: if something it's all kind of like Halloween Town. Like
Speaker 1: Halloween Town. If we don't start training her by thirteen,
Speaker 1: she's going to lose all This very simple one line
Speaker 1: we got that she was going to lose her.
Speaker 2: Power to have happened by then, Yes.
Speaker 1: Something to let us know what's going on, and okay,
Speaker 1: their mom tries to attack it, but her powers have
Speaker 1: been drained apparently during the missed melee, Phantos disappears in
Speaker 1: another rough visual effect, now out of his confinement of
Speaker 1: the chick and the rappings, which again I also and
Speaker 1: this is just the fantasy story guy in me, but
Speaker 1: they never should have thrown him into the king's throne.
Speaker 1: He's on the throne, and that's bad. He's the bad guy.
Speaker 1: You don't sit the bad guy on the throne. I don't.
Speaker 1: I didn't like it. But now he's out of the
Speaker 1: confinement of the chair. Thantos takes their mom and laughs maniacally.
Speaker 1: And I mean there's a lot of laughing while flying
Speaker 1: around all over the place, very Witches of the Wizard
Speaker 1: of Oz.
Speaker 2: Com What was he flying for?
Speaker 1: Don't know. I don't know what's happening. I don't know
Speaker 1: what they're fighting for either.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 3: I mean, I was hoping you were gonna be helping
Speaker 3: me out these blanks.
Speaker 2: I guess it.
Speaker 1: Will doesn't see that's the new because I have no
Speaker 1: idea what's going on. I don't get who he's trying
Speaker 1: to attack, what he's trying to attack, why he's.
Speaker 7: Trying to.
Speaker 1: Didn't they come into the castle? If he could come
Speaker 1: into the castle the whole time? It was also in
Speaker 1: the castle when the babies were there, and they fought
Speaker 1: it off. But I don't I don't know what's happening.
Speaker 1: But when he dips down to attack the girls, they
Speaker 1: grab each other's hands and concentrate, apologizing to each other
Speaker 1: for their mistakes, and they realized that it was love
Speaker 1: that saved them as babies. Okay, so this is all
Speaker 1: very Harry Potter at this point, because it was the
Speaker 1: love Harry. I'll explain it to you screen. It's okay,
Speaker 1: it's the Harry got his lightning scar. I did I
Speaker 1: saw your face go black? Here we go, I saw
Speaker 1: your face go by. So Harry's mom sacrifices herself when
Speaker 1: Valdemort tries to kill Harry, and the sacrifice that she
Speaker 1: makes her love for him is what saved him and
Speaker 1: makes it to where Valdemort can't touch him. His actual
Speaker 1: skin becomes a spell because she died saving him and
Speaker 1: her love for him saved Harry. They tried to do
Speaker 1: the same thing here, they just did it in a much,
Speaker 1: much worse way. Sorry, but it's absolutely true. So they
Speaker 1: realized that the love that saved them as babies, it
Speaker 1: can save them again. They tear up as bright light
Speaker 1: builds between them. Alex and Cameron start listing off family
Speaker 1: members and friends they love, ending with each other, and
Speaker 1: this defeats the darkness for good. Essentially, they're saying that
Speaker 1: light is not the opposite of dark. Love is the
Speaker 1: opposite of dark. It's the old argument, is hate the
Speaker 1: opposite of love. No indifference is the opposite of love.
Speaker 1: Love and hate are actually kind of the same thing.
Speaker 1: But that's a whole different philosophical discussion. But they've defeated
Speaker 1: the darkness for good by simply saying the names of
Speaker 1: the people that they love, and Coventry has been ridden
Speaker 1: of this evil. Now safe, the girls hug their biological
Speaker 1: mom and are now joined by Karsha and Iliana. W
Speaker 1: horror back and are thrilled to see this outcome and
Speaker 1: may stay on Earth dimension for good, mentioning that hot
Speaker 1: wings are only ten cents on Wednesdays. She had a
Speaker 1: big eating thing, which is kind of funny. She was funny.
Speaker 1: We return to Cameron's mansion, which is now empty of
Speaker 1: the party. We see the maid, so it's good to
Speaker 1: know that she didn't die or was horribly burned. The
Speaker 1: twins are now perfectly sync together forever they sing, go Twitches,
Speaker 1: It's your Birthday, and then hug and that is our movie.
Speaker 1: We still don't know what's going on. Something to know.
Speaker 1: The original ending of The Twitch's script had the girl
Speaker 1: stuck in the Magical Dimension without destroying Thantos the fresh Maker,
Speaker 1: leaving a more ambiguous situation for the sequel. Do you
Speaker 1: think that would have been better had they been stuck
Speaker 1: there as opposed to kind of wrap up at the end.
Speaker 3: I mean, they had to have beat this guy. They
Speaker 3: had to have at least beat the darkness for there
Speaker 3: to be an ending. They had to still happened, so
Speaker 3: to not do it at all, I maybe him getting
Speaker 3: away somehow, but again he wasn't always having to be connected.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I guess that could have actually worked, But.
Speaker 1: I didn't really know what was happening. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: know there's probably people out there that love this movie
Speaker 1: and you watch it when you're a kid and you
Speaker 1: love this movie. I know that I am supposed to
Speaker 1: be trying to put myself in the body and mind
Speaker 1: and soul of somebody younger to watch these things. But
Speaker 1: I can tell you my mind, body, at soul at thirteen,
Speaker 1: as a D and D NERD, as a fantasy nerd,
Speaker 1: would still have been yelling, what's the magical system? I
Speaker 1: don't understand what's happening. So this is one where I'm
Speaker 1: giving myself a break for not understanding it because I
Speaker 1: didn't get it.
Speaker 3: It was it was crazy, it was hard, it was
Speaker 3: hard to it was all over the place.
Speaker 1: I agree, let's do real reviews, Sabrina.
Speaker 2: Let's do them.
Speaker 1: And this week I have the five star yeah, and
Speaker 1: it is from Lenya T leave him some saying that
Speaker 1: right as l A N I y A T. This
Speaker 1: movie is awesome. I watched like two times, but me
Speaker 1: and my family is gonna watch this as a family.
Speaker 1: But you guys did a good job. Five stars here
Speaker 1: it is five stars. I love it.
Speaker 2: Sentence.
Speaker 1: It's unfortunately completely totally accurate. But that is a five
Speaker 1: star review, Sabrina, what's our one star?
Speaker 3: I got a one star from an unnamed viewer. I
Speaker 3: wish I had a twin. I wish I could do magic.
Speaker 1: I like it. It's actually you, you mispronounce it. It's
Speaker 1: not a name. It's Unaminate is the name of the
Speaker 1: guy who left.
Speaker 2: You not getting me?
Speaker 1: Get not getting me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just all about seeing right through your garbage.
Speaker 1: All right. So we are now approaching, of course, Sabrina's
Speaker 1: favorite part of the program, which is our featured game
Speaker 1: coming up from producer Jensen, and this one. I'm just
Speaker 1: reading this for the first time right now, and I'm
Speaker 1: so unbelievably happy and excited for this game. It's called
Speaker 1: sand Twitches. Yes, we are going to be given the
Speaker 1: ingredients of a popular sandwich and we have to correctly
Speaker 1: guess what sandwich is being described. But we have to
Speaker 1: do it in our best witch voice followed by best
Speaker 1: witch cackle. If we get three out of five right
Speaker 1: and have a good witch impression, we win and save Coventry.
Speaker 1: If I get even one of these sandwiches wrong, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be pissed.
Speaker 7: Really, I'm really quick, really quick. I'm just jumping in.
Speaker 7: I missed the beginning. This is my favorite? What'd you
Speaker 7: guys think? I love twitches? What do you guys think?
Speaker 7: I mean, it's one of my faves?
Speaker 1: Man, this is your this is this is your favorite movie?
Speaker 1: You missed the whole review? This is this is our
Speaker 1: favorite too.
Speaker 7: Yeah, It's like it's like Color of Friendship and then this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's It's just it's so well laid out
Speaker 1: and the story is so flowing and without holes. I'm
Speaker 1: very excited.
Speaker 7: But now I was always so scared at the end
Speaker 7: that that bad guy would just laugh forever.
Speaker 1: Wait, I'm amazed that you even knew that was the
Speaker 1: bad guy. Twist caught me shocking by surprise. It did
Speaker 1: not catch you nomin by surprise, though. Who gave this
Speaker 1: one star? So here we go, Sabrina. Our first sandwich. First,
Speaker 1: it's rye bread, corn beef, Swiss cheese, Sauer Kraut Russian
Speaker 1: or a thousand Island dressing. Do you know what I do?
Speaker 2: This is one of my favorite sandwiches.
Speaker 3: What I can't think of the full point besides a
Speaker 3: corn beef sandwich, I don't think, Oh.
Speaker 2: What is what's it's I don't remember you have to do.
Speaker 1: It in a witch's voice, and then.
Speaker 2: I don't even you want me to do it? Corn beef?
Speaker 7: Here we go?
Speaker 1: What's that?
Speaker 7: That was awful?
Speaker 1: I would kill to be able to watch that again
Speaker 1: right now? First of all, what which does this.
Speaker 2: All my animated things?
Speaker 7: Hey, guys, I'll give you one show. I'll give you
Speaker 7: one option on another game, which one of our two
Speaker 7: hosts is a professional voice over?
Speaker 1: Okay, here we go, I will answer the first one ready?
Speaker 1: Is the Ruben sandwich Ruben Yes, Ruben sandwich invented in Omaha,
Speaker 1: Nebraska by a man named Ruben k at a poker game.
Speaker 1: It one sandwich of the year in nineteen fifty six.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: My gosh, do you like them? I love?
Speaker 1: It's my favorite sandwich of all times, a Ruben sandwich. Yes.
Speaker 3: Number two, love making corn beef at Saint Patrick's Day
Speaker 3: because I said those after.
Speaker 1: Well, you know it's my favorite holiday? Now is any
Speaker 1: holiday where you have to do a witch's voice? Is
Speaker 1: now my favorite thing? Number two? Toasted bread, turkey, bacon, lettuce, tomato, mayo,
Speaker 1: and cheese.
Speaker 2: This is the club sandwich.
Speaker 7: But that's not hot I can't hear you.
Speaker 2: My god, I don't know.
Speaker 7: I don't know they Sorry, I can't hear you.
Speaker 1: Come on, we need to hear it.
Speaker 2: Come on.
Speaker 7: Sorry, my zoom only allows a certain pitch.
Speaker 1: Let's here, Sabrina, come on, let's hear it.
Speaker 7: Might even be a twitch. Don a pitch?
Speaker 2: Come on, love sandwich.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's a weird Southern witch, a club
Speaker 1: sand witch.
Speaker 7: She sounds like like to me, it's like a character
Speaker 7: and gone with the wind. Who's dying?
Speaker 1: Yes, isn't it?
Speaker 12: Oh?
Speaker 1: No, no, spreakless.
Speaker 2: I'm probably so red right now, I'm so hot.
Speaker 7: Alright, that's good enough, I mean, honestly, it's at least
Speaker 7: it's consistent.
Speaker 1: Alright. Third, we have roasted pork ham, Swiss cheese, pickles
Speaker 1: and mustard. What do you got, Sabrina, You don't know
Speaker 1: roasted pork ham, Swiss cheese, pickles and mustard. No, no,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna go. I'll do mine then, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna a warlock, not which and I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: it is a Cuban sandwich.
Speaker 7: Man. Please let Sabrina know that.
Speaker 1: So Next, we have on a HOGI roll in melted
Speaker 1: cheese and saute onions.
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, there's actually this could be two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, it's really it's really one. It's really one.
Speaker 1: It's really one.
Speaker 2: Yes, melted more commercially, Yeah, more commercial?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 2: Is it a for your sandwich?
Speaker 1: Wait?
Speaker 2: Wait cheese seak?
Speaker 5: Is it?
Speaker 2: Don't feel sandwich? I got this is the worst of
Speaker 2: all of that.
Speaker 1: Oh, this is my favorite game I've ever played.
Speaker 7: She had to say it in a normal voice for
Speaker 7: me to even know what it was.
Speaker 1: They hug her down. You just saw this much on zoom.
Speaker 2: Fill it dr feel sandwich?
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Number five we have ham turkey Swiss cheese, which is
Speaker 1: then fried and dusted with sugar. That I have no idea.
Speaker 2: No, no, ham turkey, sweat Swiss cheese. Okay, fried with
Speaker 2: dusted sugar.
Speaker 1: No, it's not wonderful. I'm gonna do this.
Speaker 12: One is Harry Potter, because that hermione is of course
Speaker 12: a Monte Cristo sandwich.
Speaker 2: Oh where's your cap? All right?
Speaker 12: Limos my ca it's Harry. Harry doesn't tackle.
Speaker 11: Five for five In answer, Oh god, you're not going
Speaker 11: to get a sandwich past me, but you are going
Speaker 11: to get a voice past Sabrina that that was one
Speaker 11: of the funniest things I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for making me laugh harder than
Speaker 1: I have in a very long time. Oh, I can't
Speaker 1: wait to go out and get a Philadelphia sandwich after this.
Speaker 1: This is so much fun. Can we do a Sabrina
Speaker 1: C's please?
Speaker 2: Oh man, oh man. There were just, I would say,
Speaker 2: a lot of just random things.
Speaker 3: And again, because there was a lot of plot holes,
Speaker 3: I was always kind of thinking they were going to
Speaker 3: explain it. One of the things that they didn't explain
Speaker 3: at all was his glasses that he had that he
Speaker 3: could just randomly put up to the sky and see
Speaker 3: the darkness.
Speaker 1: But you could also see the darkness.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was.
Speaker 3: Weird because then he would you wouldn't see where it
Speaker 3: was coming from. What kind of measure that had to
Speaker 3: like tell us like, it's coming really fast, it's almost here, No,
Speaker 3: it's not.
Speaker 2: It never it was never.
Speaker 1: Explained the unit of measurement of those glasses.
Speaker 3: Using you know, in a lot of movies like this
Speaker 3: they would say, oh, those glasses tell you whatever. Anyway,
Speaker 3: there was also I thought there would be a reason.
Speaker 3: Now the only reason was someone was watching them through
Speaker 3: the eyes of the random cemented cows that were on
Speaker 3: this big property of grass and they were watched, but
Speaker 3: who was watching?
Speaker 4: Like was.
Speaker 2: It okay? That didn't you?
Speaker 3: I mean random cement statue cows. I would think was
Speaker 3: going to be expl of some sort, like they meant
Speaker 3: something in the other.
Speaker 2: World or whatever. That's not true.
Speaker 3: One of the things we did catch the song that
Speaker 3: we mentioned, the Go Gos song, Yeah we got the beat.
Speaker 3: Another song that I recognized because of a tour they
Speaker 3: went on and I had to bring it up because
Speaker 3: we watched a movie that the two girls starred in
Speaker 3: and that was Ali and AJ. They have a song,
Speaker 3: a rush song that they played in one of the montages.
Speaker 3: And again because I heard this song every night for
Speaker 3: you know, the seventeen dates or whatever that we did.
Speaker 2: On that little tour, and I went, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: what is that song? And I went to like look
Speaker 2: it up. I was like, I feel like that's an
Speaker 2: Allian AJ song and it was.
Speaker 3: It was pretty cool to have it, and that again
Speaker 3: is not something that was like a licensed piece of music.
Speaker 2: Is not something we've seen a ton on the channel.
Speaker 3: And then we talked about the necklaces that all the
Speaker 3: girl the two girls and the mom, but then randomly
Speaker 3: the necklace.
Speaker 2: That the adopted mom she also had a.
Speaker 3: Giant it was like a bat honest, yes, but what
Speaker 3: was that representing because it didn't go with her Halloween costume.
Speaker 1: No, I think twitches too. They're gonna hopefully explain that
Speaker 1: she's got.
Speaker 3: Powers to powers to maybe so we noticed that, so
Speaker 3: let's just keep that in mind for the sequels.
Speaker 1: She couldn't magic her husband up any sleeves, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 7: Because there's also there's also a scene where she kind
Speaker 7: of makes someone leave, right, isn't that part of it?
Speaker 3: Yes, she was able to get the darkness to darkness
Speaker 3: leave out of nowhere. We don't know why, so we're thinking,
Speaker 3: I think that maybe along with this, maybe her bat
Speaker 3: chest playing.
Speaker 1: Something her chest.
Speaker 7: Hole in their first.
Speaker 3: And then the one thing I will say and you
Speaker 3: brought it up was one of the first things that
Speaker 3: happened in the first scene when we meet Cameron's parents
Speaker 3: when they came into the room, because the age difference
Speaker 3: did not seem like equivolented to them having a daughter
Speaker 3: that would be twenty one at the time. Are they
Speaker 3: friends or is this like a uncle? I didn't realize
Speaker 3: because they look so much closer in age than what
Speaker 3: you would think.
Speaker 1: Well, no, I think it's the I think it's the mom.
Speaker 1: Their magical mom is only nine years older than her, right.
Speaker 3: But I mean I thought that just in real life,
Speaker 3: I look same thing when they had her magical mom.
Speaker 2: She also just looks so young. Both of the kids looked,
Speaker 2: or both of the girls just looked a lot more
Speaker 2: closer to their age. For them to be playing their
Speaker 2: parents look felt weird to me. So that was really
Speaker 2: that was what it was.
Speaker 3: And then I always love like a funny line where
Speaker 3: the dad who just kind of seemed lost all the time,
Speaker 3: he really is finding himself as what what it means to.
Speaker 1: Be as a man as a parent.
Speaker 2: Yep, he goes, will someone tell me what's going on?
Speaker 2: And she literally just says later, Daddy, like you help me.
Speaker 3: He's just it's the same as some of the other
Speaker 3: things we've seen in other movies that I always just
Speaker 3: have like a funny quote that I love to just
Speaker 3: you know, I think they're hilarious.
Speaker 2: Made me laugh about he just got poor guy just got.
Speaker 2: He got right right to the side, poor guy.
Speaker 1: Well, now we come to the portion of our show
Speaker 1: Its gonna be a tough one where we rate our
Speaker 1: movies one out of ten our options this week, one
Speaker 1: out of ten, whatever losers, one out of ten, useless skills,
Speaker 1: one out of ten, Zoros to flirt with, one out
Speaker 1: of ten, roommates with Fomo, huge tia tears, one out
Speaker 1: of ten, ten cent wings, Oh that's good, one out
Speaker 1: of ten, smoke monsters with Blood and Fire, or one
Speaker 1: out of ten. Uncle Stepdads. I'm gonna let you pick
Speaker 1: this week. What would you like to do?
Speaker 2: I love the huge tea tears.
Speaker 1: You got it? So I think did I go first
Speaker 1: last time? Or did you go first last night? I
Speaker 1: think I went first home you did go first. Yes,
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing.
Speaker 3: So it's already hard enough to compare these d comps
Speaker 3: because we're just seeing so many of them now and
Speaker 3: I'm loving it, but you do start comparing them to
Speaker 3: each other.
Speaker 2: You have to them.
Speaker 3: Going back and forth made it hard for me to
Speaker 3: just dive into the cartooniness of what the green screen
Speaker 3: stuff was, you know, so I didn't love a lot
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 2: Again, I'm trying to get on a level.
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna go ahead and just do my
Speaker 3: my correct studying and start watching all of the Harry
Speaker 3: Potters because.
Speaker 1: Read the books. The movies are great, but read the books.
Speaker 3: I will, but I'm trying so hard. But again, those
Speaker 3: holes being able to not just have me skip right
Speaker 3: over them means they were pretty big, and so I
Speaker 3: think I'm gonna go with a six point zero.
Speaker 2: Huge tea tears.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's that's okay. I cannot be as gen with
Speaker 1: this film because I am a fantasy nerd. I cannot
Speaker 1: get the fantasy nerd them out of my head. I
Speaker 1: know people say I should, but even thirteen year old
Speaker 1: me would not have been happy with the world building
Speaker 1: and the magical system in this movie. I didn't get it.
Speaker 1: I didn't know where they were going. I am giving
Speaker 1: this a four point five huge Tia tiars. Again, nothing
Speaker 1: about Tia and Tamara. They are stars, they will always
Speaker 1: be stars. There's a reason that they were the darlings
Speaker 1: of the network. They are built for Disney Channel and
Speaker 1: for being young actors, writers, singers, producers, that they're the
Speaker 1: model of it. So nothing against the more reason, any way,
Speaker 1: shape or form, this script needed somebody with some sort
Speaker 1: of magical or fantasy knowledge to come in and give
Speaker 1: it a polish. So the nerd in me, as I
Speaker 1: point to all my toys and fantasy novels behind me,
Speaker 1: cannot give this a high mark, having nothing to do
Speaker 1: with the acting. Acting Again, acting's all good. The green
Speaker 1: screen was not good. There was the twist made, there
Speaker 1: was no twist. I didn't understand what the bad guy
Speaker 1: was doing. It wasn't particularly scary. It's four point five
Speaker 1: huge tea tears for me and there you have it.
Speaker 1: Thank you everybody for joining us on this amazing journey
Speaker 1: that was Tweitch is Twitches, Thank you so much. It
Speaker 1: is our next movie, everybody is, We are going to
Speaker 1: one that once again I know nothing about. This could
Speaker 1: be about a family of librarians that read so much
Speaker 1: they start to cry. Yes, our next film is Read
Speaker 1: It and Weep, which I believe is also on Disney Plus.
Speaker 1: So please watch and go and prepare with us as
Speaker 1: we are going to prepare because I don't know anything
Speaker 1: about this movie, but Read It a Weep as our
Speaker 1: next one. Thank you so much for joining us for
Speaker 1: what was Twitches, and remember to subscribe to our feed.
Speaker 1: You can follow us at the Magical rewind pod on
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Speaker 1: everybody fee