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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Lets go. Are you

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Speaker 1: ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Saturday, July twenty fourth, twenty twenty one, Season seventeen,

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Speaker 1: episode number two. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.

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Speaker 1: We're live from Mockingtonnard, California. It is day three of

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Speaker 1: training camp two thousand twenty one that is presented by

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Speaker 1: American Airlines, and I'm here with Dave and Nick. We're

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Speaker 1: talking Cowboys football, you guys for the next forty five minutes.

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Speaker 1: Today will be the Cowboys' third practice that'll start at

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Speaker 1: eleven am Pacific time. I'm sorry, second practice. But you know,

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Speaker 1: it was interesting because yesterday Mike McCarthy talked about kind

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Speaker 1: time he's ever given a day of rest after only

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Speaker 1: one practice. But after kind of seeing how the team

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Speaker 1: stick with that going forward. What'd you guess see, is

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Speaker 1: he gonna have a choice? I mean, is that his choice?

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Speaker 1: I think how he how he arranges it, I think

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Speaker 1: Kellen Moore talking and him talking that, you know they're

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Speaker 1: love it, uh that, you know, it's just stop start,

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Speaker 1: But um, but you gotta be smart on you know

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Speaker 1: what the off day is. It's not a proud but

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Speaker 1: it's not necessarily off date. They're still doing something. I

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Speaker 1: did think Mike and I agree with that. But I

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Speaker 1: thought Mike made an interesting point that I don't know

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Speaker 1: that I'd ever considered. But like, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: anxiety that goes into this. Maybe not for your stars

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Speaker 1: and the guys that have done this a million times,

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Speaker 1: but a lot of the guys on the roster don't

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Speaker 1: fit that description. You're fighting for a job, fighting for

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Speaker 1: the NFL before, totally get that. So maybe it's maybe

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Speaker 1: it's a good thing to you know, you get your

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Speaker 1: I'm here situated in my hotel room. I've been on

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Speaker 1: the field, I got this, I know where the meeting

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Speaker 1: it is going to be kind of herky jerky because

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Speaker 1: I think we do we do two in a row

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Speaker 1: it is not what it used to be. But that's well,

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Speaker 1: probably a good thing. For what's the difference between the

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Speaker 1: NBA and Major League Baseball and the NFL regular season games.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's the fact that there's a bunch of them,

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Speaker 1: the same can be said with practice. There's only a

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Speaker 1: I mean that means everything. This isn't just a throwaway practice.

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Speaker 1: not a bad thing, Dave, You and I were talking

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Speaker 1: Randy was and he was said, that's my guy, you know,

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Speaker 1: the inside of him. And the stuff that's on the

426
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Speaker 1: inside is someone that's gonna say I'm kicking ass, I'm

427
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Speaker 1: gonna run your ass over or flip over you, or

428
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,119
Speaker 1: do whatever it takes. You're taking that away if you

429
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 1: if you don't let him be Dack and that and

430
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,919
Speaker 1: the play where he hurt his ankles is freak. You

431
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 1: know what I mean, he's been tackled so many times,

432
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,439
Speaker 1: and let's he got he got mauled in college, like

433
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 1: if you like, just like he was, he's a one

434
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,120
Speaker 1: man show going against Alabama. And don't tell me that's

435
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,639
Speaker 1: the like that's too different than the NFL. Like that

436
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 1: was Jonathan Allen and the guys that are in the

437
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 1: NFL right now, we're just teeing off on him. He

438
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 1: didn't have Tyrn Smith. Yeah, he didn't have those guys.

439
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,119
Speaker 1: He might have had like one other NFL player on

440
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 1: those teams. Um, and he was fine. I just I

441
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 1: don't you know, you can't. You can't live in fear,

442
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 1: scared money, don't make money. Let him play. I'm gonna

443
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 1: just a little fun here. I'm gonna take a little offshoot.

444
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 1: This was not on our rundown, but as you guys

445
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Speaker 1: were talking, I was reminded of this. I was watching

446
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 1: ESPN yesterday and one of the guys on there, who

447
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan of his anyway, so and

448
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 1: I'm always saying that. I'll tell you why I'm saying that,

449
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 1: But um, he made the comment. He said, I think

450
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott and Daniel Jones have the exact same skill set,

451
00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 1: and again I'm not a big fan of it. So

452
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 1: my first reaction was you're dumb. And so I don't

453
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Speaker 1: know if I said that because I already don't like

454
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:11,400
Speaker 1: his brand of commentary, or if it really was a

455
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 1: false statement. But as I started thinking about, I was like,

456
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 1: could this be true? And I'm just not giving enough

457
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 1: credit because of the person that said it. So I

458
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 1: wanted to get your opinions. Do you think that's a

459
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Speaker 1: that's a fair statement to say that they have similar

460
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Speaker 1: skill sets. There's a lot of there's a lot of

461
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Speaker 1: good people doing work in the national media. I'm not

462
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 1: just I'm not saying all media sucks, but like just

463
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,400
Speaker 1: some of those guys are just so stupid. I don't care.

464
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,679
Speaker 1: I don't care here. And and Daniel Jones is a

465
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 1: good athlete. Yes, he's a very good athlete. He's the

466
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Speaker 1: classic like sneaky athletic, which is just a nice way

467
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,719
Speaker 1: of saying he's white. Yeah, kind of like Joe Burrow. Um,

468
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 1: he had to just get that part. I'm just saying, like,

469
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:49,880
Speaker 1: but I don't know, people said it about him all

470
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Speaker 1: through that season and during the draft process, Like, Daniel

471
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 1: Jones is a good athlete. But I mean, come on,

472
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: he played fourteen games last year and through eleven touchdowns

473
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Speaker 1: and ten interceptions, he didn't crack three thousand yards like Dak.

474
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: Dak was comparable to that in five games. Come like,

475
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 1: and need we bring up the highlight of him tripping

476
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Speaker 1: over his own feet with nobody around him? Nick was

477
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 1: just talking about, I mean, you know, Dak is throwing

478
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 1: Josh Norman out of the way in the open field

479
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 1: and flipping over people to win playoff games, Like, shut

480
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 1: up that, No, And Daniel Jones is a good athlete,

481
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Speaker 1: but he doesn't deserve to be compared to Dak at

482
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Speaker 1: this point in his career. Well, and I think, you know,

483
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Speaker 1: skill set, what what is that? What are we really

484
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 1: saying here? Does he throw the ball better than Dak?

485
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I don't know, but I don't care.

486
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 1: Like like all that what Dave's saying, None of that

487
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 1: stuff really matters. Can you get the job done? Can

488
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: you go and take your team to the next level?

489
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: Can you get from here to there without falling down?

490
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Speaker 1: Can you not fumble the football? And all that? He's

491
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Speaker 1: not He's not there the type of quarterback that Dak

492
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: is in Dak in his second year was way above

493
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Speaker 1: what he is as well. So I mean skill set.

494
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 1: I always think about skill set of can you go

495
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 1: out to Disney World and be in that quarterback challenge

496
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 1: or whatever? Okay, great, can beat the guy. Ironically, people

497
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,479
Speaker 1: killed Dak for years because he did that and sucked

498
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: at it. Remember that, Like I think, yeah, maybe David

499
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: Carr beat him in one of those like accuracy games,

500
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: Like Dak was just there to promote something, and like

501
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: people pulled that video up for years. I don't give

502
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: a damn about that, right, That's not what it is.

503
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 1: That's not you know, that's it's not about that, and

504
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 1: so skills, who cares? Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't,

505
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Speaker 1: Daniel Joe, I looked it up. Sorry, but that's how

506
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 1: that's just like saying that that this guy, you know,

507
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: like Kyle Korver is a better shooter than you know,

508
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant or whatever. Okay, maybe he could win the

509
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: three point contest, but let's play. Why don't we just

510
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: put him out there and let's play and see what happens.

511
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Speaker 1: You know, Steve Kerr was a really good shooter, but

512
00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: he wouldn't he wouldn't beating you know, Michael Jordan, Daniel Jones.

513
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones through for twenty nine hundred yards and eleven

514
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: touchdowns in fourteen games, Dac through for eighteen hundred and

515
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 1: nine in five not even five four and a half

516
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Speaker 1: because he left the Giants game early. So I no, stop,

517
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Speaker 1: I maybe I'm wrong. Maybe well no, I'm like, maybe

518
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is going to be a revelation and really

519
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: turn the corner. But if I had to guess, I

520
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: think four months from now the Giants are gonna look

521
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: like idiots for not going after justin Field. It's a

522
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Speaker 1: fied to guess. Well, and you know whoever said that,

523
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Speaker 1: I don't even know who said that, but basically just

524
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 1: trying to draw people offsides and Derek, you just decus

525
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 1: heard that thing around the corner. No, no, no, The

526
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: reason why is because I again, sometimes you know, I

527
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 1: goes there's certain people you really respect and others you don't,

528
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: and so others you don't. Typically when they say things,

529
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: it's easy to dismiss them, right, And so I was like,

530
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 1: and as I honestly, as I started thinking about it,

531
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Speaker 1: I thought, well, he can run the ball. He probably

532
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 1: doesn't get as much credit for being able to run

533
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Speaker 1: the ball as he does. We know he can throw

534
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: the ball down field. We've seen that before. He's done

535
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 1: that to go with the Giants. So you just think

536
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: about it. From that standpoint, those two skills, you could

537
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: probably make some argument that they're comparable. I still was like,

538
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: I still am not willing to go there, but I

539
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: just wanted to make sure I wasn't thinking about this

540
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: more so from the standpoint of me having not really

541
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: I think he's a terrible quarterback at all. I think

542
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: he you know, I think they have a chance to

543
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: be pretty good offensively. He's gonna come into his own.

544
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: He's got a running back now, you know back, And

545
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 1: I think that he's got a good compliment of receivers

546
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: out there. We'll see how good they are with him.

547
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 1: But I think he's got just just on the face

548
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: of it, decent setup of receivers down there. All right,

549
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: let's let's move on. Let's talk about Dan Quinn and

550
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: his comment. The first one I want to talk about, um,

551
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: he told his story about a situation where they miked

552
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: up Demante because casey, uh, they've tell that story and

553
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 1: and kind of the relevance that he was at the

554
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: point he was making with the story. Yeah, Casey tipped

555
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: us off to it when he spoke to the media,

556
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Speaker 1: but he was basically saying, you know, dan Quinn's gonna

557
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 1: come up with ways to get what he wants at view.

558
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: And you know, he's a talkative, loud personality guy in life,

559
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: but on the field, he wasn't doing enough. He wasn't communicating,

560
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: he wasn't talking as much as he needed to. And

561
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: this was back when he was in Atlanta years ago,

562
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: not right now. But so dan Quinn miked him up,

563
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: like not like NFL films miked him up, you know,

564
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: coaching staff, just to kind of show him what he

565
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 1: was or in this case, was not doing. And then

566
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Speaker 1: I think dan Quinn was saying he showed him the video,

567
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: which I think everybody's seen the video of John Lynch

568
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl for Tampa, and you know, he

569
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: told Dexter Jack he would like before the play, he

570
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: was like, we saw this on tape. This is gonna

571
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: be that slugo and if you're right here, you're good

572
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: to go. And he picked it off and ran back

573
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: for a touchdown, and like John Lynch was like, that's

574
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: that's what right, That's what I said, right, which I

575
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: always thought John Lynch was trying to like take credit

576
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: for the like He's like, hey, well Dexter made the pick,

577
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: but what anyway, But so dan Quinn's point was, you know,

578
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: it's not enough to say like, hey, shade left, Shade right,

579
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: Like you gotta to talk to coaches and say we

580
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: you know, we saw this. They tend to do this

581
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: in this formation. Keep your eye out for that. And

582
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: I think he said, you know, it's it's basically essential

583
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: at the safety position. That's part of your job. And

584
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,719
Speaker 1: I think it was just really Casey was saying, like,

585
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: that's what we talk about when we say he's a

586
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: player coach, is that he will do that type of

587
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: stuff to help you get the most out of your game.

588
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 1: And I wish that that more fans would would realize that,

589
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: you know, just because you're a cornerback that might be

590
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: slowing down, you know, and people think, well, if you're

591
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: a cornerback like that, you just just play, you know,

592
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: just play safety. You know you're older now, you want't

593
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: we just move him to safety? Well, first of all,

594
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: you got to be able to hit tackle and want

595
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: to do it, and you also have to do what

596
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: he's talking about, the full understand everybody's position and get

597
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: them lined up. And it's not it's not you know

598
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: every day where a cornerback or can just do that.

599
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: It's happened. There's been some good corners that kind of

600
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: shift over into that. But you know, there's more to

601
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: a safety than just being a guy that's kind of

602
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: a slower corner. It's not what it is at all,

603
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: which I think Quinn also, you know, referencing the John

604
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: Lynch tape, he was like, that's the championship standard we're

605
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: trying to meet. That doesn't mean you're not gonna be

606
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: that from the get, but that's where you're trying to

607
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: go if when you understand things on that level, ye

608
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: all right. Another thing he said that was interesting to me,

609
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: and this was kind of he just kind of threw

610
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: this in, but he was talking about the cornerbacks and

611
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: he said there will be times we'll want to make

612
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: we'll want to match up, and he was talking about

613
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: moving them around that The question was should we expect

614
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: to see the guy's line at the cornerbacks lining up

615
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: on the same side consistently. He was like, no, I

616
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: think we're gonna move them around because there are times

617
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: you might want to match up. And the first time

618
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: I'd really heard the idea that they may be traveling

619
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: guys because they want to get a particular matchup. So

620
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: my question for you guys is, did you get the

621
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: same thing that that could suggest that they may decide

622
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: to travel guys for specific matchups on game days? And

623
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: if so, who's the number one cornerback you think on

624
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: this team that would match up with the top y

625
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: receiver from an opponent or do you expect this to

626
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: be kind of something that varies based upon the skill

627
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: set of that particular player and then they match up

628
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: the corner they think is best to travel with him.

629
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: I don't think they have that corner right now. I

630
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I mean, I

631
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: mean Diggs, Yeah, we think he's he's going, you know, forward,

632
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be a really good player. But I

633
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: haven't seen that. I mean, he got burnt a lot

634
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: last year. We gave him that rookie pass because he

635
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: is a rookie thrown into the fire. He's gonna he

636
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: got thrown in more than what Joseph's gonna get thrown into,

637
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Speaker 1: I believe, but but he handled it. He kept coming

638
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Speaker 1: back from morning. I think he's getting better. But I

639
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Speaker 1: think digs a style of play is going to have

640
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Speaker 1: a really big game, defensive player of the week type

641
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Speaker 1: of game, two interceptions and stuff. I think he'll also

642
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Speaker 1: get burned really bad a game too, because that's the

643
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Speaker 1: type of player he is. I see a Generas Jenkins

644
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Speaker 1: type guy with him, kind of hot and cold. I mean,

645
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Speaker 1: just because he's gonna be the risk taker, but he's

646
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Speaker 1: gonna get picks. He's gonna get meat at times too.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if they have a guy, yeah,

648
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Speaker 1: I will say honestly, I prefer that kind of guy.

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Speaker 1: Give me a couple turnover, give me some turnovers, because

650
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: guess what, every cornerback gets beat. I want the guy

651
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Speaker 1: that is also going to if you're gonna get beat

652
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Speaker 1: sometimes sometimes give me the ball, Like give me a

653
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Speaker 1: turnover and I'll take that. I'll accept the fact that

654
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Speaker 1: you're gonna get beat. You would rather have that or

655
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Speaker 1: Byron Jones, who really didn't get beat a lot, didn't

656
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: make a lot of I want the guy's gonna give

657
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: me some turnovers. I seen one especially with an offense

658
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Speaker 1: that's that I expect is gonna score like this one,

659
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: give me some turnovers. I think I'm just that memory

660
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Speaker 1: of Dez just abusing generas Jenkins. Maybe that's a bad example. No, no,

661
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: I hear you. Though I would say Terrell Buckley, but

662
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: you know most people don't even remember that guy. I

663
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: was about to say that was like, that's back to

664
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Speaker 1: the day bucks A game. Yeah, Yeah, to be honest

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Speaker 1: with you, I really five six a year and not

666
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: a game. I'm gonna say that year. Um. I really

667
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: thought Dan was just talking more about figuring things out

668
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Speaker 1: at training camp and then like what they're gonna do? Okay.

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Speaker 1: He he had a great line that I liked a lot,

670
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: talking about you know, we basically got forty days before

671
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: this really starts to count, and like and over those

672
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: forty days, we just got to figure this whole thing out.

673
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Speaker 1: And I think that's part of that, which I do

674
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: love that. Though you know they're gonna they're gonna move

675
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: guys around, you're not always gonna be at left corner,

676
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: right corner. Anthony Brown, he said he's gonna play a

677
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: lot of nickel while he's here. Kelvin Joseph and and

678
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs maybe as well. I think it's just about

679
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Speaker 1: finding who does what the best so that when you

680
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Speaker 1: get to the season maybe you have those options. As

681
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Speaker 1: you know right now from what we've seen. I don't

682
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: even like to talk about traveling guys because that implies

683
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,719
Speaker 1: that you have a badass cornerback who can do that.

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Speaker 1: It's like, like, even, you know, it's cool that these

685
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Speaker 1: guys have the versatility, Like I think it's valuable that

686
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: AB can move into the slot, but it's like, okay, guys,

687
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: we're playing we're playing the best slot in the league.

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Speaker 1: AB get in there. It's like, oh no, like terrified

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Speaker 1: number one. So I think it's really just more about

690
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Speaker 1: finding who's comfortable with what so that you know what

691
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: you can do with them when it is time to

692
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: match up against opponents. All right, let's talk about actually

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Speaker 1: We're going to take our final break and then we'll

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. It is the final segment of the break

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Speaker 1: Lifemox Snard, California. This is going to be the second

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Speaker 1: sorry this morning, starting at eleven am Pacific time, we

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Speaker 1: giving you all the latest you know, video of practice

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Speaker 1: take a segment of a competitive period of practice and

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00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: talk about it, talk about the players involved. Really good

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Speaker 1: Fire or Roku. All right, so let's talk about John Fossil,

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00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 1: Special Teams Coordinator. UM. Yesterday he started, not started his portion.

756
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: There was actually a little part before then. We were

757
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: talking about his dad, really emotional stuff but then we

758
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: got into some of the conversations. Um, you guys are

759
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 1: more into the whole protocol of the media. Nobody likes

760
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 1: to talk about that stuff more than us. That's fair. Well,

761
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is, you guys have unwritten rules. It's

762
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 1: like baseball, right, you guys have unwritten rules about you know,

763
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: the enders and all that kind of stuff, which I

764
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: really don't get involved in. I think the thing about it,

765
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: and Jory even said it, Jory Epstein said it. You know,

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00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: it's hard to kind of shift to football after that,

767
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: but you know, that's that's how the press conferences sometimes.

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00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: I thought it was, you know, it's it's the first

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Speaker 1: time we've seen him since his father passed away, and

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00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 1: give him a chance to talk about it. And I'd

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00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: rather have it come at the beginning or the end

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00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: than ask five football questions get yeah, yeah, yeah, And

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00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: so you know, I thought it was. It was nice.

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00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: He had some very very complimentary things, obviously to say

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Speaker 1: about his dad and his relationship with his dad, and

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00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: so I thought it was it was well done, interesting stuff.

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00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: If you hadn't heard, he can go back and check

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00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: it out. But that being said, the conversation then moved

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00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: to long snappers. And I'll speak for myself. I was

780
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: under the impression going into this offseason that it was

781
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 1: almost a no brainer that LP Lattiser would return as

782
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: their long snapper. He'd been in forever. I don't think

783
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: he was a bad long snapper. I thought he was

784
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: good at what he did. But they made the decision

785
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: to move on to Jake McQuaid. And the question was

786
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: asked about what the primary reason was for that, And Nick,

787
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: I liked your follow up question because you asked him, so,

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00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: what makes a good long snapper? What was his answer

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00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: and how is that relevant to what he was talking

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Speaker 1: about or do you think it's relevant to what he

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00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: was talking about with why they went with McQuaid, I

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00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: don't remember the answer. And once he said that was

793
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: a good question, I was patting myself on the back

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Speaker 1: and I totally just didn't understand. No, I'm kidding. He

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00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: he said, throwing the ball back is line one. You know,

796
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: Garrett would say everyone can throw the ball back, And

797
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 1: seriously watch college football. I mean, how many bad snap

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00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: Steve really see it happens. But the guys that are

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00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: training they can do it. That's not what it's about

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00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: it's about protections, it's about understanding where where the where

801
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 1: the rush is coming from. And then it's also about

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00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: getting in lanes. It's not just running down the field

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00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: and making tackles. It's also staying in your lane and

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00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: making sure across the you know the line, that you're good.

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00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 1: And now he's not the first one down, but he's

806
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 1: LP was down there enough to you know. So you

807
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: gotta have some athleticism to do that. I gotta have

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00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: some understanding. And more than anything, did you hear what

809
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: he said about what Jake Jake mcquaido think wants to

810
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: be a linebacker. Okay, he's not one he wants to

811
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: be though he understands. He still does reps and stuff

812
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,439
Speaker 1: to tackle because he still got to do it. Didn't

813
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: see LP doing that. And I'm not gonna throw out

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Speaker 1: you said LP was a good snapper. LP was a

815
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: phenomenal snapper. He had no bad snaps in seventeen years

816
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: of phenomenal snapper. Now, maybe what Fossil's trying to do

817
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: in some other things, Jake McQuaid fits better. He's had

818
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: him before. They both were free agents. He picked the

819
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: one that you like and he said, I think LP

820
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: has some ball left in him. Even though no one

821
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 1: assigned him. He said, I think mcquait's got a lot

822
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: of football left in him. So you know, he went

823
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: from forty to thirty two thirty three. You know, that's

824
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's what it was. But it was

825
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: it was just more to it than just you know,

826
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: because they're all gonna be perfect and snaps knock on wood.

827
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Speaker 1: I thought that that last part was interesting to me, Okay.

828
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: I mean people were all curious and up in arms

829
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: about that when it happened, and I was like, well, yeah,

830
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: I mean, coaches bringing their guys all the time, and

831
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: just you don't see him fire the longest tenured player

832
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: and team history very often. But I think you know,

833
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: McQuaid has been to two Pro Bowls, he's clearly really

834
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: good at what he does. And you're weighing it and

835
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: you're saying, Okay, the credentials are similar enough that this

836
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: makes sense if you like him more whatever. And mcquaid's

837
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: thirty three, LP's forty, So I mean if you can

838
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: get and what LP got here during parcels, yeah, and

839
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: stayed through. He was here from Bill Parcels to Mike McCarthy.

840
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: So if Jake McQuaid catches on here, he could be

841
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 1: the long snapper for the next four or five coaches

842
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: who will be running this department. By the It's entirely possible.

843
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: Wasn't who's next? The next coach? Man? That's sure of

844
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 1: David Kellen Moore? You know, let me say this. Oh

845
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: and I really don't want to transition into that with

846
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Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, talk about like next coach, I'm not saying yet.

847
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: When Kellen Moore was getting talked about being the coach

848
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: at Boise State, I'll be honest, I look at him

849
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: and I don't see head coach. Why I don't, Well,

850
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: I just didn't. I didn't see it a personality why

851
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: standing up there all that. I didn't really see it

852
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: out of Mike Zimmer either. And he's been a really

853
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: good coach and on that. You don't have to be

854
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: of this charismatic, you know, Jerry Glanville type, you know whatever,

855
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: all the time. Yesterday I saw it more with Kellen

856
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: than I've ever seen before. I thought he had a

857
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: lot more presence up there command. I thought he was

858
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: really insightful with this thing. You're joking a little bit,

859
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, even kind of knowing his strength,

860
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: knowing that he's not the going to be the star

861
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 1: of HBO hard knock, which might make him the star

862
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: of heart you know when you do that. But I'm again,

863
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is new head, next head coach

864
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: of Cowboys anything like that. I just think I could

865
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: see head coaching material for him for some team or

866
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: college pro whatever, you know. I just I mean, the

867
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: guy that brought him here is it's the same guy.

868
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: Like Kellen Moore was a better quarterback than Jason Garrett,

869
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: but like far better, far better. But it's it's like

870
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: uncanny to me, Like I win in college ye college? Yeah, Okay,

871
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying no, no, in the NFL. Both of them

872
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: are backups in the NFL. But in college he was

873
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: far better winning his college quarterback ever had a really

874
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: great Thanksgiving game. I mean, I don't know. I'm just

875
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: saying the way Garrett led them back against Dartmouth. I

876
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: missed that game too, but I bet he did. I

877
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: bet he beat harder. I think you know, Kellen, you

878
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: know kind of very smart guys, know a ton about football.

879
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: Former quarterback offensive minded didn't have an amazing NFL career

880
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: both War seventeen. By the way, new when to get hurt,

881
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: to get out of the way so dat could get in. Yeah,

882
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: great point. I think Kellen's a little more comfortable showing

883
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: his personality, but not all the way, Like he doesn't

884
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: like that stuff. He'll grow into that. Yeah, but like

885
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: but you know, um you remember you've seen the commercials

886
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 1: that he does in Idaho, right, like it's there. He's

887
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: got one. Yeah, yeah, like Romo, like that same thing.

888
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: He'd show you something very different here than what his

889
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: real personality. He doesn't like to put it on display,

890
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: but it's there. But I, uh, he got me, he

891
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: threw me off, he got me, got all sides. But

892
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,479
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I have no idea what he just said.

893
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: But I have something, something, something, This is going to

894
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: be so much fun a program that hasn't won something

895
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: since the Bush. Here we go, Here we go, Here

896
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 1: we go anyway. Texas are so excited about it either

897
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: because we get to recruit without that being held over

898
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: our heads. That's why I'm excited about it. Tech and

899
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: Baylor were given some you know, some tough games. Don't

900
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: care about that, Like that's irrelevant. What I care about.

901
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: Is we get to recruit without the SEC being held

902
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: over our head. That's lost your number one quarterback recruit

903
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: to the Big ten. It doesn't matter the SEC. But

904
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter right now. Nobody wants to big But

905
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 1: by the way, the Big ten is just as good

906
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: as the SEC right now, as far as the reputation,

907
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: nobody's saying, well, you want to go into play in

908
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: the SEC or like either one of those are comparable.

909
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 1: You don't You don't hear the actually good program Oklahoma

910
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: making all this noise. They're just like, yeah, we'll play

911
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: well whatever, we'll do it and not true, not true.

912
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: Nobody cares about listening anyway. Get back to the Cowboys.

913
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: So what were you saying, Dave, Sorry, I don't remember. Oh,

914
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: I think I mean. Kellen Moore just reminds me a

915
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: lot of Jason Garrett, I think, is what I was

916
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: trying to say. And actually he was ironic that you

917
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: said that, Nick, because yesterday, as I was standing there

918
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: watching Kellen Moore, I was thinking to myself, you know,

919
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: he kind of fits the part of a of a coach,

920
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: like I can see him standing he was standing there,

921
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: he was taking the questions, he was fairly engaging with

922
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: the questions with his answers. I thought, actually he did

923
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: present for me yesterday as a as what a coach

924
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: would be. Well, all three coach guys were up there.

925
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn has been a head coach, he's coaching Quins

926
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: on the whole of the Yeah, he's on a different level.

927
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: John Fossil was an interim coach for a couple of games. Um,

928
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: he's a very good at his craft. His dad, as

929
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: he talked about, has been a coach in the Super Bowl.

930
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: He understands how that works. And Kellen Moore, I think

931
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: is on his way as well. And Kellen Moore's dad

932
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: was a coach righted him, coached him in high school.

933
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: So you know, this is a very well rounded, uh

934
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: group of coordinators and not just coordinators. But you don't

935
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: look on the staff again, how many guys have been

936
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: a head coach and the last year it was five.

937
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: This year it's maybe four again with the been a

938
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: head coach at some point. Kellen Moore, I'm not Kellen Moore,

939
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 1: but h Quinn, those three and Phil billman Um mcadoo's

940
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: on the staff now ye've been a coach, so you

941
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: know they they've got guys that that can, you know,

942
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: hopefully help McCarthy if needed when you know, just for

943
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: different things that that pop up. Yeah, which I'm not

944
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to stir up drama at all. I'm

945
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: not suggesting Kellen Moore has ulterior motives. But I don't

946
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: think you turned down the head job at your program

947
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 1: where you're a god to just be NOC in the NFL.

948
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: You know, No, But I do think you turn it

949
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: down if your expectation. And yes, I agree with what

950
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: he's saying. Yeah, the one thing I will say is

951
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: I don't think he necessarily has designs on this head

952
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: coaching job. I think he looked at it, That's my point.

953
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: But he's like, if you're gonna get in college football,

954
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: you go to Boise. Yeah, exactly, that's where he wins

955
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: exactly right, which he loves Boise. But he's like, I've

956
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: got higher aspirations than Boys State. And let's be clear,

957
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: if this offense plays the way that we all expected

958
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: to play this year, and let's assume for a second,

959
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: then maybe they get with that some team success. He's

960
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: gonna be a hot commodity next year as far as

961
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: head coaching jobs are concerned in the NFL. If this

962
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: offense is as good as it should be, he's gonna

963
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: be you know, he'll be in that you know, there's

964
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: always that circle of coordinators that's you know, it's been

965
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: the enemy for forever. At this point, he'll be he'll

966
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: be on that list if this offense is where it's

967
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: supposed to be. Absolutely all right, We appreciate you guys,

968
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: John Us. We'll be back tomorrow a lot more to

969
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: talk about Cowboy. I'm sorry. We'll be back on Monday tomorrow.

970
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: We'll be talking Cowboys. We'll have these practices today and

971
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: tomorrow we'll be able to recap those four you and

972
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: give you some insight as to what we're seeing out

973
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: here in Oxnard. Till then, for Nick Eatman, Dave Hellman,

974
00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 1: I am Derek Eckelton. This has been The Break live

975
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a

976
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 1: production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys

977
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:11,000
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