WEBVTT - Drive Time: Raiders Perspective with Ted Nguyen 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:04.480 To the move Darling Deep Speedways Past Hell. 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:09.360 From the Baptist Health Studio. This inside the Baptist Help 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:14.680 Training Complex. This is Drive Time with Travis Wingfield. 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:19.400 He's got my hands in the playoffs. 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:29.720 What is up Dolphins and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast. 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:32.720 I am your host, Travis Wingfield. On today's show, we 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:36.440 have a busy loaded episode for you. Ted Winn from 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:38.920 the Athletic and the Just Win podcast is going to 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:40.960 get you caught up on all the latest about the 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:44.159 Las Vegas Raiders. And then, as I do every single Friday, 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:47.720 Kyle Crabs joins me. I love the conversation I had 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:51.560 with Kyle on this podcast talking about the Dolphins now, 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:53.560 in the future and the direction of the team. Really 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:55.880 good chat with him talking about college ball as well. 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:58.480 I'll also make the week eleven picks from the Baptist 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:01.000 Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:07.319 This is the Draft Time Podcast. Real quick. 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:09.320 If you have not seen this, if you are only 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:13.000 a podcast fan and not on social media apps at all, 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:16.760 or maybe the former Twitter app, get at me on 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:17.360 Blue Sky. 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:19.720 Really enjoying my time over there. So far. 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:24.000 People are nice. It's not a bunch of crap talk 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:26.640 to you at all times. So I'm enjoying that kind 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:32.240 of re energizing my feelings about social media that have 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:34.360 gone completely off the rails the last few years. Let's 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:36.240 go ahead and pick this thing up with my chat 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:39.039 with the great Ted Win. So the Raiders are in town, 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:40.560 and you know what that means. I have to bring 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:42.840 in my friend today on the podcast, Ted Winn from 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:45.479 the Athletic. He joins us here from the Baptist Health 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:48.760 Studios on Dolphins HQ as well as the Draft Time podcast. 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:51.160 You can find him on the Just Win podcast as 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:53.520 well of all of his written content on the Athletic 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:56.480 dot com. Ted Winn, Welcome back in, Ted man, how. 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:58.840 You doing done great? Thanks for having me on. 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:00.040 We're happy to have you. 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:02.560 It's Dolphins and Raiders week, which means you're here with 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:03.880 us on the show as we do I think for 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:06.400 the last like five or six years now. But Ted, 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:09.600 before we get into Sunday's matchup here at hard Rock Stadium, 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:12.400 you know, you break down film all over the league, 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:14.119 and I want to ask you a general question before 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:17.040 we get into the matchup here and scrolling your timeline, 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:19.359 I've noticed that you've been like fighting the good fight 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:23.400 against this concept of the NFL product suffering this year. 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:25.080 And I just want to kind of give you a 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:27.800 platform here on our show to refute that idea that 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:30.320 the NFL is somehow, I guess regressing. 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:36.519 Yeah, I think maybe people are just confusing the idea 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.240 that maybe because scoring is not as high as it 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:44.600 used to be back in the Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.919 Drew Brees era, that you know, you would have three 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:52.040 or four guys challenging for five thousand passing yard every year, 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:56.280 and maybe that's what people kind of miss and maybe 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:58.840 they think that that's good football. But I think we're 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:02.280 just moving on to a different area where, you know, defenses. 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:04.560 I feel like we're almost in kind of a golden 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:08.040 age of defenses as far as defense is getting really 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:11.600 creative with their pressure schemes. Almost on every single play, 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:13.760 you're going to see some sort of disguise now like 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.400 that that's not how it used to be back then. Like, 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:19.160 I've talked to a lot of offensive coordinators and quarterbacks 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.679 this offseason, and a lot of them, you know, say 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:24.720 they don't know what they're looking at defensively, you know, 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:28.160 even when they're looking at film, they're not exactly sure 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:30.960 what the defense is in. Back then, it was Cover three, 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:34.359 it was Cover one, a lot of man coverage. I 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:36.280 wouldn't say it was easy to beat them, but it 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:38.200 was kind of easier to decipher. 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:40.400 Now. I just feel like. 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:43.720 Defensive coordinators do such a good job of confusing quarterbacks, 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:46.720 and I feel like we're out a good spot where 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:48.680 we have a lot of young quarterbacks. A lot of 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:51.560 the top quarterbacks are doing making plays that we've never 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:54.600 seen before, just because they're such a good mix of 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:58.520 their athletic ability, arm talent, and now they're really mastering 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:01.880 the game, like Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen. You see guys, 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:03.920 you know, like a guy like Lamar Jackson just take 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:07.640 that next step mentally combining with his physical abilities. So 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:09.480 I feel like the league's in a great place. So 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.320 I'm entertained every week. And there's a lot of close 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:14.760 games too, Like it feels like almost every game is 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.200 a one possession game. So I really don't know what 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:20.320 people are talking about when they're saying that the product 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:21.039 has diminished. 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:24.000 Yeah, the close games is exactly what I want to 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:26.360 talk about, because to me, like you turn a game 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:28.320 on with you know, ten minutes left from the game, 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:30.560 and typically you're going to get some type of you 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:33.520 know high you know, high urgency, you know, critical moment 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:35.120 type of play. And that's what makes this league so 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:37.240 fun on top of the parody that it has. And 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:39.400 to your point about those you know, Manning and Brady 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:41.320 Eras and Drew Brees and the guys that were going 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:43.960 off for five k and you know, forty touchdowns every 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:46.360 single year, I felt like that created this, like, you know, 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:48.720 a bigger divide between the haves and have nots in 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:52.039 terms of the elite quarterbacks because those guys could kill 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:54.839 those defenses even more so, and you had less parody 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:56.520 where it was like the same you know, three or 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:58.400 four quarterbacks won the Super Bowl every year, right, Is 0:04:58.400 --> 0:04:59.360 that kind of what you're getting at? 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:00.760 Yeah, exactly. 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:03.760 And you know, just because there was three or four 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:06.400 guys challenging for five thousand yards doesn't mean the overall 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:09.640 quality of quarterback play was better. There was a lot 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:12.920 of bad quarterback play in that era as well. So 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:16.640 I think there are some like we're moving towards an 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:21.440 era where there's a lot younger quarterbacks playing, and yeah, yeah, 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:23.600 the quarterback play is not gonna be that great from 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:25.920 the younger guys. But I just think at the top end, 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:27.960 we're just seeing things that we've never seen before. 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:28.279 Too. 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:30.880 Yeah, I was one of the odd ones out in 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:32.600 terms of I didn't really care for the you know, 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.240 high forties to low forties scores. I like a good 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:37.240 twenty seven to twenty four game personally. I think it 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:39.840 makes for more entertainment with both sides have a chance 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:42.680 to win their particular you know drive like a defensive 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:44.320 stop or a touchdown on the offense. 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:45.360 So good stuff. 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:47.760 I do want to pivot to a team that I 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:50.560 hope is on the verge of finding their high scoring 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:52.880 offense once again, as the Dolphins have scored twenty seven, 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:56.000 twenty seven, and twenty three points in their three games 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.280 since the return of Twu a Tongua bai Loa. And 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:00.039 you know, we're a little bit lucky here with the 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.320 timing of this taping for Dolphins and Raiders, because I 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.440 had originally asked you to do the show, and we 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:06.360 weren't sure who the quarterback was gonna be. But we 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:08.839 did get word earlier this afternoon that it will be 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:12.320 Gardner Minshew. My obligatory go Koogs mentioned here on the 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:14.880 podcast in the show that he will start on Sunday, 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:18.080 Can you take us through what his Raiders. 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:18.800 Experience has been like? 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.719 Because watching his tape, like, it doesn't seem that similar 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:23.400 to what I remember back from the Mike Leach days 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:25.760 WSU or much less even the Colt slash Yer and 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:29.279 Shane Steiken. Like, how has the benching that the three 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:31.680 times being benched this year, how has that kind of 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:33.800 impacted this offense? And what do you think the offense 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:35.160 looks like under Gardner Minshew? 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:39.559 Well, it's interesting because Gardner might break the record for 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:44.719 most benchings in one the beginning of the year, it 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.800 was kind of a battle between him and Aidan O'Connell 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:51.680 and it O'Connell is more of a timing based quarterback. 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:53.920 You guys remember seeing him last year. 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:56.960 He performed pretty well against the Dolphins defense, which was 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:58.800 playing at a pretty high level with the Vic Fangio 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:01.120 at the time, but they decided to go with the 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:05.120 Garden minshewe Minshew has a little bit more capability. He's 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:09.600 a little bit more aggressive when it comes to downfield passing. 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:14.520 But just in this offense with the offensive line struggling 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.800 as much as it has His tendency to hold the 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:21.280 ball really hurt this offense. He you know, he just 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:24.600 is not a good rhythm passer. He likes to kind 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:28.000 of hold onto the ball. He likes really clean pictures. 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:30.760 He's not great in muddy pockets. So if you can 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:32.960 protect him, then yeah, you know he's gonna be that 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:35.360 air raid quarterback that you know, passes the ball all 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:37.720 over place. He kind of saw that in with the 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:40.480 Baltimore Ravens. But as soon as he starts getting pressure, 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:43.600 that's when he starts seeing him getting in trouble, kind 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:47.480 of moving into pressure, just not seeing the field very clearly, 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:50.320 which is why he has benched so many times. And 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:52.360 you know, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:53.680 bit of a Desmond Ridder. 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:55.320 Package put in his game. 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:58.000 They as soon as they signed him, they put him 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:00.720 in in one play for his own rea, and then 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:03.240 they obviously played them a lot against the Bengals. So 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:07.960 just because Minshew's starting, I would I wouldn't you know, 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:11.240 I think the Dolphins should be prepared for Desmond Ritterer 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:12.440 option package. 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:14.400 Yeah, because it's tough to come in and get an 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:16.440 offense down what three or four weeks that he's been there, 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:19.040 So that makes perfect sense. And it's funny you mentioned 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:20.960 that because, like I was, again writing it in my 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:22.920 game preview script, I was, I was taking a look 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.560 at you know Minshew now versus what I saw at WSU, 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:28.240 and like he had that you know Leech's twelve plays 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:29.960 on a napkin, that he had that offense, he had 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:31.760 that down Patt and he played with really good timing 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:33.920 and rhythm of those offenses. But you watch him for 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:35.520 the Raiders, like you mentioned, there was a play against 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:37.800 the Chiefs down around the goal line where like he 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:39.800 ran into pressure when there was a pretty good pocket 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:41.360 on a critical fourth down play. So I'm like, I 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:44.960 don't recognize that quarterback at all. So I hopefully this 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:46.640 week he doesn't figure it out, but long term I 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:49.200 hope he does because I love Garterer Minshew. Either way, 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:52.800 the Raiders bring one of the more interesting offensive lineups 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:54.559 into the game or across the league, I should say, 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:57.040 into this game in the sense that they have really 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.040 two number one tight ends, and I think we'll get 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:00.640 Michael Mayer back this week. You can correct what I'm 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:03.560 wrong there, But between he and back Bowers, who's become 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:05.640 already a top you know, two or three tight end 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.240 in the NFL at this point, what kind of challenges 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:10.440 as an offense that does have two pillars and that 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:13.400 twelve personnel grouping, How can they challenge this Dolphins defense, 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:15.480 provided they do have Bowers and Mayor available. 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:19.000 Yeah, I think the plan coming into this year was 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:22.760 for them to be a very heavy twelve personnel team. 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:26.520 But the problem is when you can't run, block, and 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:30.040 the Raiders are actually the most inefficient running team in 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:32.240 a league. If you look at rushing success rate, their 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:35.199 bottom of league and it's not even close. So if 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:37.800 you can't run the ball, then teams aren't really going 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:39.080 to respect your tight ends. 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:41.240 So just because you put out twelve. 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:43.040 Personnel doesn't mean they're going to put their base personnel 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:45.200 with their linebackers on a field. They're going to match 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:49.120 the twelve personnel with nickel personnel. And when they match 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.760 with you with nickel personnel, you don't get those advantages. 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:55.200 You don't get those mismatches with those tight ends and linebackers, 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:58.600 which is the big problem the Raiders had. So Bowers 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:01.240 actually was a lot more sucessful when they were an 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:03.959 eleven personnel and he was just on his own and 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:08.079 he like he's blown away expectations. Like I thought he's 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.200 gonna be good, but I didn't think he was going 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:13.040 to be already one, like a top five tight end 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:15.240 just off the bat. And he's a lot better of 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:18.040 a blocker than even I gave him credit for coming 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:20.360 out of Georgia. You know, he's not going to devastate 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:22.760 guys on every play, but I would say he's an 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:25.800 above average blocker, which I think a lot of people 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:29.400 did not think he would be. Michael Mayer is a 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:32.600 guy who was a second round pick last year and 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:36.160 he really struggled in run blocking and he kind of 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:39.079 developed as a receiver as a year went along. But 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:41.400 the hope for him this year is that he could 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:45.520 really be that inline blocker that could really help out 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:48.240 Bowers on the outside so he doesn't have to stay 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:50.800 in a block all the time. And we didn't have 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:53.719 enough of a sample size this year because he just 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:55.920 didn't play that much this year to see if that 0:10:56.200 --> 0:11:01.320 was true. So he is active and been backup practice. 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:02.840 I don't know if it's been confirmed that he's going 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:06.320 to be playing this game just yet, but the biggest 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:08.880 thing for Michael Mayer is if he can develop at 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:12.400 the blocker, because, like I said, they really need the 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:15.839 defense to respect the run game for twelve person out 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:19.360 the Raiders twelve personnel to really be as efficient and 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:20.640 explosive as can be. 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:23.160 Yeah, Okay, that tracks, and the fact that he hasn't 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.120 been you know, in the game recently probably makes it 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:27.480 tougher to implant him, especially with you know, a change 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:29.920 of oc as well. There so lots of new for 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:31.800 the Raiders coming into this game. The Dolphins trying to 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:33.360 find their groove as they look to get to four 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:34.800 and six and kind of back into the mix of 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:36.960 things here to kind of finish up on that side 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:37.560 of the football. 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:39.439 I was telling you before he got in the air. 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:43.280 Here, Ted writ's really good, complex in depth detailed stories 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:46.200 on schemes and coaches and different things that teams do 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:48.320 across the league. And you had a great piece about 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:50.480 Patrick Graham's defense, and I'll talk about here in just 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:52.160 one second, but I want to talk about the Dolphins 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:56.200 defense because we got one of the many offshoots of 0:11:56.240 --> 0:12:00.559 the Mike McDonald defensive tree from Baltimore last year, and 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.280 reviews are in so far. We love Anthony weaver Man, 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:05.040 what have you noticed about his defense and how they've 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:06.720 been able to do a lot about what you talked 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:08.880 about with Patrick Graham, where he can consistently change the 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:12.840 picture post nap with different checks in and disguises. 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:16.800 Yeah, I've watched the TV copy of the game. I 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:19.000 didn't really get a chance to break down anty we 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:21.200 Rece defense, especially to Rams, yet I did see a 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:24.439 few plays. But you know, I think the main thing 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:27.160 with the McDonald defense is it does take a little 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:30.760 bit of time to really learn. But once once you 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:34.520 learn it, then you could take off because initially you 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:37.040 have to learn. The big thing with this defense is 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:39.559 you have to learn everybody else's job jobs, so you're 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:41.440 not just learning your job, you're learning what this guy 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:44.000 does because they want to be able to just move 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:45.920 guys around. They want to be able to run a 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:49.199 ton of different things from the same front. So once 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:52.280 you get that down and you understand each concept as 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:55.240 a whole, then you can really start mixing and matching 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:58.360 and playing fast. And I think that's where the point 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:01.840 that the Dolphins are arriving at. McDonald's defense really struggled 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:05.760 when he first got to Baltimore. But then after I 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:08.080 think after the bye week, that's where they started taking off. 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:11.040 And I think we're seeing a silver thing in Miami 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:13.640 where the defense is really starting to learn the system 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:16.960 and learning how to mix and match, and then now 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:20.000 you can really confuse quarterbacks and really play those games. 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:21.880 Yeah, it was really fun to watch because they were 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.400 able to wheel like Cater Coohoo for instance, to play 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:26.000 the slot. He wheel back into one of the half 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:28.679 field responsibilities in the deep you know, the covered show, 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:30.600 And they were using Javon Holland all over the field 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:32.480 down on the fit as a rusher, and just lots 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:33.800 of fun stuff. I think you'll have a good time 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:35.160 watching that tape when you get to it. And not 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:38.120 to mention Jordan Brooks, my goodness, he is bawn out 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:38.520 right now. 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:39.280 How about the. 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:41.840 Other side of the ball here, Ted, because the Raiders, 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:43.680 you know, I'm curious how they want to attack to it, 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:45.840 because they had one of the better showings in terms 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:47.920 of holding Miami last year when they were going, you know, 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.360 for thirty points every week about they held them to 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:52.440 just twenty points in that game. And you know, we 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:54.880 see teams commit to keeping the roof on the defense 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:57.480 against Miami, like even more so than ever before. What 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:59.719 do you think that Patrick Graham has cooked up in 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:01.840 this for an ascending Dolphins offense. 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:07.439 Yeah, I think we'll see some similar themes from the 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:10.840 Rams game. When I talked to Patrick Graham about last 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:14.000 year's game, he talked a lot about emphasizing stopping the 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:18.040 outside runs, forcing them to be inside run team, and 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:22.960 changing the pictures in different ways against it. You know, like, 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:27.040 for example, this is very nuanced, but when you rotate 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.680 the safety downs at the box, usually as a weak 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:32.440 side rotation, but they would switch it up onto it 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:36.040 and go strong side rotation, and you know, just having 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:38.320 him pause for that extra little half a second so 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:41.280 he doesn't get that timing passed down work for them. 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:43.360 So I think we'll see some of that. The Rams 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:45.120 did a pretty good job. I think they played a 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:48.520 lot of just regular cover two, but those linebackers were 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:51.840 just inside the hash marks and just making sure not 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:54.240 to give up those inside breaking routes and forcing him 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:55.960 to throw outside. And two actually did a really good 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:59.480 job of extending plays and getting the secondary to break 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:01.840 down a little bit, which we we haven't seen a 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:03.520 lot of him do a lot of. But he did 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:06.200 a great job of it against the Rams, So I 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:08.040 think we'll see a lot of that. 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:10.960 I think we'll see a lot of games up front, 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:11.880 you know. 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:15.440 I think the weakness of this Dolphins off the line 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:18.560 is just the interior and some of the communication with 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.760 the interior and Max Crosby's so good on those stunts. 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:25.720 So I think we'll see a lot of games late 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:30.120 in the later passing downs. And yeah, I think we'll 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:34.080 see a lot of wide nines. You know, maybe we'll 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:37.280 see linebackers walked up to the edge. They do that 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:41.000 a lot with Divine Diabolo, the inside linebacker, where they'll 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:42.920 have the line shift one way and they'll have Diabolo 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:45.080 play up on the line in the two point stance. 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:47.480 And against this run game, you know, I think we'll 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:48.120 see a lot of that. 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:49.560 Yeah, it's uh. 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:52.040 It was a challenging second core for the Dolphins against 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:53.640 that Rams attack. And to your point, I mean they 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:55.160 they had to work in a new right tackle in 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.320 that game, and Kendall Lamb as Austin Jackson missed his 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:59.400 first game of the year, and then Rob Jones had 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:01.720 to exit right halftime tooously, so they were down two 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:05.280 linemen that can obviously always cause confusion with your communication and. 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:06.280 How you pick those things up. 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:08.280 Just real quick before my last question here, Ted, I'm 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:10.720 curious because I was looking at True Media and the 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:14.800 usage of different defensive personnel packages, and it had Nickel 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:16.960 for the Raiders at like sixty percent, dime was it 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.880 like eight percent? And then they didn't have any percentages 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:23.920 for any base packages or for dime or even or 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:26.840 quarter defense. And I'm curious, like, what does it look 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:28.680 like from a pre snap of lineman? Is it the 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:30.840 old Patrick Graham that I knew from twenty nineteen where 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:33.280 it's a lot of seven and eight defensive back packages. 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:37.840 I think the problem is the Raiders don't have a 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:39.880 lot of good linebackers, so they don't want to put 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:44.920 their base personnel on the field a lot. They had 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:47.680 Diablo who was out for a long time, and after Diablo, 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:51.000 there's really no depth of Robert Splain's a pretty good linebacker, 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:54.520 but every other linebacker that had to fill in it. 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:55.600 Just hasn't been good. 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:58.080 So when you have to put a third linebacker out there, 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:01.120 it's just not very advantageous for the Raiders. And Nate 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:03.680 Hobbs is one of the Raiders' best players, and he's 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:08.119 the nickel and he's a very physical slot defender, so 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.119 I think they feel like he you know, he's he 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:13.320 could hold up against a run. So yeah, I think 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:16.320 we're gonna see a lot of nickel. They did play 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:21.960 with some three safety packages when Marcus Epps was healthy, 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:25.560 but Marcus Epps out for the season, so pal Maw 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:28.160 their third safety is now starting safety. So I don't 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.800 think we'll see a lot of three safety or big 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.399 nickel looks. I think, you know, nicol is probably the 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:37.720 personnel package you'll you'll see most against the Dolphins. 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:39.560 All Right, interesting to take a look at that and 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:41.680 see if alec ingolds available to because he changes the 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:43.440 way this Dolphins offense runs big time. 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:44.760 Ted, appreciate your time, man. 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:47.200 I think I just realized that just Win podcast is 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:48.400 actually a play on your last name. 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:49.800 That was intentional, Right. 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:51.600 No, it isn't. 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:55.000 I actually voted on a different name and my podcast 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.080 hosts one of that name, and I was like, all right, 0:17:57.080 --> 0:17:57.879 that works with me. 0:17:57.920 --> 0:17:59.160 It kind of sounds like my last name. 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:01.400 So yeah, you could have spelled with the last win. 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:03.200