1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: I had a cool Hurt moment one time. I've seen 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: cool Hurt in the Lower east Side. Man and it's 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: raining outside. He's like this big dude, if you'll see coolberk. 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: He's like six something. Probably he's walking away. He disked 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: me as something and I was like, yo bok, but 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: what about the culture? As he's walking away, he turns 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: around and he looks at me, look funk the culture 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: And I was like, Oh, that was the hell ship 9 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: of everything that invented the coaches And he's like, fun 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: the culture. The culture ain't payby for ship. I'm starving 11 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: out here. The culture definitely my crown ships in your 12 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: man's racists money stuff. I can't tell me. Oh there 13 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: is ladies and gentlemen there it is. Everybody. Welcome to 14 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: another exceptional episode of My Mama told me in the 15 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: podcast where we Died Deep, we should be lunk into 16 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: the world of black conspiracy theories and we work to 17 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: prove that Tia and Tamara are not identical twins. We 18 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: all know which one is objectively cuter than the other, 19 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: and the answer is Taj Taj Maori is the cutest 20 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: of those three. It's honey, it's not even a debate. 21 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 1: He's gorgeous. Sure, he's in his thirties and he didn't 22 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 1: get any bigger than he used to be as a child. 23 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: But that boy is cute. He's a cute pie. And 24 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: it needs to be heard, it needs to be said, 25 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: it needs to be announced. I'm coming in hot today, baby, 26 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: I'm feeling good. I'm taking down the Maori Twins for 27 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: some reason. I don't know what my agenda is. I'm 28 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: your host, Legs and Kerman is always I'm excited to 29 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: be here. I'm having a phenomenal day. There's apparently a 30 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: new white woman out here pretending to be a black 31 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: and I'm excited about it. Her name is Jessica Crue 32 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: and she's Rachel dolas On. And we needed this. I 33 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: think we needed to re up on Rachel. Rachel had 34 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: sort of fallen to the wayside, and we forgot that 35 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: Rachel was a problem. But here comes Jessica Crue, who 36 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: worked her way up to become a professor in African 37 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: American studies somewhere in Kansas. Good for her and good 38 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 1: for us. We got something to be mad about, and 39 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: I love it. You know who's never mad is my 40 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: guest today, I can say that with almost certainty. He's 41 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: never mad. He's one of the most positive, uplifting humans 42 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: that I've ever had the pleasure of interacting with. On 43 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: top of that, he's funny as ship goddamn hysterical. You 44 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: know him from Comedy Central, you know him from Amazon. 45 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: You know him as the Bronx whisper, the man that 46 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: lets you know what the funk is happening in the 47 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: b X. He's still alive, and he wanted me to, 48 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: let you know, give it up for my guests. Mr 49 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: Pete the eyebrow, Yo, yo, share your shout out to 50 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: all of everybody in attendance. Hell yeah, they're ready, they're excited, 51 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: you're here. Thanks for having me. You know what I'm saying. 52 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: It's real professional. I like to be involved with professional things. 53 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: That's right. How you living man? Doing good? Brother? You 54 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: know I'm shout here, surviving man. Try and avoid these droplets, 55 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: you know. Now I gotta go into a whole another bag. Now, 56 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: I gotta go performing somebody's driveway. Otherwise I don't know 57 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do. I was in the public pod 58 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: yesterday performing by like a public pool. The pool was closed, 59 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: but it was like seven people in the audience. It 60 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: was like twenty people like far right doing yoga. It 61 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: was like, you know, I mean twenty more people on 62 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: the other side doing yoga. And I'm talking about like, yo, man, 63 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm just happy to be here. I'm talking about homeless 64 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: dude asking me for money on the train with no 65 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: maskball and I'm like, nigga, I ain't gonna pay you 66 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: for the rona. But you know what's right, listen, listen. 67 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: If you're gonna give it to me, give it to 68 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: me for free. I'm not about to tip the biggest 69 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: that's the biggest sucker move. You give your paying for 70 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: some ship that's free. Right. Come on, brother, let me 71 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: let me get a dollar so I could give you 72 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: a disease that's gonna ruin your life. I wasn't gonna 73 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,799 Speaker 1: go outside until they started killing when they started killing 74 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: black people. When they was like they kept killing us, 75 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: I was like, fucking man, the cops gonna kill me. 76 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: The guy will given about drop right, you take me. 77 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: I was I didn't kid. I was sad. I was 78 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: like I can't do it. I can't do what I 79 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: got it. That's the thing is like, once you get 80 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: people out in the streets and rage. They're not gonna 81 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: like go back in you know what I mean. We 82 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: ain't about to yell about stop murdering us and then 83 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: follow your your procedures. It's like I can't tell you 84 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: a conspiracy real quick that I had just after jo it. 85 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: So you know the six feet ship, right, Dr Fucci 86 00:04:55,160 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 1: was like six ft right, so pete, so pete. So 87 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, your who measures the six ft? You feel me? 88 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: Because it's like the droplets to spit when you talk, 89 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: when you sneeze, they measuring six feet from like when 90 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: you talk, right, but like you know that's from the 91 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: white man's lips though, sure, so the white man, I'm 92 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: gonna stop you right there. That's how they get you. 93 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: I'm listening, go ahead, right, so the white man like 94 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: six ft boom, but you know our lips is different. 95 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: You feel me, Like we say things, so I spit 96 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: goes further, you feel me. So that's how they're trying 97 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: to have the numbers crazy in the hood. And because 98 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: we used world we say bitch hass like bit goes further, 99 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: like where you say bitch hass, that's further. The six 100 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: feet bro Like now you're saying something I'm fascinated by. 101 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: This is a devastating revelation that I had not considered. 102 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: You're saying that the way that we speak and the 103 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: way that black people's mouths are shaped, in fact, makes 104 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: it so that our spit flies further than six feet, 105 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: and this six feet is merely a protection for the 106 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: white lip, the white mouth in its spread, and the 107 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: white community. Wow, listen, if true, that is devastating information. 108 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: The numbers spiked in all of the in the hoods, Like, 109 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: it's like, how does she at least spiking in the 110 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: hoods A bunch of dudes. They were still roasting, but 111 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: from six ft and they still six feet. But in fact, 112 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: he wasn't lucky at all. This motherfucker needed to be 113 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: eight feet because of them big gass roasting and lips yos. 114 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: That's going across the street properly is going a block away. Damn, 115 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: this is big. I gotta write a governor. Or. I 116 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: don't I don't know that I can trust him, but 117 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: I gotta write somebody that's gonna be able to solve 118 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: this for me. I want to all trusting Fucci, and 119 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: now Fucci where he had come even on the check 120 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: it though, boy, like a quick check in on Facebook? 121 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: What was that that app where you used to tell 122 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: people your location for no reason at all? Four square? 123 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: You don't even four squares to be like Dr fauci 124 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: Is or fucci is that. I love that you got 125 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: him on It's wild, but I fucking love that conspiracy. 126 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: But you brought to me a conspiracy that we have 127 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: to jump into it. I don't want to lose any 128 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: time on this, but you brought to me a conspiracy 129 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: that I think is equally fascinating and complicated and a 130 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: lot more philosophical, I think than any of the other 131 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: conspiracy theories that we've had on this show. You said, 132 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: and I want to get this right. My mama told 133 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: me potty and hard times make everything better. M tell 134 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: me more struggle, man, you know, not not the struggle 135 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: when they say the struggle is real, because those people 136 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: struggling really talking about you know what I'm saying ruggle, 137 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: Like you know how they say hand me down clothes? 138 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: What about hand me down struggle? Saying generation? But it's like, 139 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: you know, the good stuff come out of the struggle 140 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: as far as like you get crazy results from hardships. 141 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like food type of ship, 142 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: Like I don't even like fried chicken. If the person 143 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: who made it never struggle, you feel me, it don't taste. 144 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: There's that restaurant in Brooklyn that everybody who is a 145 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: gentrifier tells you, Pies and Thighs, where they're like, oh, 146 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: you gotta go to Pies and Thighs because that's the 147 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: best fried chicken in all of Brooklyn, And it's like, no, listen, 148 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's fine fried chicken. I'm sure they did 149 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: their best given their circumstances. But the reality is these 150 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: are a bunch of trust fund kids who figured out 151 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: how to fried chicken. But here's the thing, right, I 152 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: thought about this earlier too. You can duplicate the results 153 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: of what comes out of the struggle. You can't duplicate 154 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: the struggle, you know what I'm saying. You could duplicate 155 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: the results like they can find some fried chicken and 156 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: send it to ancestry dot com and I'm saying, get 157 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: all the fucking ingredients back the batter, you know what 158 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And now they stole a whole box. They 159 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: don't know what it's like to conjure it up from pain. 160 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: You want to, like, imagine you making chicken, but like, 161 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: not only are you making chicken, you're trying to mean something. Yeah. 162 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 1: Well that's the thing is like you can figure out 163 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: all the things, but part of what made the chicken 164 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: good was that the grease popped and they landed on 165 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: somebody's skin and it burned a little bit, and that 166 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: skin particle got into the chicken and made it gave 167 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: it personality. But you can't do that and it has 168 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: matched suit, you know what I mean? Like y'all are 169 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: showing up and treating this like science, when in fact 170 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: it's a lived experience. You know when the fry that 171 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: chicken and they used their fucking fingers in the oil, Bros. Yeah, 172 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: you know when they put those fingers in the oil 173 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: because those fingers been through so much. Yeah, I think 174 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: it's don't even got feel And for the nerve ending 175 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: snowboard turned around, flipping up. I want to taste the 176 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: lady named Roberta's fingers in my chicken. And if Roberta's 177 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: fingers ain't in there, it ain't good chicken. Yo. All right. 178 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: There's a spot in Brooklyn called Brooklyn soul full Kitchen 179 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: m been in since like the seventies, not asked, but 180 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: it's in the middle of Flatbush. You know what I say, 181 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: you gotta go. I'm saying you gotta go with They're 182 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: not really gentrifying that the best fried chicken. And to 183 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: your point, that also is an earned experience. It's an 184 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: experience that we might say comes with a struggle. You 185 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: gotta get off that train and you gotta make a 186 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: walk through a neighborhood that you may or may not 187 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: be comfortable in to get to that chicken. You gotta 188 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: be able to order that food, sit down in that place, 189 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: and then get yourself back. That's chicken you've earned. That's 190 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: chicken that comes with a story. It's not just something 191 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: that can be mass produced for a bunch of white 192 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: kids in a New Brooklyn or just because it's like 193 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: Sweet Chick, where it's like, you know, it's fried chicken, 194 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: but they got nineties hip hop plan. So you feel 195 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: like you've been through some ship, like you ain't been 196 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: through nothing because you're paying twenty dollars for a time 197 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: man funk out of here, Man Bell the vote didn't 198 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 1: give you the experience. This is how I know. This 199 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: is how I know if your chicken is legit. If 200 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: people look at me like an alien, if I try 201 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: to haggle the price of the chicken, I don't want 202 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: the chicken there in the first place. If there's somebody 203 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: is line, it's like, yeah, that's like that ship is good. 204 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: It's good, right because they know that they probably were 205 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: going to give you some shitty thime, mate, and uh 206 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: it is what it is. Yeah, all right, we'll negotiation. Struggle, struggle, 207 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: want to sweat, That's what I would thinking, like you 208 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: said that the skin, but like also sweat from the 209 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: struggle and the pain in the years of suffering. That 210 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: when they in that kitchen and mom and them making 211 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: that chicken in and that little bit of that be 212 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 1: the sweat drips off from the eyebrow that because it 213 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: slowed down the forehead today eyebrow drips in the batter. 214 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: Now you got a whole another season and right there 215 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: that you, Mrs Dash, don't got that. That's a new 216 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: sult that they ain't hitting yet, And that's paying equity salt. 217 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: I love that though. That's that's a delicious sult. It's 218 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: a tragically earned sult. But to taste great. Okay, let 219 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: me ask you, this is this a theory that you 220 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: feel like you discovered on your own? Was it handed 221 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: down to you? Where do you think this came from. 222 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: This's just come from paying attention. I'm saying, it's comes 223 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: from just looking around, like Okay, this is where I'm from. 224 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: This is what it is. This is like the facts, 225 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: all the proof is there, Like I can go back, 226 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 1: like even like what the fool with sports, with fashion, 227 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: with music, with everything? You know what I'm saying, Like, 228 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: it's just the struggle is at the epicenter of the ship. 229 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: Look at hip hop, look at music. I'm from the Bronx. 230 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: Came from the Bronx. They wasn't trying to make no 231 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: money out that ship. It was just like like something. 232 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: So they didn't knock each other's head off, no more right. 233 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: It was some dudes who were otherwise boared on a 234 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: corner then deciding like I well, we either fight about 235 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 1: some ship and sort of like air our feelings out 236 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: in a completely unhealthier way, or we just spit, we 237 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: beat box, we do whatever, and like let that be 238 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: the way that it's almost too like, um, you know 239 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: what the hood due to we remix ship. So like 240 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: remember in the seventies, I believe in the Bronx, it 241 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: was like a lot of gangs and ship, so it 242 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: was going crazy and then it was like they broke 243 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: the gang violence up. So then the gang members started 244 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: going into like you know, getting in the hip hop ship, 245 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: Like gang members start doing graffiti, just wrapping and stuff 246 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: like that. You know what I'm saying. But that ship 247 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: came out of just nothing to fucking do, yeah, and 248 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: not having nothing. So like if you could come out 249 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: and you could rhyme, or you could paint, or you 250 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: could dance or you could DJ, it like superseded what 251 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: you was going through. So that's why I think, like 252 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: to like with the struggle, how it powers things, It's 253 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: just like you trying to supersede whatever the struggle is 254 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: with what you can do. It's like, yo, I might 255 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: be fucked up, but here's this chicken. Though you can't 256 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: even you can't even buy that type of ship, you 257 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 1: feel me right, So if I can somehow make something 258 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: that is in fact better than my sad feelings, my 259 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: sad feelings don't feel like sad feelings the same way 260 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: they were before. Not because it's like living in the present. 261 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: Almost like yo, if you can make something good in 262 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: the present right now, that ship is almost like not reality, 263 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: although it is, but for right now, you know the 264 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: pride of of wrapping or doing whatever it was. You know, 265 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: that ship came from you know, broken glass everywhere, man, 266 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: You know people passing on the stairs like they just 267 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: don't kid you know what I'm saying that I think 268 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: about that ship. You're broken glass everywhere, like they was 269 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: just breaking bottles everywhere. Well, that's the thing is like 270 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: so much of hip hop, I think now has been 271 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: turned into a type of storytelling that isn't always rooted 272 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: in the truth, you know what I mean, Like it's 273 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: like a game of telephone, right that. Like when they 274 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: were first rapping about those experiences, it literally was that 275 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: experience because they were just doing it right. It was 276 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: just that they lived experience that they wanted to share 277 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: with the world. Whereas now it's like, Okay, well We've 278 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: had generations of people talking about their lived experiences, so 279 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: now I got to make some ship up based off 280 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: of this old story that I've been hearing for generations. 281 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: But the root of it, though, is still struggled all 282 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: because it's evolved. Obviously, it's always gonna evolve. It's gonna evolved, 283 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: but where it came from, it's just a bunch of dudes, 284 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: you know that. And then it's like we mimic and remix. 285 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: So I feel like it's almost like the what's that 286 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: the West Side story, but with black people and Puerto 287 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: Ricans in the Bronx where it's like niggas ain't talking 288 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: about when you would Jake to the end is talking 289 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: about to the hips, the hop, the hip. But it's 290 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: the same fucking ship. We just add more source tie ship, 291 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: I ship or the hood makes ship, fire bro everything, 292 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: everything you can think about, the struggle, poverty, make that 293 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: ship because we got no we want to be seen, 294 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's the other ship, Like 295 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: we want to be seen so we know, like, yo, 296 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be the same. If you come in 297 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: with some fucking shoe bobs ship, well, I think that 298 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: you're hitting on something really important. Is that so much 299 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: of this is about just visibility, right that, Like the 300 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: only true source for visibility is creation. If they've stolen 301 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: all of your other resources, like if you don't allow 302 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: me to have any sort of say in any other 303 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: part of the way that like financial institutions and like 304 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: education work. Then my only way of existing even in 305 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: the world and the grand scheme of the world is 306 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: to create something. And my creation has to somehow be 307 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: better than the thing that you've deemed the best out 308 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: in the world already or just if front a lot 309 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: of the times, because like that's the rebellious of going, oh, 310 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: that's what y'all doing, that's what we're gonna do. So 311 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: it almost makes you like, even like say hip hop, 312 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: like it makes the traditional music fan when it comes out, 313 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: the niggas is angry. They don't want to hear this 314 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: fucking hippie gibberish ship. They listened to the Franks and 315 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: Natro fucking little roles all that, all that type of 316 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: ship shoot bopp do wop ship, and these motherfucker's coming 317 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: out like you like, and they're dancing differently, right. I 318 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: was about to say, they had to be a devastating 319 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: turn from like the white people were doing the foxtrone, 320 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like they were doing 321 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: a one too back and forth, and then suddenly a 322 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: motherfucker came in and slid on his knees and did 323 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: a backflip. And you're like, all right, bro, y'all ain't 324 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: playing the same game we're playing. Because I was over 325 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: here fox striding. I was chilling. Do you think he's 326 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: just doing moves jumping on the floor, humping the floor? 327 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: Bro right, and then spending on their fucking jemy curls 328 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: was crazy. Elvis became in the most famous man in 329 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: the world because he was the first white man to 330 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: use his pelvis and who stole that from? And he 331 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: stole it, that's my point. He stole that from from 332 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: from a bunch of poor people who were already using 333 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: their pelvis. They've been doing that. Yeah, it was already 334 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: a thing. And it's like, okay, well you either, like 335 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: you said, you either find a way to make it 336 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: different and create value from it, or you just don't exist. 337 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: You become invisible in the society. I said, bro, you 338 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: gotta make noise, especially like yeah, it's like all right, 339 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: well fun, they don't want me. I'm gonna do this 340 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: and like the other way and it's gonna upset people. 341 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: That's kind of like what I think. A lot of 342 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: it comes not to upset people, but it's just the 343 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: way to express yourself. You know. Hell yeah, alright, we're 344 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: gonna take a break and then we're gonna be back 345 00:18:52,400 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: with more pdd ibrew and more. My mama told me, damn, 346 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: we are bad. My man supposed to smat his meat 347 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: with this ship. Bro, what the fun? And we're back 348 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: here with more pity Drew? Who are my mama told me, 349 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: we're still talking about the possibility that true happiness is 350 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,479 Speaker 1: birth from the struggle, from these things that we have 351 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: to earn and not from these things that are simply 352 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: handed to us. We were sort of talking about the 353 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: things getting stolen. Do you think that some of that 354 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: plays its hand in the way that people define their 355 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: happiness or define sort of like the goodness that comes 356 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: out of the struggle? Uh? That should sounded mad scientifical? 357 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: Can you rephrase that? Pleast what I think I'm asking? Like, 358 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: there is real evidence that so much of what poor people, 359 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: in black people, in brown people will create is often 360 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: stolen and reappropriated for a white audience. Right, do you 361 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: think that that has its hand in how people are 362 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: able to enjoy their creation? You're saying how white people 363 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: can enjoy the thievery or how black people can enjoy 364 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: what was stolen. Oh, and that's deep. I wish I 365 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: knew the like the word to define that, yo, because 366 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: like that was like deep and mad different levels. Like 367 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: all right, so they from talk me through your thoughts 368 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: so to say, like hip hop right, like because like 369 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: to me, I feel like that's the most you know 370 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: hip hop is like because it has so many different facets, 371 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: whether fashion, art all that. Ship it's like it's under 372 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: a hip hop umbrella. So it's like, all right, it's 373 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: a multi billion dollar industry, right, cool hirt. The person 374 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: that invented hip hop, right, the motherfucker is broke, right, 375 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: he invented hip hop. He's broke, has nothing. I mean 376 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: he got probably a couple of sandwiches and you know 377 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: a few things. But you know what I'm saying. But 378 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: now it do make it easier because now it's like, 379 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: you know, like imagine the first dudes that were rapping, 380 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: how did those deals even look? It was like just 381 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: the dude that seeing some dude. They didn't even understand 382 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: what rap was, probably but they was like, yo, these 383 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: things doing it for free. We put it out, maybe 384 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: we could like make some money. We get the temperance 385 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: and we keep ninety and tell them we're keeping it 386 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: a hunted and it confused these things. It was like 387 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: that had up. So yeah out sign, well I signed, 388 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: missed to go ahead. But we enjoyed the sweat and 389 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: the pain and the blood of the pioneers. We get 390 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: to we get to benefit off of the cool hurts 391 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: or the people that didn't get any type of pay. 392 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: To your point, I think what you're saying is that 393 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: although a cool hurt is now saying fuck the culture 394 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: because of what the culture sort of left him with, 395 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: there's a generation that follows him that then gets to 396 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: enjoy the culture that he created and benefit from the 397 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: culture that he created, and then also just to pass 398 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: you don't see, but I don't know that old nig. 399 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: They think it's mad disrespectful bob, But dude, that you 400 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: like it mad disrespectful too, because you'd be like telling 401 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: the whole story, like, Yo, they jerked him whatever he's like, 402 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: shouldn't have been a dumb nigger, then yo, chill out, 403 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: bro right, I'm doing is disrespectful, Like they would have 404 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 1: known that it was um in the exact circumstances that 405 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: he was the only reason, you know, it's dumb is 406 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: because there are stories of a person making the wrong 407 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: choice and then being punished for it, you know what 408 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: happens to like the cycle is never really broken because 409 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: it's always like that's what I'm saying, the struggle. Bro. 410 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: Even with that knowledge out there, there's still gonna be 411 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: a kid that's starving somewhere that they say, Yo, listen, 412 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna look like this. You're gonna say this and 413 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna get X amount of dollars and people gonna 414 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, well, okay. So that brings me, I 415 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: think into some of the research that I impacked in 416 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: this or tried to unpack in this, and it connects directly. 417 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: And I think hip hop and jazz in a lot 418 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: of ways in terms of lack American invention, have a 419 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: very clear relationship, right, And so I was looking up, 420 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: like where did jazz come from? And apparently in a 421 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: dude named Buddy Bolden starts a band where he basically 422 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: is the first person to start playing live jazz music 423 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: and everybody yeah, and they're like, holy shit, Buddy Bowling, 424 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: this dude is great and for years he's like a 425 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: cool dude on the scene. He's like underground, but he's 426 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: flying people fucking with it. They love jazz. But then 427 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: there's all these people who claimed that jazz wasn't in 428 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: fact invented by Buddy Bolden. It was invented basically almost 429 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: twenty years later, in nineteen seventeen by this dude named 430 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: nick A Rocca. White dude, come on, who went and 431 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: made jazz and put it on record? Do you know 432 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Like, Buddy Bolden was doing some like 433 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: cool ship with his friends and playing in clubs, but 434 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: then nick Larrocca like put that ship on wax, and 435 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: now everybody's like, man, nick Larrocca, that's the guy. He 436 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: invented it. Yeah, it's real fucked up. And so it 437 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: put me in a weird place with your conspiracy because 438 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: it it makes me feel like, how much of this 439 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: do we really get to enjoy? When somebody comes in 440 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: and usurps are cool ship? Do you know what I'm saying, Like, 441 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: how much of that is still ours? If nick Larrocca 442 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: it becomes the face of jazz music? No, but you 443 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: know the real ones. No, my man, buddy, feel me, 444 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: Buddy Balding. That's why, like when you said that, I'm 445 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: like Damn, I wonder what this thing was going through 446 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: in his life. Like Buddy Bolden when he came with 447 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: the jazz. He know what I'm saying, he might have 448 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: been down on this luck. He might just came up, 449 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He might have just got 450 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: some tops, some buns or something by Shorty. You know, 451 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying he was down on his luck and you're 452 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: passing my fuck the saxophone bro, and he started playing 453 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: some ship because he felt jazzy. You know what I'm saying. 454 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,239 Speaker 1: Imagine how good you gotta get your dick stuck for 455 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: you to to pick up a trumpet and start playing 456 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: all the keys at once, just wilding on that motherfucker 457 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: because hey, that's jazz. Baby, no memthor to the madness, 458 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: it's just all it's all good. So that's like what 459 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: he was on. And then you know, my man, Now 460 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: he ain't my man, but whatever his name is now 461 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: your dear friend Nicola Rocca. See, he even tried to 462 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: steal black people swag like you know, the Rock used 463 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 1: to be a big name back in the day, rock 464 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: Scot the Rock, you know, Toddle Rock. This is always 465 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: a love rock, you know, what I'm saying. So he 466 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: came stole a whole vibe from my man's in them 467 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: because he know, my man buddy was just in the 468 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: streets shaking to shut up, right, you know what I'm saying. 469 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: That's like Ao Langston me being down at the corner 470 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: bringing your sacks. I got my trumpet, my man got 471 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: the drums. Unless like smoke some reefa something you know 472 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: what achieve achieva because it's it's nineteen hundred and that's 473 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: what that's what it's called back then. Why do you 474 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: think too, like refa madness thinks we're smoking weed doing 475 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: the jazz music, and the white people that I couldn't 476 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: understand it. It It was madness to them. It's like what 477 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: the fund is this mania? Like what is this crazy 478 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: ship going on? Yeah, it's like, yo, it's just an expression. 479 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: It's not crazy, right, And I do think that that 480 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: is such a fascinating part of the way that it 481 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: gets manipulated. Right if we think about it in terms 482 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: of like jazz and hip hop, they're both music that 483 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: start off as sort of like this cool new invention 484 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: with like a purity and an innocence to it, and 485 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: then white people started calling it devilish. They started calling 486 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,479 Speaker 1: it evil in some sort of way by associating it 487 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: with drugs and violence, and then once becomes this sort 488 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: of like weird debate about whether or not it's evil, 489 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: they jump in and start making their own version of it, 490 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: which is somehow more consumerable and safer for its audience. 491 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: That's like, look at the WAP song. Right, They just 492 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: tried to ban the WAP song bro Right, they try, 493 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: it's just dying from particles. They worrying about a wet 494 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: ass pussy with like well because of the black woman 495 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 1: and a Dominican woman had the notion to actually say 496 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: what make the world happy. Let me be very clear, 497 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: a wet ass pussy ain't hurting nobody now never once, 498 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: not not in the history of Maine. It's heard a 499 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 1: lot of feelings with nothing else but a wet ass pussy. 500 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: It's done nothing but good work in the world. And 501 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: there's no reason to ban in that. And I understand 502 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 1: if you're uncomfortable playing that around your children, but that's 503 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: a conversation you need to have that ain't got shipped 504 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: to do with those girls and the WAP. That's how 505 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: jazz was invented. I'm saying, my man, but my man, 506 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 1: buddy has some wet hopped on that trumpet. Pop down, Yeah, 507 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: he felt something. I love that. Okay. So one of 508 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: the things that I think I also found myself challenged 509 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: by in your conspiracy theory, and challenged is a weighted word, 510 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: because it's not that I disagree with it, it's just 511 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 1: I think there's complexity on the backside, right, is that 512 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: where does poverty come from specifically and is it essential 513 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: to the way that we live in society? And so 514 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: I found this article that sort of lists off all 515 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: of the benefits quote unquote benefits of poverty, and one 516 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,239 Speaker 1: of the things that they listed was, in fact, what 517 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: you're saying, the invention of culture, the invention of the 518 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: things that we celebrate. But then there's this other more 519 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: devastating side of the list that I want to just 520 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: go through with you and get your thoughts on as 521 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: we go that work absolutely hell yet. Okay. So one 522 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: of the first benefits quote unquote that they say for 523 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: poverty is like dirty work and domestic work for other people, 524 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: doing the dirty work that we as people in society 525 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: don't want to do. Of course, I mean, even like 526 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: for me like, look, when I was hustling on the 527 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: illegal side of things. If I need somebody to do 528 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: a job for me, like a foul job, I'm gonna 529 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: have my man down the block that's starving. I'm not 530 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: gonna after they're gonna have shipped the loose like he's 531 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: gonna be like, yo, you get you work with somebody 532 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: that has something to lose. As soon as the cops 533 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: pull up on them, they're like, I'll tell you everything. 534 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: I got back to my ship the loop. I never 535 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: wanted to be here, man, I will. I will give 536 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: you all you need to know. Like a poor dude. 537 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: They never gonna say I just wanted to be down. 538 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: Poor dude is gonna be like, yo, I just had 539 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: to eat. Man. You know what I'm saying you At 540 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: the beginning of Juicy, all the people that call the cops, 541 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: I was just trying to feed my daughter, he didn't 542 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: say I was just trying to cop a fucking I 543 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: was just trying to fit in with my friends. I 544 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: was hungry and my daughter was gonna starve. Absolutely. Oh 545 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: that ship is a fact. Society definitely benefits off of 546 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: poor people, and so one of the things that they 547 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: say in relation to sort of like the usage of 548 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: domestic work and sort of this dirty work is the 549 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: potential for upward mobility. That because someone is willing to 550 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: do the dirty work in society, we create a hierarchy, 551 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: right where like, because I'm not the one that picks 552 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: the oranges, I am somehow now better than the person 553 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: picking oranges and thus exists in a different kind of 554 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: cast system, even though we won't call it that because 555 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: we think we're better than that. You know what I mean, 556 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: that's classism, broact. That's like, yo, say that you had 557 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: a homeless shelter, right, even at the homeless shelter, this 558 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: is one dude or one person that thinks that, like 559 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: you know, they're above the other homeless person. Dogs. He's like, 560 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: you know, my ass stink. At least I don't smell 561 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: like as you like I'm but at least I don't 562 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: smell like feet, Like, hey, I made my bed, I'm 563 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: better than this ship. I'm gonna I'm gonna be all right. 564 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: And it's like I'm organized, Like yeah, we do that 565 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: on every level. It's not just like a homeless thing, right, 566 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: Like I'm just saying he's like showing you how low 567 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: it could go like all the way to but it's 568 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: the people who live in a suburban neighborhood and want 569 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: their lawn to look better than the person they live 570 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: next to. Y'all basically share the same space or like 571 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: in a hood like yo boom, we all live in 572 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: the same buildings. But I'm gonna get a car that 573 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: you don't have. Well, I'm gonna get some shoes sneakers 574 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: that you don't got, or I'm gonna get something, and 575 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna look at shoe like you basic. You 576 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because that ship whatever is going on, 577 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: fortified my ego, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, And 578 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: that takes me into something that they also say is 579 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: that a benefit of poverty is something called moral distancing, 580 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: which is basically this argument that we are able to 581 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: create hierarchies through the way that we associate morality and 582 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: poor people that like, poor people are thought to be 583 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: less moral than rich people like you as a poor person, 584 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: and are going to commit more crimes or be more 585 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: likely to sell drugs or do something violent, and therefore 586 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: it allows us to not only distance ourselves from the 587 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: people who are morally less than but also not feel 588 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: bad when we don't provide them with resources. It's like, oh, 589 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: y'all are acting up, so fuck it. I ain't gonna 590 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: give you money. I'm not gonna help you out. No, 591 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: because you know it's crazy because you know the systematic 592 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: ship is like they set us up to lose. You 593 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: feel me. Um, It's like it's like what we're saying earlier, 594 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: like of course the nigga with nothing to lose, it's 595 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: gonna go risk everything. I'm saying, even me, I used 596 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: to be that guy, Like I used to be the 597 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: guy like I'll risk everything because it doesn't seem like 598 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: a brighter future is around the corner. That was always 599 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: the logic I'm saying. The people doing dirt is like, 600 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: that's part of the that's the logic. It's like, you 601 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: know nothing, what's my other option? Exactly? A lot of 602 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: the time, through the poverty that I'm talking about, it's 603 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: like it's a state of mind. It's even beyond your 604 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: financial situation or whatever that is, material situation. It's about 605 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: the way you think, you know what I'm saying. So 606 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: if you think things can't get you pour mentally, like 607 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: you're poor, you're gonna stay poor until you end up 608 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: dead or in jail, you know what I mean. Yeah, 609 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: I think that also is something they sort of like 610 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: dig into, although not I think it's sharp as you're 611 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: making it. But they say that poor people sort of 612 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: bear the brunt of social disruptions. Right, So, anytime some 613 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: ship happens out in the world and they decide to 614 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: change the law around something, or they decide coronavirus great example, 615 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: they decide that, like, okay, the pandemic kicked in and 616 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: everybody needs to go quarantine inside. Poor people are the 617 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: ones that suffer from that. Their jobs get taken away. First, 618 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: they're the ones who are being policed most intensely for 619 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: the things that are happening instead of the rich people 620 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,399 Speaker 1: who are probably doing the exact same ship that poor 621 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: people are. But poor people, like you said, are trapped 622 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: in not only a social locking but also like a 623 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: mental locking of like okay, well, now you took away 624 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: the one thing that I had, what the funk am 625 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: I supposed to do? And then it's like yo, the 626 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 1: worst ship too. It's like yo, you take away the jobs? 627 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: Do you take away all these things and then you 628 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: leave us together. So even when they was like looting 629 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: and ship. And he was like, Yo, I can't believe 630 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,919 Speaker 1: they're looting, Like the undertones are looting. Was not only that, 631 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: you know, people are tired, but people are poor. Yeah, 632 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 1: niggas was stealing bread, bro, Like niggas wasn't just stealing 633 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: fucking sneakers and clothing like people were stealing food. Say, 634 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: people were stealing from the supermarket. Because it's like people 635 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 1: steal in formula for their kids. Like it wasn't just 636 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: you know, of course the only show like all this 637 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,720 Speaker 1: person stole a TV or some ship, but there's people 638 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: actually like I'm gonna take this TV and hopefully I 639 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: can sell it so I can have money. A motherfucker 640 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: with a with a PS four under his arm is 641 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 1: better television than a dude with like three loaves of 642 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: bread and swim maloney, you know what I mean? Like 643 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: that terrible jan what are you doing? Get the helicopter 644 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: footage on this motherfucker over here with the Jordan's if 645 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: you don't want to see this, yo, that's what it is, bro. Like, yeah, 646 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,919 Speaker 1: I think it's just set up to lose. And then 647 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: on top of that, yo, we're gonna go in on 648 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: each other that's just how it is. Like I still 649 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: be in the hood, like I still be like I 650 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: gotta walk a certain way, I gotta be a certain way, 651 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: I gotta vibe a certain way, like just to feel 652 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 1: like comfortable because I understand what's going on. I think 653 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 1: this is on drugs to ease the pain. A lot 654 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: of the times people was just like it's bugged the 655 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: funk out. These are times that people haven't experienced before, 656 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: especially like poor people. We've always been poor, and now 657 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,280 Speaker 1: it's like insult to the injury. It's a little extra 658 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: seasoning on poverty that no one wanted. No one was 659 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 1: Everybody was like, hey, I get poverty. I know what 660 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: it tastes like this is fine. And then they were 661 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: like and we have a new flavor, and like, nah, 662 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: I don't need this. Droplets on it. It came with 663 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: the palmish on virus droplets on They just spraple out 664 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 1: on it. It would like a little more droplets. Like 665 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: the worship to Bro is like New York City Bro, 666 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: like you out west, so like we open on something 667 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: like nas was on the train Brother, like people on 668 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: the train right now, Like you know New York Bro, 669 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: like that everybody's got the right amount the scruples going 670 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: on every train call, you're gonna look and see like 671 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: three people with no masks on row mouth in it 672 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 1: like and they want you to say something. They're waiting 673 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: for you to be like, hey, why you ain't got 674 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: a mask on? You turn into something else. I seen 675 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: the dude do something so disrespectful the other day. Not 676 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: only did he have on a mask, your he yawned 677 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: mad like he was like, you can't be this is 678 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: yawns hit different now, bro, this is not the same. Bro, Like, 679 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 1: that's what I wish your bitch would say something yawned 680 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna testing. I must see if one of 681 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 1: y'all got the huts. But right now, everybody put their 682 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,240 Speaker 1: head down because they were trying to avoid them droplets 683 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: to the eye, so they just put their head down. Like, 684 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 1: but now that's poor people ship, bro, Like I got 685 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: this theory too, Like, all right, there a couple of 686 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 1: type of people that don't win mask. You'll either one. 687 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: It's like you just don't give a funk about anything 688 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: or anybody and like you got nothing to lose, or 689 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: you a conspiracy theorist as far as you don't believe 690 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: that the virus is a thing, which is insane to me. 691 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: But you know, those are the two types of people, 692 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 1: the people that have absolutely nothing, like what the fund 693 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,359 Speaker 1: do I have to lose and I don't care about 694 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: anybody else, You know what I'm saying, right, I think 695 00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: ultimately what I landed on and thinking about or conspiracy 696 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 1: theory is I do think that you're absolutely correct that 697 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: like poverty does create culture, it does sort of create 698 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: the waves that society then goes on to celebrate and follow. 699 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: But the scary part is how much of this is 700 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 1: being constructed and maintained by a wealth class, by like 701 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: the capitalists of it. They are literally creating lists of 702 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: reasons why it's beneficial to have certain people be poor 703 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: in certain people be rich so that you know, they 704 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: can create, Like they want a bunch of people in 705 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: the hood to come up with new dance moves so 706 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: that they can then appropriate it and sell it on 707 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: fucking TikTok whenever, on TikTok without the hood bro absolutely 708 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 1: not technically China, but also the Hood. But it wouldn't know. 709 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: That's what I said. We add sauce to everything. We 710 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: made hip hop music there was already music music, but 711 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: we to our own spin on it. So it's like, 712 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: oh you do TikTok boom kiki? Do you love me? 713 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: Are you writing? Yeah? Come on bro? Even Drake, he 714 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: made a song he didn't know a hood nigga was 715 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 1: gonna come and make a whole dance and the ship 716 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: go viral like that, and Shiggy Shiggy wasn't even gonna 717 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 1: get credit until the Internet sort of like came in 718 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 1: and was like, hey, bro, you should probably do something 719 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 1: for him because he kind of made you pop in 720 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: a way that you weren't supposed to. And that's Drake. 721 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: Drake was supposed to be decent. It's a literally a 722 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:40,359 Speaker 1: capitalist structure. It's people intentionally creating a wealth gap for 723 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: their own benefit. Why do people say most people's best 724 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: albums as their first albums. Niggas is hungry when they 725 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: make them first albums. Niggas is like, this ship is 726 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 1: like like this is everything, this is like if this 727 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,720 Speaker 1: don't work, I'm a starve my family. So of course 728 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: that body of work is gonna be crazy, like, oh, 729 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: you're putting your whole life into that. But then once 730 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: you get that back, you come back and you're like, 731 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,879 Speaker 1: I'm saying you won't be good, but it ain't gonna 732 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 1: have that same I think trouble seasonings rap doesn't sound 733 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: as good in between mimosas, do you know what I mean? 734 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: Like the mimosis they funk up your throat a little 735 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: bit and they're making so the hip hop ain't his 736 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: hips at ship too soft? Now? Like that? Yeah, I 737 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: can hear strawberries in your throat. I don't like the 738 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: sound of that. All Right, we're gonna take more, more 739 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: break and we'll be back with more p d d 740 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:45,240 Speaker 1: aprew and more my mama told me. And we are back. 741 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: My god, you're back here with more PDDA brew and 742 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 1: more of my mama told me. We're still talking about 743 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: that sick, sick, sinister ship that capitalism does and keeping 744 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 1: us poor and letting us service their needs so that 745 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,320 Speaker 1: they can sell our ship TikTok's and other websites that 746 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 1: will probably be invented very soon. I assume they'll come 747 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 1: up with some new ship, right, this ain't TikTok's not 748 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: the last one. They're gonna come up with a struggle 749 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: tracker app like you know how they got the step tracker. 750 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: They're gonna come up with the struggle tracker so they 751 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 1: can see how many steps to take to create some 752 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: flyship from the struggle. You gotta struggle five years before 753 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: you come out with a fucking illmatic, Like it's like 754 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: a Malcolm Gladwell's study of like ten thousand hours before 755 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: you can make something new. Hours of struggle, yo, and 756 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 1: then you'll be ready to a You gotta eight Peter 757 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 1: Butter sandwiches in one night before, not even fashion bro, 758 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: not real quick like fashion like imagine. I think it's 759 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,240 Speaker 1: got rips in the jeans that came from a nigga 760 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: with rips in his gee dad's and that I was 761 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: talking to somebody about this. There's a brand of shoes 762 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 1: now that they sell pre dirty. They're like scuffed up 763 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: and sort of meant to look like they're worn in, 764 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: and they're like they sell for hundreds and maybe thousands 765 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: of dollars because people want exactly what you're saying, the 766 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: appearance of somebody who has earned a look, you know 767 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 1: what I mean, think about the white girl like this 768 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: is I don't know how it is late. It is 769 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,919 Speaker 1: a trend. I don't know if it's just in New York. 770 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: But it's like a trend with the white shorties, right, 771 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: white girls, they were white Air Force ones. Them ships 772 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 1: look like they just got them from like a homeless person. 773 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: Them ships look like when they buy them and they 774 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: all white, they just like you know what the escalator 775 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,320 Speaker 1: stairs when like the bottom of the escalator stairs with 776 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: like they just hold them up. Yeah, Like they hold 777 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,760 Speaker 1: it on the bottom and just let all the stairs 778 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 1: just like go across from like and in in the hood. 779 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: That's sacrilegious, bro, White Airce because it's like trying to 780 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: serve them ships as long as they can. Bro. So 781 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: we invented a vibe and they came took it and 782 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: made it some whole other ship. Even this ugly sneaker 783 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: ship right like all this fad of people being like 784 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: I want my sneakers to look big and clunky. It's 785 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: appropriating that experience of like when you were a kid, 786 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 1: if you didn't have shoes, somebody older than you gave 787 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: you their shoes, and the ships didn't fit, so they 788 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 1: were big and clunky on your feet. And now people 789 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: are using hand me down clothing, recyclable clothing as like 790 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 1: a fashion steak. It's wild it's it's fucking nuts and 791 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 1: we we should blow up a building. I don't know. 792 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,359 Speaker 1: That's where I'm at. Some big clunky shoe store needs 793 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: to explode. Because this is too much. I just got 794 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 1: off probation last year, so I'm not gonna agree with this. 795 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. If anything happens, I had 796 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: nothing to do with it. I'm saying, you heard it 797 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: here first. It's just me. I'm the only one that 798 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,240 Speaker 1: wants to blow up a building, and he's gonna snitch 799 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 1: on me. I think that's the end. Nobody man kidding me. Bro, 800 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 1: I can't say all that flashing and then rat they 801 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: to nullifies anything I ever believed in or sent. It's 802 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: the fancy words for a snitche. I know one of 803 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: my fucker's about to snitch on me. All right, let's 804 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 1: play a game. This is a fun game that I 805 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: like to call homemade Hotel. This is the game. I 806 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: will present to you a traditional fact, a well known 807 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 1: fact in the world, and what I would like for 808 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 1: you to do is hotep that ship, really break it down, 809 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 1: give me the conspiracy underneath this fact. Let me understand 810 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 1: what am I not seeing? Connect the dots for me, 811 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:46,439 Speaker 1: pet if if that makes sense? All right? So apparently, 812 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 1: so far in the world, only two diseases have been 813 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 1: successfully eradicated, like fully wiped off of the planet. The 814 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 1: two diseases are smallpox and rinding pest was the second one? 815 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: R and then pest, render pest. I don't know what 816 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 1: render pest is. I know smallpox. Uh. My question for you, 817 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 1: why are those two diseases the only two diseases that 818 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 1: have been wiped off the planet? I mean small pox? 819 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 1: You already know who eradicated the smallpox. That had to 820 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 1: be like George Washington Carver or or another black man. 821 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 1: You feel me, because one we don't really funk with 822 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 1: pox if it ain't two pox, feel me too. See 823 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: how we still got chicken pox because we fox with 824 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 1: chicken m but we don't do nothing small everything big 825 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like if it was if 826 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 1: it was big pox, nigger should still still be here. 827 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 1: But we gotta get rid of the smallpox and just 828 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 1: keep the chicken pox. You feel me A k a 829 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 1: big pox, big box. And then the rind was it 830 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 1: rhand disease? Rinder pest? So if anybody know anything, the 831 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,280 Speaker 1: rind is what on the watermelon. That's the base of 832 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 1: the water right, So now if it's a pest you 833 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 1: feel me. You know what's my favorite words since concepted 834 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 1: in his address on what was that Independence Day where 835 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: he said a pestilence, a pestilence. You called Trump a pestilence. 836 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 1: You know, he said, when there's a pestilence in the system. 837 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 1: So when it's a pestilence in the in the rind 838 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 1: of the watermelon, now there ain't the watermelon. Gotta get 839 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 1: rid of that. You gotta get rid of that. How 840 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 1: are we gonna enjoy that delicious treat if you got 841 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 1: the pest the like if they put the rona in 842 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: the rhind of a watermelon, rona would have been going 843 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 1: by now we would have figured something out when they 844 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: got rid of the pestilence. But that was genius. I 845 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: loved it. Called motherfucking books complete. It's been that real ship. 846 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,839 Speaker 1: I love it. This breaks it all down from I'm 847 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,800 Speaker 1: just trying to bring you the truth, my brother. You 848 00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You can't you called on me. 849 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna come. I'm gonna come through, man, and you 850 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,400 Speaker 1: show the funk up. What a great time, Pete, can 851 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,840 Speaker 1: you tell the people where they can find you? What 852 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 1: cool ship you got going on? All that? You know? 853 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 1: You can find me on the Graham. You know what 854 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm on the gram p D S jokes 855 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,800 Speaker 1: p D like D as in dog and E E 856 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,399 Speaker 1: Z and then jokes. You find me there, um other 857 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 1: than that, catch me in New York City. Man, I 858 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 1: ain't leaving because they're telling me I gotta quarantine if 859 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 1: I leave and then I come back, So I say 860 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 1: I might as well just stay here. I'm going to 861 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 1: places like on the East Coast Northeast. So if you're 862 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 1: in the Northeast, holler at me. If you want animal crossing, 863 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 1: come through my island. Check me out. Uh send me 864 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 1: your friend cold friend requests me. We lit if you. 865 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,919 Speaker 1: I'm single too, so if any ladies is out there, 866 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I want to just hofer 867 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,919 Speaker 1: or you know, and I'm mad that I'm a consensual dude. 868 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 1: I'm a man of twins. I'm a man than that. 869 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm not a violator. You 870 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 1: know I'm not one of these sexual predators. You know 871 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,319 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Boys heads spread love. So if you 872 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 1: want some of that pet love, highlight me. You know 873 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,840 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and that's about it. Bro Damn, that 874 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 1: was beautiful. You learned. We learned so much. Check p 875 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 1: d out online, check pd out live, check pd out 876 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 1: on the internet on animal crossing, and most importantly, check 877 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 1: p d out in some consensual sex that he's offering 878 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:27,239 Speaker 1: up ladies. If you're out sex, consensual conversation that you 879 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 1: know what it leads. Where it leads, we'll say that 880 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 1: wherever it goes, the arms are raised. It's on you, 881 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 1: baby girl. But it's consensual. Absolutely. Well. This is great 882 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 1: as always follow me at Lengthston Kerman and feel free 883 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 1: to like and subscribe to the podcast if that makes 884 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,280 Speaker 1: you horny, if that's what you're into, I'd love that 885 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 1: that's consensual on my end. And uh, if you have 886 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,359 Speaker 1: any drops that you would like to send us, artwork, ideas, 887 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,800 Speaker 1: conspiracy theories that you want to record on your phone 888 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 1: and send my way that we could potentially play in 889 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 1: an episode, please send those to my Mama pod at 890 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:13,280 Speaker 1: gmail dot com. Bye. Because of brown my crop chips 891 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 1: in your pails, Koala bears are racist. 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