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Speaker 2: Dan and the Dance Dan Patrick Show. Glad to have
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Speaker 2: first hour talking about the moment, the situation. Last night
Speaker 2: in Colorado with Ronald Acunyan, Junior Braves outfielder. A couple
Speaker 2: of fans came onto the field and at first it
Speaker 2: looked like they were coming onto the field, maybe getting
Speaker 2: a selfie, and then all of a sudden, security took
Speaker 2: one guy down and then somebody else came out to
Speaker 2: his rescue. Now you got a pig pile out there.
Speaker 2: Still not sure exactly what transpires there, But then we
Speaker 2: got into the debate of how much is enough how
Speaker 2: much is not enough when it comes to security. Stat
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Speaker 2: the Monday Morning quarterback, will join us coming up a
Speaker 2: little bit. We'll talk to him about the situation with
Speaker 2: the art of tanking for the number one pick, because
Speaker 2: now it's the Arizona Cardinals turn. They got rid of
Speaker 2: Colt McCoy and looks like Joshua Dobbs is probably going
Speaker 2: to be the starting quarterback. Although okay, anybody know the
Speaker 2: name of the Cardinals head coach Todd not coming to
Speaker 2: me right now?
Speaker 3: All right? Seaton?
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, it's the former defensive coordinator from the forty
Speaker 4: nine ers.
Speaker 5: Mm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, close, PAULI.
Speaker 6: I can see his face.
Speaker 7: I saw the quote he had, so I'm gonna concise myself, Marvin,
Speaker 7: I don't know Dan.
Speaker 3: Quymn Jonathan Gannon with the Eagles close.
Speaker 6: Was it with a question mark?
Speaker 3: Or I think it was a question mark? Okay, good
Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon.
Speaker 2: Jonathan Gannon the Eagles, right, yeah, yeah, yes, mar.
Speaker 6: I was closed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you almost got it. Yeah.
Speaker 7: You see what Jonathan Gannon said. He said, We're not
Speaker 7: going to tell who are starting quarterback is because it's
Speaker 7: a competitive advantage for us.
Speaker 2: Not Yeah, yeah, Dannon and Dobbs, look at who do
Speaker 2: they open up with?
Speaker 3: Do they hope somebody going one to know?
Speaker 2: Are you okay if you're a fan of the Arizona Cardinals,
Speaker 2: are you okay with this? Like, Hey, I don't it's
Speaker 2: going to be ugly this year, but it could be great.
Speaker 7: So a season where they're not verbally saying they're tanking,
Speaker 7: but it's clear that management is trying to get the
Speaker 7: number one pick. Yeah, I think of a true Cardinals
Speaker 7: fan realizes, hey, we're gonna eat this year, We're gonna
Speaker 7: be the worst, and it's gonna get us one of
Speaker 7: the best prospects in history or recently.
Speaker 2: Okay, Butkyler Murray's contract fully guaranteed for three years last year,
Speaker 2: this year, next year, an injury guarantee for the fourth year.
Speaker 3: So what do you do with Kyler? Who wants Kyler Murray?
Speaker 2: And are they going to rush Kyler Murray to come
Speaker 2: back because if he's not activated today, he can't come
Speaker 2: back until week five. Do you want Kyler Murray to
Speaker 2: come back? If you're trying to So if you're Kyler Murray,
Speaker 2: You're like, I want to come back to make sure
Speaker 2: they don't get Caleb Williams. Where's the organization might be,
Speaker 2: don't hurry back because we would like to get Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3: I mean imagine that the mixed motivation there.
Speaker 2: The Cardinals can't be going, hey, we want Kyler Murray
Speaker 2: to ball out. They be like, then we lose out
Speaker 2: on Marvin Harrison Junior and Caleb Williams if they ended
Speaker 2: up with the first two picks. They open up with
Speaker 2: the pesky Commanders at the Commander's.
Speaker 6: Someone's got to win.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, uh, there's ties in the NFL. Oh that's right.
Speaker 2: Who was it that Donovan McNabb didn't realize that there
Speaker 2: were ties when he was playing. He's like, wait, you
Speaker 2: can tie? Yeah, yes, yes you can. Arizona will be
Speaker 2: at the Commander's to open the season. What do we
Speaker 2: have ten days to go before the Lions and the
Speaker 2: Chiefs on Thursday night?
Speaker 3: Good stuff? Ready to go?
Speaker 8: Nine days?
Speaker 9: Are ready?
Speaker 3: Nine days?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 3: Thank you? Tod all right?
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Speaker 2: Twitter handle a DP show Jonathan Taylor's situation We're going
Speaker 2: to find out today because that might be a situation
Speaker 2: where does he want to play, does he sit out?
Speaker 2: Does he pull a Le'Veon bell situation? Who is going
Speaker 2: to trade? And what do you have to trade to
Speaker 2: get Jonathan Taylor? So we'll talk to Albert Breer the
Speaker 2: Monday morning quarterback. It's the NFL cutdown day today, it's
Speaker 2: the only cutdown day. And Ross Tucker brought up some
Speaker 2: our good buddy and he was saying that when you're
Speaker 2: trying to make a team, you know everybody was you know,
Speaker 2: successful in college, some you know stars, and you're trying
Speaker 2: to make the roster. And then when you don't make
Speaker 2: the roster in the NFL, then you have to go home.
Speaker 2: And when you go home, everybody knows that you're home
Speaker 2: and you didn't make a roster. And he talked about
Speaker 2: it and really talked about it in terms that I
Speaker 2: didn't really grasp. I didn't bring it into my consciousness.
Speaker 2: Then I go, oh, my god, your identity is being
Speaker 2: a football player. Now it's a former football player. And
Speaker 2: now you go back home and are you working out?
Speaker 2: People are asking, hey, what happened? And he talked about
Speaker 2: that that you lose your identity. Your identity has been
Speaker 2: a football player for most of your life and now
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you're not on a roster. You're
Speaker 2: at home, and these players are going to be cut today.
Speaker 2: They might get picked up by somebody else. But you
Speaker 2: go back home and all of a sudden, you're the
Speaker 2: guy who got cut.
Speaker 3: You're a former player.
Speaker 2: Now you got to work out, go to local high school,
Speaker 2: work out with the team while you're waiting for somebody
Speaker 2: to call you yes, Marvin.
Speaker 10: And it's got to be weird because a lot of
Speaker 10: these guys from small towns where they are the guy
Speaker 10: and everybody knows them. It's not Chicago, New York, LA,
Speaker 10: or whatever. It is just some small podunk town where
Speaker 10: you were the best player this school has ever seen.
Speaker 10: You went to some big time school and it just
Speaker 10: didn't work out, and you made the last cut of
Speaker 10: you know, an NFL team, and now you got to
Speaker 10: go back and there's some jack dude who's your guidance counselor,
Speaker 10: and you're like, many, he should be playing football. Man,
Speaker 10: I tried, And now it's over and you're twenty three,
Speaker 10: twenty four to twenty five.
Speaker 2: By the way, Ross Tucker is not the most famous
Speaker 2: person from his hometown.
Speaker 6: Was it Wyo?
Speaker 2: Missing Yeah, not even close to being the most famous
Speaker 2: Yeah person.
Speaker 3: You know seton I do. Okay.
Speaker 4: Russ mentions it almost every time he hosts the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, not Taylor Swift.
Speaker 6: Yes it is Taylor swf Yeah, the the Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2: He's not even the many And you know Ross knows
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift's dad. I think his name is Scott and
Speaker 2: uh but that's interesting that where he's from, not the
Speaker 2: most famous person from his hometown.
Speaker 3: Distant, second distant, very very distant.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 3: We say good morning.
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Speaker 2: if you haven't. The situation with the ACC and are
Speaker 2: they going to bring in Calin Stanford or maybe smu Uh,
Speaker 2: this this could happen, you know sometime this week that
Speaker 2: they make a decision if Collen Stanford are going to
Speaker 2: join the ACC s MU but you know, the last
Speaker 2: five seasons, these schools have failed to produce relevant NFL
Speaker 2: talent or appear in any meaningful Bowl games. Over the
Speaker 2: last two seasons, Callen Stanford in particular, they both failed
Speaker 2: to win more than five games. So you got the
Speaker 2: Big ten and the SEC the Big twelve. They are
Speaker 2: they're stockpiling the ACC doesn't have much opportunity to be picky.
Speaker 2: But if you're going to keep Clemson and you're going
Speaker 2: to keep Florida State, you got to make sure that
Speaker 2: that conference is really strong. But if you're looking, you know,
Speaker 2: does Collen Stanford really improve your football conference or your
Speaker 2: basketball And the answer is no. SMU is interesting, SMU's
Speaker 2: got money. You want to be in Texas, you want
Speaker 2: to be in the Damas area, you want to be
Speaker 2: able to recruit there. But you're looking at you know,
Speaker 2: this is another watershed moment in college football. Collen Stanford
Speaker 2: going to the ACC perhaps, and I just don't think
Speaker 2: that's enough to keep Florida State and or Clemson.
Speaker 3: Yeah, pauling SMU.
Speaker 7: For the past, you know, twenty five years have about
Speaker 7: around from the whack the Conference USA to the American
Speaker 7: or ah see, whatever it's called. But you know, the
Speaker 7: last three of the last four years they were ranked
Speaker 7: in the top twenty at a different point in the season.
Speaker 7: They're poised, and they've got money and boosters. I think
Speaker 7: they're going to find their way into a Power five.
Speaker 2: Well, there's a report that they may not even ask
Speaker 2: for any money to join the ACC. They may not
Speaker 2: get a share of it. They would waive the fees
Speaker 2: that you would get, which is whatever twenty million dollars
Speaker 2: twenty five million dollars maybe per school, that they would
Speaker 2: wave that for five to seven years. They just you
Speaker 2: don't want to be left down, and I think that's
Speaker 2: what these schools callen Stanford. You know they're not going
Speaker 2: to be standalone schools, but is that enough for ACC
Speaker 2: to go?
Speaker 3: Now?
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Speaker 3: The hour two Pole Questions is going to be what
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Speaker 4: Dan Hour one, we put up their security at sporting
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Speaker 4: Right now on Dan Patrick dot com, Dan the results
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Speaker 6: America.
Speaker 3: Wait wait, wait, they shouldn't.
Speaker 4: A flag waving with that pole question in physical take
Speaker 4: no chances?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just had a guy.
Speaker 2: Who does security says, well, you're supposed to observe and report.
Speaker 6: We've never had one hundred percent on a pole question never.
Speaker 3: That is hilarious. What do we have for our two?
Speaker 3: Absolutely hilarious.
Speaker 4: We're going to take one of the Toddlers that he
Speaker 4: sent around because it's so funny.
Speaker 2: All right, let me let me let todd read them.
Speaker 2: Give me your poll questions.
Speaker 8: Okay, what of them have to do with Kelly Stafford? Matthew.
Speaker 8: Stafford's wife has a podcast, and she decided to share
Speaker 8: in her podcast how Matthew's having trouble dealing with the
Speaker 8: younger players. I can't relate to them, And somehow she
Speaker 8: felt like there was okay to share that publicly and
Speaker 8: not lead that to Matthew and his team to deal
Speaker 8: with in the locker room. So, if I'm having issues
Speaker 8: with my employer and or coworkers, I would use your choices.
Speaker 8: Hope my spouse or significant other would handle it for me.
Speaker 8: Address the situation directly with those parties. Seems like common sense.
Speaker 8: Express my concerns in the nearest suggestion box.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: If I go home and I say something about the
Speaker 2: dan Ets, and then my wife has a podcast and
Speaker 2: she goes on and starts talking about why I don't
Speaker 2: like Fritzy, then that's that's on me and on her.
Speaker 2: But I have to understand what is private and what
Speaker 2: is going to be used for your podcast. I would
Speaker 2: have a problem with that if I'm Matthew Stafford that
Speaker 2: if I say something to my wife like now, I
Speaker 2: can't relate Now, I'd like to understand the context of it.
Speaker 2: In fairness to matt and his wife, that was it
Speaker 2: a you know, I can't relate.
Speaker 3: To these guys.
Speaker 2: You know this is really troubling or is it affecting
Speaker 2: your job or could it be? Man, I'm so old,
Speaker 2: you know, and trying to relate to somebody fifteen years
Speaker 2: younger and I don't know what they're doing. They're always
Speaker 2: on their phones and you know the music they listen to. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's fine, but it felt like, hey, I can't relate
Speaker 2: to these kids.
Speaker 3: Yes, ton, So now.
Speaker 8: All future communication between Matthew and his wife, he has
Speaker 8: to say this is off the record, off for your podcast.
Speaker 9: That's the roles.
Speaker 7: Or maybe he's fine with it me because he's aware
Speaker 7: she has a podcast. He's had one for a while.
Speaker 2: Okay, would you have a problem with your Matthew Stafford
Speaker 2: that this got out Todd, Yes, I would, all right, Seaton, Yeah, yeah, Marvin, yes, Paulie.
Speaker 7: Only if I said not to say it, if I
Speaker 7: said it's between us and not for the podcast, because
Speaker 7: he's got to be aware that a big chunk I've
Speaker 7: heard her podcast, for a big chunk of it is
Speaker 7: talking about what her husband does for a living.
Speaker 6: This is not a rare topic on the podcast.
Speaker 7: It's the topic on the podcast is being the wife
Speaker 7: or an NFL star. She talks about what he said.
Speaker 3: But he asked, now, say hey, this off the record.
Speaker 7: She's a journalist, not necessarily off the record, but if
Speaker 7: they have conversations of her week and she's taught, she
Speaker 7: always talks about what those who talk about during the week,
Speaker 7: and that's her entire a big chunk of a podcast,
Speaker 7: I would say that it's up to him to say, hey,
Speaker 7: this one's between us.
Speaker 3: Yes, Ton, It seems.
Speaker 8: That that have to be a certain amount of common sense.
Speaker 8: I say, this doesn't seem like the kind of thing
Speaker 8: I should be telling the world. Not that there's has
Speaker 8: this great ratings and following, but this doesn't seem like
Speaker 8: it should be coming from her, And maybe at the
Speaker 8: very least she should say can I mention that on
Speaker 8: the show or you sensitive to that? Is that cool
Speaker 8: if I kind of throw it out there on the podcast.
Speaker 2: And maybe she did, but you know, she might want
Speaker 2: to be a star. No, she might want Well, if
Speaker 2: you got a podcast, she wants the attention, you certainly
Speaker 2: got it. But I would have a problem if I
Speaker 2: said something in confidence to my wife and she should
Speaker 2: know what should get out there. That's when she should
Speaker 2: say back to him, Hey, is it okay if I
Speaker 2: mentioned that on the podcast and maybe it happened, But
Speaker 2: I have a problem with that, alrighty.
Speaker 7: It isn't string a Stafford told his wife that, you know,
Speaker 7: back when he started, the players would play ping pong
Speaker 7: and play games and play cards everything. And he says,
Speaker 7: now the players the minute pressed over and the shower's done,
Speaker 7: they sit with a hoodie up with their phone on
Speaker 7: its phone, and then to the car and to the
Speaker 7: hotel or to their house, and it's not very competitive
Speaker 7: in the locker, and there's not stuff going on.
Speaker 6: There's not you know, growing out going.
Speaker 3: On team building.
Speaker 7: He said, it's a different if it has a different
Speaker 7: ero and he said a lot of it with the phones.
Speaker 3: Yes, ton it seems silly.
Speaker 9: Coming from me.
Speaker 8: I know, because I'm the least confrontational of many many people.
Speaker 8: But you need to just address with the players. Guys, guys,
Speaker 8: let's talk here. You don't have to call me sir.
Speaker 8: We're on the same level where teammates. Put your phones down.
Speaker 8: Let's talk and make some eye contact here. This is
Speaker 8: a little silly. I gotta let go through your hoodies
Speaker 8: and your phone to get your attention and just something leadership.
Speaker 2: But your daughter did speak on your behalf at my
Speaker 2: Christmas party, and she was like SI at the time.
Speaker 3: But she did something was said at home.
Speaker 8: Yeah, well she didn't like the way, well, she watched
Speaker 8: a little of the shows and she realized that with
Speaker 8: the pies in the face, and she didn't like your
Speaker 8: tone towards me a couple of times, and she took
Speaker 8: it upon herself to walk into your house for the
Speaker 8: Christmas party and say, I got my eye on you.
Speaker 8: I don't like how you're talking to.
Speaker 2: My dad, but you probably say stuff with your wife.
Speaker 2: You share things.
Speaker 8: I complain from time to time, but I don't like
Speaker 8: call specific people out. It's more of a frustrating situation.
Speaker 8: I get, you know, by the time I get home
Speaker 8: after an hour drive, I'm pretty much cooled off of
Speaker 8: something upset me.
Speaker 2: Well, that's good, right, what's the other did you have
Speaker 2: another pole question?
Speaker 8: The other one was the Arizona Cardinals are tanking the
Speaker 8: season and hope we don't notice our tanking the season
Speaker 8: and don't care how blatantly obvious it is. Are not tanking,
Speaker 8: they still want to win and making necessary decisions.
Speaker 3: Okay, this is what happens. That's the one we put up.
Speaker 3: By making the necessary decisions to.
Speaker 2: Win, I don't think they're making necessary decisions to win now.
Speaker 2: I think they're making decisions that we help them win
Speaker 2: when the draft rules around. But tanking the season, hope
Speaker 2: we don't notice tanking the season, don't care, and not tanking,
Speaker 2: they still want to win and making the necessary decisions.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 3: You're not allowed to admit you're tanking.
Speaker 2: No, Mark Cuban did that and it cost him.
Speaker 3: Yes, Marvin, are they caving for Caleb?
Speaker 2: Ooh?
Speaker 6: Solid, solid, right?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: And then so they had the Texans' first round pick
Speaker 2: as well. They can end up. You know, I don't
Speaker 2: know how good the Texans are going to be. They're
Speaker 2: not tanking, but they could have the first and second pick,
Speaker 2: but you still have the Kyler Murray situation in his contract,
Speaker 2: and then can you move on from him?
Speaker 3: Do you want to move on from him?
Speaker 2: You got a chance for Caleb Williams and maybe Marvin
Speaker 2: Harrison Junior, the Ohio state wide receiver. That'd be a
Speaker 2: good way to start to rebuild. But then you'd have
Speaker 2: to find somebody who would Kyler Murray in that contract
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Speaker 2: com slash eq. You know what's interesting revision is history.
Speaker 2: When Russell Wilson was successful, how many owners came out
Speaker 2: and said, you know, we were going to take him,
Speaker 2: We were going to draft him, and now you're getting
Speaker 2: this with Jalen Hurts. Jerry Jones just said, oh you know,
Speaker 2: we were thinking of taking him. Okay, Albert Breer, the
Speaker 2: Monday Morning Quarterback senior NFL reporter, and he into this
Speaker 2: on the program. Let's give Albert the poll question for
Speaker 2: hour two. There see no' connor.
Speaker 3: Our t pull question.
Speaker 4: Dan, Okay, the Arizona Cardinals are tanking and hope we
Speaker 4: didn't notice tanking and don't care if we notice or
Speaker 4: not tanking at all, and they're trying to win.
Speaker 3: I'm starting with that question for you, Obert.
Speaker 5: I don't think they care that we know that they're tanking,
Speaker 5: cause I think like it's actually just the right thing
Speaker 5: to do, stripping that roster down. And I I mean,
Speaker 5: look like all you have to do is look at
Speaker 5: like what they had the last few years under Cliff Kingsbury, guys.
Speaker 9: Like AJ Green and JJ Watt and.
Speaker 5: Rodney Hudson, who you know, we're great players in their
Speaker 5: time but were well past the prime.
Speaker 9: They were like leaning on these guys, you know.
Speaker 5: So I mean I understand, like, you know, the idea like, oh,
Speaker 5: they're tanking for Caleb Williams or Drake May and there's
Speaker 5: merit to the idea that, of course, but you know,
Speaker 5: like I sort.
Speaker 9: Of look at this like what else did you want
Speaker 9: them to do?
Speaker 5: You know, like, it's not like they had this option
Speaker 5: where they were closed and it's like, yeah, let's go
Speaker 5: after it. I mean, the right thing to do here
Speaker 5: was to strip the thing down and really hit reset
Speaker 5: and start over. And I think that was like a
Speaker 5: parent it was blatantly apparent in the way that they
Speaker 5: handle the draft. You know. I think Manti Austin Fort
Speaker 5: their GM did a good job of moving up and
Speaker 5: down to get the guy they wanted in Paris Johnson
Speaker 5: and pick up another first round pick for next year,
Speaker 5: and now they're positioned well for the future. But it's
Speaker 5: not like anybody else would have come in there and
Speaker 5: done anything different, Like this is always.
Speaker 9: Going to be a total rebuild. It's just where that
Speaker 9: roster was at.
Speaker 2: Okay, what do you do with Kyler Murray. If he's
Speaker 2: not active today, then he's not coming back to at
Speaker 2: least week five, and his motivation would be to win games.
Speaker 2: So you're not getting Caleb Williams, and the ownership might
Speaker 2: be you know, contrasting that that they want to lose games,
Speaker 2: so something you know there's going to be a head
Speaker 2: on collision here, I would think, yeah, you.
Speaker 5: Know, it's hard because there's all kinds of injury guarantees
Speaker 5: in his contract, and the injury guarantees run through twenty
Speaker 5: twenty five. And if you look at it like I mean,
Speaker 5: you know, good for Kyler because this thing gives him
Speaker 5: protection every step of the way. He's got over thirty
Speaker 5: five million dollars fully guaranteed next year. The year after that,
Speaker 5: there's almost thirty million dollars that becomes guaranteed fully guaranteed
Speaker 5: in March.
Speaker 9: So essentially the.
Speaker 5: Cardinals have to make a decision on thirty million dollars
Speaker 5: of Kyler's Murray for twenty twenty five about what seven
Speaker 5: months from now, you know, So you're talking then about
Speaker 5: like what would be Caleb Williams or Drake May's second
Speaker 5: year in the league, and you'd be carrying like that
Speaker 5: thirty million dollar number on your books if you don't
Speaker 5: offload him by March. So I think, certainly this is
Speaker 5: a critical year for Kyler Murray and he's protected financially.
Speaker 5: But I mean, if you go down the line on
Speaker 5: this and you look at it. I mean, there's going
Speaker 5: to be a decision point that's going to come, and
Speaker 5: one way or the other, it's going to be costly
Speaker 5: for the Cardinals to keep Kyler Murray. It's going to
Speaker 5: be costly for the for the Cardinals to get rid
Speaker 5: of Kyler Murray.
Speaker 9: And you know, I think you can.
Speaker 5: Give Kyler and his agent a lot of credit for
Speaker 5: rattling cages like they did last year because now he
Speaker 5: has protected six ways from Sunday no matter what the
Speaker 5: Cardinals do.
Speaker 3: Would he be tradable if he's healthy.
Speaker 5: I I don't know. I mean, it's just they ran
Speaker 5: such a unique offense the last three years under Cliff
Speaker 5: Kingsbury and look what Drew Petsing, their offensive coordinator, is
Speaker 5: going to bring in. You know, under Jonathan Gannon is
Speaker 5: completely different. And I mean, in fairness of Kyler, my
Speaker 5: understanding is Kyler has been really engaged as far as
Speaker 5: learning it, because what Cliff had him doing the last
Speaker 5: three years was sort of a continuation of the offense
Speaker 5: he ran for Lincoln Riley at Oklahoma and then the
Speaker 5: offense he ran before that in high school, even when
Speaker 5: he ran for Kevin Someone at Texas A and m
Speaker 5: All those years ago, So this was the most This
Speaker 5: has been the most significant schematic change that Kyler Murray's
Speaker 5: gone through in maybe his entire football life, and so
Speaker 5: he's engaged in that. And I do think like for
Speaker 5: Kyler playing this year and showing that he can run
Speaker 5: a version of the Shanahan offense with Drew Petson coming
Speaker 5: there from Cleveland would certainly make him more marketable as
Speaker 5: a player and would help the Cardinals as far as
Speaker 5: like convincing somebody else to take on this contract. Now,
Speaker 5: would they have to eat some money, probably, But I
Speaker 5: think that that's like a key part to this because again,
Speaker 5: we've only seen him in sort of an air raid
Speaker 5: type of system, and we don't know what he would
Speaker 5: look like in a more conventional system or what ninety
Speaker 5: percent of the rest of the NFL runs. So having
Speaker 5: that context is going to be important, which I think
Speaker 5: makes for Kyler, for the Cardinals, for everybody important, you know,
Speaker 5: getting to see what he looks like in that sort
Speaker 5: of offense when we get to October, November, December, or
Speaker 5: whenever he's ready to come back.
Speaker 3: Why did the Cowboys trade for Trey Lance?
Speaker 5: Well, Number one, Jerry's always had a fascination with these things,
Speaker 5: and if you look at the history of it, it
Speaker 5: really is interesting. Dan, Like, I remember when Jerry like
Speaker 5: went and brought in all these baseball players. You know,
Speaker 5: it's like Quincy Carter and Drew Henson and Chad Hutchinson,
Speaker 5: and you know, he kept taking swings on guys who
Speaker 5: are highly regarded but had gone to play minor league baseball.
Speaker 5: Jerry has always, I think, sort of had a fascination with, like,
Speaker 5: how can I find the next guy? And is there
Speaker 5: a rock that I can turn over? Is there a
Speaker 5: way that I can find my next version of Tony
Speaker 5: Romo or Dak Prescott. And so even when he's had
Speaker 5: a quarterback he likes in the roster, he's gone about
Speaker 5: doing that. And I think that's part of what this
Speaker 5: is because they had a high grade on Trey Lance.
Speaker 5: You know, I think to some degree, you feel like
Speaker 5: you're acquiring a distressed asset here, and you got to
Speaker 5: pay five million dollars next year in twenty twenty four
Speaker 5: to do it. But there is some logic there that
Speaker 5: it's never a bad investment to take a swing at
Speaker 5: that position because it can wind up being worth a
Speaker 5: lot more to you and if Trey Lance develops nicely
Speaker 5: under Mike McCarthy and then has a good preseason next year,
Speaker 5: maybe you can recoup the pick.
Speaker 9: So that part of it, you know, that that's part
Speaker 9: of it.
Speaker 5: If you want to be a little more cynical about it,
Speaker 5: you can also look at like what this might mean
Speaker 5: for Dak Prescott and how contentious the lost contract negotiation
Speaker 5: got and how he's going to be going into a
Speaker 5: contract here in twenty twenty four, and how they have
Speaker 5: to take care.
Speaker 9: Of this at some point, you know.
Speaker 5: And so to me, like that part of it is
Speaker 5: at least interesting, like where do we go from here?
Speaker 5: And could Trey Lance eventually be a leverage point for
Speaker 5: the Cowboys against Dak Prescott in contract negotiations. That's what
Speaker 5: I'm looking at here, and I think that that part
Speaker 5: of it makes this really really fascinating going forward, especially
Speaker 5: if the Cowboys have a new head coach in twenty
Speaker 5: twenty four.
Speaker 3: But you know, Trey Lance isn't better than Cooper Rush.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, but that's why you're not. But you're not
Speaker 5: acquiring him for debts. You're acquiring him because you think
Speaker 5: he can become more than that. You know what I mean, like,
Speaker 5: you're not acquiring him so he can fill in for
Speaker 5: Dak Prescott in week five if Dak gets nicked up,
Speaker 5: So why are you bringing him in?
Speaker 9: You're bringing him in.
Speaker 5: Because you think he's got upside more than that, and
Speaker 5: you think that maybe he got caught and you know,
Speaker 5: bad circumstance in San Francisco, and you're acquiring that distressed asset.
Speaker 5: You think you can make him into something. And if
Speaker 5: you can make him into something, maybe he can give
Speaker 5: you some leverage in that contract negotiations.
Speaker 9: Dak. That's sort of where they stand.
Speaker 2: But he's got to learn a whole new offense. He
Speaker 2: didn't get a chance to play. He's not going to
Speaker 2: get a chance to play in Dallas, and like, how
Speaker 2: do you work him into getting any action when he's
Speaker 2: not And.
Speaker 9: That's the problem.
Speaker 5: See, that would be the argument I would make Dan, like,
Speaker 5: is that, like what everybody in San Francisco.
Speaker 9: Tell you, he needs to play. And that's one of
Speaker 9: the reasons.
Speaker 5: Why the Niners can't can't really like felt like it
Speaker 5: wasn't right for them right now because they don't have
Speaker 5: an ironment that he can play in. And the whole
Speaker 5: thing in San Francisco was we need to get him snaps.
Speaker 5: And if you talk to people in not building last August,
Speaker 5: but they would tell you, like point blank, and this
Speaker 5: is before the Jimmy renegotiation, when he was off on
Speaker 5: the side practice field, they would have told you, then,
Speaker 5: Jimmy Garoppolo is a better quarterback than Trey Lance right now.
Speaker 5: But we believe if we can feed Trey game reps
Speaker 5: that by December or January, we'll have a better quarterback
Speaker 5: than Trey Lance, and then we'll be set up for
Speaker 5: the future and we'll be able to expand Kyle Shannan's
Speaker 5: offense and do more than we've ever done.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 5: Then Trey Lance gets hurt, and you know, they were
Speaker 5: willing to go through the ups and downs and everything
Speaker 5: else that comes with developing a young quarterback. But Trey
Speaker 5: Lance gets hurt, and then Jimmy comes in, Jimmy plays fine,
Speaker 5: Jimmy gets hurt. Rock Perty comes in and he shows
Speaker 5: that he can run Kyle Shannan's offense, like say, they
Speaker 5: would have envisioned Mac Jones running their offense. So now
Speaker 5: you're looking at it and you're saying, can we put
Speaker 5: another year in peril to run an offense that doesn't
Speaker 5: work for everybody that works for Trey Lance and take
Speaker 5: our lumps and go through our ups and downs and
Speaker 5: Trey Lance, especially now when he's lost confidence or lost
Speaker 5: some confidence, Like is that fair to Trent Williams? Is
Speaker 5: that fair to Fred Warner? Is that fair to Nick Bosa? No,
Speaker 5: they're in a championship window. They can't afford to throw
Speaker 5: a year overboard or risk throwing a year overboard the
Speaker 5: name of quarterback development. So they couldn't afford him the snaps.
Speaker 5: He's only played twenty one games since high school, since
Speaker 5: two and that's the last you know, five and a
Speaker 5: half years.
Speaker 2: So but it's the same situation with Dallas because he's
Speaker 2: going into a team that's right in Super Bowl CAUP tender.
Speaker 9: And that's the hard part. That's the hard part.
Speaker 5: And like and it's like if you aren't if you
Speaker 5: haven't invested three first round picks and a guy like
Speaker 5: San Francisco did, who's going to be willing to go
Speaker 5: through the bumps, the ups, the downs. Like that's where
Speaker 5: you're between a rock and a hard place. If your
Speaker 5: Trey Lance, you need the game reps. But without having
Speaker 5: somebody who's that invested in you, Who's going to give
Speaker 5: them to you?
Speaker 2: I thought Minnesota would have been a great spot for him.
Speaker 9: Right, but what do you have gotten the reps there?
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I think he's got a better
Speaker 2: chance of getting reps there than he does in Dallas
Speaker 2: because Jerry and Jerry is on the doorstep. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's desperate to win a super Bowl. And you can't
Speaker 2: just say to Trey Lance, go in there when Cooper
Speaker 2: Rush is better than him. If Dak happens to play
Speaker 2: poorly or gets hurt, it's it's hard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 5: It's just I mean, like, and that's the thing is,
Speaker 5: like it's a unique situation in that, like, this is
Speaker 5: a guy who just has.
Speaker 9: Not seen enough.
Speaker 5: And brock Party was the opposite of that, by the way,
Speaker 5: Like brock Purdy had something like fourteen or fifteen hundred
Speaker 5: attempts in college.
Speaker 3: You know, are you on brock are you? Are you
Speaker 3: all in on brock Party.
Speaker 9: I'm I'm all in on the Niners roster.
Speaker 5: And I don't think brock Perty needs to be a
Speaker 5: superhero to take the work.
Speaker 9: Yes, I like, look like I do.
Speaker 5: I think brock Party, Brock Purdy got them to the
Speaker 5: NFC title game last year and then he got hurt,
Speaker 5: and we I just look at they're not asking Brock
Speaker 5: party to be a superhero.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 9: What's gonna be fascinating about.
Speaker 5: This is, do you believe now, Dan, that we're in
Speaker 5: an environment where Joe Flacco couldn't win a super Bowl anymore,
Speaker 5: Eli Manning couldn't win a super Bowl anymore, A second
Speaker 5: year Russell Wilson couldn't win a super Bowl anymore, let
Speaker 5: alone like Brad Johnson or Trent Dill for winning a
Speaker 5: Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Do you believe that?
Speaker 9: Do you need Mahomes? Do you need Allan?
Speaker 5: Because there used to be a time where if you
Speaker 5: were good enough around the quarterback you could win. You
Speaker 5: could beat the team with great quarterbacks. But because of
Speaker 5: the environment, the game, the way the games went gone,
Speaker 5: the rules, all that different, stuff like can you not
Speaker 5: do that anymore? To me, the Niners are going to
Speaker 5: be a good test of that, because I do think
Speaker 5: Brock Purty is a good quarterback. Do I think, like
Speaker 5: if they had equal rosters, that he could beat Josh
Speaker 5: Allen or Joe Burrow or Patrick Mahomes. No, do I
Speaker 5: think he might be able to make it through the NFC, sure,
Speaker 5: Like I think he might be able to make it
Speaker 5: through the NFC, you know. So I think it's going
Speaker 5: to be a fascinating experiment, you know, And I think
Speaker 5: he's got a chance.
Speaker 9: Like they feel like, I'll just tell you this in
Speaker 9: San Francisco.
Speaker 5: They feel like he can give them what mac Jones
Speaker 5: would have given them if they had taken mac Jones
Speaker 5: sort of overall and mac Jones with a serious consideration
Speaker 5: for them a third over with a third overall pick.
Speaker 5: And that's what sort of saves them here. Now, can
Speaker 5: brock Perty carry a team?
Speaker 9: I think that's a different question.
Speaker 2: It's like Jalen Hurts, He's got a great roster. But
Speaker 2: if Jalen Hurts, you know, played in Houston, people would say, oh,
Speaker 2: that guy is kind of interesting there.
Speaker 9: It's if you played in Kansas City. Could he have
Speaker 9: taken that Kansas City team to a super Bowl? Probably?
Speaker 3: Not right, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's it's I tell people about where you get drafted,
Speaker 2: and sometimes the later you get drafted at that position,
Speaker 2: the better off you are because you get a little time,
Speaker 2: there's not as much pressure. Trey Lance couldn't live up
Speaker 2: to that pressure. I get that, but Dak Prescott, hey,
Speaker 2: you're a third or fourth round pick.
Speaker 3: Or Russell Wilson, you're a third round pick.
Speaker 2: You know, Brady, it allows you to kind of absorb
Speaker 2: and then be able when you get your moment to produce.
Speaker 2: I don't know if Jalen Hurts is great. I know
Speaker 2: he's on a great team. I know he had an
Speaker 2: unbelievable Super Bowl well.
Speaker 5: And even the great way even though like the guys
Speaker 5: who become great players, like, there are very few quarterbacks
Speaker 5: that are good enough to overcome bad circumstances. To me,
Speaker 5: like that's why Andrew Luck is so underappreciated, right, Like,
Speaker 5: look at what Andrew Luck walked into. They tore that
Speaker 5: roster down, you know, like after Bill Pollyan and Jim
Speaker 5: Carbell or fired, they tore that roster down. And Andrew
Speaker 5: Luck made the playoffs as a rookie and then made
Speaker 5: it around further in year two and around for year further,
Speaker 5: around for around further and year three, and then the
Speaker 5: injuries started to mount up because he didn't have a
Speaker 5: lot around him and he was getting beat up, and
Speaker 5: I just there are very few quarterbacks that can do that, you.
Speaker 9: Know, and as great as Mahomes is.
Speaker 5: Mahomes went into an awesome circumstance as great as Josh
Speaker 5: Allen as Josh Allen went into an awesome circumstance right
Speaker 5: like Burrow, I think you'd are argue Burrow was dealing
Speaker 5: with a little more like a little bit more of
Speaker 5: an issue around him in his offensive line, but he
Speaker 5: had great play.
Speaker 9: He had great receivers to throw too.
Speaker 5: You know, it's rare that you find a quarterback that
Speaker 5: can overcome a bad circumstance. And so yeah, I mean
Speaker 5: I think that you're right, Like the chicken and an
Speaker 5: egg thing is very very.
Speaker 9: Real at the quarterback position.
Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor get moved today.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think like part of this is going to
Speaker 5: come down to whether or not the cults are willing
Speaker 5: to take a little less like they don't have their
Speaker 5: price right now. They may get it, but they don't
Speaker 5: have their price right now. And then like where Jonathan
Speaker 5: Taylor's contracts demands are now, Like i'd heard like that,
Speaker 5: but maybe between thirteen and fourteen million a year and
Speaker 5: forty million over the first three years of a deal
Speaker 5: could get it done. That seems reasonable to me. The
Speaker 5: question is that somebody willing to do that and then
Speaker 5: give her away, say like a second round pick and
Speaker 5: something else.
Speaker 9: That's a lot, you know.
Speaker 5: And it's a lot at this point of the year.
Speaker 5: So I still think Miami is the team to watch.
Speaker 5: And what's interesting about Miami to me, Dan is the
Speaker 5: reason why we know that offense, like right, like Mike
Speaker 5: McDaniel running like the Mike Shanahan offense has been able
Speaker 5: to I mean, I'm not saying you or I could
Speaker 5: run for a thousand yards.
Speaker 9: In it, but it's probably not far off.
Speaker 5: Like if you look at the history going back twenty
Speaker 5: five years to when Mike Rant in Denver, so we've
Speaker 5: always known that, like you can that running game works
Speaker 5: almost regardless of who's back there carrying the ball.
Speaker 9: But I think Mike McDaniel saw.
Speaker 5: What Christian McCaffrey was able to do in San Francisco
Speaker 5: last year, and I just sort of wonder if like
Speaker 5: there's that part of it for him where it's like
Speaker 5: he looks at what Kyle was able to do with
Speaker 5: a truly elite back and Christian McCaffrey and is just
Speaker 5: sort of like, I wonder what someone like that could
Speaker 5: do for me and Jonathan Taylor would obviously be that
Speaker 5: for them, and there's no question that over the last
Speaker 5: year so they've really taken their swings and going and
Speaker 5: getting Tyree Kill and going and getting jail and Ramsey.
Speaker 9: So this would be along the lines.
Speaker 5: Of how they've taken advantage of having a quarterback into
Speaker 5: on a rookie contract.
Speaker 2: Always great to talk to Albert. Thank you for joining
Speaker 2: us again. All right, thanks Dan, that's the Monday morning quarterback.
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Speaker 2: The Oakland A's still have to play another month of baseball.
Speaker 2: They have been outscored by three hundred and nine runs.
Speaker 2: Now you might be wondering, okay, what does that mean?
Speaker 2: Where does that rank in history? Since nineteen hundred, there
Speaker 2: have been twenty teams that have been outscored by three
Speaker 2: hundred or more runs in a season. The Oakland A's
Speaker 2: are there at three to nine, the Detroit Tigers three
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty three runs in twenty nineteen, the Tigers
Speaker 2: in two thousand and three, three thirty seven, the Tigers
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety six, three twenty. Then you go back
Speaker 2: to the sixty two Mets, the Philadelphia Athletics, Philadelphia Phillies.
Speaker 2: But they still have a month left. They could run
Speaker 2: away with this. Let me see the most runs a team.
Speaker 2: Let's see three hundred and three hundred and forty nine runs.
Speaker 2: The Red Sox in nineteen thirty two outscored by three
Speaker 2: hundred and forty nine runs. So h hanging there, Oakland,
Speaker 2: you got a chance to make some history here before
Speaker 2: your history in Oakland.
Speaker 3: Yes, Polly and the pacer on.
Speaker 7: I think they get outscored by about two point two
Speaker 7: runs per game. Thirty games left to the math, that's
Speaker 7: like sixty five probably look at three seven day.
Speaker 3: Oh boy, that'll be awesome, all time record holder.
Speaker 2: Time to play. Which quarterback gets benched first game? Do
Speaker 2: we have any music for that?
Speaker 3: Marvin? Okay, everybody ready to play? Yes?
Speaker 2: The quarterback who gets benched first game?
Speaker 7: Yes, not not injury related, performance related.
Speaker 6: So the quarterback that gets benched first by performance.
Speaker 3: Would like to go first?
Speaker 7: I will actually, you know what, I'm going to stretch
Speaker 7: this one out a little bit. Which quarterback has the
Speaker 7: least chance, according to Vegas to get benched because of play?
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, that is correct.
Speaker 7: Okay, there are four other quarterbacks in the next tier
Speaker 7: where they're unbenchable.
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers, correct, Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2: No, what, No, he's that's the most shocking ad to
Speaker 2: play Patrick mahons injury.
Speaker 7: Right, Patrick Mahomes is one thousand to one against John Allen.
Speaker 7: Josh is there five hundred one Jaw and Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 7: there five hundred one. Herbert Nope, he's two fifty to
Speaker 7: one Jalen Jalen Hurts five hundred to one. He is
Speaker 7: ahead of Burrow and Herbert. That means unlikely to be
Speaker 7: benched because of and the last one for unbenchful is
Speaker 7: Kirk Cousins Lamar Jackson. All right, now, let's get to
Speaker 7: those guys who are gonna sit.
Speaker 2: Which quarterback gets benched first game? All right, Todd, I'll
Speaker 2: let you go first.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna say Sam Howell is gonna have a tough
Speaker 8: Sam how.
Speaker 7: The good guess Sam Howe is four to one in
Speaker 7: his second in this list, Oh, likely to be benched.
Speaker 3: Sheet no counter junior the third? You know what?
Speaker 4: This probably isn't it, And it's a little mean spirited,
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna say Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 3: Oh, that was my guess.
Speaker 7: Who else is guessing Baker Mayfield? Who would like another guest?
Speaker 3: Marvin? That was my guest Baker Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 7: The most likely to be bench this year is Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yay.
Speaker 7: All the other guys that are likely to be benched
Speaker 7: Sam Hall four to one, Ryan Tannehill six to one,
Speaker 7: c J. Stroud seven to one, Mac Jones seven to one.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, Bailey Zappie, Jimmy.
Speaker 6: Garoppolo is fourteen to one. He's in the top ten
Speaker 6: of benchables. That's interesting.
Speaker 3: Well, who do they have Jared?
Speaker 6: Did him know that everyone's in love with that? Eight
Speaker 6: and O'Connell guy.
Speaker 3: From Yeah Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2: A couple of boo games, a couple of phone calls here,
Speaker 2: Jeff Jeff in Kansas City, Hi, Jeff, what's on your
Speaker 2: mind today?
Speaker 11: Abp uh?
Speaker 2: Two things.
Speaker 11: One, I think I gotta treat people on the come
Speaker 11: on the field like we treat people. We should start
Speaker 11: treating people that take speaker phones cell phones in public.
Speaker 11: You got to treat them violently. They're not helping it. Okay, Todd,
Speaker 11: I really have a problem with you calling out Kelly Stafford,
Speaker 11: that conversation between you off the record, and then you
Speaker 11: came on your nationally syndicated show and basically blew her
Speaker 11: up over something she wanted to keep private. So I've
Speaker 11: got an issue with that.
Speaker 2: Wait wait, what what did Tod bring uh bring to
Speaker 2: the show?
Speaker 11: The bagel issue when blew up girl who had what
Speaker 11: was it?
Speaker 9: Tuna fish?
Speaker 11: They were out of and everything bagels?
Speaker 2: Okay with Todd, you did use your platform to call
Speaker 2: out that poor girl at uh what.
Speaker 9: D But I didn't give any names or anything. I
Speaker 9: didn't hold her.
Speaker 8: I shouldn't have hold her directly responsible for whatever management's
Speaker 8: decisions were.
Speaker 3: You shouldn't, but you did.
Speaker 9: But we all know.
Speaker 8: Who h Kelly uh Stafford's husband is no one? Uh
Speaker 8: you know I protected the innocent. I think pretty well.
Speaker 8: Little apples and.
Speaker 2: Artists, thank you, and bagels, apples, oranges and bagels.
Speaker 6: Let's a quick Faul.
Speaker 7: Question, which is where it is Todd airing out the
Speaker 7: seventeen year old girl at the bagel chain or Todd
Speaker 7: making the girl working at the front desk help him
Speaker 7: shovel out his car because he couldn't get his car.
Speaker 3: To the hotel when we had a snowsteak snowstore. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think that was worse that you.
Speaker 2: Snowstorm is just like you asked the woman at the
Speaker 2: front desk to help you.
Speaker 8: She brought out the cardboard to stick under the tire,
Speaker 8: and she was working away to help me get that
Speaker 8: moving while I try to keep going back and forth
Speaker 8: in the spot to get out of there.
Speaker 2: She was very sweet, right, couldn't have been a day
Speaker 2: over nineteen Brandon in Virginia.
Speaker 3: Hi Brandon, Hey, good day Dan Patrick.
Speaker 12: Hey, I'm a I think I'm the only Cardinals fan
Speaker 12: that called you guys. I don't think we're taking and
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Speaker 12: whoever would take it. I mean, will not have the
Speaker 12: worst record in NFL this year?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: Does anybody want a piece of Brandon? He says, the
Speaker 2: Cardinals will not have the worst record in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Anybody cacked us to the groin? No, it's no packing
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