WEBVTT - Episode 70: America Chavez 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:12.959 Hello, and welcome to another edition of Nerdificent Time. One 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:15.360 half of your host, Danny Fernandez if he is out 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:18.320 today but joining me. Actually think, is this your first 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:21.239 time on our podcast? This is the first time. Is 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:23.759 one of my best friends who I've never even had 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:25.959 on my own podcast, even though I've had it for 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:28.880 over a year. Um, that's the voice. She's a host 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:32.480 l Ray Network and Night Church. Vanessa Gritten. Thank you. 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:36.000 I'm so excited to be on. Wow, you were krilling 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:38.360 it though, Yes I was. I was on. I was 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:40.720 on krilling it back when I had like early bowl 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:46.400 my hair. Yes, yes it's a little longer in tamer, 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:48.199 but like I had the bangs and anything back when 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:50.720 I was like a blue circle. This is This is 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:52.320 how I know that you're one of my best friends 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:56.000 because you've literally never asked me to be on this show, 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:58.760 whereas like random people that don't know if he and 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:00.880 I are like put us on your show, and then 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:02.880 you're like one of our closest friends, and you're like, 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:05.240 I'm just happy you're doing well. I'm just happy for 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:07.760 you guys. Well, I'm happy for you too. On TV 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:11.520 at L Ray Network, which is Robert Rodriguez's channel that 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:14.200 you're on, and our good friend Hector Navarre, who has 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:16.880 been on here, is also a host with you. I 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:20.840 got it's such a blast. I It's the first job 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:22.640 I've had in a while where they just really let 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.400 me let my freak flag fly, Like, let me get 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:27.160 as weird as I want to be and as niche 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:28.960 as I want to be. Like we have an episode 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:31.440 coming up, or I teach like a fifteen minute Kaiju 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:33.720 class and they let me get really in depth. I 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:38.640 I love it. There, please tag it, We'll share it. Uh. 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:41.039 And then across from me, we have writer and host 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:46.120 Tony Sanchez is. I'm very, very happy and excited to 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:47.720 be here. You and I have been on a couple 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:51.680 of panels at at different comic cons at the cons together. Yes, 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:54.800 I like them all. I love them all because I 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:57.680 mean they've been essentially the same panel, which is talking 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:02.560 about represent a shin and it turns into that yeah, 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:06.520 and it turns into just basically just we I think, uh, 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:10.040 Tamara Brooks Brooks, you know, wrangles together a really great 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:13.280 group of people and we just kind of sit there 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:15.920 and talk about, you know, the world of of fiction 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:18.440 and geeky fiction in particular, and how it's sort of 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:20.919 just reflects the world around us and what we could 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.840 be doing better and how people could be supporting just 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:27.160 quality representation in general. So I've had a blast on 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:32.120 every single panel with Danny so he yeay. Uh. So 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:35.560 we've been starting our podcast with what we're geeking out about, Vanessa, 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:38.640 I was going to start with you. Uh, what I've 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:40.880 really been seeking out about is the announcement for the 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:44.040 new Creep Show series that's going to be coming out. Um. 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:47.799 I really love I love horror, and I love horror 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:51.080 as told in vignettes like to my favorite things that 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:53.799 influenced me a lot growing up, uh where the first 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:57.080 two Cryption movies and Tales from the Crypt Uh. And 0:02:57.160 --> 0:02:58.959 I feel like a lot of a lot of horror 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:00.519 things that come out now are really fun, but they're 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:03.280 also like very art house and bleak. And it's not 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:05.080 that I don't like them, it's just they could be 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:09.200 exhausting when that's all you really have. And creep Show 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:12.200 at its heart has always been really fun. Uh, It's 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:14.440 always been Yes, it's a horror bet at the end 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:18.919 of the day, it's really fun and entertaining and sometimes silly. 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.880 If you've seen the second movie, it gets real silly. 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:25.120 Uh So I am so pumped for the series to 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:27.080 actually like come out and be a thing because it 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:30.600 also gives like really great indie horror writers and directors 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:33.360 a spotlight that they wouldn't otherwise get to have. Yeah, 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:36.080 when is it coming out? God? What was it released? State? 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:38.840 So is it doing something that Halloween Hornets? It's also 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:40.920 doing something at Halloween Hornets. And here's the exciting thing 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:43.320 about it at Hornet's is not only are they like 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:46.360 working stuff from the current show that's about to come 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.440 into it, but also there are going to be elements 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:51.280 of the first two movies in the maze, So it's 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:54.680 going to be like a full encapsulation of the Creep 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:58.480 Show franchise as a whole. Um twenty nineteen is when 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:01.120 they yeah, they don't really say, I bet. I'm imagine 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:03.720 it's before Halloween. May. Yeah, it's probably gonna be before Halloween. 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:06.760 Does that mean that you'll go to Horror Knight's with me? Yes, 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:09.960 it's my first Night's. Yeah, because you know I could 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:11.960 have sworn that you said no when I asked you. 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:14.160 You know, they give me tickets and everybody says no. 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:17.360 If he says no, Danielle says no, nobody wants to go, 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:20.960 So you're gonna go. I'm I'm finally gonna do it, okay, 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:25.719 because like I had, I'm finally like turning around on 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:29.159 I love horror, but I'm like really bad about horror mazes. Uh. 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:31.480 And I think it's because, for I was working on 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:33.400 an article where I had to go to like horror 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:37.479 mazes where they can touch you. Uh no no, And 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:39.240 after doing with three of them in a row, I 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:42.839 was like, I'm good for like five years. Uh. And 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:45.520 now I'm like working my way back into horror mazes. 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:50.760 And but now that they're fun again, Yeah, because writing 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:54.359 it down in my planner, Ate, Tony, what about you? 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:57.040 What are you geking out about? As always, I'm always 0:04:57.080 --> 0:05:02.400 rewatching Golden Girls. It seems like, um, it's so obvious, 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.080 like watching rewatching it as an adult where I'm like, God, 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:07.920 this is everything that is me, And it's so obvious 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:09.560 that I watched it a lot as a kid and 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:13.039 everything just sort of informed my personality and my study. 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:14.800 Like I was at Target the other day and my 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:16.359 sister was like, well, what are you looking for? And 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:19.000 I'm like, I just sort of want this like late 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:23.080 eighties like Florida Pastel chics, and I'm like, I'm describing 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.520 the Golden Girl, so like that's exactly what I'm describing 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:28.960 in the poem. Yeah, exactly. Um. The other thing that 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:30.880 I'm thinking out about is that I'm prepping for a 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:33.640 dragon Con, which is like my mecca. It's like my 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:38.000 Recharge Con in Atlanta, Georgia, and it's like all my 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:41.159 weird costplays get to come out and play, not just 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:46.400 like you know, popular superhero spandex costplays. So like, for example, 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:49.000 like this is what's happening with my costplays. It's like 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:53.159 Carmen san Diego, Benny the Cab from Roger Rabbit. This 0:05:53.360 --> 0:06:05.120 is why, Yes, Tracy term Lad from Hairspray. I rewatched 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:08.080 Drop Dead Gorgeous last week and I've decided to go 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:11.200 ahead and bring the physical Fitness number where they you know, 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:14.640 dance with the freshly painted step ladders and they end 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:16.840 up with blue paint all over them. I'm bringing that 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:20.320 to life too, So I yeah, I just really really 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:24.440 loved the opportunity to make really obscure a niche cosplays 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:26.839 where it's like ten people are going to like recognize it, 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:28.960 but those ten people are gonna be so excited, and 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:33.520 so I'm just really excited for just really silly little cosplays. 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:38.080 What's your Tracy outfit? My Tracy eltfit. It's the Roach gown. 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:42.360 It's the Miss Auto Show. Like and the last time 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:45.720 I wore this, I had some like teenage girl come 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:47.800 up to me and she thought that I was dressing 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:52.359 up as Alaska from RuPaul's Drag Race because Alaska wore this, 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:54.880 I guess on some reunion special and I was like, 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:58.679 your clothes, you're so close and it's not your fault 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:04.320 because you're twelve, but no, it's Tracy. So yeah, I 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:06.960 it's my favorite con ever, Like if you ever just 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:08.760 sort of like, wow, would I ever do that? Like 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:11.119 Dragon Con is the place to do that. I dressed 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:14.240 up as Rod Sterling one year at l a comic con, 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:16.760 but like and I had to put the spiral behind me. 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:18.800 I had a little cigarette which I couldn't like, and 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:21.040 I had like his eyebrows drawn in, and I was 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:24.600 wearing a suit but the suit with the cigarette. People 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:29.040 were like pulp fiction but like but it was because 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.120 I would pull the spiral out of my back, so 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:32.840 like I didn't have to walk around. I had the 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:35.960 spiral like taped to a yardstick so you could tell. 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:41.360 But then yeah, without the prop but yeah, looked amazing. 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:43.880 It was fun. It was fun. And my friend Mark 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:45.840 Ellis was one of the pig doctors from one of 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:49.800 the episodes. I was going to say, I have trauma 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:54.280 with Benny from uh from who frame Roger Rabbit because 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:57.800 he's always broken down Disneyland. If you live in l A, 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:00.760 you know, or southern California, you know what we're talking about. 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:04.600 That right, is always broken down. I've written it once 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:07.160 out of like the hundreds of times that I've been 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:09.800 for an hour and then you get to the front 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:16.280 and sorry rides down. Yeah yeah. Also the shoe, the 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:18.600 dipping of the shoe. I just can't handle it. There 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:21.840 was a Guay last year. He showed up as doctor 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:25.480 and he had the full oil barrel with like glowing 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:28.320 like green google coming like you know, it was obviously 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:31.040 just a light effect, but I literally was like, you're 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:34.360 a horrible monster, and I walked away from him. What 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:36.800 are you going? As the antelope from the Lion and 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:40.439 he was the Wilder Beast, I mean that holding and 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:42.480 he would like that was his whole deal. He had 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:45.040 the actual shoe with like a sad little expression on 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:47.160 his face, holding over the oil barrel, and I was like, 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:50.000 you're a monster. I am convinced anybody that caused plays 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:55.080 as Judge is a sociopathlete going as a hunter, that 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:59.000 hurt that killed baby's mom. What are we doing here? 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:03.600 Oh god, um, we are here today because we're talking 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:07.480 about one of our favorite superheroes of all time, and 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:12.720 that is America Javes. Correct man, what is y'all's first 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:17.719 introduction to America? My first introduction to America jav Is. 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:22.080 I knew she existed when she was first created and 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:24.080 she was with the Teen Brigade, but like, I never 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:27.120 really read read anything with her. My first introduction was 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:31.839 issue one of the jam Kelvey and Karen Gillen Young 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:35.040 Avengers Run. Just because she was right on the cover, 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:39.040 run and center, you knew exactly who she was when 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:42.640 she was about she had this great denim jacket and 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:45.640 like high top sneakers and these like little black shorts. 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:49.439 The hoop earrings was what a thousand percent sold me. 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:52.320 But I've read all of her stuff since then, but 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:55.240 that was my introduction to her and the personality that 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:59.200 they gave her. Just surly and take new prisoners, what 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:05.560 about you, tony um Tumbler. Really that's such a funny 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.160 way to find a superhero totally because it was like 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:11.440 people that were really really pumped about this new character 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:14.160 because I wasn't reading, you know, the comics that she 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:17.520 was appearing when she was debuting, So all of a sudden, 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:19.520 she just started showing up on my timeline and not 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:22.400 just like bit by bit, like consistently, and I was like, 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:25.480 what is going on? And it's just people writing these 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:27.280 I don't know if you've been on Tumbler, but it's 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:29.719 a wonderful place for thing pieces and people to just 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:33.040 like geek out with like entire five you know, page 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:35.240 essay about what they love about this character. And I 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:38.240 was like, this sounds like literally like a dream come true, 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:43.080 like a queer Latin, a strong, you know, superhero who 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:46.560 dresses in streetwear and denim and combat boots. I'm like, 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:48.920 this is literally everything I was ever asking for as 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:53.080 a kid, and it just it just like blew my 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:55.760 mind of just like this is obviously everything that I've 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:59.920 been looking for, and it's here. How amazing is that? Yeah? 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:01.760 So for people that don't know, or you're like, who's 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:05.160 America Chaves? Which I still get some people, how does 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:08.679 that happen? Even in our community? Literally all the time, 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:12.360 I was literally on a shoe for you know, uh, 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:17.040 an online influencer and uh I had some of the 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:19.480 books out, you know, the West Coast Avengers books, and 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:20.840 they were like, oh what are you doing. I'm like, well, 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:23.280 I'm going to be talking about America Chavez later Like who? 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:26.760 And I'm like Miss America America Chaves Like oh, that's 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:31.000 her name, Like, yeah, well, where have you been? Hello? 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:35.360 She's like the biggest Latina superhero? Um? Well yeah. So. 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:38.520 America Chave is also known as Miss America, is from 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:42.480 Marvel Comics. She was created by Joe Casey and Nick Dragoda. Um. 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:45.280 She's the second character to use the monica Miss America 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:49.160 after Madeline Joyce, and she first appeared in Vengeance number 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:53.280 one back in September of eleven, before she ended up 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:57.720 starting in her own ongoing series, America, which launched March 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.679 seventeen by writer Gabby Rivera. Uh So, she's Marvel's first 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:05.480 Latin American lgbt Q character to start in an ongoing 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:09.439 series Pretty Dope, And actually Gabby has a Ted talk 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:15.480 up about how she was asked to write America and 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:18.679 then um like the stories that weren't important to her. 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:22.560 And I love that Ted talk. Yeah, it's uh, it's 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:24.760 a really sweet Ted talk because she really talks and 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:27.480 touches on something that I think is a reason a 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:30.040 lot of people love the American Job as character, and 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:33.440 that is women of color, especially women of color in 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:38.679 superhero type roles, never get to really be soft. Uh. 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:41.480 And if we are soft, were soft in a way 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:43.760 that's very like broken, and people don't respond to it well. 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:46.760 Uh And and a big part of that is, both 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.800 in comics and in reality, Latina's tend to have to 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.480 be very strong for the outside world, but at home 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:55.240 is the only time we can feel that that softness, 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:59.319 that that world weary weakness. And that Ted talk is 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:02.560 gorgeous because Gabby talks about seeing her aunties and her 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:04.840 mom and the women in the Bronx that would leave 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:06.600 their softness at home and how much she wanted to 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:10.679 push that onto that character and allow her to be soft. Yeah, 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:12.400 she even talked about I mean, I think just people 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:14.400 in color in general, don't really get the luxury of 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:16.400 like whenever you cry, it's like, suck it up, don't 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:17.920 let them see you cry, like you know, you need 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.160 to move on, like we don't have. It's also a 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:24.560 reason why therapy has been such a debated issue and 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:27.280 so so taboo and some of these communities, because it's 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:30.640 just like you don't have the luxury of just going 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:34.040 of you know, of just they're doing real life things, 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:37.240 you know, to them. It's like I can't cry about 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:40.240 I can't go to therapy and cry about depression or 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:42.440 relationship what I might get shot by the cops. Like 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:45.439 it's just you know, it's like you're it's it's just 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:50.360 this this universe, this world in which you're right where 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:52.600 you you have to constantly be strong at all times. 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:56.400 And so she talks about that, uh in that Ted talk. 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.680 But yeah, so America. I was introduced to America Chavez 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:04.120 actually from Christopher Smith Bryant, who is a comedian and 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:07.400 he's been on a couple of our our episodes. Uh, 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:11.000 and he I think was reading Young Avengers, like you 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.400 have to read this series. There's like a character you 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:15.520 have to there's someone in here that I think that 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:17.959 you're going to really love um. And then I saw 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:19.640 her and I'm like, oh cool, she looks like me, 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:23.200 Like she literally looks like me, and she has my jaw. Um. 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:25.440 So I was like, dope, another cool thing because I 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:29.120 get teased about that and I think, uh, I don't know. 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:31.880 I think superheroes. Another thing that Gabby talked about and 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:34.760 that Ted talk is she was like, I don't look 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:37.760 like a superhero. I don't look like how superheroes have 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:41.200 been made forever. So I didn't think that that that 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:44.320 was like something possible for me. Um and for me 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:47.840 to see like, oh, she has you know, thick curly hair, 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:50.840 she has gorgeous lips, she has like you know, all 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:54.080 of these things that I think are are are beautiful 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:56.920 but have been kind of shut out of strong, full body, 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:00.840 like you know, I'm just excited to see it. Yeah, 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:06.560 she's all thighs, she's she is um okay. So, so 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:09.280 diving into the character of America, did one of you 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:11.040 want to talk a little bit about her back story? 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:15.800 I don't like where she comes from or her personality. Yeah. Um, 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:21.800 so backstory. She's from an alternate dimension called Utopia. She 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:24.960 was Autopian parallel Utoonian parallel, and she was raised by 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:29.080 two moms, uh, which if you have one Latina mom, 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:32.880 you can only imagine how two of them would shape 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.640 you into becoming a human being. And when she was 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:39.080 six years old, both those moms um when the Utopian 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:42.800 parallel was under threat, basically sacrifice themselves to close of 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:47.160 a black hole. And that was when, uh. Shortly thereafter, 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:49.760 she took it upon herself to stick on her own 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:53.160 and prove her own abilities as a hero and essentially 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:56.840 ran away into different dimensions because guess what, she can 0:15:56.920 --> 0:16:00.200 kick holes in a different dimensions. That's one of my 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:02.880 favorite descriptions of her power because anytime somebody's like, what 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.240 does America do, it's like, she's really strong, and she's 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:07.360 really fast, and she has superstantama and also she could 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:10.640 punch holes into different universes and dimensions there in the 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:14.120 shape of stars. Yeah. And then she eventually joined the 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:18.239 teen Brigade. So when she joined the Teen Brigade, initially 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:22.640 it was to help um free the in between her 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:25.360 because I believe he was under Loki's clutches at the time. 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:29.440 Um Or Loki was trying to recruit him and she 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:31.800 was almost she was basically co lead of the Team 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:34.560 Brigade Team Brigade with Ultimate Nulla Fire, and that's kind 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:37.000 of when she also started to experiment with her sexuality 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:40.440 because she briefly had like a fling with him. They kissed, 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:44.680 but it wasn't really her thing. Eventually, with the Team Brigade, 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:47.720 it let down. It like led to a battle in 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:52.080 Latin Area against Doom, and then she at the beginning 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:53.920 of Young Avengers, which is when you see her again 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:58.280 later when she chases Young Loki to Earth to one too, 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:02.640 she only really says about because she abruptly left the 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.840 Teen Brigade. We broke up due to musical differences, and 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:09.000 that's all she'll say about it. Uh. And then eventually 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:11.840 from Teen Brigade for when she chases looking down to 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:14.040 Earth two one two that she finds herself on six 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:18.119 one six, and that's where we start the Young Avengers. Yeah, yeah, 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:20.080 you know, I'm just I'm looking at something. I didn't 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:23.919 realize that. She also appeared in the Hawkeye series. Okay, 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:26.320 it says in a possible future depicted in the second 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:28.960 volume of the Hawkeye series an adult America, Chavez is 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:31.000 a member of Shield I wasn't aware of that and 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:34.520 has taken on the mantle of Captain America. Wouldn't mind 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:39.960 that happening. Ye, wouldn't mind that happening whole whole bunch. 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:43.720 That would be holidayptacy. Um. Yeah, she was briefly in 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:49.320 the hockey comic just because she's very frequently find you 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:53.120 find her with a Kate Bishop. They're very close, both 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:56.320 from Young Avengers and several comics onward. Because I know 0:17:56.400 --> 0:18:00.480 there was one arc where she ended up being hunished 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:04.840 to work for Shield because she broke several intimate interdimensional 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:10.600 laws by throwing a shark. It's a if you ever 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:12.920 get a chance, look up why that happened and look 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:16.080 up those panels. She's just throwing a big gash shark. 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:20.280 I love that stupid arc so much. Um. Yeah, So, Tony, 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:22.800 what were some of your favorite moments from Like America 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:26.480 that you remember reading? I remember just well. The whole 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:29.680 premise of it is that we've reached a point past 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:32.800 you know, her being on Team Brigrade and also being 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:36.040 part of Young Avengers, and now she's attending college and 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:40.960 she's going to Soda Mayor University, named after the first 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:44.000 Latina Supreme Court justice, so do Mayor. And it's like 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:47.639 there's an actual hologram of judges so to Mayor just 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:50.600 like greeting the students and saying like, hey, everybody, welcome 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.719 to my university. And I remember, just, um, you know, 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:56.600 one of the big you know, just spreads, you know, 0:18:56.600 --> 0:19:00.760 the two page spread is a campus map, and that's 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:02.960 so cool. And I just was like I was actually 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:04.840 reading this, like I got to know this because I 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:08.560 eventually want to go to this place. And there's, oh god, 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:10.560 what is the name of it. It's something called like 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:14.919 the Department of Radical Women and Intergalactic Indigenous People's or 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:17.800 something like that. And I just was like, I'm never 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:20.280 going to read that anywhere else but in this book. 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:22.719 And I love this book so much because of just 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:25.280 that one little detail. And from that point, I mean 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:28.240 that's only I think maybe the fourth or fifth page 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:30.159 at that point, but at that point, I was just 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:33.960 I was hooked, and I was just like already, just 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:36.959 something as simple as just the fact that there is 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:40.560 a university, you know, filled with like super genius people 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:44.240 and other people who have abilities, and that is named 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:47.920 after such a pivotal, you know, person in history, and 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:51.679 I think is that the comic where we met her 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:56.600 girlfriend too, well, we meet um. Actually the book starts 0:19:56.920 --> 0:20:01.320 with her reuniting with Lisa, her girlfriend, and it's not 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:05.080 long before Lisa and America kind of go their separate ways. 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:07.119 Lisa says, like, you know, we're not heading in the 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:11.240 same direction, and America just kind of, you know, punches 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:13.879 a hole into the universe and just goes off. But 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:16.119 I think I remember her picking her up and is 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:20.080 that Do you remember that? Which one am I thinking of? Maybe? 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:22.160 I think where she like shows up on the doorstep 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:27.920 and she picks her up and takes her to the department. Yeah, yes, no, 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:29.800 that is the one I'm thinking I remember that. It 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:31.760 was very like you were saying, it was super soft. 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:34.320 Here she is picking her up and she's kind of 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:37.600 like straddling, and then like the next shot is obviously 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:40.879 like you know, after sex, and you know they're just 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:43.359 sort of like snuggling in bed and starting out with 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:47.119 an extremely intimate moment, which was really cool that they 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:49.919 got to do from Marvel Comics is like huge, you know, 0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:54.720 mainstream thing to have this intimate moment between this this 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:59.560 superhero and it wasn't played for like you know, salacious value. 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:01.200 It was just like, no, this is just a really 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:04.040 sweet moment between two people. This is an opportunity for 0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:07.760 her to allow to put her guard down. Yeah, so 0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:12.840 you Vanessa where came into the studio wearing America Javas jacket? 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:15.200 You want to talk about some of her fashion because 0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:18.479 I know that you love her her cause play is legit, 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:20.520 like when I love when I see America cause play. 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:23.520 But what are some of your favorite things that she's 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:26.600 or some of her favorite outfits? Like, I every single 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:29.960 person that's like jumped onto the America Chaves story from 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:31.960 like when we first saw her to like now with 0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:33.960 the West Coast Avengers, everyone's had their turn it like 0:21:34.040 --> 0:21:35.960 because she's a really fun one to like do different 0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:39.120