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Speaker 1: Right now, before we established our guest because our guests,
Speaker 1: it's so I've been wanting this guy to be here
Speaker 1: so long. But before we astib with our guests, I
Speaker 1: want to pick up to the low Wild Smokes mansion,
Speaker 1: the office, the people in the Hollywood Hills, who has
Speaker 1: taking care of us, providing the smoke, providing the ash trays,
Speaker 1: and providing the hospitality. Let's bring up to a little
Speaker 1: world what we think about guest today. We think of
Speaker 1: the person that you think is not listen Listen, you
Speaker 1: think that he's not getting a lot of pussy, but
Speaker 1: he's getting a lot of hustle. Chris Rock, who thinks that,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you, like,
Speaker 1: as a person like who's married, I like to look
Speaker 1: at people who are single, and I like to appreciate
Speaker 1: you all. And you're looking appreciation Hall of Fame appreciate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, he's not him down. He's out there,
Speaker 1: he's living right, He's doing what you gotta do. He's
Speaker 1: from Brooklyn. And listen, not only that, not only that,
Speaker 1: I feel like he's like the black Slime Secrets. You
Speaker 1: did say that earlier, because he got like ten shows.
Speaker 1: He's on BT, he's on Netflix, he's on UM, CBS Netflix,
Speaker 1: he's on CBSBA. He's this motherfucker got so many shows.
Speaker 1: He don't even know how many shows he got. And
Speaker 1: he's right here with us right now on j Chaps
Speaker 1: to network. Motherfucker. Let's make some noise and welcome to
Speaker 1: motherfucker right. Brother. Every week I see you on another
Speaker 1: show and it just makes me brown because I'm like,
Speaker 1: this guy's out here and you're sucking the industry. Because
Speaker 1: usually the industry fox up usually like usually, well the
Speaker 1: niggas getting bent down. They're like this nigga hit me today.
Speaker 1: But you're like this, you're clearly like you now, you're mister.
Speaker 1: You know what I saw a long time ago. If
Speaker 1: you watch any sitcom, Let's that's Let's sitcom for instance,
Speaker 1: you watch me sitcom from the eighties and the nineties
Speaker 1: two thousand, the names behind when the when the credits roll,
Speaker 1: the names behind the cameras, all they always the same,
Speaker 1: the names in front of the cameras three or four
Speaker 1: years and they've done. So I'm trying to be behind
Speaker 1: the camera and last forever, I'll do my time in
Speaker 1: front of the camera. But whensover, I'm gonna be set
Speaker 1: myself up behind the camera. Damn that. So my name
Speaker 1: was just going to strolling and you'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I didn't even see him in it. You didn't see
Speaker 1: me anything I produced it. You didn't see anything I
Speaker 1: directed it. You didn't see anything I created it. You
Speaker 1: didn't see me and I wrote it. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I'm setting myself up for the long holder.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I'll sound effects is crazy. A
Speaker 1: sound of it, you know, for I just might hide
Speaker 1: you just just just just but you gotta get through
Speaker 1: the back story. So it's NBA All Stars Sunday. I
Speaker 1: knew that, you know, people were gonna be watching the
Speaker 1: game and doing whatever they was going to get ready
Speaker 1: for parties tonight. So I knew if I'm gonn to
Speaker 1: come here, I'm not gonna waste your time. Boy, y'all
Speaker 1: brings some entertainment. I'm not gonna bring some friends, friends
Speaker 1: and drinking and smoked time right here. I got, I
Speaker 1: got friends in the building. I got friends in the building.
Speaker 1: Say I'm not gonna lie, say happen. And here's the
Speaker 1: crazy thing about how you compromise my marriage. Let me
Speaker 1: just throw it out there, you know, just keeping there
Speaker 1: because I'm keeping there because usually, you know, somebody would
Speaker 1: come over and then like something would slip. But the
Speaker 1: ship that he got slipping, like he had just a
Speaker 1: black titty just slipping. It's just it's just black titty
Speaker 1: out there. It's just likely like and you know, I
Speaker 1: like black titties, So I'm like, just like cool, it's
Speaker 1: just a black titty out there. I'm like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: she got a black titty. Just just out there, and
Speaker 1: then you have a light scaled white pussy. It's just
Speaker 1: something light scares are. It's two different things. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: to me. You know, you know I'm half black, half
Speaker 1: water wet. Okay, but you just had it out there,
Speaker 1: and I'm just saying I just didn't expect Tony Rock
Speaker 1: to come through with a just a black chinny just
Speaker 1: hanging out there and just hanging out. It wasn't my purpose.
Speaker 1: But I knew I wasn't wear an underwear. And I'm
Speaker 1: very open and free as a woman, so I'm good
Speaker 1: she free as a woman. Man, I have no idea
Speaker 1: what that means. Please, um, I can you elaborate. I'm comfortable.
Speaker 1: We do whatever we feel. So well if it's a comfortable.
Speaker 1: If you can't hesitated to drink, you can't get money, man,
Speaker 1: they can't get money. I'm gonna sit listen. We can't
Speaker 1: get his money here. Let me just tell yall something.
Speaker 1: I so much respect a person being who the fun
Speaker 1: they want to be. I'm deaf with this. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: you know. I'm listen, you're tired. It's okay, we want
Speaker 1: to I'm sorry. I don't want you. I don't want
Speaker 1: you to get arrested. You know, like I mean, I
Speaker 1: felt like he was going somewhere from something that's cool,
Speaker 1: somewhere right, Okay, you feel to go. I gotta address addressed.
Speaker 1: I was inappropriate right now. I gotta yet, I gotta
Speaker 1: I gotta get right. I gotta get right. So, Tony Rock,
Speaker 1: how does a person coming from who you are right now? Now?
Speaker 1: You have a unw situation. Yes, I's a unique say
Speaker 1: you have a neat sit situation where you actually have
Speaker 1: a famous brother that had when they made it up
Speaker 1: to a certain place, right, but that doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: you're gonna make it to a second place. Absolutely, So
Speaker 1: how are you saying to yourself? You know what, love
Speaker 1: big Bro? I think mcbro was the greatest in the world,
Speaker 1: got the illest thing. Because it's like jay Z and
Speaker 1: you actually right, how do you say, Yeah, jay Z
Speaker 1: is my brother and I love jay Z, but I
Speaker 1: still got to be my old jay Z. Yeah, how
Speaker 1: does that start? Because it doesn't matter if it's your
Speaker 1: brother or your friend or relative or just a homie.
Speaker 1: Whatever they do is for them. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: You gotta be on your own path. And like, once
Speaker 1: you realize that you're in your own lane, then you
Speaker 1: don't worry about what the next man is doing, good
Speaker 1: or bad, you know what I'm saying. So when somebody
Speaker 1: fucked up in the game, you're still like, I gotta
Speaker 1: do my thing. When somebody getting it, you gotta go
Speaker 1: all right, good for them. I applaud you, but I
Speaker 1: still got to do my thing. What I'm saying, I
Speaker 1: concerned myself with the checks that say Tony brock On,
Speaker 1: I don't concern myself with the checks to say nobody else.
Speaker 1: But but Big Big Girl started before Big Big Brother
Speaker 1: does everything first. Let's be honest. Big brother was able
Speaker 1: to go in the street then play football before I was.
Speaker 1: Does that mean I shouldn't want to go on street
Speaker 1: and football because you already give it? Big brother was
Speaker 1: able to go on dates before me. Does that mean
Speaker 1: I shouldn't want to go on dates because he already
Speaker 1: did it? So it's just like, yo, he did it first.
Speaker 1: But I don't mean I can't do it the same,
Speaker 1: gonna do it better? You know? But how intimidating was
Speaker 1: that was? Because it's not like it's not like your
Speaker 1: brother was fucking um like Jack Brock's little brother, like
Speaker 1: your brother is it wasn't he was Frank Stallone? Yeah,
Speaker 1: your brother is talking shout Frank alone is the first name.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Brother is actually the guy. He's
Speaker 1: the guy. Here's the guy that's the blueprint. Like he's working,
Speaker 1: Like how how hard is that? Like? Like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest, right, if fucking my brother was the berth
Speaker 1: of Duran, right, because I'm Puerto Rican, right, So I
Speaker 1: just went, wait, are you a boxing this? This is
Speaker 1: the reason why he knew he knows it? Are you?
Speaker 1: It's the stone? So if if my brother was, we're
Speaker 1: Bertho Duran right, and he's the guy that's gonna box
Speaker 1: and beat all the like I wouldn't want to box.
Speaker 1: But that's a perfect analogy. Gonna watch me flip. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's say your brothers Mike Tyson, right, let's say your
Speaker 1: brothers Mike Tyson and now your boxer. It don't matter
Speaker 1: who he thought and what he did in the ring,
Speaker 1: you still gotta take those punches on your own. You
Speaker 1: still gotta throw those punches on your own. So whatever
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson did, your brother Mike Tyson did it, don't
Speaker 1: reflect on what you do even don't you do the
Speaker 1: same thing. He got knocked out in round tens by
Speaker 1: bust of others. That don't mean that you're gonna lose
Speaker 1: to so and so in round ten is that was
Speaker 1: his fight, This is your fight. We do the same thing,
Speaker 1: but it's a different fight, and it's only it's it's
Speaker 1: weird because only in entertainment, doesn't seem like, you know,
Speaker 1: if it was two brothers Brogan McDonald's, nobody would give
Speaker 1: a fuck because no, no, But he's two brothers managing
Speaker 1: the fucking chinkles. Nobody giving fun. But for some reason
Speaker 1: there's two brothers in the industry in the same brown
Speaker 1: that there's no way, there's no way that's doing awesome
Speaker 1: for each other. But let me brack for you because
Speaker 1: it's in proper for you guys to make sure she's
Speaker 1: gonna live. You know, I'm okay, Like when they come
Speaker 1: to you, like when they come to Dream Champs alive
Speaker 1: and they leave dad, we love it because but you know, honestly,
Speaker 1: you guys are two brothers from Brooklyn, And just so
Speaker 1: you know, I have seven brothers and two sisters. They
Speaker 1: heard that. We've heard jas Chris Andre, Tony Derek, Brian,
Speaker 1: Kinny Corn, Andy Jordan's. But it's the two. That's that's
Speaker 1: Baby Rose. Maybe Rose Entertainment rolls the show on Netflix
Speaker 1: called love Baby rolls on to our baby bros. Netflix
Speaker 1: because they are big enough black and you had I'm no,
Speaker 1: that was no baby. It was no baby. Let's explain
Speaker 1: what happens to you and Monica. I got off the plane.
Speaker 1: Monica said, that's how you know I'm sucked up? Doesn't
Speaker 1: I got to plane. This is the whole story. I
Speaker 1: got off the plane at l a X TEMs rand
Speaker 1: up on me. Hey, Julian, Monique got offered five whatever
Speaker 1: that was, and didn't know that Amy, she one has
Speaker 1: got whatever whatever I said, Yo, I was always taught,
Speaker 1: and I please, anybody doesn't. I don't know anybody's don't
Speaker 1: Please tell me if you was taught differently, please tell me.
Speaker 1: Don't come. I was taught you never count nobody else money?
Speaker 1: Is anybody else anything? Can say that he wasn't taught
Speaker 1: that right, That's what I was told. Right. So I
Speaker 1: never said she didn't deserve more money. I never said
Speaker 1: she shouldn't get more money. I never said Amy, she
Speaker 1: was worth more. I just said don't cons man money.
Speaker 1: That's what I said, But it was crazy social context.
Speaker 1: Social media went crazy. Yo, you don't love black women,
Speaker 1: your sisters, you don't want hunters. Twitter was bunn, you
Speaker 1: don't love black people. I don't hate. It makes it
Speaker 1: seem weird because I'm saying with a white girl behind me,
Speaker 1: but you don't love it was crazy white girl, by
Speaker 1: the way, like it's the normal black I never said
Speaker 1: she didn't deserve you know what I'm saying. And then
Speaker 1: I said when they asked me about it again in
Speaker 1: the next interview, I said, if she had a real issue,
Speaker 1: don't do it on social media. Don't tweet and post
Speaker 1: on Facebook. Coolie, she don't have my number, but I'm
Speaker 1: sure why my Monique said that. You didn't like she
Speaker 1: was like Tony Rock didn't support But this is the thing.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. When Nick is doing on social media,
Speaker 1: you do want from the people looking at it. You
Speaker 1: don't really have a genuine problem with that person. You
Speaker 1: want eyes to see you. I don't do it on
Speaker 1: social media. I do it in real life. And I
Speaker 1: got a problem with you. I don't have your number,
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure to find it about wanting you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I was like, Yo, she
Speaker 1: just called me. But in real life, right now, Tony Roight,
Speaker 1: I think all the money. No, no, no, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that, Tony Rock. Right now, we're life. You have
Speaker 1: a budget five million dollar buy and you gotta you
Speaker 1: got a million dollars, I'm giving it away or I
Speaker 1: gotta be Okay, I gotta give away for what? You know?
Speaker 1: You got a million project, you have five million, you
Speaker 1: already gave away four Okay, I got a million million
Speaker 1: to do? What to hire a woman in your film?
Speaker 1: And this has nothing to do with race A million
Speaker 1: your film, and it boils down to Amy strom S. No,
Speaker 1: I think they both worth more than a million. So
Speaker 1: a million, I'd be like, damn, I wouldn't. That's not
Speaker 1: the question. That's not what's just like saying, that's the
Speaker 1: budget and those are the two people. That's the budget,
Speaker 1: and that's all I got. Hard choices, those are your choice.
Speaker 1: Who was Tony Rock? I wouldn't give up to Monique? Okay,
Speaker 1: the role next ship that of Special? I was special.
Speaker 1: It's a role, Okay, what's the wrongs that I get
Speaker 1: a role? What's what's the role your toique. Listen, let
Speaker 1: me tell you something, Monique. I think we really love them,
Speaker 1: but we talked on people gets through that I had
Speaker 1: an issue. I I don't have any I said, why
Speaker 1: we didn't feel her movement in the black community was
Speaker 1: because we're looking at your brother getting twenty million, We're
Speaker 1: looking at Dave getting It's clearly she wanted us the
Speaker 1: boycott Netflix before my brother's special area boycott ship when
Speaker 1: it's coming in a week. I got a boycott and
Speaker 1: my brother, my brother especially coming and I got I
Speaker 1: can to do that. I can't have that. I'll give
Speaker 1: it you later, but I can't tell much right now.
Speaker 1: Everybody dropped this motherfucker's ship was saying, listen, and I
Speaker 1: love Monique. I do love Monique, and I want to
Speaker 1: but I just didn't feel like the timing was correct,
Speaker 1: Like she didn't she didn't um check in with the
Speaker 1: Black delegation. Like at some point when we hope, when
Speaker 1: we when we contest as black people, we have to
Speaker 1: go through a delegation, right and we have to go
Speaker 1: acts and like like instance, we got to make sure
Speaker 1: all black people like she did with it right now,
Speaker 1: so we gotta wait till she's wake up. Right? Did
Speaker 1: I go too far? No? No, but this is what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and I think, I think, I think naue.
Speaker 1: He didn't actually go check with the Black delegation and
Speaker 1: that's what happened. But now, okay, we have people like
Speaker 1: Mike Apps. Right, wait before you go any further, I'm
Speaker 1: the opening act for Mike Epps tour. So shout out
Speaker 1: to Mike Big. I'm Mike. Mike could have picked anybody
Speaker 1: not being his open that and he picked me. So
Speaker 1: I got major love big people like Mike Apps. When
Speaker 1: you think of Mike dring Champs a Long Night by
Speaker 1: the Way episode, sure, when you're thinking people like Mike
Speaker 1: Epps and you think, damn, yeah, we got my good
Speaker 1: what my man? Goddamn you don't getting this podcast if
Speaker 1: you don't come getting this. So look, So when you
Speaker 1: think of people like Mike as we think, we say
Speaker 1: damn all right, cool, right, But there's also people who
Speaker 1: people look at as Mike Epps superior, like with Kevin Hart, right,
Speaker 1: I don't look at him as a Mike app superior,
Speaker 1: the superior. I don't say I just say you said,
Speaker 1: I just say me. I'm saying there's people like when
Speaker 1: you it's serior, like let me, okay, let me, never
Speaker 1: lets you. Actually I'm gonna give you a better it's
Speaker 1: just like me, right, just like me. But when if
Speaker 1: when you look at certain years I put it in
Speaker 1: a game, there's a red man that comes. He has
Speaker 1: to can come before me because he came before right, right,
Speaker 1: there's a better man because because it came before me.
Speaker 1: And it's the same thing Mike came before Kevin. This
Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to say. But at the same token,
Speaker 1: the people look at keV like a bigger entity, a
Speaker 1: bigger no no, no, listen appear for me. This is
Speaker 1: what it is. The industry will say who's bigger based
Speaker 1: on sales and tour money and movie money and all.
Speaker 1: The industry does that. The people who'll say who the
Speaker 1: champ is. I would rather be the people's champ than
Speaker 1: the industry champ any day. The people say, yo, that's
Speaker 1: the nigg is the truth. The industry says, well, based
Speaker 1: on his new movies and his tour budget and this
Speaker 1: they do that based on numbers because I don't have
Speaker 1: to be the peoples champion because recently, uh see what's
Speaker 1: going on my brother Gone becomes to become to very ticket.
Speaker 1: So recently, one of the best shows that I love
Speaker 1: to watch, The Breakfast Club, had a person that I admire,
Speaker 1: uh said, and he clearly said, Kevin Hart wasn't funny
Speaker 1: me personally, I clearly disagree with him. But again, I'm
Speaker 1: not a comedian. So that's like somebody saying That's like
Speaker 1: somebody like a red Man saying, Nori don't got bars. Right.
Speaker 1: You love red Man, we love red Man, and we
Speaker 1: love LORI. But him saying you don't got bars, you
Speaker 1: have to actually critique that because you're like, damn this,
Speaker 1: this guy is a person who we know who has right.
Speaker 1: So when when phase On said that and Cavins my man,
Speaker 1: the first movie he ever did was called Paper Soldiers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you paid, that's paid? How you be cool? But what
Speaker 1: when I'm face on said it? It fucked me up
Speaker 1: because I was like, damn, it's there certain comedians out
Speaker 1: there that feel like him, just like you said, it
Speaker 1: sucked you up because it just doesn't even seem like
Speaker 1: it makes sense to you. That's why, right, it doesn't.
Speaker 1: That's why I said it must be personal. I said,
Speaker 1: I that sounds like it's personal because I don't know
Speaker 1: two people that would agree with that statement. So this
Speaker 1: is gonna be a personal ship. So if it's personal
Speaker 1: and we don't know what the back story is, let
Speaker 1: us know the back story so we can go, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: so we can have a choice and what side we take.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, if you tell us the back story
Speaker 1: and you know this what he did or this what
Speaker 1: he said, then we go okay, Well, now that makes
Speaker 1: sense that he said that. But right there to just
Speaker 1: say that a blanket statement like that was like, that's
Speaker 1: sound personal, that's sound personal because I don't know two
Speaker 1: or three people that would agree with that, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So something must have happened for him
Speaker 1: to take that stance against a dude that it's worldwide
Speaker 1: recognized as this guy. It just seems like hating. It
Speaker 1: seems like, no, it don't seem like but it didn't
Speaker 1: seems like something's going on for you to find Tony.
Speaker 1: This is the only part that I have to disagree
Speaker 1: with you is is he actually didn't seem like he
Speaker 1: say they actually genuinely if listen, if you if you
Speaker 1: genuinely feel that way, because I genuinely feel a certain
Speaker 1: way about a lot of ship that people don't agree with.
Speaker 1: If you genuinely feel like that, good for you. It's
Speaker 1: all good because the masses. This is what it is.
Speaker 1: Social media created this whole new thing where if you
Speaker 1: don't agree with the masses, you're a hater, if you
Speaker 1: don't follow, if you have an independent thought, you free
Speaker 1: to have an independent thought as long as it's not
Speaker 1: against the ninety nine percent. I have independent thoughts. That's
Speaker 1: always against the nine nine percent time. That's why my
Speaker 1: Twitter is like you you a hater, You don't like
Speaker 1: black women, you don't suppop only because my independent thought
Speaker 1: is it's own here with it And I don't believe
Speaker 1: in what everybody else believe in just because they believe
Speaker 1: in it. I have and I can back that up
Speaker 1: verbally or you know, factually or physically if you want
Speaker 1: to do it what I'm saying. Okay, So let me
Speaker 1: ask you. Did your Twitter tell you that you didn't
Speaker 1: support Unique only when I said you think, I'm so
Speaker 1: sorry apologize money, Um, But your Twitter say that they
Speaker 1: didn't score them only because of what your brother had
Speaker 1: just got. No, it wasn't. I didn't even see a
Speaker 1: lot of tweets about his money. It was just I
Speaker 1: didn't grow I didn't jumped in front of everybody and go, yo,
Speaker 1: let's all fucking say funk Netflix like Netflix. I didn't want.
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo. What I said was, first of all,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not gonna, you know, boycotted because my
Speaker 1: brother's special is still yet to air to I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna boycott. Did you say that in the same sentence? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna boycott my brother specials? Yet you definitely
Speaker 1: because it's like, yo, shoy, that's not my money. Why
Speaker 1: would I fight somebody for your money when you stood
Speaker 1: up in fourth for my money, or for for comics money,
Speaker 1: or fourth for the regulation of paying Okay, so tell
Speaker 1: me all right, So, but when is the time that
Speaker 1: we have to stand up? Like like when when when
Speaker 1: Denzel doesn't get the next skill aboard? Like when is
Speaker 1: the time for us to all stand in humans? And
Speaker 1: because here's the thing, right, here's the thing. Right, you
Speaker 1: might believe in something that I might be your friend, right,
Speaker 1: and I want to believe in what you werelieving, But
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it from a distance, right, and then
Speaker 1: and then and then I'm gonna and then somebody else
Speaker 1: is gonna believe in what I believe when they're gonna
Speaker 1: do you know why? But when is the time for
Speaker 1: you know why that black people to stand and you
Speaker 1: want to know why that happened? Was it Kaled Kaepernick moment?
Speaker 1: Was that moment? Let's let me say something. Black people
Speaker 1: wanna be woke. It seems it's black wood at a
Speaker 1: woke and this black people out a fake woke. That's convenience.
Speaker 1: They're like, you know, I want to. I want to
Speaker 1: be like, I'm against this whatever, but I don't want
Speaker 1: to get in trouble for it. I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I want to be woke at convenie. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: want to. I still want to go to work on Monday.
Speaker 1: I still be woke with my job. The civil rights moment,
Speaker 1: don't take a sipar rights moment, rights moment. The bus boycotts.
Speaker 1: The US boycott was like, yo, it only works if
Speaker 1: everybody's involved. If half of y'all they gets still doing
Speaker 1: on that bus, we fucked. Everybody has to not get
Speaker 1: on the bus. Like for us to boycott the Hill
Speaker 1: today in this day, in the age when nobody's ready
Speaker 1: to be all. We're not watching the NFL, nobody's ready
Speaker 1: to be one dent, we're not supporting whatever. When we
Speaker 1: want to boycott this, when it's one, then that's when
Speaker 1: you affect change black people in this country. Now, let's
Speaker 1: get off the subject. For black people in this country
Speaker 1: make the least amount of money in this country, we
Speaker 1: make the least and spend the most. We make the
Speaker 1: least and spend the most. So if we ever woke
Speaker 1: up one day and say, yo, let's do this. A
Speaker 1: cop shot a young kid in whatever city and the
Speaker 1: cop was from what we know, that wasn't justified. Let's
Speaker 1: all boycott Nike for one year every black person. You
Speaker 1: know what people saying, Yo, y'all better bring that fucking
Speaker 1: compliment charges because these nigs not spending their money with us.
Speaker 1: That's how you affect the white man. You affect the
Speaker 1: white man in this pocket. No, you're right, I want
Speaker 1: to be sin agree with you, but we're not ready
Speaker 1: to do that yet. We're not ready to do that
Speaker 1: yet because you know, I feel like you used the
Speaker 1: wrong example, Nike, give me a better example. I feel
Speaker 1: like we said we don't buy McDonald's for Yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like that's a better example. Okay, so we don't
Speaker 1: go to McDonald's because we know everybody doesn't identified with
Speaker 1: Nike the way we identified with McDonalds. Like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like McDonald's is a universe. I think
Speaker 1: that's a better example. But you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I feel like if a kid died on the McDonald's
Speaker 1: block and we took that same approach because because the
Speaker 1: police killed him McDonald's block and we said, you know what,
Speaker 1: McDonald's didn't do nothing about it, So we're gonna you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like that. I feel like black people are
Speaker 1: not ready to take it there. We're not. Black people
Speaker 1: are not ready to take it where it needs to
Speaker 1: be taking in order to get change. That's what yo.
Speaker 1: I love my people. I'm not against black people like
Speaker 1: black women. I'm for the moving. I'm woping the motherfucker up,
Speaker 1: But y'are not ready to take it where you need
Speaker 1: to be taking to get change, to see a visible,
Speaker 1: actual change in this country. You're not ready to go there.
Speaker 1: So it's just gonna be comfortable. So recently, let's not
Speaker 1: even talking about something that's so so revolution and let's
Speaker 1: go let's talk about something that's something like that's light,
Speaker 1: like lighter. We're gonna bring it back. Makes what makes
Speaker 1: sure she's like that? Right there? You get some water
Speaker 1: or something here. So let's just let's talk about something
Speaker 1: let's light, right, y know what the funk? I'm never leaving.
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing it out there and then throwing it
Speaker 1: off my low off people there, they're too good. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much more, my brother. So let's talk about
Speaker 1: something a little less lightening. Right. Jay Z probably made
Speaker 1: one of the best albums of his whole career, Family
Speaker 1: Feud is the Mother, but you know, one of the
Speaker 1: best album's whole career. Right. Everybody in the rap game
Speaker 1: kind of stepped up more than him. I kind of
Speaker 1: said how annoyed we were that jay Z didn't even
Speaker 1: win one award at the gram What is the problem?
Speaker 1: Before you answer it, what is the problem? The problem
Speaker 1: is we're still looking for the Grammys to get initiation.
Speaker 1: We want to know what it is. You don't really
Speaker 1: want to know what it's. Let's go the record companies.
Speaker 1: The record industry is part of the demise in black society.
Speaker 1: They promote lean SIMPI, lean they promote shooting niggas. Yo,
Speaker 1: how could the record company, let's take I'm not gona
Speaker 1: say a name, but let's take Jack's record company. How
Speaker 1: could you promote the killing of black men, killing other
Speaker 1: black men? How could you say, like, that's some ship
Speaker 1: we're gonna sell and package himself and promote. How could
Speaker 1: you do that? Because don't give a funk about to
Speaker 1: consume the black consumer and the black agree with you,
Speaker 1: but you gotta agree, Listen, you gotta agree drug use.
Speaker 1: They promote violence against women, they prop misogynistic lyrics, they
Speaker 1: promote gay by homophobia. But if you say, how you
Speaker 1: how do you think all the Jewish people in America
Speaker 1: did it? Credit? That's how they did it. And that
Speaker 1: ship don't win no awards Because if a nigga, by
Speaker 1: any chance, if that sparks any niggas bring to be
Speaker 1: on a better path in his life, we don't want that.
Speaker 1: We want you sipping lean, shooting niggas, fuck bitches, baby
Speaker 1: Mama's drama, These funk niggas, Jordan's guns, that's a whole
Speaker 1: on y'all sell them. We don't want you telling niggas
Speaker 1: to buy property and stay with your wife and raise
Speaker 1: your children. Nigga, this is against the fucking status quo.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna win no water and ship, so the
Speaker 1: next nigga won't think of doing it. But why is
Speaker 1: our society is you know whole to the saw that
Speaker 1: don't you think that do? But see this think that's
Speaker 1: why jay Z so dope because jay Z said, you
Speaker 1: know what, this one ain't for the fucking masses and
Speaker 1: for the culture. No, no, this one ain't for the
Speaker 1: masses and the numbers for the culture. This is the
Speaker 1: people came. This one is for the people. The problem
Speaker 1: was he came to the Grammys with his wife, what
Speaker 1: his daughter, even his daughter the last point, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you gotta go. You gotta go sit there with your
Speaker 1: badass wife and your kid. I didn't want no wars,
Speaker 1: but I got more attention to this motherfucker than anybody
Speaker 1: in this space when making depositive stop got Carol, and
Speaker 1: you also problem some loose girls. Let's just play. Let's
Speaker 1: playing just because because that's like lesson my message. Just now. No,
Speaker 1: I like that you come here about listen and look
Speaker 1: she has no underwear. I respected, no, nobody's nobodies. What
Speaker 1: about it. We're just saying that we recognize you have
Speaker 1: on no panties and that's a fantastic thing. I'm just said,
Speaker 1: I'm just doing it out there like me personally, I
Speaker 1: have on boxes. It doesn't it doesn't mean you like
Speaker 1: you might be a better person to me. Yes, but
Speaker 1: how does it work waking up and just say fuck it? Okay,
Speaker 1: this is my first time in California. Wow. Not only that,
Speaker 1: I'm just very comfortable in the woman that I am.
Speaker 1: I'm confident enough to stay in California. They don't wear panties.
Speaker 1: I don't hear anything in California, to be honest, I
Speaker 1: just heard that. I mean, I've heard has been the opposite.
Speaker 1: So you just go out there and go to skate
Speaker 1: bro and let's just do it. I'm wherever. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I want to be there. Well, yes, it
Speaker 1: is so fucking fantastic. We want to tell you that
Speaker 1: we appreciate you. I just want to say me and
Speaker 1: this is not our first time meeting me and Tony,
Speaker 1: uh you know tot Okay, Um, well I was on anything.
Speaker 1: I'm about to say. I thought you was like, okay,
Speaker 1: so I was on a date. Just um, a man,
Speaker 1: barnt me there and he was a man, a man.
Speaker 1: I was on a day with a man, not a woman.
Speaker 1: You never So he brought me to the show and
Speaker 1: then he was talking about relationships and being comfortable and
Speaker 1: you're skinna. I mentioned some men get like like being
Speaker 1: penetrated ass. I don't know. I never talked about this.
Speaker 1: To continue ahead. Um, so I had mentioned that out loud,
Speaker 1: like I'm very comfortable in anything that I say. Um,
Speaker 1: it's very true. I've meant men that like to be
Speaker 1: fucking the ass strapline by women. Um. People have their
Speaker 1: own opinions about that. I've never done it. I've never
Speaker 1: done it. But he met and this goes back, and
Speaker 1: so he was like, and they saw the man that
Speaker 1: I was with was just sitting there and he's in
Speaker 1: the military, but he didn't know that. And he was like, well,
Speaker 1: you needed to thing yourself. And he was over there
Speaker 1: embarrassed as fuck. That's some stupid girl that he met
Speaker 1: opened her mouth tearing Tony show in front of everyone.
Speaker 1: So now everyone thinks that he likes to clean the ass. Um. No,
Speaker 1: this man that I was with, he's going she didn't
Speaker 1: do a good job. Well, that's what I said, And
Speaker 1: so Tony met after the show. She said, play, I
Speaker 1: just no, but Dad's delightful. I'm sorry, I don't know
Speaker 1: to camera, get this out of good Yeah, I'm going
Speaker 1: to get some money up there. No, but I knew
Speaker 1: she was finished. She came out, was out, and then
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, your pussy was out too. But
Speaker 1: it was like like pussy was out, like respectful. Like
Speaker 1: it was like it was like you was respectful about
Speaker 1: take your cake. But that was hard to me. But
Speaker 1: she was just like out. You know. You guys just
Speaker 1: got it, you know. And I was like, that's like
Speaker 1: as a married man, I was like, damn, Tony Brox'm
Speaker 1: sting a woman mind that. I feel like that matters
Speaker 1: because Amber Rose promotes all this nipple showing like being
Speaker 1: a hul But well that's what I'm saying, like being
Speaker 1: who you are. But me personally, like, if you are
Speaker 1: in a monogamous or whatever you are, relationships should be
Speaker 1: exactly that and whatever you and your partner grand should
Speaker 1: be exactly that. And if it's right for you, cool,
Speaker 1: if it's not, and then everyone else can suck off.
Speaker 1: I have a roll with my sister. Throw that out here,
Speaker 1: and I want to say that everything he says, I
Speaker 1: agree with her. I'm so sorry as a stripper, as
Speaker 1: a woman, as somebody who was sexualized. Seven. I completely
Speaker 1: see where she's at with where she's going because what
Speaker 1: I wear, whether my pussy is out or not, I'm
Speaker 1: still a woman. I still respected, and you deserve not
Speaker 1: to be touched too. Like people like you came here
Speaker 1: and it was crazy because the wind blew a certain way,
Speaker 1: and I was like, holy ship. I was like, Holy moly,
Speaker 1: is it pretty? Is it pretty? But I'm asking for myself.
Speaker 1: All right, let me just say this is different type
Speaker 1: of man in this world. There's an ask guys, this
Speaker 1: titty guys, and then then this cameltoo guys, and I'm
Speaker 1: just throwing it out there. I'm a cameltoe guys, so
Speaker 1: like that's who I am. But I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: she kind of like waived me superman type of weight,
Speaker 1: Like it's like camelto who was Well, so yeah, I recognized,
Speaker 1: but in a respectful way because I know I'm being
Speaker 1: filmed and I know I'm married, so what. But I
Speaker 1: also had to recognize your greatness and your cameras. How
Speaker 1: how can I not I appreciate that we're expecting each
Speaker 1: other because I respect you. I just wanted to know
Speaker 1: I was expecting and I respect the fact that if
Speaker 1: you wanted the flashipuzz that she was okay with me,
Speaker 1: it was okay with me. I just I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: I'm desensitizing the fact that I do that for money
Speaker 1: in the club though. Maybe that's what you did it
Speaker 1: for free today and it was trans it was transac.
Speaker 1: Come on, your fan, you're not saying it must be
Speaker 1: a fathers stay man like listen, man, you can go
Speaker 1: and listen to something. You can look at something that
Speaker 1: is very pleasantly and you can you can you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And you know, hopefully my wife. I
Speaker 1: love my wife. I feel like she trust me a
Speaker 1: little bit. Y'allie, Maybe I'm we did. We introduced him already.
Speaker 1: Let's let's let's go. Let's do it. Tell him how
Speaker 1: many funk whom how many people you managed? You still
Speaker 1: managed the industry, just a humble servants. Let's talking about
Speaker 1: the first out the limit? He the first out the limit?
Speaker 1: You know now you know you're not a little sucking.
Speaker 1: Do you want to introduce you want? You got what
Speaker 1: you do man, listen, there's a pleasure and honor and
Speaker 1: all that to even be sitting here. First of all,
Speaker 1: it's a pleasure, honor to be on Drake and podcast.
Speaker 1: I told you how many podcasts I watched, and I
Speaker 1: gave you all movements from each podcast that I enjoyed.
Speaker 1: And Fat Joe told the funniest stories and DNA stories
Speaker 1: that was crazy, and and fifty said got drunk as
Speaker 1: fucking puff was made mixed drinks and all that. I
Speaker 1: really fucking this, he turned. And it's a pleasure to
Speaker 1: be You have no idea. You have no idea. And
Speaker 1: I see I see Norion Miami and the last couple
Speaker 1: of times I saw he was in Miami. And I've
Speaker 1: been backing. It's been up, it's been love. I've been
Speaker 1: at my dude from your long time ago. And uh,
Speaker 1: this dude right here. I was on the sitcom a
Speaker 1: few years ago called All of Us that Will Smith
Speaker 1: executive produced and created. It was based on Lucy. That's
Speaker 1: what he did, like basically managed. Yeah, and uh, and
Speaker 1: the Philly connection, what Will did in Philly and what
Speaker 1: he did for the city and how he like Galvanizer
Speaker 1: City and you know the culture of philosophically, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna cut you off because that's what I'm known for.
Speaker 1: Our drink champs. Okay, the Philly dupp for your judge,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, and the meek Mill case said said that
Speaker 1: Meek Mill should stop being managed by Rocking Nation and
Speaker 1: go with you. Is that correct, ladies and gentlemen. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Back one time, y'all listen, I'm on. Uh,
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is the truth or not.
Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying. As a media person, I
Speaker 1: have to always receive the information. But they're saying that
Speaker 1: the Philly judge and meek Mill case said they wanted
Speaker 1: him to stop being rock Nation and to come to you,
Speaker 1: which is Charlie Matt which and then uh and do
Speaker 1: a remake of a voice to men. Again, I don't
Speaker 1: know whether it's true or not because I was in present. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I don't know. But did you hear this? Of course,
Speaker 1: of course what you say again, of course everybody else.
Speaker 1: But but when did you actually kinds of a guy
Speaker 1: came to the court that day and he was like, wow, Charlie,
Speaker 1: the judge said, you know, I mean, she was like
Speaker 1: shouting out your name and it was like, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: I kind of that was because you used to manage
Speaker 1: discover the men discovered meek discovered boys. The man brooke, well,
Speaker 1: here to l a a night and taking eighty eighty
Speaker 1: seven eight eight Okay, he said, that's so humbly I
Speaker 1: need him for you to clarify when you say discover it,
Speaker 1: discover it again, you sit in said, taking taking that
Speaker 1: dust and making the diamond if you will. Yeah like that, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like that again. Cover a couple of times with three brothers,
Speaker 1: couple three, every one more time. What you want to
Speaker 1: want to stop? We want to start with because first
Speaker 1: let just just let it me knowing me to say
Speaker 1: this come next year. I've been I've been in the
Speaker 1: business forty years, but I started in the age of
Speaker 1: fourteen years. Yeah, and I'm fifty two. So wow, and
Speaker 1: you look and you're looking um twelve degree doing something
Speaker 1: you know where we don't look at the it'side right here.
Speaker 1: Represent the years I'm living. This already represent. My brothers
Speaker 1: aren't here, but that's a lot of brothers in so
Speaker 1: so therefore I won't diet. I'm wanna get them out.
Speaker 1: I am who I am. Represent that the four. Let's
Speaker 1: explain explaining how because with the exception of Whole, with
Speaker 1: the exception of Puff, Will has to be our person
Speaker 1: to look up to. Like it has to like I
Speaker 1: don't give a fun when it is I don't give
Speaker 1: an if you don't agree with Will's content of music.
Speaker 1: But you have to agree with Will's bank account. I
Speaker 1: think it's bigger than the bank account. Let me finished. Now,
Speaker 1: now you're seeing Will, But to me, this is I'm
Speaker 1: a street nigger. I'm a shooter, like I didn't have shooters.
Speaker 1: I am the shooter, right, And he's my favorite person
Speaker 1: to follow you to break here and you know I'm
Speaker 1: talking about He's my favorite person. This nigga follows camels
Speaker 1: and kangaroolls. This nigger Wheel is just he's doing different ship.
Speaker 1: He scares a guy that is his friend from Bohemia.
Speaker 1: Do you watch? But I'm just saying like he's one.
Speaker 1: But like, aside from Puff and Home and now, when
Speaker 1: you think of the richest people in hip hop, we
Speaker 1: think of Puffing Home. But the problem is we don't
Speaker 1: think of Will. Can I can I please? Okay, So
Speaker 1: here's the thing you said, Will Puffing Home. Yes, it's
Speaker 1: three different dynamics in that jay z Will be the
Speaker 1: guy that came from nothing, that came from the projects,
Speaker 1: and to take all three. But listen, let's not jays.
Speaker 1: Give me the guy that came from the projects, from nothing,
Speaker 1: public housing and took it to a level that we
Speaker 1: were all like holy ship. Nobody could come from nobody.
Speaker 1: Nobody could come from there and go to there. Okay.
Speaker 1: Puff was the kid that showed the hustle. He didn't
Speaker 1: necessarily come from humble means, he wasn't poor, but he
Speaker 1: showed if you work hard enough and you're believe in
Speaker 1: this ideal Hart if you've seen Kid's stop Roll Stop,
Speaker 1: you will disaboten if you if you can do, if
Speaker 1: you find it out. Okay, I'm listening to work and
Speaker 1: Will was the kid that was Okay, I'm from the
Speaker 1: inner city. I'm not necessarily poor, but my vision is
Speaker 1: so big that if you we're hard enough and you rinding,
Speaker 1: you don't have to be a gangster to make it out.
Speaker 1: You don't have to be a killer to be like.
Speaker 1: You can still be a guy that's like I'm wreck
Speaker 1: and I represent the culture, not necessarily the hood culture
Speaker 1: or the worst, but I came from I think a neighborhood.
Speaker 1: I think I could say that you're trying to say
Speaker 1: a little better, meaning they were used to the New
Speaker 1: York's hoods, right right. We were not used to the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia hoods at all. We actually thought Philadelphia was lying, right,
Speaker 1: But it was all that we were lying. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying we're talking about because we didn't we
Speaker 1: didn't we we thought it was a cheese thing. That's
Speaker 1: a New York thing. New York is New York doesn't listen.
Speaker 1: The suffre only gives some about New York. Even nobody
Speaker 1: in the South. For the South, you no way in
Speaker 1: the West, for worst, it was all like you what
Speaker 1: you got, what you gotta think? Though you got, you got,
Speaker 1: you got the black mantfit and you're like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. I'm talking about for people who
Speaker 1: didn't travel outside of New York. When you got people
Speaker 1: figure something. But I think there's everywhere. I think I
Speaker 1: think that's everywhere. When you had people who track, I've
Speaker 1: never reached out and gravitating towards another sun Yos has
Speaker 1: always been like a week right on the barrel. Nick suck.
Speaker 1: But you new Yorkers are still like yo, the Nicks, Yo,
Speaker 1: the Knicks like good Year. But the New Yorkers are
Speaker 1: still like you. We ride with the fucking Knicks, the
Speaker 1: fucking Clippers. The selling is the okay, see all that one.
Speaker 1: Sudn't been to the playoffs, but were like this man Nicks,
Speaker 1: nigga fuck let me because we saw in a new
Speaker 1: frame of mom, you don't can't. I'll give you example
Speaker 1: of why I was one of the first New York
Speaker 1: Nakers to mess with the fraud, to mess with the
Speaker 1: David band cash, to mess with the cash man to me,
Speaker 1: because I was one of them dudes that went out
Speaker 1: of town and said, oh these things, like I was
Speaker 1: one of those names. Like I was the first person
Speaker 1: of her with Eve. Her name was Eve with Destruction.
Speaker 1: She wasn't even Eve, she wasn't even one of her riders.
Speaker 1: She was with what after man was doing some quickly
Speaker 1: when I came and I was just just just like Compton.
Speaker 1: But I'm never gonna tell you, but that's how I
Speaker 1: cooked up with Eve and her thing was even destruction.
Speaker 1: And that's the crazy shit is Like, see, for New York,
Speaker 1: we just at one point we just had a les
Speaker 1: him of where we see we see forward, but now
Speaker 1: a person like me. When I started to travel and
Speaker 1: I started to see the reason why back that asshole
Speaker 1: was working, the reason why fucking you know, clip clips eclips.
Speaker 1: I'm in the first video. I'm in the first video.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm grind then and where I begged me and say, yo,
Speaker 1: please can you come here? And I paid my own money.
Speaker 1: That's why I pushed the t you ain't on this podcast. There, listen, man,
Speaker 1: I'm about I'm about to come see him. He's my friend.
Speaker 1: It's a great threat. It's a good threat. It's a
Speaker 1: great threat. It's great. But what I'm trying to say
Speaker 1: is New York we had it so much that we
Speaker 1: could have been that sport where we couldn't recognize other things.
Speaker 1: But me being the older person, to me being a
Speaker 1: person that's global because I've always been black and porter
Speaker 1: we can so I always had to have a balance.
Speaker 1: To me, I always had to be two people. So
Speaker 1: knew that I had to be too. That's why I'm
Speaker 1: the first person that Little Wayne ever collapsed with. Wow. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's big nineteen. The cash money because they before a
Speaker 1: while stretch they when deal with nobody. I was the
Speaker 1: first person night and Corbaca, let Merca not work. Let
Speaker 1: me take away anything from you, Corbaca, because me and
Speaker 1: you was saying it was in that same But what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is we took those certain risks and that
Speaker 1: is the reason why there's people like Buster browns Uh,
Speaker 1: there's people like Fat Joe, and there's people like myself
Speaker 1: who said, you know what, We're gonna be New York
Speaker 1: niggas all day, but we're also gonna reach outside of
Speaker 1: our normal aspect and bringing in other people. Joe said
Speaker 1: that in the podcast, he was like, he's in Miami,
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, he knew that. He knew that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's just like New York has been its own its
Speaker 1: worst enemy, and it's message like his best friend in
Speaker 1: his first enemy, because you all was so popular. But
Speaker 1: one time that we was like, yeah, we knew, you knew,
Speaker 1: we didn't need we don't need to reach out to yall.
Speaker 1: We didn't. We popp it. We got the best bars,
Speaker 1: we got the real lyricists. We had is that really
Speaker 1: got skills and bars, and then we didn't even take
Speaker 1: into account that might be a nigga someone else that
Speaker 1: could do the same thing. Then when they saw the
Speaker 1: bottle and he was like, was onside. And then we
Speaker 1: had the mad Rapper telling niggas, y'll nigga nig y'all
Speaker 1: niggas can't deal ship. Yell Derek, guy, Angel lady, we
Speaker 1: need to know how did the mayor? Yeah? Yeah, first off,
Speaker 1: very good, Derek. Let me just tell you something. We
Speaker 1: have a whole podcast of you and your producer skills
Speaker 1: and everything you did as a hitman, right because your
Speaker 1: your your legacy, um can't can't be wrapped up right now,
Speaker 1: right because it's so some pause poll. Yeah, it's so big,
Speaker 1: it's so long. If your pettigree, your resume isn't tactic,
Speaker 1: I'll never gotta say. Poor dr just just want you listen.
Speaker 1: You're like, this is a real big up. But how
Speaker 1: let's just stay to one part of your career right now, right,
Speaker 1: let's do it. First of all, thank you, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: because because it's so it's so Luxy's right, Charlie Man
Speaker 1: as well, and Tony Rock here. So I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm the high school with my brother Andrea DT
Speaker 1: since I was like ten years old. Let me just
Speaker 1: take something Charlie bang d Dot, Tony Rock. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: just be honest. I know. Let let me humble, Let
Speaker 1: me humble myself. It's like all of you guys deserve
Speaker 1: an episode of us just talking to y'all for five
Speaker 1: hours by you guys. So I'm just saying, Charlie mac Nigga,
Speaker 1: I was so, I was like, it's chili. He wants
Speaker 1: to come and like Tony said, like Tony said, my
Speaker 1: daughter asked, just now, I'm doing the domino right there.
Speaker 1: Found out was coming to like, so you're doing drink
Speaker 1: Champs like you're gonna drink Chap. I'll watch it, and
Speaker 1: you gotta think I'm saying these are two and three
Speaker 1: or four hours were for viewer. You saying like I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I want to invest it and it ain't too many things.
Speaker 1: I'm saying that at this point, get life. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you wanna give that much time to if they aint
Speaker 1: gonna check And it's it's it's it's it's the culture.
Speaker 1: It's but more of what I'm saying, y'all, you're important
Speaker 1: to us, you know what I mean. And it's it's
Speaker 1: it's a respects respect, It's what I'm saying, it's informative,
Speaker 1: it's real. So for me, I connect with that, you know.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. All three of y'all deserve your own,
Speaker 1: you know, three hour episode because I would go into
Speaker 1: each one of your careers. D not invited me to
Speaker 1: do this. Show's right that you show. Yeah, but you're coming.
Speaker 1: We're talking. But everybody said, he was like, Charlie, we
Speaker 1: can't do like a few hours, which I got to
Speaker 1: do a day of life, you know, and just on
Speaker 1: you because again it's spanned so far, so it's not
Speaker 1: like we can get into anybody who work with We
Speaker 1: just want to do it when you you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So I'm like, you know, that's cool, when
Speaker 1: that's honorable, and um, you know what I mean. Even
Speaker 1: more because like we have a history from Brooklyn before
Speaker 1: we even got into what we got into, before you
Speaker 1: got into what you got into it, before I got
Speaker 1: into what I gotta do. Then when I got into it,
Speaker 1: I haven't see what you trumb says great separation. So
Speaker 1: it's all it's all take your troll back and we
Speaker 1: got got that I'm saying. And of course of the
Speaker 1: names when you was out Kobe and meet we're bringing
Speaker 1: you down to Philly doing your show. Yeou everys how
Speaker 1: did that mad Rap? We all enjoyed that because one
Speaker 1: one let me just tell you can tell you something,
Speaker 1: one thing that people don't know. At the same time
Speaker 1: in the mad Rap scenario came out, you will also
Speaker 1: have the number one record. Indeed, so a lot of
Speaker 1: people were just, oh, I love it, I love it,
Speaker 1: but this is a crazy thing. Get water play somebody
Speaker 1: from it was a lot of people didn't understand that
Speaker 1: you were playing the massigna of like a hurt person,
Speaker 1: a person that had nothing. But at the same time
Speaker 1: you was on the you was on top seven records.
Speaker 1: Absolutely start field words right started like a skin tell you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you how to start Well. At that time,
Speaker 1: we had the East Coast West Coast thing going on
Speaker 1: another that's we're in the middle of that. So we're
Speaker 1: sitting in the studio one day B I. G. Proton
Speaker 1: Junior in Mafia and staff and everybody, and the video
Speaker 1: come on the screen and it's that video that Park
Speaker 1: had made up where he was playing big and they
Speaker 1: were playing puff and up. The thing was called hit
Speaker 1: him Up. They leave it and we're sitting there like this,
Speaker 1: oh shit, like this is crazy. You know, all flow
Speaker 1: from the nineties. We want to get the money, the cribs,
Speaker 1: the cause. We don't want no problems. We come in peace,
Speaker 1: peace piece. We come like that. Now you you can't
Speaker 1: be serious. We're getting ready to put up new beats,
Speaker 1: were getting ready. Are we giving wrong? It's pandemonium, like
Speaker 1: phone calls are being made. What the fun is going on?
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting back like, man, this ship is for real,
Speaker 1: but we can't get involved in that. That ain't the
Speaker 1: life I'm I'm I ain't living like that. I don't
Speaker 1: want to have to walk around strapped all day. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm just here to make some music, you know me.
Speaker 1: So one day I just I saw that, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, to get him back, like it's like how
Speaker 1: you you know you kill somebody with kindness. So I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna make fun of him
Speaker 1: like haters like Tupocket in death throwing. It wasn't it
Speaker 1: wasn't a spoof of them. It was a spoof of
Speaker 1: anybody anybody that our energy is giving money. We're shown
Speaker 1: you boom, you know we we come in peace faith.
Speaker 1: Think of like looking out look at us. We put
Speaker 1: on shiny suits for niggers. These are the realist some
Speaker 1: of the realistic as you don't styles. You know, these dickens.
Speaker 1: This is the slow class everybody that you go to.
Speaker 1: These dudes, these are real. They just made this real wounds,
Speaker 1: this is real bid wires, and they're women to compromise.
Speaker 1: Did y'all reach out from the coach. Did y'all even
Speaker 1: reach out to dust Row to try to this old
Speaker 1: ship when it was like at his height? Of course
Speaker 1: we did. Really, we come in peace. We want to
Speaker 1: pro reach out to come on that right there is
Speaker 1: gonna just have to stay where the stays. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: gonna have to that's gonna have to stay where it stays.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. We don't make it to
Speaker 1: be almost fifty with that type ship. So where we
Speaker 1: got to the mad Rapper was the beauty of it was.
Speaker 1: I hadn't used the people from the studio. So the
Speaker 1: guy that's doing the voice was Trevi and Jones that
Speaker 1: was his real name. He was Puffs like second cousin
Speaker 1: or something to that fact. That was a real voice.
Speaker 1: Good morning everyone, how are you everything. He coming every
Speaker 1: day and I'm crowning him every day anyway, So it
Speaker 1: was natural. And the girl who did the Highness to Shape,
Speaker 1: she went to front this girl that was her real name,
Speaker 1: she just wasn't from New Word show. And I told
Speaker 1: him what to say, how to say, and I just
Speaker 1: went in The actual skinnes is four minutes long, but
Speaker 1: we don't use actually came out that you actually understood
Speaker 1: that it was working. How was the approach that you
Speaker 1: saying people coming back here and saying, we gotta keep
Speaker 1: this going, we need I gotta shout out, DJ clue, Wow,
Speaker 1: big up clue. I got a big up clue. I'm
Speaker 1: doing the mad rapper and and um and um and
Speaker 1: um um. He he allowed me to put a freestyle
Speaker 1: on his tapes like an interlude, but I turned it
Speaker 1: into a rap to keep it alive, like fucking is alive.
Speaker 1: And he put a tape out and I put a
Speaker 1: verse outum, and now I'm on the streets with a verse. Okay.
Speaker 1: Then Paul says, let's do another one from my album,
Speaker 1: but just I came with another character. Now I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do like oh yeah, Now I'm gonna do oh yeah.
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm I'm gonna bring your brother. Now you
Speaker 1: know I say, I'm gonna bring your brother in, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn this into a franchise. Why wouldnot? But
Speaker 1: we're not, you know what I mean. That's that's where
Speaker 1: it came from trying to distraction to very distractions coming
Speaker 1: rights to the two pockets he said, he said, they're
Speaker 1: going to give you all the things you need to
Speaker 1: destroy yourself, right right right, Tony Rock is like, is
Speaker 1: bringing everything you need to just dry yourself actually charging that?
Speaker 1: Because when you think of Will Smith, right, the thing
Speaker 1: about Will Smith is, um, he's a person that I
Speaker 1: would personally like the pattern myself after The only reason
Speaker 1: why people will never say you're trying to be like
Speaker 1: Will Smith because I was the shooter. That's it. But
Speaker 1: I really wanted to be the same exact person that
Speaker 1: Will Smith is going and the fact that I shot
Speaker 1: somebody in the sprot of you for throwing that out there,
Speaker 1: but yet, but I really with the music that I
Speaker 1: was coming with from that very I'm sorry that you're
Speaker 1: bringing the but what're you're saying. What I'm trying to
Speaker 1: say is Will has one of the best careers of
Speaker 1: a hip hopper like like, and what I mean by
Speaker 1: that is nobody was bad at Will. Like if you
Speaker 1: ever said, if you ever said, like if Will was
Speaker 1: ever a drake, meaning you found out somebody was writing Wales,
Speaker 1: we wouldn't have gave a fun like we didn't care
Speaker 1: like to this day we heard that, Yeah, that that
Speaker 1: was that was during like after Independence Day ala, things
Speaker 1: like that, because we're literally we were doing uh big
Speaker 1: Williams styles while we were feeling you know. But what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is you've actually man as Will even trying
Speaker 1: to know. Well, no, I was a Will confident, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So that the Renzo Pin, the
Speaker 1: Renzo Pin, then BENI meeting with Ja and James Lash
Speaker 1: and then of course Benie Medina. I'm just manage it,
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But me, I'm saying, I'm the guy for
Speaker 1: me every day, all day, every day. Again, So so
Speaker 1: for me, I was just when was so like just
Speaker 1: making sure you know your rhythm is right, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, making sure you understand what's out there.
Speaker 1: Would it feels like what it smells like, the tastes
Speaker 1: like a turkey, Yeah, of course, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And again It's weird because I remember eight I think
Speaker 1: it was on Run's house tour and so we were
Speaker 1: so we came back to see real post up picture
Speaker 1: him all those photos of my photos. I took good
Speaker 1: photos of all the photos. Any photo that you see,
Speaker 1: we're back Thursdays, like I'm gonna throw it back Thursday, King,
Speaker 1: So any photo you see that will tell you know
Speaker 1: what I mean has And then Manai Charlie the thing
Speaker 1: about it wasn't that again for me, I'm not knowing.
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I'm saying. I knew that I'm saying
Speaker 1: this is gonna matter some years down. Will of course
Speaker 1: didn't want to. He was like, why are you taking
Speaker 1: on these pictures? And now I guess what Now it
Speaker 1: matters now. And then of course he's at he should
Speaker 1: drove me out about being on Instagram right now. That's
Speaker 1: what you can't get him off on me out right
Speaker 1: because again if you look at my saying, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: like the Instagram bully, like I'm coming there, but I'm
Speaker 1: like it was made for me because of course I'm
Speaker 1: gonna taking pictures. You know, I was hanging out, was like,
Speaker 1: how come Michael with Montgomery Darrel Dolphins or Cureton like
Speaker 1: this was like like seventy seventy and seventy seven, seventy eight.
Speaker 1: So for me, I've always been a fan. I've been
Speaker 1: an ultimate fan with the access. So so it was
Speaker 1: Will when he decided, Okay, I'm gonna do this whatever
Speaker 1: he want to picture. He's like called Charlie because I
Speaker 1: got now I get people have watched this. He was
Speaker 1: married twenty years. This past uh New Year's Eve, I
Speaker 1: gave him his poem that he actually wrote to Jada
Speaker 1: and night and seven as pol I get to Will
Speaker 1: wrote a poem jan Will wrote a poem to Jada.
Speaker 1: Uhed twelve years. I keep it going. You wrote the
Speaker 1: poem that he gave me the phone, me give me
Speaker 1: the physical paper, so I kept for twenty years. I
Speaker 1: got it. I got it actually framed last year and
Speaker 1: gave it to him on the eighteenth this year. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I'm like a hoarder, so
Speaker 1: I keep everything. I keep everything, like so like when
Speaker 1: Will was nominated for the first story, you have all
Speaker 1: the ballots. I just want to clear a fix something
Speaker 1: because you said something earlier, and I'm like to drink
Speaker 1: chance fan to clarify that, because you said when when
Speaker 1: we said will Smith name, you said you discovered will
Speaker 1: Smith and then no, no, I took him and introduce
Speaker 1: to me, but to give him the first Prince of
Speaker 1: bel Air. Okay. So now that's what I did, was
Speaker 1: that meat mail? When I said million, you said, yes, Okay,
Speaker 1: I need to get the men as well. Okay, I
Speaker 1: need to. I know Charlie back I was wanted, but
Speaker 1: I said, know who the fuck you for me? Pus,
Speaker 1: But this is my job as a drink champ. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: you gonna make him plain. I gotta let the people
Speaker 1: understand who you are. Absolutely right. So the ship that
Speaker 1: you just said, that's not no warm ship feel it
Speaker 1: feels it feels normal to me, of course. No, it's
Speaker 1: just not normal feel to me. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: had a weird boe. One time we was we was
Speaker 1: in London and we was on tour Boys the Men, right,
Speaker 1: and I was sitting there. I was like, God, damn,
Speaker 1: was like, these guys are boys in the man. But
Speaker 1: mind you and up to I know Nick since he
Speaker 1: was three years old. I'm with Kobe the day that
Speaker 1: Jerry West calls him in his house when he tells him, Charlotte,
Speaker 1: one draft for you and then we're gonna take you
Speaker 1: over the Lakers. I'm there with him because Kobe's from Philly.
Speaker 1: From Philly, Okay, right, so man going in going everyway
Speaker 1: thinking some good sha happen. We'll like to refer to
Speaker 1: it as Charlie Gump if you will. You know, there's
Speaker 1: a bunch of historical moments. No, okay, but but let
Speaker 1: me just I'm so sorry because your ship is floating good.
Speaker 1: But the New Edition movie, yes, so that movie, okay,
Speaker 1: and watched this you know that part when actually Mike
Speaker 1: meets boys in that right? So so yeah, so yeahs
Speaker 1: I managed you ass He played Michael Beavers how came
Speaker 1: from the Empire? Right? The guy in there, the big
Speaker 1: tall guy was me and then the group, my group
Speaker 1: brotherly loved played boys the men. So it was like
Speaker 1: really like a out of body kind of a surreal
Speaker 1: moment for watching that being played. Well, it didn't happen
Speaker 1: that way, just so that was my son to played
Speaker 1: son to played me. So so Mike actually wanted me
Speaker 1: to do it, but I really this thing that this
Speaker 1: game so wait a minute, yeah, so so so for me, Um,
Speaker 1: the way that actually happened was Nick used to be
Speaker 1: in a rapper Nick from Boys and used to be
Speaker 1: a rapper called j D t R. And so I
Speaker 1: remember him as a family going to church every Sunday.
Speaker 1: My brother used to make him sing with neu Tho songs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he find used to say so when he found when
Speaker 1: he found out he was in the reporter, he was
Speaker 1: bullying up sick in the six make him saying one
Speaker 1: of those songs right soon over that. So you know
Speaker 1: it was five if you look at the movie, it
Speaker 1: was it was five guys in So Martin Nelson actually
Speaker 1: was the original member. You got Mike movie like track
Speaker 1: as stand Faveridge, so so so uh so Mark Nelson
Speaker 1: actually came back from California, came to Philly. He got
Speaker 1: with Nate and then he told him again and I
Speaker 1: just for a group. Mikeael was the last guy in
Speaker 1: the group. Mike Mike, Mike McCarry, Mike McCarry. So, Mike
Speaker 1: Mccarrey'm talking about boys the man right, So I had
Speaker 1: to put Mike in the group. And then they see
Speaker 1: me I was going with a young lady by name
Speaker 1: made me Brown. That was that dig Yes in Philly.
Speaker 1: She said, why don't you go to this ext woment.
Speaker 1: I go to the event. Five guys run up to
Speaker 1: me and he says, that's Charlie Mack. They run to
Speaker 1: me and said, could be singing for you. And I
Speaker 1: was like saying, I said he was a So you're
Speaker 1: saying in the movie when new addition movie that was
Speaker 1: actually you. There was a meeting, I'm saying again. They say,
Speaker 1: Michael bus and you know I'm seeing you, so so
Speaker 1: let me let me tell you mappy so so again.
Speaker 1: So they won they walk up to and so they
Speaker 1: walked up to me and they're like, you know it's
Speaker 1: Charlie Mack. So they could be safe for you. They
Speaker 1: saying can you stand the ring? I was like, god, damn,
Speaker 1: so Michael bisiness nowhere let me finish. So so they
Speaker 1: sing for me. Man Will was living together a time
Speaker 1: in Lord Maryann. I go back home. At the time,
Speaker 1: Will's nineteen. I'm like, well, I got this group boys
Speaker 1: the man stay crazy. But Will's inside of his situation,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, He's and he's young. So
Speaker 1: Michael Mike Tyson invites me to a party to play
Speaker 1: them out here. Come to the party. I come to
Speaker 1: the party. Come to the party. I come to the
Speaker 1: party of Michael. Business is there, I said, Mike, I
Speaker 1: got this group and Philly nat Boys. Then he said,
Speaker 1: I said, they have seen any y'all songs better. I'll
Speaker 1: be in Philly next week at the power House. I
Speaker 1: met this guy backstage that powers. I'll get back in
Speaker 1: the Philly. I said, if you want to meet somebody,
Speaker 1: who would you want to be? You want to see
Speaker 1: somebody doing sing for They said, no audition because of
Speaker 1: course boys demnute, I saw me get your audition with
Speaker 1: me me back door at the at the Powerhouse. So
Speaker 1: they came that day, two of them stuck in the
Speaker 1: front door, got number three. M came backstage. Maybe he
Speaker 1: was back in the saying can you stand the ring? Uh?
Speaker 1: Mike said, well, I gotta I gotta deal. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do with Joe's j Busby. Joe Busby is in New York.
Speaker 1: We went back on tour the next day because you
Speaker 1: know what, of course on birthday parties, everybody's coming in
Speaker 1: there on tour, so we can we go out of town.
Speaker 1: Mike takes boys have been up to New York for
Speaker 1: Jeral buzzby the prestis history as you would sound nice, nice,
Speaker 1: true story, true story, the whole life, up right story
Speaker 1: talking about Will Smith. Don't sleep on Will Smith. Will
Speaker 1: Smith on the bar he had you know, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no to the full all that pop stuff. Let me
Speaker 1: take another thing to just you can check this. Okay,
Speaker 1: As Eric asked, L L S Run, I'm talking about
Speaker 1: to date. When you see Eric, to date. Okay, we've
Speaker 1: never took a hell and we have many fights. Okay,
Speaker 1: we've never taken hel not one, not one, not one,
Speaker 1: not one. Hear what I'm saying to you. Definitely street
Speaker 1: curses never got but that's one, not one. And we've
Speaker 1: been in the game. I'm telling this Will this thirty
Speaker 1: thirty two years at this point. Okay, number two, get all.
Speaker 1: That's what I was saying when I said jay Z
Speaker 1: is from the hood niggas, and they recognized that they
Speaker 1: identified with jay Z because even ud nigga. But that
Speaker 1: don't mean hood niggas and niggas that grew up in
Speaker 1: middle class ain't the same niggas the niggas that grew
Speaker 1: up middle class. Like yo, I thir nio, I was bad.
Speaker 1: Two I was dead he had. That's what I was.
Speaker 1: Don't say like niggas in middle class like Yer was
Speaker 1: a middle class might be. No, it wasn't middle class.
Speaker 1: One than they can't grow up up the middle up
Speaker 1: middle They don't mean a street nigga. That don't mean
Speaker 1: like a nigga from jay Z from the protests proga.
Speaker 1: It don't mean because even mosty objects that a nigger
Speaker 1: like upper middle class won't still stand up for his say.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Will is the person I'm telling you right
Speaker 1: now because it happened with us so many times. If
Speaker 1: it's if it's an Inkland that's going down, he stuck
Speaker 1: a punch you from the red from the rep sucking punch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're paid to go down. He tell the story that
Speaker 1: tell us abody. Will told me this story. We'll tell
Speaker 1: me story. He was a chicken l A. He was
Speaker 1: in l A doing Fresh Prince. He was taking some chicken.
Speaker 1: You probably know this way better than he was taking something.
Speaker 1: And Johnny Gil was dating the same girl and they
Speaker 1: was beefing back and forth, you know, like telling said
Speaker 1: Johnny Johnny Gil and the best is a crash party,
Speaker 1: and this is we all told me. You make it
Speaker 1: come about something. Party was like thing was like the
Speaker 1: second season of Fresh Person. Johnny Gils was the rat
Speaker 1: party and Will said he took a bottle of champagne
Speaker 1: and poured that ship out and had that ship behind him,
Speaker 1: like Yo, I'm a crack this thing in his head
Speaker 1: with a bat. Well, you guys, think about that, watch this,
Speaker 1: Watch this now, thinking about that, you know better than
Speaker 1: thinking about this though, I'm saying a frame of this
Speaker 1: for you, right you think about this Jade as real
Speaker 1: as they come, right way, Jada kiss Jada, alright, because
Speaker 1: the real j jad kiss is the real text, my profits.
Speaker 1: But watching what I'm saying to you is because that Jada,
Speaker 1: of course, it's really they come to from Bottama. Jada's
Speaker 1: a g I. She also said, I'm saying, James j
Speaker 1: Jada married the fresh Prince. Okay, she married no sucker,
Speaker 1: Look look at her, Pettygree prior to that all thorough
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Petty Chris Thorow. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but they didn't marry her. She married Will Smith, Okay,
Speaker 1: so it's something to be said for that. You gotta
Speaker 1: know a few the woman got to know a few
Speaker 1: things that I'm saying, first and foremost, you're gonna take
Speaker 1: care of me. Secondly, i'm saying, for Joe can get
Speaker 1: out of pocket, I'm you're gonna handle that. So that's
Speaker 1: that's proven. That's to do with old school. He said joker.
Speaker 1: When said joke, you'm talking about what he just said.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, every chick in the business want you. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: I'm sick when I think of that business. Don't want period.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, no, the dude in the court ain't getting
Speaker 1: paid attention to. It's the dude, I'm saying to everybody
Speaker 1: trying to get that okay. So again I'm saying it
Speaker 1: speaks for uself. But I'm saying this go on record
Speaker 1: that never been a on the on the side of
Speaker 1: the table with the copy kids are apt because that's
Speaker 1: what they were known. Because I was, of course the
Speaker 1: street dude, how the street you know what I mean
Speaker 1: now as a filly person, and I apologize now I
Speaker 1: gotta bring it back to you. So because um, at
Speaker 1: one point it just felt like Meek was taking the
Speaker 1: alas who was yeah als Like I just felt like
Speaker 1: A that's that's after my time. I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just asking like how did that fail? Because the
Speaker 1: thing about it is, well, I'm gonna jump in. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying making is Mika is again he's proven again
Speaker 1: for me, that's the thing that actually drew me in.
Speaker 1: Like I know, I'm saying that, ain't nobody gonna ride
Speaker 1: or bounce that beating the way that me gonna get
Speaker 1: the pocket and let let me do more take let
Speaker 1: me just say him with Drake once he went at
Speaker 1: Drake again like that was a bad man. That's all.
Speaker 1: That's all subject because again it's it's like jay z
Speaker 1: RNs right, So that's about who we are you at
Speaker 1: and what you think and what actually when somebody says, um,
Speaker 1: you know Nori don't ana lyrics, I'm saying, if that's
Speaker 1: a person, I'm saying that you looking at him, saying
Speaker 1: what you're looking for? When are you actually judging that?
Speaker 1: Because there's people that love you the same way they
Speaker 1: love hold You know what I mean? So you can't. Again,
Speaker 1: it's subject. It's based on what you you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So again I'm saying, I don't see Mika
Speaker 1: is taken, feel up you and see make has taken
Speaker 1: no El period, Right, so again I'm saying, how did
Speaker 1: they fail in the world. I thought that because because
Speaker 1: the thing about it was, um, I'm with you, like
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I felt like me stance was actually appropriate, right,
Speaker 1: But the world felt like Meek tweeted as opposed to rhyman,
Speaker 1: and when Great actually rhyme, it kind of made him
Speaker 1: feel like he won that subject subject you wanted this thing.
Speaker 1: I think if he's one of those him, the Great
Speaker 1: thing was a bigger picture that people didn't even realize.
Speaker 1: It was light skinned, dog skin. It was both parents
Speaker 1: versus single mother. It was hood versus suburbs. It was
Speaker 1: it was all that. It was like, well it was.
Speaker 1: It was all those dynamics and you're gonna agree with this.
Speaker 1: It was all all those dynamics. And then it was
Speaker 1: his response was weak as fuck. No. It's first was like, yo,
Speaker 1: we want you to win, street things like, yo, we
Speaker 1: want you to win. We were waiting for you to
Speaker 1: respond to this motherfucker and kill him. And then you
Speaker 1: didn't respond the way we wanted you to respond. That's
Speaker 1: when they said he took a l tell me please
Speaker 1: said no, no, no. The West Coast mcst but could
Speaker 1: make you know for what. Then you said, if he goes,
Speaker 1: you know why? It was a bigger It was a
Speaker 1: bigger situation meaning meaning meaning it was a Philly when
Speaker 1: one of the when when this was on, I was
Speaker 1: on as a person that be on tour. I can
Speaker 1: tell you that while I'm on tour, I'm not giving
Speaker 1: it the one million percent of acknowledgement. Then I can
Speaker 1: be because I'm I'm on tour and I'm going out
Speaker 1: and I'm getting my dick suck or something. This this
Speaker 1: is right before I was married. I'm sorry you looked
Speaker 1: at me like you with my wife, Like I'm going out,
Speaker 1: I'm doing this certain things, so I'm not exactly focused.
Speaker 1: So when he said that, I'm related to that, but
Speaker 1: I knew that I was the only person that kind
Speaker 1: of related to that other than rappers. You listen, it's
Speaker 1: hip hop is a cluture. I'm giving it to you
Speaker 1: saying himp hop is a culture. Hip hop is the
Speaker 1: way you dressed, the way you talk. You will none
Speaker 1: of the people say I'm not a rapper. I am
Speaker 1: from the himpop culture. So I about artists, but I
Speaker 1: am a hip hop artist. Do you y'all the phones
Speaker 1: do you get me a little bit of credit when
Speaker 1: he says, yo, I was on tour. I fully, I
Speaker 1: fully understand it, because not just that I'm saying, I'm
Speaker 1: dealing with feeling. You know, I'm saying I'm dealing with
Speaker 1: the first hand. So I know it's process. He's a
Speaker 1: person that will live each sleep ship in the studio. Right.
Speaker 1: You can't get in there and do what you do.
Speaker 1: I'm saying again, if it's mind somewhere else's mind somewhere
Speaker 1: else here, that's just what it is. What happens happening.
Speaker 1: What happened to general public? General public is I'm saying
Speaker 1: demand to some of you. But again, public don't hate
Speaker 1: to handle it. So whatever you sat your face, it's
Speaker 1: always fire. So you sure the fire. But look, it's deporting,
Speaker 1: don't do. There's a court of all and there's a
Speaker 1: quart of public opinion that there. Let me say something
Speaker 1: that's right. He's right. You gotta prepare for one time,
Speaker 1: right at all times. So if you're not prepared me right.
Speaker 1: So so basically when you go into negotiation, if you
Speaker 1: ain't prepared, war losing because he actually started the battle.
Speaker 1: That's my point. He actually that's my point. So you
Speaker 1: went into more unprepared with a motherfucker that million that
Speaker 1: got got bars appear already. Okay, let me get in there.
Speaker 1: Let me say one thing I'm past. I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: one thing in the past to you. The one thing
Speaker 1: was Drake's whole thing was you say something to me
Speaker 1: and I'll never get an apply for it. That was
Speaker 1: like one of his one of the famous. The thing
Speaker 1: was he made two songs before he made And I
Speaker 1: was gonna say that was so famous because most famous ship,
Speaker 1: you diss me and you'll never can never applied for it.
Speaker 1: So me, was it like out of his mind to
Speaker 1: say something and think yeah, but okay, now let's now,
Speaker 1: let's give it the rap, because Brad, let me introduce you.
Speaker 1: Let me give you a problems. One, you're one of
Speaker 1: the lyric who giants. You're fucking you're a person who
Speaker 1: understands lyricism, and you're a person who understands like what
Speaker 1: what with new respect to any of us head, I'm
Speaker 1: putting me in the same category. You've been in lyrical
Speaker 1: war with some of the biggest people in the game.
Speaker 1: So now I need to hear your analystic I was
Speaker 1: gonna say this Drake has one thing, the same thing
Speaker 1: when Canadi's got into it with with l If you
Speaker 1: don't have two in the chamber, you already lost the fight.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna do one. It's called a ferret. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say some ship first if I'm a starter, because
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have something already in response to what I
Speaker 1: already know you're gonna say about you better be prepared.
Speaker 1: You gotta have knife. You didn't gotta with shetty. You're
Speaker 1: chatty with the knife, so you're gonna come with me
Speaker 1: thinking I said, guy's not gonna plump the machine and
Speaker 1: chopped your head on. So that with Nick, who who
Speaker 1: I feel is you? You kind of said some funny ship.
Speaker 1: He was like niging the projects, dark skinned, IM like drays,
Speaker 1: light skin niggas drag you know the Canadians like, I
Speaker 1: gotta I got what you was doing last you I was.
Speaker 1: I never had because all the look all the basketball
Speaker 1: niggas is just the lights. I'm telling you. It was
Speaker 1: a little bit of award. I was like, I was like, Nigga,
Speaker 1: where's the West? He stipe, Nigga ware the right niggas,
Speaker 1: that's win night. So Drake was in a great position,
Speaker 1: and honestly, Meek went autam and wasn't prepared, and nobody
Speaker 1: cares about I wasn't if he wasn't ready. Nobody to
Speaker 1: this day nobody ready. You're right, you know, like why nobody? Yeah,
Speaker 1: went the credibility and that's never going to some bad
Speaker 1: Explain why nobody don't care? If you were living in
Speaker 1: social media world, everything is instantaneous and me, I can
Speaker 1: get out here right now. Don't get ahead of everybody
Speaker 1: and make up a story. And until you can, once
Speaker 1: it goes out, it's kind of hard to put the
Speaker 1: two paper back in the two. So dude went out
Speaker 1: and then Drake didn't FINA's them. He did that. He
Speaker 1: made club party disc records that the Chiefs could sing too.
Speaker 1: It was a fund up design. He was smart on it.
Speaker 1: And I don't know what Drake like that. I don't
Speaker 1: know Meat like that. I'm you know, I'm a student
Speaker 1: of this game. Some people have more inter relationships here.
Speaker 1: Drake got a team nigger, He got seven niggas helping
Speaker 1: him talking up with a couple of bars. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, This is writing camps. Now. He didn't
Speaker 1: you don't you're gonna pass for that, I said, I
Speaker 1: I don't no reason about some of the days that
Speaker 1: have balls river, I know fifty years old. Story. Hold up,
Speaker 1: tell me we're a difference. You don't meet. We don't
Speaker 1: give a funk if you ready or not. We're the
Speaker 1: fans differences like we're going on the outside of you're
Speaker 1: trying to make a difference. You got one guy righting
Speaker 1: versus ten guys. Right, that's what I'm saying. He didn't
Speaker 1: get the fans. I got them, and the fans don't
Speaker 1: kid and I got what you're saying. He just wanted that.
Speaker 1: But again I ran when you being a hurt record right,
Speaker 1: it's yourself, I'm saying, And you don't have a time
Speaker 1: of the deans. It isn't how many times said, because
Speaker 1: don't care. Hold y'll stay like just stay. We like
Speaker 1: brings up right, I want to go right back. I
Speaker 1: like going back every record heat writing. Somebody's in their pen.
Speaker 1: And when we know we can't sit a bed and
Speaker 1: see that now, we can't say that's the lasting this.
Speaker 1: That's not to say something, says Aliet Charlie Matt one
Speaker 1: of the we sat there. We had Steve Style in
Speaker 1: NA shows I wanted stout. I got that addressed too,
Speaker 1: because he's a little disrespectful that he was a well
Speaker 1: Steve Stole said what he said. He said, Steve, Yes,
Speaker 1: NAS wrote um geeky with him right, he did it
Speaker 1: right there, and then he said NA should have wrote
Speaker 1: more right. I mean that's his opinion again subjective, subjective. Okay,
Speaker 1: So how did you fail? How did you feel when
Speaker 1: you heard him like that? Say that I was there? Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm there, so you knew he knew that. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but what was not going? Like? But again he's making
Speaker 1: men a black making and I'll leave. I'm saying he
Speaker 1: was doing both filos boobies at the time. You know
Speaker 1: what I would let Nash? Yeah, man, But guess what
Speaker 1: I'm saying that I think Up said about it, said
Speaker 1: about it. And again what I'm saying, and then I'm saying,
Speaker 1: what does it matter if I'm playing I'm saying no,
Speaker 1: not only that, I'm saying that record right there, that
Speaker 1: a right there was those biggest album today? Yeah, biggest.
Speaker 1: I can I ask some question? Let me ask some
Speaker 1: because I'm in the rule and I'm sitting in the room.
Speaker 1: That's not jay Z, Memphis, Beanie segu um Um Young Junna,
Speaker 1: Stop Peter. And every day we're in the room with
Speaker 1: these guys, do we logically think as grown ass men
Speaker 1: that nobody in there. Sometimes that was a problem with
Speaker 1: this particularly different though it's not different. It's no different.
Speaker 1: This is called production. It's not called made the best
Speaker 1: man right, the best verse, and you win that way.
Speaker 1: I don't know this. You know there's no rule up
Speaker 1: to hip hop, right. I know that's that's not true.
Speaker 1: That's right. I don't tell you that. Probably around around
Speaker 1: late eighties nineties, that's when I think all the ghost
Speaker 1: rights start coming in, right, because early on it was
Speaker 1: based on you being able to write about autu like
Speaker 1: this that was done. Isn't tell you like this when
Speaker 1: you considered top five? Yeah, you can't have you expect.
Speaker 1: I agree, that's the agree. I'm never won't go fry
Speaker 1: your top five. That's you fling every time your body
Speaker 1: I think, go around times out time to say fact,
Speaker 1: they tell us out. I agree what you're saying. But
Speaker 1: where does it change from thy helping you write to
Speaker 1: a day in studio on Monday? This idea? Okay, Hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: don't listen. Figure does it when I'm gonna stage what
Speaker 1: I wanta stage? When I'm on stage, when it takes
Speaker 1: bad comments in the room, and when do you go
Speaker 1: yo his idea? Something you said this, you would have
Speaker 1: said that that right? That show doesn't die right, He's right?
Speaker 1: When do you say go trying to idea? No, I
Speaker 1: don't keep you wrong, said it's not if they wnt
Speaker 1: tell you to go? Was the study where you wrote it?
Speaker 1: And the way you don't? You that nothing? You take
Speaker 1: it on the content. We're gonna say, what if dory
Speaker 1: sais something that say we liked it, but I said
Speaker 1: say it this way and all of a sudden that's
Speaker 1: the most memorable line there is. Again, but that's where
Speaker 1: does that? I didn't mad it, write it, but I
Speaker 1: haven't made it a lot merorable laughs. He did, But
Speaker 1: that's a lie. It's a lot says memorable life saying
Speaker 1: to you is your greatest practice? Have got it? That's
Speaker 1: I'm quoted. They have snow, they've stolen, they've got it
Speaker 1: handed to them and they borrowed. They they will publish
Speaker 1: and checks they all have dead it ship right with you.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, go Yea's a lot of yea, or hit
Speaker 1: me and say you got I ain't never had no right,
Speaker 1: and that's fine, but you don't get an award for
Speaker 1: that right. What if you The difference with DA is
Speaker 1: saying that. I think the difference what you were saying
Speaker 1: is you're saying if a hit record comes from anywhere,
Speaker 1: it comes from anything, but also saying I'm also saying
Speaker 1: if I coach you to become the greatest, but that's
Speaker 1: for you there. You don't not just the to me,
Speaker 1: it's another writers. Another writer can help you become another rabbit.
Speaker 1: You don't think Jane got better by sitting next to
Speaker 1: this man next? Yeah? I think one. Okay, so listen,
Speaker 1: I'm just taking it. Let's go. I want to if
Speaker 1: you don't think that next time while he sitting to him,
Speaker 1: I might take what that and put on take a
Speaker 1: little bit. You you gotta wna give it. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give it to you. The thing about it is, I'm
Speaker 1: wanted to send agree with you. I wanted to set
Speaker 1: that me sitting next to the studio with NAS made
Speaker 1: me step up to write my part of body in
Speaker 1: the Trump. But he didn't. I didn't say that but
Speaker 1: he didn't. He didn't write my ideas idea to believe you.
Speaker 1: I don't want him to say, tell you what you
Speaker 1: just said. It made me a better person because I
Speaker 1: sat there with influence energy, you different thing from from
Speaker 1: from from me saying I'm motivated because now's in the
Speaker 1: studio and now now's is saying here you're saying no North,
Speaker 1: can I actually say you because like let me you
Speaker 1: can say it here. This is your ship you say this.
Speaker 1: Now I'm not that I not have. I actually became
Speaker 1: a person that I staying on the mountain, still on
Speaker 1: the mountain to tell these people that this is once
Speaker 1: a person did does that and I've done it. I've
Speaker 1: done it like where I've gave my actual literacy and
Speaker 1: gave me to another artist and another artist said you know,
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta tell you this line and this
Speaker 1: line because they didn't want to be me exactly there
Speaker 1: we go. They didn't want to be me, and the
Speaker 1: crazy chick is they say, no, we're not gonna take
Speaker 1: your vision from you. Like if that's like like pun
Speaker 1: punt gave me. You came up, But what making it happen?
Speaker 1: What what wasn't in there? He said. You came up
Speaker 1: and I put what what making that happen? From rapping
Speaker 1: on the car the possibly go. I put my other
Speaker 1: lines in there just to say I wanted to know,
Speaker 1: even though you put that in a position, but I
Speaker 1: got I want my own publishing. And I'm saying nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with that. I'm saying to you. They are rappers
Speaker 1: throughout history that have written their own ship and they
Speaker 1: get all the trumps what I'm saying to you, But
Speaker 1: I don't know when the rules like when the blur
Speaker 1: the rule that comes in that says if you're in
Speaker 1: this category, you lose credibility because someone else. We listen
Speaker 1: to SOO Wraps. This is when it started. It was
Speaker 1: first of all, there was personal responsibility and wrap you
Speaker 1: had to be the nigga you says there was. There
Speaker 1: was a time before the interview, before you even got
Speaker 1: in the studio, because it costs too much fucking money
Speaker 1: either get dealing, hoy or your fucking friend that was
Speaker 1: fucking playing some sports. So because I don't even cut
Speaker 1: you off, but you see what you just said. You
Speaker 1: isolated a certain section, you get general generalized. The ruler
Speaker 1: you generaliser did the plant over. We had dating Danes.
Speaker 1: We have niggas making records. That word trying to portray
Speaker 1: make ga't work because d J is a project dude.
Speaker 1: This is a dude for four Greek privat but just
Speaker 1: decided to make novel teeth. That's what I'm saying. Let's
Speaker 1: gonna say that, but they don't don't because they're type
Speaker 1: of records. He be, don't no, don't define it. The
Speaker 1: records by that day gotta be that nigga. And I said,
Speaker 1: that's that you just just you just past when I
Speaker 1: see him. You just made you take You said you
Speaker 1: wanted to have serious and that's not what I said, bro.
Speaker 1: I said back in in the earlier stages of the ship,
Speaker 1: somebody had been invest and it was not no record company.
Speaker 1: It was it was within us, within the confines of
Speaker 1: what situation we had. But you had to be who
Speaker 1: you worked. So even if dad was damon Dane, when
Speaker 1: it started to be like who, when it started who
Speaker 1: they want? Listen, listen when it started curious fart the
Speaker 1: spirit selling each what they want, Jesus said, resting, he said,
Speaker 1: not just every day they wasn't making it. Didn't do that.
Speaker 1: You passed to talk out and started that. First of all,
Speaker 1: they came from let's let's go. It was a little
Speaker 1: let's lyrically first, let's go lyrical for here. First it
Speaker 1: was lyrically for this was I'm just so cool. I
Speaker 1: gotta sucking credit card, says I wish you would. I
Speaker 1: gotta sucking food outside and take me. Yeah you can
Speaker 1: do you're taking, said Jerry Currs. I so cool. Then
Speaker 1: it was it was it wasn't I'm so rich, I
Speaker 1: can do this, I can do that, I can take
Speaker 1: your bitch. Then it was so so gangs. Then it
Speaker 1: was yeah, I'm black power. Then it was I'm so gangster.
Speaker 1: I sucked you up. Then it was I sell drugs,
Speaker 1: I shoot your mom's. Then it was like a fun
Speaker 1: just we don't get funk about nothing. And then he
Speaker 1: turned into a emo and my bitch everything. It's that
Speaker 1: softest picture. Question it we just said black power, I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't black power. How they were called the Africa,
Speaker 1: I was black. I was two kids in a cipher
Speaker 1: that was back flower. Before they were you reach it
Speaker 1: to you, they wanted to dropping the tooth. So I'm saying,
Speaker 1: y'all categorizing like we all have to portray ain't who
Speaker 1: we really were? When I tell him, you're waking up
Speaker 1: every day. I got a man who's wearing the feast
Speaker 1: with me. He't wearing that feast to go to the
Speaker 1: fucking store. Furious five wasn't wearing the feathers and the
Speaker 1: belts to go to the store. It was costume but
Speaker 1: a train. But who's riding for train? Not? You're taking
Speaker 1: it into the performance category Earth when the fire wasn't
Speaker 1: wearing for the Plexi race looking one of its quiet
Speaker 1: in my life, being quiet because I honored, because I'm
Speaker 1: saying the criteria of being a rapper again to get
Speaker 1: your your name came based on I'm saying lyrically, you've been.
Speaker 1: And when we think up, when we think against the rap,
Speaker 1: what's what's my man that robbed the bank from Sybil?
Speaker 1: Sat thinking doing life and definitely and we we think
Speaker 1: against the rock, we immediately think of New York and
Speaker 1: we immediately think, no, no, wes wet that we're gonna
Speaker 1: get desk. No, no, no no, no, let's take it back.
Speaker 1: Don't I tell you I'm telling you no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: don't tell you question about I'm so easy, easy and
Speaker 1: icequ told me the only reason why he wrap was
Speaker 1: because of school. He did. Listen, listen, listen, listen, you
Speaker 1: don't you told my listener, I say, New York City,
Speaker 1: so West Coast. We heard SCHOOLI d we heard school.
Speaker 1: No no PSK P chab was everywhere. We didn't did
Speaker 1: p with us the world. If w A came on,
Speaker 1: the Tonal rocks a real hip sing story the rest
Speaker 1: name it's so easy, he said, what about the best?
Speaker 1: He got shot fuck because a funk about the breach
Speaker 1: that suthing was like, oh ship, these names is crazy.
Speaker 1: First name don't make any listen every time before I
Speaker 1: see somebody like come on, you know, um um drink
Speaker 1: chance like go when I investigate that and I'm really,
Speaker 1: you're really a hip hop like you know, like like
Speaker 1: I'm so proud like everybody else, the greatest I ever heard.
Speaker 1: My brother had a party in the basement of our house.
Speaker 1: My brother's Chris. He was Chris. He was a d J.
Speaker 1: Everybody he was he was. His name was fucking dj.
Speaker 1: Uh we need to crease or something like that, uh
Speaker 1: snap back something like that. And we had a basically
Speaker 1: we had a party. We had a big We had
Speaker 1: a bought in the basement house. I snuffed downstairs into
Speaker 1: the bite baseman and I listened to a forty five
Speaker 1: forty five A run DMC suck MCS. It was the
Speaker 1: greatest thing I've heard of my life. It's not you
Speaker 1: know how some ships don't even it doesn't even red
Speaker 1: set in your ears because you never heard something like
Speaker 1: that before. So my ears was like, what the fund
Speaker 1: is this man? I said, I heard nothing like it before,
Speaker 1: and Run DMC to this day is the greatest fucking
Speaker 1: rap group of all time. So that day on, I've
Speaker 1: been a hip hop historian, not a fan historians. One
Speaker 1: of their whole records, they wrapped um what's her name?
Speaker 1: Whole first? Right, somebody else's first? Are they still the
Speaker 1: greatest rappers? They are the greatest rappers? Wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: tell it this way. It's got ther run. He took
Speaker 1: the red reckon and racked it because, like jay Z said,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that, Like jay Z said, like Jaz said,
Speaker 1: I didn't cross up. I brought the streakers listens, got
Speaker 1: run DMC writing. They took the original record of walked
Speaker 1: This Way, the arrow Swift version, and put it into
Speaker 1: a way Okay, what's jay Z's look, I didn't I
Speaker 1: didn't cross somebody. I brought this, I brought the day
Speaker 1: I brought to do it, says years right, right, one
Speaker 1: we see that I didn't cross over bould. What we
Speaker 1: say to that, I don't I know you want? That's
Speaker 1: just the same, are like this generally want. I don't
Speaker 1: don't know what you want. Breaker, I'm trying to say,
Speaker 1: he's saying. I'm trying to say a little. We can't
Speaker 1: judge no hip hop. No, this can't tell another or listen.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if you claim it be one of the great,
Speaker 1: you cannot be a go grade. Right, you don't get
Speaker 1: right so so so so all right, so me and
Speaker 1: talk and Johnny Mack, Right, me and Johnny Mack. There's
Speaker 1: one thing I need to kind of stood time and
Speaker 1: jolly that this stuff one of Cholny mats savorite mc
Speaker 1: is of all time. It's mel No the favorite craters.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about recent recent it's Kanye West. Okay like that, Okay, no,
Speaker 1: turn them around. I'm gonna turn the micro round the mic. No, no,
Speaker 1: don't no, no, I'm saying to you, I'm talking about
Speaker 1: in terms of lyricist is a difference. Kay right, he
Speaker 1: doesn't absolutely fact everybody. I'm seeing one of these players.
Speaker 1: Then tell Meline no never Er, no doctor, I say dot,
Speaker 1: I said rapper, I ain't say lyrics different. I still
Speaker 1: get difference. No, got a difference. You see what I
Speaker 1: did if I didn't talk racists ready, ones that wrote
Speaker 1: the five, one that wrote their lyrics. Listen, so five, No,
Speaker 1: I wasn't no because I'm saying again I'm reason. I'm
Speaker 1: saying reason man. Because again there's lyrics. There's there's lines
Speaker 1: that you love from him that was written by somebody else.
Speaker 1: I say, that's not a big faith. Everybody knew that.
Speaker 1: He says, I'm getting it. Said, No, No, there's there's
Speaker 1: no Listen there's one talking about girl. No, no j
Speaker 1: j j Z with j J. Here's lines that that
Speaker 1: you love from that that he didn't write. Yeah, you've
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