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There are absolutely self involved. 17 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: God, here are. 18 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 3: Your hosts, John Annik and Kenny Florian. 19 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 5: That's Wright Anakin Floring podcast, back in your life and 20 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 5: it is great to be with you for a second 21 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 5: time this week, just days in advance of UFC to 22 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 5: eighty six. This is our three hundred and ninety sixth 23 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 5: episode presented by DraftKings. Not in London just yet, but 24 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 5: very excited to be there and very excited to have 25 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 5: off the top of the show today. You may know 26 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 5: him as a regular contributor here or on Severe MMA 27 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 5: or shir Dog dot com. The Great Sean she And 28 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 5: is with us back from a wedding and squeezing us 29 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 5: in good evening, sir, how are you? 30 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: Oh? 31 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, nothing bad. I have a little friend with me 32 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 6: as earlier. Look at this. 33 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 4: Look what I found my uh yeah kee out of 34 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 4: my office. 35 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 6: I was like that right now, it's that's it. Yeah, 36 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 6: it's amazing the presents you get as an mm A 37 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 6: fan in Ireland growing up when no one else has 38 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 6: heard of Emma anything. This c ufc Yeah, I would 39 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 6: bite that for like he had like six months a 40 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 6: give him for his birthday. You know, I got Kenny 41 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 6: for my birthday. 42 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 4: That was great. 43 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 5: So if you're listening and not watching, was that a 44 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 5: Kenny Florian action figures? 45 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 2: That was. 46 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 4: Shock. 47 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 5: We'll have to talk off the air about how much 48 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 5: you might be willing to sell that to me for. 49 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 5: But in the conversation for another day. Hey, so I 50 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 5: heard you talking to our producer backstage before the start 51 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 5: of the show about Christian Leroy Duncan, who makes his 52 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 5: UFC debut this weekend, so might as well pick your 53 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 5: brain on him. Former Cage Warriors champion, a lot of 54 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 5: potential your thoughts on him coming into the big show 55 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 5: this weekend. 56 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 6: My brother I was doing a podcast with someone recently, 57 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 6: you know, a fellow person who kind of covers the UK, 58 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 6: Irish European scene, and I kind of asked the question, 59 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 6: if you had to pick one person from the whole 60 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 6: scene who you think would be a future UFC champion, 61 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 6: who would it be? And we both picked Christian, right, Duncan. 62 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 6: That's I think how good he is. He's he hasn't 63 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 6: had many fights. I think he's only what eight nine 64 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 6: fights into his crib, but he's had a lot of 65 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 6: experience as an amateur. And you know, Indian is the 66 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 6: matchmaker over in Cage where he's a brilliant mind and 67 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 6: a brilliant guy doing it, and he's been giving him 68 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 6: tougher tests. After a tougher test, some guys, you know, 69 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 6: you have to go and you have to watch a 70 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 6: lot of fights over in pauland and rush it to 71 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 6: see how good they are. You watch this fight. Oh, 72 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 6: this is going to be a tough test for Christiani 73 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 6: Roy Duncan and then he swallows him up and around. 74 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 6: That's the type of fighter he is. He's a phenom 75 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 6: really good athletically good underground go to restling, but brilliant striking. 76 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 6: And with the middleweight division the way it is at 77 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 6: the moment, I think he can climb quickly. And you 78 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 6: see by the matchmaking because USC matchmakers now as well 79 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 6: he's fighting, He's got the tour of it. Who's you know, 80 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 6: a good fighter who knockout powers, had a lot of 81 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 6: UFC fights, so he's not getting a gimme straight away 82 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 6: at all. 83 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 4: But I think he'll be well able for you. 84 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 6: Know, you never know what the UFC geners and all that, 85 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 6: so give me a little bit of a fallback here. 86 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 6: But I think he has a really really really high 87 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 6: top end ceiling and I'm really looking forward to seeing 88 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 6: that where he can go. 89 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 4: It's an exciting watching him. 90 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 5: I love it all right. So when we have you 91 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 5: on and we got to make it a monthly thing, 92 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 5: I always feel like I'm chasing the clock. Any number 93 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 5: of different directions in which we can go, but I 94 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 5: want to start with Morob Dwallish Willie if I could, 95 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 5: because we're only a few days removed from his main event, 96 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 5: went over pyotr Yan, and I'm hearing guys like Kenny 97 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 5: Florian and Ray Longo and Matt Sarah suggest that they've 98 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 5: never seen anything quite like this guy. You've got a 99 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 5: very good historical framework for this sport, for the bantamweight division. 100 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 5: Are we getting a little bit too superlative? I'm not 101 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 5: sure that anybody has weaponized pressure quite as well as 102 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 5: he had against against elite competition. Your thoughts on Morob 103 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 5: over pyotr Yan last weekend? 104 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 6: See I think the difference between Morob and a lot 105 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 6: of other people from years gone by who would I 106 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 6: suppose be looked at as very strong, dominating rapplers like 107 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 6: John Fitch and Yushinokami and even gsp to a certainness, 108 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 6: and others it felt always like they prayed on the 109 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 6: weakness of their opponents. So John Fitch was a better 110 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 6: wrestleran almost everyone he thought was ever taken down and 111 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 6: kind of, you know, to destroy lots of guys that way. 112 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 6: We're in here and for everyone like Perry and included, 113 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 6: is massively well rounded, so to be able to do 114 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 6: that to fighters who don't have that gaping weakness in 115 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 6: their game is just it's just another level. It's it's grand, 116 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 6: Like anyone could come out and wrestle me and take 117 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 6: me down and destroy me. 118 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 4: But to do it to Kenny Flaurier, to do it. 119 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 6: The betteriana to do it to anyone in the UFC 120 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 6: at a high level is a different start of thing. 121 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 6: And for a RAB, it's it's special because like I 122 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 6: looked at the RAB and you know, we're obviously the 123 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 6: Reilan girls involved here and everything, and they're a big 124 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 6: rail long fans and I'm bringing RAB fans and everything 125 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 6: like that. But I wasn't convinced, Honestly, I wasn't convinced 126 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 6: that that style could get to a high level. That's 127 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 6: the style because he's so good, it could always work 128 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 6: up until a certain level. But I was kind of thinking, like, 129 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 6: there's so many mistakedowns, there's so much pressure put on. 130 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 6: Can he keep this going over five rounds? And it 131 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 6: actually got better over five rounds, And it's a way, 132 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 6: you know, we talk about you know, obviously I always 133 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 6: come on and talk about judging over three rounds, there's issue, 134 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 6: there's an issue with that style because let's say, you know, 135 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 6: Cheetah error the way he's won a couple of rounds recently, 136 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 6: he's lost the last the last big shot, you lose 137 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 6: the round that can happen to Merab because Morab w 138 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 6: one five rounds of the weekend, not one of them 139 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 6: is close to a ten A. We weren't even talking 140 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 6: about tennets, you know, So one big shot, big knockdown 141 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 6: can happen you lose around For that happened twice in 142 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 6: a three round fight, is you know, it's very possible 143 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 6: for that happened three times in a five round fight 144 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 6: or more is more unlikely, especially with the way you 145 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 6: get to the you know, the latter half of the 146 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 6: second round into the tour round and you can no 147 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 6: longer breathe, never mind punch him. 148 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 4: In the face. You know. So his style works so 149 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 4: much better. 150 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 6: And the one thing is that I kind of put 151 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 6: it out there and people are taken as a negative 152 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 6: and it wasn't like I think he broke the record, 153 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 6: but I'm pretty sure he did. For the most missed 154 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 6: takedowns in UFC history, he had to have. But that's 155 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 6: in a three round fight. I think that's a negative 156 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 6: in some ways, but in a five round fight it's 157 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 6: a positive because when he misses those takenounds, like some 158 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 6: of them are giving u s takedowns. And he wasn't 159 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 6: even trying to take him down. He was just and 160 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 6: push him into the de cage, pushing me in against 161 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 6: the clinch. And you saw Longo got very very easy instructions. Takedown, strike, takedown, 162 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 6: you've threat things to do, and though the two of 163 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 6: them are the same, you know, and he just. 164 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 4: Did that for twenty five minutes, non stop. 165 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 6: And if you can do that for twenty five minutes 166 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 6: non stop against the high level of guy like that 167 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 6: and just shut down their complete game, it makes you 168 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 6: the most well rounded fighter in the world because you 169 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 6: can shut down every single part of another guy's game. 170 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 6: And to do that to a guy who has everyone. 171 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 6: I assume we've all gone back and watched that Maga 172 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 6: med Mega Meta fight at this stage, the second one 173 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 6: where for twenty five minutes, Yean just stop every single takedown. 174 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 6: He did it for most of this fight, especially early 175 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 6: in the fight, and to still be able to beat 176 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 6: him and end up, you know, kind of destroying him 177 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 6: towards the end. It was phenomenal. So it's it's it's 178 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 6: very different from the old school grappers we had who 179 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 6: were dominating guys who had issues. He's dominating the guy 180 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 6: who has Okay, everyone has issues, but not the type 181 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 6: of gaping holes of people in the past had shot. 182 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: I want to rewind a little bit because we haven't 183 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 2: talked to you since the last pay per view. What 184 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: do you think of John Jones's performance and where does 185 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: he sit in the goat talk for you? 186 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 6: Oh God, I got into this the other day and 187 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 6: I wished immediately I hadn't got into it. I look, 188 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 6: in my opinion, there's there's four people in the conversation. 189 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 6: One of them is up behind me there, Demitri Johanson, 190 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 6: the other is John Jones, Anderson Silva and GSP. Those 191 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 6: two me are the four. A lot of people are 192 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 6: getting onto me. Josialdo I love Jose Aldo. If there 193 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 6: was a fifth, he probably would be the fifth for me. 194 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 6: But I think it's those four and we can argue 195 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 6: who you think. I think Dimitri Johnson because I think 196 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 6: the greatest fighter of all time is the best fighter 197 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 6: of all time, is the most skillful, and just for me, 198 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 6: he is. But if you look at what John Jones 199 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 6: has done. It's very hard to argue against him. Look, 200 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 6: it's hard to argue against any of them, to be honest, 201 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 6: and it's easy to argue far all of them because 202 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 6: they're so good. 203 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 4: But on his performance itself, do you know what? For 204 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 4: as a. 205 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 6: Purely someone who loves the analyze fights and talk about 206 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 6: fights and as a fan of the fight, it was 207 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 6: a bit disappointing because we didn't see more, you know, 208 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 6: and especially I was there, you know, half six in 209 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 6: the morning or whatever it was, and it felt like 210 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 6: the fight was over before it was even over. They 211 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 6: showed the reaction of John and the guys in the 212 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 6: commentary and you're all like kind of looking at each 213 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 6: other like what happened there? And we saw a replay 214 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 6: and we saw what did happen? So that was fine, 215 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 6: but it just felt like we were kind of robbed 216 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 6: a little bit of seeing John Jones at me, because like, 217 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 6: there's if he goes in and fight stupid. We still 218 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 6: have those questions like can John Jones produce at heavyweight 219 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 6: over you know, twenty five minutes? Is John Jones's game 220 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 6: going to be as useful at heavyweight as it is 221 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 6: at light heavyweight, and we can all of our assumptions 222 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 6: about that, and I think most of those assumptions would 223 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 6: be positive now, but there's still assumptions we don't actually know, 224 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 6: So for that to kind of be taken away was 225 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 6: was unfortunate. But still Jones went in there, like the 226 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 6: only thing we really saw approving on that Saturday night 227 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 6: was that Serial Gangs ground game is you know, very suspects, 228 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 6: and John Jones took complete advantage of that. But you 229 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 6: have to be that good to be able to take 230 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 6: advantage of it. So he proved that in one way. 231 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 6: But you know what he did prove that his next 232 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 6: paper view is going to be a massive seller, I think, 233 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 6: because everyone's going to want to tune in to see 234 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 6: John Jones fight again. So it's a little bit of 235 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 6: a negative, I suppose in that way, a positive for 236 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 6: John Jones because you have to win, but a massive 237 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 6: positive for John Jones because like if you managed to 238 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 6: get there the next time for the big fight against Steve, 239 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 6: everyone will be absolutely dying to see what he looks 240 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 6: like again because all those questions are still left unanswered. 241 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 5: Severe Mma Shan she and with us here on the 242 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 5: Anak and Florian podcast. How critical were you on your 243 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 5: show shows to see ittle gone fairly critical? 244 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 6: To be honest, I like it's very tough for me 245 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 6: to sit here at home and go that. You know, 246 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 6: how do you find yourself in that choke when you 247 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 6: are that level of fighter? But also like you have 248 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 6: to do that? I think like you you you look 249 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 6: at a fight right where he fought Francis Inganu and 250 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 6: he got beaten in a similar start of way to 251 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 6: everything that came before the chalk right, he got taken 252 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 6: down with a body lock over and over. If people 253 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 6: might remember Francis Singhan who didn't take him down once 254 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 6: with like what you would call like a regular takedown, 255 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 6: no double legs, no single legs. I think he got 256 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 6: like five six takedowns. One was when gang kicked like 257 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 6: above his head and Francis kind of slammed him. All 258 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 6: the rest were body lock you know, muscle takedowns if 259 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 6: you want to say that way. And that's exactly what 260 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 6: John Jones took him down with. And I think to myself, 261 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 6: like what is going on here? Like how the first thing, 262 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 6: like two minutes into a fight, you get taken out, 263 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 6: Like if you got taken out with a single leg 264 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 6: or a double leg or something different. I could have said, okay, 265 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 6: fair enough, but God might when you're taken down by 266 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 6: that and then you get caught in a submission. John 267 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 6: Jones completely takes off the submission, readjusts himself, goes back in, 268 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 6: gets a submission again, and then you get tapped. I'm like, 269 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 6: you know, I'm not, I'm not or anything like that. 270 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 6: But that doesn't look good. 271 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 5: That is not good, and much worse upon the watch, honestly, 272 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 5: when Shohn bails on it and then with relative ease, 273 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 5: sinks it right back in. All right, a few other 274 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 5: things that I want to get to with the great 275 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 5: Sean Sheen. So in terms of the altitude as a 276 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 5: factor in the first fight, or excuse me, the second 277 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 5: fight between Leon Edwards and kamar Usman, right, so they 278 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 5: fought in August last August UFC two seventy eight, and 279 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 5: Leon Edwards was largely listless in those middle rounds. So 280 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 5: some people when they are handicapping this trilogy matchup, they're 281 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 5: talking a lot about altitude. Even Gilbert Urino Burns suggesting 282 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 5: that he is picking Leon Edwards because he just expects 283 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 5: him to be better and Teddy Atlas said to me 284 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 5: this week that when a champion wins the title, they 285 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 5: become thirty percent better. Now that's not necessarily his theory. 286 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 5: I do subscribe to that philosophically. I think you win 287 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 5: the belt, you become twenty percent better, like instantly Alexa Grosso, 288 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 5: Leon Edwards instantly twenty percent better. But to what extent, 289 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 5: if you can get predictive with me, do you think 290 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 5: that the altitude should be factored into a handicap for 291 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,239 Speaker 5: the main event this week. 292 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 6: I'm not sure, to be honest, Like, I think the 293 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 6: second part of that is is more of a concern 294 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 6: in terms of how much better has Lion gotten, how 295 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 6: much worse has Kamara who got, or how much better 296 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 6: that his made KAMARAO, we don't know. We don't know 297 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 6: that answer, like the think under the champions, you know 298 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 6: we're getting twenty percent better as well. I always something 299 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 6: Rashad Evans once said always stuck out to me. He said, 300 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 6: I won the title, and the next morning I woke 301 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 6: up and I was the same guy. I was like, 302 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 6: I thought everything would be different. I thought my whole 303 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 6: life would change, but it really didn't. You know, I 304 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 6: was just a fighter. Who had to train hard every 305 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 6: day to fight my next fight even though I had 306 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 6: the belt, and like, that's not the same for everyone now, 307 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 6: and you know, maybe maybe Leon is a different mentality 308 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 6: to that, but I'm sure there is a bit of 309 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 6: that there as well, and you have to kind of 310 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 6: climb over that hurdle to get to that twenty percent 311 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 6: to go into your next fight. So that's an interesting Well, 312 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 6: none of this is a given, like you would think. 313 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 6: Ousman getting knocked out it's a given, and he might 314 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 6: not be as confident going into this, but not necessarily 315 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 6: he could be. His whole mindset could be I can't 316 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 6: believe that fuck or knocked me out. I'm gonna go 317 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 6: in here and do absolutely everything. I'm gonna train as 318 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 6: hard as I've ever trained before and go in there 319 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 6: and beat him. So we really don't know, Like I 320 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 6: think the knockout part is a massive part as well, 321 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 6: because I think I mentioned this on the show before, 322 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 6: but I spoke to Michaly Bissing once and talked about 323 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 6: the Dan Henderson knockout, and he told me the next 324 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 6: time he came to fight, he was backstage and he 325 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 6: was thinking, oh my god, the last time I was fighting. 326 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 6: I got knocked clean out. The most embarrassing thing about 327 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 6: you know what ever happened. Usman is in the exact 328 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 6: same position now going into this fight, Like how will 329 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 6: that mentally play against him? 330 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 4: I don't know. 331 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 6: And it's like it's such an interesting fight to break 332 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 6: down from a tactical point of view, because like I 333 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 6: think most people would agree before the last fight, after 334 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 6: the last fight that Usman is like slightly ahead in 335 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 6: terms of a technical fighter and a tactical fighter. And 336 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 6: got caught with a big knockout, which was great. There 337 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 6: was no piece of look about it whatsoever if anyone 338 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 6: says that they're a budget artists. He set it up, 339 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 6: landed the shot, knocked him out, nothing at all lucky 340 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 6: about it. But throughout the whole, you know, twenty three 341 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 6: minutes of the fight or whatever we saw from the 342 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 6: first round, apart from you know, part of the fifth round, 343 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 6: Usman was the better fight. But what a fighter? Sorry, 344 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 6: but what if he's five percent less? Like is Edwards 345 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 6: good enough to take advantage if he's five percent yet less? 346 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 6: And I would say yes, is the answer to that 347 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 6: because Usman is like a massively well round the fighter. 348 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 6: I was talking about it on the podcast this week, like, 349 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 6: is he the best striker. 350 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 4: In that division? 351 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 6: No? 352 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 4: Is he the best wrestler in that division? 353 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 6: No? Does he have the best cardy on that division? 354 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 6: He's up there, but I would probably say no, Like 355 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 6: he's not the best at anything in that division, but 356 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 6: there's no one as well rounded as he is. If 357 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 6: you have an issue anywhere, whether it's mentally as Usman 358 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 6: might have, whether it's wrestling obviously with Chusman doesn't have, 359 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 6: whether it striking, whether it's cardiyo or whatever it might be, 360 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 6: he will take advantage of it. If you're you know, 361 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 6: if the crowd is rolling at you when you come out, 362 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 6: all the English crowd behind you Edwards and you can't 363 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 6: handle that, he will take advantage of it. So this 364 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 6: is a fight I think where we saw the last 365 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 6: time Usman needed to be perfect and he wasn't, and 366 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 6: I think he needs to be again. Nothing you know, 367 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 6: usually be said that we like, if you're fighting McGregor 368 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 6: or a big knockout punter or something like that, you 369 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 6: have to be perfect. When Edwards it's a little bit 370 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 6: different because you throw away around, you throw away at 371 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 6: two rounds. It's a very very tough position. Can someone 372 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 6: as well around the same song, There's so many different integers. 373 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 6: I'm going to the second fight, Honestly, I wasn't that 374 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 6: excited about it, to be honest. I wanted to see 375 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 6: the Shamoya fight and I want to see a couple 376 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 6: of Rudni fights. 377 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 4: But now I'm massively. 378 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 6: Excited for this one because there's so much we just 379 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 6: don't know. 380 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 5: Some people billing it as the singular biggest fight in 381 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 5: UK mixed martial arts history. We asked our listeners and 382 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 5: viewers pull question on the Anakin Florian podcast and I 383 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 5: wanted to throw this your way shot. I don't need 384 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 5: any long form answer necessarily, and I don't even know 385 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 5: necessarily how predictive you're forced to get on your show. 386 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 5: But of the four fighters atop the marquee at UFC 387 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 5: two to eighty six, and I'll list them in order 388 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 5: of betting favorite largest to smallest, kamar Usman, Rafael Phazibe, 389 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 5: Justin Gaichee, Leon Edwards in whom are you most confident 390 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 5: to get a win this weekend? And overwhelmingly well forty 391 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 5: percent of responding said kamar Usman, which is a high percentage. 392 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 5: Who are you most confident in terms of the Big 393 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 5: Four this weekend. 394 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 4: I don't know, know, I haven't answer that. 395 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 6: I want to be honest, my two picks are are 396 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 6: Usman and Physiv, but I'm not massively confident confident in 397 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 6: either of them, to be honest, like, I don't know 398 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 6: one thing. I think a lot of people are right 399 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 6: off Justin Gaichie very easily. Here we forget how good 400 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 6: of a fighter Justin Gachie actually is. And I just 401 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 6: wonder if he had in something a little bit different. Yeah, 402 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 6: we're all expecting. I think Rockham Soccer robots barn Burn 403 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 6: are over three rounds, But I wonder will he just 404 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 6: trying to take down I wonder will he do something 405 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 6: a little bit different against Physiev? But also do you 406 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 6: do you want to do that? Because if I think, 407 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 6: if you're gay to you go a bit little bit 408 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 6: more technical, you're playing into Geichy's Sorry, if you're Gey 409 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 6: you go a bit more technical, you're playing into Physiev's game. 410 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 6: Do you push that Pesco absolutely all out and try 411 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 6: to push the cardio issues that we've seen with Physiev 412 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 6: in the Bobby Green fight and in the the Sian 413 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 6: Just fight as well. 414 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 4: Very interesting, But I don't know. I go with physia 415 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 4: physiv is man. I went along. I always go along. 416 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 5: No, it's good, that's good, all right, before I let 417 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 5: you go? Should I curb my enthusiasm on Ian Gary? 418 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 5: When I suggest that he's ready for top fifteen competition? 419 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 5: I feel pretty convicted in saying that he has a 420 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 5: great chance to become a world champion in one of 421 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 5: the UFC's most competitive divisions. I think he's elite right now. 422 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 5: I think there are matchups in the top fifteen that 423 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 5: are favorable right now. Where is your level of enthusiasm 424 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 5: for Ian Gary as we sit here early twenty twenty three. 425 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: I try to. 426 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 6: Temper it a little bit because I don't want to 427 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 6: go overboard, because you know, I did the whole Irish 428 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 6: ticke and everything like that. But he I interviewed in 429 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 6: Gary before he made his professional debut, and I've seen 430 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 6: all these amateur fights and everything like that, and I've 431 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 6: been excited about him for a long, long long time, 432 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 6: and I think we got to the point where I 433 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 6: don't rush it now. Maybe you know, if you move 434 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 6: him that one step too quickly, I think it might 435 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 6: be an issue. I would love to see. I think 436 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 6: you mentioned an interview he did recently, Nico Price. What 437 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 6: a fight that would be, What an exciting fight that way, 438 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 6: I would love to see that did Maybe you know 439 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 6: Brian Barberan and Gunnar Nelson are fighting next week. Give 440 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 6: him the winner that in after that maybe, and then 441 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 6: we can start talking about top fifteen votes. No problem too. 442 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 6: I think what he needs next is a guy everyone knows. 443 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 6: You know, he's fought some good guys so far, but 444 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 6: a lot of people maybe have to you know, go 445 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 6: on short Doug and see who they are kind of 446 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 6: a thing. No one has to do that with Heco Price, 447 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 6: No one has to do that with Bunny Neilson, No 448 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 6: one has to that with Brian Barberina. I think that's 449 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 6: what he needs next, and didn't move him on further 450 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 6: after that, because, yeah, he has top fifteen written all 451 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 6: over him. He has Top five written all over him 452 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 6: if things keep going the way they do. But we've 453 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 6: seen many fighters before like that and they haven't reached it, 454 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 6: so he'll he'll have to knuckle down and stay behind 455 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 6: the Henry Hooft is a great gym over there, and 456 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 6: I know he's been training with Lean Edwards as well 457 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 6: when he's been back in the UK, So yeah, he's 458 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 6: some he's some great training behind him, but that definitely 459 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 6: has always been a top notch prospect and that he 460 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 6: will continue to be. 461 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 5: It's a great answer. Ready to go too with some 462 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 5: possible future matchups fore and Gary, and I think that 463 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 5: makes more sense right now. Nico Price probably number twenty 464 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 5: five in the world and the name recognition is certainly there, 465 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 5: all right. If you want more from Shaun Sheen on 466 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 5: Twitter at Shan SHEENBA Severe MMA, shirt dog dot Com. 467 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 5: Very much appreciate you, brother. Enjoy the pay per view 468 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 5: this weekend. I am still sitting on my two tickets, 469 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 5: so I know you can get credentialed and you're probably 470 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 5: more connected than I even know. But if you change 471 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 5: your mind, my two tickets are years this weekend. 472 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 4: Okay, iol. 473 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 5: We'll talk Shan she. 474 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 4: Here. 475 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 2: Always always good stuff. 476 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 5: From Shan Sheen here on the Anak and Florian podcast. 477 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 5: I did think it was interesting when I went on 478 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 5: Teddy Atlas's show earlier this week, Kenny, when he said 479 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 5: you win the title, you become thirty percent better, And 480 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 5: I don't know if he was attributing that quote to someone, 481 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 5: But in part he was piggybacking upon something that I 482 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 5: had said, which is to suggest that like Leon Edwards 483 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 5: became better as soon as he walked out of that arena. 484 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 5: And now maybe I leaned too much into the aesthetic 485 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 5: on Instagram how he feels like he's taking his strength 486 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 5: and conditioning to a whole new level. But to what 487 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 5: extent do you subscribe to the theory that when you 488 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 5: become the champion you become twenty to thirty percent better. 489 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 2: I think it is different for everyone. I will I 490 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 2: will use my own story to answer that. Though when 491 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 2: I was fighting, I wanted to know I wanted to 492 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 2: fight the best guys, but I didn't know that I 493 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 2: wanted to be I didn't know that I would be 494 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 2: a world champion. I wanted to be a world champion, 495 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 2: and I think I was always waiting for that championship 496 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 2: moment to pull through, and I always felt I was 497 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: on the if I could get over that hump, that 498 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 2: absolutely I would. I would get that in my mind 499 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,959 Speaker 2: confidence wise for my training of what I was doing, 500 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,719 Speaker 2: for my approach for my next fight. I always knew 501 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: that or I felt like it would have made me 502 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 2: at least thirty percent better for sure. I that was 503 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 2: like one of the big things for me, and I 504 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 2: definitely believe that to be true for a lot of fighters. 505 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: You are you don't know that you could be a 506 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 2: world champion, but you're trying to. And I think getting 507 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 2: to that moment means so much, and I think it 508 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 2: proved so much to yourself that it gives you this 509 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: insane amount of confidence. And yeah, I felt like that 510 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: would have been the case for me, So that was 511 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: surprising to hear that with Rashaw. 512 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 5: That's interesting, It is interesting, and it's a longer form conversation. 513 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 5: But when Kenny fought Joe Stevenson, if you don't know, 514 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 5: a UFC ninety one in two thousand and eight, underneath 515 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 5: Randy Kotour and Brock Lesner. It was one of the 516 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 5: biggest fights of Kenny's career, and there was so much 517 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 5: pressure on Kenny because it felt like he was being 518 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 5: groomed as the number one contender yet again, and he 519 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 5: knew if he won this fight, he was going to 520 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 5: be fighting for the belt. And you didn't just win 521 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 5: the fight, but you dominated huge showcase fight, massive pay 522 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 5: per view, and I just have to think going home 523 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 5: after that fight, your confidence was probably on a completely 524 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 5: different level. But you also are not yet the champion, 525 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 5: and knowing you the way I know you, you're thinking 526 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 5: about all the work that probably you just laid out 527 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 5: for yourself just by winning that fight, you know. 528 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 2: But totally totally man. 529 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 5: All right, Well, hope you're getting ready for UFC two 530 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 5: to eighty six. It is just a couple of days 531 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 5: away the welterweight Championship to be decided in this historic 532 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 5: third matchup between Leon Edwards and Kamara Ousman. 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So Ken Faugh 550 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 5: and I don't live in Massachusetts anymore, but sports betting 551 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 5: is now legal in Massachusetts as of just a few 552 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 5: days ago. To that end, let us make some selections 553 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 5: and get to our main event challenge. 554 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 4: It's the main event challenge. 555 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 5: The time is most define. 556 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 2: How do you everything possible to win? 557 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 3: The main event Challenge with John Hennick and Kenny Florian. 558 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 5: Podcast Big Gun. Brian Petrie go. 559 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 2: It's good to see you brother. 560 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 4: Hey boys, how are we doing? 561 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 5: So my twin brother felt like I should issue you 562 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 5: an on air apology for last week. So nobody's happier 563 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 5: for your success than me and can flow. Okay, I'm 564 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 5: not sure anybody pumps out the MMA Takes podcast as 565 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 5: much as I do, right, So I would be expectant 566 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 5: that if you go on Serious XM satellite radio that 567 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 5: they would maybe promote our podcast, and so I guess 568 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 5: my venom should have been directed at them. But I 569 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 5: got in like a major fight with my twin brother 570 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 5: about this because he thought my venom was directed at you. No, 571 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 5: so I'm just here to apologize if you sort of 572 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 5: felt that. You know I, but you know, my Serious 573 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 5: ExM boycott boycott continues through International Fight Week, whether my 574 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 5: twin brother likes it or not. 575 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 4: I come from a long line of ball busting. I 576 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 4: mean literally, that's all me and my stepfather do that. 577 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 4: Instead of giving each other hugs, we insult each other. 578 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 4: So I liked it because I froze when he goes 579 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 4: Brian Peach from him and it takes podcasts at Brian 580 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 4: Peach MMA, I'm like, wait, shit, hold on, no, I'm yeah, yes, 581 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 4: but I'm also from another bigger show, which is what 582 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 4: most people know me from. So I kind of froze 583 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,959 Speaker 4: a little bit, but no, thank you. Listen, no one 584 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 4: rides hard for me than John Anick behind the scenes, 585 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 4: on camera or whatever. I love it, and thank you 586 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 4: for Jason and Egg. What a lovely human being. To 587 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 4: have my back. I thank you, Jason. 588 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,959 Speaker 5: I mean I can only be the president of Team Flory, 589 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 5: and it sounds like Jay is like the president of 590 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 5: Team Petriet. He came out with every park. But you 591 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 5: can also catch Brian Petree in advance of UFC two 592 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 5: eighty six on MMA Fighting dot Com and he'll also 593 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 5: be on v Sin Show on Saturday with Dave Ross 594 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 5: and Matt Brown. I believe getting you prime for UFC 595 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 5: two eighty six do it. 596 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 2: So I'm going to. 597 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 5: Update the standings. But before I'm gonna do that, I 598 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 5: just quickly wanted to get your thoughts on Morob Dwallis 599 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 5: Willy because I got Sean Sheen's thoughts and certainly you 600 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 5: heard from Ray Longo and Matt Sarah a few days ago. 601 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 5: No point of comparison for me, man, This dude's the 602 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 5: real deal and on a championship trajectory. To be sure, 603 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 5: to what extent were you blown away by Morob last Saturday? 604 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 4: I mean extremely blown away. Most kappers they don't like 605 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 4: being wrong, right, They get chirped at and they get 606 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 4: very sensitive. Hey, you know, you know I want the heat. 607 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 4: I was wrong. I picked Yon. I thought the fight 608 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 4: was gonna be different. My pre fight read was wrong. 609 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 4: And we're sitting there watching the fights and I had 610 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 4: a pretty good night betting and I had Yon. I 611 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 4: had Yon by decision, and as the fights going on, 612 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 4: I'm really quiet. My wife goes, oh no, oh, no, 613 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 4: you're losing a lot of money, aren't you. Who do 614 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 4: you got? Who should we root for? And it has 615 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 4: nothing to do with me being mad. I was blown away. 616 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 4: That was their career changing performance. That's like Mario when 617 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 4: he gets the mushroom. He leveled up Morob. The out 618 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 4: of fight was a big fight, but he didn't look 619 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 4: as good as he got. He was striking, he was 620 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 4: interrupting Yon striking with his takedowns. Forty nine takedown attempts 621 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 4: could look like he could have win another five rounds. 622 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 4: I was in awe. And that's my biggest problem with 623 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 4: the Kapper is I'm a fan first, so the money aside. 624 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 4: I was blown away by Myrob's performance. No one's gonna 625 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 4: want to fight that guy. I won thirty five. I mean, 626 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 4: it's crazy. Who's signing the dotted line to fight him? 627 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 4: And all the smarter people than me, like Kenny got 628 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 4: him at plus money, which is in saying because I 629 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 4: don't see that happening anytime soon either. So just overall, 630 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 4: just an incredible level of performance by Morob and I 631 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 4: couldn't be have for it. Seems like a nice guy, obviously, 632 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 4: kind of family in the podcast with Ray and stuff. 633 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 5: So I mean, just unbelievable and an unbelievable battle for 634 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 5: airtime between Ray Longo and Matt Sarah on our Monday show, 635 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 5: so much so that we didn't get to acknowledge Alexander Volkov, who, 636 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 5: by the way, Ken Flow changed his pick to uh 637 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 5: the tail Petri. There you guys had Volkov plus one thirty. 638 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 5: We didn't talk about Nikita Krilov. Kenny, I don't know 639 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 5: the jiu jitsu world, but I'm just saying, like I'm 640 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 5: avoiding fighting Nikita Krilov if I'm a light heavyweight contender. 641 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 5: I just feel like he is so problematic in so 642 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 5: many different areas of the game, and uh, just want 643 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 5: to get your two cents on that fight. I know 644 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 5: you did pick Krilla. 645 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 2: The dude just wants to fight you. He wants to 646 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: get right in your face and just scrap. Let's get 647 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 2: right to the point here, Who's who's the better man. 648 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 2: Uh and I love that about him. Uh, And I 649 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 2: don't I think it was the right approach because I 650 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 2: don't think Span was ready for that level of pressure 651 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: and pacing. You know Span Span can get down to 652 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: Dirty two. But I think over time, I think he 653 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 2: started to lose confidence. He was going for a bunch 654 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 2: of submissions, was losing position, and Kriloff just was kind 655 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 2: of kept getting out of those positions. Span was getting 656 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 2: more frustrated, and because of it, he lost confidence and 657 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 2: Kriloff started to take over. Uh just kind of fell 658 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 2: right into that trigle man and Kriloff is a finisher 659 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 2: through and through. That was a wild fight, dude. 660 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 5: And then BP, Yeah, you had I eating her mago 661 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 5: Metov over Jonathan Martinez. It sounds to me, based upon 662 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 5: our text chain, that both you and Kenny actually thought, 663 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 5: sayied hermago Metov did enough to win the fight. You 664 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 5: went three units right, Esta goes on the table. So 665 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 5: that's a huge swing, right from plus three hundred to 666 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 5: minus six hundred, so a nine hundred dollars swing for you. 667 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 4: Your thoughts on that fight, Listen, I might have had 668 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 4: some green colored glasses. I was very upset initially Kenny 669 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 4: rewatched it and said, I think Sayid won. I still 670 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 4: think he won, but it was razor closed. That third 671 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 4: round was everything. I thought it was one one going 672 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 4: to the third. I thought SAYI won the third, but 673 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 4: no bones about it. So he'd faded a little bit. 674 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 4: Jonathan Martinez is the dog in there. He'd follow me 675 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 4: a lot of stuff, stuff that I did not think 676 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 4: he'd be able to defend. So that was a poor 677 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,959 Speaker 4: read on my part, putting three units on the table. 678 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 4: So I'm not going to BlimE the judges that one. 679 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 4: But I do think he won the fight. But you know, 680 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 4: you know it is what it is. You know, I'm 681 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 4: gonna have to dust myself off and win some fights here. 682 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,479 Speaker 5: Come on, if this podcast is still going strong in 683 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 5: ten twelve years, when I'm done, I can't wait to 684 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 5: have a team because if you remember, Petrie and I 685 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 5: are a team this year, and Cody and Kenny are 686 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 5: a team. So I'm taking the Patriot punishment however it falls. 687 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 5: But dude, I'd be doing like five Star Max plays 688 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 5: every week. It would be so reckless. I'd be like 689 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 5: five grand down in mid March. 690 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, real quickly. 691 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 5: I want to get Kenny's thoughts before I update the 692 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 5: standings on this inverted triangle by Davey Grant. Certainly, I 693 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 5: remember one of the first pro mma fights I ever called. 694 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 5: It was Toby Imada getting Jorge mosfeed All with that 695 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 5: inverted reverse triangle choke. But halfayel is Unsalve got as 696 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 5: high as number three in the world, Kenny. He won 697 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 5: seven in a row from two thousand and eleven to 698 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 5: twenty fourteen, right that included a win over TJ. Dillashaw 699 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 5: by split decision, set up a rematch with Dilashaw if 700 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 5: you recall it UFC two hundred and He lost that 701 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 5: fight and Sonso ends up closing out his career having 702 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 5: lost five of six. But even after the Dillashaw loss 703 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 5: won four more in a row, included a win over 704 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 5: al Jamain Sterling and a winover Rob font So wanted 705 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 5: to throw a little of Sunso appreciation out there, and 706 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 5: also get your thoughts on that inverted triangle, because you 707 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 5: certainly don't see that every day. 708 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 2: A Sunsau is a stud man, you know, called a 709 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 2: lot of his fights. Knew him and his brother from 710 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 2: way before when they weren't in the UFC just doing 711 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 2: jiu jitsu tournaments, and it was good to see a 712 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 2: Sunsaw have his retirement moment and all that stuff deserves 713 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 2: a ton of respect. If you're a UFC fighter, John, 714 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 2: You're looking for at the very least like a signature win, 715 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 2: and that next level up from that would be some 716 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 2: kind of highlight, right like that highlight knockout or submission. 717 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: That was Davy Grant's moment right there, because you look 718 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 2: at the whole sequence he went. He hurt a sunsw 719 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 2: so those rocked. You know, he shoots in for that 720 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 2: takedown and he goes right into one of the most 721 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 2: technical and unusual submissions in the game, gets that inverted triangle, 722 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 2: just a thing of beauty puts him out. Uh man. 723 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 2: I was loving that. And Davy Grant, Matt, He's again 724 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 2: one of these guys, one of the nicest dudes ever. 725 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 2: I've known him a long time as well. So to 726 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,959 Speaker 2: see him get that kind of signature win over, you know, 727 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 2: a legend really in a Sunsow was really brian. 728 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 5: It seemed like it came shortly after Davy Grant was 729 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 5: deducted a point for a fence grab and Eric Nixon 730 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 5: took issue with the fact that a Sunsow was not 731 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 5: regranted the position, right, if you're a sun Sow retroactively, 732 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 5: certainly rather rather the position than have that point deducted. 733 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 5: But I thought that was interesting as well. 734 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I mean, listen, Davy Grant, that's it was theatric. 735 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 4: You know, he's down on point, he might lose, He's 736 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 4: getting down a lot, you know, since I was winning 737 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 4: the fight essentially, and then he comes back and he 738 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 4: pulls that out. I mean, unbelievab could have happen to 739 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 4: a nicer guy, and in a in a stud I've 740 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 4: doubted him. I was like, because he missed a lot 741 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 4: of time with injuries and he came off the alternate fighter, 742 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 4: and I was like, this guy's still in the roster. 743 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 4: I was dead wrong because he's the only one that's 744 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,239 Speaker 4: given Adrianez an actual fight. I mean that was I mean, 745 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 4: some people thought he might have won, so kids nails. 746 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 4: I love it. 747 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 2: Well. 748 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 5: I let us update the standings. Kenny Florian's lead is 749 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 5: now thirteen hundred and fifteen dollars, so Team Florian was 750 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 5: minus five oh five teen, Petrie was minus ten to twenty. 751 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 5: We mentioned the three units staying on site. Nermago Medov 752 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 5: Kenny switch up after the way and he did not 753 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 5: like Alexander Romanov on the scale pivots to Volkov. Nicely done, 754 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 5: Ken Flow. I don't know that you've ever missed when 755 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 5: you've pivoted off of one guy to another, and then Kenny. 756 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 5: The big one was, of course, his hit on Rob 757 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 5: Dwallace Willie plus one eighty five. So Florian in the 758 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 5: black for the week plus one fifteen shaves his overall 759 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 5: nut down out to minus three to ninety Petrie minus 760 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 5: six eighty five on the week minus seventeen oh five. Overall, 761 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 5: we've had a lot of response from our listeners in 762 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 5: terms of how to make this more accurate in terms 763 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 5: of your year end number. I am not going to 764 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 5: allow you guys to pick totals over under four and 765 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 5: a half rounds on the main event. Not going to 766 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 5: do totals at least right now. Maybe I'll change my mind, 767 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 5: but in an effort to have a more real number 768 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 5: for you guys at the end of the year, here 769 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 5: too four you will be allowed to abstain from picking 770 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 5: one fight per week, so we still would like your analysis, 771 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 5: but you don't have to bet every fight, and with 772 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 5: that we will get in to UFC two to eighty six. 773 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,399 Speaker 5: I'll take a quick pick here, Joann Wood minus one 774 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 5: sixty five Luena Carolinas plus one forty. Now, this fight, 775 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 5: you guys were picking because it was going to be 776 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 5: the feature about on pay per view, at least on 777 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 5: a first draft of the fight card that I saw. 778 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 5: I guess I'll have to ask my man, Zach Candido 779 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 5: as to the changes. But now this is the third 780 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 5: fight of the night and not third from last, Brian 781 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 5: probably makes more sense and more appropriate slot just given 782 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 5: the stakes, both of these women coming off at least 783 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 5: one loss in a row. Which way you going here? 784 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 5: Joanne Wood Luana Carolina? 785 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 4: Yeah? I love Joe Wood. Joan Wood. You know she's 786 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 4: been around forever. Problem is is I just feel like 787 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 4: she doesn't want anymore. She seems just a little listless 788 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 4: in there. She doesn't seem like she wants in. Luna 789 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 4: Carolina coming off the horrible knockout over Molly mccamb but 790 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 4: the fight where it was competitive. My biggest problem with 791 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 4: Luna Carolina is her volume. She doesn't throw enough. I 792 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 4: think if she threw enough, she's got great kicks, great 793 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 4: hands long front of the vision. I think she'd be 794 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 4: really she would do really well take down the fences. 795 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 4: Has sure it up had been a problem in the past. 796 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 4: Don't see that being a problem against Joan Wood. Hate 797 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 4: picking against Joan Wood, but I gotta go with the 798 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 4: dog here in Luna Carolina. I think she's good a 799 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 4: decision her, maybe even finished her on the feet, but 800 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 4: I just think she's a little bit longer, all right. 801 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 5: Ppte likes Luana Carolina. Joanne Woods lost three in a 802 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 5: row can Flow, last of which came about a year 803 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 5: ago Petrie was in the building. Came against the now 804 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 5: champ Alexa Grosso. Carolina felt Molly McCann's power her last 805 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 5: time out, that was three hundred and sixty four days ago. 806 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 5: When she makes the walk Saturday at the O two, 807 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 5: You going, Carolina the dog or Jojo would the favorite 808 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 5: ken Flow? 809 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 2: You know, I think a lot of that's fair of 810 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 2: what Brian said. However, I do think Luana lacks a 811 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,240 Speaker 2: little bit of potency with her striking, Like there's nothing 812 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 2: where I could say, you know, she could go out 813 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 2: there and really, you know, juice up that fight to 814 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 2: the point where she where she can really take over. 815 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 2: I think this is a fight where Jojo can let 816 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 2: her skills shine a little bit more. You know, again, 817 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 2: a lot of it does depend on how badly she 818 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 2: wants this. I think that is accurate. But I think 819 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 2: Jojo can pull this off. 820 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 5: So give me, would gimme would Gotta think Ken Flow 821 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 5: that she's put in some serious work, having dropped her 822 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 5: last three. All right featured pre La Matt Featherweight, Jack 823 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 5: Sure minus four ninety Makwanamir Kani plus three ninety So 824 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 5: Sure a near five to one favorite. Brian and his 825 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 5: divisional debut. He is seven to zero in this weight 826 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,720 Speaker 5: class for the record, started as a pro one forty 827 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 5: five twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, then moved down, became the 828 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 5: Cage Warriors Bannaway champion. Then he loses for the first 829 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 5: time in the UFC to Ricky Simon, and now he's 830 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 5: moving on up to face Amir Kannie, who's about his 831 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 5: is UFC tested as it gets Brian Petrie, Jack Shore, 832 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 5: Makwanimir Kani. 833 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 2: Who do you like? 834 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 4: This is a tough one because I hate the line. 835 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 4: I mean Jack Shore, he's a great prospect. He showed 836 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,280 Speaker 4: what he lacked in Ricky Simone. Simone's a fucking beast 837 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 4: for the division. And Jack Shaw's got some tricky striking, 838 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 4: doesn't throw enough, his volumes never high. Good takedown or 839 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 4: good jiu jitsu takedowns, excuse me, or a little on 840 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 4: the average side. Thinking on Amir Kannie, who's flashy at times, 841 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 4: who gases at times, who looks good at times, He's 842 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 4: very unpredictable. It's hard to really pin this guy down. 843 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 4: And uh, you know the you know, mister Finland with 844 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 4: all the chicks. I mean, the guy could take the 845 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 4: break from the chicks. He had some good cardio, I'd imagine, 846 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 4: but you know, if you look at his topology, bidgets 847 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 4: is him with some chicks. But this is a tough fight, Listen. 848 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 4: I think Jack Shore is the better fighter here, but 849 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 4: at the price, I don't know. And we play a 850 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 4: game in this, you know, we play a game, and 851 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 4: it might be worth it to take Amer Khani here, 852 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 4: but I can't. I can't do it. I won't allow 853 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 4: myself to do it. I'm going to pick Jack Shore, 854 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 4: and this is one of the fights I'm gonna I'm 855 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,959 Speaker 4: gonna abstain from. I'm not gonna pick. I'm not gonna 856 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 4: pick this one just because the line's too crazy. I 857 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 4: can't predict Amir Kanie. I just can't do it. Even 858 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 4: though I think jack SSU was very good. I feel 859 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 4: like a big puss back for not doing it. If 860 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 4: we're restraining, but just I'm not gonna do it. I'm 861 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 4: not gonna do it. I can't do it. 862 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:39,760 Speaker 5: No, And that's why we have injected abstinence in this equation, 863 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 5: because we don't want you guys to be in a 864 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 5: position where you have to lay minus four ninety to 865 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 5: Jack Shore and to tell the audience that when you're 866 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 5: not recommending at all, that they lay a price like that. 867 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 5: Kenny fourteenth UFC start for mister Finland, Makwanamir kana He's 868 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 5: seven and six, but five of those losses just hear 869 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,720 Speaker 5: me out, JSP Jonathan Pierce, who I think is future 870 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 5: Top five, the undefeated Laron Murphy who fights this weekend, 871 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,280 Speaker 5: the nineteen and one, Arnold Allen, Anson, Barboza, and Shane Bergo. 872 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 5: So it's not as though his record is littered with 873 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 5: bad losses. For the most part of mere Kannie has 874 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 5: beaten the guys. He's supposed to beat Vegas says he's 875 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 5: not supposed to beat Jack Shore. 876 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,760 Speaker 2: What do you think this is? Why BP is so smack. 877 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 2: I think that Amir Kanie is very dangerous. He's got 878 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,439 Speaker 2: knockout power, He's got that wrestling background. I do think 879 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 2: Jack Shore overall is the more technical fighter. I think 880 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 2: he wins this fight by decision, maybe by submission. And 881 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 2: we've seen Amir Kannie susceptible to losing position in the past, 882 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 2: So I'm going with Jack Shore on this one as well. 883 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 2: And I'm with you BP. It's not worth the bend though. 884 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 2: The line is just way too heavy for Jack Shore 885 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 2: almost five to one. 886 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 5: Can't do it not We'll see And again, you guys 887 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 5: reserve the right as long as you tag the podcast 888 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 5: so Cody can repurpose that you do. Reserve the right 889 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 5: to change your pick. 890 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 4: All right. 891 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 5: Pay per view main card opener in the middleweight division 892 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 5: Marvin Vatory minus two sixty five, Roman de Leeds a 893 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 5: plus two twenty five Delidsay six and one of the 894 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 5: UFC coming off the stoppage of Jack Romanson last December. 895 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 2: Bry. 896 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 5: I guess if anybody can knock out the hot headed 897 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 5: Marvin Vattori. Maybe it's this fucking guy. What do you 898 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 5: think of these two eighty five vers? 899 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 4: Love this fight. This fight's got some juice to me. 900 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 4: You know, Marvin Tory blockhead for a reason. You know, 901 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 4: the guy is a little delusional at times with his 902 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 4: own skills. But he left California's in Vegas now he's 903 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,280 Speaker 4: training with the crop at eighty five. Chris curtishan Strickland 904 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 4: de Leedsday was a part of that camp. Not sure 905 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 4: if he did this camp in Georgia. A lot of 906 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,320 Speaker 4: moving parts going on here. But Fedori looks to be 907 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 4: in great ship. His problem is he's and it's not 908 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 4: even a problem. He's just good, right, but he's not 909 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 4: great anywhere. He can take you now. And he's a big, 910 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 4: strong guy. But only got one submission in the UFC 911 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 4: do with his name, I believe, maybe one other one, 912 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 4: but Carl Robas was the last one. He did. Pillow hands, 913 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 4: doesn't really knock, gonna be out, has good boxing, dropped 914 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 4: Jack Romanson, but you know he can. He has a 915 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 4: guy's got good card. You can't put him out then 916 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 4: you got delite. He's just a fucking. 917 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 2: Wild man, right. 918 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 4: Strikes aren't the most prettiest out there. 919 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 2: Right. 920 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 4: He throws heavy hands, can knock you out from different 921 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 4: and weird angles, and his ground game's really good. I mean, 922 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 4: what he did to Jack Ramanson on the ground last 923 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 4: time out was so impressive because Romanson is a stuter 924 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 4: on the ground, no chump that. I'm like, whoa this? 925 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 4: And that was off his back that he did that, 926 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 4: you know, a couple of sweeps that he hit, and 927 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 4: it was very impressive. Man. Yeah, I mean, I love 928 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,800 Speaker 4: this fight so much and listen, but Torri could go 929 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 4: three rounds, peace up, Dalite, win a decision, you know, 930 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 4: do his yell at the end and call for a 931 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 4: title shot or whatever he does. But that's boring, right, 932 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 4: Let's not be boring. Let's go dog here, Let's go Dalite. 933 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 4: I don't think he can finish him, because I do 934 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 4: trust Martin Torrey's durability, but it'd be something else if 935 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,399 Speaker 4: he could get this guy out of there. But give 936 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,399 Speaker 4: me dealitze here. I just think he's he's got something 937 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:52,800 Speaker 4: to him. I mean, I know, if you guys remember 938 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 4: his fight with John Allen, he looks at the corner 939 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 4: and goes, hey, let me drop for a heel hook 940 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 4: drop for Heroick doesn't get it right, doesn't get in 941 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 4: the cockiness of this guy to be like, hey, you 942 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 4: want to meet him with my move and not even 943 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,879 Speaker 4: finish yet. I love the guy. I love him going 944 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 4: to Leeds's a hot hand could be unfeeded that Trevin 945 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 4: Jihns fight with a little suspect in my opinion, So yeah, 946 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 4: give me the leads man. 947 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 5: And I have said, there's no fighter that intimidates me 948 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 5: more in a fighter meeting setting than Roman Deleds. I 949 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 5: was so happy to see that he's not on our 950 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 5: list actually for London this week. So Kenny, Marvin Vatori 951 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 5: is still twenty nine years old. Despite all of the 952 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 5: MMA accomplishments, Roman Dealeds is thirty four and just one 953 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 5: number for you. Since twenty sixteen, seven years, only two 954 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 5: men have beaten Marvin Vttori. Is there a lot of 955 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 5: Signi and Robert Whitaker and neither man could put him 956 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 5: away spanning those fifty five minutes. So certainly the fights 957 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 5: that he has had to win Paolo Costa and others, 958 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,280 Speaker 5: he has won favor to win again here against Deleds. 959 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 5: How do you see a plan out? 960 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 2: Well, Victory's very consistent you know exactly what he brings 961 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 2: to the table, you know exactly what he's going to do, 962 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 2: and he can be very difficult to stop him from 963 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 2: doing that. I think that, uh, yeah, you know, he's 964 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 2: the favorite here, no question about it. But if you 965 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 2: beat Vittori, I think you kind of have to beat 966 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 2: him by submission or by knockout, and I think Dalitze 967 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 2: absolutely has the ability to do that. I think Vittori 968 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 2: is underrated as a grappler a bit, but I do 969 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 2: think that d'alitze is much better with this submission game, 970 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 2: and I think he could catch I think he can 971 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,800 Speaker 2: catch victory with something, whether it's a leg attack or 972 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 2: maybe take the back. He does a lot of unusual 973 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,919 Speaker 2: and unorthodox moves on the ground and that can throw 974 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 2: off a style like Buttori, who's very straightforward, needs that 975 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 2: kind of rice and beans style of a fight for him. 976 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 2: And if it goes that way, then Vittori wins this fight. 977 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 2: But I think there's enough value on Dalite at what 978 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 2: is it plus two twenty five right to go his way. 979 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 2: I think that I think he can catch him in 980 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 2: a submission, some kind of crazy trans or maybe even 981 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,879 Speaker 2: catching with one of those wild strikes because Vittri gets 982 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 2: a very emotional end there sometimes, so I think it's 983 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 2: worth it. De Let's say is he's an interesting and 984 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 2: interesting cat who I think could surprise a lot of people. 985 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 5: I think the matchmakers are expecting fireworks. Yeah, putting him 986 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,359 Speaker 5: in that slot to kick off the pay per view. 987 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 5: We'll see if Roman Deliedze can oblige against my good 988 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 5: friend Marvin Vittori. All right, huge fight of flyway for 989 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 5: the women, especially given the new champ now atop the division. 990 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 5: You got twelfth rank Casey O'Neill minus one eighty number 991 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 5: eight Jennifer Mayah plus one fifty five. Can you imagine 992 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,359 Speaker 5: how pissed Casey O'Neil would have been if Jojo Wood 993 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 5: was on this pay per view. I know their teammates, 994 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 5: but you know this is the fight that deserves to 995 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 5: be on pay per view. These are the two women 996 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 5: within the top twelve. O'Neil is coming off a major 997 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 5: knee surgery, but she is nine to zero. Last win 998 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 5: came February twenty twenty two against roxand Mada Ferry. Twenty 999 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 5: professional mixed martial arts wins for Jennifer Maya. She's five 1000 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 5: and five in the UFC, though bought for the belt 1001 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 5: back in twenty twenties. You know, Brian Petrie, Yes, you 1002 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 5: go on Maya her own neal kid. 1003 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 4: This is a tough one because I like case o neil. 1004 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 4: I've been on Casey O'Neil side since she's debut in 1005 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 4: the UFC. She's easy on the eyes, let's just put 1006 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 4: it that way for your boy. And she's a great fighter. 1007 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 4: More importantly, she's a great fighter. I like watching her fight, 1008 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 4: but coming off a knee surgery like that scares me. Right, 1009 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 4: she hasn't really fought a lee competition yet. She had 1010 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,319 Speaker 4: a split decision went over Roxy MANAFII, which I mean, 1011 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 4: that's fine. You know, I thought I thought you won, 1012 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 4: but it got close towards the end there. I like 1013 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 4: all her skills, but Jennifer Maya, I that one round 1014 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 4: she put against Valentina stuck in my brain, Like she 1015 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 4: had a really good round against Valentina, and I'm like, 1016 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 4: can this? Can she do this for five rounds? You couldn't. 1017 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 4: But I'm like, if she could really put something together, 1018 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 4: she's she's she's good. Strike counts low, takedowns are low. 1019 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,479 Speaker 4: But when you're giving me a plus number against someone 1020 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 4: coming off a really bad knee injury like that. We've 1021 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 4: seen it before, guys, are you know fighters are a 1022 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 4: little unsteady coming back and it's only been a year. 1023 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if she's rushing or not, 1024 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 4: like hopefully not, but hasn't been that long of a 1025 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,840 Speaker 4: time and this is our biggest fight to date in 1026 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,839 Speaker 4: my opinion, name wise. So I'm gonna go, dog, I'm 1027 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 4: gonna go Jennifer Maya here. I hate picking against Casey o'neils. 1028 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,399 Speaker 4: I think she's I think she's really good, she's tough, 1029 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 4: she's she's got a little attitude on her. She's nasty 1030 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 4: in there, which I love. But I'm gonna go. I'm 1031 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:16,919 Speaker 4: gonna go Jennifer Maya. 1032 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, Kenny, Casey O'Neil maybe not getting the shine she 1033 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,479 Speaker 5: deserved over the last several weeks in these longer form 1034 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 5: flyweight conversations about Aaron Blansfield and Alexa Grosso certainly has 1035 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,320 Speaker 5: that chip on her shoulder. Does feel like a pretty 1036 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,800 Speaker 5: quick turn after a major reconstructive knee surgery. That said O'Neil, 1037 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,320 Speaker 5: about a two to one favorite here this weekend. 1038 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 2: Your thoughts, Yeah, that's the big question mark, right with 1039 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 2: O'Neill and that knee surgery. It can take or I 1040 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 2: think it does take like two years, two years and 1041 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:51,359 Speaker 2: a half if you have a cadaver, you know, installed 1042 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 2: into your knee for it to be like actually one 1043 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,319 Speaker 2: hundred percent, So that definitely takes time. However, I think 1044 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 2: O'Neil is nasty enough to get through this. This is 1045 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 2: one of those where I may reserve the right to 1046 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 2: change my pick when I see the weigh ins and 1047 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 2: some other stuff. But I like Casey O'Neil here, and 1048 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 2: you know, Brian has a big time point here. With 1049 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 2: Jennifer Maya, who has you know, faced much tougher competition, 1050 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,359 Speaker 2: I think she has a good set of skills as 1051 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,360 Speaker 2: well to pose some problems here for O'Neil. But I 1052 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 2: think if O'Neil can utilize that high pressure style and 1053 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:33,760 Speaker 2: back Maya up, sometimes Maya will shut down her offense 1054 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 2: as well a little bit. So I think that's going 1055 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,360 Speaker 2: to be the case. Let's go with Casey O'Neil. 1056 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 5: All right, some dissension on the two women's fights today, 1057 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 5: You love to see it. That brings us to a 1058 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 5: featured about one hundred and seventy pounds. Gooder Nelson minus 1059 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 5: three point eighty Brian Barberina is plus three ten. Seventeenth 1060 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 5: YOUFC appearance for Barberina. He had a huge twenty twenty two. 1061 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 5: He beat Robbie Lawler, beat Matt Brown, did lose to 1062 00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 5: Halfayel Dosanjos in December. Kenny, I'm gonn lead with you 1063 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 5: on this one. Gooder Nelson's still a little bit enigmatic 1064 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 5: for me, just as far as like, I don't know 1065 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 5: where his ceiling is because there have been all these 1066 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,280 Speaker 5: injuries and bouts of inactivity. Eleven years on the roster, 1067 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 5: fourteen UFC fights, hasn't lost since twenty nineteen to Gilberturino Burns, 1068 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,759 Speaker 5: but he's only fought one since twenty nineteen. He beat 1069 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 5: Takashi Sado, a guy he was prohibitively favored to beat. 1070 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,759 Speaker 5: But he's been around. I mean, he made his UFC 1071 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 5: debut and who's twenty four years of age. So Goodar 1072 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 5: Nelson again with a bloated number next to his name, 1073 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,320 Speaker 5: minus three eighty against Brian Barbarine. 1074 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 2: I like gooney here. Yeah, I think I think Gunnar's 1075 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 2: got that style right, similar to an RDA that's going 1076 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 2: to post problems for a guy like Brian Barberina. And 1077 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,319 Speaker 2: I know that Barberina said he's been, you know, kind 1078 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 2: of going camp to camp. He's been training more consistently now, 1079 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,360 Speaker 2: and that is one of the toughest dudes I have 1080 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,600 Speaker 2: ever seen compete inside the UFC. I mean, his chin, 1081 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:03,840 Speaker 2: his durability, his heart. He's an absolute stud, an absolute beast. 1082 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 2: And if Gunner decides to trade in the pocket, even 1083 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,239 Speaker 2: for just a couple exchanges against Barberina, that would be 1084 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,439 Speaker 2: the worst mistake he could make because Barbarina is gonna 1085 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 2: take over that fight and could potentially knock him out 1086 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 2: after that. But I think Gunner is gonna, you know, 1087 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 2: have that wide karate stance, stay on the outside, pick 1088 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,879 Speaker 2: his shots. But all of that really is to get 1089 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 2: the takedown and put Barberina on his back. That that's 1090 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,240 Speaker 2: what he wants, and I think that's what he's ultimately 1091 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 2: going to do there. I'm gonna go with Gunner Nelson here. 1092 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna put I'm gonna put an extra unit on 1093 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 2: Gunner as well. I just I like I like his 1094 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 2: style here. Maybe a little bit of a gamble because 1095 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 2: Barbarina is very dangerous and he's hard to put away 1096 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 2: at times, but I like Gunny. 1097 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,759 Speaker 5: Here see what it does to me and Petrie when 1098 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 5: Ken Flow goes to Unit's like, we don't have known 1099 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,160 Speaker 5: what to do with ourselves. Kenny will also, by the way, 1100 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,720 Speaker 5: lead us on the main event coming up here three minutes. 1101 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,920 Speaker 5: Brian Patrick, Gunnar Nelson, Brian Barbarina, who he likes. 1102 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,880 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what it, Ken Flow, just open up 1103 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 4: some bucks. He would move so this guy would pay 1104 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,160 Speaker 4: off his house. Listen. I was I was gonna lock 1105 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,320 Speaker 4: him up myself, like I love this fight for Gunny. 1106 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,879 Speaker 4: We saw the blueprint with biber on Riena against RDA, 1107 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 4: which I, Kenny and I both predicted right. R Day 1108 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 4: is gonna take him out. And people sleep on RDA's 1109 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,839 Speaker 4: jiu jitsu and gon To nelson ju jitsu is great, 1110 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 4: especially when he's on top. He flows so well. He's 1111 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 4: a little undersized one seventy, but he's so dominant on top. 1112 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 4: This guy had a ground fight with Dami and Mayat lost, 1113 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,360 Speaker 4: but didn't get his neck taken, didn't get his arm 1114 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,759 Speaker 4: taken like this guy's special. I remember being a door 1115 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 4: way back when he was twenty one, twenty two years 1116 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 4: old Hammon on the underground before he made his UFC debut, 1117 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 4: Like Gunny Nelson is the next big thing or whatever 1118 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 4: this guy is. And in John's right, did a lot 1119 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 4: of inconsistency and stuff like that. But I think this 1120 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 4: is this number is obviously high. I know we're partner 1121 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,920 Speaker 4: with DraftKings. I would love to see DraftKings set a 1122 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,160 Speaker 4: line for like over three takedowns for Gunny. So I 1123 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 4: think he can get over three takedowns, maybe even a 1124 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 4: Gunny Special prop bet by sub so. I think he's 1125 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,400 Speaker 4: taken a sub here. I'm with Kenny here. I'm not 1126 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 4: going to double lock him like Kenny. I'm gonna let 1127 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,440 Speaker 4: Kenny have his moment here. I love when he fucking 1128 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 4: knots on the table there. I'm not going to steal 1129 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 4: that shine here. But I'm on Gunny as well. 1130 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 5: And we can affect change as far as the Draftking 1131 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 5: sports Book is concerned. Right as Cody says in our 1132 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:18,560 Speaker 5: chat room, we can make that happen. I got a 1133 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,879 Speaker 5: direct line at Johnny Avello, the director of the race 1134 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,439 Speaker 5: and sportsbook for DraftKings Sportsbook. So you want a number 1135 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 5: on the board, Brian Petrie, we can make that happen. 1136 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,520 Speaker 5: Let us get to the co main event, probably the 1137 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,800 Speaker 5: fight I was most curious to hear your predictions on today. 1138 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 5: This is a title eliminator in the lightweight division. Raphael 1139 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:40,040 Speaker 5: Fhazib minus two thirty Justin Geichie plus one ninety five. 1140 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,279 Speaker 5: Sofazibe born in Kazakhstan, fights out of Ozer Baijan by 1141 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 5: way of Thailand. He's won six in a row since 1142 00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,440 Speaker 5: dropping his UFC debut. Geichie, of course your former interim champion. 1143 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 5: I'm not sure I've ever seen plus one ninety five 1144 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:53,880 Speaker 5: next to his name, probably for the Kabib fight it 1145 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 5: was even bigger. But uh, Justin Gaichie returning for the 1146 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,160 Speaker 5: first time since the Charles Olivera fight May seven at 1147 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 5: the last year, does he have enough for Rafael Fhaseia, 1148 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,919 Speaker 5: Brian Patrick or Mike is Hot. This fight was kind 1149 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,439 Speaker 5: of easy for me to break down and pick which 1150 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 5: scares me? You know what I mean, Johnny your hande 1151 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 5: gear like, oh, I'm seeing this so right, and You're like, 1152 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 5: wait a second, should I face myself here? That's how 1153 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,319 Speaker 5: I feel like, because I think, excuse me. 1154 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 4: Say his name more time so I don't fuck it 1155 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,320 Speaker 4: up physic physie. I think Faziv is the best striker 1156 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 4: at one fifty five hands down. I think he is clean. 1157 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 4: I think he is technical volume, a little low cardio 1158 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 4: question marked a little bit anytime. He throwed over one 1159 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,360 Speaker 4: hundred punches with the Bobby Green fight, and he faded 1160 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,719 Speaker 4: bad in that fight. Right justin Gage, he throws a 1161 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 4: hundred punches without breaking a sweat. That guy is just 1162 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 4: all action all the time. But he's looked so kind 1163 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 4: of off to me. Right. He gets hurt in every 1164 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 4: fight nowadays. Chandler had him hurt this last time. He 1165 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 4: won all there, slept him, dropped him three times with 1166 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 4: just clean technique. Althoy're obviously one of the best in 1167 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 4: the world, but Phazive is just clean with everything. His 1168 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 4: Brave Redell fight was very impressive with me because they 1169 00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 4: were training partners. I think Braverdell used to coach him 1170 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,200 Speaker 4: or something like that. There's some kind of real relationship there, 1171 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,879 Speaker 4: and it was a close fight, competitive fight where Dell 1172 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,240 Speaker 4: was wrestling a little bit, but Fazige just just knocked 1173 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,719 Speaker 4: him out, took him out and made it look effortlessly. 1174 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 4: This guy's takedown offense is unbelievable ninety two percent. Justin 1175 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:15,759 Speaker 4: Gaategche does have a takedown in the UFC, so I 1176 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 4: don't think that's gonna be a problem. But he does 1177 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:21,160 Speaker 4: have wrestling. I'm seeing Phazivee here, Phazige by knockout all 1178 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 4: day long. That's that's what I'm seeing. I just think 1179 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,840 Speaker 4: he's a little too clean. I think Gatege's going to 1180 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,160 Speaker 4: make it ugly. And I'm a Geechee guy. I love 1181 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 4: Justin Gaigie. I just what I've seen. If he gets 1182 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 4: in there with like really clean technique, he dips his 1183 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 4: head too much, he throws a little wild. He likes 1184 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,480 Speaker 4: the inside clinches, and that's where phaziv Is work some 1185 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,800 Speaker 4: of his best work. Those elbows and that knockout of 1186 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 4: Amconno would mean forget about it. This guy's a real problem, 1187 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,239 Speaker 4: and I think this is a coming out party for him. 1188 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,560 Speaker 5: So give me Phyzive's And to underscore the extent to 1189 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,200 Speaker 5: which Raphael Phazivee is a problem, Justin Geige is a 1190 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,479 Speaker 5: bigger underdog against this dude than he was against Charles 1191 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,400 Speaker 5: OLIVERA right, and that number has not been bet to 1192 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,719 Speaker 5: a point where that is no longer the case. We 1193 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,360 Speaker 5: did ask a pole question for today's Anakin Florian podcast 1194 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,840 Speaker 5: of the four fighters atop the marquee, in whom are 1195 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,400 Speaker 5: you most confident to get the win? Forty percent of 1196 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:14,240 Speaker 5: responding say Kamar Usman. Twenty six percent said Rafael Fhaziv, Kenny, 1197 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 5: your thoughts on Phayziv minus two thirty against Justin Gaigie 1198 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 5: and the comin event. 1199 00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 2: Well, Brian's right, Let's let's look at it, right Fhaziv, 1200 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 2: He's he's younger, he's he's fresher, he's got the better chin. 1201 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 2: I think he's got more tools on defeet overall. And 1202 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,640 Speaker 2: that's exactly why I'm going with Justin Gaigie. I'm going 1203 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 2: with here. This is what, this is why. Here's the 1204 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,759 Speaker 2: only thing, okay, is that I don't care who you are, 1205 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:48,400 Speaker 2: what you've done. Justin Gaegee has the ability to hold 1206 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,360 Speaker 2: your hand and walk through the garden of punishment with you. 1207 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,120 Speaker 2: Sometimes you get out alive, but many times it's you 1208 00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,200 Speaker 2: that is buried in that garden. And I think Kage's 1209 00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:02,239 Speaker 2: gonna find a way to drag physive into a world 1210 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,680 Speaker 2: where he's never been before. He comes from a Muay 1211 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 2: Thai background, and in moy Thai it's kind of this 1212 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 2: like pacing, and it's this dance and it slowly picks up, 1213 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,360 Speaker 2: and you know, you can kind of coast even it 1214 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,319 Speaker 2: gets very good moy Thai fighters, and you can kind 1215 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 2: of chill. And then the fourth and fifth rounds things 1216 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 2: start to pick up. There's more clinching. Gay Chief gets 1217 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 2: right to the point and and we're gonna find out. 1218 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 2: And we haven't seen Physive in that kind of pressure environment, 1219 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,919 Speaker 2: high pressure environment where he's exhausted and he's gotta find 1220 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,720 Speaker 2: a way to win. And I can't get that Bobby 1221 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 2: Green fight out of my head. That's the problem. If 1222 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,120 Speaker 2: we're straight if we're going straight up and these guys 1223 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,080 Speaker 2: are even odds or Physive is up by a little bit, 1224 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:53,320 Speaker 2: and Gaichee's close, a close underdog, I'm going Physive, but 1225 00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,920 Speaker 2: plus one ninety five for Gaichee on a guy who 1226 00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,440 Speaker 2: you know in physife, who does stay in the pocket 1227 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 2: and does he had hit at times you stay in 1228 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 2: there and you take a hook or two. We're a 1229 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,360 Speaker 2: right hand from justin Gaichee. He puts you to sleep. 1230 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:07,719 Speaker 2: Gimme Gaichee here. 1231 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:08,480 Speaker 6: I like it. 1232 00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,600 Speaker 2: And Gaichee always surprises us when we least expect it. 1233 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 2: Give me Justin Gaigee for some extra dog fire. 1234 00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,120 Speaker 5: I mean, we could play that for Justin Geichee actually 1235 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:22,319 Speaker 5: and see it compels into victory. All right, Ken Flo, 1236 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,480 Speaker 5: keep that energy up. We're going right back to you here. 1237 00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 5: Kamar Usman minus two forty Leon Edwards plus two hundred. 1238 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,919 Speaker 5: Kamar Usman was fifteen and zher to start his UFC career. 1239 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,719 Speaker 5: He was making his sixth welterweight title defense when these 1240 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,000 Speaker 5: two met for that second time at UFC two seventy 1241 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 5: eight last August. He was moments away from breaking that 1242 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,440 Speaker 5: Anderson silver record and everything else, and we all know 1243 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:48,279 Speaker 5: what happened thereafter. Now Edward's the champion, making the first 1244 00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,439 Speaker 5: defense of his title here at the two, about three 1245 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:54,800 Speaker 5: hours from Birmingham, England. Kamar Usman, Leon Edwards, who wins it? 1246 00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 2: This is a tougher fight for me to pick in 1247 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:03,640 Speaker 2: a lot of ways than physiv. Uzman has a style 1248 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,720 Speaker 2: that will always give a guy like Leon Edwards trouble. 1249 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,480 Speaker 2: I think that if there's one guy who can come 1250 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,759 Speaker 2: back from a devastating knockout in round five, it is 1251 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,640 Speaker 2: kamara Uzman. I don't think he's going to have all 1252 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,960 Speaker 2: those doubts that I think a lot of other fighters 1253 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,320 Speaker 2: would have, or that hesitancy that I think a lot 1254 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:26,080 Speaker 2: of other fighters have. Usman is a champion for a reason. 1255 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:30,280 Speaker 2: He has that champion mindset. Whether he wins or loses, 1256 00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 2: He's always going to have that mindset and he will 1257 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,760 Speaker 2: always have my respect as one of the greatest wealth 1258 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:38,560 Speaker 2: weights to ever do it. I think his wrestling is 1259 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,520 Speaker 2: a big time problem. His ability to grind and win 1260 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,680 Speaker 2: rounds is a problem. He has a very educated jab, 1261 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,800 Speaker 2: but you know, he doesn't have that potency of a 1262 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 2: submission game or I don't think not to get someone 1263 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,000 Speaker 2: like Edwards where he's got a striking game, that is 1264 00:57:56,080 --> 00:58:00,440 Speaker 2: going to be that difficult for Edwards to figure. I 1265 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:04,800 Speaker 2: think Edwards is a extremely technical fighter in all assets 1266 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:09,480 Speaker 2: and all aspects he I think he is a very 1267 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:13,080 Speaker 2: slick striker who can get Uzman to throw and miss 1268 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 2: and counter. I think Edwards is going to have a 1269 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 2: renewed sense of confidence coming off of this win over 1270 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,840 Speaker 2: kamara Uzman. I think that he had a great start 1271 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,640 Speaker 2: to that fight against kamara Uzman, and I think you 1272 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,560 Speaker 2: know it being at high altitude. I think it favors 1273 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,640 Speaker 2: I think it favors Leon Edwards. The fact that it's 1274 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 2: not at high altitude anymore because Kamara Usman again, correct 1275 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,800 Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong. He was, you know, training at 1276 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 2: high altitude in Denver, also in Utah as well for 1277 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 2: you know a bit. So I think that I don't 1278 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,280 Speaker 2: know Edwards had you know, a lot of disadvantages heading 1279 00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,360 Speaker 2: into that fight, the travel, He's got his hometown there. 1280 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,760 Speaker 2: I think his preparation has been on point for this one. 1281 00:58:56,280 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 2: And I am going with Leon Edwards to win this fight. Again, 1282 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,520 Speaker 2: It's not an easy pick for me. I would not 1283 00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,040 Speaker 2: be surprised to see Kamara win this one, but I 1284 00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,400 Speaker 2: think we have a different guy after this fight, and 1285 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:14,040 Speaker 2: Leon Edwards, I think he's got he's got a certain something. 1286 00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,440 Speaker 2: Let's put it this way, winning in that fashion the 1287 00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,640 Speaker 2: way that he did and it being in the UK. 1288 00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:26,160 Speaker 2: I like Leon here very interesting. Brian Petrie, you will 1289 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,479 Speaker 2: have the final word Kamara Usman minus two forty, Leon 1290 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,920 Speaker 2: Edwards plus two hundred right now in DraftKings sportsbook. Who 1291 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:33,520 Speaker 2: wins the Welts Away Championship of the World. 1292 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,880 Speaker 4: So it's hard enough falling Kenny let alone. Gaigee and 1293 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,920 Speaker 4: then now he's picking Leon Edwards. I'm sitting here going on, 1294 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:41,440 Speaker 4: it's an easy fight for you to pick. He goes, Yeah, 1295 00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 4: I'm picking the underdog. Gaigee, take a big old dump 1296 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:44,640 Speaker 4: on BP here. 1297 00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:45,080 Speaker 2: I love it. 1298 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:49,120 Speaker 4: If icking love it, listen. I'm a Kamara Usman guy. 1299 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:50,440 Speaker 4: I have been since day one. 1300 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:51,240 Speaker 2: I love the guy. 1301 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,439 Speaker 4: I don't know why he gets so much shit. People 1302 00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,880 Speaker 4: say he's corny. I kind of know. He talks like 1303 00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,479 Speaker 4: an R and B guy. Sometimes he's got a little 1304 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,200 Speaker 4: usher thing going on and Pep were like out of 1305 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,680 Speaker 4: the corny. I love his mindset, his mental his skill. Well, 1306 01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,200 Speaker 4: I judge what I see in the cage, and he's 1307 01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:06,600 Speaker 4: got he's got swagger for day. I mean, the guy 1308 01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:08,200 Speaker 4: knows how to put an outfit together. Let's just put 1309 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,000 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, no doubt. But the first 1310 01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,480 Speaker 4: the first fight obviously was was they both were young 1311 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,880 Speaker 4: in the career. Wrestling happened. Second fight, Leon got that takedown, 1312 01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,400 Speaker 4: got mount won the first round. Very interesting there. Leon 1313 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,200 Speaker 4: had relied after the Kamara fight, had relied on wrestling 1314 01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:23,520 Speaker 4: a lot of his fights. You know, we saw a 1315 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,520 Speaker 4: lot more grappling out of him, and then you know, 1316 01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,440 Speaker 4: two through four, Usman shut him down, and then Cardio 1317 01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,320 Speaker 4: obviously is king. No one faded like even though uz 1318 01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 4: Or Edwards was dejected because I felt like he felt 1319 01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,920 Speaker 4: flat that night, his Cardio was still there. I mean, 1320 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:39,720 Speaker 4: if you were dead, Carter, you're not throwing that high 1321 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 4: kicked away through it, right, And this is interesting. I've 1322 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,360 Speaker 4: always backed Usman. I've always won money on Usman, right. 1323 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:45,920 Speaker 2: I have. 1324 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:47,680 Speaker 4: I just I bet every single one of his fights 1325 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 4: blindly take Kuzma. I like the guy. This has thrown 1326 01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,200 Speaker 4: up some trepidation for me. This is a big pause 1327 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,960 Speaker 4: for me because Leon Edwards is a lot better than 1328 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:56,560 Speaker 4: I gave him credit for the first fight, the first 1329 01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,880 Speaker 4: fight in my own personal life. Max bet Usman and 1330 01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,360 Speaker 4: you know that fifth round knockout. The only thing that 1331 01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,320 Speaker 4: saved it was John to me, yeah, I lost a 1332 01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 4: couple hundred bucks, but John's beautiful call, which is one 1333 01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,920 Speaker 4: of the best calls ever saved it for me because 1334 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,760 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, this is special. And then obviously Leon's 1335 01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:17,880 Speaker 4: post fight headshot Bang Dad is amazing. Listen, Kenny broke 1336 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,120 Speaker 4: it down perfectly. Technically, I can't do that. I can't 1337 01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:22,440 Speaker 4: do it. Ken flow does I'm just going to go 1338 01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 4: with my gut, and my gut says this could be 1339 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,160 Speaker 4: a lot closer a fight. But I think when you 1340 01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,600 Speaker 4: get a close fight like that, I'm gonna lean on wrestling, 1341 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,080 Speaker 4: and I'm an lean on the guy who's proven that 1342 01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,520 Speaker 4: he can go five rounds throwing over one hundred strikes. 1343 01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 4: He threw eighty three in the first Leon fight. I 1344 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,800 Speaker 4: think he needs to double that up. He looked really 1345 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,800 Speaker 4: good in the clinches. That's where he did his best work, bodywork, 1346 01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:46,080 Speaker 4: elbows when Leon was against the cage, and Leon's gonna 1347 01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:47,800 Speaker 4: come out like a bat out of hell in front 1348 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,040 Speaker 4: of his hometown crowd. But I love the way Usman's 1349 01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,720 Speaker 4: carrying himself. I love the mental I love everything he's saying. 1350 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,960 Speaker 4: He handled that loss better than anybody I know. You 1351 01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,640 Speaker 4: know what I mean? Or Mmm, such class and I'm 1352 01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,600 Speaker 4: gonna go with Uzman. But I'm excited. The line's a 1353 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,400 Speaker 4: little wide. I thought we were gonna get a way 1354 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,160 Speaker 4: better number, for sure, So I am a little unsure 1355 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,480 Speaker 4: about the line, but I'm gonna take Guzman all right. 1356 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,120 Speaker 5: Good job, fellas. I can't wait to get over there. 1357 01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,320 Speaker 5: Last time I called a fight on uk soil was 1358 01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,720 Speaker 5: October twenty six, twenty thirteen, so it's been almost ten years. 1359 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,920 Speaker 5: We're very excited. We got to get on out of here. 1360 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,040 Speaker 5: But don't forget. Another episode of the Ana Complorent podcast 1361 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,760 Speaker 5: comes your way on Monday, God Will and we'll recap 1362 01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,480 Speaker 5: UFC two eighty six and these two guys will be back, 1363 01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,640 Speaker 5: of course to look at the massive main event coming 1364 01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:33,480 Speaker 5: up in San Antonio, Texas, Marlon Cheeto Vera and Corey Sandhagan. 1365 01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,080 Speaker 5: We'll get the picks from the fellas probably as early 1366 01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,360 Speaker 5: as next Monday. Thanks to Brian Petri on the ones 1367 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,800 Speaker 5: and twos. Also to Shaun she and our producers Cody Merrow. 1368 01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,640 Speaker 5: Production assistant is Will Berger for VP for Ken Fulham, 1369 01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:45,280 Speaker 5: John Annix and so long for now. We will see 1370 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,240 Speaker 5: you live on pay per view for UFC two eighty 1371 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:47,920 Speaker 5: six this weekend. 1372 01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:48,280 Speaker 2: You'll let