Speaker 1: Fractors are Alpine Patrick drawing textole what a win for
Speaker 1: this Miami Dolphin teams? Wow, What is up? Dolphins? And
Speaker 1: welcome to the Drive Time Podcast, part of the Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphins official podcast network, covering your Miami Dolphins each and
Speaker 1: every day. How's it going everybody? I am your host,
Speaker 1: Travis Wingfield, and I am here to bring you your
Speaker 1: daily dose of Miami Dolphins football. And on today's show,
Speaker 1: a special edition of the Drive Time Pod as we
Speaker 1: welcome in two heavy hitters of the podcast game, two
Speaker 1: men that have been part of the Miami Dolphins organization
Speaker 1: for a long long time, the hosts of the fish
Speaker 1: Tank Podcast with Seth Levitt and O. J. Juice McDuffie.
Speaker 1: We are previewing their conversation with Dolphins great running back
Speaker 1: Ricky Williams. That episode drops tomorrow, So subscribe to the
Speaker 1: fish Tank Podcast on Apple Podcast, Spotify, Google Play, wherever
Speaker 1: you get your podcast from. Go check out the fish
Speaker 1: Tank for the Ricky Williams episode and the rest of
Speaker 1: their catalog on the fish Tank Podcast. We'll talk to
Speaker 1: them here on this Monday May the eighteenth edition of
Speaker 1: the Drivetime Podcast Dolphins. My two guests today are Seth
Speaker 1: Levitt and o J. McDuffie of the Fish Tank Podcast.
Speaker 1: They have a podcast dropping tomorrow an exclusive interview with
Speaker 1: former Dolphins running back Ricky Williams. Let's go ahead and
Speaker 1: jump now to my interview with Seth and O J.
Speaker 1: Juice McDuffie, and I'm thrilled to be joined now on
Speaker 1: the Drivetime podcast by the two hosts of the Fish
Speaker 1: Tank Podcast, part of the Miami Dolphins official podcast network.
Speaker 1: I've got Seth Lovitt, I've got o J. Juice McDuffie. Seth,
Speaker 1: how you doing. We'll start with you doing great? Travis.
Speaker 1: It's exciting to be here. I know we've been kind
Speaker 1: of following each other via Twitter and and listening to
Speaker 1: the shows for quite some time and here we uh
Speaker 1: find ourselves back together on the Dolphins podcast network, and
Speaker 1: it's about time we got invited to join time. Man,
Speaker 1: we're excited to be here. Well, it's a perfect time
Speaker 1: to do it. You see over my shoulder right here
Speaker 1: we have the Ricky Williams backdrop painting commissioned that for me,
Speaker 1: it's my price possession and Juice. You guys had a
Speaker 1: chance to talk to Ricky on a previous podcast. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't really know where to start with this,
Speaker 1: but I just want to go ahead and I guess
Speaker 1: and ask you. I think it's really easy to misconstrue
Speaker 1: who Ricky is as a person, or fans get a
Speaker 1: bad idea about Ricky. In your opinion, who is Ricky Williams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think what people might not understand about rick is, um,
Speaker 1: how much you love the game of football. You know,
Speaker 1: people thought that there was no love for the game
Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, some of the things he
Speaker 1: did when he retired his you know obviously what he was,
Speaker 1: you know, doing things like smoking marijuana and suspensions and
Speaker 1: things like that. Rick loved football, and it'll come out
Speaker 1: in the podcast. Man, he just uh, you know, and
Speaker 1: he loves his time down here in Miami. He really
Speaker 1: enjoyed his time down here in Miami. And you know
Speaker 1: the fact that most people thought that he retired because
Speaker 1: he didn't have love for the game, that's what they're
Speaker 1: all And the fish Tank podcast is a great job
Speaker 1: of going back in depth over a certain span of
Speaker 1: players careers, or coaches careers or even you guys get
Speaker 1: media on equipment managers. It's it's can't it's can't miss
Speaker 1: podcasting for my money, especially as a Dolphins fan. And Seth,
Speaker 1: I'm curious to get your your take here. What was
Speaker 1: the initial idea, initial concept for the fish Tank podcast
Speaker 1: and how did you guys get this all going. I
Speaker 1: appreciate your kind words, Travis, and and really it's um.
Speaker 1: You know, we were narrative driven. We love telling stories,
Speaker 1: and I think you know o J and I talk
Speaker 1: about it every time we get together. If we run
Speaker 1: into somebody we haven't seen in a long time, we
Speaker 1: just start talking about the old old days and telling stories.
Speaker 1: And and I think that there's there's so much that's
Speaker 1: talked about that fans don't get to hear because a
Speaker 1: lot of the questions that are asked, and rightfully so,
Speaker 1: are about what happened on the field and about xs
Speaker 1: and ohs and and you know, let's talk about this
Speaker 1: game in that game, and and those things are critically important.
Speaker 1: I think you do a great job of it with
Speaker 1: your podcast, both with the stuff that you're doing from
Speaker 1: from the old days as well as covering the current teams.
Speaker 1: But there's so much else that happens, I think behind
Speaker 1: the scenes, whether it's on the sidelines, in the huddle
Speaker 1: or just when guys are hanging out with each other,
Speaker 1: um and and to give guys an opportunity to tell
Speaker 1: those stories, to relive those moments, and to give fans
Speaker 1: just a quick peek behind the curtain. It's a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. Sometimes sometimes it's really deep and and profound
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, which you'll find with Ricky story.
Speaker 1: And sometimes guys are just outrageous and you shake your head.
Speaker 1: But we just try and have a good time, and
Speaker 1: it's always about the story first and to reciprocate the
Speaker 1: thank you for the kind words. Thank you for that gentlemen.
Speaker 1: It's it's it means a lot to me. And as
Speaker 1: someone that grew up a die hard Miami Dolphins fans,
Speaker 1: grew up watching you, juice. You were my guy back
Speaker 1: in the nineties and into the two thousands, and to
Speaker 1: be someone that was a fan kind of turned journalist
Speaker 1: turned media it's I've always told people that work with
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, people that are associated with the Dolphins, that
Speaker 1: the number one thing fans want is the exclusive behind
Speaker 1: the scenes peak. They want to feel like they have
Speaker 1: some thing that they didn't have otherwise, or maybe the
Speaker 1: other fans aren't getting and I feel like with the
Speaker 1: fish Tank Juice and especially in this podcast, that's what
Speaker 1: you guys do, right. Yeah, absolutely, it's it's so much
Speaker 1: fun too. You know, we can all look up stats
Speaker 1: and look up numbers and see film, but to hear
Speaker 1: some of the back stories and some of the things
Speaker 1: that happened in the locker room, some things that happened
Speaker 1: on the road or in the airplanes or you know,
Speaker 1: the stories that we might have known about. But it's
Speaker 1: good to hear the guys tell us what the real
Speaker 1: story is sometimes and that's that's that's the exciting thing.
Speaker 1: And what you we really like two Traps is that
Speaker 1: when the guys get on and they open up a
Speaker 1: lot of times they they they light up and they're
Speaker 1: they're happy to talk about the past, and you know,
Speaker 1: we live from their glory days because like Seth talked about,
Speaker 1: when guys get together, the only thing they really missed
Speaker 1: the locker room. They missed that locker room chatter and
Speaker 1: in the in the banner and giving each other a
Speaker 1: hard time. And so we dig up with stories we
Speaker 1: when we we when we have guys on, we'll call
Speaker 1: some of the best buddies that they played with and
Speaker 1: try to get some stories, you know, behind the scene stories,
Speaker 1: and and then when we bring it up, man, they
Speaker 1: are shocked and they're laughing and they're having a good
Speaker 1: of time. Man. You'll see that in the Ricky podcast.
Speaker 1: And we actually got aholder of Ronnie and we had
Speaker 1: Ronnie in the tank and he told a couple of
Speaker 1: stories and Ricky just really loved And so that's that's
Speaker 1: the fun part about it. These guys, when they can
Speaker 1: relive their glory days, are really have some funny stories
Speaker 1: that happened to him while they were. You know, whether
Speaker 1: we're in the league the good old days. My personal
Speaker 1: glory days went back to high school. I played baseball
Speaker 1: and basketball and my favorite time of all that was
Speaker 1: shagging balls on the outfield for batting practice and the
Speaker 1: bus rides to the game. So I completely agree with that.
Speaker 1: And the Michael Jordan document you right now that my
Speaker 1: favorite scene in that entire show was him on the plane.
Speaker 1: I forget what player was, but he's telling the cameras
Speaker 1: this guy he's an alcoholic. He's you know, he's out
Speaker 1: there every single night ripping and roaring. So that's that's
Speaker 1: the part of this game that we all don't get
Speaker 1: to hear enough about. But you guys come in here
Speaker 1: and that's where we start with Ricky Williams Seth and
Speaker 1: I'm I'm curious to get just the information about what
Speaker 1: time on you guys covered, because with Ricky Williams life,
Speaker 1: I mean, I had Tom Herman on the podcast the
Speaker 1: other day, the Texas coach, and he looked at the
Speaker 1: paint and go from my shoulder and said that he
Speaker 1: was scurity detail for Ricky back at Texas way back
Speaker 1: in the day. And you have this guy who was
Speaker 1: a college phenomen and one of the most interesting persons
Speaker 1: in the National Football League history. Where do you guys
Speaker 1: kick off this podcast with Ricky's time in the NFL
Speaker 1: with the Dolphins or where does it begin? Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a great question and a great point. In fact, I
Speaker 1: think I mentioned it to it in our episode that
Speaker 1: you know, you can't cover Ricky's entire football journey in
Speaker 1: one show, or at least not one that goes an hour.
Speaker 1: And so we did start with with the trade to
Speaker 1: Miami in two thousand two. Having said that, you know,
Speaker 1: Ricky is, as you said, such an interesting guy and
Speaker 1: such a unique individual. What we also want to do
Speaker 1: is make sure we talked about where Ricky was at
Speaker 1: in his life. You know, what he's doing now, the
Speaker 1: decisions that he's made prior to his career, during his career,
Speaker 1: and post career that were unrelated to football, because we
Speaker 1: think that that's every bit is interesting and and is
Speaker 1: important when it comes to talking about Ricky story. And
Speaker 1: you talk about the two thousand two season, I got
Speaker 1: the glimpse of the preview you guys put up on
Speaker 1: Twitter where he talks about you know, he was proud
Speaker 1: of what they accomplished, even though it came to kind
Speaker 1: of a tragic ending. And I talked about being a
Speaker 1: Dolphins fan as a kid. That was the last two
Speaker 1: games that that collapse in the New England game broke
Speaker 1: my heart as a as a kid. And I'm curious
Speaker 1: to ask your opinion here, Juice, as a player, you
Speaker 1: know from this organization for a long time, was there
Speaker 1: a certain burden that Ricky fell upon arrival because two
Speaker 1: first round draft picks and the guy that basically was
Speaker 1: asked year in and year out, let's like, no, the
Speaker 1: quarterback position, Let's go ahead and go status quo there
Speaker 1: and just feed rick and did he really feel that
Speaker 1: burden in his career. Ricky was excited to be a
Speaker 1: part of his organization as a running back, as being
Speaker 1: the man on offense. You know, most times you talk
Speaker 1: about the league, the quarterback is the man. When Ricky,
Speaker 1: you know, came, he was the man on offense. And
Speaker 1: he knew he was playing with a great defense, so
Speaker 1: he knew to be a lot of opportunities to run
Speaker 1: the football. So he was excited about that. That was
Speaker 1: one of the things he touched on in the podcast
Speaker 1: about you know, coming to Miami and you and being
Speaker 1: that guy, being that running back. So uh, I mean,
Speaker 1: he he loved it. He loved it. There's some other
Speaker 1: things that kept him from being here more or be
Speaker 1: here longer, and we'll get into that in the podcast,
Speaker 1: but yeah, he he loved the fact that, you know,
Speaker 1: he had a coach in and and wants that that
Speaker 1: you know, had a great defense and loved to run football.
Speaker 1: And you mentioned the other activities that may prevented him
Speaker 1: from having a longer career, at least a more consistently
Speaker 1: on the field career. And I'd be curious to know.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys covered this on the podcast. But
Speaker 1: you know, laws and rules back then were different than
Speaker 1: they are now. Does he talk about that a little
Speaker 1: bit about how maybe his career if he was just
Speaker 1: ten years younger, might have been a lot different. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, we he does talk about just his individuality
Speaker 1: and uh, the NFL today versus the NFL of fifteen
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, and where individuals fit within the league
Speaker 1: like the one that we're all a part of. But um, again,
Speaker 1: you know, our store, our our podcast is narrative driven,
Speaker 1: and so you know, we don't necessarily do a deep
Speaker 1: dive to every moment and decision in his life. Um,
Speaker 1: but he does talk about that decision and as much
Speaker 1: as his marijuana use, it was well documented. We don't
Speaker 1: talk a whole lot about that, quite frankly, but just
Speaker 1: just decisions that he needed to make in his life
Speaker 1: and where he was at and needing to find himself.
Speaker 1: And you know, Ricky, Ricky is very introspective and is
Speaker 1: constantly working on Ricky and uh and I think has
Speaker 1: been his entire life and and seems to be in
Speaker 1: a really wonderful place now. But that was a time
Speaker 1: where he felt like he needed to to take a
Speaker 1: break and focus on him. Well, it's great to hear
Speaker 1: that he isn't a good place at this stage of
Speaker 1: his life. It's something that it seems like throughout the
Speaker 1: course of his career he was always searching for, you know,
Speaker 1: his purpose and in his place in this world. And
Speaker 1: it sounds like he has found that. At the time,
Speaker 1: his place was on the football field, because he was
Speaker 1: so damn good and it showed because every time he
Speaker 1: went away and came back he was still productive. And
Speaker 1: I'm curious to get your take on this juice because
Speaker 1: he steps away in two thousand and four, comes back
Speaker 1: in oh five, I think it was a four game
Speaker 1: suspension plays out that year. Is there this like hunger,
Speaker 1: this drive that players get maybe initially stepping away that
Speaker 1: you think that maybe Ricky gotten was like Okay, I
Speaker 1: gotta get back on the football field. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: most guys, I mean, how many guys actually leave the
Speaker 1: game on their own terms? You know, not very many do.
Speaker 1: And that's one of the things that uh, you know,
Speaker 1: most players are pushed out, retired, forced out, and retired hurt.
Speaker 1: They don't usually get to leave on their own terms.
Speaker 1: And the fact that he was able to leave and
Speaker 1: be able to come back and still be that guy.
Speaker 1: You know, that's that's that's hard to do. But that
Speaker 1: just tells you how good Rick was, how good you know,
Speaker 1: what the hell of player he he really was? And
Speaker 1: you know, um, you know, Rick talks a little bit
Speaker 1: about leaving and coming back and then you know the
Speaker 1: passion for the game that he has. But man, I
Speaker 1: mean to be able to come back and still put
Speaker 1: up some big numbers, Uh, it's pretty impressive. Like I said,
Speaker 1: most of us we leave this game, you know the
Speaker 1: other way. You know, very few guys get to have
Speaker 1: the great retirements and that they wanted, that they dreamed of.
Speaker 1: Most of us get pushed out or just banged up out.
Speaker 1: Did you have a chance to go in depth at
Speaker 1: all on the injury you back? And I think it
Speaker 1: was two thousand six or two thousand seven when he
Speaker 1: got stepped on in that Pittsburgh Monday night game. Did
Speaker 1: he have a chance to really tell you about maybe
Speaker 1: how disheartening that was seth because you go into you know,
Speaker 1: a season where I think that was his first game
Speaker 1: back and then he exits within the first couple of quarters.
Speaker 1: He talked about that at all? Uh? We I mean
Speaker 1: we briefly, uh glossed over it if if you would
Speaker 1: even give it that. I mean, that was the two
Speaker 1: thousand seventh season, which you know clearly was a low
Speaker 1: point in this franchise's history. Um and I make a
Speaker 1: little bit of a joke, and you know you'll hear
Speaker 1: it on the show. But the reality is is that
Speaker 1: there was gonna be a season that you missed. You
Speaker 1: know that that probably isn't one that he wishes he
Speaker 1: had had more opportunities to be a part of. But
Speaker 1: uh so we mentioned it, But I think really what
Speaker 1: we covered was the fact that he had three um
Speaker 1: unique stints with the Dolphins, right and there was that
Speaker 1: first that first magical time here No. Two oh three,
Speaker 1: and then as you mentioned, when he came back with
Speaker 1: coach Saban and then you know the Wildcat Tony Sperano years.
Speaker 1: And so we do talk about each of those, uh
Speaker 1: those instances and how unique each of them were and
Speaker 1: as productive as he was. One thing I thought was
Speaker 1: really fascinating is as productive as he was in O
Speaker 1: two and oh three, he felt and and he says this,
Speaker 1: he felt that he had a greater appreciation for the
Speaker 1: game when he came back and that's because he needed
Speaker 1: to work on him and and that time away allowed
Speaker 1: him to do that. Kind of like you don't know
Speaker 1: what you've got until it's gone. Situation, there a little
Speaker 1: bit of that, and I think again, just you know,
Speaker 1: like any of us, if we've got other things outside
Speaker 1: of our workplace that are bothering us, it's hard to
Speaker 1: be the best that we can be. And we saw
Speaker 1: the output, and the output was outrageous. But if he
Speaker 1: didn't feel whole, he needed to feel whole too, then
Speaker 1: appreciate every moment that that. Maybe you know, Ricky was
Speaker 1: so good for so long, and so I think being
Speaker 1: good at football was something that came natural to him
Speaker 1: and was he expected and was used to and maybe
Speaker 1: didn't excite him as much as it excited all of
Speaker 1: us watching him break all those runs. But when he
Speaker 1: came back, he had, you know, he just looked at
Speaker 1: it differently and approached well, yeah, because I mean, your
Speaker 1: profession can certainly become your identity, especially on such a
Speaker 1: platform where you're such a big celebrity and and everyone's
Speaker 1: talking about you, you know, not just on Sundays, but
Speaker 1: throughout the course of the season. And I'm curious to
Speaker 1: get your take on this juice because as a person
Speaker 1: that played for so long in the NFL and a
Speaker 1: league in a game that's all about, you know, the
Speaker 1: fifty three. Everyone's as important as the next guy, or
Speaker 1: however you want to phrase that. Was there times in
Speaker 1: his career where maybe Ricky felt a little bit like
Speaker 1: he either let his teammates down or maybe they felt
Speaker 1: like he they felt like he wasn't all the way
Speaker 1: in and kind of helps some animosity towards him. Do
Speaker 1: you ever get a sense of how his teammates kind
Speaker 1: of took Ricky into the locker room. I think Ricky
Speaker 1: might have felt that way at times. Um, I think
Speaker 1: rick Man he was really all about his teammates. I
Speaker 1: mean he Yeah, you'd be shocked at all the guys
Speaker 1: he talks about in the podcast that uh, you know
Speaker 1: that influenced him, that he looked up to, that you know,
Speaker 1: he really admired on the football team. Um, but he
Speaker 1: was all about the of the fifty two. You know,
Speaker 1: rick knew that rick did his job, he worked hard,
Speaker 1: but the other fifty two guys do their job. But
Speaker 1: you know, he was all he was. He was an
Speaker 1: all in team player, and I do think he he
Speaker 1: wonders what other guys felt, you know, once he left
Speaker 1: the game, once he retired, once he left, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the first retirement, because he cares about those guys and
Speaker 1: he cares about their opinion, especially the guys that were
Speaker 1: the big guys in the locker room all way down
Speaker 1: to the guys that worked in the equipment room. So
Speaker 1: he was he was that type of guy. And I
Speaker 1: you know me, you know, I've known Ricky since he
Speaker 1: came out of college. But for me to get a
Speaker 1: chance to really sit down and wrap to him about
Speaker 1: some of the other stuff, man, it for one to
Speaker 1: change my perspective and view of Ricky. But I did
Speaker 1: see him on some reality shows to change my perspective
Speaker 1: over on it as well, so that helped a little bit. Um.
Speaker 1: But I tell you, man, it was just a great
Speaker 1: to see him open up and talk about the respect
Speaker 1: he had for the game and for his teammates that
Speaker 1: those fifty three that just talking about. So one of
Speaker 1: the segments I will go ahead and tell you guys
Speaker 1: I shamelessly stole from you guys is asking players about
Speaker 1: their basketball back ounds. Because of the great stories you
Speaker 1: guys tell about the famous. Was that your house, Juice
Speaker 1: the games went down? Oh yeah, yeah in my backyard.
Speaker 1: Was he ever a part of those No, Rick, I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I was pretty much done by
Speaker 1: the time Rick got here. I was pretty much done
Speaker 1: with those games. I couldn't really go out there and
Speaker 1: play S S S. Knows. If I can't play, nobody
Speaker 1: took your ball and go home with it, man. So
Speaker 1: that's that's the way I rolled. I think we have
Speaker 1: like one season Juice where you let people play, but
Speaker 1: then you weren't having it. I couldn't do it. It's
Speaker 1: it's torture, man. Was my game right there? Torture out
Speaker 1: there watching those guys on my court, I mean court. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to hop the fence over there with
Speaker 1: those dogs. Just turned the NBA on watch. Ricky played basketball,
Speaker 1: you know. He's a hell of a baseball player. Was
Speaker 1: drafted and we didn't talk about his baseball career, But
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was a football play basketball player. Yeah,
Speaker 1: might be one of those guys that winds up getting
Speaker 1: five fouls in the first quarter and has to go
Speaker 1: some on the bench. The rest of the game could
Speaker 1: be well, guys, I mean what else do you want
Speaker 1: to talk about with Ricky here? Because there's so much
Speaker 1: we can get into. I just want to know, like,
Speaker 1: what do you want to promote on the podcast in
Speaker 1: in particular, because I'm sure there's plenty of we haven't
Speaker 1: talked about yet. You know what I would say, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure Jews has his own unique perspective on this,
Speaker 1: But what I would say Travis is that, I mean,
Speaker 1: first and foremost, he's Ricky. He's enigmatic, and he was
Speaker 1: exciting and and you know, came in like out of
Speaker 1: nowhere with that trade and was better than advertised for
Speaker 1: two years and then all of a sudden he was
Speaker 1: like gone. And so um, I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people feel very strongly about Ricky one way or the other.
Speaker 1: You know, clearly, you well you might have been disappointed,
Speaker 1: you haven't held it against him where I'm even seeing
Speaker 1: it today in some responses on Twitter, um that some
Speaker 1: people still hold a grudge because of the fact that
Speaker 1: he left. And and you know, I get it a
Speaker 1: lot of times as fans we care about well, of course,
Speaker 1: we always care about what happens on Sundays, but we
Speaker 1: sometimes don't look beyond what happens in between those white
Speaker 1: lines and what somebody decisions someone has to make and
Speaker 1: the human being that's there. Um And not saying I
Speaker 1: agree or disagree with decisions that Ricky made, but uh,
Speaker 1: I my hope is that people will, regardless of where
Speaker 1: they stand, that they will listen to this because I
Speaker 1: think it's a really exciting and interesting um just insight
Speaker 1: onto who Ricky is as a person. Uh. And he talks,
Speaker 1: you know, he he hated talking about football those first
Speaker 1: two years when and I was a PR guy there
Speaker 1: and did a lot of work with him, and he
Speaker 1: was bored by the questions and he was tired of it.
Speaker 1: And and he made it real hard for some media
Speaker 1: members if he didn't feel that they were bringing their
Speaker 1: a game, and sometimes just made it hard to make
Speaker 1: it hard on him. And because I don't I don't
Speaker 1: think that those things were interesting to him. But he
Speaker 1: enjoyed talking about Dolphins football when he was with us.
Speaker 1: He really really enjoyed talking about it. So it was
Speaker 1: kind of cool to see him reflect upon that. And
Speaker 1: I will also say that, um, well there's a lot
Speaker 1: about that decision in him leaving that that is discussed
Speaker 1: in this podcasts and things that uh, I think folks
Speaker 1: might find interesting or surprising. But he he sheds the
Speaker 1: light on the conversation he had with Dave Wonstead and
Speaker 1: telling him that he was he was gonna step away,
Speaker 1: and I thought that was fascinating. No, I can't wait
Speaker 1: to hear that. I mean my own personal experience from
Speaker 1: when Ricky retired, when I found out. So I told
Speaker 1: you guys, I was a kid. I was. I was
Speaker 1: sixteen years old and not enough. We're sitting here with
Speaker 1: no Aaron Gray and come on, kid, just I mean
Speaker 1: I was so impressionable all the time. And so when
Speaker 1: and this was before you know that you got twee,
Speaker 1: Twitter and text and all the things that you know
Speaker 1: would get your information immediately. And I had this friend
Speaker 1: that would always play practical jokes on me and my
Speaker 1: other friends. He calls me and I'm out with like
Speaker 1: a girlfriend at the time, you know, riding around the
Speaker 1: streets doing my thing, and he calls me and says,
Speaker 1: you might want to sit down for this. I have
Speaker 1: some news. And he knew how important Ricky and the
Speaker 1: Dolphins were to me. And he breaks this news to me,
Speaker 1: and I have my flip phone and I literally just
Speaker 1: clap it up and say whatever, dude, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't take that for truth for a second. So that
Speaker 1: was how the news got broke to me before I
Speaker 1: thought he was. And the next morning I wake up
Speaker 1: and see the newspaper and I like didn't believe my eyes.
Speaker 1: Did did he? When he decided to go ahead and
Speaker 1: call it quits and have that conversation, like you mentioned, Juice,
Speaker 1: was it wasn't all the way out? Was he was
Speaker 1: there any inclination that maybe he had a footstill on
Speaker 1: the door or was he just all the way out? Um?
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how I felt. I think I felt
Speaker 1: like he was out. I think he was all the
Speaker 1: way out at that point, because he, like Sef talked about,
Speaker 1: he had other things you need to take care of
Speaker 1: personally that he was looking for, uh some different endeavors
Speaker 1: and was going a different path man. And you know,
Speaker 1: and he talks about it. He talks about exactly where
Speaker 1: he was, what he was doing. Um, you know that
Speaker 1: the whole story. Man. It was pretty pretty amazing for
Speaker 1: him to open up. And you know, he does talk
Speaker 1: about he and he obviously he missed the game, would
Speaker 1: never come back to it, you know. So but definitely
Speaker 1: he was out. He was out out at that point
Speaker 1: and looking for other things to do with his life. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm glad it's I keep saying this. I feel like
Speaker 1: it's repetitive at this point, but it's just it's so
Speaker 1: nice to hear that Ricky found, you know, found his
Speaker 1: purpose and found what he was looking for and all
Speaker 1: the introspective searching he did and all the stuff throughout
Speaker 1: the course of his life and his career. So it
Speaker 1: sounds like you guys got the best out of him.
Speaker 1: Anything else seth anything else, juice, you guys want to
Speaker 1: leave us with listening in And you know, I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to folks hearing this. And we were really excited
Speaker 1: to get Ricky on, and we knew it would happen
Speaker 1: at some point, but this is great timing for us
Speaker 1: to have this episode. And you know, I'm sure O
Speaker 1: J and I could talk about this all day long.
Speaker 1: We would love to let the episode speak for itself
Speaker 1: as well. And and um, I'm excited for you to
Speaker 1: hear it and for other Dolphin fans to hear it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to spoil anything else as
Speaker 1: far as the content go, So we'll just go ahead
Speaker 1: and leave it there, but I will tell the fans
Speaker 1: we do plan to having Juice on the Drivetime Podcast
Speaker 1: for a flashback one of these weeks, so keep an
Speaker 1: eye out for that. Everyone. Check out the Fish Tank
Speaker 1: Podcast and do an awesome job here part of the
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins podcast network fellows, Seth Juice, thank you so much,
Speaker 1: Thanks Travis Doreat, thank you. And man, that's gonna be
Speaker 1: like Christmas morning for me growing up as a really
Speaker 1: kind of golden era early two thousands Dolphins fan watching
Speaker 1: Ricky Williams, Zach Thomas, Jason Taylor, Sam Madison, Patrick Surtan,
Speaker 1: that dominant defense, that dominant running game, all with Ricky
Speaker 1: Williams at the focal point and of course one of
Speaker 1: the more interesting men, more of the more interesting players
Speaker 1: to really ever play, not just for the Miami Dolphins,
Speaker 1: but in the National Football League. So check out that podcast,
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