WEBVTT - Fish Tank Podcast Crossover: Ricky Williams 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:07.360 Fractors are Alpine Patrick drawing textole what a win for 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:12.840 this Miami Dolphin teams? Wow, What is up? Dolphins? And 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:16.440 welcome to the Drive Time Podcast, part of the Miami 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:21.239 Dolphins official podcast network, covering your Miami Dolphins each and 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:24.280 every day. How's it going everybody? I am your host, 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:27.000 Travis Wingfield, and I am here to bring you your 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:30.560 daily dose of Miami Dolphins football. And on today's show, 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:33.600 a special edition of the Drive Time Pod as we 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:37.560 welcome in two heavy hitters of the podcast game, two 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:40.960 men that have been part of the Miami Dolphins organization 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:43.960 for a long long time, the hosts of the fish 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:47.680 Tank Podcast with Seth Levitt and O. J. Juice McDuffie. 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:51.840 We are previewing their conversation with Dolphins great running back 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:55.920 Ricky Williams. That episode drops tomorrow, So subscribe to the 0:00:55.920 --> 0:01:00.320 fish Tank Podcast on Apple Podcast, Spotify, Google Play, wherever 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:02.360 you get your podcast from. Go check out the fish 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:05.039 Tank for the Ricky Williams episode and the rest of 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:07.840 their catalog on the fish Tank Podcast. We'll talk to 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:11.360 them here on this Monday May the eighteenth edition of 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:17.720 the Drivetime Podcast Dolphins. My two guests today are Seth 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:20.640 Levitt and o J. McDuffie of the Fish Tank Podcast. 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:24.399 They have a podcast dropping tomorrow an exclusive interview with 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:27.480 former Dolphins running back Ricky Williams. Let's go ahead and 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:30.360 jump now to my interview with Seth and O J. 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:33.680 Juice McDuffie, and I'm thrilled to be joined now on 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.920 the Drivetime podcast by the two hosts of the Fish 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:40.200 Tank Podcast, part of the Miami Dolphins official podcast network. 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:43.720 I've got Seth Lovitt, I've got o J. Juice McDuffie. Seth, 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:46.480 how you doing. We'll start with you doing great? Travis. 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:48.920 It's exciting to be here. I know we've been kind 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.440 of following each other via Twitter and and listening to 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:54.240 the shows for quite some time and here we uh 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:58.440 find ourselves back together on the Dolphins podcast network, and 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:00.520 it's about time we got invited to join time. Man, 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:02.680 we're excited to be here. Well, it's a perfect time 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:04.280 to do it. You see over my shoulder right here 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:08.440 we have the Ricky Williams backdrop painting commissioned that for me, 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:11.000 it's my price possession and Juice. You guys had a 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:14.239 chance to talk to Ricky on a previous podcast. I mean, 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:16.320 I don't I don't really know where to start with this, 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:17.680 but I just want to go ahead and I guess 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:20.880 and ask you. I think it's really easy to misconstrue 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:23.320 who Ricky is as a person, or fans get a 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:28.440 bad idea about Ricky. In your opinion, who is Ricky Williams. Yeah, 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:31.760 I think what people might not understand about rick is, um, 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:33.880 how much you love the game of football. You know, 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:35.919 people thought that there was no love for the game 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:37.840 in terms of, you know, some of the things he 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:41.960 did when he retired his you know obviously what he was, 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:45.640 you know, doing things like smoking marijuana and suspensions and 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:49.120 things like that. Rick loved football, and it'll come out 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:51.239 in the podcast. Man, he just uh, you know, and 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:53.240 he loves his time down here in Miami. He really 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:55.400 enjoyed his time down here in Miami. And you know 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.160 the fact that most people thought that he retired because 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:00.000 he didn't have love for the game, that's what they're 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.960 all And the fish Tank podcast is a great job 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:05.840 of going back in depth over a certain span of 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:08.680 players careers, or coaches careers or even you guys get 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:12.120 media on equipment managers. It's it's can't it's can't miss 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:15.200 podcasting for my money, especially as a Dolphins fan. And Seth, 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:17.160 I'm curious to get your your take here. What was 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:20.400 the initial idea, initial concept for the fish Tank podcast 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:22.560 and how did you guys get this all going. I 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:26.880 appreciate your kind words, Travis, and and really it's um. 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:29.480 You know, we were narrative driven. We love telling stories, 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:31.400 and I think you know o J and I talk 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:33.399 about it every time we get together. If we run 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:35.520 into somebody we haven't seen in a long time, we 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:38.480 just start talking about the old old days and telling stories. 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:40.839 And and I think that there's there's so much that's 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:43.640 talked about that fans don't get to hear because a 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:47.600 lot of the questions that are asked, and rightfully so, 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.839 are about what happened on the field and about xs 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.040 and ohs and and you know, let's talk about this 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:56.080 game in that game, and and those things are critically important. 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:57.600 I think you do a great job of it with 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:00.279 your podcast, both with the stuff that you're doing from 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:03.200 from the old days as well as covering the current teams. 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:06.320 But there's so much else that happens, I think behind 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:08.960 the scenes, whether it's on the sidelines, in the huddle 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:11.119 or just when guys are hanging out with each other, 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:14.320 um and and to give guys an opportunity to tell 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:17.679 those stories, to relive those moments, and to give fans 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:20.440 just a quick peek behind the curtain. It's a lot 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:24.240 of fun. Sometimes sometimes it's really deep and and profound 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.200 in a lot of ways, which you'll find with Ricky story. 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:29.240 And sometimes guys are just outrageous and you shake your head. 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.560 But we just try and have a good time, and 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:34.440 it's always about the story first and to reciprocate the 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:36.679 thank you for the kind words. Thank you for that gentlemen. 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:38.400 It's it's it means a lot to me. And as 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:41.080 someone that grew up a die hard Miami Dolphins fans, 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:43.000 grew up watching you, juice. You were my guy back 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:45.960 in the nineties and into the two thousands, and to 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:48.919 be someone that was a fan kind of turned journalist 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:51.800 turned media it's I've always told people that work with 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:54.040 the Dolphins, people that are associated with the Dolphins, that 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.960 the number one thing fans want is the exclusive behind 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:59.159 the scenes peak. They want to feel like they have 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.159 some thing that they didn't have otherwise, or maybe the 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:03.919 other fans aren't getting and I feel like with the 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:06.479 fish Tank Juice and especially in this podcast, that's what 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:09.120 you guys do, right. Yeah, absolutely, it's it's so much 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:11.039 fun too. You know, we can all look up stats 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:13.640 and look up numbers and see film, but to hear 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:15.160 some of the back stories and some of the things 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:17.119 that happened in the locker room, some things that happened 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.279 on the road or in the airplanes or you know, 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:22.360 the stories that we might have known about. But it's 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:24.080 good to hear the guys tell us what the real 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.640 story is sometimes and that's that's that's the exciting thing. 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:29.080 And what you we really like two Traps is that 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:31.520 when the guys get on and they open up a 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:34.440 lot of times they they they light up and they're 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:36.599 they're happy to talk about the past, and you know, 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:39.320 we live from their glory days because like Seth talked about, 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:41.839 when guys get together, the only thing they really missed 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:44.360 the locker room. They missed that locker room chatter and 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:46.400 in the in the banner and giving each other a 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:49.400 hard time. And so we dig up with stories we 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:51.800 when we we when we have guys on, we'll call 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:53.640 some of the best buddies that they played with and 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:56.120 try to get some stories, you know, behind the scene stories, 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:58.000 and and then when we bring it up, man, they 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:00.000 are shocked and they're laughing and they're having a good 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.720 of time. Man. You'll see that in the Ricky podcast. 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.000 And we actually got aholder of Ronnie and we had 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:06.520 Ronnie in the tank and he told a couple of 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:09.839 stories and Ricky just really loved And so that's that's 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:12.080 the fun part about it. These guys, when they can 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:15.279 relive their glory days, are really have some funny stories 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:16.839 that happened to him while they were. You know, whether 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:19.440 we're in the league the good old days. My personal 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:21.440 glory days went back to high school. I played baseball 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:23.880 and basketball and my favorite time of all that was 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:26.400 shagging balls on the outfield for batting practice and the 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:29.560 bus rides to the game. So I completely agree with that. 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:31.800 And the Michael Jordan document you right now that my 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:34.560 favorite scene in that entire show was him on the plane. 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:36.640 I forget what player was, but he's telling the cameras 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:38.920 this guy he's an alcoholic. He's you know, he's out 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:41.479 there every single night ripping and roaring. So that's that's 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:43.240 the part of this game that we all don't get 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.120 to hear enough about. But you guys come in here 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:47.240 and that's where we start with Ricky Williams Seth and 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:50.159 I'm I'm curious to get just the information about what 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:53.000 time on you guys covered, because with Ricky Williams life, 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:55.680 I mean, I had Tom Herman on the podcast the 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:57.560 other day, the Texas coach, and he looked at the 0:06:57.560 --> 0:06:59.200 paint and go from my shoulder and said that he 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:03.159 was scurity detail for Ricky back at Texas way back 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:05.000 in the day. And you have this guy who was 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:08.479 a college phenomen and one of the most interesting persons 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:11.360 in the National Football League history. Where do you guys 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.280 kick off this podcast with Ricky's time in the NFL 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:17.480 with the Dolphins or where does it begin? Yeah, it's 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:19.320 a great question and a great point. In fact, I 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:21.800 think I mentioned it to it in our episode that 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:26.240 you know, you can't cover Ricky's entire football journey in 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:28.280 one show, or at least not one that goes an hour. 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:32.720 And so we did start with with the trade to 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:36.440 Miami in two thousand two. Having said that, you know, 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:39.520 Ricky is, as you said, such an interesting guy and 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:43.160 such a unique individual. What we also want to do 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:44.840 is make sure we talked about where Ricky was at 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:46.600 in his life. You know, what he's doing now, the 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:50.400 decisions that he's made prior to his career, during his career, 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:53.840 and post career that were unrelated to football, because we 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:57.160 think that that's every bit is interesting and and is 0:07:57.200 --> 0:08:00.120 important when it comes to talking about Ricky story. And 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.520 you talk about the two thousand two season, I got 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:04.440 the glimpse of the preview you guys put up on 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:07.760 Twitter where he talks about you know, he was proud 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:09.720 of what they accomplished, even though it came to kind 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:12.280 of a tragic ending. And I talked about being a 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.120 Dolphins fan as a kid. That was the last two 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:17.080 games that that collapse in the New England game broke 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:20.320 my heart as a as a kid. And I'm curious 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:22.480 to ask your opinion here, Juice, as a player, you 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:25.120 know from this organization for a long time, was there 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:28.200 a certain burden that Ricky fell upon arrival because two 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:30.440 first round draft picks and the guy that basically was 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:32.599 asked year in and year out, let's like, no, the 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:35.080 quarterback position, Let's go ahead and go status quo there 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:37.600 and just feed rick and did he really feel that 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:40.320 burden in his career. Ricky was excited to be a 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:42.600 part of his organization as a running back, as being 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:44.800 the man on offense. You know, most times you talk 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:47.760 about the league, the quarterback is the man. When Ricky, 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:49.920 you know, came, he was the man on offense. And 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:51.560 he knew he was playing with a great defense, so 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:53.319 he knew to be a lot of opportunities to run 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:55.640 the football. So he was excited about that. That was 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:57.920 one of the things he touched on in the podcast 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:00.560 about you know, coming to Miami and you and being 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:03.319 that guy, being that running back. So uh, I mean, 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:05.600 he he loved it. He loved it. There's some other 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.000 things that kept him from being here more or be 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:10.360 here longer, and we'll get into that in the podcast, 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:13.080 but yeah, he he loved the fact that, you know, 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:15.360 he had a coach in and and wants that that 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:18.040 you know, had a great defense and loved to run football. 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:21.520 And you mentioned the other activities that may prevented him 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:24.160 from having a longer career, at least a more consistently 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.640 on the field career. And I'd be curious to know. 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:28.640 I'm sure you guys covered this on the podcast. But 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:31.520 you know, laws and rules back then were different than 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:33.520 they are now. Does he talk about that a little 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:35.640 bit about how maybe his career if he was just 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:39.120 ten years younger, might have been a lot different. Um, 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:42.480 you know, we he does talk about just his individuality 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:46.720 and uh, the NFL today versus the NFL of fifteen 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:50.120 twenty years ago, and where individuals fit within the league 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:54.360 like the one that we're all a part of. But um, again, 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:57.440 you know, our store, our our podcast is narrative driven, 0:09:57.480 --> 0:09:59.640 and so you know, we don't necessarily do a deep 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:02.760 dive to every moment and decision in his life. Um, 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:06.040 but he does talk about that decision and as much 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:10.760 as his marijuana use, it was well documented. We don't 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.360 talk a whole lot about that, quite frankly, but just 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:15.280 just decisions that he needed to make in his life 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:17.880 and where he was at and needing to find himself. 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:21.120 And you know, Ricky, Ricky is very introspective and is 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:24.760 constantly working on Ricky and uh and I think has 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.000 been his entire life and and seems to be in 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:29.120 a really wonderful place now. But that was a time 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:31.760 where he felt like he needed to to take a 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.719 break and focus on him. Well, it's great to hear 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:36.240 that he isn't a good place at this stage of 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:38.200 his life. It's something that it seems like throughout the 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:40.679 course of his career he was always searching for, you know, 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:43.000 his purpose and in his place in this world. And 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:45.000 it sounds like he has found that. At the time, 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.480 his place was on the football field, because he was 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.240 so damn good and it showed because every time he 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:52.920 went away and came back he was still productive. And 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.000 I'm curious to get your take on this juice because 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:57.400 he steps away in two thousand and four, comes back 0:10:57.440 --> 0:10:59.160 in oh five, I think it was a four game 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:03.079 suspension plays out that year. Is there this like hunger, 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:06.120 this drive that players get maybe initially stepping away that 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:08.160 you think that maybe Ricky gotten was like Okay, I 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:10.600 gotta get back on the football field. Yeah. I think 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:12.760 most guys, I mean, how many guys actually leave the 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.040 game on their own terms? You know, not very many do. 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.080 And that's one of the things that uh, you know, 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:20.560 most players are pushed out, retired, forced out, and retired hurt. 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:22.800 They don't usually get to leave on their own terms. 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:24.280 And the fact that he was able to leave and 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:26.040 be able to come back and still be that guy. 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.440 You know, that's that's that's hard to do. But that 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:30.720 just tells you how good Rick was, how good you know, 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:33.280 what the hell of player he he really was? And 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.280 you know, um, you know, Rick talks a little bit 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.640 about leaving and coming back and then you know the 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:41.360 passion for the game that he has. But man, I 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:43.400 mean to be able to come back and still put 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:46.240 up some big numbers, Uh, it's pretty impressive. Like I said, 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:48.840 most of us we leave this game, you know the 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:50.840 other way. You know, very few guys get to have 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:53.640 the great retirements and that they wanted, that they dreamed of. 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:56.040 Most of us get pushed out or just banged up out. 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:58.560 Did you have a chance to go in depth at 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:00.880 all on the injury you back? And I think it 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:03.240 was two thousand six or two thousand seven when he 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:06.000 got stepped on in that Pittsburgh Monday night game. Did 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:08.319 he have a chance to really tell you about maybe 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:11.480 how disheartening that was seth because you go into you know, 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:13.280 a season where I think that was his first game 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:15.959 back and then he exits within the first couple of quarters. 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:18.719 He talked about that at all? Uh? We I mean 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:22.440 we briefly, uh glossed over it if if you would 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:24.120 even give it that. I mean, that was the two 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:26.920 thousand seventh season, which you know clearly was a low 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:31.160 point in this franchise's history. Um and I make a 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:32.880 little bit of a joke, and you know you'll hear 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:35.240 it on the show. But the reality is is that 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.400 there was gonna be a season that you missed. You 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:39.760 know that that probably isn't one that he wishes he 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:43.040 had had more opportunities to be a part of. But 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:45.959 uh so we mentioned it, But I think really what 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:49.400 we covered was the fact that he had three um 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.800 unique stints with the Dolphins, right and there was that 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:56.520 first that first magical time here No. Two oh three, 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:58.960 and then as you mentioned, when he came back with 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:02.560 coach Saban and then you know the Wildcat Tony Sperano years. 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:05.240 And so we do talk about each of those, uh 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:08.920 those instances and how unique each of them were and 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.000 as productive as he was. One thing I thought was 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:14.079 really fascinating is as productive as he was in O 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:17.600 two and oh three, he felt and and he says this, 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:21.040 he felt that he had a greater appreciation for the 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:23.640 game when he came back and that's because he needed 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:26.720 to work on him and and that time away allowed 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:28.640 him to do that. Kind of like you don't know 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:31.400 what you've got until it's gone. Situation, there a little 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:33.320 bit of that, and I think again, just you know, 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:35.680 like any of us, if we've got other things outside 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:38.679 of our workplace that are bothering us, it's hard to 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:40.400 be the best that we can be. And we saw 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:42.719 the output, and the output was outrageous. But if he 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:45.040 didn't feel whole, he needed to feel whole too, then 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:48.839 appreciate every moment that that. Maybe you know, Ricky was 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.280 so good for so long, and so I think being 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:53.320 good at football was something that came natural to him 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:56.160 and was he expected and was used to and maybe 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:58.200 didn't excite him as much as it excited all of 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:00.520 us watching him break all those runs. But when he 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:02.880 came back, he had, you know, he just looked at 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:06.040 it differently and approached well, yeah, because I mean, your 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:09.120 profession can certainly become your identity, especially on such a 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:12.000 platform where you're such a big celebrity and and everyone's 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.000 talking about you, you know, not just on Sundays, but 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.120 throughout the course of the season. And I'm curious to 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:18.400 get your take on this juice because as a person 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:20.960 that played for so long in the NFL and a 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:23.280 league in a game that's all about, you know, the 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:26.320 fifty three. Everyone's as important as the next guy, or 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:28.960 however you want to phrase that. Was there times in 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:31.600 his career where maybe Ricky felt a little bit like 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:34.040 he either let his teammates down or maybe they felt 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.920 like he they felt like he wasn't all the way 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:38.880 in and kind of helps some animosity towards him. Do 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:40.800 you ever get a sense of how his teammates kind 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:43.480 of took Ricky into the locker room. I think Ricky 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:45.360 might have felt that way at times. Um, I think 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.080 rick Man he was really all about his teammates. I 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:51.040 mean he Yeah, you'd be shocked at all the guys 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.680 he talks about in the podcast that uh, you know 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:56.440 that influenced him, that he looked up to, that you know, 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:59.280 he really admired on the football team. Um, but he 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:01.400 was all about the of the fifty two. You know, 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:03.800 rick knew that rick did his job, he worked hard, 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:05.880 but the other fifty two guys do their job. But 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:07.880 you know, he was all he was. He was an 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:11.080 all in team player, and I do think he he 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:13.440 wonders what other guys felt, you know, once he left 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:16.080 the game, once he retired, once he left, uh, you know, 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:19.960 the first retirement, because he cares about those guys and 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:22.200 he cares about their opinion, especially the guys that were 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:23.960 the big guys in the locker room all way down 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:25.720 to the guys that worked in the equipment room. So 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:27.960 he was he was that type of guy. And I 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.320 you know me, you know, I've known Ricky since he 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:32.160 came out of college. But for me to get a 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:33.960 chance to really sit down and wrap to him about 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:36.080 some of the other stuff, man, it for one to 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.400 change my perspective and view of Ricky. But I did 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:40.680 see him on some reality shows to change my perspective 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:44.040 over on it as well, so that helped a little bit. Um. 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:45.640 But I tell you, man, it was just a great 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:48.440 to see him open up and talk about the respect 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:50.880 he had for the game and for his teammates that 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:53.560 those fifty three that just talking about. So one of 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:55.920 the segments I will go ahead and tell you guys 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:58.920 I shamelessly stole from you guys is asking players about 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:01.360 their basketball back ounds. Because of the great stories you 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:03.880 guys tell about the famous. Was that your house, Juice 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.320 the games went down? Oh yeah, yeah in my backyard. 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.040 Was he ever a part of those No, Rick, I 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:10.720 was like, you know, I was pretty much done by 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:12.400 the time Rick got here. I was pretty much done 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:14.000 with those games. I couldn't really go out there and 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:17.280 play S S S. Knows. If I can't play, nobody 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:20.480 took your ball and go home with it, man. So 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:23.600 that's that's the way I rolled. I think we have 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:25.960 like one season Juice where you let people play, but 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.440 then you weren't having it. I couldn't do it. It's 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:31.960 it's torture, man. Was my game right there? Torture out 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:35.960 there watching those guys on my court, I mean court. Yeah. 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:37.720 I wasn't trying to hop the fence over there with 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:41.880 those dogs. Just turned the NBA on watch. Ricky played basketball, 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:43.560 you know. He's a hell of a baseball player. Was 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:45.640 drafted and we didn't talk about his baseball career, But 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:49.080 I don't know if he was a football play basketball player. Yeah, 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:50.680 might be one of those guys that winds up getting 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:52.200 five fouls in the first quarter and has to go 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:53.920 some on the bench. The rest of the game could 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:57.560 be well, guys, I mean what else do you want 0:16:57.600 --> 0:16:59.320 to talk about with Ricky here? Because there's so much 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:00.800 we can get into. I just want to know, like, 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:02.600 what do you want to promote on the podcast in 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:05.560 in particular, because I'm sure there's plenty of we haven't 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:09.119 talked about yet. You know what I would say, and 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:11.239 I'm sure Jews has his own unique perspective on this, 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:12.880 But what I would say Travis is that, I mean, 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.840 first and foremost, he's Ricky. He's enigmatic, and he was 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:18.760 exciting and and you know, came in like out of 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:22.199 nowhere with that trade and was better than advertised for 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:23.960 two years and then all of a sudden he was 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:27.359 like gone. And so um, I think a lot of 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:30.200 people feel very strongly about Ricky one way or the other. 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:33.480 You know, clearly, you well you might have been disappointed, 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:36.040 you haven't held it against him where I'm even seeing 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:39.600 it today in some responses on Twitter, um that some 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:42.760 people still hold a grudge because of the fact that 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:45.000 he left. And and you know, I get it a 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:47.680 lot of times as fans we care about well, of course, 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:49.760 we always care about what happens on Sundays, but we 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:53.240