1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Everyone. This is Matt Willig, former nfler and current actor. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: You're listening to the NFL Players Second Acts Podcast. 3 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 2: Welcome to the NFL Player Second Acts Podcast. 4 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 3: I'm Peanutsman and this is my deacon as always, my 5 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 3: guy rowand Harbor. 6 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 2: Why are you smiling? 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 3: Because I just love your enthusiasm quite alarming, excellently. 8 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 2: You'd never got to bring it. No, No, I like it. 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 2: I'm the traditional and with you for I just go 10 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 2: right into it. 11 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 3: I'm always I'm excited because this is a good version 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 3: of panut today. 13 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: So our guest is going to get a good show today, 14 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: all right. 15 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 3: Before we get to our guest, though, I want to 16 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 3: thank all of our listeners, our followers that always tune 17 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 3: in and pick us up, and remember you can always 18 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 3: listen to us wherever you get your podcasts at WIS, 19 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: Apple Podcasts or the iHeartRadio app. 20 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: You know who's our guest today. 21 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: We got a good one. He played fourteen years in 22 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: the NFL, an offensive lineman. He's got a Super Bowl 23 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 3: ring with the Rams. He played in another Super Bowl 24 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 3: with the Panthers. We both played for the Panthers. You've 25 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 3: seen him on TV shows, shows like The Young rock 26 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 3: and movies like we were the Millers. 27 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: Please welcome our guest, Matt Willig. 28 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 4: Yay, guys, and he is not only that, but he 29 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 4: is the big man in Hollywood. Literally, he's not a 30 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 4: big manly, he's the big man. 31 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: I'm one of them, at least. 32 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: Only on TV. Guys. Let me say, man, real quick, 33 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: it's proved to be here. I've been listening to this 34 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: show and it rocks, and it's really an honor to 35 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: be here. So thanks for having me. 36 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 3: Man, thank you. You know, I didn't realize I was 37 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 3: telling you outside. You know, you don't realize what you 38 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 3: see or who you know on TV. And I was saying, 39 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 3: you started looking like, oh, dude, god, not only I 40 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 3: mean not he's a huge person, but he has the 41 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 3: body of a football player. But he was a football player. 42 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: And then, like I was telling you earlier, my wife 43 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 3: is watching you in the as the Shield. Yeah, you know, 44 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: I told her she was addicted to this movie of 45 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 3: this show. And so it's been really cool to kind 46 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 3: of like do a really big dive in into your 47 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 3: career and how your life and all the avenues is 48 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: taking you and what your acting career is like, what 49 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 3: has been like, tell me one thing you're working on 50 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 3: my pressure. 51 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I'm me to say it's my 52 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: acting career sort of emulates my NFL career. You know, 53 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: people didn't know I played for so long. People don't 54 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: know I've been an actor for so long. But I 55 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: kind of just go along and I kind of grind 56 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: my way through. But yeah, man, I was an undrafted 57 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: free agent, you know. Yeah, was not supposed to make 58 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: it in the NFL. Only reason I got in because 59 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: I had a friend who was working at USC and 60 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: who had some connections with the Jets and they said, hey, 61 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: this guy has nothing else, will work hard for you. 62 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: And that's sort of my my deal, and that's how 63 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: my career started. 64 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: Well, you also said you were a d N at first. 65 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you switched over offensivelive put on thirty 66 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 3: forty pounds. 67 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: That's a crazy story too. You got a coach coming 68 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: to me one day after you know, we're in two days. Yeah, 69 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: I'm getting abused that when it was days, it was the. 70 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 2: Old school, six. 71 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: Weeks in a row, six weeks of two days. Brutal 72 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: coach came to me one day and said, hey, we 73 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: want to work out some drills with you, and and 74 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: two days later I had the head coach say, hey, 75 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: we're going to send you home. We're going to bring 76 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: you back as an offensive lineman on the practice squad 77 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: and see how it goes. Fourteen years. Not bad, that's awesome. 78 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: All right. 79 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: I want to I want to talk to you about 80 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 3: your closeness to win in the Super Bowl before you 81 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: actually won the Super Bowl. Okay, all right, So and 82 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 3: I had to we had to look this up a 83 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 3: little bit. So in nineteen ninety seven you were in it. 84 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 3: You played for the Falcons, yes, and you actually lost 85 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: to the Packers. 86 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: And they went to the Super Bowl. Correct, all right. 87 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 3: Then the nineteen ninety eight, the following year, you're with 88 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: the Packers and then they lost to the Falcons to 89 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 3: go to Super Bowl. 90 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: When they're doing the show, I. 91 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: Actually lost to the forty nine ers. Oh yeah, okay, 92 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: forty end up playing the Falcons. Falcons up going to 93 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. 94 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: Yes, I was rooting against you because not. 95 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: Too many people know that. So that's pretty that's pretty good. Good. 96 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: But we're connecting this whole all the dots here. 97 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: Then in ninety nine, you actually won the Super Bowl, 98 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 3: so you were close all these years, you finally win it, 99 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 3: then you're around a little bit, and all of a 100 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 3: sudden you get there again with the Panthers in two 101 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 3: thousand and three, I was in my college dorm or 102 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: actually my college. 103 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: Apartment at the time. We had a little bit of 104 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: money than you guys. Yeah, I was actually in the league. Yeah, 105 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: oh yeah, well whatever. 106 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 5: Him, Yes, yes, don't cry. 107 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: I felt a little bit about that. 108 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,799 Speaker 1: Some of us color our hair so much, don't Yeah. 109 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 3: Right, correct, But so talk about that the experience of 110 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 3: being that close, always sniffing the Super Bowl, finally getting there, 111 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden winning it, and then 112 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 3: getting there again it maybe and then losing it. 113 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: You know, listen, as you guys know, man, just being 114 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: in the league is a privilege sometimes and and you 115 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: know how hard guys work and don't get there, don't work, 116 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: and so you know, my my main focus was just 117 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: staying in the league, staying active. But yeah, there were 118 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: some times where I'm like, man, this maybe this is 119 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: my sort of curse, you know, in the league. I'm 120 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: gonna stay in the league, but I'm always going to 121 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: be that you know that also kind of just getting 122 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: close but never getting there, So it was rough. It 123 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,799 Speaker 1: was especially the one where I was with the Packers 124 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: and they had been to a couple of bulls in 125 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: a row. Yeah, you know, and then I thought, Okay, 126 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm making this nice jump here. Well I'm gonna get 127 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: on a team that's going to be back. And then 128 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: we lose, and then the Falcons, you know who we 129 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: saw a building kind of progress going on, but you know, 130 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: I didn't think they were going to get and then 131 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: the dirty birds freaking all the way. Yeah. But listen, man, 132 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: it's win or lose. You know. To me, the super 133 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: Bowl wasn't the ultimate. I was just worried about kind 134 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: of making sure that I was part of the team 135 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: and contributing things like that. Man, I didn't really have 136 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: those Super Bowl aspirations. It was really just about kind of, 137 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: let's i'll be honest, you know, making money for me 138 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: and my family and kind of keeping that thing going 139 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: because again, every year as a free agent, I had 140 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: to prove myself over and over and over again. You know, 141 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: my first five years in the league, I had five 142 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: different head coaches. So when you're that free agent guy, 143 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: there's one coach that kind of loves you and kind 144 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: of pulls on and say yeah, you're my guy, and 145 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: then he's out of there, and next thing you know, 146 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: you got another coach who wants to know you, don't 147 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: know you, and he wants to he wants the first round, 148 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: or he wants the guy who's you know, who's touted. 149 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: So that was kind of my thing. So you know, 150 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: I was I was just trying to stay afloat. 151 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 3: I gotta be honest, though, I've never heard anybody say 152 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 3: that that played in the NFL, that the Super Bowl 153 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 3: was never. 154 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: Like the ultimate. 155 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: Yea. 156 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: Really, I've never heard anybody say that. 157 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: That's what makes me stupid. 158 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 2: Or unique unique? 159 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: Yea. Go, and she was at the NFL career and 160 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: then she was an acting career after that. 161 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 3: So how proud are you too? I mean, well, let's listen. 162 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 3: You went to USC, Yeah, you know, a very franchised 163 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 3: organization college prominent, A prominent, I mean, just a great school. 164 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 3: You go there, good career, and then you go undrafted 165 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 3: fourteen years in the NFL playing a different position than 166 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 3: what you didn't play, So how tell us, like, how 167 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 3: proud are you just from from having that long of 168 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 3: a career without being drafted? 169 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: Your work, everything thank you, man, I appreciate That's that's 170 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: kind of where my pride comes from. That's that's that's 171 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: the most for me. You know, like I said, I 172 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to make it. You know. I played with 173 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: guys like Junior Sea, Mark Carrier, you know, guys have 174 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: played a long time and had were touted from day one. 175 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: You know, I go back and meet meet my guys 176 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: from SC and there and they just, you know, they 177 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: still can't believe it all these years later. Like that, 178 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: I was the guy. I was the guy who went 179 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: that long. But that was kind of where the pride was. 180 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: You know. For me. I got a couple of you know, 181 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: inner mantras that I kind of go through, and one 182 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: of them just why not me, you know, and why 183 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: why can't I be that guy? You know, whether it's 184 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: like I said, the acting or the NFL. But yeah, 185 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: that was a huge source of pride that I was 186 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: able to kind of put myself in a place where, 187 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: especially after year six seven eight, I was known as 188 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 1: a guy who could come in, learn the system right away, 189 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 1: be a smart enough guy to kind of play a 190 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: couple of different positions and be valuable to a team, 191 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: whether it was starting or not. You know, I started 192 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: only so many games under one hundred, but I probably 193 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: doubled that in games I played three quarters or more 194 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: because I could come in and back up like that. 195 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 2: And so I think your starts were like forty six 196 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: or forty eight. 197 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: Man I said I was closer to one hundred. What 198 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: the hell? No, you're right, okay, whatever. 199 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 3: Shotowing No, but he played in like one hundred and sixty, 200 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy something. 201 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: So it's like, like I said, yeah, I doubled that 202 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: in probably games I played at least a half or more, 203 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: you know, So when you think of it that way, 204 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: I was valuable in much more ways than just being 205 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: that starter guy. And so yeah, that was a huge 206 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: source of pride for me that I was able to 207 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: do it and do it well for for. 208 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 3: A long time talking about pride, and this is kind 209 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 3: of off the subject and going back a little bit, 210 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 3: I read that you know, you were standing by Dick 211 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 3: Vermill when London. 212 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: Fletcher tackles Kevin Dison. 213 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 3: Yes, right, boom, you win the game, emotional, everybody's happy, 214 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 3: you celebrating, and then you're in Carolina. I'd like to 215 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 3: know maybe where were you standing when all of a sudden, 216 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 3: Tom Brady drives him all the way down. 217 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: And now looking back. 218 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 3: On it, tom Brady when he did that then was 219 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 3: not tom Brady that we know And sit here and 220 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 3: I'm looking at right here today, does it give you 221 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 3: any type of emotion knowing that Tom Brady has become 222 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 3: who he's become, and like maybe you're like, you know 223 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 3: what it was just we were just in the and 224 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 3: we had no idea. 225 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: Well, it was the beginning of his legacy, you know, 226 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: it really was. And that was a heartbreaking loss, man, 227 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: because I tell you what you know, as you guys know, 228 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: when you the further you get and and when you 229 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: when you have those kind of teams that get to 230 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: the super Bowl and teams that do well no matter what, 231 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: you have this camaraderie and this sort of closeness for 232 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: the team that you that you reach and that year 233 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: came out of nowhere. First game, Rodney Peat gets hurt. 234 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: Who's our starter? Jake Delum comes in sort of the 235 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: same feeling with the Rams, you know, where Kurt Warner 236 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: came in. So the expectations were low and to have 237 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: those kind of seasons were so high that that that, 238 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: But I remember I was actually on the field goal 239 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: block team when when their kicker, Terry thank You, kicked 240 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: the winning kick. There's a picture of me putting my 241 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: hand up with the ball going right over it as 242 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: he's kicking the winning field goal. So, you know, heartbreak 243 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: is the word that I think of. But again, yeah, 244 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: to look back on it and say, well, that was 245 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: really the beginning of the staple of that legacy of 246 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: Toel Brady, Man of the Goat. So it's pretty nuts. 247 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 3: So I got thirteen, you got eleven. 248 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 2: Fourteen. 249 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 3: I know for me, my body started to I guess 250 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 3: shut down on trema acio my last year. So at 251 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 3: that point in time, I knew it was time to retire. 252 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 3: What point in your career did you know it was 253 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 3: time to walk away from the game. 254 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: I had some knee injuries that were not major, but 255 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: they were kind of they were adding up, you know, 256 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: I was bone on bone on both of them, and 257 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: things where I just couldn't you know, there's an alignment. 258 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: If you can't bend your knees and get low, especially 259 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: when you're six eight, Yeah, there's a problem. So I 260 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: think it was sort of the last year when I 261 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: was spending so much time in the training room, and 262 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: you guys know how that goes. You know, at the end, 263 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: you're just spending so much effort just trying to get 264 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: out to practice sometimes and you know, I don't know 265 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: about you guys, but even you know, year fifteen, I 266 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: was thinking, man, I hope someone calls. You know. I 267 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: wasn't sure what what what what my status would be, 268 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,599 Speaker 1: but I would say right around year twelve, I was 269 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: kind of doing nothing, just doing a simple little drill 270 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: sort of blew my meniscus and tore it, you know. 271 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: And so that was when I kind of started to 272 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: really kind of wonder how many more years I got left? 273 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 2: And you still squeaked out another and I. 274 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: Still squeaked out another two, and I'm feeling it, and 275 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: I'm feeling it. 276 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 2: You don't look like it. 277 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 3: You walked in right, you ever crossed your leg. A 278 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 3: lot of people can't do that, even do that. You 279 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 3: can't do that. 280 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 2: I know. 281 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: Well, flexibility was a big thing for me too, clearly. 282 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 3: So tell me this though you were doing some TV 283 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 3: and early you know, interviewing and like analysts work when 284 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 3: you were playing. 285 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I started out. I started out. I hate the 286 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: interrupt you, but. 287 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 2: No, no, it's fine. I just want to know. Was 288 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 2: that always part of the plan? Did you know? 289 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: It was not? 290 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 2: It was not because it led to acting. 291 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: I'll start with when I in my career, I was thinking, 292 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: you know, football analyst, football guy, or or let's try 293 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 1: the acting. But before that even started, Yeah, I was 294 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: hosting radio and TV shows. You know, we all know 295 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: we get those. Back then it was radio. You know, 296 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: you do radio shows like with the Lineman kind of thing, 297 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: Matt Willie with you know, with the old Line kind 298 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 1: of stuff. And I started doing that, then started hosting 299 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: and being part of the forty nine ers weekly stuff, 300 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: you know, things like that, where I just got comfortable 301 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: being in front of the camera and had a little 302 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: bit of a I don't know a personality. 303 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: You do have a person out. You have a good 304 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 2: person out. 305 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: Thank you, brother, I appreciate you. But yeah, that's how 306 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: it started. And then had a friend who had an 307 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: agent in the business who dealt with a lot of 308 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: ex athletes, and so right around year in fact, it 309 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: was just after we had won the Super Bowl with 310 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: the Rams, I ended up doing a commercial so I 311 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: got I got into the acting thing, and I booked 312 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: my first commercial. 313 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: What was the commercial? 314 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: It was the commercial with Terrell Davis and Kurt Warner 315 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: for Campbells soup and I played it, you know, I 316 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: played an offensive lineman for the Rams Easy Giver. But 317 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: so I was doing that, you know, my last three 318 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: or four years in the NFL. I was doing it 319 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: every off season. I'd go and I'd do three or 320 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: four commercials, you know, and started having instant success. And 321 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: so that's when I kind of thought, you know, let's 322 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: give this a shot and see what happens. So that's 323 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: kind of how it started. 324 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 2: Did you get any free soup after the commercial? 325 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: They didn't tried you after about seven hours of its 326 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: city of it sitting around. 327 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 3: That's the best thing about it, man, I'd have got 328 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: all the free soup I wanted. So was it hard 329 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 3: getting into the like the acting bug? Like what made 330 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 3: you want to get into acting itself? 331 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: Though? 332 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 3: Like I know, we do radio, we do TV, that's 333 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 3: kind of the typical thing for us to do when 334 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 3: we retire, and. 335 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 2: Commercial playing offensive linement that's not really different. 336 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I'm curious, like how did you get into 337 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 3: like that? What was that first big role like for 338 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 3: you to get into character makeup, crying not crying emotional. 339 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: I'm the fifth of six boys, and I was always 340 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: looking for attention. That's kind of where it starts. 341 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 2: Okay. 342 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: You know, when you're this big, you're always just kind 343 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: of you take on that personality of kind of being 344 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: the jokester guy. And I was that guy. I was 345 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: that guy in the NFL. I was the guy who 346 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: kept things loose, kind of always had that sort of 347 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: goofy personality. And that's kind of how it started. I 348 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: got with an acting coach and worked for first couple 349 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: of years just to see where I was at. Yeah, 350 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: and Stuart Robinson, I'll never forget him. He again. He 351 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: dealt a lot of ex athletes and he told me 352 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: right away. He's like, man, he goes, you've got something, 353 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: You've got it. You have a kind of a fearless 354 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: attitude about things where you have these instincts, and a 355 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: lot of times instincts will carry you for a while, 356 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. If you just kind of 357 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: think you know what you're talking about, you can take 358 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: it till you make it. Yeah, and I did that, 359 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: I'm telling you. And I was lucky enough to have 360 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: some good roles and get some good things where they fit. 361 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: Now again, being my heights man, there's only certain roles 362 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: that you're good for, right, you know, I'm not going 363 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: to play the leading guy. I'm not going to So 364 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: it was a lot of bad guys. It was a 365 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: lot of things that to me seemed easy. You know, 366 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: it's only when you get into the heavy dialogue and 367 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: things like that where you got to really show emotion, 368 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: where where you decide whether or not you know you 369 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: got what it takes. And again it's little steps man, 370 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: as you guys know, you know, you take these little 371 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: steps climbing that ladder to figure out how far you 372 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: can go. And so I was doing that and it 373 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: was working for me. 374 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: So by you being so high at a man of 375 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: your stature, being six eighty six y nine, and you 376 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 2: can only play so many roles, do you is that 377 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 2: a little discouraging you being Was it called type casting? Yeah? 378 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 3: You know, I don't want to be the bad guy 379 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 3: all the time. I want to be the lover, not 380 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 3: the fire specifically the. 381 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: Bad guy for sure. You know. I like playing guys 382 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: who are a little different and have some emotion, and 383 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: that was cool to kind of get to a place 384 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: where I was playing some of those guys. But it 385 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: takes time. You know, Hollywood loves the type cast. It's 386 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: been said for years and years and years, and it's 387 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: true because they like you the way you fit, you know, 388 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: and it's only when you do. I was able to 389 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: do a couple of independent things, you know, things that 390 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: were lower budget where you can kind of get out 391 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: and do your own thing, where you kind of you 392 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: put that on a reel, you know, you show other 393 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: people things like that where where they finally start to go, Okay, 394 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: He's got some chops. It's been one of the coolest 395 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: things about acting has been some of the little responses 396 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: from people that I that I admire or respect, who 397 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: have said, you know, Matt's got some chops. Matt's got 398 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: some acting ability. And for a guy who kind of 399 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: came up the way I did just being an act 400 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: a ball player, that means a lot to me too. 401 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 3: So I've done one movie in my entire life, and 402 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 3: I did I did this. I did The Sharknado. May 403 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 3: the Fourth be. 404 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: Witchy that the respect level just bounce, man. 405 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 3: I saw, Yeah, I had like one line and I 406 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 3: have no design to be an actor whatsoever. But the 407 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 3: dude reached out and I was like, well, yeah, whatever, 408 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 3: I'll do it. Didn't read the script till I got there, Like, 409 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 3: I totally was not prepared. Wish I had had an 410 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 3: acting coach or whatever. But anyway, I guess my question 411 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 3: is what does an acting coach do? Like, what could 412 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 3: an acting coach teach you? Like, what do you do? 413 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 3: I know, football drills, I do certain drills to get 414 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 3: me in my feet, right hand drive, whatever, Like what 415 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 3: do you do as an acting coach? 416 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: I'll give you a great example early on, because I'm 417 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: sort of a handsy guy who likes to kind of 418 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: talk like this. Sometimes I was doing that as an 419 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: actor and he would say, plant your feet and stop moving, 420 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: be still, And that was one of the earliest lessons 421 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: I learned, was to be still where you are and 422 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: you don't realize how much you kind of move around 423 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: and do things, especially if i'm you know, you're someone 424 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: like me who did until you kind of realize what 425 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: you're doing and stop doing it or start doing something 426 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: like that, then you know that's that's some of the 427 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: real keys. It's the minimalization of things that you do. 428 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: You know, just eye movement as opposed to shaking your 429 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: head and making a face or things like that that 430 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: really make the difference between kind of being that's just 431 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,959 Speaker 1: a guy who does it sometimes, or a guy who 432 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: can kind of elevate himself into that next level of acting, 433 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: which again, man, if there's eighty levels of acting ability, 434 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: I'm on you know, the top, I'm on the first ten. 435 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: You know, I got so much further to go. But again, 436 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: those are some of the things that you do. It's 437 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: amazing to be able to see yourself. Just like when 438 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: we're when we're balling, you know, you think you're doing 439 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: something right, and then you watch tape or film and 440 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: you go, I didn't realize I did that. Yeah, you know, 441 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: and it kind of takes film sometimes to be able 442 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: to see what you're doing wrong. Right. It's the same 443 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: with acting. You know, you're able to see the little 444 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: things that you can kind of change moving forward. And again, 445 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: like I said early on, man, being just being still 446 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: and being kind of planted where you are it was 447 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: a huge thing. 448 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 3: So I mean that's got to be huge for you, 449 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 3: you know, especially with your stature, right, you can already 450 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 3: be a little bit overbearing compared to probably your your 451 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 3: co actors. 452 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 2: Besides you, You're going to be way bigger. 453 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 3: We don't need you flailing arms, right, this it takes 454 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 3: away from what you're actually saying. Is that where they 455 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 3: were trying to give you that that's one of the 456 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 3: biggest advices for you. I'm sure, and somebody may tell 457 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 3: me something completely different, but we all have to accept it. 458 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 2: I really love that part of it. The other part, 459 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 2: what I. 460 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 3: Really want to know is what's the difference between like 461 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 3: a low budget, like independent independent film like budget like 462 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,719 Speaker 3: be able to tell the average person I've never been 463 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 3: on the set, like break that down from me, like 464 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 3: one of the biggest differences because like I think I know, 465 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 3: but I don't know it all. 466 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: To say all these things with and being delicate, I 467 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: don't want to offend anybody out there and then they 468 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, right, is it to be? 469 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:56,719 Speaker 2: Is it like to be low budget? 470 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 1: It's Here's what it is. Number one. It's obviously money. 471 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: Money that they invest in actors, that they invest in, sets, 472 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: that they invest in the ability to shoot somewhere a 473 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: lot of times, just you know, being able to pay 474 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: for a spot to shoot is important, you know, So 475 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: all those things. It's it's across the board. I would say, 476 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: number one, the level of acting is you know, the 477 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: actor that you're going to get on a higher budget 478 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: obviously is something. But again sometimes when you get with 479 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: the right crew I did. I did a movie called 480 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: The Employer with Malcolm McDowell in a cast of about 481 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: four or five people. Where very low budget, but you 482 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: knew right away coming in these are high level actors 483 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: that are just kind of doing you know. And I'll 484 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: say another thing is script. The script, Well, when you 485 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: get a good script that you know it's it's going 486 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 1: to be something. A lot of times when you get 487 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: in those lower budgets just a little suspect and lacks 488 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: a little bit, you know. And but a lot of 489 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: times you have the ability to play with that script 490 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: a little bit, yeah, to kind of to kind of 491 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: to make things right, or you can see the writings 492 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: not good and things like that. It's like I said, 493 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 1: it's it's hard to answer because, like I said, across 494 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: the board, it's just always a little bit lower that 495 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: the lower level of of of everything. 496 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 3: So I know a couple like I don't know how 497 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 3: far a few years back, though you were you were 498 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 3: at a gym you were was it an Equinox gym? 499 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 3: And you're working out and you you happen to run 500 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 3: into the rock and you guys have this brief moment 501 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 3: conversation and you asked him for some advice because you 502 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 3: were trying. 503 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 2: To get into the acting. 504 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 3: What was that advice and how has that helped you 505 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 3: with your career thus far? 506 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: It was interesting because it was very specific. I didn't 507 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: being fully aware of not overstepping your bounds with with 508 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: someone like that, you know, it's kind of important. So 509 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 1: we were working out for a couple of weeks and 510 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: and we we'd just do some sets together, nothing big. 511 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: And I had a movie coming out called Year One, 512 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: which was kind of my first big movie that I 513 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: had done Michael Sarah Jack Black. Yeah, and there was 514 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: some instances I wasn't invited to the New York premiere, 515 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: and so it was very specific about, hey man, what 516 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: do you think what angle should I take in sort 517 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: of putting myself in there, you know, and forcing myself 518 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: in there and looking back at it now, Dwayne was 519 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: the perfect guy because Dwayne has forced himself into a 520 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: lot of things, you know, to make himself you know, 521 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: one of the greatest that we have today. And he 522 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: was very honest about things and kind of gave me 523 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: that sort of advice that was, you know, push your 524 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: way through, man, don't don't say no, don't let know 525 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: be an answer, don't let them tell you you can't 526 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: go somewhere, things like that. And so that was cool. 527 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: You know, it was cool just to have that and 528 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: kind of keep it light and simple. And he was 529 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: very cool about it. And he ended up kind of 530 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 1: very soon after that, kind of getting his own gym 531 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: and you know, kind of going private and uh, I'd 532 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: see him from time to time where he would come 533 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: up and give me some love and say now and 534 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: one day, man, we'll work together one day and to 535 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: kind of come full circle and have it be with 536 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: Young Rock and have it be his story, uh, and 537 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: play a guy that he considered basically his uncle. You know, 538 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: he used to call him uncle Andrea as a kid. 539 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: So that's kind of kind of a neat, little full 540 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: circle moment. 541 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 3: So I just want to briefly talk about your role 542 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 3: in Young Rock when you when you play Andre the Giants. 543 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 3: For for those listening and watching Andre the Giant, it 544 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 3: was about was he seven seven feet tall. 545 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 2: He weighed about five. 546 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 3: I mean every wrestler, they get taller every time they 547 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 3: announce their names. 548 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: It was one of them. 549 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 3: I remember watching him as a kid, and uh, I 550 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 3: remember one HAULK Hogan, but the body was my ever 551 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 3: lasting mine at like six years old, that moment right there, 552 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 3: haul Cogan, I was like, yo, he is a truth, 553 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 3: he is the deal. Now you don't look like you 554 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 3: four hundred and fifty pounds. What all did you have 555 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 3: to do? What did your body have to do to 556 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 3: become that player? And I like to hear too, you 557 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 3: I like the little curls. 558 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't even my hair. 559 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: And so that was that's the transformation I needed to make, 560 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: you know, when I when I booked it, it was 561 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: funny because they never even said to me, hey, we 562 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: want you to gain weight or we want you to 563 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: kind of get into that sort of mode that would 564 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: look like andre. They booked me at, you know, basically 565 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: kind of what I weigh now, maybe even a little less. 566 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: I'm about three and I'm like two ninety five, and 567 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: I was probably a little bit less. But I took 568 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: upon myself to gain thirty pounds for the first year, 569 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: and you know it was it was just about being 570 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: soft and having that Andre look after that it was 571 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: you know, it's facial mannerisms. It's things like that that 572 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: you got to really look at. I studied everything that 573 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: he did, and then once you put that wig and 574 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: the different outfits on, it sort of transforms you. But yeah, 575 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: the weight was the biggest thing because I really wanted 576 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: to feel that, and you know, when you're on camera, 577 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: everything adds, and so being three hundred and thirty pounds 578 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: six ' eight it transforms into seven foot four hundred 579 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: and fifty, you know really, So yeah, it was a 580 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: grueling grind to kind of keep that weight on where 581 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: everybody else was. All the other wrestlers were losing weight 582 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: and trying to look as good as they could, you know, 583 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: getting them n abs going. I was like, hey, let's 584 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: go and have some lunch, you know, let's go eat 585 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: another burger. And so that was kind of funny, but 586 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: it was I took it really seriously, you know, because 587 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: I didn't want to. This guy is iconic. The is 588 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: iconic even if you don't know wrestling, you know, Princess Bride, 589 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: the movie he did, and so there was a there 590 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: was a great responsibility honestly to kind of do it right, 591 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: kind of have a lot of respect for it. You know, 592 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: even though it's a show where they're going to dramatize 593 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: things and kind of make make some stuff up and 594 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: to make it a show, it was really important kind 595 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: of for me to make it believable, respectful, you know, 596 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: and and make it so that people who knew Andre 597 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: back in the day. That was one of the biggest 598 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,719 Speaker 1: things that I had since sources of pride. You know, 599 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: as the show was going on, was people were coming 600 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: to me who knew Andre and saying, man, kind of uncanny. 601 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 1: You know, some of the things that you're doing remind 602 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 1: me of Andre, and so a lot of respect for that. 603 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 3: So I got one question for you before we move 604 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 3: on to the next one is all right, so when 605 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 3: you're saying you're watching film on Andre Andrea giant, like, 606 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 3: how much film do you watch? I know, when we 607 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 3: say watch film, we watch like football, but like, how 608 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 3: much film do you really watch? 609 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: I watched every every interview Andre did at least twenty 610 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: twenty five times, and there wasn't that many. There were 611 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: different points in his life where he spoke less good English. 612 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: Yeah right, you know, then he started to learn a 613 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: little more. Uh then he became heavier, even heavier when 614 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: he was older, and he kind of had you and 615 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: the more. My biggest thing was I would oh, you 616 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: almost did it. I know, I know what I said, 617 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 1: the tongue want you dead in the tongue. You know, 618 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: you make the tongue as big as you can, so 619 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: you with everything is got Oh yeah, So that's kind 620 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: of where I started that and it was, uh yeah, 621 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: that was kind of where it started. And then again 622 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: just to kind of make a point when I was 623 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: when I came in and I had so much confidence 624 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: going back to that that I was that I could 625 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: do it. I was almost and I don't want to 626 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: be respect disrespectful to the executive producers, but they let 627 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: me do some things. You know, they said, hey, we 628 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: trust you enough to where if you want to make 629 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: these choices or these things. You know, sometimes I would say, hey, 630 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: Andre wouldn't wear this, you know, or Andre wouldn't have 631 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: done this. The first season, you go back to that 632 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: WrestleMania three incident with Hulkgan. They wanted me to wear 633 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: that black singlet, which he's very famous for, but he 634 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: never wore it. Early on he only wore kind of 635 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: at a certain point in his career. They wanted me 636 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: to wear it the first season, and I kind of said, hey, 637 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: Andre wouldn't have worn this before the time, and they 638 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: respected me enough to say, okay, we get it, you know, 639 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: and they would change it up little things like that. 640 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: That kind of along the way allowed me to kind 641 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: of have some real good say over the character, which 642 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: was really cool. 643 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 2: And you wouldn't know that unless you watched in. 644 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 3: Study the film. That's so important. Yeah, My other thing 645 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 3: is how does that make you feel? Do you feel 646 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 3: like closer to the rock because it's it's really like 647 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 3: a part of his story, a part of his life. 648 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 3: Do you feel closer in that way knowing that he 649 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 3: was kind of that person that kind of gave you 650 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 3: confidence in this lane, right like because we all got 651 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 3: to have somebody to believe in us or teller's at 652 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 3: some point like man, like you can do this, it's okay, 653 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 3: to believe that it's okay. And how does that maybe 654 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 3: emotionally take you in a place or or have you 655 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 3: ever just wrapped your head around all of that? 656 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: You know, I have, And it's a trip because I 657 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: look back on even the first day that I auditioned 658 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: for Andre the Giant for it, and knowing that it 659 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,239 Speaker 1: was Dwayne's story and knowing that it was you know 660 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: that he was going to be looking at that and 661 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: seeing my audition and stuff, and there was a sense 662 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: of kind of calmness about it. There was a sense 663 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: of he knows me, He's going to know more about me. Yeah, 664 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: and I kind of had that little confidence about, yeah, 665 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: let's do this. I ended up talking to to the 666 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: executive producer of the show runner of the show, Nanatchka Khan, 667 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: and she was there for my audition, and she told 668 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: me later on, you know, when I walked in with 669 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: this confidence, they almost knew instantly that I was. 670 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 2: No. 671 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: You don't get me wrong. I needed to fit the 672 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: bill physically, and I came in speaking French, which threw 673 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: them for a loop. They actually asked me if I 674 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: knew French fluently, But yeah, there's no say I used 675 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: that sort of that, you know, looking back on that 676 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: same feeling that he gave me, I used that on 677 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,959 Speaker 1: my audition and and knew instantly, and sure enough they 678 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: told me later on that they do right away that 679 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: I was going to be there. 680 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 2: Andre Number one French is a beautiful language. How do 681 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 2: you know French? 682 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 3: You can't just you can't just drop that, Yeah, I 683 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 3: don't know French. 684 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: I was able to learn a couple of lines in 685 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: the dialogue that they had and speak it in a way. 686 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: That's another thing that I sort of have the ability 687 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: to do, is is I have the ability to to 688 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: give accents. I can learn them pretty quickly. And I've 689 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: been able to play some characters Russian or kind of 690 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: an Eastern European or in this case having a French accent. 691 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: And don't get it wrong, I got with a French 692 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: dialect coach and she helped me later on. But I 693 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,239 Speaker 1: was able to fake it just enough that audition and 694 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: do it well where they was like, damn, you can 695 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: speak French to you like I will, I will what 696 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: I need to you know? So so yeah. 697 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 2: Do you think you mimic? How you hear it? 698 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 3: Because Trevor Nor he he's real big into traveling and 699 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 3: learning on the languages, right, and he goes the biggest 700 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 3: difference with learning language is why it's easier for kids 701 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 3: to learn language, because kids they don't mind making a 702 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 3: fool of themselves because they can just mimic it. So 703 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 3: I'm not saying I'm an expert at mimicking people, but 704 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 3: when I imitate or if I'm telling a joke or whatever, 705 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 3: I kind of mimic what I hear. So do you 706 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 3: think that's kind of what? 707 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: That's where it starts. And with every language that you 708 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: try to mimic or have an accent with, there's always 709 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: four or five key things or key words that you'll 710 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: hear from either someone with a French accent or someone 711 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: with an Irish accent, or someone with an Eastern European 712 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: accent that you recognize. You know that you can go, Okay, 713 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: that sounds legit because those are words they would change 714 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: or not be able to change. You know, they wouldn't 715 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: use certain vowels, stuff like that. You know, as trivial 716 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: as it sounds, those are the things that kind of 717 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: are important. And again going back to having the skills 718 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: as a as a next level actor, those are the 719 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: things you kind of do. 720 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 3: I'm making all the connections here because you were like 721 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 3: a young kid. You said, like making fun of myself. 722 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 3: This is kind of like being the big guy and 723 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 3: just trying to make it easy on everybody. Pi's like No, 724 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 3: that's how you actually learn how to make and actually 725 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 3: sound like other languages as well. That's you know, you're 726 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 3: putting all these things to put yourself out there. Got 727 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 3: to be able to put yourself out there. 728 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: You can look at every comedian and they have the 729 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: ability to do that. Yes, speaking seventeen different you know 730 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: sort of characters or whatever. It's that same mentality. It's 731 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: that same kind of Again I said, I was the 732 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: fifth of six boys. You know, you're always looking for attention. Yeah, 733 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: and so it's those kinds of things that I always 734 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: sort of used and had at my disposal to kind 735 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: of you know, used to lighten situations or whatever, you know, 736 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: kind of make myself in a in a relationship with somebody. 737 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,959 Speaker 2: We're gonna take a short break and we'll be right back. 738 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 2: I want to ask you about what it was like when. 739 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 3: When you were playing in playing the role in the 740 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 3: movie Concussion. 741 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 2: It was were you ever? 742 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 3: It was a very deep dive and I was actually 743 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 3: nervous as a football player to watch the movie. I 744 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 3: just used to stay away from it. I still have 745 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 3: not watched it because you have not. No, I just 746 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 3: I just kind of stayed away from it because I 747 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 3: was always so nervous, like, is it going to be 748 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 3: insight into my own life? I should probably be okay 749 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 3: to do it now because I've been retired for six 750 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 3: years and I work on TV. I don't have any 751 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 3: injuries mentally or brain injuries. 752 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: That I know of. 753 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 2: So but enough about me, But back to you. Were 754 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 2: you ever emotionally drained? 755 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 3: How did this movie affect you internally, emotionally, mentally, spiritually 756 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 3: playing the role that you had to play, and also 757 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 3: maybe talk about the preparation going into it. 758 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, I know all those things. Man. I again 759 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: talking about taking a role seriously and really kind of 760 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: having in connection with it. So I played Justin Strelzik, 761 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: who was a former NFL lineman who ended up taking 762 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: his life, many believe because of CTE. I met with 763 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: his widow. That was the first thing I wanted to do, 764 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 1: and even before that, got in touch with her where 765 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: she sent me a box full of his drawings, his writings, 766 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: his music. He was a real eclectic guy where he 767 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: played the guitar and kinda he wrote. He wanted to 768 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: be an actor, honestly, and so there was all these 769 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: things that where he would write, and so she sent 770 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: me a whole bunch of stuff. So getting into that 771 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 1: part of it was really huge, kind of getting into 772 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: a mindset of that downward spiral that one would go through, 773 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: because like you, I'm lucky enough, and I think it's 774 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: part of what we why we do this. I think 775 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 1: keeping the brain active and motivated is a huge factor. 776 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: So that was it. And then when I got out 777 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh, we shot in Pittsburgh, met with the widow 778 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: and his family. It's funny because they have a son 779 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: named Justin, who was born on the same day I 780 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: was born. They ended up. I said I was going 781 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: to ride a motorcycle, which he rode. I said, is 782 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,760 Speaker 1: there any way to get his motorcycle? His son had 783 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: his motorcycle that he rode, and so I learned how 784 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: to ride because I hadn't never I had ridden, but 785 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,280 Speaker 1: he had a big hat. He had a big Harley, 786 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: and so I needed some practice. Anyways, learn learned how 787 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: to do that. And it was all these little things 788 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 1: that I'm telling you, like just like I'm talking about before, 789 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: the little things that kind of make and put yourself 790 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: into a position where you're ready to rock when it 791 00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,720 Speaker 1: comes time. My scenes were emotional, the actors that played 792 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: his widow or his wife at the time. We cried 793 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 1: for ten hours doing a scene just to stay in 794 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: that moment, that place where you know, there's a scene 795 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: where I get violent and ended up leaving, and I 796 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: remember it distinctly between scenes us holding hands, there's two 797 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: actors who had just met a couple of days ago 798 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: holding hands, trying to hold back tears because of this 799 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: of the seriousness, severity, the the you know, the the 800 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: climactic sort of heat that was going on on scene. 801 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: I ended up choking her in a scene which it 802 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: wasn't in the in the script, which scared the hell 803 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: out of her, scared me because the director wanted me 804 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: to do it, so again going back, kind of cutting, 805 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: cutting through. Uh. It was those things kind of that 806 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: that put me in that in that space to kind 807 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: of maybe feel where what he might have been feeling. 808 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 1: But the whole concept of CT and things like that 809 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 1: kind of again, you walk in with this idea that 810 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: I need to kind of take take this serious as 811 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 1: because I'm part of it. Yeah, I could be living 812 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 1: this right right. He knows, you know, I've known guys. 813 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: I played with Junior s, I roomed with junior Seal, 814 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: another linebacker Scott Ross who was a big time player 815 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: at S see my Times. He ended up taking his 816 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 1: life and they found CT. So I've been around it, 817 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 1: I've seen it, and so yeah, man, it was. It 818 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: was a heavy deal and I had so much again 819 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: going back to even like with andre, I had so 820 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 1: much pride kind of getting involved in it and being 821 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: a part of it. And uh so it was. It 822 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: was pretty cool, all right. 823 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 3: Tell me this though, one last thing to finish that up. 824 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 3: How do you get back out of playing such a 825 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,919 Speaker 3: serious role where you've been involved with the family, you've 826 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,439 Speaker 3: met with the widow, you ride the bike, you see 827 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 3: all these things so intimate, Like you're saying, you whole 828 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 3: hands crying. Yeah, such a serious moment of it. How 829 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 3: do you get back out of that? And like, okay, 830 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 3: drugs an alcohol? Yeah, can I say that? 831 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 2: I mean it, I mean I appreciate that. 832 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: No again, I think to me, going back to CT 833 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: real quick, I think that part of the issue with 834 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: a lot of guys, this is just my opinion only, 835 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 1: is that they have pre existing conditions. I think that 836 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: a lot of them have these dual personalities. They're ups 837 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: and their downs. Are really high. So that kind of 838 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: comes with the territory. I've always been one who has 839 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 1: always sort of looked at things from the comical side 840 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: of things. 841 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 4: M h. 842 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: So I kind of that for me is a great 843 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: way to pull back is to have some comedy with 844 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: things and kind of keep things light. And again, I 845 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: was there for maybe a couple of weeks while I 846 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: was shooting and then sort of taking yourself out of 847 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: that situation. I had a huge beard that was justin's. 848 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 1: You know that I that I that I grew, shaved 849 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: that off, you know, you just changed the whole personas 850 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: There's all sorts of things like that that I would 851 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: do that It would put me back into the Matt 852 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 1: Willig mode, you know, or you go home and you know, 853 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: slapping some kids around. I'm joking, of course, but being 854 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 1: a parent, you know, we'll let you take you out 855 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: of that and all sorts of things like that to 856 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: kind of put you back where you need to be. 857 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 3: Okay, good, So we're gonna flip it. We're gonna get 858 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 3: into a couple of fun questions. Now me, I'm a 859 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 3: big movie guy. I love movies, seeing a ton of movies. 860 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 3: I probably go to movie about myself. I go all 861 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 3: the time, I'm the same guy. 862 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,879 Speaker 2: So we're the Millers. Yes, hilarious. 863 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 3: I probably watched it a month ago and just by chance, 864 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 3: now we meet you and we're doing this show. There's 865 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 3: a remember his daughter's in here, Nah, she's This is 866 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 3: a very good you could watch. 867 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 2: Your kids can watch this. I've seen the movie. I 868 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 2: know exactly where you're going. I know who he played. 869 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 2: So there's a there's a strip te scene. 870 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 3: In that part when you guys are in that warehouse 871 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 3: or whatever and they get called the cartel and all that. 872 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 2: So was she supposed to strip tease with you or 873 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,800 Speaker 2: did they cut that out twenty minutes before shooting the scene? 874 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 2: Is what I yes, was told twenty minutes of what 875 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,439 Speaker 2: I've read twenty minutes before the scene. Jennifer Amiston cancer. Well, 876 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 2: she don't know if she can. 877 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,320 Speaker 1: She didn't cancel. What happened was in the script. It's 878 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: that she comes over to my character and dances all 879 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: over me. And that was my first day of shooting. 880 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 1: So I'm there in the in the scene, so it 881 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: was kind of it was easy. But yeah, that was 882 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 1: a funny little moment of going, Man, I almost had 883 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: almost had Jennifer Aniston give me a lap dance. 884 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 2: I guess I. 885 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: Could have done anything got fired. I would have been happy. 886 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: That was the fun. By the way, that was a 887 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 1: fun movie to shoot, fun movie. 888 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:46,919 Speaker 2: It was a fun movie to watch. It's got the edits. 889 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 1: That's it's funnyuse when people see that, that's like people 890 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 1: have known me forever, kind of go, that's the Matt 891 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 1: Willie right, No, you know the guy kind of tickling 892 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 1: somebody at the end there. Yeah, that's a lot of fun. 893 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 2: What is what's been your favorite role that you've ever done? 894 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 2: Been and over sixty films and what sixty films? 895 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot, I would say, Andre just just for 896 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 1: the year fact that it's it was really close to 897 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: my heart kind of doing that and and and kind 898 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: of do it well and get some acclaim for it. 899 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: Was was pretty cool. 900 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 2: Now, were you a wrestling fan growing up? Did you 901 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 2: ever watch anything it was? 902 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't a huge wrest I know, I know, 903 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 1: I know. 904 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 2: Six boys, six boys. 905 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,800 Speaker 1: We would wrestle as big. 906 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,320 Speaker 2: As you are, Like they're not the rest. No driving 907 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 2: in the house. 908 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 1: No, never had never been to a show, didn't know 909 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: any of that. You know, I knew characters and things, 910 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,399 Speaker 1: but I was never a huge fan. 911 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 2: Your brother never put you in the Boston craft. 912 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: You just slapped and I was playing one of maybe 913 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 1: ten other guys in the in the in the shot. 914 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 1: But he took the time to kind of give me 915 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 1: some one on one and that he did not disappoint. 916 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 6: Man. 917 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: He was as cool as I thought he was. And 918 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: and so that was really that was a big. 919 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 2: One, all right. 920 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 3: And now I got to go off script now because 921 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 3: you just said something that now I have to know. Okay, 922 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,359 Speaker 3: you're talking about filming in Asia? All right, where is 923 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 3: the coolest place you've ever filmed? 924 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 2: Well? 925 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: The funny thing, we shot that here in the States, 926 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,800 Speaker 1: but it only showed over you know a lot of times. Yeah, 927 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 1: these big time actors will get paid a ton of 928 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 1: money to kind of do this. I think it was 929 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 1: for like a petroleum company or gas company. It was 930 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 1: the random something random. But they get paid a ton 931 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: of money to shoot these commercials that will never be 932 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 1: shown in the States. Where's the coolest place I'm shot? 933 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 1: Where have I been? God Lord? I would say year one. 934 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 1: This is a is another weird answer. Year one we 935 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,280 Speaker 1: shot in a place called White Sands, New Mexico. 936 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I've been there. I've driven through there before. 937 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a truck you're talking about literally White 938 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 1: Sands for miles. I remember. Because I'm a golfer, I 939 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,839 Speaker 1: ended up pulling out golf clubs. I'm just like a 940 00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 1: cave man. I'm pulling out golf clubs and hitting all 941 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 1: was like as far as I can. Yeah, So that 942 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 1: was one of the cool places. 943 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 3: We will be best friends because I'm a golfer too. 944 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 1: I just played Tory Pine the other day for the 945 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 1: first time in about fifteen years, and I had to 946 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,359 Speaker 1: shoot had a blast shot. In the eighties, both in 947 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 1: relationship wise. You know, my parents they were They were 948 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 1: the type of parents that never really showed. They didn't 949 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 1: fight in front of us, which to me was a 950 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 1: cool thing. I knew they would be mad at each other. 951 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 1: I knew they had our arguments and fights. He just 952 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 1: took the time to kind of go, hey, we're not 953 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 1: going to put this out there for for our kids. 954 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 1: For me, that was cool. The grind. They showed me 955 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: how to grind. My dad was a was a cop 956 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 1: and uh and worked a couple of jobs outside of that. 957 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 1: To raise six boys. He was being and angry because 958 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,399 Speaker 1: that's how he needed to be. But then I've I've 959 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 1: gotten to see the love in the last twenty years. 960 00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 1: But and my mom was a homegiver, home homemaker, but 961 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 1: she worked as well. But she was just the most 962 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 1: loving person that I that I know. Well, that's that's 963 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give that as one. I can fake it 964 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,839 Speaker 1: and give it too, but I'll try to keep it one. 965 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 1: I'll say my brother's number two, just because I, like 966 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 1: I said, I'm one of the youngest, and I've gotten 967 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,439 Speaker 1: to see my older brothers fail and succeed and and 968 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: and do it with with class and dignity. And my 969 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,359 Speaker 1: brothers are the coolest dudes I know. So I'll give 970 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 1: them one. 971 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 2: Glad you got a great relationship with them. 972 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I still want to kick their asses, but that's 973 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: but that's being a brother, right family man? After that, 974 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,359 Speaker 1: do I need anymore? Christian Catholic got to say, God, 975 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not always perfect by by far, but 976 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 1: when I'm in trouble and when I need some guidance, 977 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 1: I kind of get spiritual and I and I think 978 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:54,879 Speaker 1: of that. 979 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 2: I love it. 980 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: And and again I'm not trying to be cheesy. I'm 981 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 1: really not, because I'm kind of a I'm kind of 982 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 1: a do it yourself guy. But I'll say my kids last, man, 983 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 1: my two daughters have shown me how to be number one, 984 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 1: a good dad because you have to be. And even 985 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: though I screw up and do things wrong, you know, 986 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 1: they've they've kind of they keep me in check as 987 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 1: as kids will do. Yeah, she's over there. I had 988 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 1: to give her some love. Yeah, but it's true her 989 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,839 Speaker 1: and I are, We're good. We're best friends. I'll say 990 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: that we're best friends. And so yeah, man, it's family 991 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 1: for me. I'm not always, like I said, I'm not 992 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: always the best family guy. But when it comes down 993 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,359 Speaker 1: to it, I think it's the most important thing. 994 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 2: So that's awesome. Yeah, well, Matt Man appreciated. Man, I 995 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 2: think you're off the hot seat. Dude, you are off 996 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 2: the hot. 997 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 1: I hope I wasn't too boring. I hope it was just. 998 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 3: You're awesome again, a great personality. You have an affectious smile. 999 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: Thank you. 1000 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 3: You're a big gentle giant. 1001 00:46:59,600 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 1: Right here. 1002 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:01,920 Speaker 2: People. I don't even think people are going to get 1003 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 2: another wait till you stand up shirt. 1004 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I talk to mister Thomas right now, I loved 1005 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 3: all my white substitutes. 1006 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,919 Speaker 5: And we're good, all right, we're good. 1007 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,879 Speaker 2: Appreciate you know. Man. Thanks Matt man he look. Thank 1008 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 2: you for all our followers and listeners. 1009 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 3: As always man and like we always say, man, give 1010 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 3: us a rating review five star review. 1011 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 2: Tell a friend, to tell a friend, what Tell a friend? 1012 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 3: There it is and you know anywhere you get podcasts, 1013 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 3: what is Apple podcasts or iHeartRadio podcast Please tell a 1014 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:40,319 Speaker 3: friend and check us out for Peanut from Rome. That's wrong, 1015 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 3: that's Matt. That's Matt NFL player, Secment Podcast. We in 1016 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 3: l A and that's it. 1017 00:47:45,760 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 6: We out the toxicon 1018 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:03,759 Speaker 1: Box.