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Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Bob Guinea. I feel like I haven't seen you

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Speaker 2: in forever.

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Speaker 1: I know it.

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Speaker 3: I've been in Dallas, Texas hanging out. So yeah, we

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Speaker 3: got out of the Michigan cold this week. It's like

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Speaker 3: negative twenty five at my house. My wife is so

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Speaker 3: happy that I moved here from California to Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Oh I bet.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm just getting lock messages all over the place.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Well, thanks for the almost famous OG podcast for

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Speaker 2: bringing us back together. We're very excited to recap episode

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Speaker 2: three of Special Forces. I'm excited to hear your thoughts.

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Speaker 2: I have obviously some thoughts considering I could have been there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's part of it, right.

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Speaker 3: It seems like the intensity just got seriously ratcheted up,

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Speaker 3: like in a big.

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Speaker 1: Way, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like they do this. I think every

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Speaker 2: season they do the gas when you get gassed. They

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Speaker 2: don't do getting buried alive as a punishment. I don't

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Speaker 2: think I've ever seen that, but holy cow, that is.

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Speaker 2: You know, It's funny because being from reality television, I

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Speaker 2: know that anything that they ask you there will most

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Speaker 2: likely be using at some point, you know, during your experience,

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Speaker 2: and so of course they ask you what your worst

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Speaker 2: fears are, and open water is definitely the top fear,

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Speaker 2: but right probably next to it, or maybe underneath, is

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Speaker 2: being buried alife. So I didn't say anything, like I

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Speaker 2: literally didn't say to the producers that I was scared

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Speaker 2: going to use that and run with it, you know

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Speaker 3: So when they ask you these questions, when they when

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Speaker 3: they would ask you, like, what's your biggest fear? Were

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Speaker 3: sitting there silently waiting for you to come up with

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Speaker 3: what your biggest fear was? Because if if somebody asked

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Speaker 3: me that, I can honestly say, I don't know what

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Speaker 3: I would say, Like, I don't know what I was

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Speaker 3: at there. I'd be like, well, you know, I hate snakes,

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Speaker 3: I hate spiders.

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Speaker 1: There you go. I know what. I know what would

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Speaker 1: have happened to me? I guess it doesn't us come

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Speaker 1: off full circle, doesn't it? Well?

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Speaker 2: I also I think that I said this and this

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Speaker 2: and I still say it. I don't think you truly know.

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Speaker 2: Like when it came to Jordan, I got the pleasure

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Speaker 2: the podcast, and she did not know that she was

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Speaker 2: I feel like there are a lot of times when

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Speaker 2: you can guess if you're afraid, but really, until you

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Speaker 3: I'm sitting here getting like the shivers thinking about snakes

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Speaker 3: and spiders my fears.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, let's let's me. You know, you opened in.

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Speaker 3: My saying this, and I think it's really kind of true.

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Speaker 3: You know, you said, like I had a lot of

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Speaker 3: What if you were still there, like with that gas

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Speaker 2: So I have asthma. If anyone watched the first season,

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Speaker 2: Hannah Brown has asthma. She did not have to do

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Speaker 2: So I wouldn't have to make that decision. I think

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's next level, stop right.

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Speaker 2: Next level. I mean freaking Cam Newton literally ran away

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Speaker 3: You know, I can't help but think a que in

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Speaker 1: Everything, and when he was going through it, and you.

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Speaker 3: Think about, you know, obviously this is probably something he

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Speaker 3: I have to believe. I mean, we are watching some

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Speaker 3: I feel like I want to believe again, like when

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Speaker 1: But I just don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like your body starts feeling like

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Speaker 3: just total just a total otherworldly or out of body experience.

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Speaker 2: I I guess, you know, yeah, completely. I feel like

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Speaker 2: we can give kudos to the people. The two people

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Speaker 2: you know, other people said so too. They just it

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Speaker 2: But I don't like take away from any of the

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't take away from anybody who actually

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Speaker 1: You're you're doing so good. You're sticking in.

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Speaker 2: There, you know, And I was. And finally when I

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Speaker 2: And he was like, hey, listen, you know ninety nine

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Speaker 2: of yourself for actually signing up. So I give credit

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Speaker 2: hand you my number. They actually did it, so I

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Speaker 3: I thought, uh, I thought Cam's his uh mirror mirrored

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Speaker 3: room interview was really interesting, you know, after the you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I gotta be honest, I don't think of

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Speaker 3: myself as a control freak. But when I was thinking

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Speaker 3: and I, like, we're both used to doing things our

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Speaker 3: so we're both used to doing things our own way,

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Speaker 3: and that's that's the only time we ever really butt heads.

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Speaker 3: Is when I've got to design on how to do

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Speaker 1: On how to do something. It's different.

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Speaker 3: And usually I'll give in for the sake of argument.

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Speaker 3: You know, like a lot of times I dig I

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Speaker 3: Are you someone who feels like like do you And

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Speaker 3: I know it's different in relationships and it would be

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say control freak, but are you kind of

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Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, I mean I like to be in control.

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Speaker 2: I'm type A for sure. I like to plan. And

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Speaker 2: I mean Ryan and I were just driving somewhere to

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Speaker 2: it just it wasn't like I was being bossy. I

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Speaker 2: turn you know you're going to twenty five you whatever.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I do like being controlled. I in control.

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Speaker 2: I do not like feeling out of control. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: will say that on this show, you have to give

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Speaker 2: up control to the DS and in doing that, some people,

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Speaker 2: I feel like, maybe don't feel safe. But I always

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Speaker 2: I just did. I was a guest on the I

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Speaker 2: so there have been all these news article or people

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Speaker 2: kind of taking it out of context, and it's kind

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Speaker 2: of driving me crazy. But it's related to control, like

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Speaker 2: for reality shows. Anyone who's listening to this podcast, if

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Speaker 2: we all signed contracts. You basically have to sign your

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Speaker 2: life away. That's that's like the phrase that's used, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm sorry, but that's totally taken out

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Speaker 3: You know, when they come and pulling us out to parade,

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Speaker 2: I think it was the end of day six, So

435
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Speaker 2: they've been there for six days, and like what I did,

436
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 2: I felt like it was so much, but add in

437
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 2: a fight and the jump from the helicopter and the

438
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 2: guessing and the being buried alive, and like, oh my gosh,

439
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 2: so much more has gone on after I left, So

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Speaker 2: I totally get it.

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Speaker 1: Such a mental and physical toll.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, yeah, there at this point where

443
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, and and I forget who said

444
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Speaker 3: this to us. I think it was Christy Carlson actually

445
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 3: who said this, but uh, who's Carlson Romano? Sorry? I

446
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 3: remember her saying that her husband had told her that

447
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,719
Speaker 3: it's the mental is more important than the physical. Or

448
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 3: maybe he didn't say more important. I don't exactly remember

449
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 3: what he said exactly Harder, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's keep

450
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 3: it together mentally and you will make it through better

451
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 3: than if all you can do is keep it together physically. Right,

452
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Speaker 3: So I feel like, you know, that's got to be

453
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 3: such a big part of it because I'm you know,

454
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Speaker 3: I like to think that I'm not and I am sensitive,

455
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, but I like to think that

456
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 3: I can. I can block some stuff out, but I'm

457
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 3: still a pretty sense in person. But I would think

458
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 3: after a while of someone just barking up my tree,

459
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 3: I would get to the point where I'd be like, okay, enough,

460
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Speaker 3: Like I think I just lose my I would lose it,

461
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 3: totally lose my call. And you know, I think that's

462
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 3: where Cam was at. I think that, you know, because

463
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 3: it was like he's in survival mode. He's like, you know,

464
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 3: I feel like you're everyone's kind of at that breaking

465
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 3: point right now, and this is really when people start

466
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Speaker 3: falling off.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's like, really when people start even.

468
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Speaker 3: The most incredibly conditioned athlete you know, is losing his.

469
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Speaker 1: Mind right now.

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Speaker 3: So, you know, I think that that says something, you know,

471
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 3: it really does about how intense this training is for

472
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 3: those Marines and those Navy guys and everybody else.

473
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Speaker 2: I don't know, oh for sure.

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Speaker 1: Again, I like to think I could do it.

475
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

476
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Speaker 2: I also loved seeing I just I love the mirror

477
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: Room interviews because it really shows us a side of

478
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 2: these people that we've never known before, probably not like

479
00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 2: Carrie Hart talking about his brother and his dad, and

480
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 2: I just I love being able to really hear their stories.

481
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 2: Kylo's too, So I look forward to more of that.

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Speaker 2: What I want to know is, now that we've seen

483
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 2: episode three, who are your Are your predictions for who

484
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 2: will make it until the end still the same? Who

485
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 2: are you thinking?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think I think relatively the same. I mean I think, uh,

488
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 3: Carrie has proven himself to be, you know, like a beast,

489
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 3: you know, just that it really is, I mean, and

490
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 3: it's like watching him is kind of like, Okay, maybe

491
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 3: this is my horse, you know, But I still I

492
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 3: still think, you know, I mean, I still think they're

493
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 3: all you know, everyone that I mentioned before is still

494
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 3: up there.

495
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Speaker 1: But I'm starting to lean.

496
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 2: Who did you mention before? Remind me I.

497
00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 3: Had Cam, Carrie Brody and then Kayla. Yeah, it's really

498
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 3: interesting to me because now I feel like, you know,

499
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Speaker 3: and I also don't want to come off like I'm

500
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 3: not giving the women enough respect on this by the way,

501
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 3: So it's like that's that part is important to me too,

502
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 3: because I feel, you know, in the history of my

503
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 3: life anyway. All the women in my life are way

504
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 3: mentally and physically more capable than me.

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Speaker 1: Right, So I mean I'm not delivering a child, you know,

506
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: I'm not.

507
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 3: Going through, you know, all the trials and tribulations of

508
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 3: childbirth and everything else. And so I've always grown up

509
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 3: around strong women. I've always surrounded myself with strong women.

510
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 3: So you know, I don't want it to sound like

511
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 3: I'm not, but I just feel like Carrie is so.

512
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 2: Formidable and he's a great leader.

513
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he really is.

514
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 2: Like he encourages, like when he was encouraging Kyla, and

515
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: like when Cam was like back in it, He's like,

516
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 2: I'm glad you're back in it. Actually he said. I

517
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 2: Actually I texted the group too and said that was

518
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 2: great advice, Carrie, but I can't remember what he said.

519
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 2: Let's see, I have your moment. And then we got

520
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 2: a reset when Kayla was having a hard time, and

521
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 2: I said life advice for everyone, Carrie, like that, really

522
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 2: truly have your moment and reset. You know that is

523
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 2: great advice for anything in life. You know, you just

524
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 2: feel it. I've always felt like, don't push it down. Yeah,

525
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 2: feel the feels, feel it, get through it and then reset.

526
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 2: I thought that was really really great advice. So, yes,

527
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 2: he is, he's a beast.

528
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 3: You can tell he's someone who is who's probably practiced

529
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 3: what he preaches too, because all of his life experiences,

530
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 3: like you said, all the broken bones and everything else,

531
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 3: it's like he's had to go through it. And also,

532
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, let's be honest, I mean, his

533
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 3: life now is like I mean, like he said, he's like, well,

534
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 3: you know, a couple times a year, I'm I'm tour dad.

535
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: You know, I'm Pink.

536
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 3: And he's like, I'm used to being Pink's husband, you know,

537
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 3: and it's like she's she's known for being a strong

538
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 3: personality too, So he's I think, you know, he's in

539
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 3: that sick circumstance where he's probably got to go somewhere,

540
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 3: get himself composed, get back in it. He's probably had

541
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 3: to do that a bunch, you know, in his life,

542
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 3: especially from injuries and everything else. So yeah, I think

543
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 3: it's pretty remarkable.

544
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm.

545
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 3: Interested to see, you know, I'm interested to see what

546
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 3: happens in the next episode.

547
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: I mean, each one of these episodes is like a

548
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: quest for me.

549
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 3: It's like it's two hours of me just like going

550
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 3: through a battery of emotions. I don't know why I

551
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 3: get so emotional watching this show, Like I I just

552
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 3: feel like I'm like, especially in the mirrored rooms parts,

553
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 3: I like they come out of the mirro room.

554
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: I feel like these guys are my friends. I want

555
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: to be there for them.

556
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm just I'm buying the whole show

557
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 3: hook Line and Synker, I mean, I'm in it, you know,

558
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 3: And I'm.

559
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: I'm glad that I am because i haven't had a show.

560
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 3: I haven't had a show that I've been this compelled

561
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 3: to watch in a long time.

562
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: So it's been Yeah, it's been really great, you know.

563
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 3: And and I mean obviously because of you being on there,

564
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 3: but I think also just I really think this cast

565
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 3: is pretty spectacular and the different personalities and the different

566
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 3: levels of respect that I have for so many of them,

567
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 3: and you know, and so to see them come through

568
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 3: this whole thing is it's been pretty I'm gonna have

569
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 3: mad respect for whoever's left stand at the end, because

570
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 3: I got tons of respect for everybody else who hasn't

571
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 3: made it that far yet. So I just feel like

572
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 3: it's It's really going to be interesting to me to

573
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 3: see who does that.

574
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, same, I mean, I know, but I still want

575
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 2: to see their journeys, you know. I want to see

576
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 2: how it all, how it all plays out for everybody.

577
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: Well, I'm excited. I'm excited to be.

578
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: Watching I know, that's for sure. It is exciting. So

579
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: everybody can tune into Special Forces every night, every Wednesday

580
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: night on Fox and then starting the day after they

581
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: will be streaming the episode on Hulu. So you can

582
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 2: tune into all the episodes on Hulu right now. Thanks

583
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 2: for recapping. I know you have to go, but thanks

584
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: for listening to the almost famous OG podcast. Everybody. We

585
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: have some really great interviews coming up with Marion Jones.

586
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 2: I interviewed Rudy and Billy and that was you guys.

587
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: I literally told all of the recruits from the show

588
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: that they should have the DS do like their psychological

589
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 2: like you know, full circle interview at the end, because

590
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, it kind of gave me closure, Not that

591
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: I felt like I really needed it, but it kind

592
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: of gave me a little closier to like see them

593
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 2: smiling and happy and like laughing with me. I'm like, oh, okay, yeah,

594
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 2: I know. It was amazing. So I hope everyone listens

595
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 2: to those amazing interviews coming up, and hopefully we'll have

596
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 2: the rest of the cast on too.

597
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 3: So yeah, absolutely, well, thank you for making time for

598
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 3: me to be honest with you today. I was excited

599
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 3: to talk to you, and thanks everyone for listening. We

600
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 3: love having you guys as almost famous OG followers, so

601
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 3: thank you so much.

602
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: That's right, Okay, we'll have fun text this.

603
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: Bob, Thank you, I appreciate it.

604
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: You welcome