WEBVTT - Draft Show: Combine Invites & Social Media Insight 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:08.240 This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:11.440 on your war room for in center news and draft 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:15.600 analysis from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:20.640 the Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select Elliott and now 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:26.600 your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well, 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:29.960 well you welcome you to the SWBC Mortgage Studios for 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:33.279 the Draft Show once again on a Thursday. Glad you're 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:39.320 along with us. Eighty four days until the NFL Draft 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:41.640 be here before we know it, Boys, it will be. 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:44.559 It's harder to believe. Senior Bowl and januaries in the 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:46.879 in the rearview absolutely want to look forward to the 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:51.600 Combine and the workouts and everything else. It's Dan Burglar 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:54.080 right there, David Hellman on the other side, Kent Garrison, 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:57.680 Executive Producing. You brought up the Senior Bowl and we 0:00:57.840 --> 0:00:59.000 kind of put that in a little bit in the 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:02.520 rearview mirror. Let's talk about the combine a little bit. Yeah, 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:04.240 kind of on this you're on the you're on the 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:07.720 combine train. I am. All those all those uh invites 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:10.720 went out. We kind of have an idea who's in, 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:14.200 who's out right and the way they do it is 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:17.200 they send a mountain waves. Usually in the past it 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:20.080 was two waves, and there's three waves. They kind of 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:24.400 do it systematically, where you know, the first wave goes out, um, 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:28.080 you know, even before Christmas. Uh, and then when the 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:30.880 underclassmen come out, you know, they reserve a certain amount, 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:33.320 and then the third wave just went out. The final 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:35.400 wave at least I was told the final wave just 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:39.920 went out this week and surprising some names, um, you know, 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:43.720 following up some players that did not receive invites yet. 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:46.360 Now I did talk to an underclassman who received one 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:50.160 this morning. Okay, uh, not quite done yet. Yeah, right, 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:53.360 but is it the enderclassman, you know, because there's so 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:55.160 we had one hundred and thirty nderclassmen come out there. 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:57.680 It's a record, wasn't it. It is a record? Yeah? Uh. 0:01:57.720 --> 0:01:59.840 And the end, it's funny the NFL tries to hide 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:02.120 it a little bit by saying, well, there's really only 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:04.040 one hundred and six, but then there was also these 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:07.080 ten who graduated but we're still juniors, and then there 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:10.040 are these six who they try to like put the 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:13.240 number lower. It's really one hundred and thirty. Yeah, and 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:18.320 so the we'll see who receives invites based on those underclassmen, 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:22.120 but a few seniors Poona Ford being from Texas defensive 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:25.240 tackle being the most notable to me, who has yet 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:29.200 to receive his invitation and at this point doesn't look 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:32.000 like it's coming. And if that's the case, I think 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:34.880 he'd be the biggest snub this year. National scouting have 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:36.799 something to do with that. The fact that he's five 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:39.239 eleven one. Oh, there's no Yeah, do you think they're 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:42.560 grade coming in was so low? You just hit the 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:45.679 nail on the head. They part of this. They're so 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:49.720 committed to the grades that they have going in. Yeah, 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:53.320 and they don't factor enough the changes throughout the year, 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.920 guys that helped themselves. It's almost like they're stubborn with 0:02:57.000 --> 0:03:00.320 those grades going into the senior season that they just don't. 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:02.919 They don't. It's it's hard to come off those initial 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:06.400 grades and it hurt. It's gonna hurt a player like Pounaford. Yeah, 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:09.280 that's a shame. It's kind of like Pootaford a little bit. Yeah, 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:14.400 I mean he is undersized but destructive and well the 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:16.480 point I was gonna make it mean one hundred and 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:21.760 thirty yeahs two hundred and fifty six draft slots. I 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:24.919 believe right around there. Yeah, we went, you factor in 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:27.239 the compensatories and stuff, and by that we'll know compense 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:32.200 TWIST owners meeting March, there's there's Yeah, there's never a 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:34.360 set date for it. Yeah, but I think it's always 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:37.200 kind of been around the meeting by mid last year. 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:39.520 We got it a little bit early, so we'll see 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:41.760 what this year has um. But yeah, I mean we're 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:44.760 gonna have three hundred and thirty around there, combine invites. 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:47.080 You're gonna tell me there's three hundred and thirty better 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:49.600 players in this draft than Poonaford. I mean, I don't 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:52.880 think Poonaford's a first round pick. I'm not sure he's 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:55.520 a top one hundred type of guy, but they're not 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:57.800 three hundred and thirty better players. Another one that stood 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:00.960 out to me was Doris Fountain, wide receiver from Northern 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:02.960 I liked him a lot. I've talked about him throughout 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.840 the season, and he made me look smart when he 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:08.760 performed without the Shrine Shrine game. Those practices in the 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:12.920 game really raw as a wide receiver, but good size, 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:15.000 and he's gonna test really well. Now it won't be 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:17.039 at the Combine. I'll have to be his pro day. 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:20.400 But he's the ideal candidate for a Day three receiver 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:24.080 that you can stash either bottom of the roster or 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:26.520 on the practice squad and develop. I think he might 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:28.560 have something there. So surprising he's not going to be 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:31.200 an Indie this year. And that I mean just basic math. 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:34.240 So three hundred and thirty invites, I mean almost a 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:37.520 hundred guys will be at the Combine that won't get drafted. 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:41.160 Yeah that number. Oh yeah, you've always you've always keep 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:43.200 his tab on that number, don't you? That number of 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:46.600 guys that aren't drafted that the Combine. Let me pull 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:48.680 it up, all right, So last year, let's just take 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:51.640 last year. There were three hundred and thirty players invited 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:54.400 to the Combine two hundred and fifty three total draft picks. 0:04:54.440 --> 0:05:01.520 So that means that one hundred and five Combine invites undrafted. Wow. 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:05.480 So yeah, even if you get a Combine invite as 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:08.360 far from not a guarantee, there were twenty eight players 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:11.039 that did not receive a Combine invite who were drafted. 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:13.599 There we go. So that's the number I want to know. 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:15.480 If you don't receive an invite to the Combine. It's 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:17.640 not the end of the road by any means. Don't 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:20.080 find you. Last year is twenty eight, the year before 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:23.800 it's thirty eight, year before its forty one, So play 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:28.960 do better. Yeah, there's plenty of these names that don't 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:33.359 receive Combine invites that still have a chance. Goodness, Gracio 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:34.800 it is. And we'll be there by the way for 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.520 the combine. Uh, you know, we'll be there the whole 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:39.960 week covering that action for you. We're gonna have shows 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:43.559 from the from the Radio Row with the Combine where 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:46.440 we have now in the Convention Center, which is kind 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:50.760 of fun. So we'll be over at that. Part way 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:53.880 of saying they moved us out of the stadium, Yeah, 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:56.480 it's not very it's not very fun. You know. It's 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:58.960 okay they bring those guys over there. I liked the 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:02.520 old setup better. Yeah. Yeah, it's gotta do what you 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:04.520 gotta do. Gotta do what you gotta do. You just 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:06.400 like it so you can trash talk all the other 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:09.440 teams on Radio Row. I can I tend to do that. 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:13.599 It's all right. When they borrowed Dane, yeah exactly, that's 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:16.520 our analysts, that's all you're doing. Yeah, Hey, mister Jets, 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:18.919 they'll be barring our analysts over there. Please thank you 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:23.320 very much. All right, by the way, at eleven forty today, 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:25.440 Taylor Stern is gonna join us and she's gonna have 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:29.000 a segment we're gonna call a Stern look, so stay 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:32.760 tuned for that. That that is Tay what we'll be here. 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:34.960 I want to ask you guys a little question here, 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:38.599 and you know, and this is something more of a 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:42.840 philosophy question, and I want to say, make it more 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:44.640 of a true or false question, but she can answer 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.520 however you want to answer it, true or false. A 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:52.080 non pass rushing defensive lineman has no business being drafted 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:56.080 in the first round. And this is why I'm talking 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:58.640 about all the names that we're you know, we're looking 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:02.720 at with the Cowboys at nineteen potential, with Vita Veaz, 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:08.560 guys like that, maybe even Payne. If you're talking about 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:12.960 a non non pass rushing should a non pass rushing 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:17.200 defensive lineman be drafted in the first round, which I mean, 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:19.280 can I give you some names? Yeah, go for it. 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.480 Last year we had Jonathan Allen. We all agreed probably 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:25.080 a top five player that went to Washington at seventeen 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:31.400 twenty sixteen, Sheldon Rankins went to the Saints at the 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:35.360 twelfth spot. Kenny Clark UCLA went to the Packers at 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:39.800 twenty seven, Robert Kind Old Miss went to Arizona at 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:44.480 twenty nine. Vernon Butler from Louisiana Tech went to Carolina 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:48.960 at thirty. Okay, go back to twenty fifteen. Leonard Williams, 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:52.280 who we all loved at usc went to the Jets 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:57.760 sixth overall, Dandy Shelton to Cleveland at twelve, and Malcolm 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:00.400 Buck Butler excuse me at University of Texas to Saint 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:04.000 Assuming to New England at thirty two. Malcolm Brown, Malcolm Brown, 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:08.560 does Malcolm Butler? You did? I'm sorry about that, brother Patriot. Yeah, 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:11.080 it's a really fair question, and it's something that fans 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:14.120 ask us a lot about because there are several intriguing 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:17.720 one technique prospects in this draft. And at this point 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:19.600 I can give ourselves a little pad on the back 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:21.760 here because we do a good enough job that people 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:24.200 who pay attention know that that's probably not something the 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:27.320 Cowboys typically consider. So you get a lot of questions 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:30.920 about whether they change that philosophy this year. Yeah. Me, personally, 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:34.880 I'm of the opinion that if a guy is, you know, 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:37.200 the best or close to the best at his position, 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:39.280 and I mean, you know, if it makes sense for 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:43.160 your team. Specialists are the only position in football that 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:45.400 I wouldn't consider drafting in the first round, you know. 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:48.040 I mean, if he's the best one tech and he's 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:51.160 gonna go Vince will fork on you and just eat 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:54.000 up space and make your life easier on your linebackers 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:55.720 and the rest of you guys on your defensive line, 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:57.840 Hell yeah, that's worth a first round pick if it 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:00.560 makes sense for your team, which in the Cowboys case, 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:03.079 I think it does, so yeah, I would absolutely, I 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:07.160 say false, I think if he's the best, non the best, 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:10.839 if he's the best at his positions one technique, go ahead, 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:15.240 don't don't feel bad about making that pick at all. Yeah. Absolutely, 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:17.600 I mean a great, great, he doesn't get stacked sacks. 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.040 But if he makes life easier on your linebackers, which 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:24.000 is a position we've been worried about since we started this. Absolutely, 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:29.960 position value is going to be a popular subject in 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:33.560 this draft. When you have a Quentin Nelson, a guard who, 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.840 in my opinion, and I think an opinion you guys 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.559 share best player in this draft, but he's a guard. 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:43.640 Sequon Barkley, top five player in this draft, but he's 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:49.640 a running back. Position value matters in the draft. You know, 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:52.880 that's part of the discussion. And I think one technique 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:56.840 h knows tackles. It's that that's part of the discussion. 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:59.760 Is it too early to draft one of those guys? 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.600 And I think it just like guard, like running back, 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:05.160 it depends on the impact it makes for your team, 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:07.280 kind of like what Dave was saying about, you know 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:09.920 what fits best for your team. You know, a one 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.560 technique or a nose tackle might not be It might 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:14.960 be a need for another team, but it might not 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:18.079 have a big impact. Now for the Cowboys, I think 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:20.760 it could have a big impact potentially because of the 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:23.319 way it frees up your linebackers, the way it helps 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:27.320 your defensive ends, moving Leek Collins to three technique where 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:30.680 I think he's probably better suited. So I think that 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.920 adding a one technique who not just to add one, 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:37.520 but because he is arguably the best player on the board, 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:39.880 he could have that type of impact for a team 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:42.320 like the Cowboys. And this goes actually right back to 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:45.400 what I got so mad about last year, which feel 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.680 free to tweet me and remind me that Taco didn't 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:49.640 set the world on fire in his rookie year. But 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:53.600 I get I'm so frustrated by Well, we don't think 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:55.880 he's a right end. We're not sure he has those Yeah, 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:58.200 I don't care. Give me the guy who's a good 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:01.520 football player. If the best one technique is there, or 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:05.200 the best project at right end, give give me the 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:09.520 surefire every snap of the season one technique if that's 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:12.360 if that's the situation we're in, Give me the better player, 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:13.920 Give me the guy that's ready to go. If the 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:18.040 one technique is just a two down player, well, now, 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:20.199 I mean that gets into a conversation about whether that's 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:24.120 worth nineteenth overall pick. Say most most are. I mean, 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:27.360 there's not many one technique or nose tackles that are 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:31.840 every down players. There's we think the league Collins could play. 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:36.560 Someone could be he's an every down player. All right, yeah, yeah, 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:42.040 So I'm just you know again, that's will the philosophy change? 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:46.520 Will the philosophy change? Will will the nineteenth pick be 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:49.000 their last first round player? And will that player be 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.640 a I would argue defensive tack. I would argue this, 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:55.040 if you're spending the nineteenth overall pick on a one technique, 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:59.600 so that's another that's another premium prospect for your defensive line. 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.720 So contrary to everything we've said about it in past years, 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:04.439 all of a sudden, you're talking about a lot of talent. 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:07.480 So even if you're taking your nineteenth overall pick off 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:11.400 the field on third down, you're bringing another talented guy 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:14.600 onto the field in that situation. Whether it's Taco, whether 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:18.160 it's Tyrone Crawford, whether it's I mean DeMarcus Lawrence, will 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:20.120 be out there regardless. But you get my point. I mean, yeah, 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:23.720 if you're adding another really talented defensive linemanto that mix, 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:26.520 then you're just giving yourself more bodies to work with. 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:28.679 So yeah, I mean that sounds bad when you put 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:31.760 it that way, but I'd still probably do it, assuming 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:35.040 there's not a better option available. What your feelings brought us, 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:40.440 I'm okay, yeah, I you know, after seeing those names, though, 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:43.240 it kind of made me think a little bit. But 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:46.839 you know, we're thinking about pass rush defensive tackles. Aaron Donald, right, 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:51.040 you know, and I think Aaron Donald's though once in 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:54.600 every fifteen year type player, I really do. Aaron looks 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:57.400 that way. So to me, you know, if it's Aaron Donald, 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:00.760 I get it because he run pass, he can play. 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:03.280 But I'm just trying to say, though, if looking at 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:05.719 the names, if you look at these guys and you're 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:08.160 kind of thinking, well, who's the best player out of 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.120 that group we just went through? You know, Leonard Williams 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:14.240 would would you would you take the career of Sheldon Rankins, 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:19.960 Kenny Clark, Robert Candice? You know, I can't speak. Kenny 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:22.600 Clark is developing into a pretty damn good player. For him, 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:24.839 he is that that that yeah, that was one of 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:26.800 the youngest players in that draft. So I think he's, 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:29.600 you know, growing into that role. Well, like a guy 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:32.720 that I know has disappointed is Danny Shelton in Cleveland. Yeah, 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.640 you know, they drafted him, I think overall, Yeah, twelfth 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:38.520 overall and there's another University of Washington guy. But I 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:40.520 think that I think that Vita Vea is a different 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:42.920 player than Danny Shelton. I think vitave is a better 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:45.920 athlete than Danny Shelter. Also drafting him into a different scheme. 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:49.880 He said, nos, yeah, three four nos. Yeah, So I 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:51.959 mean that that to me, I I just wondered it, 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:55.280 like you guys thought, I I have no problems with 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:59.439 Vitava again, because I think that I think there's a 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.000 shot that he there. Let's really I mean if you 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:04.800 look at if you look at really you know, if 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:08.920 you look at the landscape of you know, well, you 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:12.280 know we we we rate him pretty high. But if 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:15.199 you look at the landscape of the draft. I mean again, 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:17.360 I never believed that Jonathan Allen was gonna and it 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:20.520 might be because of the shoulder. Am I right about that? Well, 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.120 it has to be. Yeah. And also, well, you don't 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:24.760 know what's going to come out about these guys once 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.520 they go through all these physicals, So sure there's just 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:29.360 as many things that could be coming out about. But 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:31.760 I would have never believed that Jonathan Allen because it 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:33.880 was a male bad question that we had today. Yeah, 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:36.160 if there's somebody you would trade up for, I would 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:39.400 have never believed in all my just last year's draft, 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:43.160 the safety from Ohio State would have been a potential guy. Yeah. 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:46.200 And then Jonathan Allen, Yeah, would have never believed that. 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.320 I think we had we generally agreed that Hooker and 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:52.880 Lattimore were both top ten picks. I believe when eleven 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:55.480 and Hooker went seven, no doubt. So I was looking 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:57.920 back at my top ten the other day. Lattimore was six, 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:01.920 Hooker was two, Allen was five, something like that. So 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:04.640 that's what I'm saying. You don't know, But is it? 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:08.040 You know? Is that one technique? Well, let's get down 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:11.040 to brass tacks. Not that I mean, you know, the 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:13.960 main guys are all still here, but there's been some 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:16.840 change on the on the coaching staff. Yeah, you think 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:19.040 the philosophy is any different? Is there any reason to 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:21.320 believe that they feel differently and that they would do 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:24.120 something like I think that. I think, yes, you think so? 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:26.600 I do? Okay, I think so. That's why I asked 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:28.600 the question because I think it's going to become a 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:31.200 point in time where you're sitting at nineteen and if 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:35.080 Vitavea is sitting there, you surely should consider him. But 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.040 that's it's It's so hard though, because who else, okay, 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.040 who else is there? That's what I'm saying, is Derwin 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:42.600 James there? Because I'd rather have Derwin James. Okay, let 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:44.600 me let me all right, say Vitavea is gone. Say 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:52.080 it's between durn Payne and let's say I don't want Okay, 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:55.120 well you ruined to the hypothetical already before he could 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:59.320 even finish it. Whols you giving me. Let's say Derwin James, 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:03.200 Take Derwin James. Yeah, okay, I would take Derwin James 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:06.720 over Vita Vea. That's what I'm saying. Okay, that's that's 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.280 where that's where my you know, all right, I ask 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:14.600 you this, If you take Vita Vea over mcclinchey, yes, yeah, 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:16.640 I'm not taking an offensive lineman in the first round. 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:21.560 I would, but about when I like him a lot, 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:24.320 I'm not taking him in the first round though, he's 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:28.160 your twenty first best player something like that. Yeah, we're talking. Uh, 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:31.080 McGlinchey is the tackle from Notre Dame. When is the 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:34.160 offensive line guy from Georgia offensive line guy? Well, he 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:37.360 could do both whatever, guard tackle. You know, that's interesting 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:39.640 about this one technique thing. I think that will change, 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:41.800 though I think I don't. I don't know if Marinelli's 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:46.280 gonna have a choice change good. I mean no, I 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:49.400 mean he's a fantastic coach, but well, these names scary 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:52.480 you though, a little bit. For one techniques or guys 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:55.680 are the defensive tackles that don't rush? Which one? I mean, 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:58.280 Veya doesn't He's no, No, I'm just talking about the 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:03.880 guys I read off from ranks previous. Kenny clark Is 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:06.920 is playing damn well for the Powers, and Rankins spent 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:09.280 most of his rookie year on IR. But I don't 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:11.440 have his numbers on hand for you, but I'm under 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:13.760 the impression he played pretty well for New Orleans. Jonathan 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:15.920 Allen didn't do anything for Washington because he didn't wind 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:20.720 up on IR. Yeah, exactly, kim D didn't him DJ? Yeah, 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:24.800 he he was. He was a train wreck. Yeah, but Rankings, 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.000 Rankins and clark are two names that jump out to 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:29.600 me as as good picks to this point, at least, 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:33.040 i'd agree. Yeah, yeah, so that doesn't bother me. Real quick, 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:36.200 before we get out of here on the break, I 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:39.920 have another question for you guys. Who has a better 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:46.320 NFL career out of Barkley Geis and Ronald Jones? Come on, what, 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:49.240 I'm curious, where where are they going? What do you 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:52.239 want me to say? Not just just crystal ball it, No, 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:56.560 that's the variable that yeah, in situation'll be just crystal 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:59.000 ball it. That's just in your in your thought, in 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:02.000 your thought. Who I mean, it's all said because I 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:04.480 want to see how much everybody likes Ronald Jones here. 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:07.560 I'd love Ronald Jones. So that's this's my whole, this 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:09.639 is my mission here. But I'm trying to figure out 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:12.080 if you guys like and I threw in the LSU 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:14.040 guy because you know the LSU guy, and a lot 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:16.520 of people like guys the LSU. What if sae Quon 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:19.680 Barkley's just running into ten man fronts for the Browns 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:23.000 for the next five years because they don't find a quarterback. 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:27.359 And what if what if Darius What if Darius Geis 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:30.359 falls to eighteen and all of a sudden he's playing 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:33.000 in Seattle with an MVP caliber quarterback and a better 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:35.320 O line. Like I mean, guys could have a way 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:37.840 better career despite not being as talented as Barkley. Like 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:39.840 what do you want me to say? I want you 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:42.720 to crystal ball this thing. I think, why you put 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:44.879 yourself on the line a little bit here, because why 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:46.639 would you put yourself on the line for a question 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:49.400 and answer? Because it's stupid. It's not stupid. I think 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:51.240 all three of them will be really good. I'd be 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.400 better out of all three. How about that for a question? 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:56.320 All right, if if you want me to pick one 0:18:56.359 --> 0:19:00.200 of okay, pick I'll I think I want to see 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:02.280 how much you like Ronald Jones. I think it goes 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:06.119 in that order. I think it's Barkley, Guys, Jones, but 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:09.800 I'll take Jones because of where I can get him. 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:11.800 Like you gotta take Barkley in the top ten, you 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:13.479 probably got to take Guys. I know you don't think 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:15.080 he's a first round pick. I think you gotta take 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:17.760 him in the top twenty twenty five. Yeah, I think 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:21.320 you can get Ronald Jones in the top forty. Like 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:22.760 I said, I was mapping up my top fifty, I 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:24.679 had four running backs in the top twenty eight. I'm 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:26.800 about not to believe your top fifty. By the way, 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:30.280 because I asked you about taking Win potentially at nineteen 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:31.920 and you wanted nothing to do with him. I believe 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:34.440 he's your twenty first best player. Well this is I'm 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:36.359 not This board is not for the cowboy. I'm just 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:39.879 saying if I'm looking at your board, well yeah, no, 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:42.679 dress your board, Dane. Cowboys don't pick twenty one right 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:45.560 pick nineteen, so I'm not I'm not taking the twenty. 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:48.200 You guys used to have some guts in this room. 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:50.960 Hold back to what I was saying. Give me about Jones. 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:54.000 Tell me about Jones, Guys and Barkley. I have Barkley 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:57.560 in top five. Okay, I've got guys and Johnson back 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:00.280 to back, twenty seven and twenty eight. Okay, I mean, 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:05.159 or wait, which from I have Ronald Jones at eighteen, 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:08.399 so I have him I'm way off. Well, no, I 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:10.119 mean I hate that there's not guarantee he's gonna go. 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:12.440 That's Nott the Cowboys board, Dave, don't, don't, don't pay 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:14.840 attention to that. No, well, it's I have Christian Kirk 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:18.200 ahead of But you know, if the Cowboys maybe that's 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:20.679 not a fit. You know, it's just this is just 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:22.520 a general board. You know, I'm not doing it. It's 0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:26.000 a better player Ronald Jones or Christian Kirk. I have 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:29.240 him like almost back to back, so I'm more confident 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:32.280 about what Ronald Jones can do right away. I mean, 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:34.720 you know we've talked about, you know, the questions around Kirk. 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:37.960 Can he play outside? Yeah, we see, and that's I 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:40.280 have those questions too. But with Kirk, I feel great 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:42.879 about his floor. It's high. Yeah, I think I know 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:44.840 at the very least he's going to be an impact 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:48.840