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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: on your war room for in center news and draft

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Speaker 1: analysis from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at

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Speaker 1: the Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select Elliott and now

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Speaker 1: your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well,

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Speaker 1: well you welcome you to the SWBC Mortgage Studios for

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Speaker 1: the Draft Show once again on a Thursday. Glad you're

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Speaker 1: along with us. Eighty four days until the NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: be here before we know it, Boys, it will be.

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Speaker 1: It's harder to believe. Senior Bowl and januaries in the

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Speaker 1: in the rearview absolutely want to look forward to the

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Speaker 1: Combine and the workouts and everything else. It's Dan Burglar

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Speaker 1: right there, David Hellman on the other side, Kent Garrison,

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Speaker 1: Executive Producing. You brought up the Senior Bowl and we

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Speaker 1: kind of put that in a little bit in the

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Speaker 1: rearview mirror. Let's talk about the combine a little bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: kind of on this you're on the you're on the

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Speaker 1: combine train. I am. All those all those uh invites

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Speaker 1: went out. We kind of have an idea who's in,

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Speaker 1: who's out right and the way they do it is

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Speaker 1: they send a mountain waves. Usually in the past it

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Speaker 1: was two waves, and there's three waves. They kind of

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Speaker 1: do it systematically, where you know, the first wave goes out, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, even before Christmas. Uh, and then when the

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Speaker 1: underclassmen come out, you know, they reserve a certain amount,

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Speaker 1: and then the third wave just went out. The final

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Speaker 1: went out this week and surprising some names, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: following up some players that did not receive invites yet.

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Speaker 1: Now I did talk to an underclassman who received one

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Speaker 1: this morning. Okay, uh, not quite done yet. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: but is it the enderclassman, you know, because there's so

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Speaker 1: we had one hundred and thirty nderclassmen come out there.

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Speaker 1: It's a record, wasn't it. It is a record? Yeah? Uh.

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Speaker 1: And the end, it's funny the NFL tries to hide

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Speaker 1: it a little bit by saying, well, there's really only

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Speaker 1: one hundred and six, but then there was also these

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Speaker 1: ten who graduated but we're still juniors, and then there

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Speaker 1: number lower. It's really one hundred and thirty. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: so the we'll see who receives invites based on those underclassmen,

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Speaker 1: but a few seniors Poona Ford being from Texas defensive

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Speaker 1: tackle being the most notable to me, who has yet

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Speaker 1: like it's coming. And if that's the case, I think

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Speaker 1: he'd be the biggest snub this year. National scouting have

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Speaker 1: something to do with that. The fact that he's five

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Speaker 1: eleven one. Oh, there's no Yeah, do you think they're

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Speaker 1: grade coming in was so low? You just hit the

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Speaker 1: nail on the head. They part of this. They're so

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Speaker 1: committed to the grades that they have going in. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and they don't factor enough the changes throughout the year,

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Speaker 1: guys that helped themselves. It's almost like they're stubborn with

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Speaker 1: those grades going into the senior season that they just don't.

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Speaker 1: They don't. It's it's hard to come off those initial

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Speaker 1: grades and it hurt. It's gonna hurt a player like Pounaford. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a shame. It's kind of like Pootaford a little bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he is undersized but destructive and well the

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Speaker 1: point I was gonna make it mean one hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty yeahs two hundred and fifty six draft slots. I

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Speaker 1: believe right around there. Yeah, we went, you factor in

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Speaker 1: the compensatories and stuff, and by that we'll know compense

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Speaker 1: TWIST owners meeting March, there's there's Yeah, there's never a

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Speaker 1: set date for it. Yeah, but I think it's always

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Speaker 1: We got it a little bit early, so we'll see

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Speaker 1: what this year has um. But yeah, I mean we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have three hundred and thirty around there, combine invites.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna tell me there's three hundred and thirty better

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Speaker 1: players in this draft than Poonaford. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty better players. Another one that stood

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Speaker 1: out to me was Doris Fountain, wide receiver from Northern

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Speaker 1: I liked him a lot. I've talked about him throughout

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Speaker 1: it up, all right, So last year, let's just take

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Speaker 1: last year. There were three hundred and thirty players invited

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Speaker 1: to the Combine two hundred and fifty three total draft picks.

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Speaker 1: So that means that one hundred and five Combine invites undrafted. Wow.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, even if you get a Combine invite as

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Speaker 1: There we go. So that's the number I want to know.

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Speaker 1: If you don't receive an invite to the Combine. It's

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Speaker 1: not the end of the road by any means. Don't

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Speaker 1: find you. Last year is twenty eight, the year before

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Speaker 1: it's thirty eight, year before its forty one, So play

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Speaker 1: do better. Yeah, there's plenty of these names that don't

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Speaker 1: receive Combine invites that still have a chance. Goodness, Gracio

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Speaker 1: week covering that action for you. We're gonna have shows

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Speaker 1: It's all right. When they borrowed Dane, yeah exactly, that's

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Speaker 1: our analysts, that's all you're doing. Yeah, Hey, mister Jets,

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Speaker 1: very much. All right, by the way, at eleven forty today,

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Speaker 1: tuned for that. That that is Tay what we'll be here.

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Speaker 1: ask us a lot about because there are several intriguing

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Speaker 1: one technique prospects in this draft. And at this point

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Speaker 1: is a position we've been worried about since we started this. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: position value is going to be a popular subject in

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Speaker 1: what fits best for your team. You know, a one

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Speaker 1: have a big impact. Now for the Cowboys, I think

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Speaker 1: it could have a big impact potentially because of the

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Speaker 1: way it frees up your linebackers, the way it helps

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Speaker 1: your defensive ends, moving Leek Collins to three technique where

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Speaker 1: I think he's probably better suited. So I think that

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Speaker 1: what I got so mad about last year, which feel

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Speaker 1: free to tweet me and remind me that Taco didn't

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Speaker 1: set the world on fire in his rookie year. But

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Speaker 1: I get I'm so frustrated by Well, we don't think

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Speaker 1: we're gonna wrap up this d tackle discussion with a

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Speaker 1: really a really good question from d Rob who asked,

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Speaker 1: what would you think is a better combo for the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys going forward? Maurice Hearst at the three technique with MALIEK.

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Speaker 1: Collins at the one technique or MALIEK. Collins at the

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Speaker 1: three technique with Vita Vea at the one technique. So

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Speaker 1: you got your choice between, you know, arguably the best

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Speaker 1: defensive tackles in this class at their respective spots are

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Speaker 1: arguably for me, that's hard to answer, because I to

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Speaker 1: Willie Collins is a to me a three technique. That's

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Speaker 1: but yeah, I agree. You have always Brian, you have

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Speaker 1: always told me that his best tape with the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: has been when he's at the one. It's when he's

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Speaker 1: spent playing the one. Is that because he needs a

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Speaker 1: better three or just better help regardless of you don't

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Speaker 1: mean that when he was really playing, We thought he

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Speaker 1: was a Pro Bowl guy who was playing next to him.

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Speaker 1: Daryl McClain, Yeah, three technique. Yeah, there you go. So

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. I'm going I think I think

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Speaker 1: playing him, I would take Hurst at the three. I

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Speaker 1: like Hurst, have a first round grade on Hurst, I

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Speaker 1: have Hurt. I would like to see I'd like to

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Speaker 1: see what he could do at the three with a

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Speaker 1: guy like Vya. I don't know. I mean, the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: haven't had a one technique like that. In my memory,

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Speaker 1: I think if you if you the combination with with

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Speaker 1: Collins and Hurst, they don't come off the field. That's fair,

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Speaker 1: that's a good point. You get more bang for the

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Speaker 1: buck with Hurst and you'd do Vita Vea. In my opinion,

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Speaker 1: you worry about your run defense though, I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: the knock on Hearst, Is it not? From what I remember?

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Speaker 1: Why White? Yeah, yeah, it's a three technique well light

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Speaker 1: in the ass. Yeah, you know, I know what that's

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Speaker 1: but why but why you play it? Why you play

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Speaker 1: in We're talking about making life easier on your linebackers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but what about though? The what about who you got

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Speaker 1: Crawford playing the right end? Yeah? That helps you in

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Speaker 1: the run, it does. I like I hear you, and

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Speaker 1: I respect y'all's opinions more than my own. But I'm

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Speaker 1: i'd be intrigued to see him and if I find

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Speaker 1: the general manager of this team, I'm going down. I'm

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Speaker 1: talking to my defensive line coach. I'm talking about defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, Okay, Malie Collins, where is he best? You

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Speaker 1: are as coaches, you see him every day in practice,

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Speaker 1: you study the move with the one. They put David

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Speaker 1: Irvin at the three. Right, But I'm gonna ask them,

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Speaker 1: ideal situation, where would you rather play him? Do you

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Speaker 1: think he'd have a better long term NFL career at

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Speaker 1: the three or at the one? Where do you where

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Speaker 1: do you like him best? Not independent of everything else

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Speaker 1: on this team, an ideal world, an ideal roster, where

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Speaker 1: would you want to play him? And based on that answer,

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Speaker 1: that would heavily influence where I go with that. With

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Speaker 1: that answer to that question, see the problem I have

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Speaker 1: with that defensive coaching staff told me to pay Crawford

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Speaker 1: and that he was going to be the three. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a good point. They needn't even make a chance.

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Speaker 1: I mean you have to trust your coaches, which you

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Speaker 1: have to to a point, to a point I will

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Speaker 1: because it proved to me, proved to me that you can. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I I paid nothing against Tyrn Crawford because

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Speaker 1: he's he's They paid him as a three technique. He's

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Speaker 1: making nine million dollars years a three technique. Yeah, he was.

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Speaker 1: And now is your right end? Now I've got Now

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out, Okay, do I want to

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Speaker 1: draft a three technique? When I just gave a guy

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Speaker 1: nine million dollars a year at right end, that was

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Speaker 1: the three technique, and I let a guy walk. Because

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Speaker 1: it's safe to say that door is closed on Crawford

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Speaker 1: moving back to tackle. I think it is. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: kind of think they liked the fact that he could

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Speaker 1: play the riot in and play the run. You know,

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Speaker 1: he gives him a little something on the edge as

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Speaker 1: a pass rusher. See the problem. I'm just trying to think, Okay,

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Speaker 1: who am I who could be my most dynamic players?

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Speaker 1: You know, an inside hurst disruptive Yeah, heave he'd be disruptive, sure,

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Speaker 1: but he is he an every down player? Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: my that's my argument. Oh, I hear you, I hear you.

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Speaker 1: Just it's interesting. I don't know, watch the draft. The

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Speaker 1: whole defensive tackle conversation with this team is just frustrating

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Speaker 1: because it's have they got it right yet? It's an enigma? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and enigma. So I'm saying we don't. You're you're you're

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Speaker 1: talking about college who we think is last year coming

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Speaker 1: out And I know we were coming out of Oxnard,

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Speaker 1: we were thinking college could be a Pro Bowl player.

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Speaker 1: I've got a foot injury. I thought he was gonna

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Speaker 1: lead the team and it sacks. Yeah, exactly what happened there? Well,

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Speaker 1: he got injured. Also DeMarcus Lawrence just yeah, lost his mind,

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Speaker 1: exactly exactly. I thought we were going to have to

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Speaker 1: like drag fans along with this line of thinking. But

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Speaker 1: I've been pleasantly surprised by the ground swell of interest

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Speaker 1: and support for this question. With a friend of the show,

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Speaker 1: Tom and then Eric a little bit of a dual

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Speaker 1: question here guard in the first round put that line

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Speaker 1: back together and really just put it ridiculously over the top.

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Speaker 1: And then Eric, a little more detailed, says, is will

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Speaker 1: Hernandez a real consideration there? The UTEP guard? We talked

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Speaker 1: about this a bunch, Yeah, we have. We've really talked

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Speaker 1: about this a bunch. I am okay. If you tell

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Speaker 1: me that the best player and this is this goes

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Speaker 1: against something that you say, and I believe you on

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Speaker 1: this best player within need right? Am I right about that? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Everybody says, oh, to take the best player on the board.

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Speaker 1: I grew up in that in Green Bay, right, I

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Speaker 1: grew up in that, And I'm thinking, okay, nineteen is

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Speaker 1: the best could the best player on the board be

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Speaker 1: a guard and that would make me think about taking him.

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Speaker 1: I mean if if, if, in fact it Dane has

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Speaker 1: Win Georgia tackle converted guard as his twenty first best player,

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Speaker 1: and I kind of see him the same way. Why

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Speaker 1: would I not take him at nineteen because he's not

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Speaker 1: in your top nineteen ranked players. Let's not. Let's not

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Speaker 1: do this, gentleman. I'm not to me. I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't have a single except for Quentin Nelson. Do you

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Speaker 1: because they would have taken him there if it was. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not drafting an offensive lineman in the

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Speaker 1: top twenty this year unless it's Quentin Nelson. That's just

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Speaker 1: my opinion. Oh sure, So I understand the Travis Frederick

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Speaker 1: that plan where you maybe you trade back a little bit.

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Speaker 1: That's I'm open to that, But at nineteen, I am

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Speaker 1: not taking offensive lineman there. I would rather wait till

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Speaker 1: the second round and I could probably get well Hernandez

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Speaker 1: if I trade up into the early second round, I'd

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Speaker 1: be okay with that, get myself a stud in the

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Speaker 1: top twenty, and then maybe move around in the second

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Speaker 1: round ward wherese Ward the corner from Ohio. Steak going

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Speaker 1: to go, oh, answer that, and but that's a good

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Speaker 1: segue for the next one. I think he's a top

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Speaker 1: ten pick. Okay, but we've seen this before, have away teams.

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Speaker 1: Some teams have issue with height at the cornerback position.

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Speaker 1: Man Hughes, so he's eager to see at the combine

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Speaker 1: what he weighs in at. He's probably gonna be around

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Speaker 1: five to ten. We'll see that could be an issue

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Speaker 1: for some teams. I would be surprised if he's there

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Speaker 1: this draft, speaking of need within reason. What if okay,

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Speaker 1: excuse me just second, what if he was there at nineteen?

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Speaker 1: Can you like? What if? The like? Can you let me? Oh?

633
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, can you let me? Blake says, would you

634
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Speaker 1: consider a cornerback at nineteen? Denzel Ward and Josh Jackson

635
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: being Jackson, I wouldn't likely candidates there. I wouldn't Jackson.

636
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Speaker 1: Oh you would Wan Jackson Jackson, Ward and Hugh and

637
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: Hughes are Mike two guys, which one is Hughes. Well,

638
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: I've learned this now, you see f that's what they

639
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Speaker 1: like to say. It they don't like to say Central Florida.

640
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: Say you see it's kind of like ULLL in Louisiana. Yeah. Uh,

641
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: Denzel Ward he's a top. I have him six on

642
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: my board actually, so I'm a high and then I

643
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: have use thirteen. So both those guys I have ranked

644
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: pretty high. Now both are undersized corners. And could that

645
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: cause them to slip a little bit? Sure, it's possible.

646
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: Where do you have Vita vea seventeen? So he's got

647
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: two corners higher than his tackle, and he's got he's

648
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: got two corners and a tackle higher than his guard.

649
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: But those corners, it's an interesting question because could they

650
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: fall a little bit because of the height. It's possible.

651
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: And then well, and from a cowboys perspective, maybe people

652
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: don't want to hear this, but I gain need within reason.

653
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: I mean, look at the can you which you move

654
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: a woozier to safety? I guess if you want to

655
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: do that, Like I'm sitting here, like, how do you

656
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: started him? How do you find room for another corner?

657
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: Right now? I mean, I guess if Scandrick's walking. If

658
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: we don't know that right now, we think if he does,

659
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: you still have three very capable corners and a fourth

660
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: guy in Xavier Woods who can do the job. I mean,

661
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: you're still and you know, if you're taking the guy

662
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: at nineteen, the assumption would be that he's immediately better

663
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Speaker 1: than at least two of those guys. I get that.

664
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Speaker 1: But which is more of a reach, the corner or

665
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: the guard at nineteen? All the guard in terms of

666
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: see this is interesting though, because I would say you

667
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: clearly think the corners more talented, because but the guard

668
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: has a better chance to be a Day one starter,

669
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 1: does he not? Or it's a more efficient pick because

670
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: you're just plugging him into left guard cornerback. He's either

671
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: not starting or he's taking a highly drafted player off

672
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: the field. That's I mean, that's what you're telling me.

673
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: Who's a better safety, the Woozier or Byron Jones? It

674
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how to answer that. We

675
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: haven't seen Cheeto play, yea Cheeto started off and then

676
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: what we saw Colorado? I mean they started him. He

677
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: got hurt in the Green Bay game this year playing safety.

678
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: This is this is that class away I see some

679
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: about Byron Jones, sure, drafted in two thousand and fifteen. Yes,

680
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: of the two thousand and fifteen draft, He and Leonard

681
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: Williams are the only two guys to start forty eight

682
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 1: games for their teams. Everybody else has started less. Nice

683
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: little stat there, Yeah, yeah, if you want it, if

684
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: you want now, people out there, I'm sure Ah brought

685
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: his forty eight games. He sucked every one of them.

686
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know where he was picked him.

687
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: Only he and Leonard Williams in that whole twenty fifteen

688
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: draft class of the first round have started forty eight games.

689
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: That's saying something Byron Byron Jones as the scapegoat for

690
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: this defensive troubles is beat up guy. But they beat

691
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: him up. But it's it's not fair. But I still

692
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: I still wouldn't pick up his option, would you? I

693
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: don't think they will, would you? I don't think I would. Yeah,

694
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: So I mean, I'm just telling you though, when you

695
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: talk about you, when you talk about picks that don't play, Oh,

696
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: that's a terrible pick. Mo Claiborne was a terrible pick. Yeah,

697
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: that was a terrible pick. All right. We considering when

698
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: you look at and you watch Fletcher Cox destroy New

699
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: England's blocking scheme this weekend, we did the we did

700
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: the Byron Jones Defense Hour recently. We don't know. That's fine. Well,

701
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: back to the original question though, just to me, cornerback

702
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: is the third most important position on your roster. So

703
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: you can never have enough of those guys. Whoa whoa,

704
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: whoa whoa wait, quarterback, yeah, ass rusher, ass rusher, left tackle,

705
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: corner to me, in my opinion, you can work around it. Well,

706
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: don't tell the Cowboys that they struggled. In my opinion,

707
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: left tackle got you killed. They struggled with that. Yeah, well,

708
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: that's lack of depth more than anything. But I left

709
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: tackle still important. It probably you know, it's probably some

710
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: more top five for me. Corners third, I mean, you

711
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: have to have a guy that can at least, you know,

712
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: keep receivers busy on the outside, and you can never

713
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: have enough of those guys. Now in the first round.

714
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: That's an interesting debate for this team because with a

715
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: Woozier Lewis that you know, you invested second round, second

716
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: day picks and those guys last year. You still have

717
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: hope for Anthony Brown, right, Yeah, you know you're not

718
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: toss him aside. So there's there's an interesting debate there.

719
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: If a Hughes now Josh Jackson, I'm not taking there,

720
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: but if either if use were to be there, that'd

721
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: be interesting debate. See that's where that's where I'm now.

722
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: Now you're starting to I don't know, man, that sounds crazy.

723
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: I know how important hues. Those are players. They might

724
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: be sure, but those guys are players. I know, I

725
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: hear you, and and I would imagine they'd they'd probably

726
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: be better than, like I said, at least one of

727
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: your top three. But again, is it the most efficient

728
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: pick possible? Is it? Is it more noticeably better than

729
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: plugging a really quality guard into what's already a good

730
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: offensive line. I don't know. That's that's a debate. We

731
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: can contend. Would you play Fitzpatrick Alabama at safety or corner?

732
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: I like him best at corner, but he could play safety,

733
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: no problem. It's like Jalen Ramsey, like he could he

734
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: be a slider. I don't see how. I mean, he's

735
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: one of the top five players in this draft. I mean,

736
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: unless there's something comes up medical we don't know about,

737
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: then I don't see how. But I mean he's like

738
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey where, yes, I know Jalen Ramsey's been out

739
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: standing at corner. He'd be just as good as a

740
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: safety as a free safety in this league. So I

741
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: make a Fitzpatrick. I'm not saying he's gonna make the

742
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: same type of impact as Jalen Ramsey, but he for

743
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 1: a lot of guys. If you don't have a true position,

744
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: you know, you know, did Jalen Ramsey have a true position?

745
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: It wasn't this team talking. It wasn't safety. It was not.

746
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: It was not as obvious as it seems now right,

747
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: it was not as defined because he was as safe

748
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: as Patrick say. And then he played corner, but he

749
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: was up and down. He's played a lot better at

750
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: corner now in the pros. Fitzpatrick he played minimal snaps

751
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: as an outside corner, but he played a lot of

752
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: slot corner, you know, as kind of their versatile nickel defender.

753
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: I've seen him backpedal, I've seen his instincts. He can

754
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: do it in the nickel, he can do it outside.

755
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: He's a big, long Yeah, I'm playing him outside as

756
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: a perimeter corner, but uh, there's no worries with me

757
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 1: with Fitzpatrick can play free safety, played nickel, he could

758
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: do it all but he's not falling, He's not there.

759
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: You go. I thought that about that safety from Ohio State. Here.

760
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: You're yeah, you're I'm ready for somebody that we think

761
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: if you just you take it, you take it so personally,

762
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: I do take when like when life intervenes with your board,

763
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: you know, like stuff happens, man, so it does. But

764
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 1: you know what, you gotta be ready. Do you gotta

765
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: be ready? You gotta be ready for that one more.

766
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: You gotta get tay in here real quick. All right? Um,

767
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: just well, I'll tell you. Let's let's let's let's be

768
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: sure you have a short one. You have a small one.

769
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: I know. There and there we go on. We got

770
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: we got some good question. No, I can get one more.

771
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: There's gonna do it. I'm gonna put Dane on the spot.

772
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: All right. Question from Reuben. The Ravens, Chargers and Seahawks

773
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: all picked before the Cowboys, right, what what do you

774
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 1: think their needs are? And like I mean, you're looking

775
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: at the players who might be falling off the board

776
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 1: right before the Cowboys pick. And how does that affect

777
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: that raven receiver I say, receivers from the quarterback Seahawk

778
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: offensive line. Oh Brian just did it there for you.

779
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: I mean that's yeah, those are the obvious ones. But

780
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: you look at some of the best players available. You know,

781
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: if a Roquan Smith or Derwin James, you know, we

782
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: could see a team like you know, you know, Aussie

783
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 1: Ridley in Baltimore. Ridley, Yeah, it was. He was chumming

784
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: it up with Nick Saban at the story. Worry about

785
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: worry about the Ravens and Ridley. They need well. I

786
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: tried to get Dez Bryant from you one time too.

787
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: They need a skill player receiver for sure. Sure, I

788
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: mean sure they do. I could see, you know, if

789
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: if a Darius Guys or somebody like that is there,

790
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: they could use a bell Cow running back. Alex Collins

791
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: played well down the stretch. But yeah, they don't have that, true,

792
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: like you said, a bell Cow, So yeah, I don't

793
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: think you can rule out running back there. Same with Seattle.

794
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: I think that's a possibility for running back as well.

795
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: But they need offensive line and Baltimore they need to

796
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: rebuild that front seven a lot, right. Trell Suggs is

797
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: on the you know he's fifty Yeah, yeah, he's near

798
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: in the eighteenth hole. Uh, it's time to kind of

799
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: rebuild that that that front seven. They've you know, they

800
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: took Marland Humphrey in the first round last year, so

801
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: the secondary they've invested a lot in, especially in their

802
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: free agency. So Baltimore, Yeah, you have to look at

803
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 1: skill player, especially wide receiver. They only had two wide

804
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: receivers more than twenty catches lift years. Got a lot

805
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: of money in that quarterback too. Oh my right, god, Yeah,

806
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was that bad. Perriman has not

807
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: worked out for no and it's a lot of it's

808
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: been injury. So I mean they might be skittish on

809
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: another first round wide receiver because of him. Sure, But

810
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: then you had the Chargers. It's kind of their moo

811
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: to go in the trenches. The offensive line, defensive line help.

812
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: They need a quarterback though, Chargers. Chargers, you think rivers

813
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,479
Speaker 1: talently or quarterback will be there for him, We'll see.

814
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: But take a take a quarterback and look toward the

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Speaker 1: future or draft win and show her up. The rest

816
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: of your offensive line could very well do that. That's good. Yeah,

817
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: good questions. All right, thanks everybody for those. Sorry we

818
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Speaker 1: didn't get to more. Yeah, sorry, we'll try and answer

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Speaker 1: gonna let David Helmet do a little business. Forces you

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Speaker 1: do it, Brian. The Cowboys are gonna draft like eight

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Speaker 1: Stern to the show. Hey, we missed you down there

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Speaker 1: to see what I missed you guys. I mean, last

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Speaker 1: time I went, was it freezing again? It was? It

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Speaker 1: was chilly, but not terrible fifties so cold two years ago,

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Speaker 1: I don't know it was the Then I go down

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Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl last year and it's facing it was, well,

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Speaker 1: it was a monsoon this year. Yeah, I'd be glad

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Speaker 1: you didn't go this year. Yeah. And then if you

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Speaker 1: guys haven't seen it's really cold in Minnesota, I guess. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's your timeline saying that, mind saying that a lot too.

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Speaker 1: And I've heard that everybody saying, oh three below. I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 1: I lived in it for five years. Yes, I'm sick

891
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,479
Speaker 1: of it. We're all doing great. We're all doing great.

892
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Speaker 1: To your question, you know, Tay, you know your expertise

893
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Speaker 1: of course of a lot of things, but really the

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Speaker 1: social side of it though, I mean, you dig in

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Speaker 1: on these players and stuff like that, and I know

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Speaker 1: that you got some stuff for us today and in

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Speaker 1: your in your segment, there the stern look of some

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Speaker 1: potential guys that the Cowboys can take. Yes, And I

899
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Speaker 1: want to kind of turn it over to you and

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Speaker 1: let you kind of talk about the various guys and

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00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: what you're reading from, you know, as you're analyzing. We

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00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: see the film stuff, but kind of the personal side

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Speaker 1: of some of these kids. Yeah. Well, I really I

904
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Speaker 1: talk a lot about this with Dave and you guys,

905
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Speaker 1: and the certain thing of I think this is the

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Speaker 1: first generation of draftabowl prospects where they have more communication

907
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Speaker 1: control than ever before. I mean, they're announcing their draft decklers.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to the draft. They're announced saying, oh I

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Speaker 1: got a letter to the Combine or the Senior Bowl.

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00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: I mean, we know more about them from them than

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00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: say their school or you know, because most of them

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00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: don't have agents yet. You know, they're working on that still.

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Speaker 1: And now I mean they're getting these contracts, these large endorsements,

914
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Speaker 1: even before they're on a team. Ye you know. I

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Speaker 1: remember I think Zeke was the one who signed the

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Speaker 1: huge Nike deal before he was even drafted. Like the

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Speaker 1: you know, the first the elite prospects are already doing that.

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Speaker 1: They're looking at the shoot trying to get that money

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Speaker 1: in that pocket right now. I mean, I remember we're

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Speaker 1: sitting on probably Cowboys Break with you, Brian, and we're

921
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Speaker 1: sitting there watching Snapchat during the thirty day visits and

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Speaker 1: we're like, Zeke's here today. Yeah, that was a great

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Speaker 1: way to kind of fall along what was going on. Yeah,

924
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Speaker 1: you just know all of that stuff. So I really

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Speaker 1: wanted to look at some of these guys, asked Dave

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Speaker 1: some of his advice of some guys that are potential

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Speaker 1: Cowboys targets in the first or second round. And I

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Speaker 1: want to start with obviously Calvin Ridley. He has a

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Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram, pretty popular guy. Obviously, playing at Alabama

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Speaker 1: you get more exposure than most. But of course he

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Speaker 1: announced his decision to go to the NFL through Twitter.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know when that even started. And who

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Speaker 1: helps them write these? Because some of these well crafted. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: some of these are great. Like Vita his was very

935
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Speaker 1: like you could tell it was like on his phone.

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Speaker 1: It was like literally a screenshot of a note. But

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Speaker 1: then like Calvin Ridley's is like a professional graphic. Oh

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Speaker 1: I saw that one. Yeah, got like the drop caps, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the shadowing, like his signature is put on, So I'm like,

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Speaker 1: who helps him do this? Like? Interesting the Alabama graphic design? Yeah,

941
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Speaker 1: perhaps nice jot, wouldn't that be awesome? Thing? What about

942
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Speaker 1: him the decision? Well? He very simple tweets, very simple

943
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Speaker 1: tweets off a lot of motivational phrases, and he's promoting

944
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Speaker 1: his snapchat a lot, which is interesting to me because

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Speaker 1: I'm like, why do you you know, why do you

946
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Speaker 1: want people to see your snapchat? Because usually snapchat has

947
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Speaker 1: more of a connotation of private. Sure, like this is

948
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Speaker 1: my personal life, you know what I'm doing on Twitter

949
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Speaker 1: and Instagram, But that's different. Now. The thing I thought

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Speaker 1: was funny, what's his what's his snap handle? Ted? Do

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Speaker 1: you have it? Pretty thirteen or something? I'll look it

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Speaker 1: up later. That's a if you think I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to be following along with that stuff when they're going

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Speaker 1: on their visits and stuff, oh, no doubt, crazy, no doubt. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they want to show everyone like look who wants me

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00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. Now I did notice this. I

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Speaker 1: told you this earlier. Brand He only has thirty one

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Speaker 1: posts on Instagram and I haven't followed him for long,

959
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Speaker 1: but it looks like he went there and cleaned up

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00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: some things. Have you seen that before, Dane. That's one

961
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 1: of the first things they tell you is clear out

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Speaker 1: your history. I mean, you don't know what pictures are

963
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: out there, gas mask photos. Yeah, well, we remember when

964
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Speaker 1: Dak got tweeted art when he got drafted. Everyone looked

965
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Speaker 1: back at his tweets, just hyping at Dak fifteen at

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Speaker 1: the time, Dallas Cowboys and then the Tony Romo tweets

967
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: came up right, good point, So it's go look through that.

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Speaker 1: If you've ever said anything bad about an NFL team, deleted.

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00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: But overall, what you're seeing with him pretty clean. Though

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Speaker 1: as far as pretty clean, I mean pretty average, like

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Speaker 1: as far as like just retweeting his own highlights and

972
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: things like that. I do think that he has the

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Speaker 1: most exposure out of these five guys. I looked at

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Speaker 1: and he has oh my gosh. Yeah, And I mean

975
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Speaker 1: he's been playing for Alabama, so he understands that, which

976
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: is a good thing. Next guy looked at was Will Hernandez.

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Speaker 1: That's got to be the other end of the spectrum. Absolutely,

978
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: he rarely tweets. I'm shocked. More active on Instagram, of course,

979
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: But to be honest, he's kind of a boring Instagram

980
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: followed two because it's just game photos. I do like though,

981
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: this was pretty funny because he did out of all

982
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: these like different just game day photos, you'd appreciate this, Brian.

983
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: He has a meme of like somebody carrying somebody out

984
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: of a Chinese buffet. So he's playing on the fact, like,

985
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Speaker 1: I get, I'm an offensive lineman. I get, I eat

986
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Speaker 1: a lot of food, yeah, pounds, Yeah, I know the

987
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: feeling getting carried out of a buffet. Yeah. And so

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Speaker 1: it was like, okay, I like that. You mix that

989
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: up a little sense of humor. Then huh. I talked

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Speaker 1: to him for about ten minutes at the Senior Bowl

991
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: and it didn't granted I'm a reporter, but it did

992
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: not shine through. He was he's he was a bit

993
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: of a surly fellow, which how much would that mix

994
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: with our guys? Oh yeah, hey, this is a business

995
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: minded old line. I really with the exception of Friendliest

996
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: man on the planet Joe Looney, they're all kind of stoic, yeah,

997
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: and so he doesn't have the typical offensive lineman attitude,

998
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: Like if you look at other schools, they're the goofy

999
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: ones the the funny ones outspoken sometimes and he's definitely not.

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Speaker 1: But he does retweet a lot of highlights of like

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Speaker 1: pancake Blox. He very proud of that. There you go,

1002
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Speaker 1: So we're proud of you too when you do those

1003
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Speaker 1: three pounds Brot. Yeah, a lot of pancake. The next one,

1004
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: of course, Vita Vea. We talked about him a bunch

1005
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: of that game. He also announced his draft decision through

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00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: social media. I thought was funny because that was the

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00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: note one looked like he just was like, Okay, I

1008
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 1: guess I gotta tell someone. Oh private Instagram. Private Instagram

1009
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: now not a battling down like you never know, right,

1010
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: hiding and you're about to professional football play. Yeah no,

1011
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 1: I mean some if you can do that, some guys

1012
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: want to keep some things private. Something's you know, like

1013
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: like me personally, I like Twitter is kind of my

1014
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 1: public thing, and Facebook I try to keep my private

1015
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: you know. I. Oh yeah, I don't just accept anybody

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Speaker 1: on Facebook or anything like that. So I understand if

1017
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: players want to do the same thing, well I agree.

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00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: And the only thing I noticed about him is that

1019
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: he has a very serious girlfriend. I don't know how

1020
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 1: long they've been dating, but serious enough that her posts

1021
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: are flooded with him, so you kind of have you know,

1022
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,919
Speaker 1: that's sometimes people forget that that they think, Okay, I'm

1023
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: I'm protecting myself. But if you're letting other people to

1024
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: be part of your life and expose you, you need

1025
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: to also have another conversation with them, like what is she?

1026
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: What has she posted about you? Before? We've all seen

1027
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: what happened with Giselle and Tom Brady. Yeah, you know,

1028
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: sometimes you have to understand that, Hey, Annie Apple, don't

1029
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: tweet this all the time. Yeah, that's another spectrum of

1030
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: this now because people well, I mean, Dave, how many

1031
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: times have you seen like somebody like oh this is

1032
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: what Stacy Elliot had said? Oh yeah, we're looking at

1033
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: not only them on social media, but what are their

1034
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 1: family and friends saying? I'm embarrassed of how many cowboy

1035
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: family members that I follow? Just like two what it

1036
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: was three years ago Orlando Scandrick's fiance tweeted out a

1037
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: picture of his MRI to retore all the ligaments in

1038
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: his legs, Like, yeah, just you never know, you ever

1039
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: never know what you're gonna see from from some of

1040
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: these channels. Seriously, like like stuff you're not supposed to see.

1041
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: She's just like, well, this is what happened to Orlando.

1042
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: It's like a picture of his leg. A lot of

1043
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: family members don't fully grasp they're basically an extension of

1044
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: the player, you know, in terms of perspective, you're trying

1045
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: to figure these kids out. I mean, I know, I

1046
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: think he would be just so valuable to have somebody's expertise,

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Speaker 1: like Tay come in and tell me about these kids.

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Speaker 1: I guarante I bring her the combine, say Okay, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna sit in and listen to me talk to these kids.

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Speaker 1: I guarantee you that there's there's at least a few

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00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: people listening to this segment that are kind of rolling

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00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: their eyes and wondering why this is important. Yeah, guarantee

1053
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: you they're doing this. Oh absolutely, Oh, I guarantee you.

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Speaker 1: Agencies have multiple people just doing that. So they're making

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Speaker 1: sure their clients there's nothing buried on their social media

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Speaker 1: that teams or fans or anybody be able to you know,

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00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: pull up. So everyone's yeah, teams agents two thirds of

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00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: our scouting department have Twitter handles. Yeah, and I get

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00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: feedback on stuff. I tweet all the time. Yeah, and

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00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 1: just like, oh, oh yeah, I forgot y'all are on

1061
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 1: here too, y'all are looking at stuff, y'all are paying attention.

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Speaker 1: I agree. You know a lot of people are always like, oh,

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00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,439
Speaker 1: what does that matter? Just play the game, don't worry

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00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: about that stuff. I'm sorry. But it's all about character though, too.

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00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: It is. It's all about character and it's all about

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00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,720
Speaker 1: marketability these days. I mean, Dak Prescott, only a second

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00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: year guy, is the most endorsed player in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Guarantee you. If he didn't have the social presence he does,

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00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: he would not be there. Yeah, I guarantee that because

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Speaker 1: I mean, who was I talking to the or I

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Speaker 1: was listening to a podcast of the under Armor founder

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Speaker 1: and he was saying, yeah, we only signed guys after

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00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: we look at their social media. Yeah. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: just the way of the world these days. So if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna go, what was our highest best tweet on

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00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: draft night, taco emojia? It was a great tweet, because

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00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 1: it's just all about that nowadays. I mean, they're finding

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Speaker 1: the news out of who these guys, where they're going,

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Speaker 1: or what they like or man, did you know this guy?

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Speaker 1: You know feels this way about this. I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 1: I guarantee you there's some guys that like need to

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Speaker 1: clean up more. Yea, they don't think anyone's looking. I

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Speaker 1: want you to find me a draft prospect who's a

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00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 1: nine to eleven. Okay, that's your goal next week, you guys,

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Speaker 1: I won't be here next week, but it's true maybe

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Speaker 1: I will. Well, we'll get you back for the combine. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for the combine. Me be a list, find me some

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Speaker 1: real dirt. That way we can when we go to

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Speaker 1: the combo, we gonna ask the player. So yeah, two

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Speaker 1: years ago lat Earth theory A yeah, what's going on

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Speaker 1: with this? Hermine Edmunds tweets a lot. Yeah, talk about him. Okay,

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00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: they's likeeen years old, so he's Yeah, he's a Twitter

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00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: handle his main savage, which I really appreciate. Like he's

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Speaker 1: the Virginia Tech linebacker that you know, possibility of the Cowboys. Look,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's with the second best linebacker on your board,

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00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: right or first for some people. Okay, that's what I'm saying. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I depend on which way you want to go. Smith Edmunds,

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Speaker 1: those are the two linebackers. But what'd you find out

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Speaker 1: about him. We love talking about family, and he loves

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Speaker 1: talking about his brother, who was an undrafted rookie for

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Speaker 1: the Saints. I mean he posts about him all the

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Speaker 1: time like and which is awesome. But you know, like, okay,

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Speaker 1: is he going to lean one way because these guys

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00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: are going on different visits? Right? You know that that

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00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 1: impacts too, you know, is he going to give more

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Speaker 1: to his Saints visit than say he would with the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys because he's leaning there, right, you know, and a

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00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: lot of them don't know, like, Okay, yeah, I could

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Speaker 1: go to the Saints be with my brother for a second.

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Speaker 1: There aren't many Rod Smith brother Jalen Smith situations. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that is pretty rare. Yeah, I mean I remember sitting

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Speaker 1: with you brand We asked Rod, like, where's your brother

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Speaker 1: want to go? That was before his injury, right right,

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Speaker 1: I forgot about that. Yeah, Rod was just a practice

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Speaker 1: squad guy at the time, Sue. The last one I

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Speaker 1: looked at was the wide receiver Oklahoma State James Washington.

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Speaker 1: Of course, he was very talked about, or I guess

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Speaker 1: you'd say, like popular at the Senior Bowl. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: week sure didn't. Yeah, and he noticed that as well.

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Speaker 1: He's one of those that searches a name searcher. I

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Speaker 1: love the name sears. It's funny how many of my

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00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: tweets get favorited by Oh, Josh Jackson favorited this tweet

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Speaker 1: and maybe positive about him might be negative. So it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Those guys do live for the name searchers. They're my favorite.

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Speaker 1: He retweeted our article we posted about him us. He

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Speaker 1: posts about Dez all the time. Obviously the connection there,

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00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 1: and it's just it's funny. But he is a true

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Speaker 1: West Texan, y'all. He is at Sanford. Is that where

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Speaker 1: he's from. Well, he posts a lot about hunting, which

1130
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: I thought was kind of unique to his personality and

1131
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: very cool. Yeah, so that was funny, But yes, he's

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Speaker 1: a name searcher. Now. The other thing about name searching,

1133
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: it goes back to their girlfriends are doing it too,

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00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: their family friends. They're like, where's this guy gonna go?

1135
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Speaker 1: Do I need to be friends with him again? Just

1136
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: delete your social media until the drafts over or for good? Really,

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00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know. Social media is the greatest

1138
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Speaker 1: and worst thing everyone. I love social media as a

1139
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: member of the media, but if I was an athlete,

1140
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would be the guy that doesn't happen,

1141
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: Like what's the point. But if you want to make

1142
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: some money, I'll, you know, I'll do five minute oil

1143
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: change here in Dallas. Like look at what Tom Brady did.

1144
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: He just has Tom versus time. That's well present Tom

1145
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: tom Brady is a phenomenon. I mean, like he's got

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Speaker 1: his own team, Like he's probably got a bigger staff

1147
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: putting his social together than we do. Probably that's so.

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00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, if you're the greatest quarterback ever, you

1149
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: can control the message. Well that's what I found for

1150
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: you guys. Well thanks to appreciate that. That was very

1151
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: very good. You know what I mean. It is it's

1152
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: it's really important, you know, and it's something that I

1153
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: never got to experience. I mean, I was my last

1154
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: year in the scouting room was two thousand and five.

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Speaker 1: So we really weren't you know, looking at one year

1156
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Speaker 1: into Facebook and yeah we were Twitter. Yeah we really weren't.

1157
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: You know were I mean you were trying to you

1158
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: were trying to dig information. I always thought, because you know,

1159
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: you're going to give these kids, you know, one hundreds

1160
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: of millions of dollars, you know why not, why not

1161
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: try and figure out as much stuff about him? And

1162
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: I always felt like, you know, could you talk to

1163
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: the equipment man, can you talk to you know, your

1164
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: interview their third grand teachers. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

1165
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: You you go into great depths to try and figure

1166
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Speaker 1: these guys out. I'll give you an example. There was

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00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: a player when I was running the draft in Philadelphia

1168
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: that I talked mister Lurry into spending an significant amount

1169
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Speaker 1: of money to have a private investigator follow Yeah, just

1170
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Speaker 1: because I wanted to know, Just because I wanted to know.

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Speaker 1: And you'll do whatever you have to do. And the

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Speaker 1: social part of it, there is somebody like Taylor who's

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00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: who's an expert at this. You know, if you could

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Speaker 1: draw from that and say, okay, what tell me about

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00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: this kid? What's his makeuperception is reality? Am I going

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00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: to get an immature kid here? You know? Am I

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Speaker 1: going to get a kid that's got his head on?

1178
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: Is he? Is he tweeting out Bible scriptures? Is he

1179
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: always party in? Is he what's he doing? Social media

1180
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 1: helps you figure that out. You can figure that out.

1181
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: I mean, if again you follow Ezekiel, you see a

1182
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: fun guy you want to go out with Zeke. You

1183
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: know you want to go out with him because he's

1184
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: always doing something fun to their tagged photos too. Yeah

1185
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: you saw my ranking. Tis my database of players that

1186
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: you have. I've got you know, the height, weight, hometown,

1187
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: high school, everything. Also the column for Twitter, all the

1188
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: habitter accounts for all these players, because it's important. How

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Speaker 1: many times have you heard people say if they had

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00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: social media back in my day? Michael Irvin says it

1191
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: all the time. Oh yeah, no doubt. Yeah, that's great. Helly,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for throwing up. We always appreciate

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Speaker 1: taste takes and the stern look. I want to thank

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Speaker 1: Dan Burglar, David Helman, Ki Garrison, and I want to

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Speaker 1: thank everybody out there for watching us today and if

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Speaker 1: you're catching us live or you're catching us later on,

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Speaker 1: we do appreciate that. We'll be back next Monday for

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Speaker 1: more of the Draft show, so stay tuned then. This

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