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Speaker 1: Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I am pumped about today's episode Mark Eastern. Are you

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Speaker 1: guys excited beyond Beyond? Mark? You have not been here

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Speaker 1: for a minute. What's going on with you? I have not.

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Speaker 1: You kind of left me hanging there for a little bit.

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Speaker 1: You know, I have so many different things and I

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Speaker 1: want to be here every time, and some weeks it

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Speaker 1: just doesn't work out. But I'm here now. We should

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Speaker 1: focus on that, all right, focus on the positive, right,

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Speaker 1: that's all about the positive. Um. Well, you know who

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Speaker 1: is here who hasn't left my side is my best

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Speaker 1: friend Katherine. Hey, guys, Hi Catherine? Are you so? I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you listen to last week's episode. Did

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Speaker 1: you listen to it? No? You didn't. I kind of

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Speaker 1: mentioned you. I'm worried. That's why I haven't listened yet. No.

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Speaker 1: I I mentioned you because I told the story about

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Speaker 1: the night after I filed for divorce and I had

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Speaker 1: to take the kids to school and you were in

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Speaker 1: the kitchen and I came out and I was having

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Speaker 1: like a full blown panic attack and I was just like,

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Speaker 1: I can't take the kids to school, and you were

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Speaker 1: like and I was waiting for you to say I'll

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Speaker 1: take them. I know, I know you were, and you

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Speaker 1: didn't say it, and I'm like, why isn't she saying

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Speaker 1: she'll take the kids? I can't you see him having

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Speaker 1: a panic attack on the floor and I'm sweating and

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Speaker 1: I'm crying, and I'm like, and you were like, you

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Speaker 1: didn't even give me a day. You tough love me

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Speaker 1: so fast. Well, first off, I didn't realize us mad

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Speaker 1: the night, so I had no contacts in Okay, let's

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Speaker 1: just start there, so I knew I physically was not

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Speaker 1: driving your kids to school. Um, but I did say, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have this panic attack right now, and then

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get better and we're gonna take your kids

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Speaker 1: to school and it's gonna be fine, and then you

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Speaker 1: can come home and then you can cry for the

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Speaker 1: next four hours. I did say that, Yeah, and my

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Speaker 1: tough loved you. I'm sorry, no, no, but I think

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Speaker 1: it was you tough love me. But I think I

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Speaker 1: needed it because in that moment, that day was the

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Speaker 1: determining factor if I was going to let anxiety rule

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Speaker 1: my life or not, because I was just like, I've

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Speaker 1: never done anything by myself. You know, it was always

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Speaker 1: like Mike and I and it was like we did

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Speaker 1: this together, and we did that together, and the thought

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Speaker 1: of doing something by myself gave me so much anxiety

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Speaker 1: that I was like, I don't even know if I

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Speaker 1: can physically drive my kids, which I know I'm capable,

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Speaker 1: but when I'm in that state, I don't feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm capable of doing anything. And I was like, I

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Speaker 1: don't even know if I can drive them ten minutes,

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Speaker 1: which is actually like eight minutes their school. But that's

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Speaker 1: how like messed up I was. But it was because

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Speaker 1: I felt like I came off I was coming off

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Speaker 1: anxiety that I was just and it was like, and

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Speaker 1: if you would have in a sense enabled me that day,

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Speaker 1: because in my mind, I'm like, God, catherinely Case, you see,

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Speaker 1: like I'm like having a massive panic attack and I

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Speaker 1: need you as my best friend to take my kids

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Speaker 1: to school. But it's like, give me a freaking week to, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, cry about this. Well, I think I know

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Speaker 1: you well enough to know that you needed for me

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Speaker 1: not to enable you right then. I mean, first of all,

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Speaker 1: I come from, you know, a drug addict, mother. You know,

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Speaker 1: I come from the past of addicts, and I've recognized

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Speaker 1: that in you. Um, and I know that me enabling

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Speaker 1: you in that moment, it would have been easy, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean could I physically have driven them. I mean

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Speaker 1: I would have been squinting, but I could have driven them.

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Speaker 1: It would have been ugly, But I knew that I

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Speaker 1: had to give you no choice. I couldn't come over

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Speaker 1: every day and take your kids to school. You know,

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Speaker 1: I can't do it. I have my own three kids.

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Speaker 1: I can't physically do that for you. Um. We can

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Speaker 1: hire somebody to do it for you, but you're not

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Speaker 1: I knew you as a mother, you had to you know.

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Speaker 1: but um, but you did it, and you came home

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Speaker 1: and you asked me to stay, and I'll never forget.

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Speaker 1: she needs. You got back and you're like, all right,

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Speaker 1: it can come off bad sometimes, but I think sometimes,

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Speaker 1: especially the way that you can be, I think that

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Speaker 1: you need it and then that you need the other

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Speaker 1: stuff too. But yeah, I mean, you know me more

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Speaker 1: in that moment, what I truly needed was that tough love.

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Speaker 1: And I think because of that, and I almost and

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Speaker 1: I say this to like, thank you too, because if

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Speaker 1: had to pull up my big girl pants on because

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Speaker 1: you got this. You've got two kids, you need to

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Speaker 1: do this. And and you know, yeah, did I bawl

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Speaker 1: my entire way home, like for sure, but you know

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Speaker 1: it was literally like a drug. I was like, I

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Speaker 1: or I'm gonna like or I'm gonna need like because

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Speaker 1: my person in the living room being like y'all, let

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Speaker 1: you explain it. It's kind of the bodyguard just kind

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Speaker 1: of terrifying. Um no, that's that's exactly right. You. You

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Speaker 1: and I think you know. I mean, I literally sat

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Speaker 1: I said no, I said, please do not go in there.

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Speaker 1: You've done enough. Let her be, just let her be.

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Speaker 1: sorry and like and give me that hit, because that's

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Speaker 1: but you recognize it now, I do, but you did

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Speaker 1: with you and you said, no, I need you to

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Speaker 1: I wanted that hit, but I also know what that

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Speaker 1: fault as that you know, I'm definitely too independent. Um,

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Speaker 1: of the next step that will be hard for you. Mark.

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Speaker 1: what a great friend to have. I mean, my gosh.

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Speaker 1: Everybody should be so lucky to have a Katherine in

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Speaker 1: their life. I mean, that's amazing that she was there

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Speaker 1: That's selfless. So I'm very impressed with that, Katherine. But

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Speaker 1: also I'm just taken back to that night. So it

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Speaker 1: was Mike served at your house. Yeah, so it was

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Speaker 1: and that even like dealing with that. I mean it

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Speaker 1: felt like a movie, did it not. When we were

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Speaker 1: We look from the time we're born, we're kind of

428
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Speaker 1: taught this fairy tale let someone else come com pleats us,

429
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 1: that something outside of us completes us. Everything is within.

430
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,120
Speaker 1: There's a teaching that goes like this, like Jesus would

431
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 1: say things like, and to his disciples, you know, do

432
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 1: not build temples. God lives here and he would point

433
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 1: out his chest or you could look at you know,

434
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,959
Speaker 1: stayings by Buddha. Budda would say things like in the text,

435
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,400
Speaker 1: everything outside of ourselves as ignorance. Everything is within. So

436
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 1: every set of religion tradition talks about the sense that

437
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 1: we are all connected to the same place. We are

438
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 1: all kind of put into this spighty sense of knowing

439
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 1: our truth. So and we all have this kind of

440
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 1: pattern or something that we're here to learn. And Jenny,

441
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 1: you're kind of stepping into this knowing nous that was

442
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 1: always there. There's just part of you that didn't want

443
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 1: to trust it because there was a part of you

444
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 1: that may have wanted something, but it was in love

445
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 1: with the idea of somebody not really who they were.

446
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Okay? So intuitively, you know, I

447
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 1: could rhyme off a bunch of things, say like I

448
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 1: know that you're meant to go into the different days,

449
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 1: Like I know you're meant to have children, I know

450
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 1: that you're gonna get that person that comes to the

451
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 1: same values as you do, and and all that sort

452
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 1: of stuff. I know that all of those things are

453
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 1: going to work out for you because you're stepping into

454
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 1: your greatness. Now, you're listening to your soul. There was

455
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: a time before where you weren't listening. You were looking

456
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 1: outside of yourself for those answers and looking for something

457
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 1: or someone to complete that part of yourself that felt

458
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 1: that need to um feel this completeness. But that completeness

459
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,360
Speaker 1: was always there, and you're finally seeing that light within

460
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,640
Speaker 1: yourself to step into that. That makes sense. Yeah, um,

461
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 1: so this is what you know. I kind of want

462
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 1: to share with you is that intuitively, what you're being

463
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 1: called to task to you right now is to find

464
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: forgiveness for things that you may not understand. M is

465
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: to look at somebody and say, I can have love

466
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: for you, but I don't need to love your behavior

467
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 1: because something would have brought you together with all let's say,

468
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 1: all of our past relationships and always like you would

469
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,239
Speaker 1: have loved for that person. They may hurt you, they

470
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,239
Speaker 1: may do things to spite you, they may um disrespect you,

471
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,199
Speaker 1: but there was a time where you were in the uh,

472
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 1: you share dinners together, you had these experiences, you have children,

473
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: whatever that is, there was a time. So somebody does

474
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: something that doesn't stand up to the same value that

475
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: you have the ideas to have compassion for it. But

476
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean you have to condone the behavior, nor

477
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you need to stay in something that

478
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: doesn't vibrate at the same alignment that you're at. M

479
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,439
Speaker 1: You either grow together or you grow apart. There's no

480
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: in between. So sometimes we just have to say tata

481
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: for now. We'll continue all this journey, just not the

482
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 1: way we were doing it before. And that's really kind

483
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: of where you're at is learning that you were complete

484
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 1: your whole and now it's allowing to see that you

485
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: can have somebody in your life but not looking for

486
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: something to complete you in it. That makes sense then,

487
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 1: you know, and God is going to bring you into that.

488
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: You know, this is this is kind of the awakening

489
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 1: that has been bestowed on you. Beautifully is coming into

490
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: your own shining your light. You have all these amazing

491
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 1: things coming up for you. Um, I can just it's

492
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: kind of like I use this example like I see

493
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: it's almost like I watch people's movies and things come

494
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: up at me and I can really see how things

495
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: are going to pan out, Like I feel like there's

496
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 1: something important. Um, God loving honey. I don't listen to

497
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: your music, but you must be a singer, because I

498
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 1: just keep seeing all this music stuff that's coming up

499
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: that you're supposed to be going into. Like some of

500
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: us have to shed our skins to go to the

501
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: next level, or think of like a snake shedding its skin.

502
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: And there's just certain things that we're holding you back.

503
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: And sometimes it is a relationship, sometimes it's a friendship.

504
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's our own personal things that we do in

505
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 1: our self sabotaging. So this was something that was distracting

506
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: you from not allowing you to fulfill your destiny here,

507
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 1: so that had to be let go to jump into

508
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: the next thing. So everything is a series of beginnings

509
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: and endings, beginnings and endings in our whole life. And

510
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: that's the journey that you're starting to see. And when

511
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: you pull back, which I know intuitably you've been doing,

512
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: to really see like what's the issue here? What has

513
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: actually gone on? You know, I have accomplished what I

514
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 1: wanted to do out of this relationship I still have

515
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: love for at that certain person, but I no longer

516
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: want to continue down this path because it doesn't make

517
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 1: me feel connected in the way that I want to feel.

518
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 1: I felt more alone in this than I felt connected.

519
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: So that tells you something, and that means when we

520
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: feel alone, it means we're not connected to our God's center.

521
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: So we're never really truly alone. We have the angels

522
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: God to all this beautiful energy around us all the time.

523
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 1: The sense of loneliness really just means that you're not

524
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: in touch inside. You're not in tuning to your own

525
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: soul's growth and your soul's voice. That's all that that is.

526
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: So no one can really hurt you if you allow

527
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: it to. But when you realize you're already complete and

528
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: you're already in that place, you'll just guide through that

529
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 1: and you'll look at that person with compassion and love

530
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: and just say, I just don't choose to love that behavior,

531
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: and I choose to move on this path. If you

532
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: want to meet me with my value is great. If

533
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: you don't, I have to let it go. That's sometimes

534
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: is a way of truly loving somebody when we let

535
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: go of conditions and how we want someone to be

536
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: versus what they really are. That makes sense. So you know,

537
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: forgiveness isn't something that happens overnight, and you can forgive

538
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: something within yourself or someone within yourself. Um, but you've

539
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: been on this journey for so long that I'm sure

540
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: this has been a breath of fresh air kind of

541
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: coming into the decision that you needed to do. And

542
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: anybody can look afar and say, you know, this person

543
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: should do that or could have done that, It doesn't matter.

544
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 1: Everybody has their own journey and they need to learn

545
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: on their own and their epiphanies will come, and all

546
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: we need to do is hold the space for everybody

547
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: so they learn on their own path. You know, to

548
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 1: judge really come from a place of being judgmental. To

549
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: really love is to really be present and to support

550
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,959
Speaker 1: whatever journey that person is on, no matter if we

551
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: like it or not. Right, you get what I'm saying.

552
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't think you've ever liked my Well,

553
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 1: it's been a hard one to learn and to sit

554
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: back and watch. But you know, I just said earlier,

555
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 1: Terra that I very much believe in timing, and I

556
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: think that the timing for this for her it had

557
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 1: to be this time. It couldn't have been two times

558
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: before when I thought that she should have been done,

559
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: you know, I mean it wasn't It wasn't her path

560
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: and it wasn't her timing. And I think that's yeah,

561
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: it lines up really well. Yeah, and that's Janda, that's

562
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: what you said like a couple of years ago. I

563
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: guess when we had spoken. We've come full circle, which

564
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 1: a lot of people come back to seeing me, which

565
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: is great. So I'm happy because I want to spread

566
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: love that way, you know, and teach people to empower

567
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: themselves and trusting their intuition. But that was it. It's like,

568
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: no matter what message was delivered at that time, it

569
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: served a purpose to sit there and when you were

570
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 1: ready to listen and receive it, it was available to you.

571
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: Nothing's lost in the eyes of God, honey, it's just

572
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: the journey we have to walk. Like, how do we

573
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: know what we want when we don't experience what we

574
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: don't want? Right? So everything is a blessing no matter

575
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 1: what it is, you know, especially this experience now that

576
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: you've just been through energetically has taught you that there's

577
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: this place where you can look at somebody and thank

578
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: them from reminding you to love yourself. Like what if

579
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: this whole experience was exactly the way it was, so

580
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: it reminded you to step into your power. So instead

581
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: of saying I dislike you, I hate you, I just

582
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: despise anything to say thank you for reminding me of

583
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: who I am, the love that I hold, and my

584
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: gone set through that I'm supposed to do here in

585
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: this life. I love that. Wasn't that the blessing? Yeah?

586
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: I love that? Because I have had so much like

587
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: hate and like anger for like ruining the family and

588
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: stuff and what I wanted, and because, like you said,

589
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: like you know, I grew up in a divorce family,

590
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: so I always said, like when I have kids, I

591
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: will I will not let that happen. And so that's

592
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: been the biggest disappointment for me that I feel like

593
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: I failed them. And but but to to your point,

594
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: like what you just said, like one day I hope

595
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: to be like thank you, like because I'll have found

596
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: my worth even though it was you know that was

597
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: that person was trying to take it, you know, but

598
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: it really wasn't like that they had their own issues

599
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: with their own self worth too. So it's not so.

600
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: I just I would love to be able to have

601
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: that one day, to just be like thankful for it.

602
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,479
Speaker 1: And you will, because we'll come full circle again at

603
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: some point in our lives and we'll have this conversation

604
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: like remember when you told me I'll be able to

605
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: look at him with love and forgiveness. I'm like, I'm there.

606
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: It doesn't bother. I said, I told you, honey, you

607
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: will get there right now. You have to grieve. A

608
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: loss is a loss is a loss. It's all the same,

609
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: a death, a relationship. So you just have to grieve

610
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: all those moments. It's okay to be angry. You know.

611
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: When we're little, girls were told, you know, be a

612
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: good girl, be smile. Girls don't are allowed to get angry.

613
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: You know. There's all these kind of fixed beliefs that

614
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: are bestowed upon us. But it's okay to be angry.

615
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: So to say like, I don't like your behavior. I've

616
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: got love for that, but I don't like that, and

617
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: I need space right now and I need my boundaries

618
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: because I need to heal through this. That's more powerful,

619
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: and that's being honest about how your emotions are. You

620
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: saying like I can still you know, like things about you,

621
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: but I don't have to like this, that and everything

622
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: else about you. So it's it's really about you set

623
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: the boundaries, like no one can take anything from you.

624
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: No one can really hurt you unless you allow them to, right.

625
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: So that's really where it goes, is that you are

626
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: really in that place. So any time that you feel

627
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: that you're being lonely or or separated out, or that

628
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: anger starts, to sit be with it and be like,

629
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to express this anger. I'm gonna grab my

630
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: junk journal, I'm gonna start writing, and it can be

631
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: the most culpful words you want to use. No one's

632
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: ever going but read it. No one's gonna look at us.

633
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: Nobody's business. Okay, you can call them all the names

634
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: under the sun or whoever that is you want to

635
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: direct that energy to. Then rip it up and throw

636
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: it out. Just because you're feeling anchor doesn't mean it's

637
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: your truth and doesn't mean who you really are. It's

638
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: just a it's an emotion. We're emotional beings. I'm sure

639
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: you've heard this world saying that goes, you know where

640
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: these spiritual beings having emotional moments on earth, like that's

641
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: really what we are, and we're fully present in our

642
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: ego and all of that's there. It's like we are

643
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: meant to experience this fully and holy honey, and it's

644
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: gonna hurt sometimes and it's gonna be uncomfortable. There's this

645
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: little kind of secret that no one really talks about,

646
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: and I love really kind of bringing it up. Is

647
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: that our soulmate relationships are the ones that are going

648
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: to challenge us the most to grow. They're not easy.

649
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: It's not unicorns and rainbows and fun times. No, they

650
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: make us grow. So that's really what it is. And

651
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: that's kind of when I go back to thanking that

652
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: person saying thank you reminding me of my life, thank

653
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: you for reminding me my God center, and thank you

654
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: for allowing me to grow. And now I've outgrown this

655
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: and I bless your path just as I'm asking you

656
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: to bless mine. You know, that's really what is the

657
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: dynamic here. So you know, anybody can chime in on

658
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: comment and say, well you should have done this, should

659
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: have done that. You know them themselves are coming into

660
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: this have not been through that because they would not

661
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: judge it if they did. Does that make sense, you know,

662
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: so it really comes. Everybody's going to have opinion, But

663
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: anybody that has gone through the darkness to see the

664
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: light will just hold the space, honey. That's what they do.

665
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: They hold the space or a soft place for you

666
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: to fall, let all the emotions out, and help you

667
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: work through that emotion so you come out of the

668
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: other side the version what you were born to be,

669
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: which is light and love and to inspire and and

670
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: just beat. That's all you need to do. Just be

671
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: mm hmm. I like that. Do we do we see

672
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: a happy ending at the end of all of this

673
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: or one hundred and a bazillion percent percent? But I

674
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: really would love you to reflect on and into it.

675
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: Like I said, you have gods, you have loved ones

676
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: that are here. Like that's that's great, that's all there.

677
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: But that's not really what the focus. What why you

678
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: and I are crossing paths again. The focus is to

679
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: remind you that fullal here we are again, right, is

680
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: that there you are receiving these messages and to trust

681
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: it more and more and more and not to delay them.

682
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: Is that you are connected to the same place I am.

683
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: Everyone is, and it's it's trusting, not and that it

684
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: may not be an alignment with what you think you

685
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: want at the time, but that saying does go Sometimes

686
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: God doesn't give us what we want, gives us what

687
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: we need, okay, And that you needed to kind of

688
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: go through all of this, and that you are going

689
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: to be coming to that vibrational alignment with someone who

690
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: has the same values, that wants those same things. And

691
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: let me just put it this way. You know, you

692
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: live a very public life. I mean, it's obvious. It's

693
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: kind of like an emails. I'm like, are you sure

694
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: you want to have this conversation? You know, I always

695
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: give all my clients because you know, I've got a lot.

696
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: I've got a lot of public, very high profile people

697
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: that I talked with on a regular basis, you know,

698
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: and I helped them through these sort of things. But

699
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: the thing is, for me, not everybody likes it public

700
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: and stuff do and it's just more of a personality thing.

701
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: So I'm always double check. I'm like, are you sure

702
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: this is what you want? You know, I just want

703
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: to double check because things may come out that you

704
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: may not be comfortable. So it's all good, and I

705
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: think the wrongness and being authentic and This is most

706
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: important part because you are helping and healing people through this.

707
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: You know other people are listening right now, going, yes,

708
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: this resonates. Yes, I understand that this is what I've

709
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: wanted to achieve, This is what I wanted to forgive.

710
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: This is how I need to remind myself when I'm

711
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: kind of up against the wall and something like what

712
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: would love do in this situation? People say, what would

713
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: Jesus do? What? But what would love to love? Would

714
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: find compassion, loveould find all these sort of things. So

715
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: you come into this beautiful alignment with who you are

716
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: and where you vibrate so that person gets there. And

717
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: I think you hit it on the head when you

718
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: said about your ax. You know he was dealing with

719
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: his worthiness issues. A person that truly truly loves themselves

720
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: and isn't a place of peace doesn't go and do

721
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: things that would hurt the person that they're with. I

722
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: don't believe that this was intentional at all. I believe

723
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: this person is going through their own sufferings. So this

724
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: is where we hold that space for that person and

725
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: say I don't like that, but I can understand, and

726
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: you need to get help. And this is how you

727
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: need to get help, right. You know, I think we're

728
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: so quick to point fingers at other people, saying you

729
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: wronged me, I wronged you, You're bad, I'm good. Like

730
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: we do this instead of really looking at the bigger

731
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: picture to say, where do I need to be kind

732
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: in this? Where do I need to find love in this?

733
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: Where do I need to set my boundaries? But where

734
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: do I need to hold that space for them? And

735
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: sometimes holling that space is literally like cutting off the

736
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: lifeline and just saying, here's here's some help, this is

737
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: what you need to go do. But that's like you're

738
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: going to move on from that. But here's my little

739
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: intuitive hit, like this isn't done here. You know, you

740
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: still have a journey with this person that isn't fully

741
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: completed yet. You may be signing on the divorce paper, sunny,

742
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: but it's it's not done. So there's still some growth

743
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: here that's going to happen. And I think it's important

744
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: that you do spend time internalizing and working with your

745
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 1: God's center and your love center and all those things

746
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: and rebuilding that relationship with yourself so you feel that

747
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: strength to work through these next steps. But you will

748
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: align as you go through that with a person that

749
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: is connected to what you want, because the two of

750
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: you didn't have the same wants in life, and that's

751
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: what ended up happening, is that you both went on

752
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: different paths. At one point you did okay that that

753
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: again it's a soul mate relationship. But then it became

754
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: to an end. And so it started due to the

755
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: fork in the road and split and then we fight

756
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 1: and then we hired them. We can't trust and we

757
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: dislike and it just starts to get worse and worse

758
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: and worse before it gets better. But I'm sure you

759
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: felt that overwhelming sense of relief when it finally was done,

760
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: Like you no longer felt like you had to walk

761
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: in eggshells or you were fearful of something happening. It

762
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: was like it was almost like a bittersweet moment, right,

763
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Yeah, it's like something sets you free. Yep, Tara,

764
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 1: I I so appreciate you. And where can our listeners? Um,

765
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: where can they find you? Where can you help them

766
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: give us all the info? Sure, you can go to

767
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 1: Tarry Taylor dot c a Canadian candidate. So Terry Teler

768
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: dot c A you can find me there, um you

769
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: can find me. I don't spend a lot of time

770
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: on social media. I'm just one of those I'm too

771
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: busy doing sessions and those sort of things. But you

772
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: can see me on Facebook. I don't go on there,

773
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: but people tend to follow me on Instagram. I think

774
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: it's Tara Taylor, Indigo or Intuitive or something like that.

775
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: But if you go on my website you can see

776
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: all that information and then soon you'll start seeing I'm

777
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: kind of behind the scenes doing some writing projects um

778
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 1: in Hollywood, so that would be very very exciting. Yeah. Yeah,

779
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: So for me, it's about spreading love and how do

780
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: we help that generation. We've got to do it in

781
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: a way that teaching the new ways on how to

782
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 1: work with her intuition. That's not so woe. Yeah, for sure.

783
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: I love that. Well, Tara, thank you so much for

784
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: coming on Wine Down. Appreciate it very very very much.

785
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: God bless you, honey. You take care, You'll be just fine. Okay,

786
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: thanks Tara, all right, by girl. My soul has been

787
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: spoken to love. That's so good. But I am very

788
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: excited to um have Devon Franklin on next. He's incredible

789
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: and he's got a new book out called Live Free,

790
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: So I'm excited to talk to him about everything and

791
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: hopefully he can inspire us all. Be back in a

792
00:36:54,600 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: sec Divine. Hey, I'm Janna. This is Katherine. What's going on?

793
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: Hey good? How are you? Oh? My goodness? Like I

794
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: cannot thank you enough for coming on this podcast, of course. No, no,

795
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: you know. Amy reaches out and says, it's for y'all.

796
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, I'm here. Can I just have some

797
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: of that energy and like, personally, you're just so you're

798
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: you're like your light is just you're just you're happy.

799
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: Oh well, I try. Right now, I'm feeling a little scruffy.

800
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm in pre production on my next movie, so I'm like, man,

801
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: I'm in it, but I'm like, you know what, it's cool.

802
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna come through however, I am. I'm glad

803
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: the energy is right. Yeah, No, you're you're you have

804
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: a great energy, very light. I like, it's it's im

805
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: I need some of that right now. I'm going through

806
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: just a real real bad, yucky divorce and it's just

807
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: I just um any any and all like things that

808
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: you can give me to just like get me up

809
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 1: and feeling happy and positive, because feeling just like defeated

810
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: and worried and anxious. What makes you feel the most defeated? Um?

811
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: Sorry any time talking about my kids to get upset,

812
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: just that I let my kids down. Mhm, you know,

813
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 1: just like I mean, I guess, I you know, I've

814
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: officially was the one that ended things. You know, I

815
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: had to walk away because it wasn't right anymore. Um,

816
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: it was, it was bad. But I think, you know,

817
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: just growing up with expectations, and I know in your

818
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: new book Live Free, like you talk about expectations, and

819
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: so I had this expectation for myself and for my family,

820
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: and now that I couldn't live up to that expectation

821
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: and have that perfect family for them, I have a

822
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: lot of guilt about that. I'm curious what you do

823
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: with expectations and how you can kind of redirect my

824
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: way of thinking. Yeah, I mean, you know, first of all,

825
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: I mean it's I think it's courageous of you to

826
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: be as transparent as you are and to be as

827
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 1: in touch with how you're feeling. Um. I think also,

828
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: you know, where did that idea you know, this is

829
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: what perfection looks like? Where does that come from? Because

830
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: if you look at it from the opposite, Okay, if

831
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 1: I were to stay in something that was untrue, if

832
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 1: I were to stay in something that is against who

833
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: I am just for the image, what has that then

834
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: project to your children? So the idea that you you

835
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: are modeling, no matter what, no matter how the chips

836
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: may fall, no matter how difficult, call put your truth

837
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: as your light. That doesn't sound like defeat to me.

838
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: That sounds like victory because you're displaying. Yo, this is difficult,

839
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: it's hard. But again, and I don't know all the

840
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: particulars alleged of decision, and no one needs to know

841
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 1: those those particulars, um, but you know why you made

842
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: the decision, and you know that it was a decision

843
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: that you felt you needed to make, and so owning

844
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: that and not and not trying to live up to

845
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: because because I guess what, your kids don't have the

846
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: expectation that you do. They just have an expectation of

847
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: being loved, cared for. Heard, when they're hungry they want food. Hey,

848
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 1: when I want some shoes, MoMA not needs some shoes.

849
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: You know that. That's it. It's like hey, And so

850
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: sometimes we come into a situation, um, you know, especially

851
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: you know, you're a marriage, Like, here's what I wanted

852
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: it to be, and this was my expectation of it

853
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: and and the reality and the expectation. If we don't

854
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: reckon sildbos too, it can be devastating. Um So I

855
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: would just say specifically on this part of it, you know,

856
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 1: just to not look at yourself and defeat. That's that's

857
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: an energy that's not going to bring you anything. You know,

858
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: you're courageous, you you you are victorious, you are are

859
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 1: are a warrior for your truth and that no one

860
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: can take it from you, and you shouldn't take it

861
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: from yourself either, you know, to stand up and do

862
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: what you're doing and to say what you're saying, and too,

863
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: you know, finally say hey, you know, I gotta be respected.

864
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: I gotta have boundaries, because boundaries are a sign of love.

865
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: I love myself enough to know when certain bounties have

866
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: been crossed and I've got to do the work to

867
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: repair those boundaries by making a difficult choice that I

868
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: believe will impact the rest of my life and my

869
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: children's life in a positive way. So that's your truth,

870
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: that's your path, and I would just encourage you to

871
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: work on looking at it more from from an advantage

872
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: point of victory, not defeat. Mhm, yeah like that. How

873
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: do you like it? You know? Your book is called

874
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: titled Live Free. What what is living free to you?

875
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: Look like? Um? You know, living free to me looks like, Um,

876
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: I get to control how I feel. I get to

877
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 1: control how I live. I get to decide the expectations

878
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: that I meet. Um, I don't give anyone the power

879
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: to make me feel the way I don't want to feel.

880
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: You know. So in the book I talk about the

881
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: definition of living free is not being under the mental, emotional,

882
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 1: or physical control of anyone or anything. That I am

883
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: the keeper of my happiness. I am the keeper of

884
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: my emotions. I am the keeper of my expectations. I'm

885
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 1: the keeper of my desk. So that's what I say.

886
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: That's what I mean by living free, like free to

887
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: be who I am, not who people expect me to be,

888
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 1: because that image is a prison. It's a prison because

889
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,479
Speaker 1: then I get into that prison. And I talked about

890
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: this in the book, you know. I mean I grew

891
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: up people call me Mr. Perfect and I thought that

892
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: was a great thing. And if I got older, I

893
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: said this is terrible as a prison because the persona

894
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: then becomes the bars by which I had to live

895
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: to because people have never expected to make a mistake.

896
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: But I'm like, I'm human, I'm gonna make mistakes. So

897
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: I first had of letting myself out of the prison.

898
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, I'm not perfect. And then too, I

899
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: had to not worry about how people perceive me so much,

900
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: because that perception also creates a prison. You know, Okay,

901
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: everybodys expecting you to be divone and what that means

902
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: and and and all of that. It's like, well, no, yeah,

903
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: I gotta be me, and in a certain moment, I

904
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: might be a little different than what you think I am,

905
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: but I can't allow your thought to be my thought

906
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: about myself. That's freedom, that's freedom, and that's what I

907
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: talked about in this book because so often we're not

908
00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: living free. So often most of the moves are made

909
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: because of how it looks. What people are gonna say,

910
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 1: what parents may say, what your friends may say, what

911
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 1: they may say, and we always focus on what they say.

912
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 1: What about what I say? M What about me taking

913
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 1: more say over my life? And that's what this book

914
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: is all about, Like taking the control back, taking the

915
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: authority back, and finding that freedom because I, in my experience,

916
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,959
Speaker 1: I see so many people living for everybody else, doing

917
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: what everybody else wants them to do. Over obligated, stressed out,

918
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: not happy. Why Because they're trying to be everything to

919
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: everybody and they're really being nothing to themselves. So when

920
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: I talk about being living free, it's about saying, yeah,

921
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm committed to everyone else as well being,

922
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: but I'm first committing committed to mine. Because if I

923
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: don't take care of my well being, I can't take

924
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: care of your well being. If I don't fill me up,

925
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: I can't fill you up. I talk about this filled cups,

926
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 1: field cups. So if I'm filled up, I got something

927
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: to get. But if I'm not filled up, I can't

928
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: give you anything. So this is the path to me

929
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: about freeing. This is what it means. To live for

930
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: you means like, what is keeping me back? What is

931
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: keeping me captive emotionally, physically, mentally, And let me do

932
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: everything I can to break out of that because my

933
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: real piece, my happiness, my contentment, is in the freedom

934
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: to be who are. I hear that, and I love that.

935
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: I'm just curious if there's ever because I remember, you know,

936
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: my my X and I we had wrote a book

937
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: together and it was it was one of those things

938
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: where I almost felt like we had to live up

939
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 1: to this expectation, you know, even though it was, um,

940
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: you know, I was fighting a good fight, like doing

941
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: these things, but you know, um, I'm wonder for you, like,

942
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: is that hard where it's like, you know, because you

943
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: are you have all these different hats that you wear,

944
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: and you you know, your motivational speaker, and you write

945
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: you know, amazing book and it's like, do you ever

946
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: sometimes feel like even in your relationship or you're just

947
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: like like you almost feel like like I kind of

948
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,959
Speaker 1: felt like a well, I was a con artist after

949
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: that book came out because I'm like it was real

950
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: for me, but it wasn't for him. So it's just like,

951
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 1: do you ever struggle with that? I know you have listen.

952
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: It's so great that we can have that conversation. It's

953
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: very few people then I talked to have co authored

954
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: a book with their spouse, so it's like, okay. So

955
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: so that part of it is like, you know, I've

956
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: had to get to the place and we've had to

957
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: get to the place where we don't let that book,

958
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: that image become the prison by which we live. So

959
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: you're right, there's no doubt the moment, you know. And

960
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: when we wrote our book the way, you know, we

961
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: just did it because that was our truth. You know,

962
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, this is our true let's go talk

963
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: about it. We were not fully cognizant of the expect

964
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: pation that came with that. It was huge and it

965
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: was an amazing book too, by the way. We got

966
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: sent that book and it was it was incredible, but yeah,

967
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 1: well there you go. So it was like, okay, yeah,

968
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: we just wrote this book because you know, oh yeah,

969
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: we should do it. We want to tell our story

970
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 1: help others. The intent was great. The intended nothing to

971
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: do with but we see everything to do with building

972
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: people up. However, to your point, coming out of it

973
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: in the book being so successful, at times, there has

974
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: been this like oh, we gotta we gotta live up

975
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 1: to that, and that created a lot of pressure for

976
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: for her, it created a lot of pressure for me,

977
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 1: and I think that, you know, just recently we were

978
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 1: getting to the place where we are okay with being

979
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: different than how we were when we wrote that book.

980
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: We're okay with, you know, saying hey, we believe in

981
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: what we wrote, but we don't. But we have our

982
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: down days to you know what I mean, Like like

983
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: people see that image on that cover and they're like,

984
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: that's what I want, and that is and that is

985
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: a trap because we're all fallible, we all fall short

986
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: of the glory of God, we all make mistakes. And

987
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 1: the intent for us and putting that image out there

988
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: wasn't to say, hey, we want you all to aspire

989
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: to this. No, we want you to aspire to your truth.

990
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: And so we have personally we love the message and

991
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: we'll continue to talk about the message, but we've had

992
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: to also get to the place where we are okay

993
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: with knowing that our journey is our journey. There are

994
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: some moments in some days. Our truth is our truth,

995
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: and we have really tried to resist the temptation to

996
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: try to live up to what that image is. That

997
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: was our truth, then this is our truth. Now we're

998
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: on a journey. Every day, we're changing, we're growing, we're

999
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 1: being But like, if I feel like I gotta show

1000
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: up and be like, hey, that's the way guys, like

1001
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: you know, I don't feel that I feel like, yeah,

1002
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show up. It's divine to day, you know,

1003
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: and and hey let's go where it goes. But um,

1004
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: I I feel like, you know, very few people have

1005
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: been able to talk to you know, who've been able

1006
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 1: to who have had that experience of like there you are,

1007
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: your love is on the cover, and that love becomes

1008
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: the image. So I understand what you're saying, and it's

1009
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: something that we, uh, you know, that we just work

1010
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: to not allow to creep into our our marriage and

1011
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: become disrupted. What do you say to the people that

1012
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: are stuck that can't get out of you know, their

1013
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: depression or um, like I've given very vulnerable uh example,

1014
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: Like I I have a really hard time being alone

1015
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: and so you know, I've since my ex has moved

1016
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: out and I'm just alone in the house. Obviously my

1017
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: kids and you know are in bed, but um I

1018
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: just sit in my literally sit in my living room,

1019
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: and I'm like I don't even know what to do.

1020
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: Like I just feel like I was like I would

1021
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: love to like go do this or do that? Like

1022
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 1: how do I get myself to be like to unstick

1023
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: myself from from that kind of just like staring at

1024
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 1: the walls, like at my walls are just like dark

1025
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: and closing in. Okay, Um, you know what comes to

1026
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 1: mind is, um, this is gonna sound like a total tangent,

1027
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: but it's coming to your preach. So so what I

1028
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: was when I was younger, you know, I think I

1029
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: had to be Like in the third grade, I was

1030
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: over a friend of mine house after school, and uh,

1031
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: we were playing hide and go seek. There are a

1032
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: bunch of us, and so everybody went to go hide,

1033
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: and I was the one that was there waiting to

1034
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: go find everybody. So I count to ten and say, okay,

1035
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: all right, ready or not? Here I come and I

1036
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: run and um, I run into something. I'm not quite

1037
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: sure what it is, but I feel it I'm and

1038
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 1: I said, oh, it's okay. And I tried to keep

1039
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: going to find the people that were hide and my

1040
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 1: friends that were hiding. And I realized, oh man, I

1041
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: couldn't move. You know something, I really hit something. And

1042
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: so I looked down at my left knee and cut

1043
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 1: wide open. And I realized that I had run past

1044
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: the flower bed and there was a piece of wood

1045
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: sticking out and it literally sliced my knee wide open. Yeah,

1046
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: and I couldn't and I couldn't when I go when

1047
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: I went to move it literally blood just poured out

1048
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: of it. So I had to call for help. They came,

1049
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: they said, oh my goodness, They wrapped my knee up,

1050
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: They called my mother, They rested me to the hospital

1051
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: get emergency surgery, and I was in I was in

1052
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: the hospital for a number of days, and then it

1053
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: was in the past for a couple of weeks. The

1054
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: reason why I shared that, Sorry, I don't mean to

1055
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: be morbid, but I share that because when you talk about,

1056
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: you know, being alone or not staring at the walls,

1057
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: I think you have to acknowledge the level of of

1058
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: of of pain and trauma and hurt that you have

1059
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: that you're coming through. So the expectation of just getting

1060
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: back into life and getting things going. It's like you're

1061
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: hurt and it's okay, Like it's so like. I think

1062
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: part of it is maybe like you know, saying to

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Speaker 1: yourself in those moments, it's okay, m um, right where

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Speaker 1: I need to be, It's all right, you know, without

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Speaker 1: any sort of pressure or feeling like, oh man, I

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Speaker 1: need to be doing this or I don't want to

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Speaker 1: do that. It's like you're resetting your entire life and

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Speaker 1: that's just gonna take some time. And sometimes those quiet

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Speaker 1: moments are the most powerful moments because you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: revelation and downloads on what to do and how to

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Speaker 1: do and and maybe even things that okay to here

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Speaker 1: some tweaks that you want to make. So I would

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Speaker 1: just encourage you to embrace the discocomfort. Embrace it. There

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Speaker 1: may be times you in your place by yourself, the

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Speaker 1: kids are going you scream, scream, Embrace it. Embrace it

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Speaker 1: because when you think about what's happening, and you know,

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Speaker 1: and again from what you're sharing, is like there's like

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Speaker 1: a it's like a rebirth. You know, it's a rebirth.

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Speaker 1: There's a rebuilding. And in order for anything to be reborn,

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Speaker 1: whatever it was has to die. When you think about

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Speaker 1: the caterpillar, it goes into that cocoon. That cocoon looks

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Speaker 1: like death, but it's actually the vehicle for life because

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Speaker 1: it's changing. That cocoon is changing. It's not dying. You

1084
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Speaker 1: can feel like it. It's tight, it's dark, it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's damp, you know, but it's being transformed.

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Speaker 1: So that's when you think about, you know, that isolation.

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Speaker 1: It's like, yo, you are being transformed. The world has

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Speaker 1: not even yet seen the light and the love, and

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Speaker 1: the and and the power with which you will come

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Speaker 1: forth out of all of this. So that's not an

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Speaker 1: easy answer to your question. Um, but I would just

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Speaker 1: resist the temptation to push through those uncomfortable moments because

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Speaker 1: they're really going to be some of the most valuable

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Speaker 1: moments I think in this journey that you're on, Von,

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Speaker 1: You're just speaking to my soul right now. I just

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Speaker 1: I love you. Where can our listeners find everything that

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Speaker 1: you do, especially the cute little book that you and

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Speaker 1: your wife were out, because that's the picture for a

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Speaker 1: big book. Oh man, we'll get the new book. They

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Speaker 1: get that, but we'll get a living, get a living free,

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Speaker 1: you know. Um. Yeah, you find me on my website

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Speaker 1: Davon Franklin dot com. I'm on Instagram at Davon Franklin,

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Speaker 1: same with Twitter and Facebook. Well, Devon, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for coming on. I appreciate it more than you know.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I just I really appreciate it and I'm

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Speaker 1: excited to read live. I can't wait for you to

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Speaker 1: read it order now you neednything? Thank you let me know. Okay, awesome,

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Speaker 1: thanks to Von. Appreciated. I mean, come on, I love

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Speaker 1: him love I just want like a you know what

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Speaker 1: I want. I wanted daily affirmations from Devon. That's what

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Speaker 1: I need him to do, daily Devon affirmations. Can I

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Speaker 1: tell you what I was thinking about a lot of

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Speaker 1: the time he was talking the day I don't know

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Speaker 1: how many days after, And I told you that I

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Speaker 1: was excited. Remember what I told you. I was excited

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Speaker 1: and you looked at me and You're like excited, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, yes, I'm excited for you. It's that,

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Speaker 1: it's everything that he said, like a change is coming,

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Speaker 1: and it's and you know it's going to come at

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Speaker 1: some point. You're just in the middle of it. But

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I'm about to be a damn butterfly

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Speaker 1: mark the world. I'm about to find my little butterfly

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Speaker 1: arms out. I'm with Catherine. I think it's it's exciting.

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Speaker 1: It really is, because this next chapter was inevitable and

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Speaker 1: now it can finally begin. Amen what he said, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to fly. I'm shedding right now, shedding. And

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Speaker 1: then I'm gonna spread my wings and then everybody is

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Speaker 1: gonna just you know, uh yeah, well it'll be a

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Speaker 1: good how do I say it? Um? Oh, thank everyone

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Speaker 1: while I'm like flying up in this guy. Thanks, I

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Speaker 1: love you. You were right. I'm sorry to do a

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Speaker 1: twitter oh man. Well, great show guys, and um see

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Speaker 1: you next week