WEBVTT - Top 5 Films of 2026 (So Far) | #1073

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<v Speaker 2>What kind of a show you guys putting on here today?

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<v Speaker 3>You're not interested in art? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>No, Look, we're going to do this thing.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to have a conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>From Chicago. This is film Spotting.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Josh Larson and I'm Adam Kempinar.

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<v Speaker 4>Please state to.

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<v Speaker 5>Your name, roll mean Grace.

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<v Speaker 3>Please spoke up from a coma.

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<v Speaker 5>There's several light years from my apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not an astronaut.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not an astronaut.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not an astronaut.

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<v Speaker 5>If you don't go, you die with the rest of us.

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<v Speaker 1>The best movies of the year so far have come

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<v Speaker 1>in all shapes and sizes, from into family dramas to

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<v Speaker 1>epic sci fi and everything including alien, zombies and talking

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<v Speaker 1>cheap in between.

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<v Speaker 2>Our shepherd was murdered, and we shall solve the crime.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll share our favorites of the movie year with our

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<v Speaker 2>top five films of twenty twenty six so far. That

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<v Speaker 2>and more ahead on film Spotting. Welcome to film Spotting.

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<v Speaker 2>Did we wait to do our top five films of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six so far? So we could include Christopher

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<v Speaker 2>Nolans The Odyssey. Well, it turns out one of us

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<v Speaker 2>was able to go see it before we sat down

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<v Speaker 2>to tape this show as we are doing right this moment.

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<v Speaker 2>That was you, Josh, and we talked about what our

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<v Speaker 2>policy was going to be, whether or not it would

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<v Speaker 2>be eligible. Now, of course, at the time we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about it, we didn't know whether or not you wanted

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<v Speaker 2>it to be eligible. Where did we come out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to say this as neutrallly as possible because

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<v Speaker 1>I want to hold the suspense until our actual review, Adam,

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<v Speaker 1>which will be next week. I'm setting it aside out

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<v Speaker 1>of this list, not considering it not eligible, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is not eligible, So got it. Let's just put it

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<v Speaker 1>that way. I one of my own odyssey to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in the nineties, you know here as it

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<v Speaker 1>is everywhere in Chicago. I braved riding my bike along

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<v Speaker 1>the wild waves of Lake Michigan made it a good

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<v Speaker 1>that it was like two and a half miles to

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<v Speaker 1>see it at the theater, and cannot wait, of course

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about it. But we'll say no more, not

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<v Speaker 1>even giving a hint, not even going to suggest whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not it would be on this list. To me,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't exist for the purposes of this show.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you got it. It could be his number one

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<v Speaker 2>film of the year, it could be his number five,

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<v Speaker 2>or it could be his least favorite movie of the year. Exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>We won't know until next week when you hear our

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<v Speaker 2>conversation about Christopher Nolans The Odyssey. Later on this show,

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<v Speaker 2>we will play Masacre Theater and we will have poll results.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll hear what you think the best film of the

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<v Speaker 2>year so far. Is a reminder, Film Spotting is now

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<v Speaker 2>available as a video podcast. You can watch us talk

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<v Speaker 2>over at YouTube dot com slash film Spotting. We are

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<v Speaker 2>at or a little past Josh the halfway point of

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<v Speaker 2>the year. But this is roughly when we usually take

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<v Speaker 2>stock of the movie year so far and we share

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<v Speaker 2>our top five movies of the year so far. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>jump in. I don't know if it was as difficult

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<v Speaker 2>a process. It never is for me anyway as difficult

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<v Speaker 2>a process as when we actually have to think about

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<v Speaker 2>the top ten, which is something that has a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more meaning, and we do, really we just we work

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<v Speaker 2>so hard on that list. We worry about seeing enough films,

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<v Speaker 2>and certainly we're going to have blind spots. You already

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<v Speaker 2>heard I didn't see The Odyssey. There's one other film

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<v Speaker 2>that was a major one for me that I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>so badly to fit in before forming this list, and

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't able to. And I'm only going to omit

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<v Speaker 2>mentioning it here because I think it has a chance

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<v Speaker 2>of making your list. If it didn't, then I'll save

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<v Speaker 2>it for honorable mentions. I'll include that regret there. So

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<v Speaker 2>how do you want to get us started?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely less pressure this time of year. Definitely still

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<v Speaker 1>blind spots. But I will say it made me realize

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<v Speaker 1>what I felt, you know, under the surface, is that

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<v Speaker 1>this has been a great movie year so far. When

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<v Speaker 1>I sat down and looked, I have a top ten

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<v Speaker 1>that I would feel quite good about basically if we

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<v Speaker 1>had to do it right now, and knowing that there

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<v Speaker 1>are films I need to catch up with and so

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<v Speaker 1>many good ones ahead. I think this is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a banner you for movies by the time we

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<v Speaker 1>get to the end of it. So very excited to

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<v Speaker 1>look at my top five so far. It's also a

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<v Speaker 1>chance for me to play catch up a bit. It

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<v Speaker 1>turns out two of the movies on my list I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't able to review on the show, Adam, because I

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<v Speaker 1>was traveling in both cases. So I think in both

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<v Speaker 1>cases Vultures Roxannahatti was kind enough to sit in and

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<v Speaker 1>do that review with you. We'll see some I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I know quite exactly where you landed because I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't had a chance to go back and listen to

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<v Speaker 1>those reviews. Yeah, I'm looking at my list now, so

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you can tell me what you thought with my

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<v Speaker 1>number five. Here I know where you Goell me what

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<v Speaker 1>you thought of I Love Boosters because love love am

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<v Speaker 1>I strong do I love I Love Boosters. It's number

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<v Speaker 1>five on my list, But that means, you know, at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the year it could still be in

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<v Speaker 1>the top ten. It could have been bumped bumped off,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know. I had a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>journey with this one, Adam, because perhaps naively I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that Boots Riley's follow up to Sorry to Bother You,

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<v Speaker 1>which did make my Top ten list the year, came out.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, you know, I'm sure his follow up is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a bit more focused, a bit more disciplined,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because I don't think you described Sorry to

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<v Speaker 1>Bother You that way. Well, that's not how I would

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<v Speaker 1>describe I love blisters either. I mean, in comparison, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the story here is looser. I think the satire

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<v Speaker 1>is more sporadic, and the ending this was interesting to me,

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<v Speaker 1>especially for the year we're living in. The ending I

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<v Speaker 1>found unconvincingly optimistic.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say, Okay, yes, yet I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet I was recognizing, okay, I was recognizing all that

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<v Speaker 1>during the movie, and then I was having this parallel

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<v Speaker 1>awareness that I would never find another movie like this

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<v Speaker 1>from another filmmaker. The voice, the energy, the visual inventiveness,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just thought, what do I care if it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the most disciplined thing. We need to treasure an

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<v Speaker 1>idiosyncratic vision like this when we get it on the

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<v Speaker 1>big screen. Plan together we empty out every single metro

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<v Speaker 1>designer in the Bay Area.

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<v Speaker 5>Without to take what's allid We should coordinate?

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<v Speaker 3>What don't we waiting for taking everything.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not even that yellow.

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<v Speaker 3>In air anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's where I landed. I thinking right now that

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<v Speaker 1>I Love Boosters might be the messiest great movie of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six, and I'm probably okay with that. For

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<v Speaker 1>those who need a reminder, it has been out for

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<v Speaker 1>a while now. This stars Kiki Palmer as the leader

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<v Speaker 1>of a crew of bandits who are lifting high fashion

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<v Speaker 1>and then resell it via underground markets, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>appropriate to that subject matter. The color popping costume and

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<v Speaker 1>production design was incredible. I think every performance hits its mark.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course Palmer, she's dynamite whenever she's on screen. Taylor Page,

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<v Speaker 1>who I loved in Zola, is so funny. Naomi Aki's

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<v Speaker 1>been doing great recent work. Mickey seventeen is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the films she's been in. Really liked Isaa Gonzalez, who

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I've seen maybe since Baby Driver and

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<v Speaker 1>Poppy Lou shows up to me. Moore really surprised me

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<v Speaker 1>with the vicious comic chops she shows as this vindictive

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<v Speaker 1>fashion mogul. So oh oh, Lakeith Stanfield, I don't think anyone,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think anyone knows how to use Lakeith Stanfield's

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<v Speaker 1>particular energy as well as Boots Riley. I think of

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<v Speaker 1>it as like this mixture of sorrow and serenity, but

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<v Speaker 1>also I find it quite hilarious. He's got a small

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<v Speaker 1>part in this, so yeah, crucial, but I enjoyed him. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was basically able to cutch this just before it

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<v Speaker 1>left theaters. If you need to catch up with it,

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<v Speaker 1>it is now available to rent via various services. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's at that higher twenty dollars price point right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully that will drop soon. I'm guessing I'm sensing you

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<v Speaker 1>might have not had quite the same experience with this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Adam, No too messy for me, and the ending I

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<v Speaker 2>get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I get the ending was.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely too unconvincingly optimistic, and that's something I did talk

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<v Speaker 2>about during the review. The conversation I had with Roxanna,

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<v Speaker 2>she was more definitely way more on your side of

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<v Speaker 2>the ledger. In fact, she I think was more enthusiastic

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<v Speaker 2>than you, Josh I Wow, okay, maybe say, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know all the films she's seen this year,

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<v Speaker 2>but I wouldn't be surprised if it was higher on

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<v Speaker 2>her list of the best films of the year based

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<v Speaker 2>on how she talks about it, because I didn't hear

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<v Speaker 2>as many reservations in her review. Yes, idiosyncratic voice. I

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<v Speaker 2>really enjoyed that, and I enjoyed many things about the movie,

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<v Speaker 2>including some of those performances that you singled out. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>still not entirely sure what Lakeith Stanfield is doing in

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<v Speaker 2>that movie, and.

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<v Speaker 1>It felt like being Lakeith Stanfield.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it felt like it felt like Boots Riley just

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<v Speaker 2>needed to put him in there. And and sometimes that

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<v Speaker 2>may be okay because I like watching him so much

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<v Speaker 2>on screen, But that last thirty minutes or so is

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<v Speaker 2>where everything just goes off the rails too far for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that. I'm glad that you were able to

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<v Speaker 2>to find enough in it to redeem the review. So

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<v Speaker 2>I love Boosters your number five. I've got a film

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<v Speaker 2>at number five that you probably won't have on your list.

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<v Speaker 2>It is the the big box office surprise of twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six. A horror movie. Is this you're going with?

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<v Speaker 2>OBSESSI horror movie. It can't be the first horror movie

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<v Speaker 2>to ever make a top ten for me, but maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I should go back and look. Obsession is my number

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<v Speaker 2>five movie, Yeah, of the year. And it's because I realized,

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<v Speaker 2>especially as I looked back over my notes, I have

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<v Speaker 2>as many notes about that movie, positive reflections, responses, but

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<v Speaker 2>also just ideas, more than any movie, as many or

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<v Speaker 2>more in response to that as I did any movie

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<v Speaker 2>we've discussed this year, so good song, and they're about performance,

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<v Speaker 2>and one performance in particular, but performance generally about lighting,

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<v Speaker 2>about composition, about editing, and a lot of this we

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<v Speaker 2>did get into during our long conversation about this film.

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<v Speaker 2>You can find it in the film spotting feed if

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't hear our review of Obsession. But also I

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned ideas. It's provocations, unlike for me back Rooms, which

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<v Speaker 2>gets a little too messy here I'll use that word again,

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<v Speaker 2>MESSI in its world building, the details, and a movie

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<v Speaker 2>like one we talked about in Bonus Content recently, a

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<v Speaker 2>movie like it follows that maybe needed a few more

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<v Speaker 2>details for me to really get engaged with. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>Obsession threaded the needle just as it needed to. The

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<v Speaker 2>other provocations, like the main character bear his ability to

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<v Speaker 2>deny what he fundamentally knows to be true, that this

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<v Speaker 2>isn't really her, this isn't really the girl that he

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<v Speaker 2>fell in love with and something seems to be off

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<v Speaker 2>how much his love for her is grounded in the

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<v Speaker 2>physical pleasure he derives from her as that physical object,

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<v Speaker 2>And how to want to make someone love you is

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<v Speaker 2>effectively to want to dehumanize them, to strip away from

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<v Speaker 2>them everything that makes them who they are as an individual.

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<v Speaker 2>All of those things we did discover us and were

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<v Speaker 2>things that I was thinking about for a good week

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<v Speaker 2>after I saw the movie Obsession. So you have craft,

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<v Speaker 2>but you also have those those themes that were provocative,

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<v Speaker 2>and I mentioned performance in one in particular. Apparently not official,

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<v Speaker 2>but it seems that the breakout star of that film,

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<v Speaker 2>and deservedly so, Indie never Ready, has met with Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Mann about being in Heat two. Like I needed any

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<v Speaker 2>more reason to be excited about Heat two, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>put her in everything. I want to see more of

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<v Speaker 2>Indie never Ready. So Obsessions my number five.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, no no what no no no, no, no, no, no, no. Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked Obsession and she's my favorite thing in the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, absolutely, We're going to do for our

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<v Speaker 1>film spotting family members a bonus show on our favorite

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<v Speaker 1>performances of the year. So safe to say we'll both

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<v Speaker 1>have more to say about Robba Blades on that episode.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I do like the film. I love seeing

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<v Speaker 1>horror on your list. So this We're off to a

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<v Speaker 1>great start here as far as I'm concerned. All Right,

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<v Speaker 1>My number four is the Invite, which I just talked

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<v Speaker 1>about on last week's show. I gave it a huge recommendation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's only grown in my estimation since then, partly because

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<v Speaker 1>I've only heard more good things about it from pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much everyone in my life who goes to the movies.

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<v Speaker 1>And these are you know, these aren't like cinephiles either.

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<v Speaker 1>These are just like civilians who catch a film every

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<v Speaker 1>once in a while, and they're coming out of this

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<v Speaker 1>thing just delighted. And every time they tell me that,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, yeah, was really fun. That was just incredibly fun.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have Olivia Wild and Seth Rogan here as

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<v Speaker 1>this troubled married couple. They invite their upstairs neighbors for

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<v Speaker 1>a visit that goes goes sideways, goes upside down, and

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<v Speaker 1>it goes all all over the place all sorts of directions.

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<v Speaker 1>Penelope Cruz and Edward Norton are that other couple. It

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<v Speaker 1>took you a while to come to the door, and

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<v Speaker 1>it sounded like you were arguing.

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<v Speaker 5>No. I just want to be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>We were We were at the door before we rang,

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<v Speaker 1>and we could hear you were fighting.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh we were talking.

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<v Speaker 2>We were we were fighting.

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<v Speaker 3>We were fighting a bit of a contentious environment. And

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<v Speaker 3>here's what I understand. If that's repellent to you, no

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<v Speaker 3>hard feelings, you know what I mean, completely understand.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we love a contentious environment. I never doubted

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<v Speaker 1>Olivia Wilde. I knew she had comic directing chops, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is on display here from behind the camera. I

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<v Speaker 1>did not know. I was probably like if you had

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<v Speaker 1>asked me how Olivia Wilde is on screen as an actor,

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<v Speaker 1>even in you know, BookSmart and Don't Worry Diarlinge her

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<v Speaker 1>other directorial efforts, I would have probably said, she's fine. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she's fine. I think she was in a

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<v Speaker 1>Tron remake at some point. I remember her in Man,

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<v Speaker 1>the way she just elevates this as one of the four.

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<v Speaker 1>Here her hilarious quick twitch expressions in response to all

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff going around her. Again that performances of the

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<v Speaker 1>year Bonus Show is coming up for film spotting family members,

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<v Speaker 1>I will say more about her as well on that show.

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<v Speaker 1>But for now, this is number four on my list,

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<v Speaker 1>easily the twenty twenty six movie I've been recommending the

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<v Speaker 1>most of people. Just incredibly funny, knowing a great time

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<v Speaker 1>of the theater, which is where you can still find it.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you've not made it there yet, get to

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<v Speaker 1>a theater, have you had a chance.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the one, Josh, that's the one, the one,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the one I needed to get to the one

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<v Speaker 2>theater near me that's playing it, and they're just I

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<v Speaker 2>may get to this when I get to my number

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<v Speaker 2>three pick into more detail about why I couldn't see it,

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<v Speaker 2>but there just weren't enough showtimes for me to make it.

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<v Speaker 2>Desperate to see it. Knowing how much you liked it,

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<v Speaker 2>how many critics were raving about it, you had to

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<v Speaker 2>think it had a decent shot of making my list,

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<v Speaker 2>And so the fact that it's a blind spot for

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<v Speaker 2>me at this point really is is crushing me. But

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<v Speaker 2>that was my biggest regret in terms of movies I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get to see. But I mean, it's fresh, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just forming it. It just came out like ten days ago.

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<v Speaker 2>So Adam were always praising the theatrical experience. We talk

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<v Speaker 2>about how a big comedy, something like The Invite, you

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<v Speaker 2>got to see in a theater with a crowd to

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<v Speaker 2>get those laughs. Horror movies, of course you want to see.

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<v Speaker 1>It with a crowd just for safety. But you know

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<v Speaker 1>the screams too, the screams. You got to share the screams.

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<v Speaker 1>You also want to be in a theater for the images,

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<v Speaker 1>the giant images, and Christopher Nolan is one of those

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<v Speaker 1>filmmakers who is going to deliver on that front. That's

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<v Speaker 2>Jason, if you wanted to let us know that our

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<v Speaker 2>son is dead on the front step, I told him

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<v Speaker 2>not to worry.

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<v Speaker 6>He will come back to life soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Here my number four, and I'm going to resort here

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<v Speaker 2>to a tactic we occasionally employ when we're forming lists

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<v Speaker 2>like this. I'm going to quote from one of our

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<v Speaker 2>great critics, someone we feature on our show, someone who

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<v Speaker 2>is part of the Film Spotting family of podcasts, Alison

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<v Speaker 2>wilmore Over at Vulture. And it's because it's so brilliant,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's also because, I mean, she says it better

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<v Speaker 2>than I could about this film, but also because we

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<v Speaker 2>talked about this movie so in depth, Josh, that I realized,

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<v Speaker 2>I just I can't repackage my thoughts about this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>And if it makes my top ten at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the year, I don't know. I'm I'd have to

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<v Speaker 2>watch it again and see if I can find some

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<v Speaker 2>new nugget, some new insight to pull from the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>At number four, I've got Sophie Ramvari's debut, Blue Heron,

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<v Speaker 2>this autobiographical film. So I'm going to read from the

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<v Speaker 2>first paragraph of Alison Wilmore's rave for Blue Heron. She says,

0:20:43.205 --> 0:20:46.445
<v Speaker 2>Blue Heron is an autobiographical film pulled directly out of

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<v Speaker 2>writer director Sophie Rombari's childhood, from the period when her parents,

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<v Speaker 2>both Hungarian immigrants, moved their family of six into a

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<v Speaker 2>new house on Vancouver Island. But what it really feels

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<v Speaker 2>like is a seance, a way of using cinema not

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<v Speaker 2>just to put the past on screen, but to commune

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<v Speaker 2>with it, to interrogate it for information that her younger

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<v Speaker 2>self was unable to grasp at the time. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>tender but devastating work that exists in the nether world

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<v Speaker 2>between documentary and fiction, where the innate artificiality of recreating

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<v Speaker 2>something that actually happened allows a filmmaker to get to

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<v Speaker 2>a greater truth. For asme L Mudir in The Mother

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<v Speaker 2>of All Lies, that meant using miniatures to coax out

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<v Speaker 2>details of her family's experiences during Morocco's brutal Years of

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<v Speaker 2>lead for Joshua Oppenheimer in the Act of Killing, having

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<v Speaker 2>two unabashed death Squad leaders re enact some of the

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<v Speaker 2>murders they committed under Suharto seems to force the men

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<v Speaker 2>to reconsider their participation in politically sanctioned mass slaughter. So,

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<v Speaker 2>using those two films as a touchstone for how artificiality

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<v Speaker 2>can lead to truth, Blue Heron in Allison's estimation doing

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<v Speaker 2>something similar. The movies I referenced during our review were

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<v Speaker 2>some of my favorites of recent vintage josh like Aftersun

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<v Speaker 2>and All of Us Strangers, and going back a little

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<v Speaker 2>further Iranian cinema like Kirostami's Close Up and Jafar Panahi's

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<v Speaker 2>The Mirror. And I said it then and I will

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<v Speaker 2>say it again because it is still something I think

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<v Speaker 2>about in relation to this film. If it could have

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<v Speaker 2>somehow hit the truth for me through that meta exploration

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<v Speaker 2>that those four films did, with the power that those

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<v Speaker 2>four films did, obviously it would be my number one

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<v Speaker 2>film of the year so far, and it would probably

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<v Speaker 2>be entrenched there all year. It doesn't quite get there

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<v Speaker 2>for me. The technique that romvari employs and how she

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<v Speaker 2>employs it the documentary style. I tried to I tried

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<v Speaker 2>to articulate as best I could why it didn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that is the impetus for me to rewatch it

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<v Speaker 2>before the end of the year, to try to get

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<v Speaker 2>even further at why I didn't fully connect with it

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<v Speaker 2>the way I do tend to connect with movies that

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<v Speaker 2>employed this type of technique. That's something I will have

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with. As I said, maybe a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>later in the year. That said, we did have such

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<v Speaker 2>a rich discussion about this film because of the things

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<v Speaker 2>Allison is describing so eloquently, the fact that it is

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<v Speaker 2>it does feel like a seance using cinema to commune

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<v Speaker 2>and interrogate the past and the technique, setting aside the

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<v Speaker 2>meta aspects, setting aside the fracture between past and present

0:23:44.525 --> 0:23:48.445
<v Speaker 2>that happens in this film. Just some of the performances,

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<v Speaker 2>some of the cinematography is so satisfying to watch, especially

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<v Speaker 2>for a debut filmmaker. There's a reason why it's a

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<v Speaker 2>Golden Brick nominee for us at this point and a

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<v Speaker 2>strong contender for the award.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, probably the front runner, I would say at

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<v Speaker 1>this point for Yeah, our award for a new Release

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<v Speaker 1>from an Emerging Filmmaker. I love Allison's comparison the analogy

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<v Speaker 1>there to a seance. I think that's perfect. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to jump up on my list because to continue the

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Heron conversation and further encourage people to check it

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<v Speaker 1>out while it's top of mind. I had it at

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<v Speaker 1>number two. And Yeah, it'll be interesting to hear some

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<v Speaker 1>of those again when you're talking about reservations on a

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<v Speaker 1>top five of the year so far list their nitpicks.

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<v Speaker 1>But I understand what you're saying. I would have thought

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<v Speaker 1>it might have been higher on your list, So there's

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<v Speaker 1>something there you're wrestling with. I agree the meta elements

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<v Speaker 1>are a plus, which is something I'm actually suspicious of.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the character being a filmmaker, and we learn

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<v Speaker 1>eventually trying to reconstruct a film. I never found that

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<v Speaker 1>to be navel gazing here in terms of that construct

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<v Speaker 1>or the formal execution of it, I found it to

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<v Speaker 1>be continually inventive. And Rumvari has this rare touch that

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<v Speaker 1>is both delicate in searing somehow, and that's in a

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<v Speaker 1>single image. I don't mean she's delicate in this sequence

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<v Speaker 1>and then searing in the next I mean in a

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<v Speaker 1>single shot, she captures both and can carry the thematic

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<v Speaker 1>and emotional weight I think of this time. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if this came up in our review, and I

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<v Speaker 1>should maybe save some of this because we have a

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<v Speaker 1>likely top ten lister for me too. Here the one

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<v Speaker 1>of the young girl standing over her brother at the

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<v Speaker 1>front porch and he's just laying on his back, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's awake, just laying and she's just looking down at him,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure him out, but not aggressively or intrusively.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's that sort of composition that captures again this

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<v Speaker 1>the girl and then the adult young woman's experience. So well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so Blue heron certainly encourage listeners to check it out

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<v Speaker 1>if they haven't. I checked earlier this week and it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like it is available for purchase at this point

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<v Speaker 1>via Prime and Apple TV.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we've heard three of your picks that we

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<v Speaker 2>jumped ahead a little bit. That means we are at

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<v Speaker 2>my number three and Mace. Surprise you a little bit, Josh,

0:26:22.765 --> 0:26:24.805
<v Speaker 2>how much I liked this movie because I liked it

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<v Speaker 2>more than you though, Because I liked it more than you,

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<v Speaker 2>You're probably not shocked too much that it's on my list.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually have Toy Story five, and I thought, on

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<v Speaker 2>my list, yeah, you were really, I really, I really

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<v Speaker 2>went for it. And I did mention this during the review.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you have a film that delivers at this

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<v Speaker 2>point two of the strongest moving moments of the year contenders,

0:26:51.525 --> 0:26:56.605
<v Speaker 2>one involving Jesse and one involving Bonnie, that that's going

0:26:56.645 --> 0:26:59.565
<v Speaker 2>to stick with you when you're forming a list like this.

0:27:00.285 --> 0:27:02.645
<v Speaker 2>And I had a lot of notes on this film too,

0:27:02.645 --> 0:27:05.845
<v Speaker 2>and I was trying to remember what we covered and

0:27:05.885 --> 0:27:08.165
<v Speaker 2>maybe what we didn't. And I know that this is

0:27:09.365 --> 0:27:13.685
<v Speaker 2>pedestrian ground. I don't think we got into this from

0:27:13.685 --> 0:27:17.405
<v Speaker 2>my notes, but as I said, it may be pedestrian,

0:27:17.445 --> 0:27:21.005
<v Speaker 2>but I still wanted to bring it up because everybody

0:27:21.325 --> 0:27:24.085
<v Speaker 2>talked about this aspect of the film. It is the

0:27:24.165 --> 0:27:27.525
<v Speaker 2>obvious point to talk about in terms of the technology,

0:27:27.565 --> 0:27:31.005
<v Speaker 2>and we got into it a bit, but I did

0:27:31.045 --> 0:27:34.565
<v Speaker 2>want to at least mention that when you're watching this

0:27:34.685 --> 0:27:37.645
<v Speaker 2>film in terms of how it connects with you, connects

0:27:37.685 --> 0:27:40.925
<v Speaker 2>with me as an adult, as a father, why it

0:27:41.005 --> 0:27:44.165
<v Speaker 2>did resonate with me the way it did. I've got

0:27:44.245 --> 0:27:48.845
<v Speaker 2>kids who are four and six. They're younger than Bonnie

0:27:49.125 --> 0:27:52.525
<v Speaker 2>then right, And you can judge me all you want.

0:27:53.125 --> 0:27:57.245
<v Speaker 2>At this point, they wake up almost every day, both

0:27:57.285 --> 0:28:00.645
<v Speaker 2>of them wake up almost every day, and the first

0:28:00.685 --> 0:28:04.605
<v Speaker 2>thing out of their mouths is not can I have breakfast?

0:28:04.885 --> 0:28:08.565
<v Speaker 2>It's can I have my iPad? And often they go

0:28:08.645 --> 0:28:13.085
<v Speaker 2>to bed asking for their iPads, And they ask for

0:28:13.125 --> 0:28:17.245
<v Speaker 2>their iPads five to seven at least times throughout the day. Now,

0:28:17.245 --> 0:28:18.925
<v Speaker 2>I suppose to the fact that they ask for their

0:28:18.925 --> 0:28:22.245
<v Speaker 2>iPads that often shows you that I'm not giving it

0:28:22.285 --> 0:28:25.765
<v Speaker 2>to them as often as they want it, and I'm

0:28:25.805 --> 0:28:28.805
<v Speaker 2>doing a decent job of limiting the amount of time

0:28:29.045 --> 0:28:32.405
<v Speaker 2>they are on them. But it does show you the

0:28:32.485 --> 0:28:38.645
<v Speaker 2>stranglehold these devices have. But it's not just on these kids.

0:28:39.325 --> 0:28:44.525
<v Speaker 2>It is on us as adults as well. And that's

0:28:44.565 --> 0:28:48.725
<v Speaker 2>why I do think that shot in the film is

0:28:48.765 --> 0:28:51.925
<v Speaker 2>such a good one, That shot of the whole neighborhood

0:28:52.205 --> 0:28:55.925
<v Speaker 2>and all those screens lit up yp and everybody from

0:28:56.045 --> 0:28:59.325
<v Speaker 2>kid to adult, they're on a device, and they're all

0:28:59.365 --> 0:29:03.685
<v Speaker 2>in separate rooms, they're all separated from each other, they're

0:29:03.725 --> 0:29:07.685
<v Speaker 2>all detached, they're all disconnected. There's a time when that

0:29:07.765 --> 0:29:14.045
<v Speaker 2>shot would have been families all sitting around a television together,

0:29:15.725 --> 0:29:17.165
<v Speaker 2>and that's not what we see anymore.

0:29:17.525 --> 0:29:20.565
<v Speaker 1>And it would have been used incriminatingly right.

0:29:24.645 --> 0:29:27.805
<v Speaker 2>Together, talking right exactly, something like that. You're right, but

0:29:27.845 --> 0:29:29.445
<v Speaker 2>it still would have been at least they were spending

0:29:29.485 --> 0:29:32.885
<v Speaker 2>time together. Sure, now we can look at it wistfully,

0:29:33.005 --> 0:29:36.405
<v Speaker 2>like longingly, like that better exactly, at least that was

0:29:36.445 --> 0:29:39.805
<v Speaker 2>better than this. Right. But but there are times where

0:29:39.845 --> 0:29:42.765
<v Speaker 2>we also and and if you're one of those parents

0:29:42.805 --> 0:29:45.885
<v Speaker 2>out there, don't be too hard on yourself. There are

0:29:45.885 --> 0:29:49.365
<v Speaker 2>times where you give in and you lose the battle.

0:29:49.525 --> 0:29:52.565
<v Speaker 2>We need breaks, we have things to get done. We

0:29:53.365 --> 0:29:57.285
<v Speaker 2>used to when I was babysat as a kid, they

0:29:57.325 --> 0:30:00.645
<v Speaker 2>would put on Sesame Street, right, and we could still

0:30:00.685 --> 0:30:03.725
<v Speaker 2>do that. Sometimes we can put on Sesame Street, or

0:30:03.765 --> 0:30:07.765
<v Speaker 2>now it's you know, pop Patrol. The TV shows have

0:30:07.925 --> 0:30:11.605
<v Speaker 2>changed for the most part, but but really it's iPads now.

0:30:11.845 --> 0:30:16.445
<v Speaker 2>And watching this film, it just it just reinforced how

0:30:16.685 --> 0:30:20.645
<v Speaker 2>it's not just kids' anxieties, it's ours as parents about

0:30:20.685 --> 0:30:24.885
<v Speaker 2>how we use devices, but also how worried we are

0:30:25.725 --> 0:30:29.845
<v Speaker 2>about the control they have over our children and the

0:30:29.845 --> 0:30:32.805
<v Speaker 2>potential damage that they're doing. And here's the other part, Josh,

0:30:32.885 --> 0:30:38.085
<v Speaker 2>why this movie is meaningful to me is and this

0:30:38.165 --> 0:30:39.965
<v Speaker 2>is I was going to say with my number three

0:30:39.965 --> 0:30:42.445
<v Speaker 2>pick why I didn't get to why I didn't get

0:30:42.445 --> 0:30:47.085
<v Speaker 2>to the invite. Partly was last week my wife was

0:30:47.205 --> 0:30:49.885
<v Speaker 2>gone the whole week, got to go on a trip

0:30:49.925 --> 0:30:54.405
<v Speaker 2>and was out and that was fantastic, but that meant

0:30:54.445 --> 0:30:56.165
<v Speaker 2>I was home, you know, I was home with the

0:30:56.245 --> 0:30:59.805
<v Speaker 2>kids myself. And you're not going to get anything done

0:30:59.805 --> 0:31:01.925
<v Speaker 2>sometimes if you don't say, hey, here's an hour where

0:31:01.925 --> 0:31:05.645
<v Speaker 2>you can get on the iPad. So that happened occasionally,

0:31:05.845 --> 0:31:09.405
<v Speaker 2>So there you go. I'll hop to that. I'm not

0:31:09.445 --> 0:31:11.525
<v Speaker 2>a perfect dad, Josh. I don't know if you know

0:31:11.605 --> 0:31:12.085
<v Speaker 2>that about me.

0:31:12.845 --> 0:31:15.805
<v Speaker 1>I have said w and I have both said many times.

0:31:15.805 --> 0:31:19.365
<v Speaker 1>So ours are twenty four and twenty now, and I

0:31:19.405 --> 0:31:23.525
<v Speaker 1>am never going to cast judgment on any parents who

0:31:23.565 --> 0:31:27.365
<v Speaker 1>have had to deal. We just missed the cusp. They

0:31:27.405 --> 0:31:33.245
<v Speaker 1>were just young enough where mobile devices were not as

0:31:33.765 --> 0:31:36.685
<v Speaker 1>available as they are now, so we were not forced

0:31:36.685 --> 0:31:39.645
<v Speaker 1>to make these decisions. And I hold no judgment and

0:31:39.765 --> 0:31:43.245
<v Speaker 1>know from and know from just like the technological options

0:31:43.245 --> 0:31:45.045
<v Speaker 1>that we had at the time and the decisions we

0:31:45.085 --> 0:31:48.365
<v Speaker 1>had to make that this is this is the challenge.

0:31:48.405 --> 0:31:53.645
<v Speaker 1>This is the capital the challenge for raising young kids now.

0:31:53.685 --> 0:31:55.885
<v Speaker 1>And I think I liked for the record, you know,

0:31:55.925 --> 0:31:57.925
<v Speaker 1>listeners who heard our review know this, I'd like Toy

0:31:57.965 --> 0:32:01.285
<v Speaker 1>Story five. I think it's to its credit that it

0:32:01.365 --> 0:32:04.925
<v Speaker 1>actually tackled this. We probably differ on, you know, what

0:32:05.045 --> 0:32:06.405
<v Speaker 1>it had to offer at the end of the day,

0:32:06.445 --> 0:32:09.565
<v Speaker 1>on it, but absolutely to its credit that they didn't

0:32:09.605 --> 0:32:13.045
<v Speaker 1>just dodge the issue, right, and we're like, this is here.

0:32:13.805 --> 0:32:18.005
<v Speaker 1>Our Pixars movies at their best are always for the parents,

0:32:18.845 --> 0:32:21.325
<v Speaker 1>and so if they're going to keep in that tradition, yeah,

0:32:21.485 --> 0:32:23.085
<v Speaker 1>this is what they had to address.

0:32:24.765 --> 0:32:27.245
<v Speaker 2>And here's the last part I will say, just on

0:32:27.285 --> 0:32:32.005
<v Speaker 2>a personal another personal note, my six year old I

0:32:32.565 --> 0:32:37.485
<v Speaker 2>saw a lot of connection between her and Bonnie. She's creative,

0:32:37.965 --> 0:32:41.765
<v Speaker 2>she's a little goofy, she's the kind of girl who

0:32:42.485 --> 0:32:45.725
<v Speaker 2>every time she is the girl who every time we're

0:32:45.765 --> 0:32:48.685
<v Speaker 2>at a playground, I am not kidding you, every time

0:32:49.445 --> 0:32:54.445
<v Speaker 2>another kid, boy or girl walks up to her, or

0:32:54.525 --> 0:32:56.965
<v Speaker 2>she walks up to them on the slide or near

0:32:57.045 --> 0:33:01.205
<v Speaker 2>the slide or the steps, she says hi, and you

0:33:01.245 --> 0:33:04.125
<v Speaker 2>know what she gets nine times out of ten, A

0:33:04.165 --> 0:33:07.965
<v Speaker 2>blank A blank look. Josh, they don't understand why this

0:33:08.165 --> 0:33:11.885
<v Speaker 2>little girl is talking to them, and they usually just

0:33:11.965 --> 0:33:16.525
<v Speaker 2>ignore her and then run off. And not only that,

0:33:17.405 --> 0:33:21.525
<v Speaker 2>she has a vision impairment, so as she it's older,

0:33:21.605 --> 0:33:24.285
<v Speaker 2>she's going to be the girl like Bonnie who gets

0:33:24.365 --> 0:33:28.085
<v Speaker 2>left out of things, who is going to struggle to connect.

0:33:28.405 --> 0:33:32.165
<v Speaker 2>And yes, I am saying that maybe my defenses were

0:33:32.205 --> 0:33:34.205
<v Speaker 2>down a little bit as a critic, but I don't

0:33:34.205 --> 0:33:36.245
<v Speaker 2>think that that has anything to do with my reaction

0:33:36.365 --> 0:33:39.165
<v Speaker 2>to the film. I don't. I'm not I'm truly not

0:33:39.325 --> 0:33:44.245
<v Speaker 2>suggesting that that that had any real impact on how

0:33:44.325 --> 0:33:45.405
<v Speaker 2>I viewed the movie.

0:33:45.445 --> 0:33:46.565
<v Speaker 1>It just significs that.

0:33:46.565 --> 0:33:49.165
<v Speaker 2>I did, I did relate to it on a very

0:33:49.205 --> 0:33:51.605
<v Speaker 2>personal level, in addition to the fact that I think

0:33:51.645 --> 0:33:52.925
<v Speaker 2>it's really smart filmmaking.

0:33:53.445 --> 0:33:56.645
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we don't have to draw those those sorts of distinctions.

0:33:57.405 --> 0:33:57.645
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:33:57.685 --> 0:34:00.045
<v Speaker 1>And and Toy Story five has has a scene like that,

0:34:00.165 --> 0:34:04.085
<v Speaker 1>right where a kid puts themselves out there and and

0:34:04.125 --> 0:34:09.085
<v Speaker 1>it flops. I can remember, I think witnessing that happening

0:34:09.205 --> 0:34:12.085
<v Speaker 1>once to one of my daughters at that age on

0:34:12.125 --> 0:34:15.444
<v Speaker 1>a playground, and you describing that, like, my heart just

0:34:15.445 --> 0:34:19.485
<v Speaker 1>crumpled inside for that memory, So so thank you. For that.

0:34:19.605 --> 0:34:20.964
<v Speaker 1>Thank you pick, sire, Thank you, Adam.

0:34:21.085 --> 0:34:21.405
<v Speaker 2>Welcome.

0:34:21.844 --> 0:34:24.564
<v Speaker 1>We all feel better now. I don't know what's going

0:34:24.565 --> 0:34:28.325
<v Speaker 1>on here, but so far you have horror on your list, yes,

0:34:28.605 --> 0:34:31.205
<v Speaker 1>and animation on your list. I think we may be

0:34:31.325 --> 0:34:34.165
<v Speaker 1>in bizarro world and I don't know where this is

0:34:34.165 --> 0:34:35.805
<v Speaker 1>going to go. Now you have a meta film at

0:34:35.845 --> 0:34:40.325
<v Speaker 1>number two. No, I'm gonna setting straight, filmmaker. I'm going

0:34:40.365 --> 0:34:44.325
<v Speaker 1>to set thing straight. And this is actually my number three,

0:34:44.685 --> 0:34:47.245
<v Speaker 1>so I'll jump back a little bit. Well, a horror pick,

0:34:47.445 --> 0:34:49.685
<v Speaker 1>we have to wait to go to wait to come

0:34:49.725 --> 0:34:52.805
<v Speaker 1>back to it. Yeah, we have business. Well that's a tease.

0:34:53.005 --> 0:34:54.005
<v Speaker 1>I have a four tease.

0:34:54.485 --> 0:34:56.925
<v Speaker 2>We got to take a moment before we get to

0:34:57.005 --> 0:34:59.405
<v Speaker 2>our top two. We do want to remind you that

0:34:59.485 --> 0:35:01.365
<v Speaker 2>you can go to filmspotting dot net. Just click on

0:35:01.485 --> 0:35:05.125
<v Speaker 2>lists and you will see our entire top five archive.

0:35:05.765 --> 0:35:09.965
<v Speaker 2>Let's take a minute, Josh to thank the film Spotting family.

0:35:11.485 --> 0:35:16.325
<v Speaker 2>It's the single largest source of support for the show. Yes,

0:35:16.445 --> 0:35:20.845
<v Speaker 2>we have advertising in the show, but it is the

0:35:21.085 --> 0:35:24.725
<v Speaker 2>single largest source of support for the show. It keeps

0:35:24.805 --> 0:35:27.965
<v Speaker 2>us doing what we've been doing for now over twenty

0:35:28.165 --> 0:35:30.845
<v Speaker 2>one years. And usually Josh, at this point, we shout

0:35:30.845 --> 0:35:34.325
<v Speaker 2>out a couple Film Spotting family members, but instead we

0:35:34.445 --> 0:35:38.725
<v Speaker 2>wanted to just spend a couple minutes, maybe even less,

0:35:39.405 --> 0:35:42.925
<v Speaker 2>on what we're calling Summer film Spotting Madness. It's the

0:35:42.925 --> 0:35:45.685
<v Speaker 2>best of the nineteen twenties and thirties. This is a

0:35:45.765 --> 0:35:48.285
<v Speaker 2>bracket style tournament, just like we do every year for

0:35:48.325 --> 0:35:51.685
<v Speaker 2>Film Spotting Madness, but we're doing it exclusively for the

0:35:51.805 --> 0:35:55.765
<v Speaker 2>family nineteen twenties and nineteen thirties, after finishing the nineteen

0:35:55.805 --> 0:36:00.005
<v Speaker 2>forties back in April or May, thirty two films Summer

0:36:00.045 --> 0:36:03.205
<v Speaker 2>Madness just for the Film Spotting family members. Have you

0:36:03.205 --> 0:36:05.444
<v Speaker 2>had a chance to look at the play ins which

0:36:05.485 --> 0:36:10.405
<v Speaker 2>we did just announce to Film Spotting family members this week,

0:36:10.485 --> 0:36:12.445
<v Speaker 2>and did any of them stand out to you? We

0:36:12.445 --> 0:36:15.205
<v Speaker 2>thought we would give the wider film Spotting audience just

0:36:15.245 --> 0:36:17.404
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a taste of what those play

0:36:17.405 --> 0:36:17.844
<v Speaker 2>ins were.

0:36:18.445 --> 0:36:21.445
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I'm going to do some lobbying here, because okay,

0:36:22.045 --> 0:36:25.165
<v Speaker 1>that's partly what madness is all about, right, It's it's

0:36:25.165 --> 0:36:27.845
<v Speaker 1>our personal votes, but it's also trying to swing the vote,

0:36:28.365 --> 0:36:32.765
<v Speaker 1>sway the vote. So I'm looking at let's see, I'm

0:36:32.805 --> 0:36:36.325
<v Speaker 1>gonna I'm gonna stick with the horror concept here and

0:36:36.805 --> 0:36:41.045
<v Speaker 1>gives some recommendations for votes in two of these matchups

0:36:41.085 --> 0:36:44.365
<v Speaker 1>because they are horror matchups. You have a count me

0:36:44.445 --> 0:36:48.765
<v Speaker 1>in despite the pun. Not so excited about that, but

0:36:50.205 --> 0:36:52.685
<v Speaker 1>the title of a poll, Josh, I know, but it's

0:36:52.805 --> 0:36:58.045
<v Speaker 1>it's so bad that I think the title okay, doesn't

0:36:58.085 --> 0:36:59.005
<v Speaker 1>even help it anyway.

0:36:59.085 --> 0:37:00.045
<v Speaker 2>You have no Saratu.

0:37:00.325 --> 0:37:06.645
<v Speaker 1>You and Sam have no Sparatu against uh Dracula. And

0:37:08.085 --> 0:37:12.165
<v Speaker 1>I will say that if you haven't seen these both,

0:37:12.285 --> 0:37:14.645
<v Speaker 1>and some people vote at them without having seen both.

0:37:14.685 --> 0:37:17.285
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can't imagine living in that sort of world,

0:37:17.325 --> 0:37:18.045
<v Speaker 1>but some people don't.

0:37:18.045 --> 0:37:19.645
<v Speaker 2>We're going to pretend that doesn't happen.

0:37:19.925 --> 0:37:24.605
<v Speaker 1>I could see some thinking, well, you know, Dracula be

0:37:24.685 --> 0:37:27.844
<v Speaker 1>able to go see obviously that must that's the one

0:37:27.885 --> 0:37:29.445
<v Speaker 1>I know, that's one I've heard about. That's the one

0:37:29.485 --> 0:37:33.325
<v Speaker 1>who you know, I should probably vote for that. Murnau's

0:37:33.765 --> 0:37:37.565
<v Speaker 1>no Sparratu is the vote you have to make. It is,

0:37:37.605 --> 0:37:41.005
<v Speaker 1>and I like Dracula Lugosi is maybe the best thing

0:37:41.045 --> 0:37:44.005
<v Speaker 1>about it. The production design is incredible. No Saratu is

0:37:44.165 --> 0:37:46.845
<v Speaker 1>just another level of horror, So you got to go

0:37:46.925 --> 0:37:49.845
<v Speaker 1>there in that matchup. And then I think here also,

0:37:50.085 --> 0:37:54.805
<v Speaker 1>conventional wisdom might be a skew bride of Frankenstein versus

0:37:55.285 --> 0:37:59.404
<v Speaker 1>the cabinet of doctor Caligari. Bride of Frankenstein. I would

0:37:59.445 --> 0:38:03.844
<v Speaker 1>agree better than Frankenstein. James Wal's follow up. I think

0:38:03.885 --> 0:38:09.045
<v Speaker 1>he did. Yeah, he did both. It's incredible, iconic. We

0:38:09.085 --> 0:38:13.325
<v Speaker 1>can all picture in our heads the imagery right now.

0:38:13.925 --> 0:38:17.285
<v Speaker 1>But and maybe folks have not gotten around to see

0:38:17.285 --> 0:38:23.005
<v Speaker 1>the cabinet of doctor Caligari. This is for me top

0:38:23.045 --> 0:38:27.685
<v Speaker 1>ten horror of all time. So no brain or here

0:38:27.725 --> 0:38:30.605
<v Speaker 1>for me, as much as I also do like Brida Frankenstein,

0:38:30.805 --> 0:38:35.045
<v Speaker 1>it's got to be the cabinet of doctor Caligari in

0:38:35.125 --> 0:38:38.205
<v Speaker 1>this matchup. And I'll make this one real quick, Adam.

0:38:39.405 --> 0:38:42.325
<v Speaker 1>If you look at another matchup we have here, let

0:38:42.325 --> 0:38:46.285
<v Speaker 1>me find it. It is the gold Rush against swing Time.

0:38:46.805 --> 0:38:50.125
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm, Fred Astaire Ginger Rogers swing Time.

0:38:50.685 --> 0:38:50.924
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:38:50.965 --> 0:38:52.805
<v Speaker 1>I can see it being very easy for people to

0:38:52.845 --> 0:38:56.005
<v Speaker 1>think gold Rush, chaplain. He's like one of the all

0:38:56.005 --> 0:38:58.965
<v Speaker 1>time geniuses. Of course I'm going to vote for that.

0:38:59.045 --> 0:39:01.405
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know which is Ster Rogers Swingtime? Is

0:39:02.125 --> 0:39:04.965
<v Speaker 1>I really I've seen no, no, no, I'm saying a

0:39:05.045 --> 0:39:07.925
<v Speaker 1>voter might think that okay, and I get that thinking

0:39:08.485 --> 0:39:10.645
<v Speaker 1>I've seen all of their movies and I even have

0:39:10.725 --> 0:39:14.085
<v Speaker 1>to pause or google on my website. You know what,

0:39:14.525 --> 0:39:17.165
<v Speaker 1>which one is this again? Swing Time is I think

0:39:17.165 --> 0:39:20.205
<v Speaker 1>their best. So we're not just We're not just throwing

0:39:20.325 --> 0:39:23.845
<v Speaker 1>in here, you know, a nod to a stair Rodgers

0:39:24.045 --> 0:39:29.125
<v Speaker 1>and sacrificing them to the god of Chaplain. In this matchup,

0:39:29.445 --> 0:39:31.725
<v Speaker 1>I would go with a Stare Rogers.

0:39:32.005 --> 0:39:35.205
<v Speaker 2>I think I think I would too. That's easy to

0:39:35.205 --> 0:39:38.725
<v Speaker 2>say when there's a lot of chaplain in this tournament already,

0:39:38.725 --> 0:39:41.805
<v Speaker 2>including one other Chaplain. Yeah, just among the play ins.

0:39:41.805 --> 0:39:44.725
<v Speaker 2>But I'm with you. I love swing Time that much.

0:39:44.725 --> 0:39:47.685
<v Speaker 2>I'll just mention a couple myself. I think a really

0:39:47.725 --> 0:39:52.205
<v Speaker 2>tough one is the Curtiz matchup, because I'm a fan

0:39:52.285 --> 0:39:56.045
<v Speaker 2>of both Angels with Dirty Faces and the Adventures of Robinhood.

0:39:56.725 --> 0:40:01.685
<v Speaker 2>Very different films and two very different but great movie stars.

0:40:01.765 --> 0:40:07.685
<v Speaker 2>Jimmy Cagney versus Errol Flynn. I don't know. I think

0:40:07.805 --> 0:40:10.325
<v Speaker 2>I'm more of a Cagney guy. I'm probably gonna go

0:40:10.565 --> 0:40:13.364
<v Speaker 2>Angels with Dirty Faces. I don't think it's gonna win,

0:40:13.965 --> 0:40:16.285
<v Speaker 2>but I haven't looked at the results so far because

0:40:16.325 --> 0:40:20.885
<v Speaker 2>we have started voting. Maybe maybe Flynn takes it an

0:40:21.165 --> 0:40:25.485
<v Speaker 2>go Cagny in that one. Another one, Josh, that I

0:40:25.525 --> 0:40:28.925
<v Speaker 2>think would be the toughest to call. I'm gonna look

0:40:28.965 --> 0:40:31.845
<v Speaker 2>and see where it is while we're talking, but I

0:40:32.045 --> 0:40:34.844
<v Speaker 2>feel like it just has to be close. It's not

0:40:35.085 --> 0:40:38.285
<v Speaker 2>close for me, even though I do think both films

0:40:38.285 --> 0:40:42.485
<v Speaker 2>are very good and both were part of a marathon,

0:40:43.045 --> 0:40:46.605
<v Speaker 2>the Ernst Lubich Marathon. We have a Lubitch play in

0:40:46.725 --> 0:40:51.165
<v Speaker 2>Nanatchka versus Trouble and Paradise. Part of me just thinks

0:40:51.165 --> 0:40:54.364
<v Speaker 2>that Trouble in Paradise is more highly regarded. I could

0:40:54.405 --> 0:40:59.325
<v Speaker 2>be wrong about that, but I love Nanatchka, and Nanacha

0:40:59.405 --> 0:41:01.605
<v Speaker 2>is getting my vote. I feel like it could be

0:41:01.765 --> 0:41:04.364
<v Speaker 2>very close, though, Josh, and I want to go hit

0:41:04.405 --> 0:41:07.924
<v Speaker 2>refresh on this and see where it stands. And at

0:41:07.925 --> 0:41:12.085
<v Speaker 2>this moment, here you go. At this moment, Trouble in

0:41:12.085 --> 0:41:17.605
<v Speaker 2>Paradise is up by one vote, So that one is

0:41:17.685 --> 0:41:21.565
<v Speaker 2>that one is tight. And here's here's the last one

0:41:21.725 --> 0:41:25.045
<v Speaker 2>I'll single out. I have a play in called Upward Mobility,

0:41:25.845 --> 0:41:31.005
<v Speaker 2>and Sam and I put Jezebel against my Man Godfrey.

0:41:32.005 --> 0:41:34.405
<v Speaker 2>I have to think that my Man Godfrey is going

0:41:34.485 --> 0:41:40.485
<v Speaker 2>to run away with this. But Betty Davis in Jezebel, Oh.

0:41:40.485 --> 0:41:41.845
<v Speaker 1>Good, that's my pick.

0:41:42.125 --> 0:41:46.405
<v Speaker 2>I'm going I'm heretical on this one. I'm taking Jezebel

0:41:46.965 --> 0:41:50.404
<v Speaker 2>versus my Man Godfrey. So that's just the play ins.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to participate in this tournament, Round one

0:41:54.765 --> 0:41:57.885
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0:42:01.365 --> 0:42:05.925
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<v Speaker 2>All right, So before we got married, we did this thing,

0:43:14.045 --> 0:43:16.285
<v Speaker 2>or we said the worst thing we've ever done. I'll

0:43:16.285 --> 0:43:19.485
<v Speaker 2>tell mine if we all do it, Promise what dear?

0:43:19.845 --> 0:43:23.565
<v Speaker 2>This doll, beer bottles and porn.

0:43:23.445 --> 0:43:25.765
<v Speaker 1>Left an RB an eye? Yeah, what's the worst thing

0:43:25.805 --> 0:43:26.404
<v Speaker 1>I've ever done?

0:43:28.325 --> 0:43:28.965
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I.

0:43:31.085 --> 0:43:31.925
<v Speaker 4>Are you serious?

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<v Speaker 2>Our top two picks for best films of the year

0:43:36.325 --> 0:43:39.085
<v Speaker 2>so far coming up in a moment. First, we do

0:43:39.325 --> 0:43:41.924
<v Speaker 2>want to see how you weighed in on the best

0:43:41.965 --> 0:43:45.325
<v Speaker 2>of the Year so Far poll. The options we gave

0:43:45.645 --> 0:43:49.605
<v Speaker 2>listeners were these Josh twenty eight years Later, the Bone Temple,

0:43:49.965 --> 0:43:56.285
<v Speaker 2>back Rooms Disclosure Day, the Drama Obsession Project, Hail Mary,

0:43:57.125 --> 0:44:01.285
<v Speaker 2>the Sheep Detectives, or you could go other. We had

0:44:01.605 --> 0:44:06.404
<v Speaker 2>mild drama behind the scenes here, as I suggested, there's

0:44:06.445 --> 0:44:09.605
<v Speaker 2>no reason why the drama needed to be in this poll.

0:44:10.245 --> 0:44:13.444
<v Speaker 2>Nobody thinks that highly of it. Nobody's going to vote

0:44:13.485 --> 0:44:17.765
<v Speaker 2>for it. And well, Sam was very mildly because he's

0:44:17.805 --> 0:44:21.364
<v Speaker 2>too much of a gentleman, very mildly gloating in our

0:44:21.445 --> 0:44:26.484
<v Speaker 2>slack earlier today. And you're going to tell people why.

0:44:26.085 --> 0:44:30.765
<v Speaker 1>It's in third place, and among the films offered, the

0:44:30.805 --> 0:44:34.165
<v Speaker 1>titles offered, it's actually in second place. So we have other.

0:44:34.605 --> 0:44:36.565
<v Speaker 1>The category of other got twenty percent of the vote

0:44:36.565 --> 0:44:40.725
<v Speaker 1>that put it in second place, but the drama received

0:44:40.965 --> 0:44:44.405
<v Speaker 1>sixteen percent of the vote. And yeah, I think you know,

0:44:44.925 --> 0:44:49.285
<v Speaker 1>I'm not always I don't get into these poll kerfuffles often, Adam,

0:44:49.285 --> 0:44:53.565
<v Speaker 1>because they tend to spiral on slack. But I did

0:44:53.645 --> 0:44:58.565
<v Speaker 1>kind of lean Sam's way only because I've heard, you know,

0:44:59.485 --> 0:45:01.885
<v Speaker 1>my daughters and her friends still talking about the drama

0:45:01.965 --> 0:45:07.045
<v Speaker 1>positively months after it's been out, and so it has

0:45:07.165 --> 0:45:12.605
<v Speaker 1>resonated with an audience, resonated with you me, eh, a

0:45:12.605 --> 0:45:16.045
<v Speaker 1>little bit, but you know, enough people to get it

0:45:16.285 --> 0:45:19.205
<v Speaker 1>a placement on the pole pretty high here. But let's

0:45:19.205 --> 0:45:19.565
<v Speaker 1>go back.

0:45:19.685 --> 0:45:22.805
<v Speaker 2>Remember I gave it just stay very mild thumbs up.

0:45:23.405 --> 0:45:27.485
<v Speaker 1>Mild thumbs up. Yeah, yes, okay, all right, to quote

0:45:27.685 --> 0:45:31.365
<v Speaker 1>Roger and Gene mild. That's on the record. Okay, yes,

0:45:31.405 --> 0:45:34.645
<v Speaker 1>it is now backrooms. You were suspicious of putting on

0:45:34.685 --> 0:45:37.485
<v Speaker 1>this pole, and I think I said, yeah, I don't

0:45:37.485 --> 0:45:40.005
<v Speaker 1>think we need backrooms either. It ended up on the poll,

0:45:40.045 --> 0:45:43.045
<v Speaker 1>and it's ended up in last place, So your instinct

0:45:43.085 --> 0:45:44.765
<v Speaker 1>was correct on that three percent of the vote.

0:45:44.845 --> 0:45:46.365
<v Speaker 2>Take that, Sam, second.

0:45:46.645 --> 0:45:50.045
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Second to last place in the poll is the

0:45:50.085 --> 0:45:53.364
<v Speaker 1>Sheep Detectives with yeah, five percent of the vote. I mean,

0:45:53.925 --> 0:45:56.844
<v Speaker 1>I thought this changed people's lives. Come on, what's happening here?

0:45:56.965 --> 0:46:01.205
<v Speaker 1>This seems disrespectful. Hearts, this is disrespectful to me. Disclosure

0:46:01.285 --> 0:46:06.365
<v Speaker 1>day only seven percent of the vote. Okay, I'll move on.

0:46:07.165 --> 0:46:10.605
<v Speaker 1>Twenty eight years later, the Bone Temple received eleven percent

0:46:10.605 --> 0:46:12.805
<v Speaker 1>of the vote, Adam. One of the picks you've made

0:46:12.805 --> 0:46:14.884
<v Speaker 1>already on your top five of the Year so far list,

0:46:14.925 --> 0:46:19.485
<v Speaker 1>Obsession got thirteen percent of the vote. That leaves the

0:46:19.525 --> 0:46:22.885
<v Speaker 1>winner after all of that, with twenty six percent of

0:46:22.925 --> 0:46:25.365
<v Speaker 1>the vote. Has not come up on either of our lists.

0:46:25.725 --> 0:46:28.765
<v Speaker 1>We'll see if it will. But for our listeners, the

0:46:28.805 --> 0:46:31.765
<v Speaker 1>best film in the year so far is Project Hail Mary.

0:46:32.405 --> 0:46:35.005
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. One of the listeners who picked it was Craig Schaeffer.

0:46:35.285 --> 0:46:37.285
<v Speaker 2>As much as I'd like to support something in d

0:46:37.445 --> 0:46:41.045
<v Speaker 2>slash low budget, and I really thought our listeners might

0:46:41.165 --> 0:46:43.965
<v Speaker 2>end up more there, Josh. He says, I'll have to

0:46:43.965 --> 0:46:46.605
<v Speaker 2>go with Project Hail Mary, Lord and Miller never fail

0:46:46.685 --> 0:46:48.725
<v Speaker 2>to amaze me, and no other film has created a

0:46:48.765 --> 0:46:51.605
<v Speaker 2>sense of wonder on me like this one has.

0:46:52.885 --> 0:46:56.365
<v Speaker 1>Here's Bryce Maloney, the gauntlet has been thrown down, and

0:46:56.645 --> 0:47:00.005
<v Speaker 1>Obsession and back Rooms maybe the modern day equivalents of

0:47:00.125 --> 0:47:04.685
<v Speaker 1>Bonnie and Clyde and the Graduate Wow sea change a

0:47:04.765 --> 0:47:08.844
<v Speaker 1>sea change in film history. Here for Bryce, he says,

0:47:08.965 --> 0:47:13.405
<v Speaker 1>Obsession is my pick. It's esthetics and visual storytelling scream today,

0:47:13.605 --> 0:47:16.565
<v Speaker 1>whereas mostly everything else on that list suddenly feels yesterday.

0:47:16.725 --> 0:47:19.844
<v Speaker 1>It's a shot across the bow for Hollywood, and they'd

0:47:19.845 --> 0:47:23.404
<v Speaker 1>best learned the proper lesson from what viewers have told them.

0:47:23.445 --> 0:47:28.765
<v Speaker 1>With their record breaking attendance that certainly has sent waves

0:47:28.805 --> 0:47:32.045
<v Speaker 1>through Hollywood. Bryce, and Yeah, Sam dropped a note here

0:47:32.085 --> 0:47:35.005
<v Speaker 1>that both of these films Obsession and back Rooms right

0:47:35.005 --> 0:47:37.485
<v Speaker 1>now you can see via premium vod.

0:47:38.125 --> 0:47:40.765
<v Speaker 2>Damian Cannon writes nothing else has come close to the

0:47:40.805 --> 0:47:44.245
<v Speaker 2>Bone Temple in terms of raw impact. The masterful and

0:47:44.405 --> 0:47:48.005
<v Speaker 2>unhinged performance by Fines That's Raethe is simply one of

0:47:48.045 --> 0:47:50.765
<v Speaker 2>the best I've seen in a long time.

0:47:51.245 --> 0:47:53.205
<v Speaker 1>That title may may come up in a bit here.

0:47:53.645 --> 0:47:55.525
<v Speaker 1>We heard from Nick Potter as well. I thought I

0:47:55.605 --> 0:47:58.325
<v Speaker 1>might struggle with this poll until I realized that Nirvana,

0:47:58.325 --> 0:48:00.725
<v Speaker 1>the Band, the Show, the movie was simply not listed.

0:48:01.245 --> 0:48:03.045
<v Speaker 1>Not sure I can think of a twenty twenty six

0:48:03.125 --> 0:48:06.525
<v Speaker 1>film that has bigger ambitions while also nailing everything it

0:48:06.565 --> 0:48:09.805
<v Speaker 1>sets out to do. Matt Johnson and Jay McCarroll deliver

0:48:09.885 --> 0:48:12.725
<v Speaker 1>ebsurdist laughs and genuine pathos in a movie that truly

0:48:12.725 --> 0:48:15.725
<v Speaker 1>feels like a magic trick and deserves all the attention

0:48:16.045 --> 0:48:16.725
<v Speaker 1>it can get.

0:48:17.845 --> 0:48:22.445
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Devin jolly Jack boot Womb says, I don't have

0:48:22.445 --> 0:48:24.605
<v Speaker 2>a runaway favorite at this point, so instead I voted

0:48:24.645 --> 0:48:27.485
<v Speaker 2>other just to throw send help into the mix. I

0:48:27.485 --> 0:48:30.405
<v Speaker 2>don't think it's necessarily better than my other favorites, but

0:48:30.445 --> 0:48:32.685
<v Speaker 2>since it didn't make Sam's cut, I guess it needs

0:48:32.685 --> 0:48:36.165
<v Speaker 2>a boost. Rachel McAdams is predictably delightful, and I had

0:48:36.165 --> 0:48:39.365
<v Speaker 2>a real blast with Ramy doing Ramie stuff. Even wields

0:48:39.445 --> 0:48:41.925
<v Speaker 2>kind of bad CGI like he once did kind of

0:48:41.965 --> 0:48:44.685
<v Speaker 2>bad stop motion, and it totally worked for me. One

0:48:44.685 --> 0:48:47.005
<v Speaker 2>of the most fun trips to the multiplex. I've had

0:48:47.205 --> 0:48:50.165
<v Speaker 2>this year, sent out one I need to catch up with.

0:48:50.525 --> 0:48:53.245
<v Speaker 2>Still that's on Hulu, and it's available vod.

0:48:53.965 --> 0:48:56.925
<v Speaker 1>Here's Bob McHugh my favorite so far as the invite.

0:48:56.965 --> 0:48:59.285
<v Speaker 1>If you told me this twenty minutes into the movie,

0:48:59.365 --> 0:49:01.005
<v Speaker 1>I would have been shocked because I was on the

0:49:01.085 --> 0:49:04.165
<v Speaker 1>verge of walking out. Wow, don't we have enough movies

0:49:04.205 --> 0:49:07.965
<v Speaker 1>about miserable caricatures fighting. That's when the invite reveals. It's

0:49:08.045 --> 0:49:11.125
<v Speaker 1>neat trick. They don't get any less miserable, but they

0:49:11.125 --> 0:49:14.005
<v Speaker 1>do cease to become characters. By the end, I had

0:49:14.045 --> 0:49:16.445
<v Speaker 1>achieved full empathy for them, So I have to give

0:49:16.485 --> 0:49:19.205
<v Speaker 1>it credit for being the first film to alter my

0:49:19.325 --> 0:49:23.485
<v Speaker 1>behavior since Final Destination two made me avoid driving behind

0:49:23.565 --> 0:49:24.405
<v Speaker 1>lumber trucks.

0:49:24.805 --> 0:49:28.845
<v Speaker 2>Okay, altering behavior Josh, th Wow, that doesn't happen often

0:49:29.085 --> 0:49:29.765
<v Speaker 2>with movies.

0:49:29.965 --> 0:49:30.005
<v Speaker 4>No.

0:49:30.845 --> 0:49:34.844
<v Speaker 2>I was already so interested in the invite, and now

0:49:34.885 --> 0:49:37.645
<v Speaker 2>we have that from Bob. Okay. These last three are

0:49:37.725 --> 0:49:42.725
<v Speaker 2>titles that have not come up that were definitely other picks,

0:49:43.365 --> 0:49:46.765
<v Speaker 2>and two of them I haven't heard of, so I

0:49:46.765 --> 0:49:50.205
<v Speaker 2>think it behooves us to mention them here in this

0:49:50.245 --> 0:49:52.525
<v Speaker 2>poll feedback. This first one I have heard of. Eric

0:49:52.605 --> 0:49:55.445
<v Speaker 2>Quigley says, dropping in to give some love to Hokum.

0:49:55.645 --> 0:49:59.205
<v Speaker 2>There's nothing groundbreaking in Hokum, but it's highly confident filmmaking

0:49:59.285 --> 0:50:01.325
<v Speaker 2>in every regard, and is by far the most fun

0:50:01.365 --> 0:50:02.964
<v Speaker 2>I had in the theater in a very long time,

0:50:03.245 --> 0:50:06.444
<v Speaker 2>not just this year. It was legitimately spooky, but also

0:50:06.525 --> 0:50:09.605
<v Speaker 2>fun and funny. It looked great, had great performances and

0:50:09.645 --> 0:50:12.605
<v Speaker 2>some legitimate pathos. I think it needs more love out there.

0:50:13.005 --> 0:50:15.605
<v Speaker 2>You can potentially give it some love if you catch

0:50:15.685 --> 0:50:16.405
<v Speaker 2>up with it VOD.

0:50:17.205 --> 0:50:20.765
<v Speaker 1>I do want to see Hocum, so thanks for reminding

0:50:20.765 --> 0:50:24.165
<v Speaker 1>me of Eric. I've never heard Adam either of these

0:50:24.205 --> 0:50:28.965
<v Speaker 1>next two, including Blue Film, which is the vote that

0:50:29.045 --> 0:50:32.405
<v Speaker 1>Steven went with here in the other category, I doubt

0:50:32.405 --> 0:50:34.245
<v Speaker 1>I will have much company. But the movie that has

0:50:34.285 --> 0:50:36.445
<v Speaker 1>stuck with me the most this year is the criminally

0:50:36.565 --> 0:50:40.165
<v Speaker 1>underseen Blue Film. It is decidedly not for everyone. In fact,

0:50:40.565 --> 0:50:42.525
<v Speaker 1>part of the reason I'm making this comment is because

0:50:42.565 --> 0:50:46.285
<v Speaker 1>I can't recommend it to anyone I know without spoiling anything.

0:50:46.685 --> 0:50:50.005
<v Speaker 1>Take a Stagy two hander like The Sunset Limited and

0:50:50.045 --> 0:50:54.125
<v Speaker 1>cross it with Todd Solens's happiness. The result is an

0:50:54.245 --> 0:50:58.685
<v Speaker 1>unflinching examination of perversion, power dynamics, and the limits of

0:50:58.765 --> 0:51:01.885
<v Speaker 1>redemption PS. I also think it checks a lot of

0:51:01.925 --> 0:51:06.525
<v Speaker 1>golden brick boxes. Okay, if we need to do that homework,

0:51:06.565 --> 0:51:09.045
<v Speaker 1>we can find blue film on VOD.

0:51:09.845 --> 0:51:12.125
<v Speaker 2>Here we go the last one from Steve Mesa. I

0:51:12.165 --> 0:51:14.484
<v Speaker 2>want to give praise to a documentary I'm always looking

0:51:14.485 --> 0:51:17.525
<v Speaker 2>for docs called The Python Hunt. Every year, the state

0:51:17.565 --> 0:51:21.365
<v Speaker 2>of Florida holds a python removal contest. The film follows

0:51:21.405 --> 0:51:24.045
<v Speaker 2>a group of eccentric hunters over the course of ten nights.

0:51:24.525 --> 0:51:26.925
<v Speaker 2>Just like his previous film, Are We Not Cats? Director

0:51:27.045 --> 0:51:30.165
<v Speaker 2>Xander Robbin's movie is about strangers who share an obsession,

0:51:30.405 --> 0:51:35.005
<v Speaker 2>in this case, hunting Snakes. Sounds miserable, not the film

0:51:35.405 --> 0:51:39.364
<v Speaker 2>Hunting Snakes. The score is tremendous and the cinematography encapsulates

0:51:39.365 --> 0:51:42.925
<v Speaker 2>the Everglades beautifully. With his feature lengthd films, Robin has

0:51:42.965 --> 0:51:45.605
<v Speaker 2>proven to be a fascinating filmmaker with a unique vision

0:51:45.885 --> 0:51:50.844
<v Speaker 2>and a bright future. Python Hunt also VOD.

0:51:50.325 --> 0:51:54.404
<v Speaker 1>Josh, I think I might have to see this. Yeah,

0:51:54.445 --> 0:51:55.125
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm in.

0:51:55.525 --> 0:51:58.645
<v Speaker 2>So let's get back into it now. We darted around

0:51:58.685 --> 0:52:00.925
<v Speaker 2>just a little bit. We've heard your five, four and

0:52:01.005 --> 0:52:03.645
<v Speaker 2>your number two because we shared a pick. So briefly

0:52:03.685 --> 0:52:05.325
<v Speaker 2>recap what were those picks?

0:52:05.645 --> 0:52:08.965
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, number five I love Boosters from Boots Riley, number

0:52:08.965 --> 0:52:13.205
<v Speaker 1>four Olivia Wilds the Invite, and up at number two

0:52:13.605 --> 0:52:17.445
<v Speaker 1>Blue Heron, one of our Golden Brick nominees at this

0:52:17.645 --> 0:52:20.845
<v Speaker 1>point from filmmaker Sophie Rumfari.

0:52:21.045 --> 0:52:24.965
<v Speaker 2>I had Obsession. At number five, we shared Sophie Rumbari's

0:52:24.965 --> 0:52:27.565
<v Speaker 2>Blue Heron. That was my number four, and at number

0:52:27.565 --> 0:52:32.645
<v Speaker 2>three I had Toy Story five. So your number three

0:52:32.725 --> 0:52:34.325
<v Speaker 2>film of the year so far is.

0:52:35.205 --> 0:52:38.645
<v Speaker 1>It is twenty eight years later the Bone Temple. I

0:52:38.645 --> 0:52:43.045
<v Speaker 1>couldn't let you have the horror pick a horror pick

0:52:43.165 --> 0:52:46.365
<v Speaker 1>on these lists, and I did not have one. Although

0:52:46.405 --> 0:52:48.325
<v Speaker 1>this is what kind of horror this is? I feel

0:52:48.325 --> 0:52:52.165
<v Speaker 1>like the series, this twenty eight series has made a

0:52:52.205 --> 0:52:55.485
<v Speaker 1>shift with the Bone Temple from zombie horror. I know

0:52:55.525 --> 0:52:59.685
<v Speaker 1>that's controversial, but at zombie horror to me to religious horror,

0:52:59.725 --> 0:53:02.565
<v Speaker 1>which was absolutely fascinating. This is another review, Adam, that

0:53:02.605 --> 0:53:05.325
<v Speaker 1>I missed while traveling. I think I think it was

0:53:05.365 --> 0:53:08.125
<v Speaker 1>in Spain at this time, and you and Roxanna Hadadi

0:53:08.605 --> 0:53:10.844
<v Speaker 1>had a great discussion about this one. I mean talk

0:53:10.885 --> 0:53:15.005
<v Speaker 1>about catnet for someone. The reason I was overseas was

0:53:15.605 --> 0:53:18.645
<v Speaker 1>to be part of a theology and the arts master's program.

0:53:18.685 --> 0:53:21.844
<v Speaker 1>And here you have the bone temple hopping in my lap,

0:53:21.885 --> 0:53:25.005
<v Speaker 1>which is essentially a showdown. It builds to the showdown

0:53:25.045 --> 0:53:29.805
<v Speaker 1>between an atheist Ray Finds, doctor Ian Kelson, and a Satanist.

0:53:29.925 --> 0:53:32.805
<v Speaker 1>This would be Jack O'Connell's Sir Jimmy Crystal.

0:53:33.725 --> 0:53:34.404
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you've got.

0:53:34.365 --> 0:53:38.285
<v Speaker 1>Kelson here, who's basically this hermit physician. He's presiding over

0:53:38.325 --> 0:53:42.165
<v Speaker 1>this ossuary. He's constructed from all these bodies left in

0:53:42.165 --> 0:53:47.325
<v Speaker 1>the wake of a savage rage virus. Kelson believes essentially

0:53:47.445 --> 0:53:50.845
<v Speaker 1>in reason and science. Those are the foundations of all things,

0:53:51.405 --> 0:53:54.485
<v Speaker 1>and so he treasures life, what is realistic about the

0:53:54.645 --> 0:53:58.645
<v Speaker 1>inevitability and finality of death. Then you get Sir Jimmy,

0:53:58.925 --> 0:54:01.844
<v Speaker 1>who we learned from a prologue to twenty eight years later,

0:54:02.565 --> 0:54:07.405
<v Speaker 1>has suffered from religious trauma in his youth. Now everything's

0:54:07.405 --> 0:54:10.605
<v Speaker 1>gone to hell, so why not recast yourself as the

0:54:10.645 --> 0:54:14.725
<v Speaker 1>prince of the place, which is what he's done this movie, Adam,

0:54:15.325 --> 0:54:19.965
<v Speaker 1>it collides in a Bonker's climax I could never have

0:54:20.005 --> 0:54:23.765
<v Speaker 1>seen coming. Nia DaCosta takes over as director here, and

0:54:23.885 --> 0:54:28.565
<v Speaker 1>she directs it this sequence with a psychedelic fervor at

0:54:28.605 --> 0:54:35.685
<v Speaker 1>the same time gives this disciplined understanding of the compositions,

0:54:36.245 --> 0:54:39.364
<v Speaker 1>so that we don't know what's happening or what's going on,

0:54:39.805 --> 0:54:42.645
<v Speaker 1>but the imagery and the framing of it is so

0:54:42.845 --> 0:54:47.085
<v Speaker 1>clear and arresting. This is a set piece that combines

0:54:47.205 --> 0:54:50.405
<v Speaker 1>iron Maidens, the number of the Beast with Christ's final

0:54:50.445 --> 0:54:54.405
<v Speaker 1>words on the cross. I mean, it's wild stuff going

0:54:54.445 --> 0:54:58.165
<v Speaker 1>on here. I was fascinated by all of it and

0:54:58.245 --> 0:55:03.885
<v Speaker 1>loved plumbing the meaning of it and appreciated the esthetic

0:55:04.245 --> 0:55:08.565
<v Speaker 1>elements that DaCosta brought. So yeah, I liked the previous film.

0:55:08.565 --> 0:55:10.765
<v Speaker 1>Twenty years later, I think The Bone Temple is doing

0:55:10.845 --> 0:55:14.325
<v Speaker 1>far more compelling things in a more focused way. And

0:55:14.485 --> 0:55:16.565
<v Speaker 1>if somehow you haven't seen it yet, it's streaming on

0:55:16.605 --> 0:55:19.325
<v Speaker 1>Netflix right now. You can rent it via other services

0:55:19.605 --> 0:55:21.484
<v Speaker 1>as well, but if you have Netflix, it's right there

0:55:21.925 --> 0:55:24.445
<v Speaker 1>for you. Remind me, Adam, I know we've talked about

0:55:24.445 --> 0:55:27.165
<v Speaker 1>this here and there, but where you were on this one,

0:55:27.205 --> 0:55:29.525
<v Speaker 1>because you were higher on twenty eight years later, I.

0:55:29.525 --> 0:55:32.885
<v Speaker 2>Was, yeah, yeah, we're just the reverse. I actually do

0:55:32.965 --> 0:55:35.205
<v Speaker 2>have this in my honorable mentions like it might be

0:55:35.325 --> 0:55:38.645
<v Speaker 2>my number ten of the year, even though I did

0:55:38.725 --> 0:55:41.485
<v Speaker 2>spend It's one of those movies, though, and it speaks

0:55:41.485 --> 0:55:44.725
<v Speaker 2>to how I feel about this series and this reinvention

0:55:44.925 --> 0:55:47.485
<v Speaker 2>or revival of the series, and the promise I have

0:55:47.605 --> 0:55:51.444
<v Speaker 2>for it after the previous entry that I spent most

0:55:51.485 --> 0:55:54.404
<v Speaker 2>of the review lamenting the things I wish it had

0:55:54.445 --> 0:55:58.165
<v Speaker 2>done better, But that's again because there's so much potential

0:55:58.205 --> 0:56:00.005
<v Speaker 2>here and also because there's so many things that I

0:56:00.045 --> 0:56:02.525
<v Speaker 2>do like about the film, So I have it in

0:56:02.565 --> 0:56:08.125
<v Speaker 2>my honorable mentions. Okay, but I was more moved and

0:56:09.165 --> 0:56:11.685
<v Speaker 2>more provoked by the last film, and we just had

0:56:11.685 --> 0:56:15.245
<v Speaker 2>the opposite experience. It's really interesting. Even though even though

0:56:15.725 --> 0:56:20.245
<v Speaker 2>I understand why you were prodded the way you were

0:56:20.365 --> 0:56:24.205
<v Speaker 2>by this film, I certainly get it. I felt narratively

0:56:25.205 --> 0:56:29.045
<v Speaker 2>this one is a little bit clunkier than the last film,

0:56:29.045 --> 0:56:31.765
<v Speaker 2>and I think that's where it It got me off

0:56:31.765 --> 0:56:34.885
<v Speaker 2>the path a little bit compared to the previous movie.

0:56:35.485 --> 0:56:39.685
<v Speaker 2>My number two film of the year, Josh, is a

0:56:39.725 --> 0:56:42.805
<v Speaker 2>movie we haven't discussed on the show. It's a film

0:56:43.045 --> 0:56:46.285
<v Speaker 2>that was part of my homework for this list. It's

0:56:46.325 --> 0:56:49.045
<v Speaker 2>one I was able to see because it's available on

0:56:49.165 --> 0:56:54.565
<v Speaker 2>demand and it's the latest film from Christian Petsold. It's

0:56:54.565 --> 0:56:59.205
<v Speaker 2>called Mirrors. Oh yeah, that's number three, and I'll give

0:56:59.205 --> 0:57:03.285
<v Speaker 2>you the very brief synopsis here the official description. After

0:57:03.285 --> 0:57:05.885
<v Speaker 2>a car crash kills her boyfriend, piano student, Laura is

0:57:05.925 --> 0:57:08.885
<v Speaker 2>taken in by Betty, who witnessed the accident. Living with

0:57:08.925 --> 0:57:12.885
<v Speaker 2>Betty's family brings comfort, but Laura starts questioning their intentions

0:57:12.925 --> 0:57:20.285
<v Speaker 2>as time passes. That's accurate, like plot synopsis usually are. Technically,

0:57:20.365 --> 0:57:24.005
<v Speaker 2>it's accurate, and it would be hard to be the

0:57:24.045 --> 0:57:30.645
<v Speaker 2>marketing person to come up with a two sentence characterization

0:57:30.885 --> 0:57:35.885
<v Speaker 2>summary of this film. But that last line really doesn't

0:57:36.605 --> 0:57:40.685
<v Speaker 2>do the movie justice or speak to the mysteries of

0:57:40.725 --> 0:57:43.645
<v Speaker 2>this film, and it makes the movie to me sound

0:57:44.525 --> 0:57:48.405
<v Speaker 2>she starts questioning their intentions as time passes, makes it

0:57:48.525 --> 0:57:54.205
<v Speaker 2>sound more ominous than the movie really is. And this

0:57:54.325 --> 0:57:58.605
<v Speaker 2>film has quite a lot of lightness and optimism to

0:57:58.645 --> 0:58:03.045
<v Speaker 2>it in my mind. The word is French for mirrors,

0:58:03.285 --> 0:58:08.325
<v Speaker 2>and you understand why that's in the title when you

0:58:08.405 --> 0:58:11.605
<v Speaker 2>watch this film. Apparently pets Old I have heard this

0:58:11.685 --> 0:58:15.205
<v Speaker 2>before as someone who is pretty obsessed with the movie Vertigo,

0:58:15.685 --> 0:58:19.925
<v Speaker 2>which is itself a movie about obsession. You see shades

0:58:19.965 --> 0:58:24.525
<v Speaker 2>of that here, Josh, because you can say without giving

0:58:24.565 --> 0:58:31.725
<v Speaker 2>away anything, that it is about one character effectively wanting

0:58:31.765 --> 0:58:34.685
<v Speaker 2>another character in the movie to take someone else's place,

0:58:35.045 --> 0:58:39.045
<v Speaker 2>wanting to be like someone else. But this isn't a

0:58:39.045 --> 0:58:44.125
<v Speaker 2>movie about doppelgangers. It's not a movie about obsession. And

0:58:44.405 --> 0:58:46.845
<v Speaker 2>although like Vertigo, I would say it is a movie

0:58:46.885 --> 0:58:51.685
<v Speaker 2>about processing grief. Again, it's just not a movie that's

0:58:51.965 --> 0:58:55.085
<v Speaker 2>as dark even as Vertigo is. It's also not as

0:58:55.085 --> 0:58:58.205
<v Speaker 2>colorful as Vertigo is. But there is just nothing sinister

0:58:58.325 --> 0:59:05.685
<v Speaker 2>here as you watch all of these characters struggle to

0:59:05.845 --> 0:59:08.565
<v Speaker 2>connect with each other. And that's really more what this

0:59:09.365 --> 0:59:12.885
<v Speaker 2>movie is about. And it also has at its core

0:59:13.485 --> 0:59:18.645
<v Speaker 2>a question that I talked about in relation to the

0:59:18.645 --> 0:59:22.125
<v Speaker 2>movie Obsession, and seems to be one I like to

0:59:22.165 --> 0:59:24.645
<v Speaker 2>talk about. I'm obsessed with talking about in relation to

0:59:24.805 --> 0:59:28.965
<v Speaker 2>films that offer this or present it, and that is,

0:59:30.405 --> 0:59:35.045
<v Speaker 2>can a simulacrum, Can a version of something or someone

0:59:36.125 --> 0:59:41.445
<v Speaker 2>offer you effectively the real thing? Offer you whatever it

0:59:41.485 --> 0:59:44.645
<v Speaker 2>is you need, whatever it is you feel like you lost.

0:59:45.525 --> 0:59:48.085
<v Speaker 2>Can they give that back to you, even if even

0:59:48.085 --> 0:59:51.005
<v Speaker 2>if you know in your mind it's not real? Is

0:59:51.045 --> 0:59:55.165
<v Speaker 2>it close enough that? That's one of the questions that

0:59:55.205 --> 0:59:59.485
<v Speaker 2>this movie poses. And it's a really intimate movie but

1:00:00.365 --> 1:00:04.485
<v Speaker 2>leaves you pondering big questions like that. Paula Behar, who's

1:00:04.525 --> 1:00:07.885
<v Speaker 2>one of the regulars that Pets Old features, is very

1:00:07.885 --> 1:00:11.045
<v Speaker 2>good in the film. Also Barbara Auer, who's someone who's

1:00:11.045 --> 1:00:14.725
<v Speaker 2>been in previous Pets Old movies, very good cast in

1:00:15.445 --> 1:00:19.725
<v Speaker 2>this movie. So highly recommend Miroua Number three, which is

1:00:19.725 --> 1:00:20.925
<v Speaker 2>available on demand.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've liked I think I've seen three or four

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<v Speaker 1>titles from him and have liked all of them. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you're this high on it, I'll have to put

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<v Speaker 1>on my list to catch up with, catch up with

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<v Speaker 1>before the year is out. Let's see. So that brings me,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe, to my number one, Yes, which I just

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<v Speaker 1>saw for the second time today. We're actually recording a

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<v Speaker 1>couple hours later than we have been lately, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, you know what, I'm going to go see

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<v Speaker 1>it again. Is this really my number one? And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Disclosure Day is my number one? And I think the

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<v Speaker 1>second watch was helpful because the one thing I want

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<v Speaker 1>to reiterate about this is as it came time to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Debbie and my younger daughter hadn't seen it

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<v Speaker 1>yet and they were available, so I was like, let's

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<v Speaker 1>go see this. And as it came closer to heading out,

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<v Speaker 1>I was getting more and more excited to see it again.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's been lost in all the debating

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<v Speaker 1>and the nitpicking, which you know, that's what movies are for.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fine over this that I've seen since it came out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just how damn exciting this is as a movie experience.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Spielberg is he's you know, yeah, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>getting Jaws. We're not getting you know, seventies or eighties Spielberg,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're getting pretty down close here. From the opening

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<v Speaker 1>face stomp at the wrestling match a touch the first

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<v Speaker 1>time where I was like, wait, did I walk in

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong theater? This is so anti Spielberg, and I

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<v Speaker 1>take it now as his assessment of contemporary human relations,

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<v Speaker 1>so it makes sense. But you have the train sequence,

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<v Speaker 1>the invisibility sequence, gag, which works. This is just great,

1:02:05.165 --> 1:02:07.325
<v Speaker 1>grand entertainment from a grand entertainer.

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<v Speaker 3>People have starved for the truth. I'm a part of

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<v Speaker 3>it now. I'm just sorry they made you a part

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<v Speaker 3>of it too.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello Jane, please.

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<v Speaker 6>Have to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting. Also, since this movie came out, I've heard numerous

1:02:26.485 --> 1:02:30.405
<v Speaker 1>people and these are, you know, folks I've talked to

1:02:30.685 --> 1:02:34.205
<v Speaker 1>friends and colleagues, but also on podcasts and stuff, say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the moment I felt, I really felt

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<v Speaker 1>the ending and I was there and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but afterwards I didn't understand why I felt that way

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<v Speaker 1>and what it what it exactly meant. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's I think that's legitimate. That's fine. Is very interesting

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<v Speaker 1>because the other reason I saw this second time is

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<v Speaker 1>as you know that the dissertation I'm working on for

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<v Speaker 1>my master's program is half Spielberg, half Scarcese. And one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things I've been exploring and using, which our

1:03:06.165 --> 1:03:09.005
<v Speaker 1>listeners are so smart they're probably familiar with this, but

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<v Speaker 1>is the idea of effect theory or affect theory, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the way art affects us in ways that bypass

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<v Speaker 1>our rational intellect but can still be felt deeply, if

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<v Speaker 1>unidentified viiably. So it's meaningful in a way that is

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<v Speaker 1>not intellectually processible. Let me say, it's not the same

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<v Speaker 1>as emotional. It's different than just being because that can

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<v Speaker 1>be manipulative, right, manipulating our emotions, and this is the

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<v Speaker 1>register that a lot of Spielberg's work operates in. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's why he focuses so much on faces when

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<v Speaker 1>there is something amazing happening in his movies. It's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>how the human characters are the focus because the movie

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<v Speaker 1>is interested in how they're being affected as much as

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<v Speaker 1>the movie is interested on the spectacle that is affecting them.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think this speaks back to how people are

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<v Speaker 1>describing the experience with this movie, right is like, but

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know why I felt that way, Like what,

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<v Speaker 1>They're a little suspicious, like what wait a minute, but

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<v Speaker 1>what does it mean? And again I think that's fair.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we should ask those questions. But it speaks

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<v Speaker 1>to the power that Spielberg still have has in this way.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll also say real quickly here, I kind of in

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<v Speaker 1>the moment in our review of Disclosure Day wondered if

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<v Speaker 1>it was his Irishman Right Again, Scorsese on my mind

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<v Speaker 1>as a movie reflecting back on other genre movies or

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<v Speaker 1>movies in that theme that they've tackled before, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think it is a capstone on a career obsession in

1:04:47.805 --> 1:04:53.045
<v Speaker 1>similar way, you know, Irishman, Gangsters, this aliens. Interestingly, both

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<v Speaker 1>verge on the didactic think. At the end of The Irishman,

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<v Speaker 1>there's that literal conversation with the priest with Frank, the

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<v Speaker 1>DeNiro character, about confession and redemption. I mean, laying it

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<v Speaker 1>all out for you in a way that Raging Bull

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<v Speaker 1>left you to figure out, right, And we have here

1:05:09.165 --> 1:05:12.885
<v Speaker 1>Emily Blunt speaking directly to the camera about empathy. Also

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<v Speaker 1>this viewing today. Both have open ended finales. So my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite touch in The Irishman is that open door to

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<v Speaker 1>Frank's room. He asked the priest to leave the door

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<v Speaker 1>open visually there and open ending, and then here Blunts

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<v Speaker 1>unfinished speech. We get one word from her and the

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<v Speaker 1>movie ends, and it's like my younger daughter was like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>they are they planning a sequel for this? And it's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>this is where these filmmakers are in their career. They're

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<v Speaker 1>they're at once didactic and also leaving it in the

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<v Speaker 1>audience's hands. So I think Irishman, you know, is a

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<v Speaker 1>defining late career statement for Scorsese. I think Disclosure Day

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<v Speaker 1>is the same. I don't I understand those people have

1:05:57.565 --> 1:05:59.805
<v Speaker 1>qualms about it and quibbles about it. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if it'll be this high at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>year for me, but right now it's at number one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I like to see it that high on your list.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll say this about my reaction to the film,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can go back and listen to our entire

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<v Speaker 2>review where I express this, I didn't rethink it later.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to use a phrase that you used with

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<v Speaker 2>your number five pick. I found it at the end

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<v Speaker 2>unconvincingly optimistic. In the moment. I was moved in different

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<v Speaker 2>ways at different points in the film, but not at

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<v Speaker 2>the ending. I was taken out of the movie at

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<v Speaker 2>the ending, and that actually undid a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>goodwill for me with that film. But I ultimately, as

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I ultimately had to recognize the thrilling experience

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<v Speaker 2>most of that film was for me in the theater.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I when I had to come down on

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<v Speaker 2>Rotten Tomatoes, whether I was giving it the tomato or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever that other symbol is, I said, yeah, I'm positive

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<v Speaker 2>on this movie because quibbles aside that that was the

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<v Speaker 2>experience I had for the most part in the theater

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<v Speaker 2>with Disclosure Day, so it earned it. It's a divisive film.

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<v Speaker 2>It has been, and that's great that Spielberg makes my

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<v Speaker 2>divisive film. This movie for me at number one. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's I don't think it's very divisive. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what the I don't know what the Rotten

1:07:33.485 --> 1:07:37.165
<v Speaker 2>Tomatoes score is. I imagine it's pretty high. Part of that, though,

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<v Speaker 2>is not many people are seeing it, Josh. The people

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<v Speaker 2>who are seeing it are the audience for this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>And there there was a part of me that thought

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I gave this a brief review on the show,

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<v Speaker 2>like one of those two minute things. But I can't

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<v Speaker 2>remember doing that, or I can't say definitively I did.

1:07:56.845 --> 1:07:58.845
<v Speaker 2>I have no record of it. I didn't check the

1:07:58.845 --> 1:08:01.085
<v Speaker 2>film spot and guide to the archives on Letterbox to

1:08:01.165 --> 1:08:04.805
<v Speaker 2>confirm it. But this may be the first real mention

1:08:04.925 --> 1:08:06.925
<v Speaker 2>of it on the show. And it is my number

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<v Speaker 2>one film of the year so far. Nirvana, the band,

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<v Speaker 2>the show, the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I was wondering about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, it's so so good. Directed by Matthew Johnson

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<v Speaker 2>who who directed the BlackBerry movie, and he co stars

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<v Speaker 2>along with Jay McCarroll, and they play themselves or versions

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<v Speaker 2>of themselves, Matt and Jay who they are trying so bad.

1:08:35.805 --> 1:08:41.205
<v Speaker 2>They're trying so hard as musicians who are in this band, Nirvana,

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<v Speaker 2>the band, they're trying so hard to book a gig

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<v Speaker 2>at the Rivoli, this club, that they end up traveling

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<v Speaker 2>back to two thousand and eight, I said on Letterbox,

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<v Speaker 2>my little one sentence, two sentence review was I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how they pulled this off. And I say, and

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<v Speaker 2>by this, I mean such an absurdly gorilla pastiche with

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<v Speaker 2>legitimate emotional stakes and the setup there is that when

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<v Speaker 2>I say how they pulled this off, as anybody who's

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<v Speaker 2>seen the movie knows that that's just part of the

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<v Speaker 2>wonder of this film is that so much of it

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<v Speaker 2>was shot with these stolen sequences, multiple ones at the

1:09:21.525 --> 1:09:25.245
<v Speaker 2>sea in Tower in Toronto that you simply can't and others,

1:09:25.485 --> 1:09:27.485
<v Speaker 2>but at sea and Tower where you simply can't. Have

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<v Speaker 2>you seen it, Josh, did you catch up?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. I still can't, And I have gone on

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<v Speaker 1>deep dives trying to figure out what's fakery and what you.

1:09:37.725 --> 1:09:42.685
<v Speaker 2>Simply can't can't. You can't accept that they're authentic, but

1:09:42.765 --> 1:09:45.805
<v Speaker 2>you also can't believe watching it that they're not authentic.

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<v Speaker 2>No matter how hard, no matter how hard you investigate

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<v Speaker 2>the frame and the activity within it, it it is

1:09:52.165 --> 1:09:56.085
<v Speaker 2>such a mind bender watching it. It's such a conundrum.

1:09:56.085 --> 1:09:59.405
<v Speaker 2>Everything just feels so real and I truly have no

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<v Speaker 2>idea and I'm just going to accept whatever the screen

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<v Speaker 2>gives me. And it's it's a back to the future parody,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's I seem to recall shades of pulp fiction

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<v Speaker 2>in it, and I don't remember how many other movies

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<v Speaker 2>that it references, and sometimes that can just bog down

1:10:16.005 --> 1:10:20.365
<v Speaker 2>a movie. And often you can you can respect, especially

1:10:20.405 --> 1:10:23.085
<v Speaker 2>as a movie. You can respect some of those jokes

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<v Speaker 2>or laugh at a few of them. No, it doesn't

1:10:26.765 --> 1:10:32.005
<v Speaker 2>here bog down or slow down anything. Somehow, every one

1:10:32.045 --> 1:10:36.725
<v Speaker 2>of those references works. And the part about stakes is

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to these characters actually having to make

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<v Speaker 2>emotional choices. I was totally invested, and rather than taking

1:10:47.085 --> 1:10:50.205
<v Speaker 2>the cliche route you think you're going to get the

1:10:50.245 --> 1:10:53.805
<v Speaker 2>obvious turn of events, it still surprises you in the

1:10:53.845 --> 1:10:55.965
<v Speaker 2>moments where it needs to surprise you. It did for

1:10:56.045 --> 1:10:59.845
<v Speaker 2>me anyway. It's just such an inventive, funny movie. And

1:10:59.885 --> 1:11:03.525
<v Speaker 2>when I say funny, there are at least three there's

1:11:03.565 --> 1:11:05.885
<v Speaker 2>three I can think of for sure off the top

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<v Speaker 2>of my head that are three legitimate contenders for funniest

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<v Speaker 2>moment of the year. That's why it's number one.

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<v Speaker 1>Time machine plan.

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<v Speaker 2>This is going to be the last plan you and

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<v Speaker 2>I ever have to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And as far as I'm concerned, they're fond of the

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<v Speaker 1>band was playing the Rivoli tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>We have the RV deck it out like the Glorreian.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's a full time machine.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, watch this, hold on to your butts.

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<v Speaker 1>I had fun with this too. There were just too

1:11:39.565 --> 1:11:42.765
<v Speaker 1>many people, like and not just fans of theirs from

1:11:42.845 --> 1:11:45.885
<v Speaker 1>years back. I mean they've been, you know, working together.

1:11:46.205 --> 1:11:48.564
<v Speaker 1>I think you said this like from two thousand and seven, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So they had their fans, but also people encountering them

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time loving this movie. So I had

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<v Speaker 1>to check it out. Yea, and yeah me too, me

1:11:56.565 --> 1:12:02.365
<v Speaker 1>too obviously, so did enjoy it? I think for me, yeah,

1:12:02.405 --> 1:12:05.085
<v Speaker 1>you described it perfectly and I just couldn't wrap my

1:12:05.165 --> 1:12:06.724
<v Speaker 1>mind around how they were doing some of this stuff.

1:12:06.765 --> 1:12:09.885
<v Speaker 1>But also there's bits like and these are the ones

1:12:09.885 --> 1:12:12.845
<v Speaker 1>that got me the most, just when they're pushing the

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<v Speaker 1>wheelbarrow along the sidewalk in Toronto with this giant extension

1:12:17.565 --> 1:12:22.925
<v Speaker 1>cord in it that's unraveling because they're trying to plug

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<v Speaker 1>in from the top of the sea and tower to

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<v Speaker 1>just like a street lamp and just everyone looking at

1:12:29.605 --> 1:12:32.525
<v Speaker 1>them as they're going by, just real people, right. So

1:12:32.765 --> 1:12:37.645
<v Speaker 1>it's stuff like that is hilarious. I think I was

1:12:38.205 --> 1:12:41.604
<v Speaker 1>predisposed to not appreciate this, probably as much as I should,

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<v Speaker 1>because I came in thinking it was Flight of the

1:12:44.885 --> 1:12:49.205
<v Speaker 1>Concord style comedy and I am I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>like the band the music element. I had a misperception

1:12:52.685 --> 1:12:55.205
<v Speaker 1>and I was looking for that. It's doing something somewhat

1:12:55.245 --> 1:12:58.605
<v Speaker 1>similar but also very different. And the barer for me

1:12:58.685 --> 1:13:00.564
<v Speaker 1>in Flight of the Concords is just so high in

1:13:00.685 --> 1:13:03.925
<v Speaker 1>terms of naive musical act, you know, trying to make

1:13:03.965 --> 1:13:09.085
<v Speaker 1>it big, and so that's that's not fair, but it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really funny. I had a great time with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And did you know, I don't think you mentioned this

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<v Speaker 1>that Matt Johnson is directing. This is fascinating to me.

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<v Speaker 1>The Anthony bourdais yes, biopic.

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<v Speaker 2>I did see that. I did see that, and.

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<v Speaker 1>That's another thing for me to wrap my head around.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. I know, because I've seen that trailer at

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<v Speaker 2>least once, and I'm very conflicted, even before I saw

1:13:36.525 --> 1:13:40.525
<v Speaker 2>that Matt Johnson was directing it. I'm conflicted because there's

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<v Speaker 2>a part of me that is drawn to biopics, even

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<v Speaker 2>though I dislike most of them. I'm especially drawn to

1:13:46.605 --> 1:13:50.405
<v Speaker 2>biopics about figures that I have some reverence for, and

1:13:50.485 --> 1:13:54.085
<v Speaker 2>I do have reverence for Anthony Bourdain. But then I

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<v Speaker 2>can't help and I know, I'm just watching a trailer.

1:13:56.165 --> 1:13:59.485
<v Speaker 2>I can't help but watch a trailer where it has

1:13:59.725 --> 1:14:03.325
<v Speaker 2>this character making pronouncements and doing and saying things that

1:14:03.365 --> 1:14:07.885
<v Speaker 2>are clearly the material that we're used to seeing and

1:14:07.925 --> 1:14:13.045
<v Speaker 2>hearing in biopics, in bad biopics that nobody in real

1:14:13.085 --> 1:14:21.604
<v Speaker 2>life has ever said, sorry, what is your name? Anthony Boardy.

1:14:23.085 --> 1:14:25.125
<v Speaker 2>But then you see that Matt Johnson's directing it, and

1:14:25.165 --> 1:14:29.685
<v Speaker 2>you think, well, maybe maybe that's just the trailer, and

1:14:29.725 --> 1:14:32.605
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to watch it and he's done something inventive

1:14:32.965 --> 1:14:35.085
<v Speaker 2>with right, Yeah, and I just need to wait and

1:14:35.125 --> 1:14:35.805
<v Speaker 2>be surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you have to think that, you have to

1:14:37.565 --> 1:14:39.205
<v Speaker 1>think that's that's possible.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, those are our top five movies of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>So far, we only had one overlap Blue Heron. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you have Josh any honorable mentions?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm going to run through, yeah, a number of

1:14:53.205 --> 1:14:55.125
<v Speaker 1>titles because I said I'd be happy with this top

1:14:55.165 --> 1:14:59.005
<v Speaker 1>ten list. Silent Friend, Rose of Devada, Exit eight, and

1:14:59.045 --> 1:15:03.085
<v Speaker 1>The Sheep Detectives would round out my list. If you're counting,

1:15:03.125 --> 1:15:05.485
<v Speaker 1>you'll notice there's a slot there for a title I'm

1:15:05.525 --> 1:15:08.085
<v Speaker 1>not going to mention right now. I also want to

1:15:08.205 --> 1:15:15.005
<v Speaker 1>say that I did some Golden Brick homework for this show.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is a movie that did not make my

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<v Speaker 1>top five. It's probably a lesser Golden Brick candidate, but

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<v Speaker 1>I want to give it some attention because for the

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<v Speaker 1>record to put it on our list, but also because

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<v Speaker 1>this is all about bringing attention to new film filmmakers

1:15:30.565 --> 1:15:34.405
<v Speaker 1>and films, and it is one Sam actually suggested we

1:15:34.485 --> 1:15:37.965
<v Speaker 1>check out. It's is God Is And this comes from

1:15:37.965 --> 1:15:42.245
<v Speaker 1>writer director Alicia Harris. She's actually adapting her play. It's

1:15:42.285 --> 1:15:47.485
<v Speaker 1>about twin sisters who are commissioned by their mother to

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<v Speaker 1>on a revenge plot.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just say, girls, I'm gonna make this real simple.

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<v Speaker 2>Nick your daddy dead, real dead. This seem a little crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>Not as crazy as setting your wife full fire, running

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<v Speaker 6>your kids and abandon them.

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<v Speaker 4>We ain kulous. How are we gonna live with ourselves?

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<v Speaker 4>And we do this this destiny type she can.

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<v Speaker 1>Harris shows real inventive vision here, which is a quality

1:16:19.645 --> 1:16:24.765
<v Speaker 1>we look for in Golden Brick candidates, especially using this

1:16:25.005 --> 1:16:29.205
<v Speaker 1>idea of them being twins, and they're split screen images

1:16:29.245 --> 1:16:32.085
<v Speaker 1>here that are very effective. The way they'll look at

1:16:32.125 --> 1:16:34.845
<v Speaker 1>each other in moments and don't say anything, but we

1:16:34.925 --> 1:16:38.125
<v Speaker 1>see the dialogue on screen above their heads. It is

1:16:38.285 --> 1:16:41.724
<v Speaker 1>very inventive. All of that I admired. I'm a little

1:16:41.885 --> 1:16:44.005
<v Speaker 1>and I'm recommending the movie people should check it out.

1:16:44.245 --> 1:16:49.005
<v Speaker 1>Is God Is. I'm a little conflicted with the glibness

1:16:49.045 --> 1:16:56.565
<v Speaker 1>of the violence and the intenseness of the root domestic

1:16:57.885 --> 1:17:01.445
<v Speaker 1>incident that's at the heart of all this. There's like

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<v Speaker 1>a real seriousness to what is driving all this and

1:17:04.925 --> 1:17:10.085
<v Speaker 1>a bit of glibness to the style and depiction of

1:17:10.085 --> 1:17:14.405
<v Speaker 1>the violence. You know, like Tarantino came to mind, who

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also very conflicted about on some of these questions.

1:17:18.045 --> 1:17:21.005
<v Speaker 1>So that's just me. I know a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the other reasons I checked this out

1:17:23.885 --> 1:17:25.725
<v Speaker 1>made a priority to check this out. Is there are

1:17:25.765 --> 1:17:27.765
<v Speaker 1>a lot of critics who are higher on it even

1:17:27.805 --> 1:17:30.965
<v Speaker 1>than me, So I do want to nod to it

1:17:31.005 --> 1:17:36.604
<v Speaker 1>for a golden brick a slot. And yeah, just note

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<v Speaker 1>midway through the year, it's one worth catching up with.

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<v Speaker 2>That's is God is okay. I said that The Bone

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<v Speaker 2>Temple was an honorable mention for me, and it is.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm actually going to just keep it off the

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<v Speaker 2>list because I think it would be number eleven. I've

1:17:49.845 --> 1:17:52.765
<v Speaker 2>got five others that I would put ahead of it,

1:17:52.965 --> 1:17:59.205
<v Speaker 2>and three of them you mentioned, Cheap Detectives, Silent Friend,

1:18:00.045 --> 1:18:06.525
<v Speaker 2>Exit eight, the two you didn't mention are one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>The movie of the year according to our listeners, and

1:18:09.445 --> 1:18:11.805
<v Speaker 2>you gave it a very positive review as well. Projectail

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<v Speaker 2>Mary's a good film.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm happy to put it. Why it's really good. Why

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to address I'm not charging you with anything.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's fine. I'm not worried about it. But it's

1:18:23.245 --> 1:18:27.085
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting, like even when I was just conceiving this

1:18:27.125 --> 1:18:28.965
<v Speaker 1>is not a reflection on the movie. It's just my

1:18:29.045 --> 1:18:31.604
<v Speaker 1>experience with it. When you sit down for this list,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, Okay, these are on here. These are on

1:18:33.485 --> 1:18:36.365
<v Speaker 1>here for sure? What's going to sneak in number five?

1:18:38.325 --> 1:18:42.205
<v Speaker 1>Like it didn't It didn't come up. It like didn't surface,

1:18:42.885 --> 1:18:45.765
<v Speaker 1>you know, as much as I enjoyed it, all the

1:18:45.805 --> 1:18:51.764
<v Speaker 1>things I appreciate about it, that's why it's not on myns.

1:18:51.805 --> 1:18:55.685
<v Speaker 2>I guess it. It came to mind right away when

1:18:55.725 --> 1:18:59.485
<v Speaker 2>I started writing down titles, but that was like a

1:18:59.525 --> 1:19:02.925
<v Speaker 2>short list of ten. I knew it wasn't going to

1:19:02.965 --> 1:19:05.245
<v Speaker 2>be in my top five, but I knew it was

1:19:05.285 --> 1:19:08.125
<v Speaker 2>going to be at least, you know, considered for the

1:19:08.165 --> 1:19:12.285
<v Speaker 2>overall list. The other film that hasn't come up, but

1:19:12.365 --> 1:19:17.245
<v Speaker 2>I do really like obviously, and I reviewed with another

1:19:17.405 --> 1:19:20.445
<v Speaker 2>critic filling in for you, Chris Klemick is the Steven

1:19:20.485 --> 1:19:26.245
<v Speaker 2>Soderberg the new sodabrig movie. The Christopher. Christopher, really good

1:19:26.245 --> 1:19:29.245
<v Speaker 2>performance by McKellen. The Christopher's on my list one that

1:19:29.285 --> 1:19:32.765
<v Speaker 2>almost snuck into my top five. So there you have it,

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<v Speaker 2>our top five films of the year so far and more.

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<v Speaker 2>You can find the complete list over at film spotting

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<v Speaker 2>dot net. Just click on lists and you will see

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<v Speaker 2>our entire top five archive.

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<v Speaker 3>Crowns Day Hammond, The Phones are Working, Children Live, Call

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<v Speaker 3>them telling us send the damn.

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<v Speaker 2>Helicopters wanted to take a moment to note the passing

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<v Speaker 2>of actor Sam Neil, the New Zealand actor. Fair to

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<v Speaker 2>say Josh forever be known as Doctor Grant in Jurassic Park,

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<v Speaker 2>at least to many of us, but his career dates

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<v Speaker 2>back to the late seventies. His first starring role was

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<v Speaker 2>in Is it Gillian Armstrong or Gillian Armstrong? I should

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<v Speaker 2>know this. I'm just as well, yeah, air that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure. I'll look that up off air and get

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<v Speaker 2>it right next time. But her debut feature nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 2>nine is my brilliant career with Judy Davis, but several

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<v Speaker 2>other notable performances.

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<v Speaker 1>Nineteen eighty one he made the cult horror film Possession

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<v Speaker 1>with Isabella Johnny and then in the early nineties, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you could say this was probably his heyday. Nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety was Dead Calm that one with Nicole Kidman. Also

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<v Speaker 1>he was in The Hunt for Red October ninety one,

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<v Speaker 1>that was VIM Vendors until the End of the World.

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<v Speaker 1>And then get this in nineteen ninety three to be

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<v Speaker 1>in Yes, Jurassic Park, great right, I mean obviously set

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<v Speaker 1>him up for life in many sequels. He was also

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<v Speaker 1>a key figure in Jane Campion's The Piano nineteen ninety four.

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<v Speaker 1>He was in John Carpenter's In the Mouth of Madness.

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<v Speaker 1>Active for the rest of his life, including you know, titles,

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<v Speaker 1>smaller titles, but ones that had big followings like Taika

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<v Speaker 1>Wytt's Hunt for the Wilder People. So yeah, Sam Neil

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<v Speaker 1>just one of those. Even when he was playing not

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<v Speaker 1>good guys, still a comforting presence. Somehow on screen he

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<v Speaker 1>managed to manage to thread that needle. All right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>move on to Massacre theater. This is where Adam and

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<v Speaker 1>I attempt to perform a scene and you get a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to win a film spotting prize. Last week we

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<v Speaker 1>massacred this scene.

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<v Speaker 6>One dollar buys five rings. If one of the rings

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<v Speaker 6>lands on one of the red bottles, they win a

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<v Speaker 6>giant ass pen.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a giant as pen.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the best prize of the park. And that's because

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<v Speaker 6>this game is on one of them. Observed, I'll drop

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<v Speaker 6>a ring from three inches.

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<v Speaker 1>Away, so nobody ever wins.

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<v Speaker 6>If someone wins a giant ass pended on your watch,

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<v Speaker 6>you should just go home because you're fired.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that was Martin Steyr and Jesse Eisenberg in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and nine Adventureland, written and directed by Greg Mottola.

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<v Speaker 1>That massacre was part of an episode that also included

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<v Speaker 1>a thlirtieth anniversary review of Independence Day. So why that

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<v Speaker 1>scene from Adventureland.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's Joe Stidham from Gainesville, Florida. This week's mascar theater

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<v Speaker 2>was from Greg Mattola's Adventureland, one of many good indie

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<v Speaker 2>comedies from two thousand and nine, somewhat overshadowed by five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred Days of Summer like Independence Day, Summer and particularly

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<v Speaker 2>July fourth feature prominently in Adventureland, though Jesse Eisenberg's Brennan

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<v Speaker 2>insists he only celebrates Best Steel Day, with one of

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<v Speaker 2>the middlelac romance scenes occurring during the firework show at

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<v Speaker 2>the park. There's also Matt Bush's Freego, who fights off

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<v Speaker 2>imaginary viet Cong with a Roman candle, echoing the more

1:22:59.445 --> 1:23:03.685
<v Speaker 2>substantial Vietnam experience of Randy Quaid's Russell. Independence Day was

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<v Speaker 2>one of my favorite movies of my childhood. I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>complete apologist to this day, and Adventureland is one of

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<v Speaker 2>my favorites of two thousand and nine the year I

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<v Speaker 2>fell in love with cinema. Thank you, Joe, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we hit a lot of great notes for Joe.

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<v Speaker 3>There.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Fred Bukama in Minneapolis, Minnesota. I'm not sure what

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<v Speaker 1>thetion to Independence Day is. I do remember a fireworks

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<v Speaker 1>scene set to Don't Dream It's Over, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>recall if that's set on July fourth.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there you go, we got the song in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Fred remembered Don't Dream It's Over. Sean Downey says he's

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<v Speaker 2>from Woodbridge, Virginia. I knew this one right away, having

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<v Speaker 2>spent multiple seasons working in the games department at an

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<v Speaker 2>amusement park Cedar Point. Now, Josh, I have mentioned on

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<v Speaker 2>the show before, but you weren't here on the show

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<v Speaker 2>when we reviewed Adventureland. I worked games at Adventureland in Iowa.

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<v Speaker 2>So talk about another movie I had a personal connection to.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, Adventureland has always resonated with me. While my

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<v Speaker 2>experience was in the late nineteen nineties, years later than

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<v Speaker 2>the film's nineteen eighty seven setting, so was mine, Shohn.

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<v Speaker 2>It captures so much of what it's like to work

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<v Speaker 2>at an amusement park during the summer. The quirky coworkers,

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<v Speaker 2>the repetitive jobs, the friendships. Okay, mine was a little

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<v Speaker 2>earlier in the nineties. But as for a connection, the

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<v Speaker 2>closest one I could come up with is Adventureland and

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<v Speaker 2>Wet Hot American Summer. Both are coming of age stories

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<v Speaker 2>set during a summer in the nineteen eighties. Each film

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<v Speaker 2>uses a temporary summer workplace as the backdrop. Underneath, they're

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<v Speaker 2>both about how one memorable summer can shape who you become.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we, or I should say, producer Sam was not

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about film spotting Fest and Wet Hot American Summer.

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<v Speaker 2>He was just thinking about that fireworks scene and the

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<v Speaker 2>July fourth backdrop. But it's a great connection.

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<v Speaker 1>Great connection. So was this before your job at the

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<v Speaker 1>theater where you told everyone to put their feet down?

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<v Speaker 2>It was after, but that summer it was one of

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<v Speaker 2>my summers back from college. And look, I wasn't making

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<v Speaker 2>that much money. I worked both jobs. I work at

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<v Speaker 2>Adventureland during the day and at night. At night I'd

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<v Speaker 2>come back and work at the theater.

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<v Speaker 1>Double shit.

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<v Speaker 2>I worked hard for my money.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I believe you did. Wow things we learn all right?

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<v Speaker 1>One more comment here. This comes from Lisa and Chris

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<v Speaker 1>of Ay or Massachusetts, which must be I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>where I was, must be close to the Ikea outside

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<v Speaker 1>of Boston because and Chris Well, helping my daughter move

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<v Speaker 1>out there into a new apartment, had to pick up

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<v Speaker 1>some front some stuff from Ikea, as any good American does.

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<v Speaker 1>And who was there? Who's there at the escalators Lisa

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<v Speaker 1>and Chris. I think they might still be there because

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<v Speaker 1>I barely got out alive. Their comment here is really

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed this film when it came out, and I do

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<v Speaker 1>recommend it. Adam's performance as Martin Starr is note perfect. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>note perfect. He perfectly captures the monotone dead in the

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<v Speaker 1>eyes delivery, while Josh was fairly competent Jesse Eisenberg.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, barely competence a lot. Yeah, take that to Chris,

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<v Speaker 2>fairly confident. Okay, that was I want to say, for

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<v Speaker 2>the record, and this is true, true everybody. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>just cherry pick the one email that praised me. It

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<v Speaker 2>was the only one we got that mentioned performances, and

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was funny. But I also love I

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<v Speaker 2>love that I was note perfect. I'll take it. Lisa

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<v Speaker 2>and Chris, I thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think everyone believes you picked it randomly. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. Once we've heard praise.

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<v Speaker 2>For your exactly. Okay, Josh, reach into the film Spotting

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<v Speaker 2>hat and pick out this week's winner.

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<v Speaker 1>Our winner is Dan Ericsson from Shoreline, Washington.

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<v Speaker 2>Congratulations Dan, email feedback at film spotting dot net to

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<v Speaker 2>claim your very own film Spotting t shirt, film Spotting

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<v Speaker 2>tote bag, film Spotting Trial membership to the family, or

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<v Speaker 2>your very own giant ass panda.

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<v Speaker 3>With symbol.

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<v Speaker 1>Would would simple? Would the was the same?

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<v Speaker 4>Why do you say that? Why do you say?

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<v Speaker 6>Will?

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<v Speaker 2>You said?

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<v Speaker 6>Say it like I said.

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<v Speaker 2>We move on now to this week's edition of Massacre

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<v Speaker 2>Theater one that either will involve genuinely a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>acting or we need to pull Dustin Hoffman's and get

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves fully into character and do some calisthenics a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of jumping jacks or something before this performance.

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<v Speaker 1>So so I hyperdentilate. We're in a high rise. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we're in a high rise.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I ran down twenty eight floors. Good, got my packages? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>John ran off.

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<v Speaker 2>I started off. You give me the askom action faked

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<v Speaker 2>all the data. Yes, there's no service.

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<v Speaker 5>No. I tried to do my duty but I knew

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<v Speaker 5>the day that I arrived here, then this place had nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>And I resisted.

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<v Speaker 1>That's temptation for years. But I knew if I just presaid,

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<v Speaker 1>but somebody would come and save me.

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<v Speaker 5>U fing flowered, yes, sir, yes, yes, yes, And scene scene.

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<v Speaker 1>And we faked you out. I didn't run downstairs, that

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<v Speaker 1>was all.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's called acting. Acting. If you know what film

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<v Speaker 2>we just massacred, email the movies title, your name and

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<v Speaker 2>location to feedback of filmspotting dot net deadline Monday, July

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seventh. We'll select the winner randomly from all the

1:29:07.205 --> 1:29:12.764
<v Speaker 2>correct entries and announce it in a couple of weeks. Josh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's our show.

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<v Speaker 2>Shop out wide this weekend a little movie you may

1:29:47.165 --> 1:29:50.885
<v Speaker 2>have heard of called The Odyssey. Next week here on

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<v Speaker 2>Film Spotting Packed Feed episode two of the movie Racket

1:29:56.005 --> 1:29:59.685
<v Speaker 2>with Michael Phillips, following up a triumphant debut episode with

1:29:59.765 --> 1:30:04.605
<v Speaker 2>Michael Shannon. Guest will be Amy Nicholson. Always fun to

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<v Speaker 2>hear her. Tuesday Film Spotting SVU talking about Groundhog Day

1:30:08.845 --> 1:30:12.325
<v Speaker 2>effect movies. Then Thursday, the next Picture Show great pairing

1:30:12.605 --> 1:30:15.485
<v Speaker 2>The Odyssey and the Cone Brothers, Oh Brother where Art

1:30:15.525 --> 1:30:20.085
<v Speaker 2>thou and Friday will be our review of Christopher Nolan's

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<v Speaker 2>The Odyssey. Josh has seen it. He said he wasn't

1:30:22.925 --> 1:30:25.485
<v Speaker 2>going to betray his reaction, but he couldn't help himself.

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<v Speaker 2>You heard it. You heard it there at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the time five.

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<v Speaker 1>Just let this.

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<v Speaker 2>I know he's positive, but that's not a shock. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>see how I feel about the latest from Nolan that

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<v Speaker 2>is coming to your Film Spotting Feed next Friday. Here

1:30:39.285 --> 1:30:39.805
<v Speaker 2>on the show.

1:30:40.445 --> 1:30:42.765
<v Speaker 1>Film Spotting is produced by Golden Joe to So and

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<v Speaker 1>Sam van Hoggren. Without Sam and Golden Joe, this show

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't go. Our production assistant is Sophie Kempinar. Special thanks

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<v Speaker 1>to everyone at Wbeazy Chicago. More information is available at

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<v Speaker 1>wbeazy dot org for film spotting, I'm Josh.

1:30:57.925 --> 1:31:00.604
<v Speaker 2>Larson and I'm Adam Kempinar. Thanks for listening.

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<v Speaker 3>This conversation can serve no purpose anymore, but fine,