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Speaker 1: Home, y'all. This is episode sixty four. As in the
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Acts that they're trying to
Speaker 1: roll back, but this is episode sixty four of Native
Speaker 1: Land Pod. I am kicking this off. I'm your host,
Speaker 1: Tiffany Cross along with my other hosts, Angela Rye and
Speaker 1: Andrew gillim And we got a pack show today, y'all.
Speaker 1: What's going on? What's all got?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: We got a special guest. That's that's one great thing.
Speaker 1: Yes, do you want to say?
Speaker 4: No, one and only Leslie Jones.
Speaker 2: We got Leslie Jones, y'all. I didn't want to give
Speaker 2: it away.
Speaker 5: I was gonna let you tell us.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: We're excited because you know, we typically have guests during
Speaker 1: our live shows. But you guys follow us. You saw
Speaker 1: Leslie was like let me be I guess and we
Speaker 1: were like, yes, through to have you. So we'll be
Speaker 1: having guests done. So this is our first show. No,
Speaker 1: it's not because we have we have Reverend we have Yeah,
Speaker 1: but what am I talking about?
Speaker 6: This is our first time virtually, to be fair to
Speaker 6: that's our first time virtually having you.
Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. So excited about that.
Speaker 4: But that's not true either, Andrew.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, I mean, hey, shout out to the first, but.
Speaker 6: It's some type of first. This is the only inauguration
Speaker 6: that matters. Yeah, right, this in this calendar year. And
Speaker 6: speaking of this calendar year, it's twenty twenty five, and
Speaker 6: also Project twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4: As well underway yesterday. Well, by the time y'all see this.
Speaker 6: Two days ago, I did an executive order of conversation
Speaker 6: with our NLP audience.
Speaker 4: We're calling them sidepods or solo pods.
Speaker 6: I I was gonna say, depending on if you ask Andrew.
Speaker 4: Or the rest of us, it's a side pod.
Speaker 6: And I think that what we also will get into
Speaker 6: every show is what is happening from Project twenty twenty
Speaker 6: five that the administration is pushing through.
Speaker 4: So that will come out for shore in today's show.
Speaker 1: I love it, Andrew.
Speaker 2: What you got, well you all know, I guess as
Speaker 2: an extension of Project twenty twenty five Trump Racist January sixth,
Speaker 2: insurrectionist slash racist bigots. Keeping with the theme and what's
Speaker 2: motivating this administration and his supporters, it seems, is coming
Speaker 2: after people of color, and in this case very specifically
Speaker 2: black folk in this withdrawing of support for a diversity
Speaker 2: and inclusion in the workplace, government, non nonprofit and for profit.
Speaker 2: I want to assess to boycott or not to boycott?
Speaker 2: That is the question. I look forward to getting into
Speaker 2: it with y'all.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of you guys have asked about that.
Speaker 1: Another question that we get asked a lot is what
Speaker 1: do we do? So many people ask in our audience
Speaker 1: but also in my personal space, just our personal friends
Speaker 1: have been asking what do we do? Angela? I know
Speaker 1: you get this question probably the most because people will
Speaker 1: even ask me, can you ask Angela? And it'd be
Speaker 1: about something very cific or something very broad. So I
Speaker 1: just want to talk about that and what that means
Speaker 1: for our audience and how we can better handle that
Speaker 1: question and how people can better frame their question.
Speaker 2: And you say, what what can we do in response
Speaker 2: to what's happening?
Speaker 6: Is that everything everybody knows? Everybody knows right now, we
Speaker 6: say what do we do? That we are in an
Speaker 6: existential crisis? How do we respond? I want to say
Speaker 6: this before we went out of the rundown. TIFU laugh
Speaker 6: at this, Andrew. For the first time. I finally got
Speaker 6: called Tiffany in an Instagram comedy yesterday. So you know,
Speaker 6: she's always like people are calling me and I was like,
Speaker 6: that doesn't happen to me. They were like, Tiffany, I
Speaker 6: just love you, can you? And I was like, I
Speaker 6: just am not Tiffany.
Speaker 4: She ain't even anything.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: They do that all this time.
Speaker 5: I get it. I get it all the time.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be called Andrew. I'm sure I know ORR
Speaker 4: today because look at my shirt.
Speaker 1: Y'all are show up.
Speaker 4: Though I know. I was just thinking that.
Speaker 6: I would support black, our own brands and historically black collegists,
Speaker 6: since don't nobody else want to.
Speaker 1: Okay exactly, speaking of let's get into it.
Speaker 7: Thank you so much for welcoming home each and every
Speaker 7: week when I listen to you guys.
Speaker 8: My name is doctor annbra Brown, and I have a question.
Speaker 8: I know that Donald.
Speaker 7: Trump is constantly putting out these ook orders that are
Speaker 7: very harmful and very impactful in a negative way towards
Speaker 7: the minorities.
Speaker 8: Especially brown and black communities.
Speaker 7: And so I think just recently he decided to stop letting.
Speaker 8: Funeral agency celebrate Black History Month.
Speaker 7: And my question is, like, why are Black Americans just
Speaker 7: allowing us to happen? Like why can't we stay up
Speaker 7: and say no, this is not what we're gonna do,
Speaker 7: Like stop giving our money to companies and organizations and.
Speaker 8: Platforms that do not care about us. When that happens,
Speaker 8: I feel like they can be defeated and show that no,
Speaker 8: you can't do this. Test like why are we allowing us?
Speaker 8: Do you have any thoughts? Fakes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Ambers, Ambers question is really hitting on what
Speaker 2: a lot of folks in our community are talking about
Speaker 2: right now. We've had conversations in my household I'm sure
Speaker 2: y'all have with with family and other friends around you know,
Speaker 2: how do we continue to give our money away to
Speaker 2: corporations who at this time are backing away from us
Speaker 2: and doing so in such a public way as you
Speaker 2: all know, and we talked about in the rundown. You know,
Speaker 2: some of the more patronized brands by our community are
Speaker 2: looking like they are betraying us, and it's hitting very,
Speaker 2: very close to home. I'll start with the fact that
Speaker 2: Target just recently announced that they were ending their DEI work,
Speaker 2: their emphasis on recruiting more minority let businesses into their profile.
Speaker 2: We'll talk more about that, but I just wanted to
Speaker 2: quickly mention some of the companies who have joined Target
Speaker 2: in stepping back from our community and supporting diversity, Amazon, Walmart, Meta, McDonald's, Ford,
Speaker 2: Harley Davidson, Lowe's, John Deere Tractor supply, Brown fore Men,
Speaker 2: and the list actually is continuing to grow. I think
Speaker 2: part of the good news is y'all is that the
Speaker 2: list of companies who are saying they are sticking with
Speaker 2: us is also growing. Some of those are Apple, Costco,
Speaker 2: Ben and Jerry's, EIF Beauty, JP Morgan, and again that
Speaker 2: list is continuing to grow. But folks, man, this is
Speaker 2: our j and I were having a conversation about the
Speaker 2: Target piece because it's one of the first places we
Speaker 2: were able to go to find Black History Month shirts
Speaker 2: that fit our kids that they could wear the school
Speaker 2: and felt we're proud about it. And we also, of course,
Speaker 2: as y'all know, have friends who are who on the
Speaker 2: merchandising side. In fact, why don't we, just before we
Speaker 2: get into our conversation just quickly throw to just one
Speaker 2: of those examples of vendors, of black vendors who are
Speaker 2: part of Target's national portfolio.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is Melissa Butler. She's the owner of the
Speaker 1: lip Bar, which is carried in Target. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 9: I've seen a lot of people like, this is why
Speaker 9: we need our own Target, or this is why we
Speaker 9: need our own Walmart, which is true. But do you
Speaker 9: know why we don't have our own Target. Do you
Speaker 9: know why we don't have our own Walmart? Because we
Speaker 9: barely shop black brands. We're constantly competing to tell people
Speaker 9: to shop the lip bar over Charlotte Tilbury, or the
Speaker 9: lip bar over Mac, or the lip bar over Nyx
Speaker 9: or Elf or etc.
Speaker 1: Etc.
Speaker 9: So the reason why we don't have these powerhouse brands
Speaker 9: is because.
Speaker 4: Our support is finicky.
Speaker 9: In twenty twenty, when it was cool to shop black
Speaker 9: owned businesses, we all got an inflated sense of support
Speaker 9: for about three months, and then by the end of
Speaker 9: the year we had all this extra inventory. Some people
Speaker 9: had hired a bunch of people, and guess what, it
Speaker 9: wasn't cool to shop black anymore. But again, the reason
Speaker 9: why we don't have the control that y'all want us
Speaker 9: to have is because we are not keeping our dollars
Speaker 9: with on our community in the first place. So now
Speaker 9: when somebody decides that they don't want to support our community,
Speaker 9: we're all up in arms.
Speaker 4: Well, we've created this.
Speaker 5: So that's one perspective, y'all.
Speaker 2: I'm curious to know, ladies, how are you all thinking
Speaker 2: about some of the upcoming I think boycotts that are
Speaker 2: pretty well predictable. Reverend al Sharpton has announced along with
Speaker 2: this committee that there'll be a strategic list of companies
Speaker 2: that will be first targeted, no pun intended. And then
Speaker 2: there's been an announcement that February first would be the
Speaker 2: start of a nationwide boycott of target. I'm curious to
Speaker 2: know how you all feel about that, especially in the
Speaker 2: context of these business owners.
Speaker 4: I am.
Speaker 6: I was so grateful to our friend, Reverend Mark Thompson
Speaker 6: in our feed we have a black media feed, and
Speaker 6: he said, and I don't think I'm out of line.
Speaker 6: We normally don't share out of here, but this is
Speaker 6: a synopsis he gave us from the letter from the
Speaker 6: Birmingham Jail, which we know is from Reverend Martin Luther King,
Speaker 6: Reverend doctor Martin Luther King. He said that there are
Speaker 6: four steps that you take in a direct action against
Speaker 6: any entity, and the first is the collection of the evidence,
Speaker 6: which I think that we mostly have. These companies have
Speaker 6: come out now and have said where they are rescinding,
Speaker 6: where they are retracting. I do think it's important that
Speaker 6: we distinguish Amazon, and we can talk about that today
Speaker 6: or another time. To negotiation, which normally are your list
Speaker 6: of demands. I have not seen a list of any
Speaker 6: clear demands. The third is spiritual purification. As you all know,
Speaker 6: doctor King had a commitment to nonviolent resistance. Some people
Speaker 6: believe it's something else, but there is that. And then
Speaker 6: the fourth is direct action, which are your protests, your boycotts, etc. Now,
Speaker 6: what I think is important in this day and age
Speaker 6: is I think we've gotten very comfortable with our ability
Speaker 6: to blow things up. And I don't mean in a
Speaker 6: literal sense. I mean in a figurative sense. We can
Speaker 6: say like we're gonna take this person that we cancel
Speaker 6: in this person, this brand is canceled, blah blah, but
Speaker 6: we don't have no type of strategic plan.
Speaker 4: Reverend now has talked.
Speaker 6: About them doing a ninety day review and then selecting
Speaker 6: two companies from that there are more than two companies
Speaker 6: that are basically assaulting our community, trying to take our money,
Speaker 6: but not respect us, not honor us. And I think
Speaker 6: that we do need to be in conversation with the
Speaker 6: vendors at these brands to figure out what does support
Speaker 6: look like for them if these boycotts are indeed going
Speaker 6: to happen. What we should not do is subject our friends,
Speaker 6: our family, brands that we care about to friendly fire,
Speaker 6: because people are going to be real hot about if
Speaker 6: they can't get Boss Lady no more. They're gonna be
Speaker 6: real hot about if they can't get something from Tapa,
Speaker 6: whether it's her book or some products she has in Target.
Speaker 6: And I think that we are at a time a
Speaker 6: very critical juncture where when we make enough noise, when
Speaker 6: we make our demands clear, and we are on one
Speaker 6: accord about it, there.
Speaker 4: Is a response.
Speaker 6: And I'll give you an example that's very timely right now. Yesterday,
Speaker 6: the Trumpet or the night before, the Trump administration put
Speaker 6: out a memo from the Office of Management and Budget,
Speaker 6: which is what I talked about on the Live show yesterday,
Speaker 6: which was essentially a federal funding freeze. Today as a
Speaker 6: result of the up uproar as a result of the
Speaker 6: clear information we gathered as a result of our requirements
Speaker 6: about what our expectations are as taxpayers of the federal government.
Speaker 6: That federal funding freeze has been rescinded. It's been rescinded.
Speaker 6: A judge stopped them yesterday. But today just now breaking
Speaker 6: news while we're recording, it's been rescinded.
Speaker 4: Stuff happens when we move, things change when we.
Speaker 6: Stand together, and so I would implore us to figure
Speaker 6: out what our demands look like in this very critical time,
Speaker 6: not just of brands, not just of entities, nonprofits, etc.
Speaker 6: But also of this administration and also of the Congress,
Speaker 6: particularly those representatives who are aligned with our beliefs. If
Speaker 6: we stand on run accord, I believe that fascism can
Speaker 6: be beat. So I wanted to use that example because
Speaker 6: I think it's a timely and it's an approach that
Speaker 6: works universally. Sure our methods can change. We don't have
Speaker 6: to do as doctor King did in the fifties and
Speaker 6: the sixties as TIFFs.
Speaker 4: So Alane went out as a.
Speaker 6: Sixty fourth episode for the nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act,
Speaker 6: because we're trying to preserve it.
Speaker 4: What is it look what does preservation, survival and.
Speaker 6: Abundance look like it look like for us in this
Speaker 6: day and age. And I think that is what we
Speaker 6: need to wrestle with and get on the same page about.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: I want to thank doctor Brown for a question. Appreciate
Speaker 1: you listening and tuning in and taking the time to
Speaker 1: drop a video. I do take a bit of an
Speaker 1: issue with the framing, and I think it's important for
Speaker 1: us to know Black folks ain't sitting around letting anything happen.
Speaker 1: We have never done that, and I can see why
Speaker 1: some people may think that. And she's not doctor Brown.
Speaker 1: You're not the only person I've heard say that. I've
Speaker 1: heard so many people say that, and I want you
Speaker 1: to know it is not true. We have never been
Speaker 1: a docile, laid down and let it happen people. We
Speaker 1: have always we damn near freed ourselves in this country.
Speaker 1: You know, we did free ourselves in this country, and
Speaker 1: we are a liberated people who will fight to hold
Speaker 1: and protect that liberation. I know a lot of what
Speaker 1: you see, the imagery you see on the very antiquated
Speaker 1: echo chambers of cable news, shows like there are two
Speaker 1: equal forces fighting each other because so often our truth
Speaker 1: makes them uncomfortable, so that's not what gets highlighted. Our
Speaker 1: resistance makes them uncomfortable. That's why you only hear about
Speaker 1: Nat Turner as if that was the only slave rebellion,
Speaker 1: when in truth, what there were hundreds of people who
Speaker 1: fought to the death. And so if I can offer
Speaker 1: some hope, there are people all across this country right
Speaker 1: now as we sit here and speak, who are activating,
Speaker 1: who are organizing, who are trying to figure it out,
Speaker 1: just like you, and I think we have to at
Speaker 1: least keep that hope in mind. Don't believe their truth
Speaker 1: about us. What we need in this moment is black
Speaker 1: folks who believe in black folks enough to not believe
Speaker 1: the bullshit they put out there about us. So and
Speaker 1: you all hear us on this podcast. You've watched the
Speaker 1: work that Angela does, You've seen the work that Andrew does,
Speaker 1: the work that we do here together to try to
Speaker 1: make sure that people are informed. And we can't do
Speaker 1: it all by ourselves. So I think that's an important
Speaker 1: distinct distinction to make We are not let standing by
Speaker 1: letting anything happen.
Speaker 2: I feel that I feel that I also feel what
Speaker 2: Amber is pointing out if I were to compare the
Speaker 2: Trump administration one to the Trump administration two and how
Speaker 2: the country seemed to respond. Right now in this moment,
Speaker 2: the pushback feels pretty vacant, pretty void, And from just
Speaker 2: my own personal lived experience and conversations you know, that
Speaker 2: I've had and just things that I've observed, it feels
Speaker 2: like this man is browbeating us. We are catching whiplash
Speaker 2: left and right, trying to keep up with the impact
Speaker 2: of these executive orders. Angela's breaking news on the recension
Speaker 2: of one. We saw them step back on the Tuskegee
Speaker 2: Airmen when they had taken that out of the training
Speaker 2: curriculum for members of the Air Force and the larger military,
Speaker 2: And so they're hearing something and it's feeling like we're
Speaker 2: revving up to show that we are prepared to reckon
Speaker 2: with you when you better be prepared to reckon with
Speaker 2: us if we can square up. But a as a country,
Speaker 2: when we look at the inauguration and we see corporation
Speaker 2: after corporation after corporation, people who wrote statements following January sixth,
Speaker 2: cutting ties, We're done with this. This was a you know,
Speaker 2: a reach too far? Are now special guests, and everybody's
Speaker 2: treking down tomorrow Lago to pay homage to bend the knee.
Speaker 2: That is, in my experience pretty how do you say
Speaker 2: deflating for the opposition? And my response really is twofold
Speaker 2: so one to our leaders, our national leaders, folks in Congress,
Speaker 2: I mean folks in the Senate, I mean these are elected.
Speaker 2: I'm speaking very specifically on the elected side of this,
Speaker 2: which is y'all need to clone Mitch McConnell on the left,
Speaker 2: because I don't know how it is that when Republicans
Speaker 2: were out of power, they were somehow able to bring
Speaker 2: the government, the business to a grinding halt. When the
Speaker 2: President declared war on the Congress by saying he has
Speaker 2: appropriation power over them, wherein it's given to the Congress
Speaker 2: in the Constitution of the United States, I would have said,
Speaker 2: we ain't hearing no more nominees for any position in
Speaker 2: this government until we come to a reckoning on the
Speaker 2: fact that Congress is the appropriator by constitution. Why would
Speaker 2: we go from calling this man out saying that he
Speaker 2: is creating an illegal act by trespassing on the rights
Speaker 2: and the responsibility of Congress through appropriation and then in
Speaker 2: the afternoon hold a confirmation hearing for three four five
Speaker 2: of his nominees. No, sir, we're bringing the Congress to
Speaker 2: a halt until you recognize this because this man is
Speaker 2: willing to roll the dice and take a chance that
Speaker 2: the same Supreme Court that made him a king when
Speaker 2: it comes to prosecution and accountability, will be the same
Speaker 2: Supreme Court that will hold him, that will have his
Speaker 2: back on this fight with Congress around appropriation and then
Speaker 2: to the boycotts. Just real quick and I'll be done.
Speaker 2: And this is to say the folks in Montgomery did
Speaker 2: not want to have to disrupt their lives by walking
Speaker 2: and carpooling to work, to church, to school, to social activities.
Speaker 5: You have it.
Speaker 2: When the boycott was announced, it wouldn't agreed upon by
Speaker 2: all black people and Montgomery. In fact, we know that
Speaker 2: through protests practically ten percent of us participated and all
Speaker 2: of the civil rights demonstrations combined during that period of time.
Speaker 2: So we're not going to be able to get everybody
Speaker 2: signed on and by in uh through ballot or or
Speaker 2: them expressing their opinions. But the damn thing, after a
Speaker 2: year's time worked. It was inconveniencing. It was. It was
Speaker 2: mind boggling, it was frustrating, it was angering for us,
Speaker 2: but they stuck to it. We there was an announcement,
Speaker 2: there was the plan was laid. We said we are
Speaker 2: not getting back on this and back on this bus,
Speaker 2: and that indignity to be suffered until y'all come to heal.
Speaker 2: And they bought Montgomery to heal. I say that to say,
Speaker 2: I've seen people texting and me, and and and and
Speaker 2: my wife and just reading some of this stuff. Folks,
Speaker 2: Well we can't do this because we got black brands. Well,
Speaker 2: guess what. We spent a couple of days just looking
Speaker 2: at how we can get access to those black brands
Speaker 2: outside of Target. Is there a direct distribution from a
Speaker 2: from a provider directly to my house? And yes it
Speaker 2: existed for a good number of them. Target was a
Speaker 2: distribution opportunity, but there was also a direct way to
Speaker 2: get to the to the to the vendor to get
Speaker 2: what it is that you want us you can support them.
Speaker 2: So all I have to say is where there is
Speaker 2: a will, there is a way. And if it isn't
Speaker 2: making you uncomfortable, if it isn't disrupting your pattern, if
Speaker 2: it isn't inconveniencing, mind boggling, mind blowing, upsetting, then you're
Speaker 2: not doing it right.
Speaker 1: Can I add?
Speaker 2: But these folks have never coming to us with respect
Speaker 2: until we use our dollars to say hell Na, If
Speaker 2: you don't respect me enough to employ me and to
Speaker 2: employ the qualified brothers and sisters who are putting product
Speaker 2: into this street, then you don't deserve my money. Period.
Speaker 1: Angela. Let me ask you, because Andrew's making this point
Speaker 1: about our de lyrics in Congress, and I have to
Speaker 1: be honest, like, I don't know who our leaders are,
Speaker 1: and I you know, Andrew respectfully, I definitely am not
Speaker 1: looking at elected officials as our leaders these days, because
Speaker 1: I think they are there to uphold an institution that
Speaker 1: quite frankly needs to be disrupted. At this point, I
Speaker 1: think I'm ready to dis antle everything. But Andrew, you
Speaker 1: do make a legitimate point that so many other people
Speaker 1: have set. What are Democrats doing so, Angela? You heard
Speaker 1: Andrew suggests, well they need to just halt government? Is
Speaker 1: that possible? One? Do the Democrats have the power to
Speaker 1: do that? And two? Is the Congressional Black Caucus large
Speaker 1: enough in number where they can halt legislation. Most of
Speaker 1: them are in the House, so I don't know how
Speaker 1: they would like halt the Senate confirmations. And as we're
Speaker 1: so disaggregated in Congress, and as a Democratic Party is
Speaker 1: so disaggregated, you have white people there in the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1: Who are you know, representatives in Congress who want to
Speaker 1: uphold the institution of white supremacy, so it's not in
Speaker 1: their interest to bring it to a haul. All the
Speaker 1: Republicans were united in upholding white supremacy, and on the
Speaker 1: Democratic site you don't have that. So what power do
Speaker 1: Democrats have?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 6: So first I just want to say we didn't know
Speaker 6: what our mini power was going to be at I
Speaker 6: really hope our MINIPO today can be the first party.
Speaker 4: Your question, which is, I don't.
Speaker 6: Even know who our leaders are, Okay, let's do journey
Speaker 6: not look into two members of Congress. So I'm dying
Speaker 6: to know who your leaders are. That is a cold tease,
Speaker 6: So y'all just know. And also, since we talked about
Speaker 6: teases before I answer this question, I'm already off topic.
Speaker 4: You guys.
Speaker 6: We have a really great interview with Leslie Jones at
Speaker 6: the end of this show. Make sure you stay and
Speaker 6: hear that interview. So the CBC does have the numbers,
Speaker 6: but more importantly, the Congressional Black Caucus has always had
Speaker 6: the conscience. And I think what is incumbent upon all
Speaker 6: of us as black people right now is to move
Speaker 6: as if we are the conscience of whatever space we occupy.
Speaker 6: I love what Andrew said because it's such a good reminder.
Speaker 6: You guys know, my memory sucks, but it was such
Speaker 6: a good reminder what Andrew said. Only ten percent of
Speaker 6: the people participated in the boycott practice in Montgomery. I
Speaker 6: was watching this clip. It was Doctor Claude Anderson recently,
Speaker 6: and this man was like critiquing a clip of Doctor
Speaker 6: Claude on Breakfast Club. He mentioned that there was a
Speaker 6: black man, I believe it was a preacher, and I
Speaker 6: want to get this wrong, who offered up buying our
Speaker 6: own buses during the time of the boycott. And I
Speaker 6: had never heard this. I don't know if you guys
Speaker 6: are familiar with the story. I had never heard this story.
Speaker 6: Doctor King at al didn't want that as a part
Speaker 6: of this strategy. But what would have happened if that man,
Speaker 6: if this preacher would have just proceeded and said, well,
Speaker 6: ain't but ten percent. He also, let's ten percent over
Speaker 6: here are going to work on this. We are so
Speaker 6: much more powerful when we play our role. When we
Speaker 6: play our position, Like everybody not gonna go to the
Speaker 6: boycott in a protest, and that's fine, you still gonna
Speaker 6: reap the benefits like I wish you would participate. But
Speaker 6: what I'm saying is ultimately your obligation is to find
Speaker 6: your lane and occupy that well, it is to dominate that.
Speaker 6: It is the person that writes the best should be
Speaker 6: doing our demands. The person that articulates should be speaking
Speaker 6: our demands. The person that can go and negotiate and
Speaker 6: isn't the rebel riser should should be negotiating our demands,
Speaker 6: and then we have to figure out what next. But
Speaker 6: when I think about our members, the CBC was never monolithic,
Speaker 6: and it's definitely not.
Speaker 4: Now you said you don't know who.
Speaker 6: Our leaders are, but the main leader we have is
Speaker 6: a black man. For the first time, we have the
Speaker 6: first ever black Democratic leader, and Hakem Jeffries as frankly, especially.
Speaker 4: This week, as far as I'm concerned, been killing it.
Speaker 6: They raised hell about the onb memo and they saw rewards.
Speaker 4: There is a day of.
Speaker 6: Action that they're planning the day this podcast drops, where
Speaker 6: they're engaging all types of organizations with different interests to
Speaker 6: ensure that this administration knows that it can't run over anybody. Now,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you the message has been a little flawed.
Speaker 6: And I've said this to as many of them as
Speaker 6: I can. It's not cohesive. And if enough people, whether
Speaker 6: they're influenced or athletes or their political commentators, enough people
Speaker 6: have said they're not clear about what the.
Speaker 4: Democrats path forward is.
Speaker 6: I think that they do need to say, you know,
Speaker 6: this is a president that we didn't expect to see
Speaker 6: in this role. Again, we have been on our heels.
Speaker 6: We were on our heels of Project twenty twenty five.
Speaker 6: We talked about it, but we didn't plan for it.
Speaker 6: Now here are our plans, here's how we're going to respond.
Speaker 6: We have Lisa blown Rochester, we have Corey Booker, we
Speaker 6: have Angela also Brooks, we have Raffaeo Warnock, and we
Speaker 6: have people who are allies to them that could stop,
Speaker 6: you know, closure in the Senate who could say no,
Speaker 6: you're not going to have unanimous consent to proceed with
Speaker 6: these nominees.
Speaker 4: A lot of folks have said.
Speaker 6: They could push back on the folks who he keeps
Speaker 6: trying to nominate, who represent because they wrote the chapters
Speaker 6: in Project twenty twenty five, including his OMB nominee who's
Speaker 6: not even an yet.
Speaker 4: That was the interim that caused out of hell.
Speaker 6: Yesterday, right, So there are things that they can do
Speaker 6: in that regard as well. We can go on and
Speaker 6: on about the ways, but I just don't want us
Speaker 6: to give hope. And we should always remember that our
Speaker 6: most sacred obligation to these members of Congress is not
Speaker 6: to expect them to move without our demands. We should
Speaker 6: be telling them what we want to see, what we
Speaker 6: need to see, whether it's on our movement building, it's
Speaker 6: on messaging from them, or it's on legislation that we
Speaker 6: need them to pass or block.
Speaker 2: Angela, can I just borrow you.
Speaker 1: You really quickly, just so our viewers know. O and
Speaker 1: B is the Office of Management budget sola OMB memo.
Speaker 1: It is the memo announcing the funding free. So anytime
Speaker 1: you hear O and B, that's what that is. Office
Speaker 1: of Management.
Speaker 5: Correct, thank you for that.
Speaker 4: In yesterday, I said that ninety two times.
Speaker 2: I just want to give an example of what a
Speaker 2: member of the United States Senate could do when I
Speaker 2: said grind his confirmations to a whole Tommy Tubberville, a
Speaker 2: US Senator last year, refused to confirm any nominees to
Speaker 2: the military brass brought it to a screeching halt for months.
Speaker 2: Criticized by Republicans and Democrats alike for the tactic, A
Speaker 2: single member of the US Senate, which we got what
Speaker 2: forty seven, forty eight Democrats whatever that are in the
Speaker 2: United States Senate, one of them can grind that body
Speaker 2: to a complete and total halt. Now again, I don't
Speaker 2: think you go nuclear on every fight that we have
Speaker 2: with this administration. I actually think they ought to have levels.
Speaker 2: There are to be levels of urgency. This one, we
Speaker 2: just get into people to make calls. This time, we're
Speaker 2: going and we're putting our best communicators out there, and
Speaker 2: they're going to bring the message into American people's homes.
Speaker 2: Third level, when we at you know, level red, then
Speaker 2: we are shutting shit down. And what I am terrified
Speaker 2: of right now is that they have been told by
Speaker 2: consultants that because Donald Trump is going to do everything
Speaker 2: and have us ridditing every which way. We have to
Speaker 2: hold our fire for just the right fight. Well, that
Speaker 2: is nonsense. If Donald Trump is dropping shit every single
Speaker 2: day that is impacting our lives, why do we leave
Speaker 2: him the zone to make his message known? And nobody
Speaker 2: is there with a counter And I don't mean nobody,
Speaker 2: but I just mean a coordinated, strong, impactful, and strategic
Speaker 2: way getting out there and fighting this man. You meet
Speaker 2: him right where he is, well it it doesn't take
Speaker 2: the right fight. Every fight that is deriving us of
Speaker 2: our livelihood is the right fight.
Speaker 4: I agree with that.
Speaker 1: I like the idea of doing a minipod on who
Speaker 1: are our leaders? I think that's definitely worth a discussion.
Speaker 1: Some of the things you all are speaking to about
Speaker 1: the fight and you know how to frame the fight.
Speaker 1: I think it gets us to the conversation around what
Speaker 1: do we do? And so we do have a viewer
Speaker 1: question who poses a specific question around what Native Land
Speaker 1: can do. So let's take a listen to that question,
Speaker 1: and then I have thoughts on the other side.
Speaker 3: Good morning, Native lamp pod and pod fans.
Speaker 10: My question is for right now that we already know
Speaker 10: we got four years of this everyday spend cycle that
Speaker 10: will be the second round of the Trump administration. How
Speaker 10: can Native Lamp pod help individuals understand better how to
Speaker 10: get involved with the local and state government, because basically
Speaker 10: the feeds have already said thanking the food with us,
Speaker 10: So if y'all could, could y'all providing insight to help
Speaker 10: us out watch for the hook?
Speaker 5: I love yes at the end of the building.
Speaker 1: Yes, shout out to Omega Side five Fraternity Incorporated. We
Speaker 1: appreciate your question, brother, But I I love that question
Speaker 1: because I like that he's focused on where can we go?
Speaker 1: What can we do? But you know, I get asked
Speaker 1: this question all the time, what do we do? What
Speaker 1: do we do? What do we do? This question is
Speaker 1: a little different because he's saying, Okay, the federal government
Speaker 1: is going to be bulldozing ahead, what can we do
Speaker 1: at the state and local level? And as I said
Speaker 1: many times before, a lot of these policies began at
Speaker 1: the state and local level. A lot of these shitty
Speaker 1: policies bubble up from your Republican controlled state legislatures. These billionaires,
Speaker 1: they are smart, they are strategic. They start placing people
Speaker 1: on your school boards because that is a launching pad
Speaker 1: for them to get into Congress, they start funding campaigns
Speaker 1: as a state representative, a state senator. So you know,
Speaker 1: some of this stuff has already happened. But this idea
Speaker 1: of and my co host may disagree with me, so
Speaker 1: I want to hear you guys thoughts. This idea of
Speaker 1: somebody guide, somebody, point us in the right direction. And
Speaker 1: we can get more into this on THEO when it
Speaker 1: comes to our leadership. But what I've started asking people
Speaker 1: is well what are you doing? Because I'll say I
Speaker 1: am not an all seeing guru where I can say, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: well here's what you need to wake up tomorrow and do.
Speaker 1: I'll ask people, well, what is it that you care about?
Speaker 1: What is the thing that's impacting you and your family most,
Speaker 1: you and your community most? And then there's usually something
Speaker 1: you can do in that capacity, there's some sort of
Speaker 1: resource you can find. Our good sister Joteka Edie does
Speaker 1: the win with Black women. Call every Sunday where they are.
Speaker 1: It's thousands of women from across the country organizing. That's
Speaker 1: just a step. Because some people have said to me, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not the person to bring it together, I'm the
Speaker 1: person to give me, my marchin orders, and I go
Speaker 1: out and do it, and so my pushback. I always
Speaker 1: say this all the people who say, if I was
Speaker 1: alive during the Civil Rights Movement, I would have Whatever
Speaker 1: you're doing right now is the thing you would have
Speaker 1: been doing.
Speaker 2: Then.
Speaker 1: If you doom scrolling through Instagram, that's what you would
Speaker 1: have been doing during the Civil Rights movement. If you
Speaker 1: are man twelve hours of TV, that's what you would
Speaker 1: have been doing during the Civil Rights Movement. The time
Speaker 1: is now, So when it comes to these local government,
Speaker 1: I think it's a lot easier to navigate local government.
Speaker 1: And this takes the example of black folks ain't just
Speaker 1: sitting around letting something happen. It's a lot eier. You
Speaker 1: can get twenty of your friends at your house and
Speaker 1: have a state senator over and confront them and talk
Speaker 1: to them, say I got twenty people, we all got
Speaker 1: twenty dollars each to donate your campaign, or we ain't
Speaker 1: got nothing. We got bodies to move. I want to
Speaker 1: come you to come to my house and hear what
Speaker 1: we care about. You can do that. The city council,
Speaker 1: school board, state rep, state senator, and even a representative
Speaker 1: from the governor's office, like make noise and be heard.
Speaker 1: So that's just my thought. But I'm curious from you
Speaker 1: guys because I know you all get that question all
Speaker 1: the time. And what do you say when individuals ask
Speaker 1: you that?
Speaker 4: I want to defer to Andrew.
Speaker 6: And I'm also going to add an extra layer onto
Speaker 6: this question for you, ag. You started such a tremendous
Speaker 6: organization that I don't think gets enough credit. When you
Speaker 6: were at P five, which is People for the American Way,
Speaker 6: Andrew created an it's called the Young Elected I know
Speaker 6: my question, Damn, I got it, the Young Elected Officials Network.
Speaker 6: And it was so powerful because they harnessed the collective
Speaker 6: energy and power of young elected officials and various capacities
Speaker 6: throughout the country. Many of them are still in elected office. Sadly,
Speaker 6: he's gonna be mad that I'm gonna do this, but I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna do it.
Speaker 6: Sadly, one of them went on to become a turncoat,
Speaker 6: that is Kristen Cinema. Kristen Cinema left and we don't
Speaker 6: know what happened, or we pray that the lawyer brings
Speaker 6: her back home to her right mind and to her
Speaker 6: better politics.
Speaker 4: But in the meantime, Andrew, I do think.
Speaker 6: That things like that, where you're not only strategizing on
Speaker 6: policies that matter and that would be impactful for communities,
Speaker 6: but also what roads lead to next positions for these
Speaker 6: folks are mission critical. Can you please talk about the
Speaker 6: important of folks being engaged and running for office themselves?
Speaker 6: Like it's so shyy to be in the game when
Speaker 6: you standing on the sidelines barking orders but you're not
Speaker 6: there on the field.
Speaker 4: I'm one of those. I'm gona stay on the sidelines,
Speaker 4: but care that's real.
Speaker 2: And when you barking them a lot of times you're
Speaker 2: not barking them to the right people.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you kick it up dust.
Speaker 2: But I will say this because it's such a it's
Speaker 2: a good question, a profound question, and also an accessible
Speaker 2: response and answer. Y'all, it is not rocket science. I
Speaker 2: know it feels that way. But you can't eat an
Speaker 2: elephant hole. You eat it piece by piece by peace.
Speaker 2: Angela earlier reference, we all have a role to play.
Speaker 2: The first role all of us out of play is
Speaker 2: we need to lock into our cell phone the district
Speaker 2: office number for our member of Congress and both of
Speaker 2: our United States Senators. I understood the question, but I
Speaker 2: do not concede that the federal government is out of
Speaker 2: our reach simply because the Republicans are in control. That's
Speaker 2: when the that's when the right woke up, when we
Speaker 2: were in control, started turning local offices and began going
Speaker 2: after Barack Obama and the Democratic Congress on the House,
Speaker 2: on the Senate side, and throwing them out at the
Speaker 2: midterm elections. This is go time right now. We are
Speaker 2: not excused out of Washington, DC because we are the majority,
Speaker 2: and they still got our money up there, and we
Speaker 2: ought to be telling them where those dollars ought to go.
Speaker 2: So locking those numbers because we ought to be making
Speaker 2: those calls. Every time the word comes down, we hear
Speaker 2: that they're doing something, y'all. I know it sounds overplayed,
Speaker 2: but I'm telling you right now, I've been an elected official.
Speaker 2: I've been on the receiving end of what a massive
Speaker 2: response looks like and what a doll response looks like.
Speaker 2: And when the doll response comes in, I can tell
Speaker 2: you it had no impact whatsoever on the way I
Speaker 2: was going to vote on an issue, left or right, center, whatever.
Speaker 2: A huge response for I'm a zoning issue. Right, a
Speaker 2: gas station wants to go in on the end of
Speaker 2: the corner of this neighborhood. The neighborhood says, we don't
Speaker 2: need no gas station, we need a grocery store. Then
Speaker 2: they organize and they start sending letters. They call my office,
Speaker 2: They left messages we are against this. We are against
Speaker 2: this even if no grocery store is out there to
Speaker 2: be had right now. We believe you ought to sit
Speaker 2: on the land until there is one that is ready
Speaker 2: for us. Right And when those when my staff came
Speaker 2: in and said, we've the phones are ringing off the
Speaker 2: hook today about this thing, I knew that I couldn't
Speaker 2: be cavalier. I had to deepen into it. I had
Speaker 2: to know what I needed to know so that however
Speaker 2: I arrived at my decision, I could explain it. It
Speaker 2: was reasoned and it could stand the test of time.
Speaker 2: So when we choose to say, oh, both my senators
Speaker 2: are Republicans, and so they're not gonna hear me anyway,
Speaker 2: light that line up anyway, because their interns and their
Speaker 2: staff are going to report to them.
Speaker 3: Sir.
Speaker 2: We got a lot of calls on this, and guess
Speaker 2: what that member of Congress is gonna ask that elected.
Speaker 2: The physic's gonna ask, hey, are we hearing much feedback
Speaker 2: from the district about such and such?
Speaker 4: And two zero two two two four three one two one,
Speaker 4: and request to speak to your US House of Representative
Speaker 4: member or your senator.
Speaker 2: And if you don't touch that google zero.
Speaker 4: Two two zero two two two four three one two one.
Speaker 6: That's not how you reach Andrew, but that is how
Speaker 6: you reach your members of Congress.
Speaker 2: That is a a shuffle board. You call it, You
Speaker 2: tell them who you want.
Speaker 3: What is it?
Speaker 2: Called it?
Speaker 3: Something?
Speaker 2: Board? Switchboard, switchboard and see look at me. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna list out everything at
Speaker 2: this time, y'all, but I will say the accountability piece
Speaker 2: here when we're out of power, quote is everything. We
Speaker 2: cannot go silently into that good night.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: If they are coming for us, they need to hear
Speaker 2: us in response. The other thing. It takes work, it
Speaker 2: takes effort, it takes energy. But this is our time
Speaker 2: where we need to be in our local communities registering
Speaker 2: people to vote, and not just registering them to vote,
Speaker 2: activating them around the issues in their neighborhood and in
Speaker 2: our communities. That we can impact. If ten of us
Speaker 2: went down to the city Hall meeting tonight and had
Speaker 2: a word to say, I guarantee you, your mayor and
Speaker 2: your commissioner's council members will hear you, because we don't
Speaker 2: get ten people out of meeting on a single issue ever,
Speaker 2: and when they do show up, it's a big a deal. Okay,
Speaker 2: so it does. I guess I should say this. It
Speaker 2: ain't that hard, y'all. It does require some work, but
Speaker 2: everything I've said to this point is within our touch,
Speaker 2: it's within our reach.
Speaker 1: They want us to believe that it's hard. They want
Speaker 1: us to believe that they're inaccessible. It's complicated. Government lingo
Speaker 1: is so complicated, and it does. I think there's a
Speaker 1: concerted effort to not have intelligent found in black folks
Speaker 1: who can actually take government lingo and make it very digestible,
Speaker 1: very accessible. The Beltwegh media is very incestuous the way
Speaker 1: they talk about these things, and they don't make it
Speaker 1: very accessible to the masses. I know we have to
Speaker 1: wrap up soon because I'm excited to get to the
Speaker 1: mini pod about Angela's question, and I'm really excited because
Speaker 1: we're going to have Leslie Jones on in just a
Speaker 1: few minutes. And you know, look, I there's a lot
Speaker 1: of serious things happening in the world, but black joy
Speaker 1: is defiance. And you know it's okay sometimes to have
Speaker 1: a light moment. But this is the question I want
Speaker 1: to ask you guys, because it's something that I think
Speaker 1: so many of us are struggling with. There is there
Speaker 1: are some who believe we're gonna have to hurt for
Speaker 1: us to really that is the thing that's going to
Speaker 1: activate people. And I am struggling with this because I
Speaker 1: do feel I just I feel like, you know what
Speaker 1: y'all got it. This is what the majority of the
Speaker 1: country voted for, or the majority of the voting population
Speaker 1: voted for. Not even that, because he didn't win the
Speaker 1: popular vote. This is what enough of y'all voted for
Speaker 1: that I want you all to feal the brunt the challenge.
Speaker 4: Didn't win the popular vote.
Speaker 1: He didn't win the popular vote. He didn't win the
Speaker 1: popular vote.
Speaker 4: No, Donald Trump, this election didn't win the popular vote.
Speaker 2: Did not win the popular vote.
Speaker 6: He won just win When did I miss?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's never.
Speaker 4: He absolutely won the popular vote.
Speaker 2: No, he did not want the popular vote.
Speaker 1: He has never won the popular vote.
Speaker 6: I am trying to figure out that must change minority
Speaker 6: of the voters.
Speaker 4: Electoral college, but I don't.
Speaker 1: He has never won the popular vote. So my my
Speaker 1: point with that is the people who did want this,
Speaker 1: I'm okay with them getting hurt, you know, like this,
Speaker 1: this is what y'all got, get it. The problem is
Speaker 1: we are going to be hurt first, and we gonna
Speaker 1: be hurt worse. And so I'm trying to figure out
Speaker 1: how to strike that balance. And there are some among
Speaker 1: us even who say, look, a lot of us are disconnected,
Speaker 1: we're despondent, we're not paying attention. Were gonna have to
Speaker 1: feel that pain and that's gonna be the thing that
Speaker 1: activates us. Is there a way to activate people before
Speaker 1: we feel that pain?
Speaker 2: And I know before we have had enough pain to
Speaker 2: last us our parageny and our children's children's children's children.
Speaker 2: Yeah a lifetime. Yeah, so we we've experienced the pain.
Speaker 2: But the truth is is it does in so many
Speaker 2: ways have to travel up our street, down our block,
Speaker 2: up our driveway into the house. In order for us
Speaker 2: to see that this thing is coming apart at the seams.
Speaker 1: We have actually real quick correction from that neg correction.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because you guys we can never be associated with misinformation.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I know y'all is pain from this election.
Speaker 6: I was too, y'all are incorrect, like woefully Donald Trump
Speaker 6: received seventy seven million, three hundred and one, nine hundred
Speaker 6: and ninety seven votes. Kamala Harris received seventy five million,
Speaker 6: seventeen thousand, six hundred and twenty six votes. The election
Speaker 6: total in this election in twenty twenty four was over
Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty five million voters. Donald Trump beat
Speaker 6: Kamala Harris by more than two point three million votes.
Speaker 4: So I was like, I know, I'm not this.
Speaker 2: Way that's corrected. I just I think what I was
Speaker 2: thinking was the twenty twenty what was.
Speaker 4: Elect twenty twenty sixteen, twenty sixteen?
Speaker 2: Sorry no, no, no, twenty twenty and twenty sixteen, how woefully
Speaker 2: underperforming we were as voters as the electorate, so in
Speaker 2: essence being he had less popular vote than the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty or the twenty sixteen, and of course he didn't
Speaker 2: have the popular vote in twenty sixteen, Hillary I.
Speaker 1: Won the popular vote by the smallest margin of any president.
Speaker 1: But yes, you are, we are incorrect. Andrew and I
Speaker 1: were in.
Speaker 4: I was like, wait a minute.
Speaker 2: I was like, I still want to be.
Speaker 4: You can't.
Speaker 6: I'm going to tell you right now, and this might
Speaker 6: I might end up being more misinformation in y'all. I
Speaker 6: still am not gonna miss this man won this election.
Speaker 4: I don't have no proof. I just got a good feeling.
Speaker 1: So there are so many people who feel that way,
Speaker 1: and I that speaks to it though, because it's it's
Speaker 1: almost like you would rather believe that than believe that
Speaker 1: a majority of the people in this country voted for this,
Speaker 1: and I am well.
Speaker 4: And the majority of people didn't.
Speaker 6: And more people stayed at home who are registered, more
Speaker 6: people who are registered stayed at home. So really, what
Speaker 6: we could say is neither one of in one the
Speaker 6: couch did which is the fear of the whole time,
Speaker 6: which is sad. I didn't mean to throw off the
Speaker 6: whole conversation. That's important.
Speaker 1: We should. I want to get to the conversation on
Speaker 1: leaders and we keep we have Leslie backstage waiting, so
Speaker 1: we want to get to her. But I just want
Speaker 1: to say I think I hope our people do not
Speaker 1: have to feel so much pain before being activated. I
Speaker 1: hope we can start paying more attention because I don't
Speaker 1: feel good about letting by watching my people burn. And
Speaker 1: there are people among us who are like, that's what
Speaker 1: it's gonna take because we know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope that that's wrong.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because I hope it's wrong, because I feel like
Speaker 6: our people if we if we stop looking at ourselves
Speaker 6: in the microcosm of the moment, our people have suffered enough. Yes,
Speaker 6: like I'm tired of the suffering. I want us to
Speaker 6: experience abundant joy, not be worried about the scarcity of resources.
Speaker 6: We shouldn't have to keep suffering to prove a point,
Speaker 6: especially a point that we're not the ones trying to make.
Speaker 6: And I think the thing that's so frustrating and yet
Speaker 6: beautiful in this moment is we are forced to come
Speaker 6: to terms with the fact that we are forever inextricably linked.
Speaker 6: Whether we're in the same cultural pocket and the same
Speaker 6: you know, zip code, the same.
Speaker 4: Area code, what have you, we are inextric linked.
Speaker 6: And so it is imperative that we begin to look
Speaker 6: out for our neighbors in the same ways that we
Speaker 6: do for ourselves, whether they are in the highest earning
Speaker 6: bracket or the lowest earning bracket. We are inextricably linked.
Speaker 6: That's just the bottom line. And when do you tend
Speaker 6: with that one group?
Speaker 1: They coming for you too. All these people are saying, oh, well,
Speaker 1: they getting deported.
Speaker 4: Who cares.
Speaker 1: Listen, undocumented immigrants did not vote for this man. They
Speaker 1: cannot vote. They are victims of this system like a
Speaker 1: lot of other people. So I don't have I despite
Speaker 1: paying taxes right right, they are paying classes.
Speaker 2: And their cousins and them who may have voted against them.
Speaker 2: It is not a sentiment unlike many folks who immigrate
Speaker 2: to this country. They pull the ladder up behind them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it's unfortunately. We can dig into that another time,
Speaker 2: because I do think it is worth a deep dive
Speaker 2: on why it is. The sentiment is what it is.
Speaker 2: But the right has created all of this. They want
Speaker 2: to look more right on the right, on the on
Speaker 2: the political rights side.
Speaker 6: I think race has created all of this, because don't forget,
Speaker 6: and I think race has created all of this. I
Speaker 6: would love to blame the right, But unfortunately, even when
Speaker 6: you listen.
Speaker 4: To the rhetoric of our of people that we voted for.
Speaker 6: Around the summertime, the rhetoric started sounding very very conservative
Speaker 6: around the border and around immigration policy.
Speaker 1: There's data behind that, so there was no uptick and
Speaker 1: migrant crime, but the right introduced this, and so as
Speaker 1: a result, members of the media and Democratic candidates mentioned
Speaker 1: the border significantly more. I don't want to give the
Speaker 1: exact percentage, but it was something like eighty percent more
Speaker 1: than they had. So the right is constantly driving the
Speaker 1: narrative and that's a challenge. I know we want to
Speaker 1: bring in Leslie and I want to get to this
Speaker 1: conversation about leaders. I'll just tell you I think the
Speaker 1: leader of the black folks is drum Roll. You gotta
Speaker 1: watch the mini pod to find out.
Speaker 4: Drum Roll. Yeah, you shouldn't let that thing breeze.
Speaker 6: So it was a good team. It was black anyway.
Speaker 1: While while Leslie getting herself together, just give y'all two
Speaker 1: minutes to go and vote for us on NAACP Image Awards.
Speaker 1: You can vote to yes image words dot net. I
Speaker 1: hope that's the right address. But find us and vote
Speaker 1: for us in masks please, and when we come back,
Speaker 1: we will be joined by missus. Leslie Jones.
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right.
Speaker 1: Joining the podcast now is author, comedian and somewhat of
Speaker 1: a social commentator. Leslie Jones, we are to have you
Speaker 1: on this show.
Speaker 3: It's happening in your world.
Speaker 1: I've been seeing you pop up a lot, uh, so
Speaker 1: I know we have a lot to get into you.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. We're happy to
Speaker 1: have you, Susan.
Speaker 2: Welcome home.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. I'm excited. I watch you
Speaker 3: and Angela and Andrew all the time.
Speaker 1: But we appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love your pot. I love your pot.
Speaker 1: We appre you know, we out here trying to do
Speaker 1: what we can in this in this chaos, and it's
Speaker 1: so much happening, Leslie. And what I would have to
Speaker 1: say what I appreciate about you is you have always
Speaker 1: tried to use your platform to either a make people
Speaker 1: laugh or B speak out about something. I love that
Speaker 1: you center women and black women and a lot of
Speaker 1: the things that you do and hold the line for us.
Speaker 1: So we appreciate you for that. I think in this
Speaker 1: time we talked a little bit about what do we do?
Speaker 1: So many people are asking us all the time, what
Speaker 1: do we do? And on the other side, so many
Speaker 1: people are checked out, like they're just like I can't
Speaker 1: it's too much happening. You know, I'm gonna binge something,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stream something which uniquely puts entertainers in a spotlight.
Speaker 1: So I'm curious what you think the role of Black
Speaker 1: Hollywood is in this moment as we're facing assault on
Speaker 1: every front, from our civil rights to our bodily autonomy,
Speaker 1: to our finances to the very infrastructure of the country.
Speaker 1: What do you think the role of Black Hollywood is there?
Speaker 3: Well, first, I feel like we need to realize what's
Speaker 3: happening through each decade or it's that we're using less
Speaker 3: and less percentage of our brain. Like there's no critical thinking,
Speaker 3: there's no like and you get that through reading books
Speaker 3: and Okay, it's hard to kind of say this without
Speaker 3: I don't want to be offensive or whatever.
Speaker 5: But speak the truth.
Speaker 3: We had a crack erar you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: We had There's there's kids that were born of that
Speaker 3: that wasn't raised like us like to have boundaries and
Speaker 3: critical thinking and think about it's we have to think
Speaker 3: about where the mind state of where everybody is, not
Speaker 3: just black people, white people, this society period. We are
Speaker 3: in the complacent stage right now, Like people always ask like,
Speaker 3: what do we do? What do we do. You know
Speaker 3: what we have to do. Everybody knows what we have
Speaker 3: to do. We just too complacent and we've paid for
Speaker 3: our convenience with our democracy. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: We're not. No one's gonna stop watching Netflix, no one's
Speaker 3: gonna stop ordering Amazon. And we could stop smoking cigarettes
Speaker 3: for one week and shut shit down, but no one's
Speaker 3: gonna do that, no one. No one's gonna take responsibility
Speaker 3: for their role and what we have to do until
Speaker 3: they actually take it serious. Because people still are on
Speaker 3: that Oh they can't do that, Oh they can't make
Speaker 3: that happen, but they are making that happen. And we're
Speaker 3: sitting here not understanding that we hold that we hold
Speaker 3: the key in our hand. It's us. Millionaires don't have
Speaker 3: money unless we give them money, you know. And as
Speaker 3: black people, we're one of the biggest consumers of this
Speaker 3: market and we just uneducated. Man Like I'm so, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: It really comes down to whenever I hear anyone say
Speaker 3: that they're racist or or they don't understand, you just
Speaker 3: uneducated because DEI is very simple. No one's saying they're
Speaker 3: lowing expectations. They're saying they're opening it up to everyone,
Speaker 3: not just to white people. And if you think that
Speaker 3: black people or immigrants are taking your jobs, go look
Speaker 3: at the test scores. No, it's your white friend that's
Speaker 3: taken your job. So I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I was gonna ask you.
Speaker 6: So one of the things that that tiff was getting
Speaker 6: at is the role that you see entertainment playing in
Speaker 6: this particular moment.
Speaker 4: We know in our history, whether we're.
Speaker 6: Talking Harry Harry Belafonte to dig Gregory, entertainment entertainers have
Speaker 6: always been an essential part of movement building. And you
Speaker 6: brought up DEI, which for our audience, diversity, equity and inclusion.
Speaker 4: Hollywood was one.
Speaker 6: Of the first industries hit by folks saying you know what,
Speaker 6: we actually are going to retract a little bit on
Speaker 6: this whole DEI thing. So when you think about what
Speaker 6: the requirement is, what is your most reasonable service in
Speaker 6: this time?
Speaker 4: And that would you challengers to do?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I challenge them to when they go on a set,
Speaker 3: which is something I do. How many black people here
Speaker 3: like you know, you know, you're not gonna give me
Speaker 3: favorite nations? That's what they want to use all of
Speaker 3: it because can't no white woman do my hair? I've
Speaker 3: had white hairdressers on set say to me, oh, I
Speaker 3: date a black guy and we have a kid, so
Speaker 3: I know how to do black hair. What I've had
Speaker 3: a makeup artist said to me, Hey, I did Viola
Speaker 3: Davis and Gabrielle, that bitch that has nothing to do
Speaker 3: with me. You need to go and get that tone.
Speaker 3: You need to go get my color tone because I'm
Speaker 3: five shades darker than her and five shades lighter than her.
Speaker 3: So what like? And I'm gonna tell you, you gonna get
Speaker 3: labeled a bitch, but they gonna call you one anyway.
Speaker 3: I me myself. I don't like to look like a
Speaker 3: shiny ass bitch. When I was on SNL, we had
Speaker 3: a light in person that was like, like, put some
Speaker 3: more light, and I would like, put some more light
Speaker 3: on me. This is a dark ass stage. I'm a
Speaker 3: black bitch. Put the light on me. No, And I'm
Speaker 3: very verbal. I'm very verbal. Oh I look shiny. No,
Speaker 3: I look darker than what I am. Are you doing
Speaker 3: that on purpose? Are you trying to make me look dirty?
Speaker 3: Or are you Is there a reason put some light
Speaker 3: on me?
Speaker 8: No.
Speaker 3: I had to learn that shit easy early too, because
Speaker 3: I'm a dark skinned person and if I wear any
Speaker 3: kind of light color, that shit flushes me out. So
Speaker 3: you have to speak up. Some people are scared to
Speaker 3: speak up because again, we in this this industry that's like, oh,
Speaker 3: you know, she's how I have to work with whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm difficult, Yeah, because I'm walking Leslie Jones and I
Speaker 3: This is what people need to understand in this business.
Speaker 3: You are a business, that's right. You are a freelancer.
Speaker 3: When people ask you to work for them, that means
Speaker 3: that you are letting them have your surface is for
Speaker 3: a certain amount of time. In other words, if I
Speaker 3: have some tractors and you had a feel you are
Speaker 3: renting my tractors and you're using them to do your field.
Speaker 3: But mother, those are my tractors, and you know what
Speaker 3: you're not gonna do. You're not gonna mistred and mistreat
Speaker 3: my tractors either. You're gonna take care of them. And
Speaker 3: if you puck up my tractors, you're gonna pay for them.
Speaker 3: Do you get what I'm saying. So when you go
Speaker 3: on set and you see that, man, I say it
Speaker 3: straight up. I already know when somebody can't do my
Speaker 3: makeup as soon as they go to reach for a brush.
Speaker 3: I'll be like, you don't know what you're doing. I
Speaker 3: call my girl, you got you gotta you gotta force
Speaker 3: them to do it, because most people don't and they
Speaker 3: get away with it. But if you say something, they
Speaker 3: can do something. I mean, I mean at least when
Speaker 3: I do it. I don't know about everybody else. But
Speaker 3: when I speak up, Oh I have nappy hair, she
Speaker 3: can't do my hair. So I have a glam team
Speaker 3: and we What I do is I bring my glam
Speaker 3: team in and they're good at what they do, and
Speaker 3: they be good at what they do, and then those
Speaker 3: people go, oh wow, yeah this works better, Oh wow,
Speaker 3: she looks great. Did you get what I'm saying?
Speaker 6: So you hear I hear you saying, Leslie like youz
Speaker 6: I down to the glam and we love you for it.
Speaker 6: DA supports black businesses. I'm sure, Andrew, who is the
Speaker 6: real fam?
Speaker 4: You for the culture?
Speaker 2: No, I'm just sorry. No, I'm love I'm loving that
Speaker 2: you you broke it down like that, and more importantly,
Speaker 2: I'm loving you calling out the fact that your talent
Speaker 2: is a business, what you bring to the table. As
Speaker 2: Jay Z says, I'm a business man, and I wonder
Speaker 2: for you, Leslie, as you have increasingly become I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's become of you always been outspoken, because
Speaker 2: you know, I see you through the television screen and
Speaker 2: the movie theaters. But but I'm wondering, as you speak
Speaker 2: up and speak out in Hollywood, does it cost you? Yeah,
Speaker 2: because I think you you were getting at this. People
Speaker 2: don't want to be put in discomfort. They don't want
Speaker 2: to be inconvenience, which is why we're not choosing to
Speaker 2: boycott certain industries because that would hit too close to home.
Speaker 2: Talk a moment, just about the fact that you're risking
Speaker 2: something if you are well, every time you choose to
Speaker 2: step in the gap.
Speaker 3: I'd rather risk that than the way. I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: older now. Maybe in my twenties and thirties, you know,
Speaker 3: I would have been like, Yo, I'm down for this.
Speaker 3: Let's get this done because I'm trying to be in
Speaker 3: the hustle. But the older I get, the more I
Speaker 3: think about my parents, more I think about my grandmother,
Speaker 3: the more I think about us as a people like
Speaker 3: and as getting older, I just become so into me
Speaker 3: being a black woman. Like I stopped perming my hair
Speaker 3: I started growing my I just didn't realize how beautiful
Speaker 3: black women really are until you really, like after SNL,
Speaker 3: I dug deep into like a black woman's soul, and
Speaker 3: it's so it was always there, you know, it was
Speaker 3: always there. So whenever I'm choosing stuff now, it don't
Speaker 3: don't be like I'm making a choice. It's just like, yo,
Speaker 3: this is what's happening, Like no that I can't do
Speaker 3: this because I feel like this. So, yes, I do
Speaker 3: lose some things, but the good thing that I'm noticing
Speaker 3: is that the people who do know that I'm good,
Speaker 3: and the people do that know what integrity and dignity is,
Speaker 3: they're starting to come back around it at because I'm
Speaker 3: good at what I do. That's why I have to
Speaker 3: be super good at what I do. You I wouldn't
Speaker 3: be able to take a stance if I wasn't funny
Speaker 3: as trust and believe. So that's why we tell everybody
Speaker 3: have some foundation behind your you know't don't be the
Speaker 3: pig with the stick house. Be the pig with the bricks,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, So and be able to
Speaker 3: make more bricks, you know. So, yeah, I do know
Speaker 3: all that we're talking about prices.
Speaker 1: The price right, right. I appreciate that we're also talking
Speaker 1: about this boycott, right, a lot of things the boycott,
Speaker 1: and I think as this administration continues to sow chaos
Speaker 1: and we see the role of the private sector and
Speaker 1: as they fund some of these really Dracronian initiatives, and
Speaker 1: who knows what else is coming down the pike. But
Speaker 1: a lot of us build audience on some of these platforms,
Speaker 1: for example Instagram, Facebook. For some people, you have a
Speaker 1: huge following on Instagram. Yeah, I used to, you know,
Speaker 1: watch your replays when it was about like Game of
Speaker 1: Thrones and all all the things that you do would
Speaker 1: go viral on Instagram. But this is owned by meta
Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg, who's a part we stream content on Amazon.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious how you plan to navigate that space.
Speaker 1: You plan on keeping your Instagram and if you get off,
Speaker 1: like where is there to go? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 3: Well, Well, my thing too also is I'm a business
Speaker 3: person also, like you know, it's I can't I have
Speaker 3: to learn how to navigate a business too, But it
Speaker 3: also has to be what people want to Like, if
Speaker 3: people stop to win Instagram and you know, then I'm
Speaker 3: a fine somewhere else because I was doing that before
Speaker 3: Instagram and before TikTok and before Twitter, I still was
Speaker 3: out there. You know what I'm saying, We I think
Speaker 3: we need to start start like trying to wane off
Speaker 3: that ship because it's not good for us anyway. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like, it's it's just making unnecessary
Speaker 3: people like confamous that are really dangerous. You know. I
Speaker 3: think we're just so into this social media ship that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just feel like if this wasn't around, we would
Speaker 3: still find a way to communicate with each other. I
Speaker 3: think we just have to put a little bit more
Speaker 3: effort into it, and I would find a way. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, now they got substacked, Now they got h
Speaker 3: what is that Patreon? You know? I mean, what.
Speaker 2: Are working on now?
Speaker 1: What is working to find you in? How are going
Speaker 1: to promote it?
Speaker 3: Oh? I'm so many things. Well, people just came out
Speaker 3: with it because you know, we're celebrating the sn L fifty. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so I'm on the cover of that. So I just
Speaker 3: sold the show with Universal, so that's going to be
Speaker 3: coming out. I'm also uh getting ready to do a play.
Speaker 3: Uh my specials coming out. Uh yeah, we got a
Speaker 3: lot of good ship cooking.
Speaker 5: I think she's propriet keeping it down.
Speaker 6: And if and she had a special, she didn't invite
Speaker 6: us to as much as she said, Oh my god, let.
Speaker 3: Me tell you, Let me tell you, let me let
Speaker 3: me tell you, let me tell you what happened.
Speaker 2: So my my special was.
Speaker 3: My special was supposed to be taped in Rancho Cuckamonga.
Speaker 3: So we was about to promote that, right racial Cookamonga
Speaker 3: was like with it. They was like, yo, we're gonna
Speaker 3: pay you twenty five thousand extra for you to mention
Speaker 3: Rancho Cookamonga. And then somebody I guess on the board
Speaker 3: went and looked at my material and they was like,
Speaker 3: oh no, she can't represent Rancho Cuckamonga. So they banned
Speaker 3: me from Rancho wow.
Speaker 4: Yo.
Speaker 3: And then I told him, I said, so it wasn't
Speaker 3: the math that oh it was. It's not it's not
Speaker 3: the it's not the robber reason nothing. That's not what's
Speaker 3: killing Okay, me telling a dick joke, all right?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 3: So, so so what happened we end up when Yeah,
Speaker 3: then we yeah, then we read we had the Rancho. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we had to redo it and we end up doing
Speaker 3: it the night after the election, which was the worst night.
Speaker 3: And I'm telling you nobody, I was like so mad
Speaker 3: because I was like, why did y'all pick that date?
Speaker 3: And niggas like we thought Kamala was gonna win.
Speaker 6: All thought we would have we would have R s
Speaker 6: v P that we were going lest and to celebrate
Speaker 6: with you, and wouldn't shown done with it.
Speaker 2: Before we let you go? So many people before we
Speaker 2: let you go, I have to just before we let go,
Speaker 2: we gotta ask you had referenced your twenty somethings, your
Speaker 2: thirty somethings, if you could turn back and look at that, sister,
Speaker 2: for those of us who are you know, still coming
Speaker 2: up on the rough side of the mountain advice, would
Speaker 2: you give what? What? How would you ease the soul,
Speaker 2: the mind, the heart looking back on your troubles at
Speaker 2: the time and how how you got over You know.
Speaker 3: What's so crazy? First of all, I believe in God.
Speaker 3: I really do believe in a higher power. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I don't know if I believe in
Speaker 3: the God that these people believe in. But when you
Speaker 3: get older, you do start developing a real relationship with
Speaker 3: him because you really do. Like there's times that come
Speaker 3: the way you go, like I had a surgery and
Speaker 3: you know that type of stuff. People die you you know,
Speaker 3: you go on your knees and be like yo, you
Speaker 3: say you there, like are you there? And he has
Speaker 3: proven to me that he's there. So so that for
Speaker 3: me is very important because then you just really hoping
Speaker 3: faith work in together. You know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 3: I would tell young folks, which I whish. I tell
Speaker 3: people all the time if I could quanetum leap to
Speaker 3: myself and say, please don't worry, Like worry is not
Speaker 3: going to help it the situation at all. It's just
Speaker 3: like try to enjoy every stage of your life, like
Speaker 3: enjoy the small apartment, Enjoy the ragley ass car, Enjoy
Speaker 3: the shitty job, enjoy enjoy, enjoy it, like there's so
Speaker 3: many moments in there where you know you having fun.
Speaker 3: I think back when I was broke, and the most
Speaker 3: fun thing I used to do was like I had
Speaker 3: a cup on for l Polo Loko and I would
Speaker 3: go get me some chicken wings. I would give me
Speaker 3: some chicken wings and two chair rows and let me
Speaker 3: tell you something and go home and watch my favorite
Speaker 3: and I'm talking about joy. You have to find the
Speaker 3: little creases because that makes you human. Also disconnect like
Speaker 3: I literally leave my phones now inside another room because
Speaker 3: you have beneath connect. You have to promise you will
Speaker 3: waste most of your life and go outside. Go outside,
Speaker 3: walk in the park, look at the sky, and let
Speaker 3: me tell you something. And I tell young inst this
Speaker 3: all the time. If you do not appreciate where you are,
Speaker 3: you will not be given the next step. Until you appreciate,
Speaker 3: you will not graduate. That's just it.
Speaker 2: That's a word.
Speaker 1: You made me think of something. Andrew. This is gonna
Speaker 1: be our last question because I know we overtime and
Speaker 1: Leslie gotta go, but just really, before we let you go.
Speaker 1: You you work with a lot of other comedians, but
Speaker 1: also white women comedians, and I know we have talked
Speaker 1: about on this show, and I've been struggling with this
Speaker 1: question of the role of white women in our politics,
Speaker 1: and so my attitude is kind of like, y'all, y'all
Speaker 1: got it, y'all, y'all work it out amongst yourselves. I
Speaker 1: can't do it. But when you're in those spaces, Leslie
Speaker 1: as the sole black woman in an ensemble cast or
Speaker 1: on a show like SNL. Do you get into those
Speaker 1: conversations and what would you say to white women who
Speaker 1: are complaining about it? And maybe they voted right, but
Speaker 1: they grandma voted for Trump, or maybe they group chat
Speaker 1: voted for Trump, or the assignment was to bring along
Speaker 1: your friends. How do you respond to them in this
Speaker 1: moment right now?
Speaker 3: Girl? Girl, do you know how much trouble I used
Speaker 3: to get into. I used to get into so much
Speaker 3: trouble because they would do things and I'd be like,
Speaker 3: that's racist, Like I'm that person. I'd be like, Noah,
Speaker 3: that's racist, or a microaggression, like that's racist? What you
Speaker 3: mean by that? Liken' I don't give about calling a
Speaker 3: bit chy'at because like you, you can't fight me. So
Speaker 3: let's let's go like what did you mean by that?
Speaker 3: But what did you mean by that? But what did
Speaker 3: you mean by that? But like no, And then a
Speaker 3: lot of white women do say things because they think
Speaker 3: that they're like, oh, I love when they say, well,
Speaker 3: I don't see color, and I'll be like, yes you do, bitch,
Speaker 3: I said you see colors because your outfit is coordinated, right,
Speaker 3: And let me tell you something. You're gonna see my color, bitch,
Speaker 3: because I'm a beautiful black alabast and if you don't
Speaker 3: see my tall then we have a motherfucking problem. So
Speaker 3: you gotta check them. Like the there's club owners that
Speaker 3: own that are trumpers, and you gotta check them. You
Speaker 3: gotta check them. You're wrong, You're freaking wrong, You're faking wrong.
Speaker 3: There's a club that I don't go to because I'm not.
Speaker 3: I don't do this. I don't. You don't get to
Speaker 3: have me. And then both the other way, you don't
Speaker 3: get to have me, and then tell me that I
Speaker 3: don't I'm a three fists of a person, or that
Speaker 3: I can't take care of my body, or I can't
Speaker 3: get the same pay as you. Now the fucking pay
Speaker 3: is the motherfucking pay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and and.
Speaker 3: And so I get in trouble all the time, son,
Speaker 3: Trust I get in trouble all the time. And oh
Speaker 3: especially the white men. Because let me tell you something
Speaker 3: about white men, and I don't I'm gonna say this,
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna be dumb, but I know every black
Speaker 3: woman will feel this. You need to understand that white
Speaker 3: men have a different type of fear for black women
Speaker 3: because they was on the tit of our ancestors. We
Speaker 3: raised them, we're their discipline when we talk to a
Speaker 3: white man. Have you ever just really honestly talked to
Speaker 3: a white man and you could see him turning inside
Speaker 3: because because they know we right, we we your mammy,
Speaker 3: We your mammy. I took a switch to you. I
Speaker 3: took a switch to your great granddaddy, like real talk,
Speaker 3: like there's that connection there, it really is. And I
Speaker 3: think that's their biggest fear is that if we get
Speaker 3: in control, that we're gonna do the same thing that
Speaker 3: they did. But we we don't feel that way. We
Speaker 3: are nurturing and race. And this is another thing. We
Speaker 3: don't want to erase them. They want to erase us.
Speaker 3: That's the problem. We We know you want to go
Speaker 3: ahead and survive, but leave.
Speaker 1: Us alone, right, leave us alone? Well, an, that's say
Speaker 1: the new name of the show, color.
Speaker 2: Coordinated.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't, leslie, We appreciate you do.
Speaker 1: Appreciation, No, we appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Well, I think we got our marching orders, y'all by
Speaker 2: the marsh will break.
Speaker 12: Welcome, Welcome, welcome, welcome.
Speaker 2: Welcome, welcome, y'all, Is that time past the collection played,
Speaker 2: Leslie dropped it because it was hot. Oh and now
Speaker 2: and now we need our ct as to take us
Speaker 2: on out of here minus simple lumbo double down on Tiff.
Speaker 2: These previous comment about going and voting, please not because
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Speaker 2: deserve it.
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