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Speaker 2: gonna be hard to argue that Darren Till won fans

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Speaker 2: question four from sports Guru four thousand, who should Till

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Speaker 2: fight next? Great question? So if we examine the rankings,

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Speaker 2: you could do the winner of Shabasian and Brunson. That'd

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Speaker 2: That's not exactly who Whitaker is. What Aker is a

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Speaker 2: sufficiently different, all right. From Sean Kelly eighty eight. Looking

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Speaker 2: much keener sense of who he is. All right From

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Speaker 2: sixth arms. Did Whitaker's post Romero Wars burn out contribute

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Speaker 2: at all to his loss against Izzy. If so, would

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Speaker 2: You know, Till was probably doing the right thing to

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Speaker 2: won't always be available to you, but it's a thing

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Speaker 2: that you want. But the big key is you got

426
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 2: to get when you spin for an arm bar, potentially

427
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 2: if you're coming from mount or underneath or whatever, you

428
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 2: got to make sure you have maximum pressure over their

429
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,360
Speaker 2: face with your leg because that will prevent them from

430
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 2: sitting up. And you'll see that he made that switch

431
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 2: at the last second and then sealed the top foot

432
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 2: with his outside foot, which put Gustafson back down again.

433
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 2: And at that point, you know, if you roll over

434
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 2: and the other guy has good control over your face,

435
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 2: his ham strings are tight, his knees are pinched together,

436
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 2: and all you have is a gable grip, it's basically

437
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 2: over for you at that point. I keep making this point, man,

438
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 2: I don't know how this is even debatable. Verdoom is

439
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 2: by a mile the best heavyweight submission oriented MME fighter

440
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 2: I've ever seen, uh anywhere in MMA. And yes, there

441
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 2: are some other ones that are worthy of great respect,

442
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 2: Frank Meir, Josh Barnett, no Ghara, you might want to

443
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 2: pick some other ones beyond that. Fine, they're all worthy

444
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 2: of absolute respect too, But Verdoom is better than all

445
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 2: of them. Redoom won titles in jiu jitsu at the

446
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 2: highest level. In a gee he won it at the

447
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 2: highest level with nogi and then inside Mma has subbed

448
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 2: Caine Velasquez, he subbed no Garap rather easily, by the way,

449
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 2: and then subbed fatal Or from his guard. Like. It's

450
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 2: not even close in terms of how good he is. Yes,

451
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 2: the arm bar that Noghara had on crocop is nice.

452
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 2: The guillotine of Tim Silvia have to get and beat

453
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 2: his nice. Frank Meir beating no Ghara twice was was

454
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 2: pretty great. His his guillotine of Chikongo was good. Breaking

455
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 2: the arm of Tim Sylvia was pretty neat, Okay. Josh

456
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 2: Barnett has had a million of these two. There's been

457
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 2: a lot of really great ones to come along. Dude,

458
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 2: Nobody has the overall resume this guy has. Nobody has

459
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 2: the overall sophistication of skill that he has, and he

460
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 2: has it with a lot of different things from the back,

461
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,479
Speaker 2: from you know, taking mount on brandon Vera, whether it's chokes,

462
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 2: whether it's arm bars, He's got total mastery, whether it's

463
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: from the guard, whether it's a triangle, all of it,

464
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 2: it's effortless. He had one of these jiu jitsu games

465
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Speaker 2: where he could win in the gee, then he could

466
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 2: win in nogi, then he could take it to mma,

467
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: and he's perfectly effective. Dude, he is just the king

468
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 2: at heavyweight when it comes to submissions. There's nobody even

469
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 2: close to his level. He has run away with the

470
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: title and the little intricate details that he shows that

471
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: sometimes go missing if you don't really pay attention, and

472
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 2: that's true for all of us. Just sort of tell

473
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 2: you there's a level of sophistication to what he's doing

474
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 2: in improv improv and you know, I mean he's out

475
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 2: there playing jazz on these fools and people are talking

476
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 2: about Yeah, but Nogara had that nice arm bar back

477
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 2: in the aughts over crow Cop. It's like it's not

478
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 2: even remotely the same level of achievement. It's much harder

479
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 2: to sub guys now than it was then. And that's

480
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 2: that's not to say that's not very special in its

481
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 2: own right, because that was where the game was at

482
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 2: the time. Fair you know, and then of course for

483
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 2: Nogeret to beat Bob Sap amazing, amazing. All these things

484
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 2: are amazing, but there is one king of that hill

485
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 2: at heavyweight when it comes to being like the best

486
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 2: sort of submission orient at heavyweight, and it's and it's

487
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 2: verdoom and it's not it's not close, okay? From J. G.

488
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 2: Rivera twelve. What organization does Verdom have the best chance

489
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 2: to win a title? End? I feel he could make

490
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 2: a run in the UFC, especially of DC and steep

491
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 2: A our plans to retire after their next fight. Somewhere

492
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Speaker 2: outside of UFC, Bellatore, he could maybe get a match

493
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 2: against fad or one, you know, someplace other than UFC

494
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 2: where he still is very good and can maybe win

495
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 2: a title and be very He's more valuable to somebody

496
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 2: else than he is to UFC at this point anyway,

497
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: so it's better to maximize that value, all right. From

498
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 2: Pum Pumba Daddies, that's a real name. Does Alex Gustafson

499
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: bite the itty bitty titty and fix the music like

500
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 2: Milly and Vanilli and advance one way or the other,

501
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: or does he hit the spliff and call it quits.

502
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 2: It's a great question. I don't know what to make

503
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 2: of what happened over the weekend. Like he came in

504
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 2: at two forty, and I was like, less than ideal,

505
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 2: but he didn't look bad on the feet for as

506
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: lung as it lasted. And with verdoom on your back

507
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 2: like a world champion like that, it's gonna go poorly

508
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 2: for you. I don't know. I don't know. I didn't

509
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 2: I was hoping to, Like I even tweeted before the fight,

510
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,239
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't even know what to make

511
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: of this dude at two hundred and forty pounds. Is

512
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 2: he gonna be good? Is he gonna be bad? What

513
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 2: the hell's he gonna be? I don't give him another try, right,

514
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 2: it can't hurt. You can sort of write off what happened.

515
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 2: But it wasn't like a confidence inspiring performance. I could

516
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 2: say that. So I think he probably keeps going, but

517
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: who knows on what level? From Miguli Barra thirty nine.

518
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 2: With many light heavyweights being unsuccessful heavyweight recently, Gus Valante

519
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: osp does this discourage and eventual move up for John Jones.

520
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 2: So I had thought that the opposite if it happened.

521
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 2: I thought, if Gus had gone up and done well,

522
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 2: that John would have been like, wait a second, you

523
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: got DC. He went up there and became a champ champ,

524
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 2: and now you got Gus going up there and he's

525
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: kicking ass again. Assuming that had happened, you know, was

526
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: John really going to look around and be like, Wow,

527
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 2: these guys having success does nothing to motivate me. I

528
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: didn't believe that, and yet now the opposite has mostly happened.

529
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: D C notwithstanding, wouldn't that equally discourage him? It certainly

530
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: doesn't move the needle for him. You know, if DC

531
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: winning in the way that he did didn't move the

532
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: needle for him, and now everyone else losing is the

533
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: compliment to DC's effort, it's not going to push him

534
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: any further along. Certainly does it discourage him, Like, does

535
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: he think his chances are even worse? I think as

536
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 2: long as he thinks d C was a champion, I

537
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: can be a champion. Probably still holds. He probably still

538
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: likes his chances. But what I was hoping was that

539
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 2: Gus would go and win. Not that anything against for doom,

540
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 2: but I was hoping Gus would go and win, and

541
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 2: then that would pull John Jones out of his sabbatical.

542
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: But it wasn't to be. From Paul M cuomo, what's

543
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 2: more problematic, Dan Hardy breaking his professional conduct for someone

544
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 2: he personally knows in life. I think he's overseen training

545
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 2: rooms with Jai. Might be wrong on that, or that

546
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: Herb Dean sees a man go completely stiff for a

547
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 2: period of seconds and doesn't think it's a bad stoppage. Okay,

548
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: let's get to this. Shalle to me, this is honestly

549
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: one of the biggest stories coming out of the weekend. Okay,

550
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 2: what do we want to say about this? Here's the

551
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: first thing I would like to say that I think, really,

552
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: I don't think you can go any further in this

553
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: conversation without acknowledging this. Every time somebody in MMA, usually

554
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: a fighter, sometimes a former fighter turned commentator, says something

555
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: really bad about an efficiant, there's a common refrain from

556
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: everybody else, and the refrain is that it was unprofessional.

557
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 2: Let me give you an example. Flashback to Florida. Dom

558
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 2: Cruse doesn't like the stoppage from Keith Peterson and said

559
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 2: the guy smelled like cigarettes and alcohol. Now is that true?

560
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: Probably not. I mean, Dom's probably just very upset. I

561
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: don't know. I can't say for certain, but Okay, what

562
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 2: did you notice from people at the time in condemning

563
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: dom Cruise, that's a really unfair character assassination and he

564
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: shouldn't say things like that. I understand that. I'm not

565
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: here to defend Dominict Cruz saying Keith Peterson smells like

566
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: cigarettes and booze. I'm not here to defend Dan Hardy

567
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 2: taking time out of the broadcast to yell because if

568
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 2: you guys saw what he had said later perb Den

569
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: on Instagram. When you have a sort of a small

570
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: arena like this where there are essentially no fans and

571
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 2: you hear stop the fight, it can be confusing and

572
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: somewhat of an issue because it could be someone's corner

573
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: yelling that, or the doctor and he doesn't know in

574
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: real time who's yelling it. Now it appears to not

575
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: have an effect because he didn't act on it, but

576
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: still it's a fair concern. I don't think there's any

577
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: problem with that. I'm not defending dominic Cruz's actions there,

578
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 2: per se. I am not defending Dan Hardy's actions on

579
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 2: Saturday Night. Per se. Here's what I am going to

580
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: say as a conversation starter to all of this. If

581
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 2: commissions want less of this kind of thing, right, if

582
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 2: they want scenarios where referees or other officiants, judges or

583
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: whoever don't get dragged through the mud, perhaps quite unfairly,

584
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: maybe not so much in this situation, but others. Then

585
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: you have to stop shielding yourselves from every single form

586
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: of accountability and public scrutiny. If you are a fighter

587
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 2: and you believe you have been done wrong by the referee,

588
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,959
Speaker 2: what recourse do you have? The answer is basically none,

589
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 2: because most commissions have rigged the rules to say where

590
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: you know, it's almost like those these stupid ass laws

591
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 2: that allow people to pull guns and murder their own neighbors?

592
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: Did you feel threatened? To mean, whether or not the

593
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: situation was actually threatening is irrelevant. How did you feel

594
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: they do the same thing to the referees. What did

595
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: you feel like you were acting in you're the fighter's

596
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 2: best interest? How did you think that he was going out?

597
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 2: Whether or not that the occupational competency is in play

598
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 2: here or not is irrelevant, And so you have no recourse.

599
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 2: If you are a fighter, you get no recourse with

600
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 2: UFC other than whatever leverage in the marketplace you can

601
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 2: pull together, which is very little. You have no say

602
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: over sponsors. Maybe the media is not fair to you,

603
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: and you have absolutely no ability to control your destiny

604
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: with the commission other than to geniflect before them. Ladies

605
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: and gentlemen, if people lash out at commissions who have

606
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 2: spent the entirety of their existence not making themselves accountable

607
00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 2: to the public, not making themselves available with transparency, you

608
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: just had this past week before Nevada no longer disclosing

609
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 2: any kind of person information for MMA or boxing, which

610
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: do you think for a fucking second has anything to

611
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: do with serving the fighter's interests Due they get screwed

612
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 2: every which way, and in particular by the commissions, where

613
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 2: they can try to ban you for life. If you're

614
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 2: Nick Diaz smoking weed, only the public pressure brings it

615
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 2: down to like this exorbitant sentence where it was five

616
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: years right and then even further public scrutiny was the

617
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 2: only thing. The only thing that saved you was outrage.

618
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 2: If you're Nick Diaz, the only thing that saved you

619
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: was outrage. Well, no wonder people resort to outrage. It

620
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: doesn't mean it's right. It doesn't mean you could be like, yes, well,

621
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: outrage is certainly a valid mechanism by which we can

622
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 2: just let things happen. You can't just allow people to

623
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 2: do those kind things. But hello, ladies and gentlemen, this

624
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: is not a hard problem to diagnose. Herb Dean took

625
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 2: the time to go to Instagram and explain himself, and

626
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 2: whether you like it or not, he at least had

627
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 2: the willingness to do that. But he didn't have to

628
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 2: do that, and most don't. And you think these and

629
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 2: this is, by the way, there's no commission in this

630
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 2: particular case that since they're self regulating. But you think

631
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: Nevada is going to do anything if you believe Herb

632
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: Dean to being the wrong, you think they're gonna do

633
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: anything to like censure him reevaluate his training. Right, No,

634
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 2: they're not gonna do shit. They're not going to do anything.

635
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: These commissions have absolutely rigged the system in such a

636
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 2: way as to never be accountable for failure, never be

637
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: accountable for questioning, never be accountable for transparency. And so people,

638
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 2: after years and years and years and years of dealing

639
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,720
Speaker 2: with this, some of them fighters, some of them managers,

640
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 2: some of them trainers, some of them former fighters, turn coach,

641
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 2: some of them just observers, the only recourse left to

642
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 2: you is lashing out. That's it. That's what else can

643
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 2: you do. There's no official mechanism by which you can

644
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 2: go and lobby your concerns, or you can show up

645
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: to a meeting and that the end h in Nevada.

646
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: You can say what you want. They're gonna tell you

647
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: to go fuck yourself. They don't care. They're not gonna

648
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: listen to you. Listen, you know you don't matter to them.

649
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 2: This is it. This is the only way people have

650
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: to affect change. It should not be this way. It

651
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: should not be a system by where your only means

652
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: of getting any kind of productive development around a problem

653
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 2: is to be unprofessional. And yet that is exactly what

654
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: we have. So if you want to say Dan Hardy

655
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: acted out in a way that was irresponsible, I won't

656
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 2: fight you on it. I will not fight you. If

657
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: you want to say Dominica Cruz should not be assassinating

658
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: someone's character like that just because he didn't like the decision,

659
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: I will not fight you on it because I can't

660
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: defend them in and of themselves. But you had better

661
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: take a long look at the system here and recognize

662
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 2: that if you want to blame these actors, you better

663
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 2: look around and realize they are only responding to the

664
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 2: incentives laid out in front of them, which is they

665
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 2: have no other way of affecting change. Oh, it's not

666
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 2: Dan Hardy's responsibility to say anything. Yeah, maybe it's not,

667
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: and maybe it's not. But who else is going to

668
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 2: say something? Right? This is a self regulated thing. You

669
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 2: think Mark Ratter's gonna go in there and give him

670
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: a piece of his mind. Mark Radder's one of the

671
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 2: nicest guys on earth, and I think really believes in

672
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,919
Speaker 2: the competency of the people that they hired. You think, again,

673
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: I'm not suggesting to you that I uh not weighing

674
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: in on Herb's choice here because I think there's something

675
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 2: that really is involved here. You think that there are

676
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 2: any professional consequences to this? None? None. This will just

677
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: keep happening. The only thing that commissions respond to is

678
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 2: public scandal. That is it. That is it. And if

679
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 2: you don't want it to be that way because you

680
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: don't think it's appropriate for these other actors in the

681
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: space to be saying the things that they're saying, fine,

682
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: which you better be advocating for. On the other end,

683
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 2: is a mechanism by which these things can be addressed,

684
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: because so long as your argument is well they shouldn't

685
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: be doing that, you are only addressing half the problem

686
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: and you are not diagnosing where these symptoms come from.

687
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 2: They come from the fact that fighters get fucked six

688
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 2: ways to Sunday by every power broker in this sport.

689
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 2: That is just a fact. That is a fact, that

690
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: is an absolute fact, that is not up for debate.

691
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 2: Anybody who has power in this industry uses it to

692
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: fuck fighters. So the sooner you just burn that into

693
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 2: your consciousness and understand that, the easier all this becomes

694
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 2: to diagnose as a problem. Now, what do we make here.

695
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 2: I'll go to the next question and I'll use this one.

696
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 2: You know, actually A fifteen was PD World ninety nine.

697
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: Just how much has Herb Dean fallen from grace? I

698
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: don't know how to answer that question for you. I

699
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: see a lot of people say, well, Herb Dean's fallen

700
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 2: off and it's been real bad. And yes, I can

701
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 2: point to a couple of these stoppages that have been

702
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 2: not great. I did not like the one over the weekend,

703
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 2: and I did not like the one the Cebe Dollaway

704
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 2: one against the Russian guy. I forget it was a

705
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: similar situation was Paul Felder and Dan Hardy's screaming at

706
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 2: Herb Dean to stop the fight. And then you had

707
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: Ceebe Dollaway come out afterwards and be like, you know

708
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: that dude, I don't know what he's doing. On the

709
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: other hand, you should know that there's been times where

710
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: I have questioned some of herb stoppages. He's called me

711
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 2: personally to explain them, and I got a better understanding afterwards.

712
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: Number one. Number two, when we say a referee has

713
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: now fallen from grace, right, so we are saying that

714
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: there was good performance or at least a high stature,

715
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 2: and that we are now at a lower place. By

716
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 2: what measurement are we using. I'm not here to say

717
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 2: that it's not a correct argument. What I mean to

718
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 2: say is I put out a tweet over the weekend.

719
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, if you were sort of

720
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 2: in control of all of this, and you had a

721
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: way to assess referee performance and make a call about it,

722
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: what are the specific mechanisms and criteria you would change

723
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: or put in place or whatever to make a call.

724
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: Here's what I'm saying. How many calls are too bad

725
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: to the point where you have to then remove somebody

726
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: or demote them, like do we have a number, Like

727
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: what are we looking for? What kind of how bad

728
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: do they have to be? Do they have to like

729
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 2: intervene too early, intervene too late, a little bit of both.

730
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 2: What you end up finding is that again, the commissions

731
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 2: just have latitude. They just kind of wait until enough happens,

732
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: usually through public scandal. In the case of Steve Masagatti,

733
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: you know, the number one promoter in the sport sort

734
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 2: of railing again against him was enough over time to

735
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 2: get them to bend. But the point being is they

736
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 2: just have the latitude to say whenever they feel like

737
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 2: it's been enough. We don't have to my understanding, any

738
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 2: kind of formal review process related to the accumulation of

739
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: individual incidents that let us know, you know, some kind

740
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 2: of further review is warranted, and that review should result

741
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 2: in either sanction or re education or no fault, you know,

742
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 2: whatever the various things can come from that. There is,

743
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 2: as again no formal process by which to decide to

744
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: So when people say, oh, he's had a bunch of these,

745
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 2: my response is, okay, maybe he has how many he's

746
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 2: supposed to have before. We're concerned, and I'm not saying

747
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 2: he's had too many or too little. This would go

748
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: for any referee. What is the process by which you

749
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 2: decide performance has declined? What is the process by which

750
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 2: you do something about it? To my knowledge, there is none.

751
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: There might be some internal reviews, but there is nothing

752
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 2: in terms of the public can look at as a

753
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 2: grading system, as some kind of scoring, you know, for

754
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: occupational competency that they can review. There's no thiss, just

755
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: what the commissioner wants to do. And then at least

756
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 2: the other one here from pac Underscore Attack fifty five.

757
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 2: Did you watch Herb's post on Instagram? And if so,

758
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: he makes valid points on why he gets tricky when

759
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: someone yell stop the fight if it's not the sports

760
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 2: physician or cornering your thoughts. I thought that was a

761
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 2: very perfectly reasonable response to the critique. The part about

762
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 2: this that I don't understand. Here's where I'm at on

763
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 2: this one. I don't think Herb's a bad guy. That's

764
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 2: not the same to say, you know, lots of people

765
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 2: aren't bad guys who should not be referees. But okay,

766
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: hold on a second, here, let's let's le's break this

767
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 2: down piece by piece. If you watch HERBS video, he

768
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: makes a point there about like anybody just yelling stop

769
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: the fight is not helpful in a situation like this.

770
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: Fair point. I don't know how you can really argue

771
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 2: with that. The other point that he makes, though, is

772
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 2: that he was there above Herbert looking down and he

773
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: could see Herbert was making judgments about how to respond

774
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 2: to the various threats from Trinaldo. That part I don't understand.

775
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: He gets dropped and falls like a mannequin with a

776
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 2: left hand boom, head hits the canvas. He kind of like,

777
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 2: I won't say, I'm not gonna say he seizures. That's

778
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 2: not quite right. But he kind of gets to this

779
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 2: sort of like naturally defensive position. And then Tronaldo walks

780
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: over and looks down at him, fist in the air,

781
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 2: ready to throw, and Herbert doesn't move. Herbert didn't push

782
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 2: off the legs. Herbert didn't roll to turtle. Herbert didn't,

783
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 2: you know, try and go for a takedown. He just

784
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 2: didn't move. And then you'll notice Toronaldo drills him and

785
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 2: eventually just holds his hand and hits him a couple

786
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: more times, it's like, I don't buy that he was

787
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: all there. The question you have to ask yourself is

788
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 2: did it look like if you are literally on top

789
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 2: of Herbert looking down, did it look like from that

790
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 2: vantage point that Herbert was there? And the answer is,

791
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 2: we don't really know. We're not in that we can't

792
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 2: replicate what Dean sees. I think it's partly why they

793
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 2: should have, like like arresting officers, they should have bodycams

794
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 2: or refcams of some kind. I want to get a

795
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 2: closer look at what he saw. And even that won't

796
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 2: always help you, but I bet you gets you a

797
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: lot closer. So to me, it's like if someone comes

798
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,479
Speaker 2: over and holds a fist like this and they don't

799
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: scramble or move or do anything. The first shot goes

800
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: in unobstructed, right through your hands, like it'd be one

801
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,439
Speaker 2: thing if you just didn't move, and then the shot

802
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 2: comes in and then you didn't, you know, pull your

803
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: hands closer to your face or roll or squint. He doesn't,

804
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 2: he just he just eats it. And then Toronaldo grabs

805
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 2: one hand and then fires the rest from the left,

806
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 2: no resistance. I don't know. It's hard for me to

807
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 2: believe that he was all there. Did he look all there?

808
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: From Herb's vantage point is simply an unknowable to this point.

809
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: But that's where I come down. It's like, I've never

810
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 2: seen a fighter do that. If you get threatened like this,

811
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 2: they take action. And if you're not controlling their body,

812
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 2: no one's controlling his hips, No one's controlling his That's

813
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: what neon belly is. You're controlling their hips, that's what

814
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 2: cross facing is. You're controlling their head and neck, no

815
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 2: control whatsoever, none, just standing over him first shot, unobstructed.

816
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 2: I have a very difficult time believing he was all there.

817
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 2: By the way, this came a little bit earlier. This

818
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: comes with from YouTube from Paul zero one three to two.

819
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: Do you feel that the event time had an effect

820
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: on the judging and officiating? If it had an effect

821
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 2: on the fighting, and it had an effect on on

822
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: the commentating, which I think that it did, How does

823
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 2: it not have an effect elsewhere? Maybe not so pronounced

824
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: an effect that the wrong person one or something. The

825
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 2: question is how much of an effect? But do I

826
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: think it had one? There's just no doubt in my mind,

827
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 2: There's no doubt in my mind it had one also

828
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: from YouTube from David Johnson. Has Fight Island been a

829
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 2: subtle way for the UFC to usher in the next

830
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: generation without being overshadowed by the current elite? And who

831
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: the new breed has impressed you most. We'll get to

832
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: that in just a second. Obviously Hamsaut Chimaya was the

833
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: guy who was the big standout from that. Going back

834
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 2: to Instagram here at Stingray at this point, why aren't

835
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 2: the broadcast team in a soundproof booth samar on site

836
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 2: instead of cage side. It's clear that the fighters can

837
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 2: hear them, and if the potential to influence a fight

838
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 2: is present, why not remove it. It feels like, if

839
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 2: you're gonna have them off site, why are they traveling

840
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: to Abu Dhabi to begin with? Like, if you guys

841
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: watch being in sport, you know I watched obviously I

842
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 2: watch a lot of the League. I watched Real Madrid.

843
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 2: You know, the Ray Hudson and Phil Shane are not

844
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 2: at the Burna bay U or you know, Lea Fabrica.

845
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: They're They're in Miami. They're in the studios there. They're

846
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 2: just calling the fights from there, which is you know,

847
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: I think I think like hd NET did that for Yearanoka.

848
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: I remember that when fad Or fought Holkman CHOI, so

849
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 2: what happens? I think they would just rather than be there,

850
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: you know, you'd rather have commentators who can react to

851
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 2: what they hear and see and feel inside the arena

852
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 2: From Jonah Griff underscore. Dan Hardy verbally confronting Herb Dean

853
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: mid broadcast was very reminiscent of Luke and Bryan criticizing

854
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 2: Jay for his actions during the show. So is Jay

855
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 2: like the Herb Dean of Morning Combat? Jay? Are you

856
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: the kind of guy that's gonna get other production people

857
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: killed on the show? Only behind the scenes? Herb Dean,

858
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 2: he also has like one hundred and fifty pounds on me.

859
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: So I don't know. Yeah, I don't know how much

860
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 2: I like that analogy either. No, Jay is more like

861
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: Herb doing Uh. I don't know. I'm not sure who

862
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 2: Jay is. I have to think about that a little

863
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 2: bit more. I have to get I bet Brian has

864
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 2: a better answer for that. All right, let's go to Red, White,

865
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,439
Speaker 2: and Blue. Luke biggest concerns with Fight Island referee judging,

866
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 2: no commission or COVID safety, COVID safety. God, you gotta

867
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 2: see what's happening with Major League Baseball. What a fucking

868
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,479
Speaker 2: nightmare that is. Season is not even a week old,

869
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 2: not even started on Thursday, Natz Yankees home opener, and

870
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 2: it's and it's already they had to cancel games and

871
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 2: two teams absolutely filled to the brim with COVID. What

872
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 2: a nightmare. I mean, here's here's what we're learning now.

873
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: I think if you do what promoters are doing in

874
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 2: combat sports, so UFC, top rank, Bellator, obviously some of

875
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 2: the various properties, PBC working with time, right, or you

876
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 2: do what NBA is doing, which is that on a

877
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 2: larger scale, which is a bubble. If you do a bubble,

878
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 2: you might have a chance because that's a lot to manage,

879
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 2: but it looks like it can be done on the

880
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 2: NBA season hasn't started until July thirtieth, so we've got

881
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 2: three more days. But you're at least on your way

882
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 2: at that point, right. And I know we had the

883
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 2: dude going to the my man had to go see

884
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 2: some titties. Who was the guy Jay that went to

885
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 2: the strip club, who went to the Gentleman's Club? What

886
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 2: was his name? It wasn't Patrick Beverley was it was

887
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 2: somebody else. I forget the guy's name. Who was it?

888
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 2: Do you remember? I'll get it for you. Hang on, Okay,

889
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 2: he had to go and now. But the thing is

890
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 2: they called Williams. Who Lou Williams. Lou Williams, that's right.

891
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 2: So they made him quarantine now for ten days. Look

892
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 2: at what NHL is doing. NHL has two cities that

893
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 2: they're doing like hub activities from and both are in Canada,

894
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 2: which hello is a country. It's done a much better job.

895
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 2: You've got to put things in a bubble. It appears

896
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 2: otherwise this is not controllable. So I don't know what

897
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 2: they're gonna do with NFL football because, by the way,

898
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 2: you can say what you want about NBA contracts. Maybe

899
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 2: this works or a doesn't, but they're guaranteed. Most of

900
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 2: your football contracts are not guaranteed, so you don't play,

901
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 2: you don't get paid. I don't know what they're gonna do.

902
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 2: I really don't know what they're gonna do. U. But

903
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 2: the biggest concerns with fight island referee, judging, commission, no commission,

904
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 2: COVID safety. Probably the judging all right, dB Underscore Scott

905
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 2: Underscore Outlaw Shogun has won five of his past seven

906
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 2: fights now talking about retiring. Even though he wouldn't be

907
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 2: going out on top. If he hung off the gloves today,

908
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 2: his exit would be more graceful than many of his

909
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 2: peers from that era. Right, Yes, he still is winning,

910
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 2: but God, did y'all not look at that and just think?

911
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 2: I mean, here's the problem with everyone's argument about Showgun.

912
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 2: They're always like, dude, Showgun looks so good or rather

913
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 2: not so much that rather, that's not quite true. But

914
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 2: what they'll say is this, he keeps winning. Are you

915
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 2: under the impression that we should give a fuck? The

916
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 2: argument is not that he is winning or he is losing. Yes,

917
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 2: sometimes it becomes so bad that they can't win for shit,

918
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 2: and then you really have to intervene like a Bjpenn.

919
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 2: The issue is, and I suspect as brain trauma studies

920
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 2: develop and we can get a keener sense of it

921
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,439
Speaker 2: while someone is alive. I mean, how do you go

922
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 2: around thinking that Showgun hasn't taken too much brain damage?

923
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 2: I mean, just go and look through his career. Forget

924
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 2: all the gym wars. I mean, this guy trained in

925
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 2: a gym that was known for its gym wars. Back

926
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 2: in courtA at Cheba, Brazil shoots a box. Okay, he

927
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 2: has probably taken an extraordinary amount of trauma to his brain.

928
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 2: Little nog too. I don't know how you can look

929
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: at that and think otherwise. So to me, it's like, okay,

930
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 2: can he win despite that? Yeah? Seems like he can.

931
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 2: Is it a good idea to keep going? Probably?

932
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: Not.

933
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 2: I loved this question from Colin Cunningham. What do you

934
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 2: want to see next? From Hamzat or Comzot Chamayev. I

935
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 2: see a lot of people suggesting ranked opponents, But after

936
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 2: just two UFC fights, do you think it's justified that

937
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 2: he gets one next? No, not necessarily, although if you

938
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 2: did at the very end, like fourteen or fifteen, I mean,

939
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 2: no one more so than that. Here's why I'm not

940
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,720
Speaker 2: even saying he can't beat them. That's not the argument.

941
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 2: If you want to, you can go and look up

942
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 2: neither excuse me either all or at a bare minimum.

943
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 2: Most I did it yesterday. Most of Hamzat Chamayev's fights

944
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 2: before he got to the UFC. Most of them, I think,

945
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 2: if not all of them, are in brave and you

946
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: can watch his development. So I watched his fight. I

947
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: watched his third, fourth, fifth, and sixth fights, and you

948
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 2: can see how he's getting better. One, you can see

949
00:52:55,760 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 2: how the comparisons to Kobebe are a little bit overstated. One.

950
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 2: I think he has much more power on the feet

951
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 2: than Kabeeb, much more. He's dropped multiple opponents with his punches,

952
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 2: and he seems to do it effortlessly. That's the first.

953
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 2: Second thing I'd say is he doesn't have his wide

954
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 2: array at a number of takedowns as Kobeebe. He's a

955
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 2: little bit more limited in that regard. In that sense,

956
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 2: he's a little bit like Sabit. He likes the body lock,

957
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 2: but he's also a little bit different that he is

958
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 2: an aggressive passer and has most of his damage comes

959
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 2: from He doesn't mind seeking mounts. A bit of a

960
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: lost art, he's bringing it back, which I really like

961
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 2: to see. He likes to lay his opponent's flat rather

962
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 2: than wrestle with them as they get to base. He'll

963
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 2: do that, but that's not really the way he goes.

964
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 2: So he's got a lot of subtle but important differences

965
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 2: from Kobee But the thing that stands out to me

966
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 2: is he's just go, go, go, go go all the time.

967
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 2: And that's the kind of thing that you get a

968
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 2: little bit confused about if you watch someone go from

969
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 2: regional MA. What I mean by confused about that kind

970
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 2: of style is tailor made to look good on your

971
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 2: way to the UFC. And he clearly has the ability

972
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 2: two fights in to compete at this level. Please make

973
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 2: no mistake, he looks like he might be the genuine article.

974
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 2: But here's just a rule you need to accept in

975
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 2: your life about MMA. Eventually someone is gonna find a

976
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 2: way to stop the way you win. Now you may

977
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 2: still end up winning the fight, but they're gonna take

978
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 2: away all of those pieces from you. Eventually someone's going

979
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 2: to rock you. Eventually someone is going to put it

980
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 2: on you. And how do you react then? And so

981
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 2: why I bring that up is he's got this style

982
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 2: where he's just like a you know, go right across

983
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 2: the octagon, tear into people, you know, barely use any

984
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 2: kind of set ups, and then from there get going.

985
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 2: And once he gets going, obviously he's pretty formidable. But

986
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 2: eventually someone's gonna stop that, and eventually someone's gonna hit him.

987
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 2: What he needs is the reality check that happens when

988
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 2: you get enough proper development that you can't fight every

989
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 2: fight pedal to the floor. There are times in a

990
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 2: fight where you need to go pedal to the floor.

991
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 2: There are sequences in a fight where you need to

992
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 2: go pedal to the floor. So keeping that instinct alive

993
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 2: is the right call. But to me, he has fought

994
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 2: in a way that tells you he has only fought opposition,

995
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 2: that he is just totally overmatched. And that is the

996
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 2: great part about getting experience on the regional scene is

997
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 2: that it usually irons out a lot of problems. But

998
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 2: the truth is the regional scene, if you have a

999
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 2: lot of success and you're clearly an A plus athlete

1000
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 2: like him, is that it can actually foster some of

1001
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 2: these things too, where oh, I can just run across

1002
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 2: the octagon and you know, throw a huge off balance

1003
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 2: punch and even if I miss, I can just die

1004
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 2: for someone's ankles and get a takedown. Yeah, because that

1005
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 2: works on that level. Eventually, it's not gonna work on

1006
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 2: this level, and at that point you don't want that

1007
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 2: reality check to set in later. To me, he's still

1008
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 2: it's gonna sound like I'm crazy when I say he's green.

1009
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 2: He's a little green still. He's a little bit green

1010
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 2: in his and some of his approach. Now saying all

1011
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 2: of this the dissected it's going to hopefully come out

1012
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 2: later today is going to be on him because he

1013
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 2: is clearly quite special. But the reason why I don't

1014
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 2: want him to fight someone ranked yet is I think

1015
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 2: he probably could be at ranked fighters already. I don't

1016
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 2: want him to rush that way. I want him to

1017
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 2: get a little bit more development, have people push him

1018
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 2: a little bit. He's never even seen the third round.

1019
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 2: Someone is going to force him to see the third

1020
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 2: and maybe fourth and fifth rounds, and then the style

1021
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 2: of like just dramatic, you know, pedal to the metal

1022
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 2: kind of fighting. It will backfire a little bit if

1023
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 2: you do that. So that's why I want take your

1024
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 2: time a little bit, getting him more experience. I'm fine

1025
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 2: with slowly up the ante. It's not that he can't

1026
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 2: proceed for his own sake. Let's slow it just a

1027
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 2: little bit to see him make the adjustment so that

1028
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 2: by the time he's in that top five space and

1029
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 2: there's no going back at that point unless you just

1030
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 2: keep losing. He's ready to make the opera adjustments. For

1031
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 2: that kind of talent level, right, all right? From unpredictable rhythm.

1032
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 2: Did Carla really win that fight? Yes? M Rodriguez looked amazing,

1033
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 2: which she'd have used at more Vernice. She did. But

1034
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 2: when if I was over people, okay, I think there's

1035
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 2: a couple of thirty twenty sevens and maybe I didn't

1036
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 2: agree with those. I didn't see what the big deal

1037
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 2: was about that fight. I thought she quite clearly won.

1038
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 2: And then last but not least from Scott McCrate. Do

1039
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 2: you think if the Pettes Bendeja's fight would have gone

1040
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 2: five rounds the result would have been different, different in

1041
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 2: the sense that Pettis may have gotten a stoppage. Bendejaus

1042
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 2: was just overmatched. Petits looks great, dude. He's a young kid,

1043
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,919
Speaker 2: twenty six, twenty six. He's got all that experience. He's

1044
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 2: not a devastating finisher, but he's got a really well

1045
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 2: rounded skill set. He's made some mistakes that he's had

1046
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 2: to pay for. He's had some successes. He's able to

1047
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 2: be able to propel himself. He's only twenty six years old.

1048
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 2: Look out, man. He is a future title contender. I think,

1049
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 2: by definition is a future Ton of contender, but because

1050
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 2: I think he gets the winner of the next matchup.

1051
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 2: But he's he's he's talented, he's super talented, all right,

1052
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 2: So let's go to YouTube here, YouTube questions. Leave him

1053
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 2: in the chat. People have been pulling them out. Let's

1054
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 2: go to those exclusively here, free reign. Whatever you want

1055
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 2: to get to. You want to take a dump on BC,

1056
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 2: we can do that. You want to. You know, you

1057
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 2: can ask about something we missed in all of this.

1058
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 2: We can get to that too while they're pulling up

1059
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 2: the questions here. And you can fire him in in

1060
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 2: the back there if you want. Whenever you're ready, I

1061
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 2: would say I wanted to grade fight Island and grade

1062
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 2: the Bellatort's first effort. By the way, no one asked

1063
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 2: about Pico. People will get that. A little bit later.

1064
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 2: I thought Pico looked great. People are like, oh, Pico

1065
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 2: crushed a can good good. It's called experience. It's called

1066
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 2: maybe something of a tune up fight. The dude's development

1067
00:58:54,720 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 2: has been all wrong from the word go, so why

1068
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 2: would we exacerbate it by giving him somebody ranked? And

1069
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 2: what you saw was patience, execution, control positions, and then

1070
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 2: from the control positions, then the offense opened up, which

1071
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 2: forced bad reactions, and then ultimately he got the submission.

1072
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 2: That's the key, that's what you're looking for. So did

1073
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 2: he do it on overmatched opposition? Yes, of course he did.

1074
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 2: Is that a bad thing? No, no it's not. It's

1075
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 2: a great thing. He needs more experience, all right. From YouTube,

1076
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 2: Jtvo asks do you think the lack of fans slash

1077
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 2: crowds is having a positive impact on debuting fighters? Less

1078
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 2: pressure without the fans, well as it relates to Chimayev

1079
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 2: or Kmaia, however you pronounced it, I doubt that that

1080
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 2: dude feels a whole lot of pressure one way or

1081
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 2: the other. So for him, no, but for the other

1082
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 2: ones probably. Now, you know, you still feel a little

1083
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 2: bit different because you see the big names around you.

1084
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 2: All the cameras are there, so you can tell it's

1085
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 2: a much bigger production. It's a much bigger show. You're

1086
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas or you're in Abu Dhabi. I mean

1087
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 2: that has to kind of weigh on your mind a

1088
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 2: little bit here, but probably yeah, probably the degree to

1089
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 2: which you know there's less atmospherics weighing down upon you,

1090
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 2: it must booy your performance. I would only imagine that

1091
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:27,919
Speaker 2: it would from Nathan Labe Labby Laby. What the hell

1092
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 2: do we do with Pico in terms of who he

1093
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 2: fights next? I don't know. And you can't give him next,

1094
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 2: which it just gave him. That would be overkill. But

1095
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 2: somebody who is not quite a threat, who is a

1096
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 2: little bit more than what we got the last time,

1097
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 2: is the way to go. And this is not designed

1098
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 2: so that we can do the Michael Vin im Page thing,

1099
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 2: because the Michael venm Page thing, to me is different.

1100
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 2: Michael Venm Page has had his opportunities to develop more readily,

1101
01:00:58,400 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 2: and that he's had the big fights. They did not

1102
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 2: go his way, not all of them, but certainly the

1103
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 2: Douglas Lima one didn't go his way. And even though

1104
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 2: he won the Semtex one, then he just goes back

1105
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 2: to fighting lesser opposition. That's not what I'm advocating. What

1106
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 2: I'm advocating is somebody to get enough reps where in

1107
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 2: this case, he got one more walk out, one more travel,

1108
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 2: he got one more camp, he got one more go

1109
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 2: round with Jackson Wink, he got to execute without much

1110
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 2: resistance the kind of things that he needed to do.

1111
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 2: He needs one more level up from that and to

1112
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 2: do that again. And why am I giving this guy

1113
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 2: which you might consider to be special treatment? Well, yeah, dude,

1114
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 2: some guys are worth more special treatment than others. MMA

1115
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 2: fans have been inculcated with this UFC style of development,

1116
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 2: which is either you're ready or you're not, and that

1117
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 2: works for some. For some that is all you need.

1118
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 2: For a lot of fighters, that is not what is

1119
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: good for them. They need something a little bit more

1120
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 2: hands on, especially when they had improper development to begin with,

1121
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 2: where they were way rushing this guy way too fast

1122
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 2: that it was just not the right way to do that.

1123
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 2: So now we can take a step back, we can

1124
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 2: look around, We could say, is there a better way

1125
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 2: to do this this time? Because you get this one

1126
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 2: wrong and then there is no going back. This is

1127
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 2: basically your last chance to get it right with Pico.

1128
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 2: After this it's a rat. So I leave that capable

1129
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 2: question up to rich Chaw over at Belator. He can

1130
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 2: figure it out. But do not rush this kid again,

1131
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 2: because you do it one more time and it's over

1132
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 2: for you. From Alex Alberto G how would Kamaru fight Chimeyev?

1133
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 2: My hunch is there was a guy that Chimeyev fought.

1134
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 2: Let me give you his name. Actually you should go

1135
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 2: look this up. I tweeted about it yesterday. This is

1136
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 2: why he is a little bit not like Kabib, It's

1137
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 2: a little bit more than that. So two fights before

1138
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 2: his UFC debut, he fought a guy by the name

1139
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:55,919
Speaker 2: of Ikram ales Karov. Now I've not heard of him either,

1140
01:02:56,120 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 2: but ales Karov is apparently a sambo world champion. I

1141
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 2: think he's a master of sport in Russia. At it.

1142
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 2: He's stuffed all of Tremelle's takedowns. Chimeev didn't get close.

1143
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 2: I mean there's a couple times where he had a

1144
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 2: good trip but it didn't work. And Aleskarov just absolutely

1145
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 2: stuffed all of them. If that guy can stuff him,

1146
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 2: Usbin can stuff them. To be quite clear, he's much

1147
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 2: bigger and he's much stronger. And also what we know

1148
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 2: is that a guy like Kumar Usman can slow a

1149
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 2: fight down, wear on you, drain you. He's hard to

1150
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 2: take down, hard to hold down, hard to hurt. The

1151
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 2: way that chimey have won was that he fainted and

1152
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 2: got a reaction, and then the head of Aleskarov dipped

1153
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 2: and he uppercutted him and knocked him out with one punch,

1154
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 2: So he obviously has heavy hands. But if you can,

1155
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I don't know exactly how Chimeev's going

1156
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 2: to look if the fight goes to the fourth or

1157
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 2: fifth rounds, or if all of his takedowns are stuffed

1158
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 2: and he gets tired. But I've just seen this kind

1159
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 2: of move before where God comes out like off the

1160
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 2: regional scene, filled with all the talent in the world.

1161
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 2: And this guy is absolutely special, make no mistake about it.

1162
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 2: But I want to see him have a more measured approach,

1163
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 2: and I want to see the rest of his skills

1164
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 2: come to life, because what if he can't take Camaro down, Well,

1165
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 2: now you got to strike with him, and maybe you

1166
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 2: got heavy hands, But Kamara's got heavy hands, two in

1167
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 2: a hell of a chin, and he can maybe take

1168
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 2: you down and then wear on top and then control you,

1169
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:28,439
Speaker 2: and then what's the point of that. So again, let's

1170
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 2: not fast forward his development, take his time from Liam O'Brien.

1171
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 2: How would you grade on paper Bellatore's next card in August?

1172
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 2: First of all, I saw people giving Bellator's card on

1173
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 2: Friday night like a B and a C. I think

1174
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 2: a B is a fair score than a C. It

1175
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 2: wasn't that the card was all that great. The JJ

1176
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 2: Wilson fight was cool. I guess over Tawe Claxton, Pico

1177
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 2: got a nice win. Sergio Pettis looked good. But it

1178
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 2: was a very modest effort from Belitar. I think it

1179
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 2: was modest on purpose. I don't think they were going

1180
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 2: out there being like, all right, you know when UFC

1181
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 2: came back, they wanted to do UFC two forty nine.

1182
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 2: Like Big Show. Biltmore had a completely different strategy, which is,

1183
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 2: let's just get one under our belt, let's see how

1184
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 2: it goes, let's learn from it, and then we'll adjust accordingly.

1185
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 2: Either one has its plus or minuses. One makes a

1186
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 2: bigger splash upfront, obviously, But I don't mind that this

1187
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 2: one went the way that it did, and for what

1188
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 2: they were trying, like a bit of a pilot program,

1189
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 2: I thought it went off pretty well. The only major

1190
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 2: criticism I would have is the pacing was was dreadful.

1191
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 2: I like the desk with jail and with what's his

1192
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 2: face from the NFL. I forget what's his face? Jay

1193
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 2: Jay Laser, Jake Laser, Jake laser. It's fine, but between

1194
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 2: every fight it just slows it down in the most

1195
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 2: painful way. I don't know that we need that. But

1196
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 2: other than that, I thought was a pretty great effort.

1197
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 2: It looked really good on TV. They had new camera

1198
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 2: angles that looked awesome. So I love that. As far

1199
01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 2: as the next card, let's go here, let's judge that one.

1200
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 2: That one's a lot better. This is the August seventh

1201
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 2: Hendo and Chandler rematch, so that will be August seventh,

1202
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 2: belt or two forty three. They've got Curtis Millander Melender

1203
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 2: taken on Sabajo Massi to former UFC fighters Matt mittri

1204
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 2: On taking on Timothy Johnson and to this point, Michael

1205
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 2: Chandler and Benson Henderson. Yeah, it's a lot better. I

1206
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 2: mean we got to fill it out a little bit,

1207
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 2: but even with that, it's a lot better. I give

1208
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 2: that one a B plus something like that. All right?

1209
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 2: Uh from Paulo diego abadilla abou dja. What are the

1210
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 2: chances of DC STPA three being a sad and slow

1211
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 2: old man fight instead of this epic conclusion is being

1212
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 2: marketed as low low? I no to be sad, it

1213
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:57,959
Speaker 2: has to be both dudes, And even if you think

1214
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 2: one of them is over it, the other one won't be.

1215
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 2: I guarantee it. I just don't buy. But that'll be

1216
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 2: sad and old as good as the first two. First

1217
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 2: one was kind of short. As good as the second one,

1218
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe more conservative, maybe more wrestling, maybe

1219
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 2: more boring. Now that's possible, but you know, sad. I

1220
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 2: don't think sad is what I'm expecting from end to heart.

1221
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 2: Is it fair to say that Darren Till hasn't won

1222
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 2: a fight since Cowboy back in twenty seventeen, No, it's

1223
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 2: not really fair. I thought he won the fight with

1224
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 2: gas DeLine. I thought it was close, but I thought

1225
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 2: he won it. This what he didn't win, and obviously

1226
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 2: he had a couple of setbacks at welterweight. I think

1227
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 2: that's a little bit. I think that's a little much. Certainly, though,

1228
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 2: you know, having a bit of a come to earth

1229
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 2: moment is probably going to be better for him. Again,

1230
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 2: maybe his development got rushed too and he's only now

1231
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 2: getting better and at twenty seven years old, again, everyone's

1232
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,919
Speaker 2: going to develop a little bit differently. But the one

1233
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 2: problem with UFC and have a million general is people

1234
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 2: get rushed so much in part because you got this guy.

1235
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 2: She may have comes out and he's just like, I mean,

1236
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 2: Pig's bulldozing these guys out of Europe. Okay, but let's

1237
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 2: not rush him. Let's give him some time. Or you

1238
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 2: have guys who, like you know, Max Roschkoff, were coming off.

1239
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 2: You're like killing everybody in the gym, and then they're

1240
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 2: not ready for you know, somebody who's got triple the

1241
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 2: amount of pro fights, or somebody who's come out and

1242
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 2: they just need to take the fight because regional mma

1243
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 2: has dropped off a cliff and they're broke. There's all

1244
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 2: kinds of reasons that people rush. But we got to

1245
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 2: learn to take our time. And that's that that that

1246
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 2: drives people crazy because now they're finally doing it with Pico.

1247
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 2: But in the end, in the end, that is not

1248
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 2: a guarantee you will get the Piico that we were promised.

1249
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,560
Speaker 2: I want to be clear about this, but here's what

1250
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 2: I do know for sure. If you don't do it,

1251
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 2: there's no way you'll ever find out. So just because

1252
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 2: you do these things doesn't mean you get the end result.

1253
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 2: But if you don't do them, one hundred percent guaranteed won't.

1254
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:05,600
Speaker 2: So it's just it's just a necessary condition. It's not sufficient,

1255
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 2: but it's a necessary condition to get somewhere catastrophic ending

1256
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:15,759
Speaker 2: asks Luke, do broadcast announcers need to have monitors instead

1257
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 2: of just seeing through the cage. Nobody mentioned Whitaker shaking

1258
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 2: out his right hand three times, and Hardy seemed wrong

1259
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,600
Speaker 2: about late stoppage. I would say, you do want to

1260
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 2: have the monitor. If you've ever sat cage side, and

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Speaker 2: I bring this up all the time on my personal

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01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 2: live chat, I've said it here. It's one of these

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01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 2: things where I can tell you two I'm blue in

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01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 2: the face. Until you experienced it, you just can't. It

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01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 2: sounds crazy. I've had the benefit of calling fights pro

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01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 2: and amateur right up on the ring or the cage.

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Speaker 2: I've done both. They don't look the same. Sometimes they

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01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:46,679
Speaker 2: look the same, but a lot of times they don't

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Speaker 2: look the same. On the monitor. Sometimes it really benefits

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Speaker 2: you to look at the monitor. It's why Dana White

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Speaker 2: does it, because he wants to see what are the

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Speaker 2: fans at home seeing. I want to make sure that

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Speaker 2: my experience matches there, right, that's the key there, am

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01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 2: I getting a bit of a different look. It's why

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Speaker 2: you give judges monitors, because let's say I'm sitting at

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Speaker 2: this position on the cage, but the fight is on

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Speaker 2: thirty foot cage, let's say, all the way on the

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Speaker 2: other side, and it's a ground battle, and their backs

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01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,679
Speaker 2: are to me, so I can't really tell what's going

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Speaker 2: on at that point. I absolutely need the monitor to

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01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 2: do what I'm doing. I need the monitor to help

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01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 2: me figure out what's happening here. Maybe not at all

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01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 2: times for all scenarios, but for some pretty critical ones,

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01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 2: especially if it's a close fight, I need it there.

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01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:35,719
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of value to having it there.

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01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,680
Speaker 2: If it's underused or poorly used, that's a fair criticism,

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Speaker 2: but I wouldn't want to take it away from Scott Brown.

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Speaker 2: With Miami Marlins the first team to have mass positives.

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01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 2: Does the NBA regret their bubble in Florida? I think

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01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 2: it's the exact opposite. I think it's the exact opposite.

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01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 2: I don't know if what the NBA is going to

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01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:58,719
Speaker 2: be doing will be successful, and they've picked a pretty

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01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 2: terrible place in terms of the outbreak to have a bubble.

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01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 2: But if you can maintain the bubble. That's your It

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01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 2: seems like that's your path to success. What is the

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01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 2: UFC do. Let's forget about fin out for just a second,

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01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 2: because that's a good example of it. But just think

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01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 2: about the APEX. Don't even think about international travel, passports,

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01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 2: none of that stuff. I guess some people about to

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01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:21,759
Speaker 2: travel internationally to get to the APEX facility, like Dan Hooker.

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Speaker 2: But let's just imagine a bunch of US based fighters

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01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 2: traveling to Las Vegas. What's the benefit there? Right, you

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01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 2: get there on Tuesday, You're gone Sunday morning. You have

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01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 2: at any one time a few hundred people, Like it's

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01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 2: a short window of time. You have to control people,

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01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 2: and it's relatively speaking, not a huge number, and then

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01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 2: they're gone, and then the process repeats itself. So you

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01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:50,600
Speaker 2: can get the screens refined at every stage. When do

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01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,759
Speaker 2: we get the testing, when do we get the results?

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01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:56,680
Speaker 2: How do we make sure that we have proper quarantining

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01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 2: and travel processes and blah blah blah. How do we

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01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 2: do all that? You can get that process down like

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01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 2: clockwork over time, and I suspect at Fight Island by

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01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 2: the fourth event, and then now by a Ucapex. They've

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01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:10,639
Speaker 2: gotten that because it's not it's a it's a don't

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01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 2: get me wrong, it's an incredibly difficult, expensive challenge. But

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01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 2: if all you have to do it sounds like saying

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01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 2: all but just tear me out, is Tuesday to Saturday

1319
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 2: with let's say three to four hundred people and then

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01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 2: the process starts over again. That is doable. You can

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01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 2: repeat that. But if you're doing what Major League Baseball

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01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,720
Speaker 2: is doing, which is, oh, is the game over, Just

1323
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 2: go back home. It's a nightmare, you think this is

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01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 2: unless they change procedure. This is the this is the

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Speaker 2: only way that this is the only team that's going

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01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 2: to get This is the only team that's going to

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01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 2: get this. This is going to happen over and over

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01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 2: and over and over again. And how are you going

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01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:57,599
Speaker 2: to do college sports, college dorms, how are you going

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01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 2: to do NFL football, which you know, in terms of

1331
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 2: personnel is what twice the size of these teams, three

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01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 2: times the size of these teams. It's just I don't

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01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 2: know how. I don't know how you do it. The

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01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 2: bubble in Florida may be a bad idea by virtue

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01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 2: of being Florida, and maybe the bubble, which they have

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01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 2: to keep around for two months, is too much to do.

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01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 2: We shall see. But the bubble idea, I think is

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Speaker 2: the one that is doable. All right. If you guys

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01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 2: want questions, get them in on YouTube. Now. We'll do

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01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 2: a few more of these. Just leave them in YouTube.

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01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 2: They're being screened. We'll do two or three more of these,

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01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 2: and then we'll call it a day. From Casey Kinneman

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01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 2: outside of kamzat, who are your big winners from Fight Island?

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01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:43,560
Speaker 2: I thought that Calvin Cater was a big winner. Figuredo

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01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 2: has to be one. Got to count Figuredo as one. Obviously,

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01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 2: Peter Yan is a big one. I thought al jim

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01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 2: Man stiling would have been by virtue of not competing

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01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 2: there per se, but being next to the line. But

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01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 2: that's a weird one. Who are some other ones here?

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01:13:58,000 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 2: Let me pull this up very quickly if I can.

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01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 2: I would say my answer would be, uh, we go

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01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 2: to let's see from Usman and Masvidal, I would say

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01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 2: Rose would be a big one, right, I'd add her in.

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01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 2: I'm gonna add in Jimmy Rivera. Jared Gordon is a

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01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 2: big one for me. Munir lezez A big one for me.

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01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 2: I'm gonna add in Ascar Ascaroff shouts to BC. I'd

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01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 2: add in a Raphael Fazaiev. God, he looked like a beast.

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01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 2: Jack Romanson looked good. H. Grant Dawson is not getting

1359
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,520
Speaker 2: a lot of talk, but I thought he looked really good.

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01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 2: Armand sar Yukian amazing. Obviously I mentioned Devison figuredo and

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01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 2: from the last card, I'd say, you know, it looked

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01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 2: pretty good. Pannikey and Zod look pretty good. H Craig.

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01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 2: They all bears you out here still submitting people from

1364
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 2: his guard amazing, ver Doom and you know Whitikar getting

1365
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 2: back in the winning track is a big deal. And

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01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 2: then you know Toronaldo. The sad part is everyone's talking

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01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 2: about the stoppage, but he actually looked pretty good because

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01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 2: he had a tough fight, had sort of like come

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01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 2: back through it there and it was back and forth

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01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:21,600
Speaker 2: and he got a nice win, all right. From Braveheart,

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01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 2: asks Luke, do you think by kabebe ruling himself out

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01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 2: till later in the year UFC will make Justin versus McGregor.

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01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 2: In the meantime, I don't know, man, Do you guys

1374
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 2: see that video of McGregor on the beach somewhere with

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01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:38,719
Speaker 2: some orderly bringing him drinks and he's up there lighting

1376
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 2: up a spliff. You know, I don't know, man, I

1377
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 2: don't know where his head is out on that one.

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01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 2: That would be like the natural order of things that

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01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 2: you would go to if that was something that they

1380
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:52,560
Speaker 2: could reasonably rely upon. But Connor's his own, man, I

1381
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 2: don't know your inclination to target that is correct? Like

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01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:01,839
Speaker 2: what else would they do? And by the way, wouldn't

1383
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 2: that be great? Totally fair? But where McGregor is in

1384
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 2: his mind, your guess is as good as mine. All Right,

1385
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 2: we'll do two more from something funny. Who will look

1386
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 2: more foolish? Tyson or Jones Junior got The people in

1387
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 2: charge of the Jake Paul and Nate Robinson fight hit

1388
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 2: me up and asked if I wanted an interview. I

1389
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 2: was like, no, No, I don't Who will look more foolish?

1390
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 2: Probably Tyson? So here's what's gonna happen. I think either

1391
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 2: Tyson like looks really good early, either knocks them out

1392
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 2: or you know, land some big shots because it's an exhibition,

1393
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 2: or or he sort of just can't ever get going

1394
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 2: and Jones Junior figures out a way to just sort

1395
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 2: of like piece him up through the course of the

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01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 2: whole thing, and then you know, lately gets kind of sad,

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01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 2: all right, Last, but not least ellis Grant the third

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01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:05,640
Speaker 2: says or asks Figuredo versus Garbrandt, who takes it. So

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01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 2: I'm assuming you mean at one twenty five, which Garburn

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01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 2: says he can still make. I'm gonna still say Figuredo

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01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 2: between all the different things he can do, I just

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01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 2: don't know how Garbran's gonna look at one twenty five.

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01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:17,720
Speaker 2: You know, both guys would have to cut a bunch

1404
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 2: of weight, including Figuredo obviously, but he's the existing champ.

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01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 2: So I'm going to assume that Figaredo has enough power

1406
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 2: punching and the rest of his game, like his ground

1407
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 2: game is nasty, I'll go with him, all right. Uh, folks,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for giving us a trial run

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01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:36,679
Speaker 2: here if you liked it, and I hope you did again.

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Speaker 2: Not a thing we'll do normally, but you know, just

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Speaker 2: kicking the tires on the idea the event that one

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Speaker 2: of us goes on vacation, which I will eventually go,

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Speaker 2: probably next month of the month after at some point,

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Speaker 2: give the video a thumbs up, subscribe to the channel.

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Speaker 2: There is a Dissected coming if you've got any questions

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Speaker 2: for me Luke Thomas Newstgmail dot com. Plus you can

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Speaker 2: and there I am on Instagram and Twitter as well.

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Speaker 2: All right, so dissectly we'll either be out later today

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Speaker 2: at the latest tomorrow. Yeah, appreciate you guys tuning in.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. And until now. Oh yeah, by

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Speaker 2: first card is coming up I think August first, So

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Speaker 2: we are rocking and rolling folks. All right, thank you

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Speaker 2: guys so much for watching. I appreciate it. Until next time,

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