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Speaker 2: Because the NBA wants to take their sweet ass time

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Speaker 2: with getting to these games, they've extended the talking points

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Speaker 3: Worth talking about when it comes to that.

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Speaker 2: So we just got to wait our turn and instead

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Speaker 2: stuff on the field, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: the details started to trickle out. When it comes to

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers and the saga and signing with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Who wrote this? Who wrote this? Expect who typed this out?

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Speaker 3: When did Albert become Albert Brie? Mike wrote this? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: that was a profate Mike, you forgot an r. Yeah

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Speaker 3: it's Breer. I don't know. I mean, even even the

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Speaker 3: best of the best need editors. You know that, you

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Speaker 3: know people to proof read it, at least you know

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Speaker 3: Albert Albert Brie. I'm all right, who's that what what

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Speaker 3: insider is that? Huh, maybe he was hanging with Lee.

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Speaker 4: Dan.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Lee, I'm just saying it's not beyond the realm

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Speaker 3: of possibility that Mike could have been, you know, bending

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Speaker 3: and bending the elbow a little bit. You know, Mama's

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Speaker 3: Mama's truth juice. You know.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Well, listen, he.

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Speaker 3: Really wanted to read it too, Lee. He's like man,

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Speaker 3: he is like me. You see it, Albert Albert Briham

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Speaker 3: Si you say, oh my god, just ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: But that is one of the details that has come

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Speaker 2: the details of the contract that he did sign with

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Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers. As we mentioned yesterday, we will get

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Speaker 2: to hear from Rogers. He is scheduled to speak with

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Speaker 2: over under on how many questions before somebody asked him

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Speaker 2: about the wedding ring or whatever that ring was yesterday.

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Speaker 2: We'll await the results and have those results coming up tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Did they ask him, No, not yet, because they talk

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Speaker 5: Today. The day Soday's the big day. Today's a big day.

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Speaker 5: He must have the mighty fallen if today is the

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Speaker 3: You gave a one year deal nineteen million dollars, which

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Speaker 3: somebody's only going to make like just one dollar over

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Speaker 2: I got news for you, anybody, I got news for you,

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Speaker 2: anybody that's got Aaron Rodgers fatigue. Why don't you tell

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Speaker 2: somebody in the NFL to do us as solve and

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Speaker 2: get arrested. Okay, give us something else to talk about.

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Speaker 3: Or go or go do something else with your for weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that too.

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Speaker 3: I'm so sick. I'll see you on a couple of months.

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Speaker 3: Used to you too, biggest? You came in hot.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't get out my mom.

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Speaker 4: I literally can't it.

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Speaker 3: It's been like it's hard to unhear it and see

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Speaker 3: it once you once you heard.

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Speaker 2: But uh so so with that, we do have the details.

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Speaker 2: According to Albert Bree of SI, doc is laid out

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Speaker 2: by Mike Floria. We'll listen it, it happens.

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Speaker 3: Who cares?

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Speaker 2: But point is the incentives.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I would have caught that.

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Speaker 2: The incentives that come along with the Aaron Rodgers contract

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Speaker 2: or the following if he participates in seventy percent of

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Speaker 2: is satisfied. Here's what he'll get if the Steelers make

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. Will go one at a time. You tell

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Speaker 2: me how likely this is. Lamar Steelers make the playoffs

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Speaker 2: and gets five hundred thousand dollars likely, Okay, if they

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Speaker 3: Depends, all right, depends.

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Speaker 2: If they win the divisional round. And you know, let's

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Speaker 2: what can we spice this up a little bit? You

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Speaker 2: got any game show music, maybe Pittsburgh Steeler polka in

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Speaker 2: the like let's go ahead and I'll go with the polka.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, let's dust off a parole.

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Speaker 3: Boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of crazy, one of them.

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Speaker 3: It's the same song, but they made it the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: About us, you know how we are, but didn't Steelers

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Speaker 2: Polka come before.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I probably would. I don't know. That's

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Speaker 3: that's a that would be a great trivia question. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: Kidding the Pittsburgh Steelers, Chuck Maull and all his friends,

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Speaker 3: Joe used to dance. What do Italians dance like? Why

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Speaker 3: do you want Italians dance like that?

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Speaker 7: So let me jump it? What maybe Dan's are like that? Okay,

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Speaker 7: come on, man, let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Snail tramp you can't.

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Speaker 3: You can unsee that one either.

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Speaker 8: So so the we continue on the incentive of gravity,

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Speaker 8: the incentive details of the Aaron Rodgers contract. If so

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Speaker 8: if these Steelers, if they earn a first round by

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Speaker 8: if they win in the wildcard round with Rogers taking

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Speaker 8: at least half the snaps to get six hundred grand,

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Speaker 8: If they win in the divisional round and Rogers takes

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Speaker 8: at least half the snaps, seven hundred and fifty thousand,

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Speaker 3: All of those are doable. I don't think they'll win

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Speaker 3: I think they'll make the playoffs. They could possibly win

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Speaker 2: So are they going to win the AFC title game

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Speaker 2: because if so Rogers and Rogers takes at least half

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Speaker 3: Yeah no, if they win stick and you know what,

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Speaker 3: you want to know what's ridiculous about them doing that?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm gonna just be honest. What's what's ridiculous

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Speaker 3: the thing, right, if you're bringing Aaron Rodgers in, and

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Speaker 3: to get you to the super Bowl, why the hell

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Speaker 3: And if you're going to give him a one year contract,

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Speaker 3: I have with it again. And I said this yesterday.

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Speaker 3: You know how they say the sayings to all these

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Speaker 4: You can't.

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Speaker 3: You can't set the stage for the standard to be

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Speaker 3: like if you believe that you can do discounted parts

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Speaker 3: So I don't understand why you could think the results

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Speaker 2: I mean we're not even done yet. Come, I mean,

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Speaker 2: do you want to know how he can earn an

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Speaker 3: which listen, a contract is a contract. You're going to

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Speaker 3: Is it feasible to think that Aaron Rodgers is motivated

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Speaker 2: Well, that's why this another detail that came out yesterday

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Speaker 2: It's still not knowing how Rogers can pump up his

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter for Aaron because you ain't paying me

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Speaker 2: And I don't think that in the back of his mind,

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Speaker 3: Why are you doing it?

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Speaker 3: That's my thought.

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Speaker 2: If he finished last year either on the bench, injured,

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Speaker 3: All right, screw it.

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Speaker 2: If there's a situation that I look at and go, oh,

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Speaker 3: Can you say that is what? Can we really say

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Speaker 2: But to their to their credit, when they've had issues elsewhere,

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 3: I think there has been drama that has come out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can't even put them in the Jets

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Speaker 2: in the same category of dysfunction.

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Speaker 3: You can't put them in the set. You cannot put

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Speaker 2: That is very true, and I think that that element

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Speaker 3: Which one is better? A better loser or just a

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Speaker 3: which one's better? Would you rather be a better loser

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Because then I can blame people around me. Hell yeah,

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Speaker 3: see to me, to me. The Pittsburgh Steelers are a

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Speaker 3: they don't have losing seasons, but the expectations for them

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Speaker 3: New York Jets, it's like everything is a bonus. If

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Speaker 3: Let's not make it to the super Bowl play for

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just saying, bro, I'd rather be a

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Speaker 3: It creates false expectations and you know what, false expectations

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Speaker 3: And it made for a good storyline today, you know,

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Speaker 4: What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Petros? I got a I didn't know that this was

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Speaker 9: I think it's a certainly a twenty first century deal, right.

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Speaker 9: And now they're slowly coming back. Blake Smell's working out again,

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Speaker 9: Otani's getting ready to pitch, maybe even before the All

442
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Speaker 9: Star break. So there's a lot of movement there. But yeah,

443
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 9: I mean, people go to the games in mass The

444
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 9: games are all sold out. They're screaming the entire time.

445
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 9: There's a lot of social media buzz and excitement and action.

446
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 9: They meet each other in the playoffs every year, it seems,

447
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 9: and have epic battles and there's vitriol between the managers

448
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 9: between from the last year's playoffs.

449
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Speaker 4: There's all kinds of stuff there.

450
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Speaker 9: So and Manny Machado remember, used to be a Dodger

451
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 9: and ended up with the Padres signing there so. I

452
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 9: mean they did the crying Kershaw do you remember that?

453
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, from a couple of years ago. They beat

454
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Speaker 9: the Dodgers, and I don't know why the Dodgers are

455
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 9: so but hurt about this, but they did like a

456
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 9: meme of Kershaw crying and ringing mission mel up on their.

457
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 4: JumboTron or their big screens.

458
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Speaker 9: And there's a lot of meat on the bone between

459
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Speaker 9: the Dodgers and the Padres. Now, Kirk Boom, Yeah, does

460
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 9: it go way back to the nineteenth century?

461
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 4: No?

462
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 9: Does it speak to the expansion to the West Coast

463
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 9: of Major League Baseball with the Dodgers and the Giants

464
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 9: leaving Brooklyn and New York respectively, and then those colors

465
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Speaker 9: and the orange and Blue being replaced and turned into

466
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Speaker 9: the New York Mets. You know, all of that stuff

467
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 9: is endless. It's a great rivalry. It's Vince Scully, it's

468
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 9: Willie Mays, It's Tommy Lasorda, it's Juan Marishal.

469
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 4: It's all that stuff.

470
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Speaker 9: But there's been a lot of fire and brimstone between

471
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 9: the Dodgers and the Padres for decades. And right now

472
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 9: the Padres, I know they have some financial issues. The owner,

473
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 9: who was a great owner, passed away, and I'm not

474
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 9: sure what the future is. I know their TV deal

475
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 9: is super weird, like Major League Baseball, and they have

476
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 9: a great TV broadcast and Major League Baseball's in charge

477
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 9: of their TV broadcast. They have like the MLB Mike

478
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 9: Flags and stuff like that. But all that being said,

479
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 9: I think Munsy's right. I mean, the real rivalry, the

480
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 9: one hundred and twenty year old rivalry, is Dodgers versus Giants.

481
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 9: Now this, you know, this can change in a lot

482
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Speaker 9: of ways. I mean it changed in the nineties for

483
00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 9: Washington and Oregon right in the Pac twelve pack, ten

484
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 9: or pack, whatever you wanted to call it. Back then,

485
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 9: it was Washington. Washington State is the Apple Cup, Oregon

486
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 9: Oregon State is the Civil War. And those are great

487
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 9: rivalries and everybody gets involved. But in the last twenty years,

488
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 9: the bigger rivalry in the Northwest that developed that of

489
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 9: anger and hatred and Rick Neuheisel doing something is Washington

490
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 9: versus Oregon and jealousy over who the blue blood in

491
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 9: the Northwest is and Phil Knight and all that. So

492
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 9: these things can change. But it's Giants, Dodgers is the

493
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 9: West Coast Yankees Red Sox, and you know, yes, it's

494
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Speaker 9: great when the Red Sox played in Blue Jays or whatever,

495
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 9: but this is a little I mean, Dodgers Padres is exciting,

496
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 9: but it doesn't have the breadth and depth of the

497
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Speaker 9: of the history.

498
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Speaker 2: Well I'm just gonna ask you that because it does

499
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: feel like ESPN still tries to churn out Yankees Red

500
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 2: Sox as if it's you know, twenty years ago, and

501
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: you got Pedro Martinez assaulting Don Zimmer, like it's like, well, you.

502
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 4: Know, did he assault Don Zimmer or did don Zimmer

503
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Speaker 4: charge it?

504
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 2: That's fair, I mean it's fair.

505
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 9: Grabbed Don Zimmer by the ear lobes and did a

506
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 9: little bit of an ola.

507
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 2: I mean he handled bar his ears.

508
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 4: You know, I want to see Don Zimmer go down

509
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 4: like that.

510
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 9: And then the worst part was he went down and

511
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 9: he didn't get up, No, you know, he just went

512
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 9: he just dirted.

513
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,959
Speaker 2: It, which was by the way, that was wild television

514
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: back in the day.

515
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 4: Oh it was awesome.

516
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 9: I mean, it was like it was it was like

517
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 9: one of those simulations and AI you see, we're like

518
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 9: Trump sitting in the Oval office and then he just

519
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 9: starts socking some world leader.

520
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 4: Like that's not real, you know, but it really happened.

521
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 4: Uh yeah.

522
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Speaker 9: But Yankees Red Sox still means a lot to a

523
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 9: lot of people, you know.

524
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Speaker 4: I mean, I know ESPN runs it out like like like.

525
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 9: Big Noon runs out Brady Quinn versus Liner and every year.

526
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 3: Ready for that right now?

527
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Oh, they're gonna watch the game and go

528
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 4: over it again.

529
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 9: At least we're gonna have to listen to Reggie anyway.

530
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 9: All I'm saying is all I'm saying is these things

531
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Speaker 9: are cyclical. But for centuries we've had Yankees Red Sox

532
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 9: and Dodgers Giants and all of those great things. And

533
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 9: Dodgers Padres is really exciting within the context of the

534
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 9: Major League season the last few years.

535
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 4: But I don't know if it has the staying power.

536
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 9: If the Padres have the staying power, then then maybe

537
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 9: it will.

538
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Speaker 3: Hmm. I'm gonna switch sports on you. You do see that, Okay?

539
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 3: Let's see good with that.

540
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 4: I'm fine. I'm not you know, I'm not really a

541
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 4: baseball expert, believe it or not.

542
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 3: I mean you sounded like you were all in on it.

543
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 10: No, you know.

544
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 3: I mean that's that's a testament to how good you

545
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 3: are at the craft that that you've chosen to take on.

546
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 3: You know, so I'm proud of you. Bet yours, thank you. Look,

547
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 3: that's that moment where it's like, you know, two contemporaries

548
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 3: that are the same age, you know, compliment one another

549
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,239
Speaker 3: because it's like really cool to give a guy, you know,

550
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 3: his props and his just due. Like you're pretty dope

551
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 3: dude at what you do. Anyway, let me let me,

552
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 3: let me throw this one out at you. Let me

553
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 3: hurrow this one out at you. Uh U c l A.

554
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 3: They they were able to get an offensive lineman that

555
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 3: was coincidentally heading to Penn State to flip and yeah

556
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 3: big time, big time.

557
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan in the documentary.

558
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Speaker 9: And I took that personally, and I took that person

559
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 9: I bet you did.

560
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

561
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 3: So Johnny Johnny DJ Jones, he's he's out of Florida,

562
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 3: which is interesting because everybody's recruiting nationally now, and I

563
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,479
Speaker 3: know the last time we talked, you're like, listen, they

564
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 3: got to rope off Southern Cawn. They gotta get usc

565
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 3: that is, has to get the talent that's local. But

566
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 3: I guess my question for you would be seeing these

567
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 3: these types of reports continue to pop up, how much

568
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 3: do you think the NIL is playing a part in

569
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 3: how this goes? And do you think a team like

570
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 3: UCLA who has historically not been aggressive and active in

571
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 3: trying to help the football team be able to be

572
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 3: competitive And that could be like taken by offensively by

573
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 3: some people who may say this, but it's true, true,

574
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: but it is true they prioritize other things over that,

575
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: which isn't a bad thing, but just isn't conducive to

576
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 3: them being a national powerhouse or competitive team to try

577
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 3: to win it. Do you see this becoming the new trend?

578
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 3: And do you see teams or schools like a UCLA,

579
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 3: you know, comeing to the party and say, look, NIL

580
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 3: is going to allow for us to be able to

581
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 3: sign bigger prospects and bigger prospects from around the country.

582
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, well it certainly does.

583
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 9: Basketball wise, I mean UCLA committed themselves to the NIL.

584
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 9: Basketball wise, some could say they even did that under

585
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 9: John Wooden when it wasn't legal, but those are different

586
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 9: stories for different times. But yeah, they paid a lot

587
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 9: of money back basketball wise, and they were very competitive

588
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 9: in the NIL basketball wise in the last couple of

589
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 9: years for Mick Cronin, and that's made them nationally relevant

590
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 9: throughout the basketball season, which is very different obviously from football.

591
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 9: If we're talking about UCLA, it's very interesting because you're right, LeVar.

592
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 9: I mean, even when I was playing and afterwards, there

593
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,479
Speaker 9: was this big pr push for UCLA to be like,

594
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 9: we have one hundred plus national championships. We have all

595
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 9: these different sports, and that's great, not necessarily a bad thing,

596
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 9: but if you're going to have a very special football program,

597
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 9: you have to treat the football program in a very

598
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 9: special way, and they have to be treated separate from

599
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 9: the rest of the sports.

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00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 4: And I think that has.

601
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 9: Been an issue for UCLA for years. I know for

602
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 9: a fact it's what pushed Chip Kelly out. Now you

603
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 9: can think that Chip Kelly underachieved at UCLA.

604
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 4: You can think that he was a weirdo. You can

605
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 4: say that.

606
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 9: He lost his offensive touch, and maybe all of those

607
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 9: things are true, but It's also true that he didn't

608
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 9: feel as if he got the support necessary to compete

609
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 9: even in the Pac twelve, let alone going into the

610
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 9: Big ten.

611
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 4: So all of those things are true.

612
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 9: Now, this offensive lineman that flipped from that, we're using

613
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 9: it as an example for the discussion. This guy from

614
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 9: Florida that flipped from UCLA to Penn State, Like, when

615
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 9: is this guy gonna from Penn State to UCLA? From

616
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 9: Penn State to UCLA to UCLA? When is this guy

617
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 9: allegedly coming to school?

618
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 3: I mean he's next year, he's a twenty six er exactly.

619
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Speaker 4: And this is the same thing with the u USC High.

620
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 3: Well there's a second.

621
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Speaker 9: The USC High train is like, oh my god, these

622
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 9: guys are coming in twenty twenty six. Everything's gonna change

623
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 9: and this is going to be a great recruiting class

624
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 9: in twenty twenty six.

625
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 4: And that's problem for a few reasons.

626
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 9: Number One, if you're a blue blood or a competitive

627
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 9: college football program and Penn State says, oh we had

628
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 9: this guy, Oh we lost this guy. Okay, well we're

629
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 9: Penn State. We gotta keep on moving on. He might

630
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 9: end up coming back. The point is you can't these

631
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 9: guys I mean, how many freshmen, even if there's a

632
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 9: great freshman class, especially at today's day and age where

633
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 9: teams use the portal to fill gaps as opposed to

634
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 9: playing younger players, how many freshmen, unless it's Travis Hunter

635
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 9: or something, how many freshmen are really going to contribute

636
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 9: to your roster If you have let's say an eighteen

637
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 9: which is very high for today's day and age, I

638
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 9: would imagine like an eighteen person freshman class. Yeah, how

639
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 9: many are going to contribute twenty twenty six?

640
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 4: Like five? Six? Five? Yeah, exactly right, six or five?

641
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 9: And that's gonna save USC football a freshman class in

642
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 9: twenty twenty six.

643
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 4: And then the crazy thing is is is that guy

644
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 4: really coming? You know?

645
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 3: It's one that's where I thought you were going with it,

646
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 3: Like are these recruits starting to use this now as

647
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 3: a recruiting a negotiating tool? Like all right, I don't

648
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 3: have any intentions on going to UCLA or wherever the

649
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 3: school may be, but I must say I'm gonna go

650
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 3: here because it shows that, well, i'll de commit. You're

651
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 3: gonna assume that that decommitting is because of money. I mean,

652
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 3: that's just safe to say that that's what we're going

653
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 3: to assume. So now that opens the door. Said, well,

654
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 3: if he'll de commit from Penn State to go to UCLA,

655
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 3: then if I'm USC or somebody else, it's like, okay,

656
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 3: let's come in with a higher number and we land

657
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 3: a top recruit, like by default.

658
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 9: And is it very different with the de committing and

659
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 9: the committing and I'm taking this trip, I'm not taking

660
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Speaker 9: this trip.

661
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Speaker 4: I mean, there is the money part involved, and that

662
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 4: may be a.

663
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 9: Little bit more above the table negotiation, but honestly, is

664
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 9: it very different than when we were recruited. Guys will commit,

665
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 9: they'll decommit, they'll say they're coming. And another thing like,

666
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 9: and I could say this as a West Coast guy

667
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 9: who doesn't know his elbow from his ass as a

668
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 9: young guy, you know, it's one thing to live in

669
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 9: Florida and be a junior in high.

670
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 4: School and be like, yeah, that's right. When I'm done,

671
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 4: I'm going to Westwood.

672
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 9: I'll see you in LA you know, and I pack

673
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 9: up the U haul you know, call you know, she

674
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 9: going to UCLA.

675
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 4: She'd be trying to party. I mean all of those things,

676
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 4: you know.

677
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Speaker 9: But then when it's actually in practice and you got

678
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 9: to say goodbye to your mom and your East Coast lifestyle,

679
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 9: and you live on the West coast and not everybody

680
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 9: is into football at UCLA, and there's fifteen thousand people

681
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 9: at the game hit the Rose Bowl that fits one hundred,

682
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 9: maybe you feel a little differently about it.

683
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 4: It's it's a fluid situation for these young people.

684
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 9: And I don't I feel badly in a way that

685
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 9: recruiting and it happened, I don't know, twenty five years ago,

686
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 9: maybe more thirty years ago, that college football recruiting and

687
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 9: with the NIL and the transfer portal, I guess it's

688
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 9: not as much of a cottage industry as it was,

689
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 9: but it has become a real cottage industry as far

690
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 9: as following where these young men are, identifying these people

691
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 9: when they're very young, just like your son LeVar, and

692
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 9: then identifying them and then following where they're going to go.

693
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 9: And it's easy for us to sit here and point

694
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 9: fingers and be like, look at that kid. He transferred,

695
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 9: you know, five times, or he committed five transferring five

696
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 9: times different, but he committed five to five different schools.

697
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 4: He said he was going to do this.

698
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 9: He look at his hat dance his mom got up

699
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 9: and walked out, And you know, it's really easy to

700
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 9: point fingers and laugh at people, and really that's our job.

701
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 9: But at the same time, these are really young people,

702
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 9: they really are, and there's a lot of scrutiny on them.

703
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 9: It is a very difficult thing to be told you're

704
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 9: a great football player and you're going to have a

705
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 9: great career when you're a really young person, because you

706
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 9: have no idea what that means or how it's going

707
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 9: to play out. There are so many different variables between

708
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 9: you and greatness on the field. And we really do

709
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 9: a disservice to these guys by the way we follow them.

710
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,959
Speaker 9: The cat is out of the bag, there's no going back.

711
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 9: But I wish we gave them a little more grace

712
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 9: because it's hard to be young. It's hard to be

713
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 9: young and sit in a room with a college football

714
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 9: coach you've seen on television your whole life and that

715
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 9: guy asks you to commit.

716
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 4: What do you say?

717
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Speaker 9: You know, I understand why these guys, you know, tell

718
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 9: five teams that they're going to be their girlfriend. It's

719
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 9: a very difficult thing as a young person to say

720
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 9: no to these people that are on your side. And

721
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 9: seemingly want you to be part of what they're doing.

722
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 9: And it's it is kind of interesting. So I try

723
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 9: to give these guys grace when they commit, de commit,

724
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 9: Go here, go there. I mean, if you really think

725
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 9: about it, what is modern college football recruiting? I mean

726
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 9: there's a bunch of guys who preach twenty four to

727
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 9: seven about accountability, about keeping your word, about your commitment

728
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,479
Speaker 9: to your teammates, about your commitment to living a good life,

729
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 9: your commitment to being a great son or brother or

730
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 9: boyfriend or husband or father, all of these different things

731
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 9: the lip service that we hear from college football coaches.

732
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 9: Yet all they do in recruiting is just bend their

733
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 9: legs backwards to get a young person to go back.

734
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 4: On their word. Think about that. I mean, that's the

735
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 4: you know.

736
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Speaker 9: I mean, we use all these platitudes about being a

737
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 9: great person and accountable and truth, justice in the American

738
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,479
Speaker 9: way and put the s on the chest, and really

739
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 9: these guys go in somebody's room and be like, forget

740
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 9: what you said to Kirby Smart, Come to old mess, right,

741
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 9: you know, I mean, we're to take carry the kiffins.

742
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 3: Do you guys?

743
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 2: Do you guys find yourself because I've I've found myself

744
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 2: getting more and more exhausted by the storyline surrounding college

745
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: football to where it's nil transfer portal college football playoff

746
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:22,720
Speaker 2: twelve team, sixteen automatic qualifiers. This conference wants this, this conference.

747
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's because I just longed

748
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 2: for simpler times, but I find myself worn out by

749
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: the constant discussion about changes that need to be made,

750
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 2: and I just want to watch the games, do Yeah?

751
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 2: And the off season is exhausted, Yeah, I mean really,

752
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 2: I just want to get to the games.

753
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 4: And that's true, and we're all striving to get to

754
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 4: the games.

755
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 9: And I guess the NFL and the NBA have found

756
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 9: different ways to entertain people in the off season. You know,

757
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 9: even though nothing actually happens at the draft, everybody watches

758
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 9: like nothing actually happens. There's no real competition that you

759
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 9: know that that's not why we're watching. But and the NBA,

760
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 9: with their free agency and the way that works out

761
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 9: and the hot takes from this person and that person

762
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 9: and who said what on a podcast, that off season

763
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 9: is a lot more easily easily digested than what we

764
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 9: have in college football.

765
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 4: I think it's a good point, Jonas.

766
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 9: But that being said, when the season rolls around and

767
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 9: we have the games, it feels a lot better and

768
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 9: it feels a lot more natural, and it feels like

769
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 9: all is not lost, which is a good thing. But yeah,

770
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 9: the college football posts, I mean, this the new committee

771
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 9: that's going to really enforce things. You know, it's like

772
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 9: the the NCAA is hanging on by this skin. They're

773
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 9: like the gambling commission in the song Atlantic City. I mean,

774
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 9: they're barely hanging on and now they're gonna have some

775
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 9: new police siaka please. I mean these stories, I mean

776
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 9: Lincoln Riley trying to wriggle out of the Notre Dame

777
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 9: r I mean, these off seasons stories are pathetic and

778
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 9: they are they are unsavory, and you can't say that

779
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 9: they don't hurt the sport. I'm I'm positive that they

780
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 9: hurt the sport. But when the season starts and we

781
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 9: have that going, that's good. I Mean I remember calling

782
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 9: a game and it was I forget who it was.

783
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 9: I it was Washington State Boise State, and it was

784
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 9: a good game. You know, John Mattier versus Ashton Gent.

785
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 9: I mean, that's a hell of a game last year

786
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 9: for star Power and my play by play guy. Because

787
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 9: play by play guys can't help it. They always they

788
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 9: can't just call the game, you know, they always want

789
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 9: to bring up you know, well, look what's going on

790
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 9: in the Mountain Wars, and you know, and and I

791
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 9: just said, look, I'm glad to be calling a game

792
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 9: where the two teams aren't suing each other.

793
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 2: By the way, I think I was watching that.

794
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 9: It's true, right, like you know, I mean, at least

795
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 9: these two teams don't hate each other. They want to

796
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 9: be in the Pac twelve together in a couple of years.

797
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 9: So I mean, and I do feel like we should

798
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 9: dismiss those stories during the season because the season is

799
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 9: special and we still have that competition and the revealing

800
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 9: of virtue with young men working together, which is what

801
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 9: we like about college football.

802
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 4: But uh, but I take your point. The off season

803
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 4: is exhausting.

804
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 9: And it's like LeVar said, I mean, this kid, I mean,

805
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 9: this was a big story that offensive lineman that flipped.

806
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 4: There was a big story that some tight end, the

807
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 4: tight end from not.

808
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 3: And modern la that's it's a new day and age.

809
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 9: Man, UCLA's greatest on lineman ever is a Joe Wow Jayo. Yeah,

810
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 9: Ogden who's from way out east, you know Maryland guy?

811
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 9: What Saint Altman's prep? I believe so, I mean that's

812
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 9: that's Uh. They've gotten a lot of a lot of

813
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 9: UCLA doesn't really build the fence in La the way

814
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 9: that sc needs to.

815
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 3: But I don't think it's possible for them to do

816
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 3: it unless they brought a big old Brinks truck. They

817
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 3: can't even well.

818
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 9: The one time they tried to do it, Carl Derel

819
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 9: pulled a few you D line types out of Crenshaw,

820
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 9: big kid named Bryce, remember him from Yeah, And Pete

821
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 9: Carroll got so mad he did that whole gang outreach.

822
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 4: Thing on sixty minutes. Remember he was wearing like a

823
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 4: leather jacket.

824
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 9: Next thing, you know, Pete Carroll was like at at

825
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 9: Nickerson Gardens and Watts like, hey.

826
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 3: What's up?

827
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 2: Man?

828
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 3: That's hey, let's compete.

829
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 4: What are you doing? Hey, what's up?

830
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 2: Complete blood blood.

831
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 4: Like yourself. It's like, okay, Pete, I get it.

832
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 9: You got mad that Carl Drel got one recruit, so

833
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 9: you bought a black leather jacket and now all of

834
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 9: a sudden you're like cool mode out there.

835
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 3: Okay, what's up? Blood?

836
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: Get him on X at the old pet the.

837
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 9: Harrol Hey strap brother, he's in Naked City right now

838
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 9: recruiting some practice.

839
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Speaker 2: Sports Fox College Football analysts. Pee, we appreciate it. We'll

842
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:06,479
Speaker 2: do it again next week.

843
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 4: Thank you. Guys. There he is.

844
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Speaker 2: We are great US papada even Fox Sports is from USA.

845
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Speaker 2: Those of you that maybe were listening earlier and are

850
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Speaker 2: now trying to figure it out, like, hey, we'd Levargo

851
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Speaker 2: he was here the first hour. Well, this is how

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Speaker 2: this works. They are called random peed test for a reason.

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Speaker 3: What do you mean by that?

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Speaker 2: At six fifty five am Eastern time, LaVar Arrington was

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Speaker 2: administered a random test. At six fifty six am Eastern time,

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Speaker 2: LaVar Arrington pissed hot can't be condoned, so he will

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Speaker 2: not be with us for the remainder of the show

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Speaker 2: how to make the rules and I kinda do, but

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Speaker 2: hey is what it is. And as some people would say,

860
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Speaker 2: tough balls. And speaking of which, I would like to

861
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Speaker 2: take this time to defend somebody here on the show.

862
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: I would like to defend somebody. And for people listening

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Speaker 2: on one of those affiliates known as the blowtorch Am

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Speaker 2: five to seventy LA Sports, you're going to know this

865
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Speaker 2: individual very well, very popular figure when he was out

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Speaker 2: here in Los Angeles, spent many years, was a champion

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Speaker 2: out here. And that's somebody is Justin Turner. Justin Turner,

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Speaker 2: is currently a role player with the Chicago Cubs. He

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Speaker 2: comes in a little bit of a bit of a

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Speaker 2: platoon situation, but he comes in great locker room guy,

873
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Speaker 2: great clubhouse guy. Everybody loves Justin Turner. Anybody that's followed

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Speaker 2: the course of his career, anybody out here in Los Angeles,

875
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Speaker 2: you know, still very popular him and his wife, the

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Speaker 2: things they've done locally, just you cannot find anybody. This

877
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 2: is a bad thing about Justin Turner. Everybody loves Justin Turner. Well,

878
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 2: Justin Turner finds himself a little bit of an awkward

879
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 2: predicament that really isn't his fault last night during the

880
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 2: Cubs Pirates game on Marquee Sports. And I know because

881
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 2: I was watching it with my son, who's four years old.

882
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 2: We're watching the game last night. I believe it was

883
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 2: intermission of the Stanley Cup Final, which has been fantastic,

884
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 2: and they decide to award something called the Fan of

885
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 2: the Game at Wrigley Field. Normally, what they do is

886
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 2: they'll find a fan in the crowd and award that

887
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: fan as fan of the game, just kind of a

888
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 2: little goofy you know thing marque Sports does. Instead, what

889
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 2: they did is they decided to award it to a player,

890
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 2: and the player they awarded it to was Justin Turner.

891
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 2: The problem is they showed Justin Turner down in the

892
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 2: clubhouse jumping up and down to celebrate his teammate's home run.

893
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: That teammate is Saya Suzuki. And apparently nobody at Marquee

894
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 2: who was working the camera or the production noticed that

895
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: Justin Turner, while jumping up and down, had a pair

896
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 2: of fake testicles on while doing so. And the best

897
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 2: part is the guys call the game, Boog Shambie and

898
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 2: Jim Deshays, who are fantastic, by the way, they're one

899
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 2: of the best duo calling games anywhere. They just went silent.

900
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 2: They showed Justin Turner jumping up and down. He's got

901
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 2: a pair of fake truck nuts on, and they don't

902
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 2: know what to do. They literally just went silent. And

903
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 2: I would have done anything to be in the booth

904
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 2: to see what was going on, because I guarantee me,

905
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 2: I guarantee they were laughing their ass off. You had

906
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 2: no choice. It was so awkward for everybody, and I've

907
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 2: spotted it in real time. I'm like, wait, wait what

908
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 2: And you can find the video if you go to

909
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 2: social media. Just search Justin Turner. Okay, just search Justin

910
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 2: Turner and it's him jumping up and down with a

911
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 2: pair of fake nuts on. But the problem is nobody

912
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 2: noticed that, and they made him the fan of the game.

913
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 2: And there's no possible way that anybody decided, hey, this

914
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 2: will be a fun one. Let's do let's st fan

915
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 2: of the game on Pride Night no less with Justin

916
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 2: Turner jumping up and down with fake testicles. The whole

917
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:18,439
Speaker 2: thing was phenomenal, so unintentionally funny, and Boogshawbie and Jim

918
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 2: Desias literally couldn't speak. They had nothing to say. They waited.

919
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 2: It was really silent and really awkward, and then they

920
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 2: just continued calling the game. So I would like to

921
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 2: defend Justin Turner from the standpoint of, hey, listen, clubhouse behavior.

922
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: Probably shouldn't have been a camera on him. They probably

923
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 2: shouldn't have awarded him fan of the game if he's

924
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 2: jumping around with any sort of male purse between his

925
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 2: legs while celebrating a teammates Homer, Yeah, probably should have

926
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 2: had the camera there. It's why it's the clubhouse and

927
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 2: or locker room for Elite for a reason. There should

928
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: be a little bit of privacy there. So I just

929
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 2: want to defend Turner. Also give a shout out to

930
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio alum Cole Wright, who is also working

931
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 2: at Marquee Sports. He does a phenomenal job. Cole's fantastic,

932
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 2: so give a shout out to him as well too.

933
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 2: A member of the Fox Sports Radio Alumni Association. I

934
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 2: believe Ben Maller calls it, so congratulations to Cole he's

935
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 2: been doing phenomenal there, and congratulations to whoever decided to

936
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 2: award Justin Turner the Fan of the Game and didn't

937
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: happen to pan down, you know, just didn't happen to

938
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: pan down. And some people were speculating, are those really

939
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 2: his No, that's the joke. So speaking of nuts, the

940
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals might even fall into that category, because the

941
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals are like, you know what, got a franchise quarterback,

942
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: We got all this talent on offense. We've shown that

943
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 2: we've got the ability to go throw for throw with

944
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes and actually beat him in the postseason in

945
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 2: the playoffs. We nearly won the Super Bowl a couple

946
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: of years ago. Some would argue we probably should have

947
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 2: won the Super Bowl, but you know, we lost it

948
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 2: it so far to the Rams and Aaron Donald got

949
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 2: his ring and Cooper Cupp you know who apparently has

950
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 2: shaved his beard now. Cooper Cup is the MVP of

951
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 2: this like all those things that But if you're the Bengals,

952
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 2: you're like, man, listen, we're close.

953
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 4: We got this.

954
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 2: And then they're like, huh, how could we f this up?

955
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: Oh?

956
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,439
Speaker 2: I know, let's get into contract disputes with not only

957
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 2: one defensive player, but two, the latest being Shamar Stewart,

958
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 2: who decided, you know what, I'm out of here. I

959
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 2: don't like the fact that you guys are changing the

960
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 2: language on this deal when last year it wasn't the

961
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 2: same language. I'm not going to sign it. I'm not

962
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 2: signing anything. And so what makes us even more fun

963
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 2: is that on the Cincinnati Bengals, you have somebody who

964
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 2: knows a thing or two about the entire situation. And

965
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 2: that's somebody would be Bengals center and nfl PA vice

966
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 2: president Ted Karris, who defended both Shamar Stewart and his

967
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 2: other teammate Trey Hendrickson.

968
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 10: It's not the best case scenario of how the Spring

969
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 10: could have gone for our first round pick, but you know,

970
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 10: there is a pretty serious business aspect to our profession,

971
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 10: and you know he's taking counsel from from his you

972
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 10: know camp, and uh, you know, I don't. The main

973
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 10: thing I want to say is I don't think to

974
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 10: either of our defensive ends that there's not any harboring

975
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 10: resentment in this locker room. To them, I know, and

976
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 10: I really hope that both camps can figure this out.

977
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 4: Because we have a you know, we have a really

978
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 4: good team.

979
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 10: We've had a super productive spring, and you know, you

980
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,760
Speaker 10: just don't want this to carry over into into summer.

981
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 4: I think from a.

982
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 10: PA perspective, always, we don't want you know, language and

983
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 10: contracts that are going to be negative to players. As

984
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 10: far as guaranteed money, We're always trying to you know,

985
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,439
Speaker 10: maxim of guarantees that guys get.

986
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 3: So you know, it's a business negotiation, and you.

987
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 10: Know, I just I'm uh, you know, I feel I

988
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 10: feel for Shamar that you know, he has to kind

989
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 10: of this is his first taste of the league with

990
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 10: you know, kind.

991
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 4: Of a lot of hate.

992
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,919
Speaker 10: Hate on the internet, not hate, but since he Twitter

993
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 10: is a mess around, so I, you know, I hope

994
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 10: that he can come and be super productive and fall

995
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 10: and kind of get everyone back on a side.

996
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 2: So that was Ted Carris of the Cincinnati Bengals discussing

997
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 2: the uh, the contract issues there and the off season

998
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 2: the Bengals are currently going on. And also, you know,

999
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 2: Joe Burrows asked about it. Yeah, it's a distraction. Zach

1000
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 2: Taylor's been asked about it.

1001
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 3: It's just there are and we were discussing this earlier.

1002
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 2: There are franchises around the NFL that would do anything

1003
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 2: for the problems of the Cincinnati Bengals. Anything where if

1004
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 2: you were to ask a friend, you pull them aside

1005
00:55:55,920 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: and say, hey, so here is your problem, quote unquote.

1006
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 2: You've got a franchise quarterback, a guy who's got the

1007
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 2: chance to be a Hall of Famer, a guy who's

1008
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: been talked about. Troy Aikman has called him maybe his

1009
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 2: favorite quarterback of all time. Everybody agrees Joe Burrow's the guy.

1010
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 2: You end up with him because you sucked so bad

1011
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 2: the year prior. You've also been able to work out

1012
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 2: a long term extension with him. You've got Jamar Chase,

1013
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 2: who's one of the best wide receivers in the air.

1014
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 2: You've got all of this at your disposal. You've shown

1015
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 2: the ability to beat the team that is the dynasty

1016
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 2: of your era. You were the Boogeyman potentially going into

1017
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 2: the playoffs last year. So all of that is yours,

1018
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 2: and you just get this feeling that somehow, someway, the

1019
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 2: Bengals are going to screw this up. They've got all

1020
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 2: of this potential, all of this opportunity, the window is open,

1021
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 2: and they're going to put a board over it somehow, someway.

1022
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 2: You just get that impression, You get that vibe. And

1023
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 2: if I'm Bengals ownership, if I like, dude, figure out

1024
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 2: a way to get Trey Hendrickson in the door and signed,

1025
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 2: figure out a way to get Shamar Stewart's contract work

1026
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 2: out and go back to the deal that was signed

1027
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 2: last year. From a pre it's like, why why get

1028
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 2: in the way of all this? And we've talked about

1029
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 2: it on the show before. Some organizations cannot help themselves.

1030
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 2: Do you want an NBA comp for you? How about

1031
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 2: the New York Knicks who put the nick in Nickel

1032
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 2: and Dime with the way that they operate, And you

1033
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 2: should have known that this is exactly how the Knicks

1034
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 2: are going to operate, based on the way that they

1035
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 2: celebrate after getting past the second round. And I was

1036
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 2: on record and Knicks fans got upset about it and

1037
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 2: got pissy about it because I pointed out the fact

1038
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 2: that you know, it is kind of pathetic. This is

1039
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 2: supposed to be Madison Square Guard and this is supposed

1040
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 2: to be the Knicks. This is supposed to be New York.

1041
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 2: This is market number one. Blah, blah blah blah blah,

1042
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 2: and the Knicks operated like the Sacramento Kings did years

1043
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 2: ago when they hung a Summer League title banner up

1044
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 2: at the arena. You got past the second round and

1045
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 2: people were climbing stuff in the streets, and then two

1046
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 2: wins later, you fire your coach. But don't worry, they've

1047
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 2: got a plan. If you don't believe me, believe the

1048
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer Charles Barkley. He was on NBA TV

1049
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 2: and Charles Barkley spoke about this quote unquote plan by

1050
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 2: the New York Knicks.

1051
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 11: The Knicks gotta be the stupidest down people in the world. Like,

1052
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,439
Speaker 11: you don't find no good coach like that and don't

1053
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 11: have a plan. I mean, a hell of a job

1054
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:13,479
Speaker 11: of sum's going on now, but you don't have a plan,

1055
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 11: and now the three coaches turn you down.

1056
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 4: You gotta have a plan, man, And they don't have

1057
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 4: a plan now. I mean, I don't know what the

1058
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 4: hell they're gonna do.

1059
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 2: Nobody does.

1060
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 3: Nobody does.

1061
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 2: But it's funny because all these Knicks fanboys who want

1062
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 2: to defend the team are like, oh, listen, don't worry

1063
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 2: about it. They got an idea. They know exactly what

1064
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 2: they're doing. Oh yeah, what's that. Now they're gonna they're

1065
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 2: gonna target this guy and that guy and with with,

1066
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 2: with with. They have no idea what the hell they're doing.

1067
00:59:56,360 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 2: They accomplished something they hadn't done in a order century

1068
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 2: and then decided, now we got to make changes. Okay,

1069
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 2: how's that going? But doriy, you got your guy. They

1070
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 2: got their guy. They they had an idea and they

1071
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 2: got their guy.

1072
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:15,919
Speaker 3: Nah.

1073
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 2: Not really, And it was supposed to be feel good

1074
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 2: time for the Knicks. Remember like this was the brand

1075
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 2: new Knicks. Remember James Dolan was nowhere to be found.

1076
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 2: Like JD in the straight shot, I think we're doing

1077
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 2: a cover sets at some local pub in in Manhattan somewhere,

1078
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 2: you know, a couple of blocks like they were nowhere

1079
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 2: to be found. I don't even know if he's at

1080
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 2: the games. Nobody talked about the Charles Oakley stuff. Nobody's

1081
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 2: even bringing up the fact that, you know, Tracy Morgan,

1082
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 2: who's basically nostradamus. Tracy Morgan blue chunks on the court

1083
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 2: during a game, which might have been an indication that like, hey, guys,

1084
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 2: I know this seems cool and all right now, But

1085
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 2: it's gonna go poorly. Guy just lost his launch and

1086
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 2: it looked like he lost the previous three lunches as

1087
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 2: well too. But don't worry. The Knicks are making a run.

1088
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 9: Man.

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Speaker 2: You had Timothy Champagne or whatever his name is, show

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Speaker 2: up with one of the Kardashians. Everybody all got its God,

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Speaker 2: the Knicks are back. The Knicks are back, and then

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Speaker 2: they fire their head coach that got them to a

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Speaker 2: place they hadn't been in a quarter century. But but

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Speaker 2: they got a plan, they got everything's gonna be fine.

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Speaker 2: The Knicks got this, they got it figured out. And

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Speaker 2: it's almost as if James Dolan was like, you know what, man,

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Speaker 2: you guys are doing way too good and I'm nowhere

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Speaker 2: to be found. I want to put my my fingerprints

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Speaker 2: on this. I want to make my mark. Okay, how's

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Speaker 2: that going. It's like the Bengals have a window here,

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Speaker 2: an opportunity, and somehow, someway you just get the field

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Speaker 2: and they're gonna screw it up. The Knicks do something

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Speaker 2: they hadn't done in twenty five years, and somehow, some

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Speaker 2: way they're going to screw it up. They can't help themselves.

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Speaker 2: This is the way they operate, and that's why when

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Speaker 2: organizations get labeled as dysfunctional or theirs skepticism about an

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Speaker 2: organization from the quote unquote national media, the people locally

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Speaker 2: get all upset and all hot and bothered about it.

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Speaker 2: It's like, dude, take a step back and look at

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Speaker 2: the big picture, and it's going to tell you everything

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Speaker 2: you need to know.