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Speaker 1: responsible and be safe. The Broncos beat the breaks off
Speaker 1: the Falcons twenty seven seven, two of three or five
Speaker 1: twenty two passing yall zero touch down interception, Cork and
Speaker 1: Sutton had one, had a great one handed catch, and
Speaker 1: the Broncos around a ninety nine yard pick six back.
Speaker 1: Great side of things to come, bad side for things
Speaker 1: for you all to come, Joe, what man?
Speaker 3: But I had to do with that? That's your team?
Speaker 3: The dirty birds.
Speaker 4: Come on, man, I like dirty birds, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 4: But you know my team. You'm gonna stop playing the
Speaker 4: same thing will happen to y'all too. Now now we
Speaker 4: ain't we ain't going. What'd you think, Joe? Would you like?
Speaker 1: The two of the night? Three or five, twenty two yards?
Speaker 1: Not a whole lot going on. They didn't do a
Speaker 1: whole lot to begin with, But hey, what'd you thinking, Joe?
Speaker 1: You kick it off, Joe.
Speaker 4: It's preseason, Uncle Ojo, and y'all know it's more about
Speaker 4: these young guys, these roster battles and player development, bro
Speaker 4: and we're trying to see if the Atlanta Falcons can
Speaker 4: get some consistency on offense. It don't matter, man, if
Speaker 4: you got all these high powered ass weapons, but if
Speaker 4: you ain't got nobody.
Speaker 3: Who can get the ball to these dudes?
Speaker 4: Bro, Come on, man, come on man, I'm just saying
Speaker 4: that that first drive that first half an ojo. Y'all
Speaker 4: know the Falcons didn't score, Bro, they were scoreless in
Speaker 4: the first half. I thought, oh, man, but the Broncos
Speaker 4: looked great. I thought, Stidham and what's the name sayah
Speaker 4: hew that first drive? Oh steady. Them boys look good, man.
Speaker 4: They look like they got a good report together. So
Speaker 4: I don't know, man. You know, in Precs, especially the
Speaker 4: first game, it's always evaluating you, trying to see what
Speaker 4: you got, who can do what? And when them lights
Speaker 4: come on that popcorn start popping, Man, who gonna jump
Speaker 4: out there and do something?
Speaker 3: Hear me?
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, what you thinking on Joe? You saw tour
Speaker 1: come in. Not a whole lot, not many of the facts,
Speaker 1: deal a whole lot. Anyway, I thought the Broncos. Broncos
Speaker 1: looked really good the first half. They were outstanding, was
Speaker 1: up seventeen nothing at one point, look really good. I
Speaker 1: thought the Broncos played really well tonight. The starters and
Speaker 1: if you notice, O Joe, everybody playing their start or something,
Speaker 1: you know, because the last couple of years, everybody was
Speaker 1: kind of getting away from their starters play and it
Speaker 1: realized it was hampering them when they start the season
Speaker 1: because they didn't have no continuity. You could do all
Speaker 1: the practices you want to, but until you go out
Speaker 1: there and you play in meaningful playing. Look, I understand
Speaker 1: preseason is not the regular season, but I tell you
Speaker 1: what preseason is more valuable, and and and scrimmages.
Speaker 3: It's more more important than that practicing against your damnself.
Speaker 2: I know that for certain Yeah, well listen tonight. Obviously
Speaker 2: I didn't like what I saw from tour. He didn't
Speaker 2: look comfortable. He was jittery, he didn't look poised in
Speaker 2: the pocket. Obviously it's weird because of all the hits
Speaker 2: he's taken in the past. I would think he would
Speaker 2: be a little bit more comfortable and understanding. You got
Speaker 2: to be poors to be able to make some of
Speaker 2: the throws you want, you know, you want to make.
Speaker 2: Outside of that, I don't want to put too much
Speaker 2: into it because it is the preseason, but the preseason
Speaker 2: is the perfect time to show the improvements and how
Speaker 2: comfortable you are in the offense that you're in. This
Speaker 2: is a new scheme new regime, new players, new team,
Speaker 2: and if you're going to be the starting quarterback, you
Speaker 2: have to show improvements right now. You shouldn't be looking
Speaker 2: like this. And no, I know it's just a preseason game,
Speaker 2: but there should be some comfortability, you know, when you
Speaker 2: get understand and being in command of the offense. He
Speaker 2: just didn't look and command at the offense because he
Speaker 2: looked kind of nervous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, I think obviously it's a new scheme,
Speaker 1: it's a new system, it's a new locale. I don't
Speaker 1: think in his wider's imagination when he's signed that big extension,
Speaker 1: O yoe, he thought in two years he'd be playing
Speaker 1: for somebody else. But that just goes to show you,
Speaker 1: and it goes to show you. They talk about what
Speaker 1: teams they got, They got a salary cap. They don't
Speaker 1: care about spending no money if a guy ain't paying
Speaker 1: it out. See, the problem is a guy ain't paying
Speaker 1: it out. They ain't got no problem moving on, no
Speaker 1: sub no. But y'all don't want me to move on.
Speaker 1: When I say I've performed the contract, give me my money,
Speaker 1: y'all cut this man, y'all owe this man forty something
Speaker 1: million dollars. We see y'all cut players, ow them forty
Speaker 1: fifty million dollars. Y'all ain't got no problem with that.
Speaker 1: Pay these people, these players their money. Players get your money.
Speaker 1: But uh, I like what I saw from the Broncos.
Speaker 1: I think and look, it ain't no secret they went
Speaker 1: to the AFC Championship game. I really really believe if
Speaker 1: they had bow knicks, they go into the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Not saying they win, but I do believe. I do
Speaker 1: believe if they had bow knicks. Last year, Oh yo,
Speaker 1: they going with us with Steady and they lost ten
Speaker 1: seven bow knicks, they winning that game.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, O yo.
Speaker 2: Ain gonna tell you something too. And I don't mean
Speaker 2: last year, but I'm kind of agree with you a
Speaker 2: little bit now. As great as Seattle the offense looked
Speaker 2: in a Super Bowl, it would have been a big
Speaker 2: difference going against the one that is, going against a
Speaker 2: Broncos defense. It would have been a whole whole beause.
Speaker 3: They could pressure the quarterback.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Hey, I don't know what the outcome
Speaker 2: would have been, but I'm just saying they match up.
Speaker 2: They match up very well.
Speaker 3: If you think about it, think about the job that
Speaker 3: New England did on Sam Brafford.
Speaker 1: He didn't have no outstanding They throwing the football od
Speaker 1: Joe kenn Is walking the third K nine rand the
Speaker 1: ball really really well. But I think the Broncos defense,
Speaker 1: I think me personally, I think the Broncos defense was
Speaker 1: better than the Patriots defense if you look at it
Speaker 1: top to bottom offensive, defensive line, linebackers, and secondary. I
Speaker 1: think the Broncos defense was better than the Patriots. But
Speaker 1: that's pining the sky. They didn't play both They didn't
Speaker 1: have both Nicks. They didn't get to the opportunity to play.
Speaker 1: It would have been great to see him, but it
Speaker 1: didn't happen. The Commanders beat the Dolphins twenty to seventh.
Speaker 1: Marcus Mario the injured his knee in the first quarter.
Speaker 1: None contact, never good. Malik Willis four or five forty
Speaker 1: three yards touchdown on the very first drive. Dolphins found
Speaker 1: their franchise. Oh Joe, do you believe the guppies? Do
Speaker 1: you believe they found their franchise quarterback?
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, let's be respectful. I believe they have found
Speaker 2: their franchise quarterback. Milik will look good in this first drive.
Speaker 2: But what I would like the Dolphins do is They're
Speaker 2: gonna have to improve. They're gonna have to improve because
Speaker 2: you're getting Milik Willis. You're paying the money and you
Speaker 2: win and got him based on what you saw him.
Speaker 2: Doh Green Bay and I said it for it. But
Speaker 2: you have to understand the personnel. You have to understand
Speaker 2: the supporting cast that he had in the receivers he had.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the receivers that
Speaker 2: the Dolphins have. They need one dog, they need one dog.
Speaker 2: Obviously we have two two at well. We have a
Speaker 2: great supporting cast and receivers, but we need a dog.
Speaker 2: We need somebody where Malik Willik could go in the center.
Speaker 2: He could be blindfolded and he can be guaranteed that
Speaker 2: if I go in this direction with this ball, this
Speaker 2: indeviduent is gonna be able to make a play for
Speaker 2: me nine times out of ten. You need one of those.
Speaker 2: Now it's gonna be really is gonna be really tough
Speaker 2: in the AFC East. Now you got New England, got
Speaker 2: a bunch of boys that can go.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 2: We got Buffalo, got a bunch of boys that can go.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: So it's a little different and I mean the Jets.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the problem finish is that you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to match You're gonna have to match the Patriots offense.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to match Buffalo's offense. We know those
Speaker 1: teams can put points on the board. Now they feel
Speaker 1: they have an even more explosive receiver and a j
Speaker 1: Brown with the Patriots. We don't need to even talk
Speaker 1: about with Buffalo because we know with Josh Allen what
Speaker 1: they feel and what they and how they think. So
Speaker 1: that's your probably defensively, Yeah, I think the Patriots defense
Speaker 1: is a little bit more formidable than Buffalo's defense, but
Speaker 1: I think Buffalo's offense is a little bit more explosive.
Speaker 1: Both teams can put pressure on your defense and force
Speaker 1: you into a situation where you feel like you gotta
Speaker 1: score and you sometime take unnecessary risk. But the Patriots defense, man,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be outstanding. Malik Willis is gonna have to
Speaker 1: play well, and I think you will. But I agree
Speaker 1: with you, O Joy. At some point in time, y'all
Speaker 1: gonna have to go get that man's weapons because y'all
Speaker 1: just don't have the five power. You don't have the
Speaker 1: arsenal to be what you think and who you think
Speaker 1: you are, and forget the division, because, yeah, you want
Speaker 1: to win your division, but you have the bigger aspirations
Speaker 1: of making you know, making a deep run in the
Speaker 1: playoffs and potentially getting to the super Bowl.
Speaker 3: I don't think you have. I don't think you have.
Speaker 3: I don't think you have the personnel to currently do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But the funny thing about it is, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: want to forget the vision. I want to focus on
Speaker 2: the division and being able to compete in this vision
Speaker 2: and being able to get out of that before I
Speaker 2: even think about playing the playoffs, and that would be
Speaker 2: upgrading my personnel.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: Listen, I like our receivers. I like what We've got
Speaker 2: a bunch of machine guns, but we need a fifty cola.
Speaker 1: We y'all got a fifty cow, but they got but
Speaker 1: one bullet in it. Yeah, so you're better help hope
Speaker 1: everybody is standing in a single five line. Other than that,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get to slam them up. Hey, I thought
Speaker 1: Malie Willis looked de finishing tonight. Okay, oh yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: in limited work, no turnovers. You know, he did his thing.
Speaker 1: But when you think about it, what about the backup
Speaker 1: quarterback play for the Dolphin.
Speaker 3: Quinn. What's his name? Quinn? Oh man, Oh my god,
Speaker 3: it was rough, bro, it was rough.
Speaker 4: I think Miami's first team offense showed a lot of
Speaker 4: promise early, but Washington's depth and they run game.
Speaker 3: They clearly took control of the game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's the every everybody's trying to evaluate the
Speaker 1: second because look, you are you are you a quarterback
Speaker 1: injury away from being out of the playoffs.
Speaker 3: You can be out of the playoffs with Joe, or
Speaker 3: you can play.
Speaker 1: And if your quarterback is only down for say a
Speaker 1: month or so, can't he hold the ship steady and
Speaker 1: give you an opportunity to come back and pick up
Speaker 1: where you left off. Or are you gonna be and
Speaker 1: are you gonna be owing for if he misses a month,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be one in three and for all intents
Speaker 1: and purposes, your playoffs is over.
Speaker 3: That's the thing you try to avoid against.
Speaker 1: That's why you try to have competent backups, is that
Speaker 1: somebody that can hold a fort down. Until you saw
Speaker 1: Malie Willison was able to do that for Jordy Love,
Speaker 1: You've seen other quarterbacks do that for the starting quarterback.
Speaker 1: The quarterback goes down, the backup comes in, he holds
Speaker 1: it afloat Miami. Look, is it gonna be a struggle
Speaker 1: for Miami anyway? Ojo, Like, it's not like they got
Speaker 1: one of these, you know, top five quarterbacks, So it's
Speaker 1: gonna al way to be a struggle based on base
Speaker 1: just I think Malie Willis is gonna be really good,
Speaker 1: but based on that personnel, both offensively and defensively, they
Speaker 1: don't have the personnel that can afford to miss any
Speaker 1: of their key guys, let alone at the most important position.
Speaker 3: So that's what concerns me about them. I don't think.
Speaker 3: I didn't think q quinn Ewards was really good at Texas.
Speaker 3: He had moments. I will give him that. He did
Speaker 3: have moments, but the inconcit just to see cause you know,
Speaker 3: raise my eyebrow. I was like, Bro, you just not
Speaker 3: You're just not consistent enough for my for my fancy
Speaker 3: that Joe about Queen Hughes, because he was horrible today. Hell,
Speaker 3: he was horrible yesterday too, and the day before that.
Speaker 3: What here you mean today? I'm just speaking on the day.
Speaker 3: What I seen today. If you saw, if you saw
Speaker 3: the other day, in practice, it was just say hey done.
Speaker 2: I don't think people understand. I think they do understand.
Speaker 2: They I think people at this point, especially those that
Speaker 2: are watching football for a very long time, understand how
Speaker 2: important a quarterback position is. Now they understand why they
Speaker 2: command the kind of money that they do. And when
Speaker 2: you really have a really good quarterback, now you see
Speaker 2: why they make north of two and fifty million, three
Speaker 2: hundred Pat Mahome five hundred, you know, being able to
Speaker 2: win three super Bowls and such a short amount of
Speaker 2: time in his career because they're hard to come by.
Speaker 2: But they're hard to come by, man.
Speaker 4: Is the game has changed, king on your head. It
Speaker 4: was never like this at first because the run game
Speaker 4: used to be a hot commodity. Now that they took
Speaker 4: the running back pretty much out of it, you know,
Speaker 4: they don't have no value for real, for real. So hey,
Speaker 4: if you're paying a guy seventy million dollars, hey man,
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to step back and drop and throw
Speaker 4: that thing.
Speaker 3: I ain't finna hand it out. Put it in your belly.
Speaker 3: Head there that But.
Speaker 1: That's what happened, is that when they change the rules
Speaker 1: the way you could attack the quarterback Now you couldn't
Speaker 1: attack him like you once could. Now you can't attack
Speaker 1: the receiver like you once could. So now they playing, hm,
Speaker 1: oh it's basketball on grass. Yeah, absolutely, because you can't
Speaker 1: run it anybody. Damn right, That's exactly what it is.
Speaker 1: Because you running with somebody, they gonna call a fol
Speaker 1: over you. You used to be able to knock you
Speaker 1: a lot of people. You can't knock here a lot
Speaker 1: of people. You can't intimidate anybody.
Speaker 3: No more.
Speaker 1: Football was built on the intimidation. I used to be
Speaker 1: running that shall across. If you want to watch what.
Speaker 2: I do to you, Yeah, And a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: if you don't watch what I do to you, just
Speaker 2: get by there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, let me hit you anyway, cause you should have
Speaker 5: call I'm here, So I'm hit you because you didn't
Speaker 5: catch it. And don't put this put the paint this
Speaker 5: picch in your mind that if you would have called it,
Speaker 5: that's what you'd have got. Quarterback, You got the same thing.
Speaker 5: Hit the quarterback in his head, you hit him in
Speaker 5: his knee, you hit him in the stomach, and do whatever.
Speaker 5: Now you got basically the size of it, the size
Speaker 5: of his number. That's where you can hit the quarterback
Speaker 5: and then O Joe I got to land on my knees.
Speaker 5: I got it, damn there, hurt myself to keep him
Speaker 5: hurting laying on the quarterback.
Speaker 2: Man, they got to I hate saying it be honest.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not sure if you're allowed to tell
Speaker 2: the truth or not. Be you know, being a Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame, you have to be careful with some of
Speaker 2: the things you do say, especially when talking about the
Speaker 2: game and its integrity, obviously protecting the shield. Do you
Speaker 2: like today's game or do you feel this water down
Speaker 2: a little bit? As opposed it?
Speaker 1: But I understand why they're not trying to have another
Speaker 1: billion plus dollar settlement settlement, so they're trying to clean
Speaker 1: it up. They know more now, they know about the
Speaker 1: hair trauma that comes along with it. They're trying to
Speaker 1: take the head out of the ball game. They're trying
Speaker 1: to make the game as safe as they possibly can.
Speaker 1: You're trying to tell you're trying to make an inherently
Speaker 1: dangerous game safe. I don't know how you make riding
Speaker 1: a bull safe because you're asking one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: of one hundred and thirty one hundred and forty pound
Speaker 1: man to get on the back of an animal that
Speaker 1: weighs damn near ton and they're asking you to stay
Speaker 1: on his back for eight seconds as you drive spurs
Speaker 1: into his abdomen. How do you make? How do you make?
Speaker 1: I don't care what kind of harness you got. I
Speaker 1: don't care what kind of a face cage you got.
Speaker 1: That's a thousand pounds. That's a lot of force.
Speaker 2: Football.
Speaker 1: You got big men running into bigger men at a
Speaker 1: higher rate of speed. Guys are bigger, faster, stronger now
Speaker 1: do human body wasn't made to do that.
Speaker 2: And the funny thing about it think about this too,
Speaker 2: as players that evolved in technology evolved and players have
Speaker 2: gotten bigger, fast and stronger, the dimensions of the fields
Speaker 2: changed it.
Speaker 3: Well, no benches of state.
Speaker 2: So I mean, I respect the NFL with what they're
Speaker 2: trying to do and making the game safer, But I mean.
Speaker 1: You might want to condense it, O Joe, because do
Speaker 1: I want to make them feel bigger and let them
Speaker 1: generate even more speed? I don't want that collisions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Miami, y'all got some work to do. The Bucks
Speaker 1: beat the Jazz twenty four and sixteen. Bailey Zappi threw
Speaker 1: back to back, two back to two picks, back to
Speaker 1: back to back. Excuse me and rookie Clay Klubnick from
Speaker 1: Clemson five or seven fifty six yards over two drives.
Speaker 1: God damn Bailey. And remember they thought they Coach Belichick
Speaker 1: thought Bailey Zappe was better than Matt Jones. Remember o
Speaker 1: Joe the bench mac zone?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Well listen, Matt mac mack wasn't
Speaker 2: playing well at the time, so obviously you have no
Speaker 2: choice but to go.
Speaker 1: But you got to realize what you took away from him.
Speaker 1: Remember you took Josh. Remember he ended up going to
Speaker 1: UH to the Raiders. Now he remember now he ended
Speaker 1: up taking you to the playoffs. He ended up he
Speaker 1: ended up taking to the playoffs. He made the Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl his rookie season with Josh McDaniels in his ear.
Speaker 1: Now you come back and say, you know what, I think,
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia and Joe Judge should be the offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: two guys that have never called plays on the offensive
Speaker 1: side before in their lives.
Speaker 2: I think if I'm not gonna say I know.
Speaker 3: Joe Judge, Joe Judge was the special team's guy.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know special teams ain't got no hairdset, so
Speaker 1: he talking to people on the side. Hey, hey, so
Speaker 1: watch the old side come up, hey, come up, get back?
Speaker 3: What'd you think, Ojoe? What the bus gonna do? Ojo? Right?
Speaker 2: I know one thing this might be a good thing,
Speaker 2: the fact that they didn't that they didn't pay Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 2: They didn't pay Baker Mayfield, so he already he's already
Speaker 2: been playing with a chip on the shoulder as it is.
Speaker 2: Bounce listen, Cleveland, Carolina, Los Angeles, not read out now
Speaker 2: with the Bucks playing his butt off? You mean to
Speaker 2: tell me I'm not deserving of a new d paying
Speaker 2: me within let's say, maybe not the top five, but
Speaker 2: within the top eight players or quarterbacks in the NFL.
Speaker 2: That's how you feel about it?
Speaker 3: Respond? How you gonna respond? Boy?
Speaker 2: Listen by Joe. You took the words right out of
Speaker 2: my mouth, and he's gonna respond like you already know.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say it. You already know how
Speaker 2: he's gonna respond because he's already fighty as it is,
Speaker 2: he's already swim.
Speaker 1: He got two choices, O Joe. If I thought your
Speaker 1: answer in the water, what you gonna do? You either
Speaker 1: gonna see cause you're gonna swim. Those are only two choices. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna see.
Speaker 3: I hope, so, I hope. So it's a look.
Speaker 1: I think the thing is is that at some point,
Speaker 1: to a certain degree, you have to allow a guy
Speaker 1: to be who he is. Joe Baker Mayfield's personality is
Speaker 1: what you see. Cleveland's like, we want to grown up. Well,
Speaker 1: he was a grown up. He just everybody ain't gonna
Speaker 1: be Peyton Manning. Y'all need to stop thinking everybody gonna
Speaker 1: be damn Peyton Manning and everybody gonna be Tom Brady
Speaker 1: and see if y'all and Drew reading.
Speaker 3: If y'all stop that, you'll be fine. Sometimes you gotta
Speaker 3: let you.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta let a guy be himself as long
Speaker 1: as he's not disruptive, let him be if he wants
Speaker 1: to celebrate, if he's an emotional guy and gets the
Speaker 1: guys going. You might not understand it, but like the guy,
Speaker 1: tell yourself, what is it? I don't live with it,
Speaker 1: but it's exciting. Yeah, it's exciting. He's a winner. He won,
Speaker 1: He's won everywhere he's been for the most part, and
Speaker 1: guy's rally around him. And you just gotta stop thinking
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna be payt Manny. Yeah, you want your guys
Speaker 1: to be button up.
Speaker 3: Hell.
Speaker 1: Hell, I want my quarterback to win five m vps
Speaker 1: and have me in the playoffs every year with a
Speaker 1: chance to win the Super I like my guy to
Speaker 1: win seven Super.
Speaker 3: Bowls and been the division every year with a chance
Speaker 3: to win the Super. I would love that.
Speaker 1: But that's if it's unrealistic. Hein't nobody ever won seven
Speaker 1: Super Bowls before. Ain't nobody ever won five m vps before.
Speaker 1: So the likelihood of you gonna get you gonna get
Speaker 1: it so soon after it just happened. So you think, oh, yeah, yeah, hey,
Speaker 1: guess what we got the next Peyton Manning.
Speaker 3: No, you don't.
Speaker 1: And stopped stop old human. No, he don't remind you
Speaker 1: of No Tom Brady. Brady didn't remind you of Tom Brady. Hell,
Speaker 1: if they thought Tom Brady was gonna be this ono
Speaker 1: that they took it with the first pick in the draft,
Speaker 1: absolutely not. Tim Cows, Courtney Brown or whoever they took.
Speaker 3: It came aut in two thousand. So Tim Couch because
Speaker 3: I think Courtney Brown went No. Number One in ninety nine. Well,
Speaker 3: one of them because Cleveland had back to back number
Speaker 3: one picks.
Speaker 4: But anyway, yeah, hey man, it's hard to find great
Speaker 4: quarterback play in the NFL. It's only a few of them.
Speaker 4: Are oat your handful of them. I'm talking about really
Speaker 4: really good quarterback.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm talking about teams who really feel like they really
Speaker 4: have a real chance and win the Super Bowl. It's
Speaker 4: only a few, bro, I'm talking about every year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, every year. It might be eight, Joe, might it
Speaker 2: might be eight. It's thirty two teams. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 2: always a dark horse. It's gonna be a team come
Speaker 2: out of nowhere that surprises. Last year the team it
Speaker 2: really wasn't a surprised but but Carolina was able to Dude,
Speaker 2: when Chicago had, you know, was able to do last
Speaker 2: year that I said before preseason even started, Carol, what.
Speaker 1: You call with a dark horse? Seeattle was your dark horse. So, Joe,
Speaker 1: that's the team that came out of nowhere and ended
Speaker 1: up winning. Ain't nobody know?
Speaker 3: Uh uh? Sam Donald was gonna do that? Hello? Why not?
Speaker 2: Why would you not think he was gonna do that
Speaker 2: when he's going to a better team as opposed.
Speaker 1: To when he was in missispe and he went fourteen
Speaker 1: to three. But but the thing, what what do we
Speaker 1: see at the end. We see the last two of
Speaker 1: these games and then that playoff game. How did he look? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're like, damn, somebody reminded. Somebody hold up a mirror
Speaker 1: and he had a jet jersey on and he's like.
Speaker 4: Damn, hey, But I think I think it helped Sam
Speaker 4: Donald too, the fact that he had a hell of
Speaker 4: a run game too, Yes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And when you got them weapons on the outside, like
Speaker 3: he got.
Speaker 2: That bowl lights out, what jam was crazy?
Speaker 3: It gonna be crazy against you too.
Speaker 2: And then and added Rashid Shah and you got Cooper
Speaker 2: Cup and you got k Man. They were loaded, bro,
Speaker 2: they loaded.
Speaker 1: It makes his job, Yes, that man, he had a
Speaker 1: defense that was suffocating that gave him short bills that
Speaker 1: he knew that he knew if he didn't turn the
Speaker 1: ball over, the likelihood of them scoring enough points to
Speaker 1: beat us isn't very likely. And that's a great feeling
Speaker 1: to have. Now they allow him to, you know, they
Speaker 1: allow him to throw the football because he has outstanding
Speaker 1: Like you guys mentioned, he has outstanding wide receivers outside
Speaker 1: the numbers.
Speaker 3: But it's a great luxury to have to know that.
Speaker 1: You know what, if we scored seventeen and we don't
Speaker 1: turn it over, the likelihood of us losing this game.
Speaker 3: Ain't very ain't very good.
Speaker 2: Ain't having you know who else was like that? Your
Speaker 2: Broncos win? Oh?
Speaker 1: Oh, you talk about you that. I said, I don't
Speaker 1: know about the Bronco You talking about hell because we
Speaker 1: average thirty.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what he was talking about.
Speaker 2: Joe, you have me Okay, yeah, I know, I know,
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, you guys have a defense. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: but yeah, yeah, yeah, seventeen were good. We'll take care
Speaker 2: of risk.
Speaker 1: H After Jade and Daniels team said l s u
Speaker 1: a cease and desist over the jersey the number five,
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow says he was promised by the Tigers the
Speaker 1: number nine wouldn't be touched.
Speaker 3: Let's take a listen to what Joey B had to say.
Speaker 3: I just heard about it a couple of hours ago.
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily have too many thoughts at this time.
Speaker 3: I just thought I don't know enough about the situation
Speaker 3: to have any thoughts.
Speaker 2: I would say, conversation not re issue, like you ever
Speaker 2: thought about that, like since you left? Like, yeah, they
Speaker 2: told me that they wouldn't use it again.
Speaker 3: But you know, you never know, You never know what happens.
Speaker 3: M Yeah, question too.
Speaker 2: Uh again, I don't know enough about the situation myself.
Speaker 2: Yesterday last night, I was just giving my honest opinion
Speaker 2: on what I may have thought may be happening any
Speaker 2: of us. Actually, no, you know, unless you talk to
Speaker 2: Jay and Daniel, unless you talk to some of the
Speaker 2: staff and the people at LSU. We all are forming
Speaker 2: an opinion based on what we may see on Twitter.
Speaker 2: Do you think Joe Burrow is at LSU two years
Speaker 2: or three? Because I know so he had two. Do
Speaker 2: you think it has anything to do with Jane Daniels.
Speaker 3: Not being there that long?
Speaker 1: What Jane Daniels From what I can deduce, Jane Daniels
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly, when the gentleman that was supposed to come
Speaker 1: to LSU pick it was supposed to get number five,
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly reached out to Jane Daniels. From what I
Speaker 1: can gather, Jane Daniels was not amilable to him getting
Speaker 1: the number. Brian Kelly said, where you go here go
Speaker 1: number three. Okay, Brian Kelly loses his job income Lane Kiffin,
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin, Brian Pickett's. Pickett says, Lane, they promised me
Speaker 1: number five when I came here. Here you go, they
Speaker 1: give number five? See Lane, O Joe, what do we
Speaker 1: always do normally where the jud and GM comes in?
Speaker 1: He normally what brings this new coach in? What they
Speaker 1: promise you?
Speaker 3: Hey?
Speaker 1: What that guy probably he didn't promise you that. The
Speaker 1: old regime promise you that they're no longer here. We
Speaker 1: don't have to abide by what they said. Now, I'm
Speaker 1: just telling you what happened. Like I said, when they
Speaker 1: retired my number, they put the number up. The old
Speaker 1: president said, mister sharp, that number will not be touched again.
Speaker 1: The new president might come in and somebody want the
Speaker 1: number and say, hey, here you go.
Speaker 3: What am I gonna do? I can't do nothing. I
Speaker 3: don't own the number eight The school.
Speaker 4: Does, right, absolutely, Hey, but I mean, do y'all think
Speaker 4: do y'all think they made jayde Daniels promises like they
Speaker 4: did Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow said, they told him you
Speaker 4: know nobody but you heard what he's saying. But you
Speaker 4: never know, like I said, But I'm saying, but did
Speaker 4: they tell But did they tell jayde Daimes that too?
Speaker 3: Though? Probably? But who told him?
Speaker 1: If I ain't there no more? I told her, I
Speaker 1: love you forever. That's what your old husband told you.
Speaker 1: That's what your old boyfriend told you. Dang what I
Speaker 1: told you, right, I'm Luther bad George. I told you
Speaker 1: I would love you only for one night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Hey, I don't mean to me honestly. I mean,
Speaker 2: it isn't just a number. It isn't just college you
Speaker 2: played at LSU. You played, you played it, I mean
Speaker 2: you played Arizona State. I think now I really wouldn't
Speaker 2: look too much into it, because now you're in the NFL,
Speaker 2: You've become much bigger than just that number five. In general,
Speaker 2: you become much bigger than you know. You represented an organization,
Speaker 2: You're the face of a franchise. And listen what they're
Speaker 2: doing back at LSU. To me, to me, I I
Speaker 2: can't speak for him. It just would concern me now
Speaker 2: because I'm on to bigger and better things.
Speaker 3: My true child. I mean I think that for me.
Speaker 1: Has a person that has his number retire, My brother
Speaker 1: has his number retired at the University of South Carolina,
Speaker 1: and guys have.
Speaker 3: Come in and asking.
Speaker 1: My brother said no, basically unless you share in the sharp,
Speaker 1: that number ain't coming down for anybody. And uh, he
Speaker 1: didn't come here, so I don't have I don't answers.
Speaker 3: No. Somebody asked me, no, No, make your own number
Speaker 3: I made. I made.
Speaker 1: I made number two in Savannah State. I made that number.
Speaker 1: Nobody had number No. I don't remember nobody having number two.
Speaker 1: Because what I because I told Coach Davis likes what
Speaker 1: number you wanted? He said, you can have any number
Speaker 1: you want because I wasn't number three in high school
Speaker 1: because my brother was number three in high school.
Speaker 3: So I wore number three my my.
Speaker 1: My sophomore junior senior year because I had number nineteen
Speaker 1: when my brother was that he had number three. Then
Speaker 1: once he left, I got three. Once I got some,
Speaker 1: Coach David said, what number you want? You want number three?
Speaker 3: Son?
Speaker 1: I said, nah, I want three. Coach I said I
Speaker 1: want two because at that time my brother had number two.
Speaker 1: I ain't want three no more. So squirrel ended up Squirrel.
Speaker 1: The guy opposite the wide receiver opposite to me called
Speaker 1: it the squirrel. He ended up taking number three, But
Speaker 1: whatever number watered, I was gonna get because I was
Speaker 1: gonna make that number what it was.
Speaker 2: Hello, but number one high school, you was.
Speaker 3: The sorriest number two ever the.
Speaker 2: Noy.
Speaker 3: Hey what number you were in basketball? When you was
Speaker 3: in high school? What was your number?
Speaker 4: Four?
Speaker 3: The three number was too small. I couldn't fit in that, Joe. Hey,
Speaker 3: That's how it was when I was in uh junior
Speaker 3: high school.
Speaker 4: You know, you get the junior high school you first
Speaker 4: started really playing sports for a school, It's.
Speaker 3: Like, man, you want a nice single digit number, but
Speaker 3: hell they two damn you know what I mean? But
Speaker 3: I could get that thing on my damn head. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, and then you got numbers based on like because
Speaker 1: by the time, like the high school, that's what. Okay,
Speaker 1: you got lard bird, doctor j you weren't get First
Speaker 1: of all, you weren'tetting. You weren't getting six. They don't
Speaker 1: get sick, but you had you could get twenty three
Speaker 1: or you get thirty four. Those were like the really
Speaker 1: really popular with twenty three and thirty four. Well, I
Speaker 1: was like, man, I guess I take this because I
Speaker 1: wanted thirty three, but somebody already had thirty three. Because
Speaker 1: lad Bird was thirty three. Lad Bird was my favorite player. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: those probably the most popular number three.
Speaker 4: When I was in high school, AI had just came
Speaker 4: in the league in like ninety six, so I was
Speaker 4: in high school and boy, I'm talking about he changed
Speaker 4: the whole landscape of basketball, you know, because everybody wanted
Speaker 4: to war three.
Speaker 3: Everybody wanted everybody want to brave, everybody wanted to sleeve
Speaker 3: and wanted that cross Boy, you work. I worked on
Speaker 3: that cross over every damn day. O Joe, you hear me?
Speaker 3: What what they were getting ted and tatted up? That's it? Yeah.
Speaker 4: He When I was in high school, they're talking about
Speaker 4: some me and the guys on the team. They was like,
Speaker 4: hey man, we're gonna all go get our last name
Speaker 4: put on our arn. Man, he ain't get my damn
Speaker 4: last night.
Speaker 3: I know. Yeah, I don't need to remind him. No,
Speaker 3: I'm good. But yo, Joe, Joe, you might be onto something.
Speaker 1: What the Joe Burrow said that he was that they
Speaker 1: promised like, Okay, I'm not We're not going to give
Speaker 1: him nine outs. There's a chance there's an absolute chance
Speaker 1: that they made the same assurances to Jane Daniels hold
Speaker 1: up on even though even though Jaye and Daniels didn't
Speaker 1: win a nast did he win a Natty?
Speaker 3: He did, and Joe did make a big difference. Bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, Joe Burrow had the greatest had the
Speaker 1: greatest single football season for a college quarter ever. I said, look,
Speaker 1: you can make a case that he had the greatest
Speaker 1: college season ever, regardless of position.
Speaker 3: Me personally, I think it's Barry.
Speaker 1: You rush for twenty six hundred yards on Joe in
Speaker 1: eleven games, and when they don't count the five touches
Speaker 1: that the two hundred and twenty five yards on twenty
Speaker 1: carriers that you got in the Bowl, that man almost
Speaker 1: rushed for three thousand yards in twelve fing games.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hey, that's a that's that's special, Uncle Ojo. But
Speaker 4: them damn weapons Joe burn in LSU with chasing what's
Speaker 4: his name from ja jail.
Speaker 3: Hey.
Speaker 2: The funny thing about that that twenty nineteen LSU. You
Speaker 2: can probably put that offense against any of the best
Speaker 2: defenses Nebraska, the Hurricanes of the early two thousands, who
Speaker 2: else was good back then? The Florida States. You you
Speaker 2: put that offense up against anybody, and I think they'll
Speaker 2: be ab the holy You might.
Speaker 1: As to go back to the eighty Hurricane when they
Speaker 1: had Jay Buget all those guys, when you had Boogie,
Speaker 1: you had the Dandy Stubbs. But no, And so that
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow went undefeated. He threw sixty touchdowns, but he
Speaker 1: almost threw for six thousand yards. It was it was
Speaker 1: a it was an unprecedented, unprecedented season. But and I
Speaker 1: get look, I get what Jade Is said. Though Joe
Speaker 1: and Joe got like bro I wasn't the hospital ain't
Speaker 1: like we got seven eight like we got Okay, we
Speaker 1: got like Oklahoma, we got usc we got eight seven
Speaker 1: Eighthihlman Trophy winners.
Speaker 3: We only got three Yeah, Me Joe and Billy Cannon.
Speaker 1: And so I'm sure he's feeling some type of way
Speaker 1: about that. But the thing is the only thing is
Speaker 1: the person that promised you that is no longer a thing.
Speaker 1: And so that hey, true story. I did the same thing.
Speaker 1: I remember Mike came in. Now, I redid my extension.
Speaker 1: I got an extension in ninety three because I signed
Speaker 1: my deal uh in ninety two.
Speaker 3: It was two years, three for five fifty two years
Speaker 3: for five fifty oh Joe.
Speaker 1: So they told me, hey, Shannon, you played like we
Speaker 1: think you playing the way you're playing right now, we're
Speaker 1: gonna tear this deal up.
Speaker 3: We're gonna tear this deal up in two years. I'm like, okay, hey,
Speaker 3: what you mean then you gonna tear it up.
Speaker 1: So I ended up going to the Pro Bowl in
Speaker 1: ninety three. I first heat All Pro in ninety three.
Speaker 1: I go to the Pro Bowl again in ninety four.
Speaker 1: I'm what, I have eighty.
Speaker 3: Seven catches I think I finished.
Speaker 1: I think I finished like third in the league in
Speaker 1: AMC and catches that year over thousand yards.
Speaker 3: So you know what, Joe, I'm like, hey, hey, how
Speaker 3: about it?
Speaker 1: Go back?
Speaker 3: Get the table?
Speaker 1: Table table, table, table, table, table, table table.
Speaker 3: Where to God? You asked Mike Shelley what her to say? Mike?
Speaker 1: You know, hey, you know they told me, uh, they
Speaker 1: told me if I have a c A I go
Speaker 1: back to the Pro Bowl, they gonna tear the contract up.
Speaker 3: He's like, eighty four, I didn't make that promise to you. Hm, who.
Speaker 1: You know, Hey, I hit it, you know, I hear
Speaker 1: it with that blue I said, you know, Mike, I
Speaker 1: ain't coming here trying to hustle you or nothing like that.
Speaker 3: You know, I ain't got no GM, hat on or nothing.
Speaker 3: I ain't coaching nobody. You know.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. He's like he's eighty four. A. If
Speaker 1: I get nobody there, try's gonna be trouble. Trouble. Hey,
Speaker 1: oh Joe, Joe, I said, Man, I ain't trying to
Speaker 1: hustle you or nothing, Mike, Man, I ain't. I know,
Speaker 1: I ain't no coach, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: know I ain't got no general manager hat on, I
Speaker 1: don't on the team.
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying. I was just saying what was
Speaker 3: told to me. Yeah, that said it's a you know what,
Speaker 3: as a matter of fact, this.
Speaker 1: How convinced we are. We're not gonna get you new Contrady.
Speaker 1: We're gonna try to trade your ass.
Speaker 3: He they did. They tried to trade me to Arizona.
Speaker 3: He go back and look it up.
Speaker 1: They tried to trade me to Arizona for me, Mike
Speaker 1: Pritchard and the fifteenth pick for Eric Swan.
Speaker 3: Trade fall through.
Speaker 1: Because they wanted more compensation and the rest is as
Speaker 1: they say history. Joe Burrow broke their sec single season
Speaker 1: record for touchdown passes and passing yards and eleven top
Speaker 1: ten wins in two years. I mean, you think about it.
Speaker 1: They beat they beat the breaks off Texas. They went
Speaker 1: to Alabama and beat Alabama. Uh, they beat the breaks
Speaker 1: off Clemson, They beat the breaks off Georgia, they beat them.
Speaker 1: They were beating the breaks off everybody. No game that
Speaker 1: they played was closed. The Alabama gave me. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: they were up fourteen and they ended up throwing a
Speaker 1: to or throw a touchdown eighty yard touchdown to Devonte Smith,
Speaker 1: made a seven point go ball game, and then I
Speaker 1: think LSU ended up running out the clock. But for
Speaker 1: the most part, that was the closest and that was
Speaker 1: looking at all the talent that was on the field
Speaker 1: that day. Look at all the receivers you had Waldall,
Speaker 1: DeVonta Smith, Henry Ruggs, and Jerry Judy. On the other side,
Speaker 1: you had Jeder, you had Jefferson. Look at the running
Speaker 1: backs that you had, Najay, you had Clyde Edwards, a layer.
Speaker 1: Look at the quarterbacks that you had. Matt Jones was
Speaker 1: on the field. Boy was a backup. Tour was a
Speaker 1: starting quarterback. Joe Burrow was the other starting quarterback. Hey Hey, Hey,
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, he did a number on them boys in
Speaker 1: the Natty game. And what he had like touchdowns? Hell,
Speaker 1: he did a number on Georgia the SEC championship game.
Speaker 1: He did a number the man threw for that sixty touchdowns.
Speaker 2: Hey, matter of fact, hold on, now, I don't know
Speaker 2: who it was in the chat, but I saw your
Speaker 2: comment talk about that twenty nineteen LSU team. They would
Speaker 2: have stood no chance against Georgia, the Georgia defense in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3: That's a lie.
Speaker 2: Hold On, man, I don't I don't think.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think we understand exactly what team. You know, man,
Speaker 2: the boy that might be the best offense.
Speaker 3: It is, it is the best.
Speaker 1: Now as far as like offence coming back there, you
Speaker 1: gotta realize like Nebraska had, I mean, yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: the old Oklahoma they used to average four hundred yards
Speaker 1: rushing the game.
Speaker 3: Won't yo.
Speaker 1: Wishball they run that? They run that wishball. Hey, ain't
Speaker 1: nothing like that ball When it wasn't that worthy bird option.
Speaker 1: They spent all the way around and come down the
Speaker 1: laugh keep that bag boy running back with hell back then.
Speaker 3: Everybody run the wishbone or the beer some off shooter.
Speaker 3: You know, uh, but that was that was great.
Speaker 1: It's just like but the only thing is is that
Speaker 1: by this, by this getting out, it makes it makes
Speaker 1: Jade look petty. I think people like bro you you Washington,
Speaker 1: You about to get a court, you about to get
Speaker 1: a deal for three hundred million dollars, and you're worried
Speaker 1: about somebody wearing a jersey.
Speaker 2: You think you think he's does you think money is
Speaker 2: involved in it anyway? His likeness, his image in any.
Speaker 1: Way I would, But Joe, let me ask you, Ques, Joe,
Speaker 1: they got your number and they say you know what,
Speaker 1: and you tell them saying, you know what, y'all can't
Speaker 1: use my name, image of likeness, and they say, you
Speaker 1: know what, You're right, Joe, We're not. We're finna take
Speaker 1: this twenty four down. It's hanging up in the raptors.
Speaker 1: We don't want nobody to look up there at it
Speaker 1: and see John's on the back of that. So we
Speaker 1: gonna take that down. And the pleasure that we got
Speaker 1: the Heisman Trophy winners. You're the one, you know what,
Speaker 1: We're gonna take you out of it. And we have
Speaker 1: the wall of fan for all the all Americans were
Speaker 1: gonna take you off of it, so we don't want
Speaker 1: to use your name image of likeness. See you see
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, how petty people can get Yojo. Now
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you looking like Now, I ain't
Speaker 1: mean it like that.
Speaker 3: Right, I'm just saying. I just.
Speaker 2: It's tough. I hope both sides get to resolve and
Speaker 2: and respectful.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I hope it doesn't have to go to court, even
Speaker 2: though I think the courts are involved now, really they
Speaker 2: gotta fix it.
Speaker 3: What the car is gonna do? You don't own the
Speaker 3: numbers journth that the school does.
Speaker 2: I mean you were listen, I'm with you when you're right.
Speaker 2: I just I hate that it's coming to this, and
Speaker 2: I hate that it's coming to this where you have
Speaker 2: a fan base of people on the outside that the
Speaker 2: LSU fans, and now they picking sides and you know,
Speaker 2: you know most of the LSU fans school Well, yeah, for.
Speaker 1: Sure, Troy Aigman will see some restriction to lead up
Speaker 1: to the Monday night football broadcast. The restrictions are the
Speaker 1: same as Tom Brady face for the past two years
Speaker 1: due to its part of ownership of the Raiders Eigman
Speaker 1: will have to remotely attend production meeting when the broadcast
Speaker 1: crew meets with the game head coaches and key players,
Speaker 1: and will not be allowed to to practice that team facilities.
Speaker 1: Egman spoke earlier this month about the conflict. The Dolphins
Speaker 1: are not expected to be very good this year. Uh,
Speaker 1: the Dolphins aren't expected to be very good this year.
Speaker 1: They're getting out of cap hell. So there is no
Speaker 1: Monday night game with the Dolphins this year.
Speaker 2: Madam, It's all good. We're gonna be all right. We're
Speaker 2: gonna be alright.
Speaker 3: What you think, what you think? You like? You like that, Joe.
Speaker 1: That the Dolphins ain't gonna be on the Monday night game.
Speaker 1: No that that that uh, Troy, that the uh you know,
Speaker 1: the restrictions that they are placed on on Troy.
Speaker 3: I must ob miss some of my bad. He can't.
Speaker 1: He has to be remote. Normally, what happens when you're
Speaker 1: gonna do a game on a team. You get to
Speaker 1: go there, you get to go watch practice, you get
Speaker 1: to talk to the coaches in person, you get to
Speaker 1: talk to certain players in person.
Speaker 3: He's gonna have to do it remotely. He's not gonna
Speaker 3: be able to attend practice. Why is that? Because he
Speaker 3: worked with the Dolphins, same thing as Tom Brady.
Speaker 2: He can't can't watch practice.
Speaker 3: He can't watch he can't watch team.
Speaker 1: You know how they used to come and they watch
Speaker 1: the game, They watch your Friday practice, they call your
Speaker 1: game Sunday. Brady can't do that Now Eikman can't do that.
Speaker 1: They have to attend remotely, so they can't watch practice.
Speaker 1: And when they talk that they're gonna be via you
Speaker 1: know cam what they call that, skype whatever they call it.
Speaker 4: Man, what's up with all that? What I mean, just
Speaker 4: because they got relationship with the team, that mean they
Speaker 4: can't that is correct? Man, It don't make sense to me.
Speaker 4: It means what mean what they're saying? Because they're front
Speaker 4: office people.
Speaker 1: Therefore you get you gain an advantage if you're watching practice,
Speaker 1: you gain an advantage if you're talking to coach.
Speaker 3: I mean, like, hell, but that's their job, ain't there? Yeah?
Speaker 3: It is. But you got what you want, you gotta
Speaker 3: give up one you want to be. You want to
Speaker 3: be what you want to be in.
Speaker 1: The Raiders, you want to be an ownership with the Raiders,
Speaker 1: or you want to be you want to do broadcasting
Speaker 1: with Fox you want to be Are you want to
Speaker 1: do a broadcast for ESPN or you want to help
Speaker 1: the Dolphins try to get out of cap Hell and
Speaker 1: be a better team.
Speaker 4: They say, you choose one. Yeah, eight Man and Brady
Speaker 4: making a boat load, you know from broadcast. Yes, I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't know what they're making as far as part owner,
Speaker 4: but I'm sure it's probably sustainab Well, I.
Speaker 1: Think they brought they brought uh Troy Own as a consultant.
Speaker 1: Brady has an ownership stake in the Raiders. With that said,
Speaker 1: we know, look, we know Tom signed the ten year,
Speaker 1: three hundred and seventy five million dollar deal. We know
Speaker 1: Eightman signed basically a nineteen you know, five years, nineteen million.
Speaker 3: So whatever that adds up to.
Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on, hold on running the back though
Speaker 4: by Tom Brady, what was his numbers again?
Speaker 1: Ten for three seventy five to commentate, to call the game. Yep,
Speaker 1: he's the color guy. Well that's the hell of a job.
Speaker 3: Though.
Speaker 2: Hey, I need to try my hand and color commentation.
Speaker 3: Yeah sure, why not?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually got a probably I probably I'm like, damn.
Speaker 3: I curse to that. I mean that probably that will help.
Speaker 2: Would you say they're gonna suspend me show. It's gonna
Speaker 2: be exciting by be in that boot, put me in
Speaker 2: the put me in that boot. Watch watch what happened.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be exciting. I ain't gonna tell them what
Speaker 2: the hell. Ain't no telling what the hell I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3: Joe, Joe, it's gonna be something. I don't know what.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be.
Speaker 2: Something though, thank hey, I have everybody to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So.
Speaker 1: That's uh, that's what the lit's say. Look, if you
Speaker 1: want to if you want to do both, will allow
Speaker 1: you to do both. But these are the restrictions. These
Speaker 1: are the limitations that we're gonna place on you. And
Speaker 1: if you don't want it here to them, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to give up one. But Brady, you know, Brady man,
Speaker 1: ain't nobody giving over the damn near forty million dollars
Speaker 1: year job.
Speaker 3: And to work twenty weeks of damn here, that's two
Speaker 3: million dollars a week.
Speaker 1: That's only he that's come on now, then, come on, hey, please, Joe,
Speaker 1: who give it up that kind of job?
Speaker 3: Chance?
Speaker 1: Y'all give it up that couind of job. Y'all get
Speaker 1: up a job making forty million dollars, uh, for twenty weeks.
Speaker 3: Ain't nobody giving that up? Yeah?
Speaker 4: If I don't know what's going on, I'm gonna make
Speaker 4: like I know what's going on.
Speaker 3: Hear me?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Hey what hey? Hey Joe?
Speaker 1: They give each with they give each Why they give
Speaker 1: me forty million dollars for twenty weeks? I won't say
Speaker 1: foot or ball? Oh man, it won't be no more
Speaker 1: night here forty million? Hey, Hey, welcome to another episode
Speaker 1: of Black Camp.
Speaker 3: Have your host?
Speaker 1: I sold Joe Johnson and this is my partner and
Speaker 1: co host from Liberty City. Hey, the Liberty City Legia.
Speaker 1: They call him the Liberty City little, y'all, don't call him,
Speaker 1: call him liquor.
Speaker 2: Hey, you can't put that in.
Speaker 3: Ain't Ain't nobody gave you that kind of money?
Speaker 1: Man, I'm here with that cap. I'm here. I'm here
Speaker 1: like Chucky say, I'm here to the end. Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: I'm Chucky on the place why he.
Speaker 3: Used to be so togetered Chucky?
Speaker 2: Where Hey night, captain.
Speaker 1: Yeah nod, So y'all can see Joe Joe b one b,
Speaker 1: Joe b one b in the free in the free cap.
Speaker 4: Look, I still be in last place here if it's
Speaker 4: just being oh r here he got one two and
Speaker 4: I got he got he got the first two spots.
Speaker 3: My damn self.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe, I'm innocent, Joe. I'm telling any anything I'm
Speaker 2: doing this is from past experience, Joe. That's all I'm Joe.
Speaker 2: I'm old now, Joe. I can't I can't do none
Speaker 2: of that stuff I show you no more.
Speaker 1: Man. You know, the older, the older y'all get the
Speaker 1: freaking y'all get look at all hell he fit, whoa, whoa,
Speaker 1: what what I gotta do that?
Speaker 3: Joe? My black business, my bad on front? Now he quick,
Speaker 3: he quick, quick, tell Joe, why are you telling about business?
Speaker 1: You got to chill with that on Joe. But hey, chant,
Speaker 1: y'all see what y'all did. Y'all see how you put
Speaker 1: my business out there?
Speaker 2: My bad bad, Hey, Joe, Joe A nobody man. It's
Speaker 2: always the quiet ones. It's always the quiet ones.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, y'all see how Joe put my business out there? Quick,
Speaker 1: my bad, my bad, my band, I ain't gonna do
Speaker 1: it no more, my bad bad. Steve Smiths Senior says,
Speaker 1: your door Sanders has been getting less plays than DeShawn
Speaker 1: as he's slower to get the place going. Smittee says,
Speaker 1: I've heard that sometimes your door not running the same
Speaker 1: amount of plays because he gets to play in faster.
Speaker 1: He has to get the guys lined up. He's a
Speaker 1: little bit slower on that. Oh Joe, go to city
Speaker 1: to you first. What you're thinking, does that make sense?
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I mean when it comes to Smithy,
Speaker 2: I mean his credibility, you know, and with the people
Speaker 2: that he does know inside organizations, not just the Panthers
Speaker 2: in general. So there's probably some truth to it, and
Speaker 2: you know, in general, but that's something that's that's fixable,
Speaker 2: that's something that can be corrected. Obviously. That's the point
Speaker 2: of having practice, you know, get the plays in being
Speaker 2: able to call them fast and being able to make
Speaker 2: sure everybody's set up right before you go through your cadence,
Speaker 2: before you go through reading, reading, your progression and your defense,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, making your points and whatever you
Speaker 2: need to do once you as a quarterback, once you
Speaker 2: get to the line of scrimmage, just just tell all
Speaker 2: it is is telling the quarterback Listen, we need to
Speaker 2: speed up a little bit. You just Obviously the twenty
Speaker 2: four o'clock. They have the twenty four o'clock running in practice,
Speaker 2: the kind of gauge where you are when when players
Speaker 2: are coming in obviously, and it's also on the coordinator
Speaker 2: be able to get the plays in fast enough. So yeah,
Speaker 2: all of that collectively is intertwined between coach and player
Speaker 2: and not just not just your door.
Speaker 3: And maybe that's a.
Speaker 4: Maybe that's a development stage for for young fellowship, do
Speaker 4: you know, Maybe it's just something he has to kind
Speaker 4: of experience and go through. I think he'll get better,
Speaker 4: you know, as as as the season goes along, or
Speaker 4: or as his reps increase.
Speaker 3: Oho, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: You don't know the head space this young man is
Speaker 4: in considering the fact that he's coming out and competing
Speaker 4: day in and day out against the Sean to try
Speaker 4: and see who's gonna end up being a starting quarterback.
Speaker 4: But I don't, I mean, I don't, I don't make
Speaker 4: I don't see no big deal in it. But I'm
Speaker 4: like you oo, I take what Steve Smith says. You know,
Speaker 4: it's it's respectable. Yeah, it's it's tough.
Speaker 1: He's still a young quarterback, Yeah, trying to figure this
Speaker 1: thing out, trying to be trying to be perfect. And
Speaker 1: the thing is is, like most quarterbacks, they feel that
Speaker 1: they can go in there and play the game, be free.
Speaker 1: He knows he can't make mistakes. It's hard playing like that.
Speaker 1: It's hard. It's hard when you're under man and you know,
Speaker 1: if you make a mistake, O, Joe, that might be
Speaker 1: the difference in Joe, that might be the difference in you.
Speaker 3: Hell, you might not see the field again. Thanks. Yeah, but.
Speaker 1: It's that's that's a tough that's a tough position to
Speaker 1: be in. You definitely got to get the plays in
Speaker 1: because that clock starts and if they they're slow.
Speaker 3: Getting the ball in.
Speaker 1: He was like, if you notice, like Mahomes, as soon
Speaker 1: as that plays, soon did somebody get tackled? He over
Speaker 1: there doing this right here, Come on, give.
Speaker 3: It to me, not damn.
Speaker 2: Hey, Joe, he gonna the place still going on.
Speaker 3: He liked this.
Speaker 2: Ye, give me the next give it, yes, because some
Speaker 2: time you get in time to see everything in front
Speaker 2: of him.
Speaker 3: He not rushing, not rushing.
Speaker 2: So anytime a quarterback can get that officer line up
Speaker 2: early and you got fifteen seconds on the clock, that
Speaker 2: gives you plenty of time to assess what you need
Speaker 2: to not only offensively making sure everybody's in the right place,
Speaker 2: but also seeing.
Speaker 1: Defensively any audibles that I might need to make. Any
Speaker 1: adjustments that I need to make, I can make those
Speaker 1: in the time of the matter, because the last thing
Speaker 1: I want to be doing I'm getting to the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage with ten and now by the time I
Speaker 1: get set up, I send the guy in motion.
Speaker 3: I might want to make an adjustment.
Speaker 1: I can't make it a damn adjustment because you didn't
Speaker 1: get to get the play in till fifteen seconds. By
Speaker 1: the time I got it and called it and we
Speaker 1: broke the huddle, it's nine ten seconds. By the time
Speaker 1: we got to the line, it's seven six six seven seconds.
Speaker 1: And now you want me to go through blue seventeen,
Speaker 1: blue seventeen, going to motion.
Speaker 3: Time out? What happened you?
Speaker 1: Your slow ass took too long to get the damn playing.
Speaker 1: That's what happened. Hey, hustle up here, Hustle to the line.
Speaker 3: Hustle to the line.
Speaker 1: But because of the offensive coordinator, basically, you don't really
Speaker 1: get a chance to enjoy the game, won't Joe. You
Speaker 1: call the play, you might look come and see what
Speaker 1: they here. You gotta be in your call sheet to
Speaker 1: see what it is. Hey, if somebody feed you what
Speaker 1: what down is it? Second and five? Second and five
Speaker 1: second to five? Now you're going to the second and
Speaker 1: five call sheet? Okay, yeah, uh run red right red
Speaker 1: right uh z short two jet FLAKEL driver red right
Speaker 1: to jet z short two jet FLAKEL drive on one
Speaker 1: ready break?
Speaker 3: What down is? What down? Is it? It's close? Is
Speaker 3: it the first? Is it the first? Damn it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: What do you mean?
Speaker 3: You think it's a fumble? Is that a should we
Speaker 3: challenge it?
Speaker 1: They got a hundred They got a hundred things going on,
Speaker 1: so it's not either quarterback just think they just call
Speaker 1: the play. When they try to get everything situated, they
Speaker 1: try to ay, what's the dot to Hey, can we
Speaker 1: get a measurement? No?
Speaker 3: Man, come on, we get a measurement. That's closed. That's close.
Speaker 3: That's a first down.
Speaker 1: But I'm just trying. I'm just trying to get to stop,
Speaker 1: trying to get him stop the clock. I know they
Speaker 1: ain't no damn first down? That ball the Dawn Foot Show.
Speaker 2: My favorite story under Joe is when I was in
Speaker 2: New England and another reason I got a better understanding
Speaker 2: on why they why they win so much, why they're
Speaker 2: so consistent year in and year out, is when it
Speaker 2: comes to practice. Everything was perfect. Everything was perfect, and
Speaker 2: you had to go consecutive plays without messing up or
Speaker 2: you'd be starting over. Not practice in general, but that
Speaker 2: specific period, you know, period in twelve plays, but um
Speaker 2: ten twelve they got to be perfect.
Speaker 3: Remember one time.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna tell a whole story, but I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna tell a little bit of it. And I think
Speaker 2: I told you before. But Bill O'Brien his mic wasn't working.
Speaker 2: The call, get the player, just like all right now?
Speaker 2: And Tom and Tom, I can't hear give me the
Speaker 2: play again? And Bill said the player, I mean not Bill.
Speaker 2: Bill O'Brien said to play again, and Tom looked again
Speaker 2: and said, give me the god damn play. And boy,
Speaker 2: Bill O'Brien, man, I gave you the f and play already.
Speaker 3: Well, I didn't ever get it.
Speaker 2: And boy he Uncle Joe him and Tom going back
Speaker 2: and forth.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you intermedi any time coachin Belichick. No, they'll
Speaker 1: figure it out, hey.
Speaker 2: And Belichick got his whistle around his finger doing like this.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, it's normal. We started the period over.
Speaker 2: They got the mic working. We went through all twelve
Speaker 2: plays and every last right, Hey, hey, that was that
Speaker 2: was you don't I don't you didn't. I didn't see
Speaker 2: anything like that.
Speaker 3: No, no, hey, O Joe Brady the man greatness on
Speaker 3: O Joe and Joe. That's how they were.
Speaker 1: That's how it wasn't there, bro, Joe Ellis GiB Hey
Speaker 1: getting no getting the f and huddle. I'm like, hold on,
Speaker 1: why are you telling TD cut back? I was like, TV,
Speaker 1: why you listening to him? He ain't running no running back?
Speaker 1: Shot the f up eighty four? How you gonna tell?
Speaker 1: How you gonna tell? TV? He's just the best running
Speaker 1: back in the game, and you telling him what he
Speaker 1: should have done? Man, get your old last night this
Speaker 1: huddle did He threatened me with sixteen power because that's
Speaker 1: the only way to get me sixty powers basically against
Speaker 1: the overfront. That mean I gotta block that big, big
Speaker 1: gas defensive end by myself. Joe, Hey, let me say, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the work. Oh yeah, the sixteen power. I called House, Hey, House,
Speaker 1: come get this one right here. My Neil little son,
Speaker 1: my Neil little sore. Hey, ain't six power?
Speaker 3: Then? Ain't I look that big d with that bad
Speaker 3: oh boy. Yeah, Hall Fan and Jr.
Speaker 1: Had high praise for Brown's rookie Denzel Boston and Casey Concepts.
Speaker 3: You on.
Speaker 1: Uh, you could definitely tell night and day difference in
Speaker 1: the weapons. You can tell that them boys are special. Honestly,
Speaker 1: it makes me work even harder because you get to
Speaker 1: watch them work so hard, just kind of building off
Speaker 1: each other, off rip Casey concept. You on the Denzel
Speaker 1: Boston or some go getters, they go get they go
Speaker 1: and get it done. They go out there and execute.
Speaker 1: You can talk about Denzel in my mind, he has
Speaker 1: the highest ceiling. I'm watching him and I'm like, that
Speaker 1: guy's somebody special.
Speaker 3: Case too.
Speaker 1: I didn't know how he was that fast. He can move,
Speaker 1: he can jump too, great ball tracking skills.
Speaker 3: Oh Jo.
Speaker 1: Remember we had Ksey on, a guy that's worked his
Speaker 1: way through a speech and pet Joe uh uh uh.
Speaker 1: We had him on last year. He had a speech
Speaker 1: impediment and we finally got him to open up. We
Speaker 1: started making some jokes and he was having a good time,
Speaker 1: but he was hey. We watched him at Texas A
Speaker 1: and M We got an opportunity to see him a
Speaker 1: couple of times because obviously, uh, Texas A and M
Speaker 1: was a good team that were on a lot. We
Speaker 1: also had Johnny Manziel. But uh, that's that's how I
Speaker 1: praise the two rookies. And that's what you gotta have.
Speaker 1: You gotta have guys that can go get it done
Speaker 1: because for so long they've been ineffective in that area.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, they need they need playing. You gotta have
Speaker 1: playmakers there all that other stuff I know you gotta have,
Speaker 1: but you gotta got guys that you can put the
Speaker 1: ball up and they gonna make plays. Put the ball
Speaker 1: in his hands and let me go make a difference,
Speaker 1: let me be a difference maker.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think the last time that Browns had
Speaker 2: a difference maker with yes, for sure.
Speaker 3: I don't know what.
Speaker 2: I don't know what year that was.
Speaker 3: Joe.
Speaker 2: You ever seen Josh Gordon play?
Speaker 3: Yes? Oh my god, he was special. Hey. I like
Speaker 3: the fact that he said, those young guys make him
Speaker 3: w work harder. Bro.
Speaker 4: You know, when you got good talent guys who come
Speaker 4: in ready to work, ready to prove themselves. Man, he
Speaker 4: can rub about some guys that you never would even imagine.
Speaker 4: You know what, I mean so for him saying, like
Speaker 4: to see them guys how hard they work and how
Speaker 4: fast they are, it makes me work harder. Like I
Speaker 4: enjoy hearing stuff like that, because a rookie can motivate
Speaker 4: a guy who's already been in the league or a
Speaker 4: betching guy that's been in the league.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like Hal Fanner Junior's game. I think he
Speaker 1: has I think he has the potential to be really
Speaker 1: really special. I think he can be really really really good.
Speaker 1: He had that kind of he showed some promise last Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can run, can high point the football, great runner,
Speaker 1: you know, great transition, can get in and out of breaks.
Speaker 1: That's what I look for as a tight end. How
Speaker 1: how seamlessly does he get in and out of breaks?
Speaker 1: How well does he transition? All the other stuff I
Speaker 1: can teach you. I can teach you that other stuff.
Speaker 1: I can teach you, you know, the concentration and catch
Speaker 1: the football. But if you can't get in and out
Speaker 1: of breaks, if you choppy, if you tell Tipping Ross off.
Speaker 3: Hey, do y'all think that's why they let what's his
Speaker 3: name in Joku? They let? Is that why? That's probably
Speaker 3: why he let him go. Yeah, he was injured a lot.
Speaker 2: That you go unless they know the person behind you
Speaker 2: is gonna be able to fill the position and give
Speaker 2: you that same production or even more. And they got damn.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they came to the Cleveland Browns outside of
Speaker 2: your door being in bright spot that everybody wanted to watch.
Speaker 2: He was a bright spot when the cane and production
Speaker 2: and make the play weekend and we got until he
Speaker 2: got And.
Speaker 3: He's probably a whole hell of a lot cheaper too. Yeah,
Speaker 3: for sure.
Speaker 1: On the rookie contract. Look, the rookies that that that
Speaker 1: that Cleveland had, they played really well. Remember the linebacker
Speaker 1: was defensive player, the defensive Rookie of the Year. Oh
Speaker 1: Joe swearing I think it's swear swearing Jr.
Speaker 3: Or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he was different. He was defensive Rookie
Speaker 1: of the Year. Hallw fan and Junior was unbelievable. Your
Speaker 1: door came in and when he got an opportunity to play,
Speaker 1: he played really well. They got they got some guys
Speaker 1: that can that can hopefully make some plays. And now
Speaker 1: they got to the drafted two more guys. Uh, they
Speaker 1: need players. I don't give damn who the quarterback is.
Speaker 1: You better have somebody that can throw the ball to
Speaker 1: and can make it happen, because that's what the football is.
Speaker 1: It's about, Hey, putting the ball in your playmaker's hand
Speaker 1: and let them make plays.
Speaker 3: The sooner I can get it to you, the better
Speaker 3: off i'm gonna be. Hello.