1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: I think that that is the difference between those who 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: are good and great, you know what I mean. I 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: think a good player they'll go into the game expecting like, oh, 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get the sack right here, and they don't 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: get the sack, and then they don't ever think about 6 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: it again. But the great players are the ones that are, oh, 7 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: he got me this time, but the next, the next one, 8 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: the next one, the next play, the next play, the 9 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: next play. 10 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: The Next Man Up Podcast is presented by Lansdown Resort 11 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: from kickoff to checking you score, game change and get 12 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: away in the heart of Lounders. Lansdown Resort, proud partner 13 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 2: of the Washington Commanders. Welcome into the Next Man Up 14 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: and Happy holidays, Commanders family. I'm your holdt Brian Corwa 15 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: Junior here from the Big Bear AI Command Center studio 16 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: and on the Next Man Up. Been here before, but 17 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 2: his first time on Next Man Up as a player 18 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 2: is before you was a free agent. You just came 19 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: to this building. You just signed pen to Faithfoot, just 20 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: got your bag. Now you're here, man, got a big 21 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 2: smile on your face. 22 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 3: And how you feeling dump. 23 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: Blessed man, blessed, extremely honored for y'all to have it 24 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: back on you know, uh, exumely honored to be put 25 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: place in this position. 26 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, blessed, Yeah. 27 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: Blessed is an understatement, brother, because it's been dope to 28 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: see what you were able to accomplish and being here, 29 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: because I remember last time when you came in you 30 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: talked about being traded multiple times, trying to find a home, 31 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 2: trying to find an opportunity. That it looks like you 32 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 2: found a good home here and a good opportunity. Would 33 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: you agree, Yeah? Yeah. How do you feel about this 34 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 2: coaching staff, this defensive staff, trusting. 35 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 3: You the way that they have this year? 36 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: Because man, we have had injury after injury, but you 37 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: came in. It's that true next man up and became 38 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: a bright spot for this man. 39 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 3: How dope was that for you? 40 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: It's been awesome, man, it's been awesome to have that support, 41 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: that belief, you know, and my abilities. Obviously I came 42 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: in knowing what I was capable of, you know, but 43 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: to have the confidence of like your peers, you know, 44 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: whether it be your teammates or your coaches, in collaboration 45 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: in terms of what we're trying to accomplish on each call, 46 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: that's been tremendous, you know what I mean. And just 47 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: the shout out to the coach in the d line room, 48 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: you know, Reef tap r K, even Bond Preston. You know, 49 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a good good crew to 50 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: pick their minds that played a lot of football, been 51 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: a lot of big situations, you know, done things assistently 52 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: right throughout their career. 53 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: And some of those names you name those future Gold jackets, 54 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: some of them, you know, those are Hall of famers, 55 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: those are some of the best to have ever done it. 56 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: How valuable is that to be in a building like 57 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: this right because you don't really know what you're getting 58 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: when you signed to a place. Would you come into 59 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: a building with all these x NFL players, x NFL stars, 60 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: What has that been like for you? 61 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: In your development? 62 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: It's been huge, huge, man. You know, whether it be 63 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: on field development, off the field development. You know, I 64 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: talked to Von every day, you know, whether I'm texting 65 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: them or calling them or facetiming them his lockers right 66 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: across from mind. You know, whether it be business ventures, 67 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: football ventures, or watching tape late at night, like you know, 68 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: text Ryan in the morning and he made you know, 69 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: he got the kids and stuff at the house, so 70 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: he may text me back or tap. They may text 71 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: me back the next day, you know, once they get home. 72 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: They you know, family, which I respect, you know what 73 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: I mean. So like just being able to reach out 74 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: like from them to answer my questions or ask questions, 75 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and like that it's real collaborative, 76 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You don't really get that 77 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: in a lot of places where they're trying to figure out, Okay, 78 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: if I see it this way, you know, how how 79 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: can they coach me to see it how they want 80 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: me to see it? Or if they didn't see it 81 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: that way, can they go ask a question you know, 82 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: to DQ and he'll come back with the response for us? 83 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 4: You know So I think that's super dope. 84 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: And it's funny you mentioned Vaughn because like, even sitting 85 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 2: here listening to you talk, I'm like you and Vaughn 86 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: are actually very similar. You'll a very similar mindset, y'all, 87 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: very similar demeanors and personalities. 88 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 3: And I know, just like me, we've been watching Vaughn forever, 89 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: way before we got into this building. 90 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: What was it like when he does come into this 91 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: building and he is your peer now, right, because yet 92 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: we look up to this guy, we've watched him for years. 93 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: What has it been like being his peer? And was 94 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: it tough asking him those first questions? 95 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 3: Or did you just die? 96 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 4: Right? 97 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: I know some people they get a little nervous, get 98 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: a little shot while they see there, you know, somebody 99 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: that's like they idle. 100 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: What was it like for you? You know, Van and 101 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: I are passive, you know, crossed. We've looked weirdly, been 102 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: connected in so many different ways, you know, before we 103 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: were teammates, you know. So it's asking them questions, whether 104 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: it'd be a good question or a bad question, you know, 105 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: I just ask him, you know, and if it's dumb, 106 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: he may laugh at me or something like that. Or 107 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: just his thought process. Man, he thinks a lot differently 108 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: than most people would assume, you know, And I think 109 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: that's part of the reason why he's a Hall of 110 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: Famer man, Like truthfully, like the way he thinks. 111 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 4: The way he sees things, this positive outlook. 112 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: You know, even if you mess up or have an 113 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: m A or emmy you know, for those that don't know, 114 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: a mental error or emmy like a or te like 115 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: a technique error those kind of situations. So like his 116 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: ability to like, yeah, I get you took a bad 117 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: step here, but they get off was great. You know 118 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, just finding that positive so you're not. 119 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: I think that that is the difference between those who 120 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: are good and great, you know what I mean. I 121 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: think a good player they'll go into the game expecting like, oh, 122 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get the sack right here, and they don't 123 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: get the sack, and then they don't ever think about 124 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: it again. But the great players are the ones that are, oh, 125 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: he got me this time, but the next the next one, 126 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: the next one, the next play, the next play, the 127 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: next play, you. 128 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 4: Know what I mean. 129 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: That's the that's their that's their mindset, you know what 130 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: I mean. I think just hearing him, hearing him say 131 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: stuff like that, or just the little pointers of his 132 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: mindset in games or situations, man, that is that's truly changed. 133 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: Like how I I've always kind of thought that way, 134 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: but not confirmed. Okay, it's okay for me to think 135 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: this way, you know. 136 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it shows on the field. Yeah, five and 137 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: a half sacks and you ain't done yet. We still 138 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: got a few games left. What is going right for 139 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 2: Jacob Martin here in the Burgundy and Gold. 140 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 4: Really is the testament to my preparation. You know. 141 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: I try to be as consistent as I possibly can. 142 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: You know, almost OCD is in terms of my preparation. 143 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 4: Every week. 144 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: I try to make sure I'm doing the same things 145 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: every week, you know, to make sure my body and 146 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: my mind and my game are right going into whether 147 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: it be a Thursday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday game, you know 148 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: what other case may be. I try to replicate that 149 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: process every week, you know, and try to ask those 150 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: questions every week and really just trying to understand what 151 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: we're trying to accomplish on each call. I think that's 152 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: also helped me play faster, for sure. 153 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: Use the word consistency. There's not a lot of consistency 154 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 2: in life. There's not a lot of consistenty in the NFL, 155 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: and you've kind of been a testament to that this 156 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,799 Speaker 2: year because your role has not been consistent. 157 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 3: You come in, it's a crowded defensive. 158 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: Line room, right, we got guys ahead of you and 159 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: Durrance Armstrong wise, but then the season progresses and God's 160 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: fall injury after injury, and your role becomes less of 161 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 2: a rotation guy and now you're an every down guy. 162 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: You're a guy that we need desperately. How was the 163 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: patience while you're waiting for this role to develop, while 164 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 2: you're waiting to get these more snaps, because I know 165 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: you want to be on that field all the time, 166 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 2: but you had to wait a little bit. 167 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: What was that patience? 168 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: Like, you know, I think that's really where I built 169 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: my process. I would say, you know, coming off the 170 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: bench or being a rotational guy or a DPR guy, 171 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: you know, that has allowed me to like have both views. 172 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: I would guess, like as a as a you know, 173 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: DPR designate pass rusher, you know, you don't necessarily have 174 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: the opportunity always to set up your rush, right, so 175 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: you've got to throw throw your best one, right And 176 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: similar to this process, Like, Okay, I came in, I 177 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: was playing Sam, so I was doing a little bit 178 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: more for a second down type of work, red lower, 179 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: red zone type of work when we in big personnels, 180 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But I think that allowed me 181 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: to hone in even more on my process, right, Okay, 182 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: I can understand the process of the play. I can 183 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: understand the process of whether it be Joe or dq like, 184 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: you know, installing the defense or making a tweak on 185 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: the defense. And it allowed me to understand their thought 186 00:07:55,120 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: process on what they want to accomplish. And you know, unfortunately, 187 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: you know, we had guys you know, go down and 188 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: stuff like that. But I never took my mindset off 189 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: of Okay, let's let's go through the process. Let's own 190 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: this this role. You know, I think it's another big 191 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: thing I first came in. You know, we would be 192 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: out there stretch lines and you know, Tap has you know, 193 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: his little mantras for guys every day, you know what 194 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: I mean, And for me, he always can tell me, 195 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: you know, Jmar own it, own it, go out there 196 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: and own own that spot like, own it like. 197 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 4: And I took that wholeheartedly. 198 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: You know, I'm going to own the spot, right So 199 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: that to me, that meant, Okay, I'm control with things 200 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: I can control. I can't control when I'm getting into 201 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: the game. I can't control if my number is going 202 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: to be called, when my number is going to be called, 203 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: But I can know I can control being prepared, being 204 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: locked into the situation, and understanding my role and my 205 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: assignment to the utmost to the up utmost of my ability, 206 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: you know, And I think that's that's kind of where 207 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: where I'm where I where I like to stay in 208 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: that pocket, you know, control things you can control because 209 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: you can't control, you know, guys getting hurt. You can't 210 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: control you know, whether you're gonna play or not. I 211 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: think a lot of young players, there are players that 212 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: may be in situations where they're up and down on 213 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: the roster, or even they may be a core special 214 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: teams guy. You know what I mean, owning your role, 215 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: whether wherever your your your number is called, wherever you're 216 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: asked or tasked to do. You know, no job is 217 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: too big, no job is too small. But being able 218 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: to accept that role and own it, you know, and 219 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: then if your role changes, okay, roll with the punches, 220 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: own the next role, you know what I mean. So 221 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 1: just staying in that pocket of I can control what 222 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: I can control. I can control my effort. I can 223 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: control knowing and doing my job. I can control my physicality. 224 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: I can control how I arrive to to to work. 225 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: I can control how I'm uh perceived as a as 226 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: a professional, you know what I mean. And in controlling 227 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: those things in terms of okay, showing up on time, 228 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: doing the extra work. And these aren't things that are 229 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: that are new for me. It's something I've always done. 230 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: But but to have that I guess validation here. 231 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 4: It's been nice. 232 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 3: And you say own your role. Your role is a 233 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: lot bigger. 234 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: Now, especially in these last few games we're playing these 235 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 2: NFC supponents. What do you feel your role is and 236 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 2: how do you own it? Like if a young player 237 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 2: comes to you and says, what's your role? Teach me 238 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: what that means? When coach tells me to own it? 239 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 2: What would you say? 240 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: I think there's there's two parts of that, right, Understanding 241 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: what the what you're trying to accomplish in the call, right, 242 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: So if the call requires you to drop into coverage, okay, 243 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: how can I own my role in coverage? 244 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 4: Right? 245 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: So that's knowing where I need to be in certain 246 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: fronts or against certain looks and owning that space. 247 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 4: Right. 248 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: So if you're dropping strong hook, you know it's ten 249 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: to twelve plus one of the hash that doesn't change, 250 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So let me be demonstrative 251 00:10:55,320 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: in how I perform that task right and doing it 252 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: with urgency. I think that's that's another thing, you know 253 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: what I mean? Because you know, players are gonna mess up, 254 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: coaches are gonna mess up. That happens with football man 255 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: and nobody perfect. But if you can understand that doing 256 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: stuff with urgency and playing fast, you know that eliminates 257 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: a lot of things. But I think understanding the purpose, right, 258 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: the why of doing something in a call, I think 259 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: that's just as important as that that that allows you 260 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: to own your role even out even that more right, 261 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: you know, as a teammate or as a as a player, 262 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: you want to care like I like, you know, temples 263 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: ingrained into me. You know, we had a we had 264 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: a player mantra, you know what I mean, and one 265 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: of the things was like I will care for my teammates, right, 266 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: and caring for your teammates to me is okay, this 267 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: opportunity for whether it be McGhee or Oose or Bobby 268 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: or Kwan or Mike, you know what I mean, If 269 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: they have a blitz or something like that and it's 270 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: required for the d N or the D line to 271 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: slant or stay high or stay vert or be in 272 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: this pocket, you know what I mean, so they have 273 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: their moment right, like I'm doing this for. 274 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 4: Them, right. My wife for being so demonstrative and how 275 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 4: I arrive or or. 276 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: Perform a certain tasks, like because I want my guy 277 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: to eat, Like my why is okay, I got to 278 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: I gotta take these three steps up the field so 279 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: oos can get free or Bobby can get free. And 280 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: then I got dropping the coverage to buy him time 281 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: to get to the sack, you know what I mean? Like 282 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: those that's how I think you know what I mean, 283 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: And I think that's important to understand the why, then 284 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: you can understand the purpose of the call. If you 285 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: can understand the why and the purpose of the call, 286 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: you can control a lot of things. 287 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 2: Say like a true commander, sait like a true leader. 288 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 2: And I know you lead by example. And another part 289 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: of leading is also showing these guys how to shut 290 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: it down sometimes and how to relax and. 291 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 3: Spend down time. 292 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 2: And all partners that landsdown resort like to know y'all 293 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: getting done on the field. But that's y'all also get 294 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: it from downtown too, So normally I ask how do 295 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 2: people spending downtown? But you just told me you just 296 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 2: got you a nice little gift from me, teammate, a 297 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: little crossbow. 298 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: Have you used the crossbow before? 299 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 4: No, It's my first crossbow, so I'm excited to sell 300 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 4: this guy. 301 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 2: So how do you plan on using this cross But 302 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 2: what's what's the plan? 303 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 4: I don't know. 304 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: I need a backyard first. I don't have a backyard 305 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: out here. I'm in the townhouse, so me too. So 306 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: I once I you know, once the season is over, 307 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: I may spend some time trying to figure out how 308 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: to use the crossbow in the backyard. 309 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 3: Have you hunted? 310 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I have hunted. I have hunted it. 311 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: You know, I'm a very avid hunter. 312 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, honestly, I'm not surprised because you 313 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 2: be hunting on that field. 314 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 3: You be hunting for those sacks. 315 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 2: Like I said, you got five and a half sacks now, 316 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: but we know more are coming these NFC East opponents. 317 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 2: It's been kind of crazy because our last four games 318 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 2: have been all NFC East. You didn't really get a 319 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 2: taste of that before coming here, and now you've gotten 320 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: to see it. You've gotten to see the difference because 321 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 2: everbody talks about these difference in those games. Can you 322 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: speak on that and what it's been like being able 323 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 2: to compete at the highest level against some. 324 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 3: Of the best teams in the NFL. 325 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: I'm just say there's a lot of historic French sides 326 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: franchises in this division. You know, a lot of heavy 327 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: hitters in this division, you know what I mean, a 328 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: lot of physical football. When you think of you know, 329 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:15,599 Speaker 1: the NFC, you think of cold, you think of outdoor games, 330 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: you think of physical football. You know, you think physical 331 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: running game, physical bags, big offensivelignment, you know, so that 332 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: that's that's what you think. And then you just have 333 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: historic organizations that that are in this in this this conference, 334 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: this division. 335 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 4: You know. 336 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: So for me, it's like I kind of looked at 337 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: myself as a hired hitman my whole career, you know 338 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: what I mean, hitman for higher So like it's easy 339 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: for me, I think I approach the game every week 340 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: is as if it's a rivalry game. That's just how 341 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: my mind works, you know. So it's not necessarily I'm 342 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: getting even more up for you know, these division games 343 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But I know that they're gonna 344 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: give me their best because of it's the division, you 345 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I I love I love 346 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: stuff like that, you know what I mean. I love 347 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: knowing that I'm going to get your best shot. You 348 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: know what I mean, because you're going to get mine. 349 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: So like, so I love that, man. You know, I've 350 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: always I've always admired, you know, the football that's played. 351 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 4: In this this division. 352 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, There's been some great football players, 353 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: uh to to walk not only these halls, but the 354 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: halls of other other buildings. Man, that that I you know, 355 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: grew up watching. 356 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 4: Man, So like I can't I'm not gonna mention nobody. 357 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 3: But but I got you. 358 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: But uh but uh but yeah, man, So like I 359 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: I've always been tied, like locked in in terms of 360 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: this division. You know, there's there's been I've been a 361 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: big fan of a lot of players in this division. 362 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 2: And I'm sure you've gotten a ton of fans this year, man, 363 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: Jacob Martin. I don't think too many people knew what 364 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 2: we were getting with you, but now they know, and 365 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: now they want you here and they want to keep 366 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 2: you here in this Burgundy and gold. 367 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 3: Jacob. 368 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: We appreciate your time so much. And also, happy holidays, 369 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 2: my brother, thank you. I'm expecting my crossbow on the 370 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 2: man shot commanded Family, our next man five and a 371 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: half sex already he is just getting started. 372 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 3: My god, Jacob, Martin. 373 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 4: Appreciate you, Bro, appreciate you. But dot boom happy Holladays everybody. 374 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: Commanders family, We hope you have been enjoying. Next man up. 375 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: Before we go any further, we have to pay some 376 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: bills now. Events DC is a proud partner of the 377 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 2: Washington Commanders. 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That's how 398 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 2: you make impact on the world around you. It's your time. 399 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 2: How you spend it is up to you. It's your time. 400 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 2: The US Army Reserve. Command his family back to the show, 401 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 2: Command his family for our next man up. I don't 402 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 2: even got to intro them. He's your favorite, he's my 403 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 2: favorite to work well welcome. It did alleged it himself 404 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 2: on the field and off the field for us when 405 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 2: my brother was good. 406 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 5: It's the holiday, that's what's good. Can you know as 407 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 5: parents it's fathers. Yes, they say it's more about giving 408 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 5: than receiving. And when it's an only child. I didn't 409 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 5: really figure that out. I was like, nah, Mama, I 410 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,479 Speaker 5: don't think I'm ever gonna feel that way. But now 411 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 5: when I give and watch my kids smile on Christmas, 412 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 5: no matter what's going on, the fact that. 413 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 3: We ain't one before games and what's going on. 414 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 5: That doesn't bother me for this small win though, because 415 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 5: the holidays do make you focus in on the things 416 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 5: that really do matter. 417 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 2: And that's why I wanted to have you on this 418 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 2: episode because yes, like there's not a lot of great 419 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 2: football to talk about, right, we have a four win team. However, 420 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: you have seen the ebbs and flows. I've been a 421 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: part of it. You've been a part of it. You've 422 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 2: been a part of great teams, been a part of 423 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 2: not so great teams. When you look at what this 424 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 2: team's going through, right, because this is essentially year two 425 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: of the rebuild, right, year two for Jay and Daniels, 426 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 2: year two for dan Quinn, how are you feeling about 427 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: the team, And like where we stand right now, I'm grounded. 428 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 5: I understand the ebby flow of football. We all won 429 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 5: injury away, we won bad bounce away. And think about it, 430 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 5: this year, no matter what game's been, the ball has 431 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 5: just not bounced our way. 432 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 3: Last year, the ball bounced out wait a lot. 433 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 5: And now we're sitting back and we're watching the New 434 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 5: England Patriots and Drake may do what we did last year. 435 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 5: We're watching the Chicago Bears do what we did last year. 436 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 5: And now we're sitting in the background, and now we're 437 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 5: mumbling amongst each other. About how bad we hate the situation. 438 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 5: But I was always taught tough times don't last. Tough 439 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 5: people do yes. And we got to eight when you 440 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 5: offended them, when you have fended them, It's very much 441 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 5: similar to a relationship. I wish I could tell you 442 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 5: every day with your wife gonna be good days. You 443 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 5: know where ain't gonna be like that. But guess what, 444 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 5: it's the hard days that make y'all know y'all meant 445 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 5: to be together, right, because it's figuring it takes no 446 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 5: energy to enjoy good day. It takes a lot of 447 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 5: energy to figure out the bad ones. And the bad 448 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 5: ones make you appreciate your partner way more than a 449 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 5: good one. And it's what you do with the hard 450 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 5: time suit right, it's how you use them, how you 451 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 5: manifest because losses can't be lessons, especially when you are 452 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 5: a young team. When you have been in these situations 453 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 5: where wins weren't necessarily coming, players would developing, Young guys 454 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 5: would develop, And what is that message in the locker 455 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 5: room to understand, like, hey, we got to make the 456 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 5: most of this time. Well, we got this bad taste 457 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 5: in that mouth, do you ever want to taste this again? 458 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 5: Because I don't want to taste this again. How did 459 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 5: we get here? That's what we ask ourselves first. How 460 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 5: did we end up at this spot? Because in the 461 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 5: beginning of every season, every team think they going seventeen 462 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 5: and oh, knowing none of us going seventeen and oh, 463 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 5: when we look at that schedule, we don't see no 464 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 5: thing that we say a loss, right, we don't pick loses. 465 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 5: We look at the schedules that we're gonna win each 466 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 5: and every game. We're gonna take it one player at 467 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 5: a time. Well, guess what, some seasons start to unravel. 468 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 5: This season had start to unravel, and now we're looking around. 469 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 5: We're looking for answers. When you gotta look inside, you 470 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 5: gotta look in this locker room. We are the answer. 471 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 5: We weren't healthy. What can we do this off season 472 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 5: to make sure we donna go back through this again? 473 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 5: What can I do as a player to protect myself? 474 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 5: What can my other team may do to get much faster? 475 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 5: Did much stronger? Understand that much more of the game plan. 476 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 5: It's all about internally looking and saying we're gonna fix 477 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 5: it inside. Looking outside, I ain't gonna get the job done. 478 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 5: And I hate to say this. It takes a little 479 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 5: luck for good seasons to have. If we saw that 480 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 5: last year, the ball gotta bounce your way in health, 481 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 5: the ball gotta bounce your weight on the field, the 482 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 5: ball gotta bounce your way with scheduling, The ball gotta 483 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 5: bounce your weight in so many variables in here that 484 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 5: everything has to add up and be a perfect storm. 485 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 5: And this year, that perfect storm has been a hurricane. 486 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 5: And listen, and it's drowned in the city right now, 487 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 5: and everybody miss, I totally understand. But the good part 488 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 5: we live to fight another day. And the thing I 489 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 5: can say is if you ever gonna get a win, 490 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 5: it needs to be against the cowboys. 491 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 2: Amen. 492 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 5: You know, especially while they intact. We are not intact, right, 493 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 5: we are not in We're gonna have our struggle. We 494 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 5: got so many gaffs to feel where they were they 495 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 5: coming in here with Dak George Pick and City lamb furcusing. Uh, 496 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 5: they are intact and they're ready to go, and they 497 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 5: ain't gonna take it easy on us. We need to 498 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 5: be there on Christmas Day and understand, and I know 499 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 5: a lot of people got their Christmas preod. They're gonna 500 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 5: open it up and it's gonna be tickets tickets to 501 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 5: the Dallas Cowboys and the Washington Commander's game. You need 502 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 5: to take those tickets, go to Northwest Stadium where I 503 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 5: will see you, be seeing see you, and let's finish 504 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 5: what we started. 505 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 3: We started this year. 506 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 5: It hasn't went the way we want to go, but 507 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 5: you got to finish what you start, no matter what 508 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 5: I tell my kids did all the time. 509 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 2: And because there's a pride to it too, right, Yeah, 510 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 2: Like there has to be a pride there. And I 511 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 2: think people are like, oh, what are you playing for? 512 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 2: They talking about draft all those different things, but that's 513 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 2: not the case when you're a player. And like I 514 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 2: look at our secondary. You talk about all those weapons. 515 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 2: Our secondary, man, they've probably gone through it the worst 516 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 2: as far as injuries go. We lose two starters, but 517 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 2: we have a guy Mikey Sanders. Yeah really man ready 518 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 2: to play four interceptions already. I saw a lists today 519 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 2: actually and had Mikey Santas on there and at the 520 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: bottom they had fresh Smoothcuse you had five in the season, yes, 521 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: four maybe a get there? 522 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 3: Man? How cool would that be to see him hit 523 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 3: that milestone? Because you know how tough. 524 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 5: No, it's hard to do, and I think it'll be 525 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 5: good for him because I think what he is out 526 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 5: to prove the people is I'm an outside corner. Y'all 527 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 5: want to pincheonhole me and want me to because of 528 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 5: my size. Like how visually look I look like a nickel. 529 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 5: I am an outside corner. That's where I thrive at. 530 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 5: That's where I play the best at. That's where I 531 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 5: can see the field at. And people What people don' 532 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 5: understand when you're playing a nickel, you're a part of 533 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 5: the run game. You are a hybrid lying back of 534 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 5: slash deepensive back, and it can get tough in there. 535 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 3: Think about it. 536 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 5: Shun Springs was my my nickel. Do you understand how 537 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 5: big Blue was? Blue was two hundred and ten pounds big. 538 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 5: He could he could take that, he could take that pounded. 539 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 5: So I think what Mikey is intellectually, he's so smart, physically, 540 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 5: he's so gifted, and he understands the game. It slows 541 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 5: down for him in the inside, I mean in the outside, 542 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 5: and I think it speeds up for him in the inside. 543 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 5: And I think that's something him and the coaching staff 544 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 5: have to really have a dialogue about because when I 545 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 5: he just looks comfortable. He looks comfortable outside and no 546 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 5: matchup seems to bother him. Not the big receiver, not 547 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 5: the fast receiver, not the nothing bothers him outside. 548 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 2: And he's so versatile. And a lot of times when 549 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 2: you are that versatile, it's hard because you're getting used 550 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 2: in a bunch of ways. 551 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 5: It's hard for you to measure in one thing because 552 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 5: they want you the minor and fourth thing. So when 553 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 5: you are versative like that, come on the dude, play 554 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 5: wide receiver. Like when he gets the ball in his hand, 555 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 5: you can see glimpses of that wide receiver. But when 556 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 5: you are so versatile, it's sometimes coaches put a lot 557 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 5: on your plate. And when they put a lot on 558 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 5: your plate, now I can't master one thing. Like in 559 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 5: the NFL, you have to master one thing. If you're 560 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 5: a corner, I'm a man man corner, you have to 561 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 5: mash the man. The man I'm his own corner. I'm 562 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 5: a good tackling corner. I'm a good press corner. Like 563 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 5: you have to master these things and be able to 564 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 5: repeatedly do them over and over again, no matter who's 565 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 5: staying in front of you, and I think that's what 566 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 5: he's doing. I think they put a lot on his plate, 567 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 5: and I think that's what coach. If we wanna do 568 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 5: this off season, take a lot. Office players say, just play. 569 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 3: Fast and Fred's funny, we talk versatility. 570 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 2: I think about you because we put a lot on 571 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 2: your plate here at commands say, Man, you were such 572 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 2: a great defensive back. But I feel like you get 573 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 2: more credit and love for the things you do in 574 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 2: on TV, what you do in the community, what you're 575 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 2: doing on the radio all the time. Man, is that 576 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 2: wild for you as somebody that just exceeded at the 577 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 2: highest level to get the type of love you get 578 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 2: for being in media like that. 579 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 5: I think I had already set myself up for a 580 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 5: while I was playing. I already let them know that 581 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 5: I'm gonna keep it real with you. I'm gonna tell 582 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 5: the truth. It might come out of little awkward sometimes, 583 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 5: but I'm gonna let you know how I feeling. I'm 584 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 5: gonna give you honesty, and if you honest with people, 585 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 5: they'll be honest with you back. And I think through 586 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 5: my journey of football and then going to the media, 587 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 5: and I've worked for basically every major media outlet in America. 588 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 5: So they are used to hearing the country boyd talk, 589 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 5: and they are used to hearing my dialogue. 590 00:25:58,560 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 3: They used to hearing my point of view. 591 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 5: In my point of view, I try to keep my 592 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 5: feet grounded at all times and my point of view 593 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 5: of things. And I always look and I always say 594 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 5: to myself, even when I'm dealing with my kids, what 595 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 5: would you have thought at fifteen? What would you were thinking? 596 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 5: If what was going through your head at fifteen? So 597 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 5: I try to keep the people prospect in everything I do. 598 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 5: So I enjoyed that they actually listen to me, you 599 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like, actually listen to me. 600 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 4: And I like to have fund. 601 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 3: I don't take Fred Smooth serious. 602 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 5: And I think a lot of athletes, because we put 603 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 5: on a pedestal so young in life that they start 604 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 5: some of them started to take theirselves a little bit 605 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 5: too serious. And I think what made me always was 606 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 5: a people person was I never I never took Fred 607 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 5: smooth s heious. And I don't care about all that 608 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 5: I'm just faster than you. Other than that, I'm not 609 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 5: better than you. I'm like, I'm not a better person 610 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 5: than you. I'm just me and you get to see 611 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 5: me on TV. And sometime when they see people in 612 00:26:55,520 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 5: that box right there, they go from being human to 613 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 5: deal tsus huth right, And it changes the outlook of 614 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 5: how people. And that's why I think people say it 615 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 5: ain't always cool to meet your hero, because when they 616 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 5: meet some of these people. 617 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 3: They don't turn out to be the person that they 618 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 3: think they are. 619 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 2: And I think that's what people admire so much about you, though, 620 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: is in real time they've gotten to see the highest 621 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 2: seele going to see you overcome adversity. And one thing 622 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: I've gotten to watch you do is you remain the 623 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 2: same no matter what you go through. But you see, 624 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 2: sometimes somebody has one mistake and it's over. Yeah, they crash, 625 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 2: it's done, They crash, lose everything. You've managed to have 626 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 2: multiple mistakes, it still overcomes, still find ways to do that. 627 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,479 Speaker 2: I gotta imagine that's not missed on you at all. 628 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 2: Imagine you don't take that for granted. 629 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 5: I'm from Mississippi. First of all, I was always talking 630 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 5: about my mom and daddy. Just because you follow. You 631 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 5: gotta get back up. Now, getting back up is the 632 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 5: hard part, all right, But you gotta get back up. 633 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 5: You gotta hold your head up high. Every time you 634 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 5: go through something in life, that's when you learn. You 635 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 5: don't learn from goods good times. You don't put no 636 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 5: energy in good times. But the true test of a 637 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 5: man i woman is when things don't go your way? 638 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 2: What do you do? Then? 639 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 5: How do you rebound? How do you consume it? That's 640 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 5: the thing about it. You can consume it and be woe. 641 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 3: It's mean. 642 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 5: I can't believe something happening to me. All you can 643 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 5: be like, man, that's myself. Back up, Let me get 644 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 5: back up, Let me rebuild what I just burnt down, like, 645 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 5: let me figure it out. Let me wean my way 646 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 5: through here. And I tell you what the bad times 647 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 5: also do. And this is what everybody needs. Bad time 648 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 5: purges you of the people that shouldn't be around you. 649 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 4: Amen. 650 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 5: So that what they say, sometime when the lightning hit 651 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 5: that the forest and burn it down just for other 652 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 5: things can grow. 653 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 3: That farest needs to be burnt down for new growth 654 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 3: can happen. 655 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 5: Well, new growth can't happen unless you break that thing 656 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,479 Speaker 5: down and rebuild it. You need new studs, you need 657 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 5: new plot woods, you need new sheet rock. You need 658 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 5: to know everything. But you can get there unless you fall. 659 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 5: And most people tell you how they got there. They 660 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 5: won't tell you about the dirty time. They won't tell 661 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 5: you about when things did not go the way I 662 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 5: want to. Well, I didn't have that luxury of living 663 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 5: my life private. My life was on that big streen 664 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 5: for everybody to see. So once you agree to that, 665 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 5: you got to agree to let them see. You reveal 666 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 5: yourself and. 667 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 2: When you're rebuilding yourself right, because it's easier sat than done. Yeah, 668 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 2: you can say, you know, hey, losses or lessons and 669 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 2: you have all these things that you can say, appliche 670 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 2: things you can say, but you have to do it. 671 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 3: You have to get through it. 672 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: And again we see so many people not what gets 673 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: Fred smooth back when you're in that hill, when you're 674 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 2: in that valley? What gets Fred smooth back up top 675 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 2: of What are the things you've leaned on to do that? 676 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 3: I think it's the lessons football that's taught me. It's 677 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 3: a corner. I play a flawed position. 678 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 5: That's a position where you go out there you could 679 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 5: be the best, but they all you always know, I'm 680 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 5: gonna get burned at some point, I'm gonna get burned, 681 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 5: and I'm gonna have to get back up in front of. 682 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 3: Thousands of people, and millions of people watch you and 683 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 3: say do it again and again and again and again. 684 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 5: And my position is a position of failure. It's like 685 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 5: going to the battle's box. If I go three for 686 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 5: ten or four for ten, I'm an all star. That 687 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 5: mean this is a flawed job by flawed people. So 688 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 5: I am flawed. And as soon as you learn that 689 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 5: I am a flawed human being, you forgive yourself for 690 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 5: making mistakes. You say, I'm just gonna not do that again. 691 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 5: I'm gonna be a better me. I'm gonna figure this out. 692 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 5: Like once you stop growing, I was taught you are dying. 693 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 5: Once you stop growing mentally and physically as a person, 694 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 5: you have made it to the end of your road. 695 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 5: So therefore that map gonna have to have some You're 696 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 5: gonna have to weave out of that lane. Sometime, you 697 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 5: have to weave back into that lane sometime. Life is 698 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 5: constantly evolving, Life is constantly changing. So if you ain't 699 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 5: evolving and you ain't changing, that mean you're gonna get 700 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 5: left behind. 701 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 3: My thing was always, Hey, it. 702 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 5: Won't I won't lose from not trying the only shot 703 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 5: that's miss truly, it's a shot not taking. Now, I 704 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 5: can take a bad shot, been on the court, Like, man, 705 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 5: why you take that shot? 706 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 3: I needed to know I need to try it, so 707 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 3: I don't have to try it yet check so I 708 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 3: need to try it. 709 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 5: So that's the thing about it, man, that Mississippi mentality 710 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 5: mixed with football that troubleshoot and I had to do 711 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 5: on the run. 712 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 3: It made life kind of easy when it came to 713 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 3: that point. 714 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 5: And do it with no shame. I was always one 715 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,719 Speaker 5: of those people. I'm not shamed of anything I've been through. 716 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 5: I'm a human just like you. 717 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 3: And again that's easy. 718 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 2: Just said, thing done And now you get to watch 719 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 2: your son, Yeah, do the same thing, go through the 720 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 2: same things. Now I have to ask you, because I 721 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 2: was reading this article. What popped up when I google 722 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 2: your aggs? Always google y'all names for y'all? Pull up 723 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 2: who's the best football playing smooth? 724 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 3: It's me steal you up? Well, really, I'll be honest. 725 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 5: My uncle Junior, oh Wow, who taught me how to 726 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 5: play football, was the best athlete. 727 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 3: Him and my mom. 728 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 5: Him and my mom, they brothers and sisters. My uncle 729 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 5: used to get me in the middle street. He'd get 730 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 5: like ten years away from me and he would just 731 00:31:59,200 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 5: throw the. 732 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 2: Ball it's hard as he could, and I would just 733 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 2: leave with black eyes out time I just get hit. 734 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 2: And it got to a point where I could just 735 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 2: catch no matter how hard he threw, I could just 736 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 2: catch it without even second guess. 737 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 3: He just whipped me into shape. And then my mom 738 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 3: she found out she was pregnant with me playing football 739 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 3: with my uncle Junr Like pick up a run in 740 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 3: the front yard. So a part of me felt like 741 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 3: I was. 742 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 5: Meant to do this, I was born to do this. 743 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 5: So its just the people around you make you who 744 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 5: you are. I'm scrowng because my grandmama, my uncle, my mom. 745 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 5: I'm scrown because of them and what they put inside 746 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 5: of me. And now your son is Now my son 747 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 5: gets to see it, and he has his own Virginia 748 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 5: swag to it. But he know he got them Southern 749 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 5: roofs to it. And now the one thing I can 750 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 5: say about my son, I like he want all the smoke. 751 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 5: Like some some some X athletes sons, they don't the. 752 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 3: Shadow to be right for sure. For sure, my son 753 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 3: wanted all he think I ain't did nothing. 754 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 5: He thinks he's the first to play at his level, 755 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 5: and I enjoyed it about him that says to me, 756 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 5: he has a confidence that he believe in hisself over everything. 757 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 3: I know he gets that off of this and love you. 758 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 5: I like it if you don't believe, how you gonna 759 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 5: make me believe for sure? Like how you gonna make 760 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 5: a fan believe you the best? Why receive you are 761 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 5: the best? Connem when you don't even believe in yourself, 762 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 5: We don't do that smooth. 763 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 2: And as much fun as you had on the field, 764 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 2: I feel like watching you be a dad and watching 765 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 2: you see your daughter as your sons find success. 766 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, are you you ever had more fun than what 767 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 3: you're having right now? 768 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 5: It's an only child growing up, I used to always 769 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 5: think I wanted to have my kids. How they're gonna 770 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 5: be more like me and more like they mom. How 771 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 5: they're gonna view life. They're gonna be grind like, they're 772 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 5: gonna be funny, and they all got. 773 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,239 Speaker 3: My personality, I all got my swag and they keep 774 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 3: a smile on my face. 775 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 5: This is what they do because Lord, the conversations we 776 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 5: have off the chain, and I just enjoy them like 777 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 5: I told him, I got to take my mom and 778 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 5: dad on this voorge. Now y'all are taking me on 779 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 5: this vorge. But the AAU, I tell it'll drain you. 780 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 3: Good lord, it's long, it'll drain you. 781 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 5: But watching them excel in sports in the time that 782 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 5: they put in and just following my directions, it does 783 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 5: a lot for me. 784 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 3: It does, it does, and I really appreciate it. 785 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 5: And I'm really enjoying the ride because now I'm sitting 786 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 5: back and joining this ride free. I get to go 787 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 5: to all these colleges. I can go on these college trips. 788 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 5: I get to do all this stuff with the new school. 789 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 5: But the fun part about it, all these universities we 790 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 5: go to. It's guys I played against the coaches now 791 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 5: like so it's like I'm living in this world that 792 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 5: revolving around my kids and I know everybody. 793 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 3: So it works. 794 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 2: And when you're not being the dad, where you're not 795 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 2: running around here in the studio doing a bunch of 796 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 2: different things, you're servicing your community. Man, I don't know 797 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 2: how many times I pull up a photo or I 798 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 2: pull up an event and you're there. You're always there, 799 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 2: and you say it. You're from Mississippi. This is not 800 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 2: your commit this is your kids community. Why is it 801 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 2: so important, especially during the holiday season, for you to 802 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 2: give back to this community and just be such a 803 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 2: part of it, man, Cause I feel like DMV and 804 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 2: fresh with a synonymous. 805 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 5: Most definitely, these are the people that cheered me on. 806 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 5: These is the people that had my back through the highs, 807 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 5: through the lows. Why I can't have your back back? Like, 808 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 5: why I can't be there for you at one point? 809 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 5: Like the thing is, man, with people, Life is not complex. 810 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 5: People make it complex. Life is simple. Treat people how 811 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 5: you want to be treated. I want to be treated nice. 812 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 5: I treat people nice. It don't take fifteen minutes out 813 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 5: your day to make sure somebody else having a good day. 814 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 5: And if all I gotta do is have my presence 815 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 5: be here, all I gotta do is be there for 816 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 5: you on Christmas, give you some couple of extra gifts 817 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 5: that you probably won't go to get in here. 818 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 4: That does it for me? 819 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 5: Like I've always wondered with people, like why would the 820 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 5: simple Why would you make the simple things hard? 821 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 3: Like the Golden rule? 822 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 5: Treat people how you want to be treated and just 823 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 5: repeat it, just keep repeating it. That's always my theme, man. 824 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 5: And when you meet these people at a game, they 825 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 5: never forget that moment. Right, Well, guess what when I 826 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 5: meet you at a charity charity event, I never forget 827 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 5: that moment. 828 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 3: That's true because I know one. 829 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 5: Day I always tell the young kids, girls and boys, 830 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 5: one day I'm gonna be asking for your autograph, and 831 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 5: I want you to say, I never forget Fred Smooth. 832 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 3: I came to one your charity event. You gave me 833 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 3: a prison, and I'll never forget that. 834 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 5: Like this way make me feel way more than I 835 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 5: came to your game and seen you make a play. 836 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 3: Right, That's that's that's useless in the big. 837 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 5: Scheme of things, But for me to be there for 838 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 5: them and get them a memory that they'll never forget, 839 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 5: and guess what it makes them. 840 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 3: Do turn around and give again. 841 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 5: So it's just creating a cycle, that's all you're doing. 842 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 5: I had the cycle made for me with Steve McNair. 843 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 5: He used to come back to Mississippi, him and Jay 844 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 5: Wrights all the time do stuff for us. 845 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do the same thing. 846 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 5: So if it rubbed out on me from them, it's 847 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 5: gonna rub I'm gonna rub out on some of these kids, 848 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 5: and they gonna the cycle is just gonna keep on going, 849 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 5: and the giving gonna keep on going, and the people 850 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 5: that need it, that appreciate it, they will never forget 851 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 5: them times some of the best times in their life. 852 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 2: Smooth claws man. That's why it was perfect to have 853 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 2: you here on this holiday show. And one thing we 854 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 2: do on Command Center we do a fresh fight up 855 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 2: where you talk directly to the fans. So in this 856 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 2: episode right here, I want you to look at your 857 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 2: ISO cam. You got an IO cam, I think it's 858 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,399 Speaker 2: right there. Look directly at your ISO cam and give 859 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 2: us a fresh fighter. For Christmas Day, we take on 860 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys. 861 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,439 Speaker 3: I'm gonna reverse this thing because it's Christmas. It ain't 862 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:43,359 Speaker 3: f fired up. 863 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,399 Speaker 5: It's fred ice cold Christmas, and this was what I want, 864 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 5: all right for Christmas. I want you to open up 865 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 5: those press on Christmas Eve. I want you to eat 866 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 5: that Christmas breakfast, and then I want you to head 867 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:56,760 Speaker 5: the Northwest. 868 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 3: Stadium where I b C. 869 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 5: Santana, Moss, Be, Mitch Logan, paulsy London, Big Beg Fletcher, 870 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 5: all the guys will be there. We want to see 871 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 5: you in the house. We want to see you making noise. 872 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 5: We play the cowboys, you know, we hate they guts 873 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 5: and it ain't no better time to give them a 874 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 5: Christmas present than Christmas of an ale a hot ale 875 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 5: might serve with some hot coco. 876 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 3: So I mean child in Northwest Stadium on Christmas Day. 877 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 3: I might have gifts with me. 878 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 4: I might not. I had to move to. 879 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 3: Mic away from me because I just start laughing. Whatever 880 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,439 Speaker 3: Frega sent that. Brother. 881 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 2: We appreciate you, and I know this community appreciates you 882 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 2: so much because again, you take so much time to 883 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 2: get back. 884 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:36,359 Speaker 3: Man. 885 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 2: You got so much things going on. You don't got 886 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 2: to be here, but you choose to be here. Whether 887 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 2: we appreciate you so much. Our Next Man Up a 888 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 2: man of the people, a big mouth, but even bigger heart. 889 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 2: Smoother clause, my brother Fred smoo. Appreciate you, Doug anytime 890 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 2: command this family. We hope you enjoyed this episode of 891 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 2: Next Man Up. Remember you can stream all of the 892 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 2: Next Man Up episodes right now on the Commander's YouTube 893 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 2: page or the audio. 894 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 3: Wherever you get your podcast. Thank you so much for 895 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 3: supporting the Next Man Up podcast. 896 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 2: You allowed us to be nominated for not one, but 897 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 2: two People's Choice Podcast Awards, Best Male Hosted and Best 898 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 2: Black Male Hosted Podcast. And that's all because of the 899 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 2: best fans in the NFL. I appreciate y'all so much 900 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 2: for supporting us. It's crazy to think we're already in 901 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 2: season three of Next Man Up and we have a 902 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 2: lot more to go. So make sure to subscribe to 903 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 2: the Commander's YouTube page so you don't miss any of 904 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 2: our content. 905 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 3: I'm ronkow Jr. And this is Next Man Up. 906 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 2: This show was filmed at the Big Bear AI Command 907 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 2: Center Studio. Big Bear AI offers Mission Ready AI for 908 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 2: a rapidly evolving world, proudly protecting the Washington Commanders and 909 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 2: its fans.