1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: From UFOs two, ghosts and government cover ups. History is 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. Welcome 4 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: to the show. This is stuff they don't want you 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: to know. My name is Matt Frederick and my name 6 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: is Ben Bolling, and today we're going to talk about 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: something that's a little out there. It's kind of fun. 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: I enjoyed a lot fun. Yeah, this is fun, man, 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: I enjoyed this topic. You don't you know? Yeah, wait, no, 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good. I'm good with it. I just 11 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: I guess I can see how some of it is 12 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: is fun because because it's real history, his real history 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: combined with some of the little crazier stuff. It's exactly 14 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: the it's the perfect spot where here there are the facts, 15 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: and here's where it gets crazy meat, at least for me. Okay, okay, 16 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. So let's let the let 17 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: the badger out of the bag here, let the cat 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: out of the got in the bag. Now, let's let 19 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: the World War two badger get out of the bag 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: here and talk about Nazis, the Nazi Party, Uh well, 21 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: not specifically, just the Nazis, right something else because you guys, 22 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: Matt Night run into Nazi topics fairly often. They're a 23 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: bit pervasive in the conspiracy world, right, And one of 24 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: the reasons they're so pervasive is that there is often 25 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: a grain of truth to the claims. Now, a lot 26 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: of the claims may get exaggerated, but it is true 27 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: that the Nazis tried a lot of weird stuff. Man, 28 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: they got weird with it. And I think that some 29 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: of the insanity of the regime there, which did have 30 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: catastrophic and tragic consequences um that have scarred the world 31 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: the present day, even uh, it came from a kind 32 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: of underlying really bis our place and uh and this 33 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: all leads us to today's episode, which is not just Nazis, 34 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: but one of our mutual favorite topics, Nazi UFOs. You know, 35 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: I just realized been. I think that's the longest it's 36 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: ever taken for us to get to the actual topic, right, 37 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: which you know it's in the title. When someone wanted 38 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: to click and listen to this, we could have just 39 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: jumped in. It's fun, though I enjulated doing it this way. 40 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: So in uh, in World War two, some interesting things happen, uh, 41 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: fighter pilots and uh, I guess even some civilian pilots 42 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: for the Allies start reporting something they call foo fighters. 43 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: Food fighters are these points of light that follow along 44 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: with the aircraft or seem to do um do physics 45 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: defying aerial maneuvers. Uh. The pilots don't know what they are, 46 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: they don't know where they're coming for. Um Well, and 47 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: one of the reasons a lot of these pilots thought 48 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: it was something otherworldly or something from the Nazis, some 49 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: high tech things, because there are all these rumors occurring 50 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: at the time about insane Nazi technology in these in 51 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: these different areas and propulsion and um planes, short and 52 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: even submarines and all this kind of stuff. So I 53 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: think the pilots were more I don't know, it was 54 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: almost like they were looking for something, so they were 55 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: more prone to believe it. Maybe that had a confirmation 56 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: bias exactly. Yeah. And the thing is that this leads 57 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: us to the these two facts together they lead us 58 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: to today's question, did the Nazis really have secret technology? 59 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: Did they have something that would be like a UFO. 60 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: Before we continue, though, there's one thing that we do 61 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: have to point out, and that is that all a 62 00:03:55,440 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: UFO is is an unidentified flying object act. It could 63 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: be a bird, it could be Superman, it could it 64 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: could be something that came off of a propeller. It 65 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,839 Speaker 1: could just be you know, a very confused fish. Yes, 66 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: and the but the cool thing about the the food 67 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: fighters is that those are trained pilots who would normally 68 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: know pretty much anything that's flying near them what it is, 69 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: and they could probably tell you exactly, oh this is 70 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: a blank right yeah, and they're telling you, I have 71 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: no idea what this thing was, and it was doing 72 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: things physical that physically defy other planes. That's a very 73 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: good point because these are not just green pilots. These 74 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: are experienced combat veterans in many cases. But with that 75 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: being said that a UFO we often almost always here 76 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: it associated with aliens or extra terrestrials. It might just 77 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: be a misidentified aircraft. Um. But when we go to 78 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: a Nazi technolo, man, I'm gonna I'm gonna give this 79 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: one to you, here's where it gets crazy. They absolutely 80 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: we're trying secretive technology, new innovative things. You can look 81 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: at a lot of inventions or how would the projects 82 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: the R and D You can look a lot of 83 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: the aren't You can look at a lot of the 84 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: R and D projects, like the Horton h O to 85 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: two nine, That is my favorite. The Horton brothers, they 86 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: were really innovative in Uh. Was that jet propulsion? Yeah, 87 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: they were. They were experts in aerodynamic design, jet propulsion. 88 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: They were They're essentially aerospace engineers and rocket treatment in 89 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: a lot of ways. Uh, The Nazis had real life 90 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: rocket scientists who were doing work that was far, far 91 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: beyond stuff that Russia, the British, the French, the United States, 92 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: even the Japanese were doing. And this this is interesting 93 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: because the grain of truth is there. Or the Horton 94 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: hoe to to nine was built in a flying wing 95 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: design that was revolutionary for the time. It is very, 96 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: very difficult to overstate how crazy this thing was. Now 97 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: did it work while the Allies won the war? And 98 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: there were there was never a fleet of Horton hose 99 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: that we know of flying around. But that's not the 100 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: only thing. The Nazis also had other attempts to make, 101 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: even like flying disc like um the sack A S six. 102 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: But what this gives us is this gives us a 103 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: couple of things. This gives us the knowledge that, yes, 104 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: there really were unorthodox experiments with flying vehicles. And the 105 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: question is how many of these made it to the 106 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: drawing board, how many of them never made it off 107 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: the drawing board, How many of them actually got tested 108 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: in flight? Uh? There there a few provable cases of it, 109 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: so not very many, but there are provable cases where 110 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: we know that Nazi scientists did exhibit this, and of 111 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: course let alone. Uh that's not even counting their their 112 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: unmanned flight research, their rocketry programs. Now, now here's where 113 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: the skeptical side of me comes in. Okay, I've seen 114 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: the pictures of the Horton h O and the sax 115 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: A s S six and they don't sound anything like 116 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: what these food fighters looked like, or at least the 117 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: reports of the food fighters. You know, that's a great 118 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: that's a great point, and I think that it's a 119 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: very important point to make at this time because they 120 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: descriptions of the food fighters not sound like terrestrial vehicles. 121 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: They sound like some sort of weird sentient light. And um, 122 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: we'll see when when I hear it. Just from being 123 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: in video production and working with cameras and lenses a 124 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: lot It sounds like a weird lens flare to me, 125 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: and I would love to see footage of it, just 126 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: to really analyze it and look at the angles and 127 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: direction where they're light. Yeah, and it's weird because a 128 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: lot of the a lot of the pilots of this time, 129 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: of course, they didn't have recording equipment. Necessarily, they had audio, 130 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: and there might be some records of that audio. But 131 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: who knows. What happened to most of them and food 132 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: fighters could be explained by any number of let's call 133 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: them mundane explanations. I love lens flare. I think that's 134 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: a strong candidate. There's also the idea that could be 135 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: some sort of electrical discharge, right um or maybe people 136 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: were suffering from some sort of disorientation or vertigo um. 137 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: Or maybe we can't attribute this to a single cause, 138 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's looking back in retrospect that gives 139 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: us them, gives us the tendency to group all of 140 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: these things as one type of events, you know, and 141 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: I think I think it's possible. But um. Also, let's 142 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: keep in mind there's another role here which I guess 143 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: they should have mentioned earlier, and that's wartime propaganda. Both sides. Yeah, 144 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: that little guy. Yeah, so both sides um World War two, 145 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: the Allies and the access powers. We're just rowing bs 146 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: at each other left and right. Uh, doing propaganda for 147 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: the citizens when they could get access to radio waves 148 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: and stuff, doing um dropping leaflets and then having spies 149 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: dispersed rumors about you know, uh anything from American and 150 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: Nazi Superman's like real life Captain America's. You know, it's 151 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: so weird to me trying to play and trying to 152 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: negatively affect the morale of the other side that it's 153 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: so interesting to me. It's a strange game of chess 154 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: in a way, and it has some um, it has 155 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: intangible powerful effects. But with that in mind, we have 156 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: to ask ourselves ourselves, is the idea of Nazi secret 157 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: tech analogy? Did the exaggeration come from history later or 158 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: did it come directly from the Nazis? Did they happen 159 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: to play up these claims a little bit more? Um, 160 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. The one thing we do know 161 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: is that where people will say that we're remiss if 162 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: we don't mention this. The Brotherhood of the Bell is 163 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: um a book that came out in English that comes 164 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: from and it was originally the idea was fostered by 165 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: a Polish writer. Then this Polish writer claimed that he 166 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: had spoken with some ex Polish Intelligence agency members and 167 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: that they said they had interviewed some Nazis in the 168 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: wake of World War Two, and that one of these Nazis, 169 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: a high ranking official in the in the regime, had 170 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: had revealed to them that the scientists, the Access scientists, 171 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: had cracked the code on what would essentially be anti gravity, 172 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: negating the normal effect of gravity, and that they have 173 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: built something that looked like a bell, and that this 174 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: bell was able to uh, somehow defy the bounds of 175 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: physics and travel at incredible speeds, make sharp corners, um. 176 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 1: And another thing, I know, I'm going kind of off 177 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: the deep ends here, Matt. Another thing that's really interesting 178 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: is in some ancient Indian myths there are descriptions of 179 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: flying machines that were understood to work off of some 180 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, good call and that I can't remember. Is 181 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: this the Punisha where these are at? Okay, Well, somebody 182 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: will tell us if we're wrong, and I will I 183 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: will look back and correct that. But the the story here, 184 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: um becomes a game of connecting very tenuous dots or 185 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 1: making very tenuous connections between dots. Uh, there's another thing 186 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 1: called the Kecksburg incident which people can look up for 187 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: more information. And don't know if we touch on that 188 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: in our video. I don't think we did. Okay, Well, 189 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: that is something that we will probably return to in 190 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: the future. Then. But with all this, what I'm saying 191 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: here is, with with all of this, a lot of 192 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: the emphasis on Nazi UFOs entered the mainstream after the 193 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: publication of these books. Now, of course the Polish author 194 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: doesn't have um tangible proof that he can offer, and 195 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: of course a lot of the people who make claims 196 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: about the so called Nazi bell and stuff don't have 197 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: the most credibility, let's put it that way, the most. Yeah, 198 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: they don't have the most credibility in the world. And uh, 199 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: there is a site, Uh, there is a site in Europe, however, 200 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: that is a flooded mine. Yeah. You remember the concrete 201 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: structure the allegedly housed. Yes, and that was again allegedly 202 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: a secret testing ground. Now, because the mind is flooded, 203 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: people haven't been able to secure access to the I 204 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: guess the the entirety of the mind. So people really 205 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: don't know what's down there, and who knows, Man, who 206 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: knows what they would find down there. I'm going to 207 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: say probably a lot of corpses and mining equipment, but 208 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: there could be something else. The only way to know 209 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: is to go down there. Oh, man, what that would 210 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: be so awesome if that was actually there, hidden deep 211 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: inside that mine and some divers went in there, and 212 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: I guess what, we're making a movie. We're making a movie. 213 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: They're gonna make a movie about that? Is it Nicolas 214 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: Nicolas Cage? Nicolas Cage? In the Nazi minds, it would 215 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: be a sequel. It would be a sequel to National Treasure, Yeah, 216 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: the third or fourth one. Yeah, I don't know if 217 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: you can even call it the sequel at that point, 218 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: it's just like fifth in the series. And would a 219 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: Nazi bell, remnants of the Nazi bell really be a 220 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: national treasure? I guess it depends on the nation. So 221 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: the one thing that we can say that is a 222 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: that is a little bit more of the grain of 223 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: truth stuff. So we've mentioned some of the more provocative claims, 224 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: and we've also mentioned I think that while there is 225 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: some proof, it seems that a lot of the A 226 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: lot of the grain of truth aspect of this has 227 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: been exaggerated. So let's talk about one of the strangest things. Um. Oh, 228 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna get to the closest that we know approvable 229 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: Nazi UFOs, however indirectly, and that starts with a little 230 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: something called Operation paper Clip. Yewah. This is when scientists, 231 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: German scientists, after the war, after Worlar two, they came 232 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: over to the US and they started working for US 233 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: agencies like NASA UM or was it NASA at the time. 234 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: I guess it wasn't. Well, they started working for UM 235 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: the War Department directly. They also started working with some 236 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: private arms contractors, defense contractors. And the Operation paper Clip 237 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: was top secret because let's remember that after the close 238 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: of the war and the discovery of various acts of 239 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: genocide on the part of Nazi Germany, people were not 240 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: trying to invite anyone affiliated with the regime into any 241 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: sort of safety, you know, And so Operation paper Clip 242 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: was conducted in secret, and the OSS, precursor to the CIA, 243 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: worked too craft identities for these German scientists, um, several 244 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: of whom were yes, working against their will. Uh So 245 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that all of these people were you know, 246 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: trigger happy murderers or something. Um. But they they were 247 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: affiliated with this regime. They were doing work for the 248 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: Nazi government. Uh. The United States did uh cast that aside, 249 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: give them some form of immunity, UH, take them away 250 00:15:54,800 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: to the United States and have them continue their rocketry research. Um. Directly, 251 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: I would think of Verna von Braun, who was one 252 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: of the leading researchers in the US and rocketry after 253 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: his time with the Nazis. This uh, this stuff that 254 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: they worked on allowed them to advance U S rocketry, 255 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: of course, way past where it was when they began, 256 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: and way faster than anybody thought they would, which leads 257 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: us to ultimately the descendants of the secret Nazi technology, 258 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: in particular that flying Wington at least that's the one 259 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: that I think of as the best example, which then 260 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: became stealth bomber. Yeah. Yeah, the principles behind that used there. 261 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking even more, if we want to go 262 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: to space with it, if we want to take the 263 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: alien idea of a UFO, then the rocketry work by 264 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: these former Nazi scientists ultimately led to the ability to 265 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: you create the rockets that we would need to take 266 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: human beings into space, which means that NASA created something 267 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: uh a ufo I guess descended from Nazi technology. So 268 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: weirdly enough, space shuttles are one of the best examples 269 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: of secret Nazi technology doing amazing things. It is pretty crazy, 270 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: but it's also, um, it's also kind of work in 271 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: progress because we have to realize that at this point 272 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: a lot of the story is still classified, which which 273 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: just baffles me. But you know, um, information about Pearl 274 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: Harbor is still classified to a degree haven't been released. Yeah. Sorry, no, 275 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: it's fun. It's literally stuff they don't want you to know. Uh. 276 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: So we've explored some of the some of the claims 277 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: about Nazi UFOs, and we have a pretty exciting time 278 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: ahead of us, I think for anybody who's interested in 279 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: this topic, because there is so much more speculation out there, 280 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: but there's also so much more to discover. Who knows, 281 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: who knows what files might be rotting in a filing 282 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: cabinet somewhere in Eastern Europe, you know, who knows what's uh, 283 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: what's sitting there in a bank basement in the Kremlin, 284 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 1: And we're in a flooded mine right exactly in a 285 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: flooded mind. And with that we will will tie up 286 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: this episode and thank you guys as always for listening. 287 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: We do hope that you enjoyed our exploration of the 288 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: strange story of Nazi UFOs. You know what I'd like 289 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: to ask for, Matt, if we have anybody who feels 290 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: they've had an experience with a food fighter, I'd love 291 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: to hear that description. Now I'm not talking about Dave Girl, okay, 292 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: because I've had one of those. You have have have 293 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: one of those? Uh. The the things that we'd like 294 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: to hear about our your thoughts on see great Nazi technology? 295 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: Has it been suppressed or has it simply been exaggerated? Uh? 296 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: And is there something, of course more specific that you 297 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: would like us to dig into, Because as always, our 298 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 1: best topics come from you, our listeners. So let us 299 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: know about it. Give us a holler on Facebook, you 300 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 1: can drop us a tweet on Twitter, and Mett, what 301 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: do people do if they're not into the whole social 302 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: media thing? 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