Speaker 1: Welcome back to all the smoke. We have a very
Speaker 1: special edition coming to you live from Buffalo Wild Wings
Speaker 1: in Houston, the official home of March Madness. Jack and
Speaker 1: I linked up with Buffalo Wild Wings during the NBA
Speaker 1: Summer League last last summer, and we did so good
Speaker 1: they decided to invite us back. Jack, I mean they
Speaker 1: feeding us, They're paying us. They got beds for us,
Speaker 1: providing drinks for us. I mean I might just call
Speaker 1: my wife and say, Honey, kiss the kids. I ain't
Speaker 1: coming over. Only got some wardrobe war. I mean, I gotta,
Speaker 1: I gotta where's the I had a robe, I got
Speaker 1: a letterman jacket. I seem to Buffalo while Wing underwear
Speaker 1: like we are good and too much sauce. Too much man.
Speaker 1: We got two very special guests today. UH NBA Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer Showtime Brother Kansas Great, Celtic Great Paul Pierce,
Speaker 1: Louise Paul, appreciate you. We got eight Town Legend, four
Speaker 1: time damn four them Things, four time w NBA Champ,
Speaker 1: three times National Champ, Gold medalists, UH Houston Common Comments Legends,
Speaker 1: Cheryl Swoop Cheryl, thank you. We had a chance to
Speaker 1: have you. We had you. Uh what was it called remote? Remote?
Speaker 1: Now we get a chance to have you in the building.
Speaker 1: How about that? Thank you guys for being here. Man,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have some fun, you know, as Jack knows.
Speaker 1: You know, we've been you know, Jack is trying to
Speaker 1: turn it up for my birthday the past two weeks ago.
Speaker 1: So we're shooting, we're eating, we're having a good time. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So what have you two been up to? Pee? I
Speaker 1: know you just got a new contract with Showtime, Man,
Speaker 1: talk about it. How is life man these days? To
Speaker 1: be officially a part of the team. I know we've
Speaker 1: been working for a few years. Now it's official. I
Speaker 1: appreciate you know, I love working with y'all. Man, you know,
Speaker 1: so it's gonna be fun. Man's I love what y'all
Speaker 1: do with Showtime Sports, and I'm just happy to be
Speaker 1: a part of it. Man. What about you, queen? What
Speaker 1: you up to besides that? Let Pepper by the way, Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I'm waiting to see when I'm good my contract with Showtime?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I love that's lit. Just putting it out there,
Speaker 1: be it, but we waiting. I'm putting it out there, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: out to be lit. But I mean just doing a
Speaker 1: lot with everything right now, I am doing um some
Speaker 1: TV work for Athletes Unlimited and just enjoying men around
Speaker 1: the game love this time? Are you love? You love
Speaker 1: being full time? I do enjoy. Yeah, it keeps me
Speaker 1: involved in the game. I love mentoring, so doing the games,
Speaker 1: it gives me an opportunity to you know, obviously watch
Speaker 1: the up and come in talent and players who are
Speaker 1: currently in the w but also just to mentor and
Speaker 1: making them back right well, and then it keeps me
Speaker 1: involved and makes me feel young. Yeah. Can you break
Speaker 1: down the scoring system, the unique scoring system to us? So, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put this wing now. Yeah, I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: your knapping. You know that's not supposed to go anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And then I watch so it's real interesting. Here's what
Speaker 1: I love about Athletes Unlimited. The scoring system because it's
Speaker 1: not your typical two for two, three for three. So
Speaker 1: for every thing good you do, you get positive fortis right.
Speaker 1: For every thing bad you do, you get points taken away.
Speaker 1: So there's a leaderboard that's constantly changing. And at the
Speaker 1: end of the season, which is next week because it's
Speaker 1: just a five weeks season, whoever is in first place,
Speaker 1: they walk away with the back. So twos or twenty points,
Speaker 1: threes or thirty points, fouls, turnovers as minus ten points. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very interesting. It keeps the game exciting. And so
Speaker 1: they also get quarter points, so it's four quarters and
Speaker 1: for every quarter you win, you get fifty points. Each
Speaker 1: player on the team. Each player gets fifty points added
Speaker 1: to their overall score. And whoever wins the game, each
Speaker 1: player gets one hundred and fifty points. And the last
Speaker 1: thing I'll say is so every Sunday is a draft.
Speaker 1: So whoever finishes in the top four spots for that
Speaker 1: week their packs. On Sunday they have a draft, So
Speaker 1: every week it's a new team. Yeah, it's a different
Speaker 1: like that the box thinking. It is, and it's it
Speaker 1: keeps the game fun. It keeps a game exciting. So
Speaker 1: last year when I did it, we had a triple
Speaker 1: over time. This year. The other thing is so it's
Speaker 1: run by the players. So there's a players executive committee.
Speaker 1: They kind of set the rules. They decide how they
Speaker 1: want to play. This year, they said we'll do one
Speaker 1: overtime and if it goes to more than that, they
Speaker 1: go by the ELOM system. Do you know what that is. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what that is. I wasn't familiar with it.
Speaker 1: But so in the ELOM system, they did first team
Speaker 1: to seven. Oh, kind of very exciting. Yeah, Paul, you
Speaker 1: got a chance. Obviously you teamed up with your former
Speaker 1: teammate and brother Kevin Garnett. You guys got a chance
Speaker 1: to go back to Boston. Recently sat down with some
Speaker 1: of their young stars, Tatum Brown and a couple other
Speaker 1: What was the experience like, first of all being back there,
Speaker 1: but then sitting down with the future of that organization. Man,
Speaker 1: I think, you know, being that I've been on the
Speaker 1: Celtics so long, I just feel it hard to tell
Speaker 1: this to Kevin because Kevin haven't really been back, and
Speaker 1: so I feel like it's our duty to come back
Speaker 1: and give the game to the to the to the ygs.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Because when I was there,
Speaker 1: you know, I was constantly seeing Bill Russell, you know,
Speaker 1: Joe Joe White, Uh, you know, Robert Pears should come
Speaker 1: to the games, and you know, it be times where
Speaker 1: I go to dinner with them and I get some
Speaker 1: game from them, you know, And I just feel like
Speaker 1: it's our duty to come back and just interact with
Speaker 1: the young guys because they want us there. They want
Speaker 1: they want us to be present, you know, and they
Speaker 1: feel a certain certain sense of energy because that's you know,
Speaker 1: that's a traditional franchise, you know, where players is up
Speaker 1: in the rafters. And and like I said, we got
Speaker 1: to be the next generation to pass it down to
Speaker 1: the young guys. And you know, we don't see that enough,
Speaker 1: you know, and so we just feel like it's our duty.
Speaker 1: So to interact with Jason and Marcus and Jalen. Uh.
Speaker 1: It was refreshing just to hear their perspective and what
Speaker 1: they thought of us, because you don't know until you
Speaker 1: go there and you holler at them, like man, you know,
Speaker 1: it was just like man, thanks for coming around. Ogs.
Speaker 1: We love when y'all around, you know, come to practice,
Speaker 1: come to the games. You know that that that just
Speaker 1: show us y'all love. And then you know, and Kg,
Speaker 1: I've been back, and KG didn't understand that part of it,
Speaker 1: and now he's like, man, I'm glad I came back. Man,
Speaker 1: we got to start coming back more, you know. Just
Speaker 1: even like even if we don't interact with him that day,
Speaker 1: just being at practice, seeing the be a scene being
Speaker 1: in the building that mean a lot to them, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so it was good to just like get that
Speaker 1: feel from them and bridge the gap between the ogs
Speaker 1: and the y G. I think that needs to happen
Speaker 1: more often. Obviously, you know, John Murant is in the
Speaker 1: headlines right now. We wish him nothing but the best
Speaker 1: on his return to the league. But Paul you know,
Speaker 1: and Schry you know, or your league started when you
Speaker 1: guys came in, but when we came in the NBA
Speaker 1: our vets for thirty seven, thirty eight, thirty nine, forty
Speaker 1: and whether they contributed on the court, off the court,
Speaker 1: they gave us so much game. Always looked at game
Speaker 1: so much game, whether go buy some suits or stay
Speaker 1: away and this, invest in this, or put your money here,
Speaker 1: or let me beat the bridge between the coach because
Speaker 1: he's tripping and the rest of the team. But the
Speaker 1: league is so young now that it's just young dudes
Speaker 1: leading young dudes. And if you got a lot of money,
Speaker 1: you're not listening to nobody. So that's what's missing right
Speaker 1: in the game, right And to your point, like for
Speaker 1: me being the first player to sign, like I didn't,
Speaker 1: I didn't have a vet per se but I had
Speaker 1: a Cynthia Cooper who had been playing overseas, and so
Speaker 1: Coop was the oldest on our team, and just like
Speaker 1: Coop led by example, but she also was going to
Speaker 1: talk right. But what I really appreciated about Coop was
Speaker 1: it didn't matter what she had going on off the
Speaker 1: court personally, like when she came to work, she came
Speaker 1: to work, and you respected her for the time she
Speaker 1: put in coming early, staying late. And I tell people
Speaker 1: all the time because they're like, how did you guys
Speaker 1: like get so lucky to have like to win the
Speaker 1: first four and Tina when she came out. Nobody really
Speaker 1: knew Tina coming out from USC. But because the league
Speaker 1: was new, they appointed the first two players they appointed
Speaker 1: to teams. So I got appointed to Houston, Cook got
Speaker 1: appointed to Houston. But I think it's so important to
Speaker 1: your point that you have vet's around, not just for
Speaker 1: what you can teach them on the court, but stuff
Speaker 1: you can teach them off the court and about life.
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, Cheryl, speak to your journey to college because
Speaker 1: it wasn't traditional. You had to go to Southern Plains
Speaker 1: Junior College first before you hit Texas Tech. What was
Speaker 1: that road like coming out of high school, making a
Speaker 1: pit stop at JUCO and then landing in Texas Tech. Well,
Speaker 1: here's the interesting thing for me. I initially signed a
Speaker 1: letter of intent to go play at the University of
Speaker 1: Texas because back in the day, damn, that was a
Speaker 1: long enough. Back in the day, like Texas was I say,
Speaker 1: the South Carolinas of today, or Texas was the UK.
Speaker 1: So if you were anybody that had dreams and goals
Speaker 1: of winning a championship, like Texas was place. And so
Speaker 1: I didn't even think about another school, didn't look at
Speaker 1: another school. They recruited me, said we want you, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm out. That's where I'm going. I
Speaker 1: got there. I was there for six days, and you know,
Speaker 1: recruiting and things were so different back then than it
Speaker 1: is now. There was no transfer portal and anyway a lot.
Speaker 1: But I got there and it just didn't feel right.
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't that I didn't think I was good enough,
Speaker 1: It just it just wasn't for me. I remember I
Speaker 1: called my mom every day bawling, and my mom said
Speaker 1: to me, she said, oh, no, like you made that commitment,
Speaker 1: that's what you decided to do without talking to me.
Speaker 1: So that's what you're gonna do. There a diversity there,
Speaker 1: Well it was, but when I got there, it wasn't
Speaker 1: a lot of people on campus. So that was the
Speaker 1: first time I actually sat down and thought about the
Speaker 1: decision I made. Where am I? What am I going
Speaker 1: to do? And finally my mom was like, look, you're
Speaker 1: not happy, not going to be happy. Come home. Long
Speaker 1: story short, I called the coach at Junior College South Plains,
Speaker 1: junior college that recruited me, and I said, I'm leaving Texas.
Speaker 1: I would love to come there because I didn't want
Speaker 1: to sit out a year and if I would have
Speaker 1: gone from Texas immediately to Texas Tech, I would have
Speaker 1: had to sit. So I went to junior college, played
Speaker 1: for two years, and I have to tell you that
Speaker 1: that was my journey. But that was the best decision
Speaker 1: really that I ever made. Interesting because not only did
Speaker 1: it help me with my game, it helped me understand
Speaker 1: how to balance being a student athlete and just just
Speaker 1: life like that too. Yeah, Okay, I'm a home girl.
Speaker 1: I wanted to me by my mama, get it. Get
Speaker 1: it to be told. At the time, I had a
Speaker 1: high school boyfriend. I was like, oh, I don't want
Speaker 1: to leave my booth. Yeah, you go from South Plains
Speaker 1: and you take that jump after two years what was Texas?
Speaker 1: So you feel like you were more prepared for Texas
Speaker 1: Tech went desolutely, But I also knew that I wanted
Speaker 1: to be closer to home, so South Planes. I grew
Speaker 1: up in Brownfield, Texas, so South Planes thirty minutes from home,
Speaker 1: Texas Tech and Lubbock forty five minutes from home. So
Speaker 1: there was never a question of where was I going
Speaker 1: to go when I left South Planes? It was Texas Tech.
Speaker 1: And for me, the reason why I chose Tech besides
Speaker 1: the fact that it was close to home, Like, I
Speaker 1: always wanted to be that player that wanted to change
Speaker 1: a program, Like I didn't want to go somewhere where
Speaker 1: a team was stacked and just be another player. Like
Speaker 1: I wanted to make a difference. And that's something that
Speaker 1: like I try to live by every single day to day,
Speaker 1: even though it's not playing, but I always want to
Speaker 1: put myself in a place or a space where I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm making a difference. So Pee your journey.
Speaker 1: I mean, a lot of people don't know you're from
Speaker 1: the Bay, born in the Bay, raising raised so how
Speaker 1: did you decide to go way across the country to Kansas.
Speaker 1: I mean, coming from California going to Kansas. I'm sure
Speaker 1: that was a culture shock in itself, But how did
Speaker 1: you end up landing in Kansas? He was burnt, he
Speaker 1: was burning up. I had to get out the hood.
Speaker 1: I had to because you were super burn. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: would I wouldn't have made it if I went to
Speaker 1: LA or UFC or just stayed in the pack ten.
Speaker 1: You know, I knew myself Street singlewood man, I knew myself,
Speaker 1: and I knew the gospel I was hanging with. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have made it. So I was just like when
Speaker 1: I took my visit to Kansas, it was just like,
Speaker 1: damn it ain't it ain't shit out here to do?
Speaker 1: This is perfect? You know what I'm saying. It was
Speaker 1: just like when you had the reality check in when
Speaker 1: you're losing homies in high school and you're seeing the
Speaker 1: path you on. You know, I had to beg my
Speaker 1: teacher for a grade for me to pass, for me
Speaker 1: to go to get out, just to get out. Wow,
Speaker 1: I was like I had got I failed the class,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I remember, and this is the
Speaker 1: one class you needed to to get to college. And
Speaker 1: I was like, I remember going to missus Sanders. I
Speaker 1: was like, man, miss Sanders, if you just give me
Speaker 1: a d I'm a pastial class and I'm out of here.
Speaker 1: I'm leaving La. I remember I told I'm not coming
Speaker 1: back here. Was passing. Well, you just needed to get
Speaker 1: no f certain great point out, Yeah, certain great. I
Speaker 1: just remember I told, I said, you just gave me that.
Speaker 1: I'm leaving Cali. I'm leaving La, you know, because I
Speaker 1: was getting a trumble. I was missing school and and
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, i need to get my
Speaker 1: ship together. You know, I'm gonna focus on hoop at school.
Speaker 1: Last one thing Kansas did because like you said, it
Speaker 1: was a culture shock. You know, you know, I ain't
Speaker 1: know nothing about Kansas, but I knew going there was
Speaker 1: nothing for me to get into right and songs like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come here. It was the best situation to
Speaker 1: where I'm gonna playing a great, good team because at
Speaker 1: the time you said, Lay won the national championship and
Speaker 1: you know, you know the Pac twel the Big West
Speaker 1: it was, and and the other thing was Matt and
Speaker 1: sure uh, I was the last of my family so
Speaker 1: I left my mom alone. It was a tough decision
Speaker 1: because my older brothers was already at the house. So
Speaker 1: it was tough to leave my mom alone. So that
Speaker 1: was a tough decision, Like Dan, once I'm gone, Mom's
Speaker 1: is on you know. So that was a tough decision
Speaker 1: to leave home. But I was like, Mom, I gotta
Speaker 1: do what I gotta do. Was there back and forth
Speaker 1: early because I know, I went just from North count
Speaker 1: to Ucla and I was homesick. I tried to push
Speaker 1: back to North count every weekend. Did you ever get
Speaker 1: a chance to come back and forth? You were just
Speaker 1: that I didn't come back. Really, I didn't come back. Choice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a boy, a choice. So I come home for like
Speaker 1: one week in the summer. I'm really I come home
Speaker 1: one week, say hi to mom, chill, I'm back in
Speaker 1: kans It was times I was on Kansas campus by myself, wow,
Speaker 1: like and I was just like I need to do
Speaker 1: that's that's why. And that was the smartest thing I
Speaker 1: ever did. You know. I was on the summer school
Speaker 1: and I was like, I can't come home because of
Speaker 1: the guys who I grew up in a guys who
Speaker 1: I'm around. They ended up dad around jail, and I said,
Speaker 1: I don't need to be in that environment. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: so that was my road, and I'm happy I made
Speaker 1: that decision because people was like, why are you going
Speaker 1: to Kansas? You know doing? I said, Man, I'll see
Speaker 1: y'all later. I got a dream, and this is my
Speaker 1: way to get to that train. Yeah, I tell Jack.
Speaker 1: I mean Jack was on the road to Arizona. UM
Speaker 1: didn't happen. He took a different route to get to
Speaker 1: the league. But I tell people all the time, like
Speaker 1: going to college UCLA was some of the best times
Speaker 1: in my life. Where do you guys, Miss Cheryl you first,
Speaker 1: what do you miss most about college? All that bread,
Speaker 1: all that bread? They were women players money back then.
Speaker 1: She had her own shoes and all that college dog
Speaker 1: No one did not he did. It was lacing her
Speaker 1: when she showed up. You just you didn't just show
Speaker 1: up there because you wanted to. They got you the
Speaker 1: type of weight I did not like. My mama said
Speaker 1: that's where you need to go. And this time I listen,
Speaker 1: that's okay. I mean they may have, you know, the
Speaker 1: little hand shake, but it was nothing like today, I
Speaker 1: think for me, like the freedom of just being able
Speaker 1: to yeah, right, and then the other part would be
Speaker 1: this time of year, like March madness and the fans
Speaker 1: and like everywhere you go, it's all about who like
Speaker 1: what we're about to do. So you said kind of
Speaker 1: the freedom to live. I feel like college is like
Speaker 1: that last kind of like our little bubble, like a
Speaker 1: little before we had to jump into the real world too.
Speaker 1: You got to live a little bit, but it was
Speaker 1: still like a little bit of a bubble because you still,
Speaker 1: even though you have that freedom right to at least think, think,
Speaker 1: you grows, you still had somebody that was looking after you, right,
Speaker 1: And I could still go home to mama right in
Speaker 1: the street. Yeah, And I don't have that now, right,
Speaker 1: I hear you. You man, that was my first time.
Speaker 1: You know, college is that experience where it's your first
Speaker 1: time on your own, especially since I went so far away.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I got my own apartment now,
Speaker 1: you know. And they looked at California people different, don't
Speaker 1: they don't They look like California is like, well, I've
Speaker 1: always found one other places in California. You always loved that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you always looked that different, right, They like they like
Speaker 1: our swag and all that. But they it's the calig people.
Speaker 1: Y'all think y'all better than everybody else. Like that. We got,
Speaker 1: you know, we got a little to our stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're coming in confidence, That's what I'm saying. We're coming
Speaker 1: in confidence. We colleged at the girls, We're like yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: My mom was happy that I even almost made it
Speaker 1: to college. She was all about going to college. I
Speaker 1: got an opportunity to go. I didn't make it, but
Speaker 1: just the fact that I tried that she was proud
Speaker 1: of me. Yeah, yeah, she was proud of that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that was your opportunity to just like grow up, you know,
Speaker 1: the opportunity to learn how to become a man. Because
Speaker 1: now moms ain't washing my clothes, she ain't cooking medium meals.
Speaker 1: So that's where I learned just more responsibility and helped
Speaker 1: me become a man. You know. I started learning how
Speaker 1: to cook. I'll be calling my how you make the spaghetti,
Speaker 1: how you put this together, how to make a little
Speaker 1: dishes to get me through. Start learning how to wash
Speaker 1: my clothes and earn my own stuff. You didn't yeah,
Speaker 1: still do still more Roman in the league then twenty
Speaker 1: different ways. That's why I took that step just to sport,
Speaker 1: making that big jump, right CHERYLD. What was your first
Speaker 1: taste of NCAA, the ncable A tournament march matters. What
Speaker 1: was that like for you? Oh? Um, I mean, like everybody,
Speaker 1: it's exciting, but I think the first one for me
Speaker 1: was like the unknown and everybody's saying we weren't good enough,
Speaker 1: we shouldn't have been there, like all of that stuff.
Speaker 1: But like I've I've never had a problem being confident
Speaker 1: in me and my ability and that like put me
Speaker 1: on the basketball court. That's the one place that like
Speaker 1: you can't tell me that I can't. You knew you
Speaker 1: was nice like I did. But I knew I was
Speaker 1: nice because I put the work in, I put the
Speaker 1: time in, I put the sacrifices. So I think for me,
Speaker 1: my first experience was like like one game at a time,
Speaker 1: not looking past anybody because it's like zero zero, it's
Speaker 1: a new season, so it doesn't matter what you did
Speaker 1: in the regular season because just like you're here there here.
Speaker 1: So I just remember going into every single game saying,
Speaker 1: we gotta win this one to get to the next one.
Speaker 1: You gotta win that one to get to But I
Speaker 1: never looked past any opponent. And because of like the
Speaker 1: way I grew up in my journey, and so a
Speaker 1: lot of people thought I went to junior college because
Speaker 1: I wasn't smart enough to go to a Division one.
Speaker 1: But here's what the past. Well that's what they think.
Speaker 1: Why are you pointing? Point, I didn't fas it. You
Speaker 1: know what? You know, what's the worst one about it?
Speaker 1: What don't tell me? Arizona one a national championship, my rookie,
Speaker 1: my freshman year. Yeah, they put us on that team.
Speaker 1: Damn you for looking at me. But point, that's they
Speaker 1: put us out. Imagine on that team with my with
Speaker 1: with Witherson, Miles Simon would have been the Miles Laft.
Speaker 1: He would have been there with JT. Yeah. Well he
Speaker 1: wouldn't have stayed that long, but he was. Michael was
Speaker 1: your your year right then Michael was together. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: wouldn't have had that he was out of course. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm ninety five. So we played them in nineties. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they put us out. They won a national championship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the thing I didn't know that Jack. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with going to a junior college. And
Speaker 1: I always say everybody's journey is different for me. I
Speaker 1: didn't want to sit out, so I went to a
Speaker 1: junior college. But like I said earlier, the best decision
Speaker 1: I ever made. Right, So when you talk about like
Speaker 1: this time of year in the NC DOUABAA Tournament, I
Speaker 1: just like the excitement of like get past this one
Speaker 1: and what's next and who's next? And because ultimately you're
Speaker 1: trying to win a national championship, and because a lot
Speaker 1: of people told me when I left the University of
Speaker 1: Texas I would never win an actual championship. That was
Speaker 1: like the fuel that kept me and low and behold, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the teams had by four five stars. She asked a
Speaker 1: good teammates, but she was basically our defense was a
Speaker 1: two three zone, right and we whah. You guys had
Speaker 1: a tremendous with Alan Field. What was your home field house?
Speaker 1: Tremendous home court um still to this day, what was
Speaker 1: the biggest difference from regular season to March madness for you?
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, like you said, allan Field House was amazing,
Speaker 1: fan fair popping, but the tournament, this is my first
Speaker 1: time seeing like the real fan fair, like outside of
Speaker 1: the arena. So like for me, you know, it was
Speaker 1: beyond court. So like flying in my first tournament and
Speaker 1: going to the hotel and seeing all these people at
Speaker 1: the in the lobby because y'all travel well too, can
Speaker 1: travel well, right, you know, I'm as travel I never
Speaker 1: saw that. So like freshman year, I come in, we're
Speaker 1: checking in, they roping it off, and I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at all these things, about a thousand fans
Speaker 1: in the parking lot, in the lobby, in the in
Speaker 1: the ballet, and then all these cameras from these television
Speaker 1: and that's my first time, just so many cameras. And
Speaker 1: I think we talked about this before, like you know,
Speaker 1: as a freshman I first time seeing it, I'm like, damn. Media,
Speaker 1: just the media presence was like a credible I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: this is what it's all about, you know, because when
Speaker 1: I watched when I was in high school, it was
Speaker 1: just like, you know, you got chills watching it, And
Speaker 1: just to be a part of it now, it was
Speaker 1: just like it was why I was a wide eyed kid.
Speaker 1: And you know, unfortunately I didn't get a chance to
Speaker 1: win a championship, a national championship. Just to be a
Speaker 1: part of it though, was just just amazing to experience
Speaker 1: every year. You know, a couple of years we were
Speaker 1: the favorite and got upset, and that's the biggest heartbreak
Speaker 1: you know, you can ever you can ever have that young,
Speaker 1: you know, because hey, Kansas, I also got the best
Speaker 1: junior colleges. Yeah they do. They got to do the
Speaker 1: junior college with the most money in Kansas too. You
Speaker 1: know that's crazy. You said, I was just talking to
Speaker 1: somebody about that, Butler, Yeah, they do. I went up
Speaker 1: for four days. I was you said that somebody about that.
Speaker 1: They got good four days. I went the money. Okay.
Speaker 1: Do you guys recall, whether it be a team or
Speaker 1: a player while you're in college, Paul, you remember who
Speaker 1: was your toughest player you played in college? The first
Speaker 1: time you've seen someone like, oh damn, or played against
Speaker 1: somebody or a team that was just yeah, it was Arizona, dude,
Speaker 1: it was it was Michael Dickerson. He was man. He
Speaker 1: was a problem. I'm showing you because I had to
Speaker 1: see him a couple of years in a row in
Speaker 1: the tournament. He was a problem. I'm gonna lie. And
Speaker 1: he had back issues in the league, right, was that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That his first was incredible heights. He was one of
Speaker 1: the top players. I had to match up within the
Speaker 1: tournament like con secutive years, and I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: I had to match up with him. I think my
Speaker 1: freshman and sophomore year, I was like, this, dude is
Speaker 1: incredible because I stopped. He was strong, daddy was a boxer.
Speaker 1: He was built like a boxer or something. Because I
Speaker 1: got the norm, Uh, how do I get the norm?
Speaker 1: Probably I think we made some preseason All American teams
Speaker 1: after and I got the norm and just learned a
Speaker 1: little bit about him. But he was a problem for me.
Speaker 1: Did you say, like, I'm gonna shut him down tonight,
Speaker 1: but like you didn't know nothing too much about him,
Speaker 1: But then when you finally played against somebody, because I
Speaker 1: felt like I was one of the top players, so
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I'm good man. He had
Speaker 1: one of the most live dribble jabs that it was
Speaker 1: the quickest you already know it was. It was like
Speaker 1: I can't even explain it, but he buyed. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: was like, they're all ready for it, and I know
Speaker 1: that gonna do. Yeah. He just keep going, oh my god,
Speaker 1: and then he had to pull up jumper and then
Speaker 1: he was strong, so he had hit me with the shoulder.
Speaker 1: I was I ain't never felt this before. I'd mastered
Speaker 1: up with some cool casts, but he was. He was
Speaker 1: a problem Shared. What about you? No? Nothing ever? Shared
Speaker 1: was everybody else's night. Now. She wasn't head of the game.
Speaker 1: She was had a game. It wasn't two three Shared
Speaker 1: was out there at that time. It wasn't. It wasn't
Speaker 1: like that. I don't remember like a player, but like
Speaker 1: the University of Texas, just like they were just good.
Speaker 1: And for me it was a little different because I
Speaker 1: left right, So every time we played them, I went
Speaker 1: into a game saying that Jody Conrad, who was the
Speaker 1: coach that recruited me, told them like give her the
Speaker 1: business because she left. I don't know if that was true,
Speaker 1: but I thought that so every time right, So every
Speaker 1: time we played them, it was it was a battle,
Speaker 1: and I took it personally. So it was just a
Speaker 1: different person for me, you know. The laugh person who
Speaker 1: said I didn't like that on video just said I
Speaker 1: took that person that personally. For me, it was probably
Speaker 1: Arizona too, because when I was at Arizona, had Gilbert Arenas,
Speaker 1: R J. Michael Wright, rest in Peace. They had good
Speaker 1: teams there, like real and then Duke had like Boozer,
Speaker 1: jay Will that never the Jay Will that the ESPN.
Speaker 1: I don't think people know how cold Jay Will was.
Speaker 1: Will a motherfuck man. Jay Will was super nice us Arizona. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those are those dudes. They set the bar, especially Gilbert.
Speaker 1: That's what kind of was Gilbert. So I remember coming
Speaker 1: because you know, you know the UCLA pickup game. I
Speaker 1: remember gil used to come to UCLA and they would
Speaker 1: never let him play. Yeah, for some mean he went
Speaker 1: to Grant High School. He never let him play. So
Speaker 1: Gilbert shoot on the side and sometimes between games if
Speaker 1: I lost, I would rebound for him and he would
Speaker 1: just shoot. And he always remember him telling like he
Speaker 1: held that that was a chip on his shoulder. So
Speaker 1: when he came into college, bro Gilbert, I remember he
Speaker 1: gave our boy Ray Young like a cool forty piece.
Speaker 1: It was a great sup with that good as Yeah,
Speaker 1: gil Gil check that Gill was a killer. Matt, did
Speaker 1: you talk shit? I wasn't. Really, I wasn't. I was
Speaker 1: never in college. You know, you can't you all I
Speaker 1: did in high school and and in the streets, but
Speaker 1: when you got to college you stood one thing. It
Speaker 1: was different, super different. Yeah, super dusty. College wasn't really college. Yep,
Speaker 1: yeah I couldn't have done it. I still made it work.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we did quick promo. This year, b Doubs
Speaker 1: is running back their overtime wing time promo. Get this,
Speaker 1: if a manager women's tournament games goes into overtime, you
Speaker 1: get free for six free bonus wings, six free of
Speaker 1: them bore bonus though free. I'm talking about to you,
Speaker 1: HBCUs have really been making a heavy push. You're someone
Speaker 1: that's intricral in that you donated money to your brother
Speaker 1: Bonds and his program. Explain what you'll be doing um
Speaker 1: for the HBCU tournament. Well, I'm honored to be doing
Speaker 1: the opening monologue for the HBCU All Star Game. They're
Speaker 1: not making you read, are they? Yeah? That was there,
Speaker 1: But I've been doing the show to my reader's gotten
Speaker 1: a lot better, as you see because I'm reading now. Yes,
Speaker 1: So I'm doing over my life for the HBCU All
Speaker 1: Star Game, which is gonna be awesome. I'm honored to
Speaker 1: be able to do that. My mom went to TSU
Speaker 1: right in here soon where the game has been here
Speaker 1: right ward while I was born and raised. I was five.
Speaker 1: Rest in peace, George Floyd. So h being here and
Speaker 1: having an All Star Game, the HBCU also game here
Speaker 1: in Houston. I think it's great to bring to be
Speaker 1: able to bring it also to what George West fuming
Speaker 1: and that TSU area's beneficial for a lot of people
Speaker 1: to be able to come out and support the HBCU
Speaker 1: brand and the All Star Game. Is this the second
Speaker 1: year for the Allstar Game, And I'm excited to be involved.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn get a chance to go to college.
Speaker 1: But if I could help shine light on the HBCUs
Speaker 1: and be a part of it and need to get
Speaker 1: into where it needs to be, I'm definitely on. So
Speaker 1: shout out the CBS and I appreciate it because I'm
Speaker 1: a I'm a big fan of the HBCU. But we
Speaker 1: all know, you know, we all went to big colleges.
Speaker 1: The resources are so much different when you go to
Speaker 1: a UCLA at Kansas Tech to Tech. But obviously we
Speaker 1: want to push HBCUs, but they need funding, right So
Speaker 1: being able to do stuff like this shines light on it,
Speaker 1: and I think it's very important because they have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to see what Dion Sanders. Did you see Moe
Speaker 1: Williams over there coaching? Now your bonds? Who else? Oh?
Speaker 1: J R. Smith j I've gone back to college and golf.
Speaker 1: So there's a light on it right now. But they
Speaker 1: definitely need that kind of funding, So I think it's important.
Speaker 1: Everybody's favorite all time flavor on the wing, Sheryl, you first,
Speaker 1: lemon pepper, all day every day. I'm eating them right now.
Speaker 1: Lemon lemon pepper for you, original buffalo, original buffalo, keep
Speaker 1: it simple, but they broke. Don't fix that ball. So
Speaker 1: my favorite is lemon pepper as well. But I would
Speaker 1: like to make a suggestion. If I'm allowed to Buffalo
Speaker 1: wil wings lemon pepper barbecue, you've got a shot. What
Speaker 1: say Shoemasons suggestions? Honey hot, Okay, it's popular in the
Speaker 1: black community. We might need to do all the smoke.
Speaker 1: Madden stack exception collapse. I like that next time around. First,
Speaker 1: when you bring us back this summer, let's give that
Speaker 1: a try. Buffalo. We eat your wings. We love it,
Speaker 1: and we love to get the bus to give them
Speaker 1: the recipe. There we go, all right. Top five. This
Speaker 1: is gonna be a collaborative effort. It's gonna be men
Speaker 1: to take the word again collaborative. Ask my top five
Speaker 1: all time college players gonna be a group. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: started out it still, Pete. I think for me, I'm
Speaker 1: a name grand hillers up there because I used to
Speaker 1: watch you men women. Cheryl Miller, Oh, good, call the
Speaker 1: old Bannon brothers. That's two of them. Let's just go
Speaker 1: with Ed. Okay, we go with who's the last one
Speaker 1: we got? I'll not say so we no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you know what. But if you want to say just
Speaker 1: college no move my moove move was a problem dog?
Speaker 1: Good call God hitstill Pete mich mood, Cheryl Miller, who'd
Speaker 1: you pick? I said, you said my mood? Grandma old Bannon.
Speaker 1: I want to change rand Childress wait for wait far
Speaker 1: as he was killing? Who he crossed over? Edd Coda,
Speaker 1: Jeff McGinnis. It looked at him, Damn Jeff. Kids across
Speaker 1: America doing that my bad. I mean, I think I
Speaker 1: already know this answer. You guys can shout it out
Speaker 1: at the same time. Drums are flats and two three
Speaker 1: flats flats? Why you guys like flats so much? To
Speaker 1: eat as say that? Yeah, you can eat him quickly.
Speaker 1: They taste better to me. Okay, I think there's a
Speaker 1: little bit more meat on the flats than the drums. Okay,
Speaker 1: I like your reasoning. Be dub and dripped. B Dub
Speaker 1: has the best sauces. Who what are the athletes? You
Speaker 1: feel like? The best drip in any sport? You don't
Speaker 1: even have to be basketball. Who someone is? Just don't
Speaker 1: feel bad. Don't feel like you have to say my
Speaker 1: name because you know, but don't feel like you have
Speaker 1: to say my name. You got good drill Okay, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: you got good drip. I got drippy athletes. You know
Speaker 1: who got the who got who got good drip? Roving people? Lately?
Speaker 1: That kid from Oklahoma shake shake, yeah, yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1: Stop would you say that? Who would you say? I'm
Speaker 1: in college? Okay? Coach coach the one and only sting
Speaker 1: like she's fresh all the time for Texas sister Yes,
Speaker 1: Sitney Carter snyr yeah shout, may not like about the
Speaker 1: University of Texas, Sydney she flied, Yeah, Jack, that's your
Speaker 1: pay too. Who Yeah, No, I'm gonna go with the
Speaker 1: NBA player because you know I'm gonna say Russell Westbrook. Okay,
Speaker 1: shout out of stuff that looked weird. But I like
Speaker 1: the fact that his compidence. I will I want to well,
Speaker 1: damn if you like it or not. How many wings
Speaker 1: can you eat in one city, Paul? How many wings
Speaker 1: can you eat in one city? I've counted mine, so
Speaker 1: I know my aunts. I'm twenty four, were going half
Speaker 1: of that twelve twelve piece Jack, I ate nineteen before
Speaker 1: one sitting bone definitely bone in. Don't do that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think you want to say during this show, I
Speaker 1: ain't about eleven. I was really home twelve and then
Speaker 1: I'll go do some stuff. I mean, come back well,
Speaker 1: wing to something you could like, because even if they
Speaker 1: get cold, they're still good most food. If they gets cold,
Speaker 1: it's done. The ways you can out. Wings sleep right
Speaker 1: here on this bed, right on this bed. Back the
Speaker 1: eat some wings, go back to sleep, Eat some hot sauce,
Speaker 1: go back to sleep on. Put the jacket on and
Speaker 1: try it on, go back to sleep. Eat some of these,
Speaker 1: and they all gonna be good about Put the PJS on.
Speaker 1: Pj's one. They got everything, bro. We got snippers for
Speaker 1: them too. It did best sport to watch. I think
Speaker 1: this is a tosser for me. Best sport to watch.
Speaker 1: Why eating wings and why I would say boxing for me? Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm a big time boxing geting nice through my hands.
Speaker 1: I had a long week of boxing them fight town.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I'm saying. I'm hurting right now.
Speaker 1: I'm brothers Rose too right now. Y'all don't know it,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's been a tough people with them. Guys.
Speaker 1: We appreciate you making to appreciate it, made it through.
Speaker 1: But me boxing ro who who you saying? Roho? Right
Speaker 1: with my cass Rose Rose favorite sports Wings and it's
Speaker 1: probably a house up for me. Absolutely hoops. I almost
Speaker 1: say hoops in football football for show yause that's the
Speaker 1: Sunday middle of the day. Yeah, I'd be locking the
Speaker 1: man cave with some tree and don't fuck with me
Speaker 1: and my wings if it's not sports. I love to
Speaker 1: watch all the smoking Wings. Okay, yeah, shameless plug. Now
Speaker 1: we are playing a game called the Truth or there
Speaker 1: the truth Truth. It's that time of the night, y'all,
Speaker 1: Hall and Cheryls and Stack, here we go. First up, Stack,
Speaker 1: scroll through your contacts and FaceTime the person that lands
Speaker 1: on or you can eat one of the blazing hot
Speaker 1: Carolina Reapers I'm gonna scroll on facetimes. Somebody just scroll.
Speaker 1: You don't get to pick. I don't close your eyes
Speaker 1: and scrawl. Let them get on there. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: right to the scroll ready pick, push, push, No, I
Speaker 1: can't call that person season school. Okay, well that's we
Speaker 1: need napkins. Cheryl, your childhood crush. You skipped one. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean I he's eating right now, so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go back to it. That's nothing that anyway. I gotta
Speaker 1: take that shit, got that rate, that one, got the
Speaker 1: you got, you gotta eat, You got the share your
Speaker 1: crush crush, say his name first at last. If he's married,
Speaker 1: Now it's okay, that's Michael Jay, Michael Jordan for real,
Speaker 1: childhood adult, Paul, put your mouth under the buffalo ranch
Speaker 1: and get a mouthful or eat a hot wings overheat?
Speaker 1: Where's it that right? You gotta you gotta come on,
Speaker 1: don't a couple of pumps of the buffalo ranch or
Speaker 1: the hot way that shit that's hot, that's not hot.
Speaker 1: That's you, John, I hold it for you. I'm not
Speaker 1: I didn't have that one word that work as well
Speaker 1: as that the buffalo it's cool. Have you ever text
Speaker 1: somebody something bad that was meant for another person. Somebody
Speaker 1: every accidentally text the wrong person something yes or no answer.
Speaker 1: It was man, I mean, so I'm gonna say yes
Speaker 1: that means eat a wing? That was a trick question.
Speaker 1: Can't let me read? I don't have my glasses. Someone
Speaker 1: that another person? But why am I eating just because
Speaker 1: because you say yes? Stack? I'm seeing the whole ball this. Actually,
Speaker 1: this might be the hardest one. Stacks say something nice
Speaker 1: about Tony Parker eat another wing. Tony Parker won a
Speaker 1: championship on the Antonio Spurs. About that? That's nicengragulations, Tony?
Speaker 1: Do I have to eat the whole thing? Holy shit?
Speaker 1: I don't want to eat a wing without using your hand.
Speaker 1: What if I got to do instead? Okay, I'll eat
Speaker 1: it with my hands. Nobody if you eat that with
Speaker 1: no ask nobody's watching all the smoking more. Come on,
Speaker 1: we're just not eating wings without here. That's gonna feels
Speaker 1: that some sprite. Please y'all sucking us up. I don't
Speaker 1: even like this game no more. See y'alls. The wings
Speaker 1: dip the ship and ice supposed to dip the wood. Paul,
Speaker 1: there weren't no rules there shore I'll stop. The most
Speaker 1: embarrassing locker room moment. You don't get to do that. Damn,
Speaker 1: my most embarrassing moment. Oh it's no good. Listen, no good,
Speaker 1: I don't detail. Oh listen, tap dancing on my stomach,
Speaker 1: most embrass moment in the locker almost embarrassing moments. Embarrassing
Speaker 1: moment in the locker room. Oh, I got hits. Whenever
Speaker 1: you hiccups, you get the hiccups. You know. I don't
Speaker 1: like that when it's too hot. I get this, So
Speaker 1: tap record this is I'll recording this is I'll recording
Speaker 1: this one. Yet, damn, this is this is that real?
Speaker 1: It's that real? It's real? Is that real? Because it so?
Speaker 1: I eat next? I can't take it. So you know
Speaker 1: that NA this place, most embarrassing locker room bobble, I think,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Holy hell. Maybe slipping slipping on the
Speaker 1: way to the shower, naked ar most embarrassing room. Get
Speaker 1: some ice cream, man, this is real. Oh no, come
Speaker 1: onna be just join in it. I look, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: gonna call you to y'all. The thieves ain't shit, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: feel me they over here. I can, like I do
Speaker 1: a commercial. These ain't you feel me? Look at the
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take this down like on me, no water,
Speaker 1: no white springs, okay on me? Yeah? Over here, the
Speaker 1: wait go ahead be you know what I'm saying. Let
Speaker 1: me look at it for your fingers getting hot. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take this down there, Jack. Last question, everybody, how
Speaker 1: would you rate your looks on a scale of one
Speaker 1: to ten? On the one to ten To be honest
Speaker 1: with myself, I ain't go crazy. I know I ain't
Speaker 1: to have some nigga in the world, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say ten, okay, Cheryl, One to ten depends on the day,
Speaker 1: best day right now? How you feeling himself? Right now?
Speaker 1: I'm I'm loving right there? The finished it? Yo? Okay? Okay,
Speaker 1: me an that's all I need. Okay, I can get
Speaker 1: your napking, we can get your napping blo, get your
Speaker 1: napka fee. It's a rapper napping fee. Yeah. Don't give
Speaker 1: him nothing to drink because it win't right. It's coming.
Speaker 1: You better chew on that. Na. You ain't getting breaking
Speaker 1: drink that napping because you ain't getting no water nothing.
Speaker 1: You ain't getting nothing. You ain't getting nothing. Yea ys
Speaker 1: that ghost? Yeah, see what it is. You know when
Speaker 1: the ghost I'm cool that you know where to go
Speaker 1: to first up on you and you don't see it.
Speaker 1: That's the places crazy. It's all about the breathing. You
Speaker 1: do yoga and I do breathe. Ain't got nothing to
Speaker 1: do with that. Yeah, we're good. That's the question again,
Speaker 1: Ranch your look on the one to ten. Look on
Speaker 1: the one ten. I'm I'm a cool solid eight. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's not I get a cute solid I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give myself a twenty two one number. How about
Speaker 1: thank you, Buffalo Wild Wings. That was Truther Dan Free Train,
Speaker 1: Paul Pierce and Cheryl's Swoop Swoop, I want to breathe
Speaker 1: got in day and my brother still five. We appreciate y'all.
Speaker 1: With Fisher Home of March Madness. We'll see y'all this summer.
Speaker 1: Holy count