WEBVTT - Kinky Bottoms with Ross Mathews

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<v Speaker 1>Hi everybody. While I'm taking the month of September off

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<v Speaker 1>of doing stand up, I return on October one to

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<v Speaker 1>complete my Vaccinated and Horny Tour. October, November, and December,

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<v Speaker 1>I have new dates up. I kick it off in Saratoga, California,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm coming to all parts of California, Long Beach, Bakersfield.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to Niagara Falls, Tucson, Arizona, Colorado, Minneapolis, San Diego, Reading, Pennsylvania,

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<v Speaker 1>and Baltimore, Maryland, just to name a few. There's also

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<v Speaker 1>some Floridian dates in there, since this will be my

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<v Speaker 1>last year that I'm able to go inside the state

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<v Speaker 1>of Florida. So check out Chelsea handler dot com for

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<v Speaker 1>more stand up dates for my Vaccinated in Horny Tour.

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<v Speaker 1>These are my last dates. Okay, Hi Catherine, Oh Hi Chelsea. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the studio. We're in studio together in Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles. I love when we get to me together.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, it's so nice and now that

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<v Speaker 1>we sit on the same side of the window, especially especially,

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<v Speaker 1>not especially. I did an announcement on my Instagram A

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<v Speaker 1>P S A as I like to call them about

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<v Speaker 1>the words especially and espresso. That they do not have

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<v Speaker 1>exes in them that they are says Actually, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there were a couple of comments about it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's being really racist, thinking about how different cultures use

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<v Speaker 1>language and different educational systems, and it's a socio economic

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<v Speaker 1>class this thing to say. I'm like, not at all,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that is a thing that like white college educated

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<v Speaker 1>people are abusing that word expect when they say especially,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't because they get it wrong. I got it wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you say especially? Honestly don't remember Exhibit A. Then

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just tell anyway. Fuck. I liked your

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<v Speaker 1>regime regimen correction because I mean, man, I hear it

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<v Speaker 1>all the time and it drives me nuts. Yeah, so,

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<v Speaker 1>and then why is that not racist regime and regiment

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<v Speaker 1>and or classist if it's like it's like, no, you're

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<v Speaker 1>correcting grammar. Grammar should be used correctly, and you know, yeah, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I love the language and that's my past Shin Chelsea.

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<v Speaker 1>We did have a little bit of an interesting stuphoo

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<v Speaker 1>over the last couple of days with our Dear Chelsea

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<v Speaker 1>podcast email. Oh god, I know, I'm such an idiot.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like Ben Bruno is going to be on the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's the Catherine side texted me and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>would you get some questions about fitness for Ben Bruno

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<v Speaker 1>because he's too talk about anything else. And and then

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, Dear Chelsea podcast at gmail dot

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<v Speaker 1>com and it's Dear Chelsea project at Gmail, which actually

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<v Speaker 1>makes no sense. So it doesn't because this was like

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<v Speaker 1>just a like a secret project at the beginning. So

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<v Speaker 1>that was the email sc project. But then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>of course people are saying in your d m s like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, we can't get through it says unavailable.

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<v Speaker 1>So what Brad did, He's just a lifesaver. He went

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<v Speaker 1>and set up Dear Chelsea podcast at Gmail. Okay, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you Brad for doing that, for picking up the

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<v Speaker 1>pieces of my messy Saturday mornings. But my favorite thing, Chelsea,

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<v Speaker 1>I did not tell you this before, but you did

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<v Speaker 1>a correction and I had a picture you had the

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<v Speaker 1>correction on there and it was same wrong. I just

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well, let's set up attention to details unparalleled.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. So I just thought I would let

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<v Speaker 1>you in on that. But you know what I think

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<v Speaker 1>now we're going to just change that. So gays you

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<v Speaker 1>can write. We'll start calling it Dear Chelsea project dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go back Dory. They'll both work now, so send

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<v Speaker 1>away and then we and then Ben Bruto and I

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<v Speaker 1>did like an Instagram story when I was at his

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<v Speaker 1>gym the other morning, and I did it wrong too.

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<v Speaker 1>I said to your Chelsea podcast or Dear Chelsea podcast, amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Just don't send it to dear Chelsea at gmail dot

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<v Speaker 1>com because that's a different heard of from me. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>use that email address. Just check with me, guys, just yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>get him my I d M. I'll let I'll let

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<v Speaker 1>you know where to send it. My guest today is

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<v Speaker 1>an old friend from Chelsea Lately Days who everyone will know,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's on Rue Paul's Drag Race. He is the

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<v Speaker 1>host of the Drew Barrymore Show, which has just been

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<v Speaker 1>picked up for season three, so congratulations on that. And

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<v Speaker 1>he has his own new podcast which premiered mid September

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<v Speaker 1>and it is called Hello Ross, and I will be

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<v Speaker 1>on the very first episode. Ross Matthews. Everybody, Hi, Hi, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>because I was so happy to see you. Hi. Cutie,

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<v Speaker 1>Petuity Fresh and fruity extra fruity, what's up? Where are

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<v Speaker 1>your you? In l A. I am where are you

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<v Speaker 1>Palm Springs? No, no, no no, we're we We bought a

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<v Speaker 1>house in Long Island, so we're here because we're starting

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<v Speaker 1>Drew up again. I thought you bought a place in

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<v Speaker 1>Palm Springs. So I have a house and Palm Springs.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when I came here for Drew and then married,

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<v Speaker 1>welly he's faced in Long Island because that's where he

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<v Speaker 1>works here. So we bought a house here and I

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<v Speaker 1>love it out here. Oh that's great, and so are

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<v Speaker 1>you gonna keep your place in Palm Springs. We're back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth. My brother lives there. It's like a compound,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. My brother lives there with the dogs. He

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<v Speaker 1>watches them. Huge, dude, I love it. Congratulations, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>there's so much to catch up on. And Hi, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, this is my producer, Katherine. Hi, Katherine, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Ross Matthews is here today. Hello Hillo, Ross Matthews. It

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<v Speaker 1>is so good to see you. It has been too long.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, even though we did get to get together

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<v Speaker 1>and have like a happy hour thing not that long ago.

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<v Speaker 1>It was remember, Yeah, I was there, you were there, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in New York City. I went Barbara were at the

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<v Speaker 1>famous Ritz St Regis St Regis. That's right, what's up

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<v Speaker 1>bar called? I never remember, but they have the popcorn

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<v Speaker 1>of my life there, Remember that truffle popcorn that I

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<v Speaker 1>have since how to make it so good? We had

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<v Speaker 1>a little reunion. It was Fortune and Jack's and Welly

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<v Speaker 1>Ross's now husband, and Joe Coy myself and we all

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<v Speaker 1>went and it was so much fun and it was

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<v Speaker 1>like a little Yeah, that was a really fun night.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw those pictures on the Instagram. They were on

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<v Speaker 1>the gram. Well, Joe Coy and I have broken up. Ross.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that you've heard. I know I did here,

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<v Speaker 1>I texted you. I know. I love you both, and

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<v Speaker 1>that one one that would hurt I have say, did

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<v Speaker 1>it hurt me as much as it hurt you? It

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<v Speaker 1>hurt me more? Maybe I don't know. No, it hurt me.

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<v Speaker 1>It was. It was painful. It was you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to break up any time, especially when you you know,

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<v Speaker 1>thought you were gonna be with somebody for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to like, go, wait a second, this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>what I thought it was going to be. That sucks.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not as so many people invested in you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know I think it was. It was something

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<v Speaker 1>we needed after the pandemic, and you know what it

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<v Speaker 1>was still, it was beautiful. It was beautiful for what

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<v Speaker 1>it was and when it was. And I hope your

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<v Speaker 1>heart is good. Yeah it is. I'm good now. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel a lot of I've healed a lot in the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of months. It's only been a couple of months,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel a lot I think now. We were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this on another podcast earlier this week. I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say, like having the skills from going to

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<v Speaker 1>therapy about how to deal with grieving and the end

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<v Speaker 1>of a relationship and to act like an adult instead

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<v Speaker 1>of like a kid is the best gift ever. Too. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I love the way that I have behaved, and I

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<v Speaker 1>can't say at about many times in my life I've

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<v Speaker 1>been there for some of those times. I can. I can,

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<v Speaker 1>I can attest to my bad behavior. But like, especially

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<v Speaker 1>with breakups, when there's drama, or there's hurt feelings, or

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<v Speaker 1>there's egos involved, it's so easy to lower your vibration

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<v Speaker 1>and to fight nasty instead of taking the high road

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<v Speaker 1>and always just being like it's okay, it's okay. It

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<v Speaker 1>didn't work out. Can we go deep for a second,

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<v Speaker 1>because I had a thought. Sure, I think grief grief,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm someone who's dealt with grief, right I lost

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<v Speaker 1>both my parents, has been it was. It's tough. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to learn to do that. You've done that

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<v Speaker 1>as well. I think grief is grief. Whether it's a

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<v Speaker 1>breakup or a death or a loss, it is. It

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<v Speaker 1>is what it is. And I feel like the first

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<v Speaker 1>time you really experienced grief is how you approach it

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of forever, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>until you do the work to change it. And so

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<v Speaker 1>if you first experienced grief as a young kid, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you went back there even in adulthood until you learned

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<v Speaker 1>how to navigate it correctly. And you did as the

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<v Speaker 1>young kid. I think about that all the time, that

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<v Speaker 1>you went through that when you're so Yeah, that's true,

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<v Speaker 1>Glenn and Doyle said something like that. She had heard

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<v Speaker 1>something like sometimes you recreate all of your childhood trauma

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<v Speaker 1>to try and correct it and correct your reaction to

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<v Speaker 1>it and the ending two things, And yeah, I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with that. I mean, the only thing you can ever

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<v Speaker 1>hope for in this lifetime is to become more evolved.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean for me, I always just want to get

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<v Speaker 1>more informed, more evolved, and become a better version of myself. Right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And you suck it up the first time, in the

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<v Speaker 1>second time, in the third time, and by like the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth time, let's get our ship together, right and let

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of life. If you can buy the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>time kind of figure it out, then you're you're on

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<v Speaker 1>the right track. And also, I think something that's really

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<v Speaker 1>valid is having an interest. We were just talking to

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who thought, you know, therapy with self indulgent or

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<v Speaker 1>navel gazing or unnecessary. It's like, it is so important

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<v Speaker 1>to be with somebody who has the capacity and the

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge to be smart enough to understand that there are

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<v Speaker 1>things inside of us that need to be examined. That

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<v Speaker 1>there are you have to self examine. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>understand why you do things so that you don't hurt people,

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<v Speaker 1>and that you don't behave in a childish way when

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<v Speaker 1>you're an adult. You know, like that's no fun, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to do that. But I think if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to be in any sort of elevated relationship with yourself

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<v Speaker 1>or with anybody else that really can go anywhere, then

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<v Speaker 1>you have to do the work. I mean, some people

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<v Speaker 1>are fine just sitting there, not examining things, not working

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<v Speaker 1>it out. But I promise you and you're you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I look at your growth just in terms of like

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<v Speaker 1>your heart, just knowing you for how many years has

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<v Speaker 1>it been known? Almost twenty years? Probably probably you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I see it in you, and not that you needed to,

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<v Speaker 1>but I see a different version of you now, an

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<v Speaker 1>evolved version. I think we all do, you know? And

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<v Speaker 1>I love that you're so open about that dream. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's like it is a compliment. It is.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you've been through some difficult breakups and now

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a real happy relationship. How did that work

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<v Speaker 1>for you? That kind of arc? I think you have

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<v Speaker 1>to be grateful and that sort of makes such peace

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<v Speaker 1>with whatever you've been through because it does sort of

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<v Speaker 1>form who you are. And I have been able you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I met my husband, which is so weird to say,

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<v Speaker 1>but my husband I met almost three years ago. And

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<v Speaker 1>if I hadn't met him when I met him as

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<v Speaker 1>a human I was when I met him, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have been ready for what he has done for me

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of holding a mirror up to me and

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<v Speaker 1>holding a mirror up to the world. You know, is

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<v Speaker 1>a person of color, a gay immigrant person of color

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<v Speaker 1>who's worked his way up in this life to become

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<v Speaker 1>a doctor of education. And he just showed me what

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<v Speaker 1>that journey was like. And it made me understand what

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<v Speaker 1>being a white man here was like and what being

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<v Speaker 1>a flawed human is like. And he's just made me

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<v Speaker 1>so much better. And I wouldn't have been ready for

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<v Speaker 1>it if I hadn't gone through all of it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And here I am. I think I'm ready. Oh. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that his husband's name is Wellington, which I love.

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<v Speaker 1>I love a name like Wellington. It sounds like he

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<v Speaker 1>should be on Oh what's that stupid teage Abbey well That?

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<v Speaker 1>But the other the updated child Bridget. Yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 1>the best thing about well he's you know, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>very important educational thinker and all that. But every time

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<v Speaker 1>I go what do you want for dinner? He goes,

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<v Speaker 1>you want beef Wellington and then he shakes it. He goes,

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<v Speaker 1>you like your beef Welling? And well done. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>Ross is on the Drew Barrymore Show. They're a delightful

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<v Speaker 1>combo platter, I must say. And you guys are going back?

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<v Speaker 1>What season are you going back to? Yeah? Season three

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<v Speaker 1>were starting, And you know, Chelsea, you've known me for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. And I when I grew up in

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<v Speaker 1>a little farmtown, I used to watch Regis and kathy

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<v Speaker 1>Leen just like talk and think like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>they get to like talk to each other and then

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<v Speaker 1>interview celebrities. That's what I want to do and and

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<v Speaker 1>it's been the goal forever and I can't believe I

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<v Speaker 1>get to do it every day with Drew Barrymore. It's

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<v Speaker 1>crazy you call him on the show, right, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was so nice to have you on. And she's just

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<v Speaker 1>a dream. Yeah, Drew is a very special, unique individual.

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<v Speaker 1>Drew has gone through her sets of trauma and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all of the stuff, but she always manages to be

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday side up is how I would describe her. She's

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<v Speaker 1>always I mean, she can you know, she's not perfect

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of like being in a happy mood all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, but her genuine spirit is that her like

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<v Speaker 1>neutral vibrates above happy. Yeah, I mean that gear and

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of do that too. But you know, she's

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who again has put in the work. You think

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<v Speaker 1>about where she's been sometimes I'll bring it up. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>what were do you do when you were thirteen? And

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<v Speaker 1>she'll be like, I was in the mental institution. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well I understood. So she's really like been through it

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<v Speaker 1>and come out on this place just full of gratitude

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<v Speaker 1>and not a Pollyanna, not cheesy. She really comes by honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's the real deal. You know. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>her before doing the show. I just sort of popped

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<v Speaker 1>in one day and we like clicked how long did

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<v Speaker 1>how long did it take you guys to click? About

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<v Speaker 1>about three and a half minutes, I think, And then

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<v Speaker 1>she was like, can you come back tomorrow? And I

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<v Speaker 1>was at Jure and then they said can you come

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<v Speaker 1>back next week? Okay? And then I just never left Chelsea.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like when I did your show. I just showed up.

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<v Speaker 1>The same thing on RuPaul, same thing on Jay Leno.

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<v Speaker 1>I just sort of show up and then people are like,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll keep him. I'm like a rescue dog,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. They're like, I like him. I guess I'm

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<v Speaker 1>used to him. That's cute. That's cute. So what goes

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<v Speaker 1>on on Long Island? What part of Long Island are

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<v Speaker 1>you on? So we're in the north Shore. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know anything about All I knew about Long Island is

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<v Speaker 1>that it was far away from California. But we just

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<v Speaker 1>bought a house here because my husband, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>he works out here, and then it's a quick ant

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<v Speaker 1>right into the city. But I love it. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was sort of like cheesy, and then I realized, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is where the bearfot Contessa lives, and then it

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<v Speaker 1>all started all started making sense to me. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can have burrata and KAPRAI say, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I could flit my denim collar up and life is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be great. So I love it here. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, can I tell you a quick story

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<v Speaker 1>that I want? I'm gonna tell you anyway. So I

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<v Speaker 1>had a dream. I've always been scared of cats because

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<v Speaker 1>there's this terrible neighbor cat that was so mean to

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<v Speaker 1>me growing up. So I just scared. And then about

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen years ago, I had a dream about a gray cat.

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<v Speaker 1>I've thought about this gray cat for fifteen years, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about one day a gray cat's going to show up.

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<v Speaker 1>I bought this house on Long Island. The morning after

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<v Speaker 1>we moved in I walked into the backyard and a

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<v Speaker 1>gray cat walks up to me and starts nuzzling me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I named her Joy until I found out that

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<v Speaker 1>she's a boy, So now it's Joy Boy, and joy

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<v Speaker 1>Boy is here every single day, and it means to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on the right track, right, I'm supposed to it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's such a cute story. I'm I'm into all of

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<v Speaker 1>that ship. I'm all into symbolism and signs. Hathan and

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<v Speaker 1>I just started reading this book about this neuroscientist who

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<v Speaker 1>basically discovers mysticism and spirituality and the meaning of the

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<v Speaker 1>universe and and which scientists are like, no, nothing, never,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing ever happens because it's supposed to everything's an accident.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything's an accident unless it's proven by science. And she

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<v Speaker 1>just had her you know, switch flipped. Either way, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it works either way. I don't know. Well, for

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<v Speaker 1>you it does. I'll take what I can get. She

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<v Speaker 1>had her switch flipped, and she's like, oh no, there's

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<v Speaker 1>like a cosmic element to everything, and there's symbolism, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's pre minisciary premoniciary, premonitionary premonitionary dreams. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>just missionary, missionary premonitionary dreams. Like my friend Wendy always

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<v Speaker 1>has premonitionary dreams. She dreamed something and then it happens,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, what's that about? You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Because we all have a like a psychic ability, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just I love that stuff. I think the more

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<v Speaker 1>open minded you are, the more you see. So well put,

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<v Speaker 1>I used to roll my eyes at like crystals and bullshit.

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<v Speaker 1>I always called it that until I went through my

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<v Speaker 1>big breakup and then I someone I'm a friend brought

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<v Speaker 1>me to a crystal store and like literally a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of stone changed my life. It's multivike and I just

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<v Speaker 1>have hung on to it. And I thought to myself,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if the moon can pull the tide, there's

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<v Speaker 1>something going on with energy. So if you can just

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<v Speaker 1>accept it as opposed to try to explain it to yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I like what you said, you see things other

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<v Speaker 1>people can't see. Yeah, if you are to walk into

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<v Speaker 1>a room where like two people have just been arguing,

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<v Speaker 1>you feel it. That's energy. That's all that is. When

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<v Speaker 1>they say you can cut it with a knife, it's true. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's also like when somebody fakes their energy when they

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<v Speaker 1>come in and they try to be happy, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can tell something's gone on and they're not in a

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<v Speaker 1>good spot. That's that's energy, and it's completely transferable and

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<v Speaker 1>well and it's transparent, like you can totally see right

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<v Speaker 1>through it. So yeah, the people who don't take that

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<v Speaker 1>seriously or think my beliefs are my beliefs and it's

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<v Speaker 1>intransigent and I'm not willing to change my opinion. It's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>then you're wrong, definitely. If you're not willing to have

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<v Speaker 1>your mind change, then you're wrong. Yeah. Yeah, And if

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<v Speaker 1>you just can accept the fact that even your instinct

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<v Speaker 1>is energy, then there you go. Yeah, that's right there.

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<v Speaker 1>We've all felt that thing and yeah, yeah, yeah absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>so Ross. On our podcast, we take callers and we

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<v Speaker 1>give advice, and these are real life situations and serious problems.

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<v Speaker 1>So you better have a shot of tequila and get ready. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll deciding. All I have here is water, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to be high. That's my breast milk that I

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<v Speaker 1>said to you. That's yeah, yeah, it's utterly delicious thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almond milk. Actually, I pumped fresh almond milk every morning.

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<v Speaker 1>That's nuts. Well, let's take a quick break and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be right back for some points. Okay, Ross and I

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<v Speaker 1>are going to give our each other a little rubber

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<v Speaker 1>ducking massage out. We'll be right back, and we're back

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<v Speaker 1>so fast. All right. Well, our first I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to mention before you start that there is a neon

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<v Speaker 1>signed behind Ross with his name written in cursive and

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<v Speaker 1>pink neon, and I would expect nothing fucking less. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you it all. I have a remote control and I

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<v Speaker 1>can change that to blue if you want to look

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<v Speaker 1>at that. I got this on at a little boutique

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<v Speaker 1>called Amazon. Oh, I've never heard of Amazon. It's cute,

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<v Speaker 1>and I also had no idea it was pronounced like that,

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<v Speaker 1>so look at me learning. I think it's French. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>our first question comes from sad friend. Dear Chelsea, one

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<v Speaker 1>of my good friends, someone who I considered my best

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<v Speaker 1>friend in college, just unfollowed me on Instagram. She didn't

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<v Speaker 1>tell me about this, and I just figured it out

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<v Speaker 1>three months later. I confronted her about it, and she

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<v Speaker 1>said she doesn't like my boyfriend. She told me that

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't want to see him on my stories and

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<v Speaker 1>my posts. The problem is this is not a new boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been dating for eight years all throughout college. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't realize she disliked my boyfriend this much, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a sentiment I've received from any of my other friends.

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<v Speaker 1>She mentioned once in passing that she didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>hang around on to him, and I thought, okay, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>But I just think it's so weird that she unfollowed me.

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<v Speaker 1>It also makes me think that her hatred of him

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<v Speaker 1>matters more than our friendship. I don't even hang out

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<v Speaker 1>with them together, so I'm not sure what the problem is.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it's a sign that she no longer

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<v Speaker 1>wants to be friends and this was her way of

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<v Speaker 1>saying it. I'm not sure I even want to continue

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<v Speaker 1>the friendship if she couldn't have an open conversation with

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<v Speaker 1>me about this before she resorted to unfollowing me and

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<v Speaker 1>not telling me about it. Sincerely a sad friend. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>that hurts your feelings, That is sad. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>very strong opinion about this, though. Good tell us, okay, goodbye,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. If you're gonna unfollow me after

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<v Speaker 1>knowing me with instead of picking up the phone and saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a real problem with your boyfriend. There's some

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<v Speaker 1>things about him I don't like it, about his characters,

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<v Speaker 1>qualities and as a human, and I think maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>can do better. You're not going to have that grown

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<v Speaker 1>up conversation, but you're gonna unfollow me. Well, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>capable of being my friend anymore, Thank you so much. Next. Yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean funk that person. Un following as somebody is

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<v Speaker 1>as a end is really aggressive. I don't even want

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<v Speaker 1>to unfollow other celebrities that annoy me that I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>friends with, because I know they're going to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can easily mute somebody when you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to see anything that they're doing. That's an option everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, your friend is an asshole. That's not a

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<v Speaker 1>real reason. How could she just like your boyfriend after

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<v Speaker 1>eight years and then not say anything and that's how

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<v Speaker 1>she tells you. So I'm glad that you're open to

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<v Speaker 1>not being friends with her again, because that's probably the

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<v Speaker 1>route I would take. Not probably that is the route

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<v Speaker 1>I would take. Yeah, I would also look at the

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend though, just in case maybe the friend had a point,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, like examine, just let that

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<v Speaker 1>sink into but goodbye to the friend. She's not growing up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And also you can take a survey from your other

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<v Speaker 1>friends and see if there's an issue with your boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>that anybody else has. You know, if you're interested in

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<v Speaker 1>learning about that, or you think that there might be

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<v Speaker 1>something up with your boyfriend or your boyfriend might be

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<v Speaker 1>an asshole, then you should ask your other friends and

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<v Speaker 1>whose opinions you trust. And when you're asking for honesty,

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<v Speaker 1>that gives a person a lot more license and a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger avenue to be honest rather than I'm giving you

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<v Speaker 1>unsolicited opinions. Can you imagine being a grown up like this?

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<v Speaker 1>These people are probably almost thirty because eight years ago

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<v Speaker 1>they were in college, right, so they're almost thirty being

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<v Speaker 1>a grown up, and your biggest move is to unfollowed time.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even like when Instagram comes up in regular

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<v Speaker 1>conversations and somebody says, like when any adult says something

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<v Speaker 1>about somebody being followed or following someone on int I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me, sir, how old are you? Here's the sentence

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<v Speaker 1>I've never said to my like, oh she didn't like

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<v Speaker 1>my photo? Never once? Who would say that? It's like

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram is our touchstone for like being alive. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like that to be the barometer for anything. Yeah, Ever,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say I kind of have a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a different opinion on this. I honestly feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're following me, if you're not following me, like

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<v Speaker 1>who cares? Sort of like do your thing. I have

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<v Speaker 1>friends that I love in real life and I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>follow them online because they're frankly just obnoxious on But

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, I do think that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people believe you that Instagram or TikTok is a

0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:05.640
<v Speaker 1>proxy for friendship. It's like, if you're not sending me memes,

0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:08.159
<v Speaker 1>if you're not following me, you're not my friend. But

0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:10.360
<v Speaker 1>at the same time, I think the mute button can

0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:13.679
<v Speaker 1>be your very best friend and spare everybody's feelings. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, what do you guys think about this?

0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:18.720
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people take it so seriously. I don't know.

0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:21.159
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of sad to be that to care that

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<v Speaker 1>much about it, don't you think I'm I? I I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>am I just old? Do we miss the window of

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<v Speaker 1>like we didn't grow up with Instagram, so pebe we

0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:29.160
<v Speaker 1>don't get the value of it. We're just sort of like,

0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I get the value of it, but I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>the relationship with it when it becomes a little bit

0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:38.840
<v Speaker 1>too interdependent. I mean, yes, I'm on Instagram all the time,

0:21:39.000 --> 0:21:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm checking things, I'm writing to people, I'm answering things,

0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:45.200
<v Speaker 1>and I'm looking at my good commentary. You're always in there. Yeah,

0:21:45.280 --> 0:21:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to give people support and do that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I also don't like it to run me. Like if

0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I if I notice that I've been on or my

0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:53.560
<v Speaker 1>screen time says, oh you've been up five hours. You've

0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:56.200
<v Speaker 1>added this week or day or whatever, I'm like, oh fuck.

0:21:56.680 --> 0:21:59.000
<v Speaker 1>And then I if I'm on vacation, I put my

0:21:59.040 --> 0:22:01.480
<v Speaker 1>phone down. I don't touch it, you know, usually all day.

0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:04.399
<v Speaker 1>So it is a very tricky relationship. And we know

0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:07.320
<v Speaker 1>it's addictive. It's addicting, and you become an addict. And

0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:10.919
<v Speaker 1>I mean I already have enough addictions, so so I

0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:13.359
<v Speaker 1>don't need that to be one of another one. You know,

0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:19.440
<v Speaker 1>I get it. Well. Our next question comes from Noah,

0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:21.679
<v Speaker 1>and he's on the phone with us here. Oh is

0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:24.199
<v Speaker 1>it Noah from the Affair? Of course it is, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that character, Dear Chelsea. I've been single for

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<v Speaker 1>a few years now and haven't gotten past two ish

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<v Speaker 1>dates with anyone since that time. I'm pretty independent, but

0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:36.199
<v Speaker 1>nevertheless a bit of a romantic. I wouldn't say I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in a rush because I have very close friends who

0:22:38.000 --> 0:22:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I spend a good deal of time with, and during

0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:42.719
<v Speaker 1>the height of the pandemic, I was quite content being alone, reading,

0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:46.880
<v Speaker 1>watching TV, taking long walks, without the expectation to interact

0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:50.280
<v Speaker 1>with society. But things are changing now and I'm wanting more.

0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:53.160
<v Speaker 1>I live in Minneapolis, and the population of gay men

0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:55.680
<v Speaker 1>here isn't what it is and say Chicago and y C.

0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:59.240
<v Speaker 1>Or San Francisco. It's a big, small town, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can expect if you start to date someone, you probably

0:23:01.960 --> 0:23:05.720
<v Speaker 1>know their X. Plus everyone here settles down, further limiting

0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:09.840
<v Speaker 1>available men to complicate it even more. I'm a kinky bottom,

0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:12.360
<v Speaker 1>and finding men that complement that part of me, or

0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:15.320
<v Speaker 1>that are open to open relationships is even harder. If

0:23:15.359 --> 0:23:18.800
<v Speaker 1>they exist here, I already know who they are. Despite

0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:20.760
<v Speaker 1>having the best friends I've ever had in my life,

0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:22.560
<v Speaker 1>and the fact that the quality of life here is

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<v Speaker 1>so nice. I live blocks away from four different lakes,

0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:28.720
<v Speaker 1>multiple parks, and pay less than seven dollars for my rent.

0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:31.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to move eventually, but I'm a historian and

0:23:31.960 --> 0:23:34.560
<v Speaker 1>museum professional, and believe it or not, there isn't a

0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:37.680
<v Speaker 1>huge job market for historians these days. I'm willing to

0:23:37.760 --> 0:23:39.960
<v Speaker 1>date long distance, but how do you even meet someone

0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:42.920
<v Speaker 1>to begin a long distance relationship? How do I make

0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:45.520
<v Speaker 1>moves towards what I want? When I seem stuck where

0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I am? Noah, Hidah, Noah. I didn't know it was

0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:55.199
<v Speaker 1>going to actually be here. You are. We were just

0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:57.400
<v Speaker 1>going to talk about you like you weren't here. Oh

0:23:57.400 --> 0:23:59.240
<v Speaker 1>my gosh. Well I'm glad to be here with both

0:23:59.240 --> 0:24:03.080
<v Speaker 1>of you, all of you. Yeah, yeah, well we have

0:24:03.240 --> 0:24:06.120
<v Speaker 1>our our gay man is here today so he can.

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Really I'm gonna let you jump off on this ross

0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:12.440
<v Speaker 1>you take there, You're in lucky little kinky bottom because

0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:15.680
<v Speaker 1>uncle Ross is here the other kinky bottoms on the

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<v Speaker 1>zoom listen. I love that you put that out there,

0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:20.480
<v Speaker 1>and that is the number one thing you can do

0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:22.480
<v Speaker 1>when you're looking for love and you're I should say,

0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:24.720
<v Speaker 1>when you're ready for love is to put it out there. Now,

0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:28.320
<v Speaker 1>do not poo poo on Minneapolis. It is a great

0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:30.840
<v Speaker 1>gay city, you know. I every time I'm in Minnieplus,

0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:32.720
<v Speaker 1>I go to the saloon and order the what the

0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:36.680
<v Speaker 1>Tater Tots because they are Chris. They are perfect. Minneapolis

0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:39.240
<v Speaker 1>is It is very gay there, But I also understand

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 1>when you say it's a little big city. And so

0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 1>if you meet someone, you do probably know their ex.

0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Have you found that when you put it out there?

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Are you on the apps like putting it out there

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<v Speaker 1>what you're into in terms of sexually? Oh? Yeah, I'm

0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:53.679
<v Speaker 1>on the ops and I don't have a hard time

0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:57.800
<v Speaker 1>finding what I need sexually. It's finding that component of

0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:01.160
<v Speaker 1>like the romantic with the sexual because there are folks

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:04.399
<v Speaker 1>that are in relationships here and open, and so I

0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:07.719
<v Speaker 1>can usually find folks that are into what I'm into.

0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:10.680
<v Speaker 1>It just so happens that they're not available to date.

0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if simultaneously if you could be like on

0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:17.720
<v Speaker 1>the grinder the hookup apps to be getting your kinky

0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:23.200
<v Speaker 1>bottom insatiable needs fed, and simultaneously on a different kind

0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:25.720
<v Speaker 1>of app, right, like maybe the Tinder where it's not

0:25:25.760 --> 0:25:29.360
<v Speaker 1>all that whole pictures, Right, I have a variety of them?

0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you do? And are you finding? And then Chelsea,

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:33.360
<v Speaker 1>I'll let you speak on your own show. But are

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:36.320
<v Speaker 1>you finding that on these apps where you're like it's

0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:40.880
<v Speaker 1>about finding love that there's just the well is dry. Yeah.

0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:46.280
<v Speaker 1>So I've got the Hinge, Tender, Scruff and Grinder, so

0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:49.880
<v Speaker 1>like those four and I do definitely that's a nice

0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 1>buffet of dating apps. I like your I like I

0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:56.000
<v Speaker 1>like your choices. I use hingingine Tender, yeah, more for dates.

0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:59.879
<v Speaker 1>But like I said, like, I've had a handful for

0:26:00.040 --> 0:26:03.080
<v Speaker 1>states and we never get past the second and I

0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:06.439
<v Speaker 1>don't really know why that is. Sometimes the kicky stuff

0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:09.120
<v Speaker 1>comes up on those states, sometimes it doesn't. But I've

0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:11.399
<v Speaker 1>only had like a handful in the past two years,

0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 1>and that's just not a lot of prospects Chelsea. It

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:18.320
<v Speaker 1>seems to me though, that no, it's just kind of dating.

0:26:18.440 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, isn't that it that you have some sex

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:22.399
<v Speaker 1>on this side, you have some dates and hope that

0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:24.080
<v Speaker 1>they get to a number three and four and that

0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:26.560
<v Speaker 1>and they won't until like the that's the right guy.

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:29.600
<v Speaker 1>But isn't this kind of just the game? Well, first

0:26:29.600 --> 0:26:31.639
<v Speaker 1>of all, No, you said something that is a pretty

0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:34.119
<v Speaker 1>negative and I you there's no way that you know

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:38.080
<v Speaker 1>everybody in Minneapolis and that you've experienced every gay person there,

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 1>and that everyone that's available as you've already met. That's

0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:44.240
<v Speaker 1>just not true. So that kind of thinking has like

0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:46.680
<v Speaker 1>a negative pattern in your brain when you shut things

0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:49.040
<v Speaker 1>down and you're like, well, what's the point here? So

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 1>you have to kind of wash that out. You haven't

0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 1>met everybody in Minneapolis, and you never will, and you

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:56.240
<v Speaker 1>haven't met every gay bottom or top. Sorry, you're looking

0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:58.360
<v Speaker 1>for a top probably, and you want to have an

0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:01.600
<v Speaker 1>open relationship, right, that's why you're interested in Yeah, that

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:04.560
<v Speaker 1>would be preferred. I'm open to monogamy. It's just one

0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 1>of those things that I know that I am needy,

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:10.119
<v Speaker 1>and so it's unreasonable for me to expect one person

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:13.400
<v Speaker 1>to be able to fulfill all those things. But if

0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 1>they think that they could or would be willing to

0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:18.920
<v Speaker 1>do that, I would be open as well. Wow, look

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:21.120
<v Speaker 1>at that. That's a great answer. I love that you're

0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:24.120
<v Speaker 1>being You're actually being selfless about it because you don't

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:26.879
<v Speaker 1>want to put that onus on another person to constantly

0:27:26.920 --> 0:27:29.560
<v Speaker 1>have to be penetrating you. I get that. That's very

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:32.719
<v Speaker 1>nice of you, sweet, But there are other Okay, so

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:34.720
<v Speaker 1>all the dating apps you've got covered, I would say

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:37.720
<v Speaker 1>continue on that you're doing the Lord's work and that's fun,

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:39.879
<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna meet people. It might not be on

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 1>the timeline that you want, but somebody's gonna come along

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 1>that's also gonna be wanting a relationship and you're going

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:46.560
<v Speaker 1>to find that person. But I think you should also

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:48.520
<v Speaker 1>cast a wider net. I mean, I know you're casting

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:51.200
<v Speaker 1>a pretty wide net. But in terms of not being

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 1>on dating sites, like what kind of stuff do you

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:55.160
<v Speaker 1>like to do? There's like all sorts of gym ship

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 1>you can get into where you're gonna meet people gym activities,

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 1>whether you're into like volleyball or what what do you

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:04.199
<v Speaker 1>like to do? So I'm actually heavily involved in the

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 1>gay Kickball and gay Dodge falls there, so I'm a

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 1>captain of my team. Yeah, it's so hot. I also

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:14.320
<v Speaker 1>like teach the rules to all the movies. So every

0:28:14.320 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 1>time we have the beginning of the season, all of

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 1>these new gays or like new people that are playing

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:22.919
<v Speaker 1>the sports are coming to me and I'm teaching the rules.

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 1>So I get to see and meet a lot of

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:26.600
<v Speaker 1>people that way as well. So it's actually how I

0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 1>met my last boyfriend, which we broke up in twenty nineteen.

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:32.520
<v Speaker 1>So okay, well, it sounds like you're doing everything you

0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:34.359
<v Speaker 1>need to be doing. When was the last time that

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 1>you were in a relationship. Yeah, we broke up in

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:41.080
<v Speaker 1>December twenty nineteen. Okay, and you're ready to get into

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 1>another one. Yeah, I think so. I needed a while

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:46.959
<v Speaker 1>after that one. And that was my first long term relationship,

0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 1>And after that was the first time I realized that

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 1>I could, like, actually have a relationship. Prior to that,

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't really looking for something long term because I

0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:58.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't realize that I was capable of it. And then

0:28:58.440 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 1>it happened, and I was like, you know what, I

0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 1>liked that and ended for other reasons, but I was like,

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I I enjoyed that, and I would like to get

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 1>something like that again. How old do you again? Remind me? Noah?

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh good. So you're right. You're writing where you should

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 1>be doing exactly what you should be doing. Don't rush it, noah. Okay.

0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 1>If you keep on this path, you're going to be

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 1>just fine. Finding somebody somebody's something, and you've got a

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of living to do, honey, Okay, a lot of

0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 1>bottoming for you to do. Got it. Don't bottom out,

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:31.440
<v Speaker 1>don't bottom out. And also, you know, like, if this

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 1>is what you desire, a loving, compassionate relationship, write that down,

0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Write that down on and put it on your refrigerator,

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 1>and every single morning write it down again, write it

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:43.560
<v Speaker 1>down to start your day. I am capable and deserving

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:47.640
<v Speaker 1>of a loving, healthy relationship with another man. And and

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 1>and just that is your mantra. Say it to yourself,

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:53.320
<v Speaker 1>like the manifestation is everything. It fucking works. People talk

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 1>about stuff all the time. By putting that in your

0:29:55.920 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 1>brain activity, not only are you changing your own energy,

0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:01.719
<v Speaker 1>you're changing your thought ss and instead of looking at

0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 1>it as a negative, you have to start going. I

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:06.560
<v Speaker 1>can't wait to meet the people in Minneapolis I haven't

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 1>met yet. I can't wait to meet those guys. You know,

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:12.200
<v Speaker 1>there's a new kickball season starting. Guess what's gonna happen.

0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 1>There's a whole new crop for you. So and anything

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:17.200
<v Speaker 1>you can add to that. I mean, it sounds like

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:19.440
<v Speaker 1>you're pretty busy and with all of it, but I mean,

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 1>these are great qualities to have, These are great activities

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 1>to be doing. You know, captaining a kickball team is

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 1>a great way to meet people. But if there's any

0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 1>other sports out there, that you feel like you're into

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:32.440
<v Speaker 1>do that too. If you have time, You're only just

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 1>going to meet more people and make your life broader, healthier,

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 1>and more well balanced. Yeah, you're right. I'm not worried

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 1>about you know. I'm not worried, but I'm not worried

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:43.560
<v Speaker 1>about you know either. You're twenty seven years old. Be patient,

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 1>don't be in a rush. There's no rush. There's no rush.

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 1>This is gonna come. You'd rather get the right person

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 1>in time than to get the wrong person quickly, right, Yeah, correct, Yeah,

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:54.720
<v Speaker 1>that's the thing that I need to work on, is

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 1>the patience because I think that way too. It's just

0:30:57.440 --> 0:31:00.200
<v Speaker 1>like I I know what I want and they're no

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 1>reason to compromise on that for right now, because I'm

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 1>not in a rush, and I want to say thank

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 1>you for your AIDS poster in the background, so that

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 1>the first words I see behind your head are AIDS.

0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for that. I am a queer historian, so

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 1>I've gotten all over. Yeah, so beautiful. Just to sort

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 1>of put a cap on that, Chelsea go on to

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 1>mentioned this earlier, but also like putting that out there

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:27.680
<v Speaker 1>that you know you're ready for a relationship. That's kind

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 1>of what you're interested in next, like putting that out

0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 1>to your friends as well putting it out there to

0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 1>yourself every day. But I was like, drop that into

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:37.080
<v Speaker 1>conversation because you never know who's like, oh my gosh,

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:38.959
<v Speaker 1>I was just talking to this other person the other

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 1>day about this. I got to connect these two. Sure,

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 1>we'll keep us posted. Let us just good lucky. You're

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna be just fine. I have a date Saturday. O

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:55.720
<v Speaker 1>great you and your eager butth hole, thank you. I

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 1>love Noah. I want only gay questions for Ross. And

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 1>I was like, is this too on the nose? I

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Well, I have another caller. This is Chloe.

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 1>Chloe says dear Chelsea. I'm twenty eight and recently moved

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:22.480
<v Speaker 1>to New York to pursue stand up. I ended a

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 1>bad relationship and two weeks later I lost my grandmother,

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:27.240
<v Speaker 1>who was more like a mom to me, and ship

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 1>really hit the fan in a way that I'm now

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 1>profoundly grateful for. I gained a lot of weight in

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 1>the months immediately after the breakup and losing my grandmother.

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 1>My weight is a part of my story. Though forever

0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 1>I've been thin, I've been fat I've been in between.

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I've made the decision to pursue weight loss surgery not

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:46.680
<v Speaker 1>because it's an easy way out, but because I'm finally

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:49.360
<v Speaker 1>living my dream and just logistically don't have time for

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 1>major weight loss if I also want to pursue stand

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 1>up and work full time. I feel so grateful for

0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 1>my life not going the way I really clung to,

0:32:57.400 --> 0:32:59.800
<v Speaker 1>because I would never have started doing stand up, which

0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:03.000
<v Speaker 1>make me feel more alive and in love than any person, place,

0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:06.320
<v Speaker 1>or thing outside of myself ever has. But the thought

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 1>of any surgery makes me feel anxious. I've done a

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:11.040
<v Speaker 1>ton of research and know that this is a safe

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>and routine surgery, but I'm scared of being that point

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 1>oh one percent of fatalities. You know how hard the

0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 1>grind is trying to make it in stand up when

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:20.960
<v Speaker 1>you're just beginning, and in the little time I have

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 1>to myself. I'd like to start dating again as well,

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 1>but I'm too scared to do so in a larger body.

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 1>The world is just a lot kinder to you in

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 1>a smaller frame. Weight loss surgery seems like a step

0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:33.160
<v Speaker 1>that will let me have my cake and eat it too.

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Figuratively speaking, I'd love to know your thoughts on my

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 1>predicament and maybe what decision you would make if you

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:45.720
<v Speaker 1>were in my shoes. Chloe Hie. Hi, Hi, Hi cutie.

0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 1>How are you. I'm good? How are you guys? Well,

0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 1>you're in luck. We have a very special guest here today,

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Ross Matthews is here. Hi. Hi, Okay, you are so cute.

0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 1>We just listened to your letter. Girl. I feel you

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 1>in so many different ways. I get it. Thank you. Yeah,

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 1>this is great that you're here. I feel like you

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 1>would understand I know a lot about your story and everything. Well,

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 1>I get it in so many ways in terms of

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 1>like what it's like to be a person of size

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:17.799
<v Speaker 1>trying to be funny, you know what I mean, trying

0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:20.360
<v Speaker 1>to get into show business. I understand about putting on

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:22.799
<v Speaker 1>weight when you're grieving the loss of somebody you love

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 1>so much. And I understand the journey of wanting to

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:28.239
<v Speaker 1>try to be the best version of yourself you can

0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 1>be so you can be in the fight. Right. Yeah.

0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:33.799
<v Speaker 1>But I would tell you, Chloe that just by like

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 1>having this conversation with yourself and having with us, you're

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 1>already in the fight. There's no right way or wrong

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:41.279
<v Speaker 1>way to do this. So whatever you need to do

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 1>to get you where you want to be, so you

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 1>are ready to take on whatever's going to come your way,

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:48.399
<v Speaker 1>do it. And when you think about being the one

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:50.879
<v Speaker 1>percent of the small chance of something terrible could happen

0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:52.799
<v Speaker 1>to you if you want ahead with the weight less

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:55.440
<v Speaker 1>our drink, okay, but I mean something terrible could we

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 1>happen tomorrow, But I wouldn't be afraid. Don't go to

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:02.319
<v Speaker 1>the negative place. Do whatever you need to to get

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 1>to where you want to go and be who you

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:06.279
<v Speaker 1>want to be. I didn't do weight loss surgery. It

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 1>wasn't for me because I mostly I was scared. I mean,

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:11.040
<v Speaker 1>I have my back teeth taken out what they called

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 1>your wisdom teeth. That's like my most hardcore surgery. So

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't for me, but I understand it's unique for

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:19.319
<v Speaker 1>every Weight loss is so personal for people. There's no

0:35:19.400 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 1>shame in anything. But I'm so proud of you for

0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 1>showing up for yourself. Thank you. Yeah. I really wanted

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 1>advice from people who aren't family members because I feel

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:34.759
<v Speaker 1>like their opinions are informed by their love for me

0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:38.439
<v Speaker 1>and wanting me to be safe and not take that risk.

0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 1>But I know myself and like it's just something that

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:47.280
<v Speaker 1>I've been struggling with truly since fourth grade. Roberta Morales

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 1>calls me fat, and it's like, okay, that's I know, Roberta. Yeah.

0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 1>So I just want to like take this thing away

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:03.240
<v Speaker 1>has been torturing me for so long, and I really

0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 1>I want to live, you know, and in so many

0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:09.759
<v Speaker 1>ways I am. I moved to New York and I'm

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 1>pursuing stand up and I am like living in a

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:13.879
<v Speaker 1>lot of ways, and I feel brave and I love

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 1>myself in those ways. I feel like if I can

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 1>do this thing that can just also help me feel

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:24.640
<v Speaker 1>like cute and sexy and cool, then like why not

0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:29.360
<v Speaker 1>and proud proud of yourself, right, that's part of it too. Yeah,

0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:31.239
<v Speaker 1>I got it, um. But I also want you to

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:33.920
<v Speaker 1>know just as is, you are just fabulous as it

0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:35.759
<v Speaker 1>is to you know what I mean, And you you've

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:38.399
<v Speaker 1>got to love it yourself right now here today too. Yeah.

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a tricky endeavor to like think of

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:42.799
<v Speaker 1>one thing that's going to fix everything, you know, Like

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:44.719
<v Speaker 1>people do that with the relationships a lot. They think

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:47.359
<v Speaker 1>if they get married, they'll fix the relationship, or if

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:50.600
<v Speaker 1>they have a baby, they'll fix the relationship, and that

0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 1>works the opposite way. You know, whatever problems you have

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 1>are going to be exasperated by thinking that there's a

0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 1>one solution. So what I would say to you is

0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:01.439
<v Speaker 1>to not look at that is the end all be all.

0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:03.120
<v Speaker 1>I think it's fine if you want to get that

0:37:03.160 --> 0:37:05.840
<v Speaker 1>surgery done, but you should also work towards that surgery

0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 1>and get yourself into a really healthy place so that

0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:11.400
<v Speaker 1>you're not just trying to remove whatever you want to

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 1>remove that you're actually actively pursuing the path that you

0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:17.320
<v Speaker 1>want to go down, which is one where you feel

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more healthy and a little bit more

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:22.560
<v Speaker 1>fit right, and you want to be attractive, and that

0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:24.879
<v Speaker 1>to you means weight loss surgery. But on the way

0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:28.439
<v Speaker 1>to that surgery, you should actually start taking really good

0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 1>care of yourself, you know, incorporating exercise, incorporating healthier foods,

0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:37.200
<v Speaker 1>and actually mindfully working towards that goal, because it's kind

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>of like going in to get an operation without doing

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:43.799
<v Speaker 1>it with the right intention is something that can easily backfire.

0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:46.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, you can gain that weight back if you're

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:48.360
<v Speaker 1>not mindful. You can go in and feel great for

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:50.320
<v Speaker 1>two months and then just let it all go to ship.

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I've seen people do that. I've seen people get light

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 1>bo or lap band surgery and then they end up

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:57.840
<v Speaker 1>right back where they started. So it's a very intentional

0:37:57.920 --> 0:38:00.719
<v Speaker 1>thing that you have to be mindful of. These are

0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:02.839
<v Speaker 1>your goals. You want to feel good about yourself. There's

0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:05.880
<v Speaker 1>nothing wrong with that, there's no shame in that. But

0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:08.280
<v Speaker 1>you have to be on your own team in pursuit

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:10.600
<v Speaker 1>of this. You know, you have to get yourself to

0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:13.279
<v Speaker 1>a place that is ready for the surgery, and you

0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:15.760
<v Speaker 1>might even start to lose weight and go, wait a second,

0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:17.279
<v Speaker 1>this isn't as hard as I thought it was going

0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:19.800
<v Speaker 1>to be, and you might not want the surgery. Do

0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:22.799
<v Speaker 1>you have the surgery set yet? Yeah? So I actually

0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:25.879
<v Speaker 1>I had a date and then just in the past

0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:28.440
<v Speaker 1>few days, I pushed it back a little bit just

0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 1>to give myself more time, Like I'm I quit smoking,

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:36.239
<v Speaker 1>just to like prepare get my body as healthy as

0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:39.239
<v Speaker 1>I can be. And then I also pushed it back

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:41.600
<v Speaker 1>because I was like, I do want to get to

0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:46.000
<v Speaker 1>a place of more acceptance and self love before I

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:50.239
<v Speaker 1>make that move and like spend more time in this body.

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 1>But also, like you said, be more conscientious of what

0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:56.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm what I put in my body, get into an

0:38:56.840 --> 0:39:00.480
<v Speaker 1>exercise routine. And it's hard. Like I was telling Catherine,

0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:02.640
<v Speaker 1>I work full time. I'm an assistant, and then I

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:05.000
<v Speaker 1>work a few nights at a comedy club, and then

0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:07.439
<v Speaker 1>when I'm not doing those things, I'm trying to be

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:12.560
<v Speaker 1>at Mike. So like my life feels really chaotic and

0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 1>but still still just trying to be intentional up to

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:18.680
<v Speaker 1>that point. Yeah, do you get any exercise in Like

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:22.360
<v Speaker 1>are you walking around the city. Yeah, I'm always walking

0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:26.800
<v Speaker 1>those subway steps get me. I do like soul cycle

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:30.240
<v Speaker 1>and I can, but like, yeah, I think just leading

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:31.799
<v Speaker 1>up to them. When do you have the surgery set

0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:35.719
<v Speaker 1>for now? It's the second week of January. Oh, you

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:39.080
<v Speaker 1>have plenty of time. You have plenty of time. I

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:40.759
<v Speaker 1>think that you should really try to get you know,

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:43.160
<v Speaker 1>you can download one of those apps like newm that

0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 1>I did that a couple of weeks ago when I

0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 1>had to prepare for a photo shoot. It doesn't matter

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:48.520
<v Speaker 1>how you busy you are. The busier I am, the

0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:50.600
<v Speaker 1>easier it is to beat healthy for me because I

0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:52.399
<v Speaker 1>have less time to work around and like go, oh,

0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:54.600
<v Speaker 1>I want to actually taco from Taco bell. It's like, no,

0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't I'm gonna have this epics bar or this

0:39:57.200 --> 0:39:59.759
<v Speaker 1>protein bar or I'm gonna make a shake. So take

0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:02.640
<v Speaker 1>it mantage of the fact that you're busy and use

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:06.200
<v Speaker 1>this time to get ready for the surgery and really

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 1>start to get develop some healthy habits that will be

0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:11.000
<v Speaker 1>with you post surgery as well. You want to get

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 1>in the habit of walking everywhere. You want to get

0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:16.279
<v Speaker 1>in the habit of eating healthy, not eating ship. Don't

0:40:16.280 --> 0:40:18.560
<v Speaker 1>eat ship that just makes you feel ship. It's not

0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:20.600
<v Speaker 1>good for your brain and it's not good for your body.

0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:24.000
<v Speaker 1>And develop all these healthy habits that will take you

0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:27.239
<v Speaker 1>through the surgery. And not drinking and smoking excellent, do

0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:30.120
<v Speaker 1>not drink or smoke before surgery. I speak from experience.

0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I would also say to just make it a choice

0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 1>by choice, meal by meal thing. Eventually it all adds

0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:38.040
<v Speaker 1>up and it becomes habit. You know, those choices start

0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:41.759
<v Speaker 1>become the new normal, and you'll be so shocked how

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:44.440
<v Speaker 1>in between now and January, just by your actions and

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 1>your choices, you're going to see results. Things will happen

0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:49.280
<v Speaker 1>for you, and you may decide you don't need the surgery.

0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Speaker 1>But if you want it down the line to get it.

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:52.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying the way that you're showing up for

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:56.879
<v Speaker 1>yourself now having these conversations is impressive and keep it up. Yeah.

0:40:57.120 --> 0:41:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, honestly, once Ice at the date and

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:04.000
<v Speaker 1>paid the deposit, I got a second job just to

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:08.600
<v Speaker 1>save for it. Like those decisions actually did empounder me

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:12.960
<v Speaker 1>to start making healthier decisions now, because it's felt like

0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:16.280
<v Speaker 1>more real as you're kind of going on this journey

0:41:16.320 --> 0:41:18.360
<v Speaker 1>and sort of figuring out what's right for you. I

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:20.239
<v Speaker 1>have a couple of podcasts that I think would be

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:23.879
<v Speaker 1>really helpful for you to listen to. First is Half

0:41:23.960 --> 0:41:26.839
<v Speaker 1>Size Me with coach Heather. She's one of those people

0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:29.319
<v Speaker 1>who like fits in one pant leg of her old

0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:31.680
<v Speaker 1>pants and lost a lot of weight and kept it

0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 1>off for a decade or more. She takes the approach

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:37.920
<v Speaker 1>of slow and steady is the only thing that wins

0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:42.640
<v Speaker 1>the race. It's non judgmental, it's really really helpful, and

0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 1>I just think it's a really great podcast to be

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:48.840
<v Speaker 1>listening to. The second one is called Maintenance Phase, and

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:53.120
<v Speaker 1>the two hosts of this are incredible journalists, but they

0:41:53.160 --> 0:41:58.480
<v Speaker 1>go about debunking a lot of wellness and diet culture stuff.

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 1>They talk a lot about and I fat bias. They

0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 1>talk a lot about being healthy no matter your size,

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 1>and why an individual's health markers are much more important

0:42:09.560 --> 0:42:12.839
<v Speaker 1>than their weight in a lot of cases. So yeah,

0:42:12.960 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 1>check out maintenance phase. Take a listen to both of those.

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:18.840
<v Speaker 1>There's sort of two different perspectives on the same topic,

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:20.719
<v Speaker 1>and that's why I think they'd be really helpful for

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:23.759
<v Speaker 1>you to listen to sort of at the same time. Yeah,

0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:28.440
<v Speaker 1>thank you. I'm always listening to a podcast. Awesome, perfect.

0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy to meet you, Chloe, and good luck. Okay,

0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:33.439
<v Speaker 1>and if I'm ever seeing your headlining somewhere, I'm gonna

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:37.719
<v Speaker 1>come see you. Yeah, okay, I'm like five months in

0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 1>great good for you. That's so fucking brave than Yeah, okay,

0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:47.879
<v Speaker 1>because it's been crazy and I love all. We love

0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:50.920
<v Speaker 1>you too, Chloe. Thank you, Chloe. All right, we'll talk

0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:55.120
<v Speaker 1>to you. So, Chloe, I still get that. I still

0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:57.360
<v Speaker 1>get just being like confused with the weight loss and

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<v Speaker 1>health and just thinking like where do you even start.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a big pile of laundry, Like which fucking

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:03.440
<v Speaker 1>piece do I fold? I don't even know where to start.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it feels like. It's just so confusing and daunting.

0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I used to be so obsessed, obsessed with my weight, obsessed,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm still not better. I mean, I'm less obsessed,

0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:16.520
<v Speaker 1>but I still have it, you know what I mean.

0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm getting ready for I have a shoot on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>and for me to do a shoot, I can't even socialize,

0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Like but it's so I mean, I've have so much

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<v Speaker 1>education and what is good for you that I know

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what to do. I know to space my meals

0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:35.480
<v Speaker 1>apart three and a half hours. I know to eat proteins,

0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:37.880
<v Speaker 1>a little bit fat and a little bit of healthy carbs,

0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:39.480
<v Speaker 1>and I know not to drink, and I know not

0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:41.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, I get that I can look at any

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<v Speaker 1>picture from any decade and know exactly what I weigh

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<v Speaker 1>that day. Oh my god, do you wear yourself every

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<v Speaker 1>day to every day? Every day? When I when I

0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 1>put on I don't. That's when that's when I'm I

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:53.080
<v Speaker 1>haven't looked, you know what I mean? When I because

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<v Speaker 1>you know me, I call myself a weight detective. If

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<v Speaker 1>I lose it, I can always find it again. This

0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:59.000
<v Speaker 1>time has been different, like because it's been a it's

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<v Speaker 1>about accountability, you know what I mean. You know, at

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<v Speaker 1>a certain age, you kind of figure out what behavior

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:05.040
<v Speaker 1>is going to suck you up in the long run,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, right, Well, you've been looking good for

0:44:07.800 --> 0:44:10.960
<v Speaker 1>a while, though you haven't put on weight in a while, right, No,

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I haven't. It took you long enough to mention it.

0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. And I do look great, And no,

0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:16.680
<v Speaker 1>I really am feeling I can't wait to do a

0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:18.839
<v Speaker 1>reboot of Chelsea later so we can all just hang

0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:21.000
<v Speaker 1>out and make fun of each other on the round table.

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Are we going to do that? Are we in? We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it. We're talking, We're in official discussions. Yes,

0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:29.279
<v Speaker 1>and we'll see what if the right thing, I don't know.

0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:31.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where to put this or where at

0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:33.560
<v Speaker 1>the right places for that, you know. If it's a streamer,

0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:36.600
<v Speaker 1>feels like network television is over in terms of late

0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:39.040
<v Speaker 1>night shows, so I don't really want to put myself

0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 1>in that category. I want to, I don't know. I

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:43.279
<v Speaker 1>have to figure out if there's a if there's a

0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:46.319
<v Speaker 1>right fit. But yeah, we're definitely talking about it, all right,

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 1>let's discuss it happy hour. We'll solve it, Okay, we'll

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:51.160
<v Speaker 1>solve the world's crisis in a happy hour and then

0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:55.200
<v Speaker 1>and then I can give you all the dish excellent. Well,

0:44:55.400 --> 0:44:57.799
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take another quick break and then we'll be

0:44:57.920 --> 0:45:07.319
<v Speaker 1>right back with Chelsea and Ross and we're back. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what. Oh my god. Speaking of terrible voices, like

0:45:09.840 --> 0:45:12.520
<v Speaker 1>when I tried to sing, I was doing a Peloton

0:45:12.600 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 1>ABS class yesterday morning and the girl who ran it,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what her name was, but she started

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<v Speaker 1>singing and I looked at my phone. It was on

0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:23.319
<v Speaker 1>my phone. I'm on a mat in my I'm in

0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:25.560
<v Speaker 1>the rental house in Beverly Hills, and I looked at

0:45:25.560 --> 0:45:28.200
<v Speaker 1>the phone, going, are you fucking kidding me? You kidding?

0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:30.799
<v Speaker 1>She just tried to sing along to the song, but

0:45:30.880 --> 0:45:33.239
<v Speaker 1>her voice was worse than mine. And I looked at

0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:35.359
<v Speaker 1>her like she was standing next to me, and I

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:38.799
<v Speaker 1>was like, excuse me, you can't sing ever again on

0:45:38.840 --> 0:45:41.799
<v Speaker 1>this app. And then she did it again. And this

0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:43.200
<v Speaker 1>morning I got up and I was like, all right,

0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:45.680
<v Speaker 1>which apps class am I gonna do? And I was like,

0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:48.359
<v Speaker 1>all right, she's out, Like she it's over for her.

0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:50.400
<v Speaker 1>She tried to say, that's the difference between you and me.

0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:53.680
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, what time are you saying this again tomorrow?

0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:59.239
<v Speaker 1>Trying to be here well, Ross, this is the part

0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:00.960
<v Speaker 1>of our show where we ask if you have any

0:46:01.000 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 1>advice you'd like from Chelsea. You know, I actually do.

0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:09.080
<v Speaker 1>One thing I revere about child. I just respect so

0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:14.120
<v Speaker 1>much about you is that you have no problem like

0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:17.080
<v Speaker 1>with letting it get uncomfortable with people, You know what

0:46:17.160 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Like, if somebody's acting a fool, you'll tell them,

0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:22.560
<v Speaker 1>If somebody is ad dick, you'll alert them. If somebody's

0:46:22.560 --> 0:46:24.200
<v Speaker 1>in your space to tell them. I feel like I

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:26.799
<v Speaker 1>constantly have to be human lubricants. I'm always just kind

0:46:26.800 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 1>of like, Okay, it's gonna be fine, everything's gonna be fine.

0:46:29.200 --> 0:46:31.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to get me okay, even if it's not real, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>how do we become more comfortable with the with the uncomfortable? Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that there is a lot of dignity in

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<v Speaker 1>being truthful and direct. It's undignified to pretend that's something's

0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:48.320
<v Speaker 1>okay when it's not. I feel that way. I feel

0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:51.520
<v Speaker 1>like if somebody's acting in a weird way, like it's

0:46:51.520 --> 0:46:54.320
<v Speaker 1>ok there's nice ways to say it and nicer ways

0:46:54.360 --> 0:46:56.399
<v Speaker 1>to say it. As I've learned over the years, it's

0:46:56.440 --> 0:46:59.759
<v Speaker 1>not like hey, fucking moron, It's like, hey, is everything okay?

0:46:59.760 --> 0:47:02.440
<v Speaker 1>What is going on? Or this makes me uncomfortable? Or

0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:04.760
<v Speaker 1>you seem like you're a little bit out of whack,

0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:07.800
<v Speaker 1>or this dynamic isn't working like it's good to set boundaries.

0:47:07.800 --> 0:47:11.520
<v Speaker 1>People respect that, and I've become much more gentle about

0:47:11.600 --> 0:47:14.640
<v Speaker 1>my confrontations. You know what I mean, because I have

0:47:14.719 --> 0:47:16.839
<v Speaker 1>heard you say what what's wrong with you? I've heard

0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:19.920
<v Speaker 1>you say that course yeah, yeah, so even you have

0:47:20.040 --> 0:47:23.160
<v Speaker 1>like sort of reformed how you do it. Yeah, because

0:47:23.200 --> 0:47:25.040
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't feel good to the person. You know, if

0:47:25.040 --> 0:47:28.240
<v Speaker 1>somebody's acting weird, or somebody's encroaching on your physical space

0:47:28.360 --> 0:47:31.600
<v Speaker 1>or your personal you know, however they're infringing on you,

0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:33.840
<v Speaker 1>or that you don't like the way that you feel.

0:47:34.160 --> 0:47:36.680
<v Speaker 1>There's no shame in saying, hey, I just need you

0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:38.839
<v Speaker 1>to back up a little bit, or I actually need

0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:41.759
<v Speaker 1>a minute by myself, or I'm feeling overwhelmed. You know,

0:47:41.800 --> 0:47:44.200
<v Speaker 1>it depends. If somebody's a really sensitive person, it's always

0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:46.399
<v Speaker 1>better to put it on yourself and act like it's

0:47:46.400 --> 0:47:50.520
<v Speaker 1>your problem, not theirs. But if somebody is consistently, you know,

0:47:50.920 --> 0:47:54.239
<v Speaker 1>causing a problem, or you don't like the way they're behaving. Like.

0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:58.240
<v Speaker 1>There is a lot of dignity in being upfront and saying, hey,

0:47:58.239 --> 0:48:01.279
<v Speaker 1>this is how this makes me feel. Not you are

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:04.279
<v Speaker 1>an asshole, you behave badly. It's like this is not

0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:07.000
<v Speaker 1>comfortable for me at this point. You know, I had

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:09.800
<v Speaker 1>to learn that a lot, especially if somebody is throwing

0:48:09.880 --> 0:48:13.480
<v Speaker 1>daggers at you and you're in a fight. It is

0:48:13.680 --> 0:48:17.920
<v Speaker 1>very hard to regain composure because you're in defense mode

0:48:18.280 --> 0:48:23.239
<v Speaker 1>and nothing in that area ever gets resolved. If two

0:48:23.239 --> 0:48:25.799
<v Speaker 1>people are going at it, there's no there's not gonna

0:48:25.800 --> 0:48:28.399
<v Speaker 1>be any come to Jesus moment. But I would say

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<v Speaker 1>putting up guardrails not to be overly guarded, but putting

0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:35.640
<v Speaker 1>up guardrails when people have overstepped is a very dignified

0:48:35.680 --> 0:48:37.680
<v Speaker 1>thing to do, and the person that you do it

0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:41.520
<v Speaker 1>with will most likely respect you more if it's handled correctly.

0:48:42.040 --> 0:48:44.440
<v Speaker 1>That actually is a is a big thing for me

0:48:44.560 --> 0:48:47.120
<v Speaker 1>right now when you're saying that, it's like respectful and

0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:50.000
<v Speaker 1>dignified to be more honest with another person to sort

0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:52.160
<v Speaker 1>of say, hey, this is the reality, this makes me uncomfortable,

0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:54.080
<v Speaker 1>or this needs to stop for this as opposed to

0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:56.080
<v Speaker 1>just like ha ha ha and you move on. It's

0:48:56.360 --> 0:49:00.640
<v Speaker 1>that's almost like undignified and disrespectful to them. I just

0:49:00.680 --> 0:49:03.400
<v Speaker 1>find myself as I'm getting older and you know, becoming

0:49:03.480 --> 0:49:05.520
<v Speaker 1>an adult and things, I find myself needing to have

0:49:05.560 --> 0:49:08.279
<v Speaker 1>those kind of confrontational moments more often. And I'm tired

0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:11.400
<v Speaker 1>of like whimping out and and just not doing it

0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:13.279
<v Speaker 1>like a grown up, you know. So I'm really trying

0:49:13.320 --> 0:49:16.759
<v Speaker 1>to force myself to have those Wellington quote Bernie Brown

0:49:16.800 --> 0:49:20.000
<v Speaker 1>calls them courageous conversations, you know, that's what they call them.

0:49:20.000 --> 0:49:22.759
<v Speaker 1>So trying to force myself to do that. Yeah, because

0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:26.640
<v Speaker 1>there's it is undignified to be fake. That's it. That's

0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:29.520
<v Speaker 1>the word fake. Right. If we're not addressing it, we're

0:49:29.520 --> 0:49:34.520
<v Speaker 1>faking it. That's so lame. Yeah, faking is lame. Speaking easily.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Thank you, little Chelsea. I know you're unqualified

0:49:38.360 --> 0:49:41.960
<v Speaker 1>to give advice at all, but you're very good at it. Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you, Ross, I love you. I can't wait

0:49:43.960 --> 0:49:45.520
<v Speaker 1>to see you. You know what, we should go to

0:49:45.560 --> 0:49:47.840
<v Speaker 1>that boat place that I love. I don't know what

0:49:47.880 --> 0:49:50.359
<v Speaker 1>I'd go there. Okay, we're gonna figure it out Wednesday night,

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<v Speaker 1>Happy hour, right, Okay, let's keep that boat place afloat. Okay,

0:49:54.000 --> 0:49:58.360
<v Speaker 1>we will love you. If you'd like to ask Chelsea

0:49:58.440 --> 0:50:02.080
<v Speaker 1>for advice, please write into Dear Chelsea podcast at gmail

0:50:02.160 --> 0:50:05.200
<v Speaker 1>dot com. We have a special call for submissions this week.

0:50:05.239 --> 0:50:08.480
<v Speaker 1>If you've done any sort of genetic testing and maybe

0:50:08.840 --> 0:50:12.520
<v Speaker 1>made a discovery about a family member, or found out

0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:15.600
<v Speaker 1>that your uncle maybe has a secret family somewhere, or

0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:18.200
<v Speaker 1>you found some health markers related to your DNA that

0:50:18.280 --> 0:50:20.800
<v Speaker 1>have led you to take certain steps and investigate further,

0:50:21.480 --> 0:50:24.040
<v Speaker 1>and especially if you'd like advice about what you found

0:50:24.040 --> 0:50:27.800
<v Speaker 1>out in your DNA analysis, please write into Dear Chelsea

0:50:27.880 --> 0:50:31.960
<v Speaker 1>podcast at gmail dot com. Dear Chelsea is a production

0:50:31.960 --> 0:50:36.040
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0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:39.440
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<v Speaker 1>And don't forget to check out Hello Ross, a brand

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