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Speaker 1: Senator Franken resign his seat and Senate? Well, obviously I

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Speaker 1: to have an ethics investigation. What could possibly come out

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Speaker 1: of that investigation? It seems as though most of the

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Speaker 1: facts here are pretty clear. It's important to have the

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Speaker 1: ethics investigation to not only establish the facts, but to

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Speaker 1: for somebody to have to resign their see? I don't know, Casey.

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Speaker 1: People will make their own judgments. I don't know they'll

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Speaker 1: make their own judgments. I think there should be a process.

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Speaker 1: I think we need to find facts. Do those responses

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Speaker 1: seem like maybe they'd be applicable to another major political

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Speaker 1: figure right now? For some people? Does any of that

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Speaker 1: ring a bell for what? What an argument that may

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Speaker 1: have been made recently with regard to another possible Senate

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Speaker 1: seat in the balance? Yeah, there's that, isn't there? So

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Speaker 1: the people of Alabama can decide is, according to the

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Speaker 1: left wing media, cowardice and tantamount to uh turning a

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Speaker 1: blind eye to underage sexual abuse. But admitted abuser admitted jerk.

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Speaker 1: By the way, as well, Al Franken, the people of

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Speaker 1: Minnesota get to decide with him. That's fine. Oh okay,

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Speaker 1: I I see and and that is that is the

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Speaker 1: double standard at work, my friends, the double set. Now

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Speaker 1: I know this is where oh if I had some

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Speaker 1: liberals calling it, oh what what Roy Moore was accused

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Speaker 1: of is so much more serious than what than what

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Speaker 1: al Franken has used. Yes, true, No, that is true.

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Speaker 1: But Roy Moore says that it's all not that it's

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Speaker 1: all a lie. Al Franken isn't saying it's a lie.

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Speaker 1: And there's video and there's a photographic evidence. So you know,

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Speaker 1: how do you how do you engage that? How does

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Speaker 1: that factor into the discussion. It's amazing though. Bernie Sanders

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Speaker 1: was also asked about al Franken. Here's what he said.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen Do you agree with Senator Jillibrand. Look, I don't

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Speaker 1: think that I'm not gonna answer. Our goal is our

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Speaker 1: goal is to go forward. Do you think that al

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Speaker 1: frank And should resign? Our goal is to go forward.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a decision for Al Franken and the

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Speaker 1: people of the state of Minnesota. My understanding is that

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Speaker 1: Al is a very popular centermer It's very popular. That

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Speaker 1: has nothing to do with anything, right. This is about

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Speaker 1: morality and ethics and conduct in office. How popular or

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Speaker 1: unpopular candidates means nothing. But it's about power, politics and

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Speaker 1: Democrats ultimately, And much of what you're seeing is just

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Speaker 1: posturing from them on this because they also the American

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Speaker 1: left is desperate to reassert itself somehow on the moral

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Speaker 1: high ground of some issue somewhere. Right. They haven't been

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Speaker 1: able to convince the American people that Trump is a

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Speaker 1: Russian agent, so now that they're looking for something else,

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Speaker 1: something else that they can use as a weapon against

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Speaker 1: the administration. And what we see for I mean that

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Speaker 1: was with with Sanders, that wasn't that great. And we

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Speaker 1: we go from let the people decide in the district

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Speaker 1: or in the state too, to Sanders saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's a decision for Al Franken. So really, let the

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Speaker 1: Franken decide is what it is. What Bernie Sanders, you know, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll leave it to him. Let's let's let the let

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Speaker 1: Al Franken decide his faith. That's that's one way to

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Speaker 1: go to be sure. Um, I see this continuing to

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Speaker 1: play out, and oh wait, just in case, I played

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Speaker 1: one pseudo centrist who's whole on air persona is about

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Speaker 1: speaking down to Republicans and criticizing them and doing in

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Speaker 1: a way that pleases democratic audiences. So I should throw

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Speaker 1: David Brooks of the New York Times into the mix

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Speaker 1: as well. Clip nine, please. I think it's important to

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Speaker 1: make some distinctions among the different levels of sin here.

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Speaker 1: It seems to when Harvey Weinstein did uh and what

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Speaker 1: Roy Moore did as the highest level of violeness and

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Speaker 1: should be career enders. Then there are the lecals of

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Speaker 1: of sin which should probably should be career and are

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Speaker 1: setting a predatory environment. Um, you know, whether it's Bill

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Speaker 1: Clinton or the guy some of the journalists who have

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Speaker 1: been involved. And then I would put Al Franklin so

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Speaker 1: far in a different category. Frankly, what he did was

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Speaker 1: callous and narcisstic and insensitive and just pathetic. But if

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Speaker 1: do real penance, my first instinct decis should not be

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Speaker 1: a career renders, all the all the quizzling, all the gymnastics,

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Speaker 1: all the all the handwringing from David Rooks. There, you'll

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Speaker 1: notice that he separated out somehow Weinstein from Clinton. Clinton

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Speaker 1: is Clinton is credibly accused of rape on the record

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Speaker 1: by a named accuser, as well as others for sexual sault,

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Speaker 1: but for forcible rape. Weinstein's accused a forcible rape. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Weinstein may be guilty of more forcible rapes or maybe

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Speaker 1: you have accused of more force in terms of the number,

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Speaker 1: but they're accused of the same crime. So why is

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Speaker 1: Clinton You'll notice how he did that right, a little

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Speaker 1: sleight of hand. Why is Clinton in a different category? U? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Because was it was David Brooks somebody who was writing

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Speaker 1: during the Oh yeah, yeah, he's been around the game

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Speaker 1: a long time. He's been around the game a long time.

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Speaker 1: How rough do you think he was on Clinton during

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Speaker 1: all that? I don't know. I have to go back

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Speaker 1: and check, but I'm willing to bet that he could

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Speaker 1: have been a little tougher. But he puts Clinton in

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Speaker 1: a separate category. He also assumes that he states that

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Speaker 1: Roy Moore is guilty as Roy Moore has admitted that

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Speaker 1: he's guilty, which he clearly has not. Al Franken has

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Speaker 1: admitted he is guilty. These are important, these are facts, right.

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Speaker 1: Roy Moore has said I did not do it. Whether

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Speaker 1: not do it. Al Franken has said he did do it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I did it. That's what Al Franken saying. That should

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Speaker 1: matter for something in these discussions as well. But the

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Speaker 1: most annoying thing about what David Brooks does there is

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Speaker 1: that he he separates Clinton out from the rest of

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Speaker 1: it as though what Clinton did. And then that's the

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Speaker 1: problem that the media right now and there are in

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Speaker 1: such prominent positions and unfortunately run a lot of they

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Speaker 1: lot of power still that the boomer generation Clintonistas that

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Speaker 1: are in charge in all these places, they say they

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Speaker 1: Clinton years, but they really don't. Many of them made

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Speaker 1: their careers defending Clinton. Many careers were made by being

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Speaker 1: Clinton cronies. And whether we're talking about you know, people

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Speaker 1: that you know ABC in the ABC newsroom or people

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Speaker 1: at the New York Times or wherever They don't want

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Speaker 1: their legacy to be known as Yeah, I I covered for,

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Speaker 1: or rather rode the coattails of a sexual predator named

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Speaker 1: Bill Clinton. But that's reality. I'll be right back. I

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Speaker 1: think it was less about the players and the father,

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Speaker 1: the father of one of the Americans releasing to have

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Speaker 1: a problem with it. Um. Frankly, it didn't seem like

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Speaker 1: the father wanted the president to intervene, which I think

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Speaker 1: would would have been a sad thing if he hadn't.

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Speaker 1: Most likely, does he want does he believe that he

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Speaker 1: really should have left the players in jail? I think

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Speaker 1: if that's the case, he wouldn't have taken the action

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Speaker 1: that he did and certainly acted in order to help

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Speaker 1: get those individuals released and brought back to the country.

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Speaker 1: Matthew following him that, um, if that's not how he feels,

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Speaker 1: and why did he say? But the president was, look

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Speaker 1: the president was. It was a rhetorical response to a

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Speaker 1: criticism by the father. Sarah Coulby Sanders, They're having to

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Speaker 1: field questions about a non controversy. Controversy of the media

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Speaker 1: is latched onto and it involves the three basketball players

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Speaker 1: who Trump helped get out of China that they shoplifted

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Speaker 1: some stuff and here's what. And I just know that

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Speaker 1: as a as a rule rule of thumb, everybody don't

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Speaker 1: break the law period as you know. But you really

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Speaker 1: don't want to break a law of foreign country. I

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Speaker 1: can tell you. I have friends, a lot of friends

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Speaker 1: who worked in the State Department over the years, and

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Speaker 1: they will tell you that you do not want to

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Speaker 1: have to call like the consulate or the MSCY or

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Speaker 1: whatever and say, hey, I'm in prison and I did

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Speaker 1: something stupid and and wait for Uncle Sam to come

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Speaker 1: to your rescue. It is not You will be uh

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Speaker 1: waiting for a while and might be very disappointed. So

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Speaker 1: keep that in mind. But in this case, Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: President did help them out. And then one of the

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Speaker 1: one of the players dads came out and said, you know,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, who or something? Yeah, who the uh mr

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Speaker 1: was LaVar Ball, the father of lee Angelo Ball. And

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Speaker 1: so then Donald Trump writes or wrote on Twitter now

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Speaker 1: say from years in jail, LaVar Ball, the father of

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Speaker 1: son and that shoplifting is no big deal. I should

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Speaker 1: have left them in jail exclamation point of course. Uh,

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Speaker 1: this is a non story. I mean the president looked

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Speaker 1: that President did a solid for three young men, and

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Speaker 1: and I think that it's you know there they were grateful,

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Speaker 1: they said thank you initially, and then there was this

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Speaker 1: little afterwards, this this dust up. But you know, the president,

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Speaker 1: see that. What I found frustrating though, were the claims

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Speaker 1: that came out after this, And I think morning Joe

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Speaker 1: actually Joe Scarborough fresh off the beach and Nantucket hair

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Speaker 1: poofed up as high to the skuys it can go

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Speaker 1: electric guitar at the ready. Yeah, you know, I'm just

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Speaker 1: like talking politics here with Mika. Uh he. I believe

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Speaker 1: he was one of the ones who said that Trump's

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Speaker 1: criticism of of LaVar Ball is yet another incident, incident

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Speaker 1: of Trump only criticizing African Americans or something. And there's

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Speaker 1: this stuff we're going around on Twitter, and I'm like, look,

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of things that people who don't

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Speaker 1: like Trump can say about Trump. And I say, all right,

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Speaker 1: well that's your opinion, but let's not pretend for one

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Speaker 1: second that Trump doesn't have choice words and often harsh

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Speaker 1: ones for anybody who happens to annoy him, stand in

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Speaker 1: his way, or just get on the wrong side of him,

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Speaker 1: of literally any ethnic background, any you know, any gender,

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Speaker 1: any religion. Trump is an equal opportunity SmackDown guy. He'll

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Speaker 1: SmackDown anybody anywhere, does not care. So I was very

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Speaker 1: annoyed to see that that was one of the takeaways

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Speaker 1: in this But anyway, Emily's Nati is joining us in

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Speaker 1: a few minutes with even more sexual harassment allegations that

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Speaker 1: are out there, now, new ones. The purge of sexual

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Speaker 1: harassers continues, the avalanche of stories. There's just more and

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Speaker 1: more each day. It is incredible how this continues and

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Speaker 1: going away anytime soon. We've got Emily's a Nati the

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Speaker 1: line with us to talk about the latest. She is

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Speaker 1: a writer for the Daily Wire. Check out her latest

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Speaker 1: at daily wire dot com. Ms. Not Ey, good to

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Speaker 1: have you back, Thanks for having me. All right, give

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Speaker 1: us some I've been talking about this on the show already,

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Speaker 1: but I just by way of review as well as

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Speaker 1: I'm sure I've missed some who's on the list today.

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Speaker 1: So today our most Our biggest name today is Charlie

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Speaker 1: Rose from PPS. Of all people, I actually didn't see

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Speaker 1: that one. What happened? So eight women have told the

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Speaker 1: Washington Post that Charlie Rose, while they were working for

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Speaker 1: his show on PBS, he walked around naked. He sent

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Speaker 1: them lud photographs, He made very descriptive phone calls to them,

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Speaker 1: grouped them all just ran the gamut of alleged sexual harassment.

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Speaker 1: And this is a guy who's been on PBS probably

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Speaker 1: four to five decades, who's not exactly like the kind

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Speaker 1: of guy you think would be out there hitting on

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Speaker 1: of year old women. But yeah, eight women have come

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Speaker 1: forward and said Charlie Rose. I will tell you, Emily,

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Speaker 1: there have been a few things that I've been saying

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Speaker 1: for a while on this show. One is that for

643
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Speaker 1: and I was, and anyone who listens knows when the

644
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Speaker 1: Weinstein stuff came out, I said, Oh, the news businesses

645
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 1: is almost as bad as Hollywood. So get ready for that,

646
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Speaker 1: because it really is. Because there's so many there are

647
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Speaker 1: gate keepers with tremendous power. They tend to be older

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Speaker 1: men and they uh, there's a lot of young, very

649
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Speaker 1: attractive women in the business. And whoever gets the job

650
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Speaker 1: is really just at the whim of some of these old,

651
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Speaker 1: lecherous dudes. And we know how that's been playing now.

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Speaker 1: I know there were some big stories that broke on

653
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Speaker 1: that even before Weinstein, But I said, now that the

654
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Speaker 1: floodgates have opened, you're going to see a lot more, uh.

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Speaker 1: And so that's one thing. And the other thing is

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Speaker 1: I've I've been here. I heard for a long time

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Speaker 1: that Charlie Rose was super sketchy. So this is one

658
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Speaker 1: of those that I couldn't come out and say anything

659
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Speaker 1: because I didn't have anything other than rumor. But this

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Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me at all. Actually, yeah, I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is not actually very surprising if someone is familiar with

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Speaker 1: how PBS works and how long some of these hosts

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Speaker 1: have been on PBS. They've been there for an extended

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Speaker 1: amount of time, and so they definitely wield a lot

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Speaker 1: of power, particularly among people who want to get up

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Speaker 1: into the higher ranks of news business. So it's not

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Speaker 1: super surprising that these guys are not the greatest individuals

668
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Speaker 1: in the world. Yeah. And and Charlie Rose, by the way,

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Speaker 1: his show was was going to be canceled years ago,

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Speaker 1: and then a group of people banded together to like

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Speaker 1: keep it on. I think they even raised money. So

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Speaker 1: these ratings have never been very good, But there's a

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Speaker 1: he's had some some super supporters that have kept him

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Speaker 1: on the air. But I mean, yeah, I was looking

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Speaker 1: at some of these guys like this, Charlie Ross really

676
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Speaker 1: think he's the only guy who can sit there and

677
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Speaker 1: ask pretty obvious questions with a dark backdrop. I mean, no,

678
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Speaker 1: there are other people who can do this like bad voice.

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Speaker 1: No he's not. But he's also not the only reporter

680
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Speaker 1: who got snagged today. Oh who else? The New York

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Speaker 1: Times of White House reporter Glenn Thrush, actually a very

682
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Speaker 1: respected reporter, also accused today a sexual misconduct with several people.

683
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Speaker 1: He worked with, several people who were under him and

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Speaker 1: in the workplace in various locations to other journalists. So

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Speaker 1: he's are our second man of the day, okay, now,

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Speaker 1: based on based on the the purge of the perverts,

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Speaker 1: uh rulings that I've been making, rules that I've been

688
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Speaker 1: making up as we go here. From what I see,

689
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Speaker 1: if you have more than if you have more than

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Speaker 1: three accusers, everyone just assumes you're pretty much guilty. Right, So,

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Speaker 1: Charlie Rose, he I mean eight, No, I mean no way.

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Speaker 1: That's he's not gonna shake that. But how many do

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Speaker 1: we have with Thrush? With Glen Thrush of the New

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Speaker 1: York Times, you, by the way, was the guy for

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Speaker 1: those of you watching him and Haberman are the New

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Speaker 1: York Times reporters that are I think most associated with

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Speaker 1: like speaking truth to power with the Trump administration. And

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Speaker 1: SNL has actually shown Thrush. He always wears like a

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Speaker 1: fedora or something, So go ahead. Yeah, he's he's kind

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Speaker 1: of your quintessential reporter. He kind of tries to play

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Speaker 1: up that look of a nineteen forties reporter. He's had

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Speaker 1: four allegations of sexual harassment, all published on dot com

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Speaker 1: over so over our three over a three allegation threshold,

704
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Speaker 1: over our three allegation threshold. This is the superious business now.

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Speaker 1: And he's been suspended. I see this now, my computers,

706
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Speaker 1: I'm talking to you. He's been suspended. Yes, he's been suspended.

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Speaker 1: He has not yet been suspended from MSNBC, where he's

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Speaker 1: a political contributor, but I think that's probably going to

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Speaker 1: come here in the next couple of hours. He's been

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Speaker 1: suspended for the New York Time pending an investigation. He's

711
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Speaker 1: also been suspended from Politico and other places where he

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Speaker 1: publishes as well, so he's looking at an unpaid vacation

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Speaker 1: for next year. I gotta say, I think that it's

714
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Speaker 1: been a little surprising that you've had so many of

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Speaker 1: these stories come out about about journalists recently. And I

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Speaker 1: know there have been some people who you know, initially denied, denied, denied,

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Speaker 1: but we haven't had I can't remember now in recent

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Speaker 1: uh and the recent and there's so many of them

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Speaker 1: that it is it is impossible or very hard at

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Speaker 1: least to keep them all straight in your head. But Emily,

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Speaker 1: you know, as a guy, if if somebody came out

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Speaker 1: and was just completely uh making stuff up or it was,

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Speaker 1: you would say that, right. So the moment whenever something

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Speaker 1: like this happens and they say five, you know, with

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Speaker 1: with Halp burn over at MSNBC or with Thrush, the

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Speaker 1: fact that there's not an immediate within like hours these

727
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Speaker 1: are all complete and utter lies tells you a lot.

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Speaker 1: I think, I gotta be honest, you know, if you're

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Speaker 1: not willing to say that this is all, this is all,

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Speaker 1: you know, bull, then I think we got a problem. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And it's really interesting that most of these women are

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Speaker 1: telling the same stories. So when you look at someone

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Speaker 1: like Harvey Weinstein, who's got dozens of allegations under his belt, literally,

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Speaker 1: I guess he has all ninety or so women tell

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Speaker 1: similar stories about being seduced, being brought up to a

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Speaker 1: hotel room, or being brought to a bar are and

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Speaker 1: then to his apartment. In the same way that these

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Speaker 1: eight women have stories about Charlie Rose. They all talk

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Speaker 1: about him walking around in the nude, they all talk

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Speaker 1: about receiving weird voicemail messages, and these stories echo each other,

741
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Speaker 1: and the more of those you have, the less likely

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Speaker 1: these look to just be one person coming out of

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Speaker 1: the woodwork and saying, well, I don't like this guy,

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Speaker 1: so I'm just gonna say something terrible about him. Either

745
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: four or five or six or twelve people who are

746
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Speaker 1: coming out and giving the exact same story. When when

747
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 1: are people going to revisit that there was I forget

748
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Speaker 1: what the book was, and we're speaking to Emily the

749
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Speaker 1: Nati of the Daily Wire, by the way, um, who

750
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: is fabulous in every way? Uh, why aren't people going

751
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: to remember Emily that I think it was a book

752
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: that came out about Joe Biden and how he used

753
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 1: to walk around Female Secret Service just totally buck naked. Yeah,

754
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: Joe Biden actually has quite the history. Everyone thought this

755
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: was hilarious in the Obama years. They used to make

756
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: fun of Joe Biden, how he would come and up

757
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: behind women and hugged them from behind, or he let

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Speaker 1: them sit on there his lap. It's interesting that people

759
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,959
Speaker 1: really haven't gone after him as a predator, largely because

760
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Speaker 1: I think they think he's just a jovial former vice president.

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Speaker 1: He's kind of funny with his little glasses things like that.

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Speaker 1: But I think, can I just offer something. I think

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Speaker 1: that's a construct, Emily. I think the media created this

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Speaker 1: persona for him because he takes himself very seriously. They

765
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: just created this persona because he would he would have

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Speaker 1: these gaffs and then they go, oh, that's just Joe

767
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: being funny Joe, Yeah, exactly. But that's a product of

768
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Speaker 1: the media that's actually not who this guy is. I

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Speaker 1: know people that have worked them a lot, and they're like,

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Speaker 1: he's a he's kind of a jerk, and he takes

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Speaker 1: himself very seriously. Yeah, and he is. The things that

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Speaker 1: he did, it's sort of like with al Frankin. We've

773
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Speaker 1: now seen two allegations against Al Frankin, and in both

774
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: cases he just thought he was being funny. He thought

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00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 1: it was just all a joke and not realizing that

776
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: the lens of time can go back look at what

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00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: you did and say that's actually sexual harassment. It was

778
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: unwanted contact. Might have seemed funny in the early two thousands,

779
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: but it's not funny now. And the same thing is

780
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Speaker 1: with Joe Biden. Just because he's got this persona that

781
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: the media has created for him doesn't excuse unwanted contact.

782
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Speaker 1: And I've I've got your your stories here from the

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Speaker 1: Deli Wire Emily Jeffrey Tambor from the show Transparent. He's

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Speaker 1: out too. I didn't even I didn't look I I

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Speaker 1: I think that I'm pretty well informed. I can't even

786
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Speaker 1: keep up with all this. This guy, he's what's he

787
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Speaker 1: he's was he in? Um? He's better known for some

788
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Speaker 1: other shows, isn't he? What was development? There we go?

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Speaker 1: He's the dad and arrest of development and arrest of development? Yeah, alright,

790
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Speaker 1: So he's in a series called Transparent. It's a series

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Speaker 1: on Amazon about a man who transitions from male to

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Speaker 1: female later in life when he's already had kids. In

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Speaker 1: the twenty or thirty year marriage, he's accused of sexually

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Speaker 1: harassing and saying inappropriate and new things to two actual

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Speaker 1: transgender women who are on the show. So he says

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Speaker 1: he didn't do it. He says that these allegations are

797
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: being made up to make him feel uncomfortable, but the

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Speaker 1: show is going to write him out because they said

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Speaker 1: no one on the set of felt safe any longer

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Speaker 1: just because of these allegations. So Jeffrey Tambor has now

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00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: left that show and it will be filming at fifth

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Speaker 1: season without him. I'm just wondering when when an actor

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Speaker 1: is going to come forward, you know, particularly an actor,

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00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: and say, you know, this is all Maybe it's happened.

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00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 1: I just can't think of right now. But it seems

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00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: like so far, each time this happens, Emily there's not

807
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Speaker 1: a lot of like that's a bunch of lies. It

808
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: seems like these stories so far, particularly about the Hollywood folks,

809
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: overwhelmingly true. The only one that we've seen that's really

810
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: pushed back and been able to make any headway on

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Speaker 1: that is Jeremy Piven. He said that he would actually

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Speaker 1: take a lie detector test to prove that he did

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Speaker 1: not engage in sexual misconduct with three women who accused him,

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Speaker 1: and he passed that. Lie detector tests particularly reliable, but

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Speaker 1: it is a good sign for Jeremy Piven that the

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00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: accusers are not being completely truthful. Yes, he's the only

817
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: one we've seen has come out and said and not

818
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: hired Marty Singer, who's this great um defense attorney in

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Speaker 1: Hollywood's He's not come out with a statement, he's not

820
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Speaker 1: sicked his pr people on reporters like me. He's actually

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Speaker 1: said I took a lie detector test and I didn't

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Speaker 1: do it. So that's the only one that I've seen,

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00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: and now two months on this beat that's really made headway. Ooh,

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Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna put it out there, Emily, right,

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be more. We're how you back, There'll be

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Speaker 1: more of these. Oh, I'm absolutely positive there will be more,

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Speaker 1: all right, Emily's not everybody check out our latest at

828
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Speaker 1: the Daily Wire dot com. Emily, stay on the beat,

829
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Speaker 1: let us know what's up. We'll do. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna roll and do a break. Your team need

831
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Speaker 1: to talk to you about uh, well, we'll talk about

832
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: the tax bill coming up, and then in our three

833
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 1: North Korea now in the state sponsor of terror list,

834
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: and I got a whole bunch of other stuff, So

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Speaker 1: stay with me. It was not long ago that the

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Speaker 1: federal government had to admit to us all that the

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Speaker 1: i r S was engaged in political targeting. This is

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00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: an established fact. This isn't something that there's any continued

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Speaker 1: debate on. We know that lowest Learner and some of

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Speaker 1: her I r S fellow bureaucrats took it upon themselves

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Speaker 1: to penalize Americans, to use the power of the Internal

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Speaker 1: Revenue Service and to weaponize the tax collection Agency with

843
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Speaker 1: all of its investigatory and punitive powers for the purposes

844
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Speaker 1: of suppressing the Tea Party in an election year. Now,

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Speaker 1: they say that it was just it was complex, and

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00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: that you know, there's this effort that's always a part

847
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Speaker 1: of this discussion comes from the left to just doubt, Oh,

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Speaker 1: we were just so incompetent. Yeah, we just thought anybody

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Speaker 1: with patriot in the name of their five oh one

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Speaker 1: five oh one group should be five want to see

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Speaker 1: four should be there's five one c three? Well, anyway,

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Speaker 1: whichever one it is. That Lowest Learner thought that it

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Speaker 1: would be okay to use the fact that people were

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Speaker 1: trying to gather together under a political auspices as a

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Speaker 1: means to punish them. Right, she was overseeing tax exempt groups,

856
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Speaker 1: so that might be five one C three C four

857
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Speaker 1: is I'm not sure? Um? Sorry? Five oh one C

858
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Speaker 1: four tax exemptions. That's the one that we're thinking about here,

859
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Speaker 1: not five. So five one C four. She was using

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Speaker 1: the i r S as a cudgel against people, and

861
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Speaker 1: it was for political reasons. And now this is the

862
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Speaker 1: new this is what I'm talking about it today, this

863
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Speaker 1: is the news story here. Lowest Learner doesn't want you

864
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Speaker 1: to know just how bad it was. Now, this is

865
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Speaker 1: a problem. It's a problem for a lot of reasons.

866
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Speaker 1: But it's a problem because if it was just good

867
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Speaker 1: faith errors made by Lowest Learner and other people the

868
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: I R S. If it was just you know, they

869
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: made mistakes. But there was no bad faith, no ill intent,

870
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: no bureaucratic, politicized men's raya state of mind here intending

871
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: to do this. Why can't we know the full facts?

872
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: Here's what Fox is reporting today. Former I R S

873
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Speaker 1: official Lowest Learner and her deputy are asking a federal

874
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Speaker 1: court to keep their testimonies in the Tea Party jargon

875
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Speaker 1: in case private forever over fear of death threats and

876
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Speaker 1: potential harm to their families if the documents go public.

877
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 1: Learner and her deputy, Holly Paz, filed the motion last

878
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Speaker 1: Thursday to keep the materials, including tapes and transcripts, of

879
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Speaker 1: their depositions sealed due to threats they have received in

880
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: the past. Court documents reviewed by Fox News said the

881
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: public dissemination of their deposition testimony would expose them and

882
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: their families to harassment and credible risk of violence and

883
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: physical harm. And quote, Okay, someone is going to have

884
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:31,399
Speaker 1: to explain to me. Someone is gonna have to uh

885
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: tell me how it is that, given what's already known

886
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: about lowest Learner, given what is a matter of public record,

887
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: if we knew more about what her testimony was, it

888
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 1: would be so terrible unless and this is the key point,

889
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: unless we don't know everything that matters here. Unless there

890
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: were reasons and there was evidence that would make anybody

891
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: who heard it or knew about I believe that this

892
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: was not in any way some accident, that this was

893
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 1: the nightmare scenario really for any of us who care

894
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: about the federal government being an instrument of yes, defense

895
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: of our rights and defense of the Constitution, not a

896
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: not a partisan weapon, for any of us who have

897
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: those concerns and have been concerned about this up to

898
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: this point, that the I r S officials involved think

899
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Speaker 1: that their testimony is so explosive that we can't know

900
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:35,760
Speaker 1: about it that it should have to be stealed forever.

901
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: Doesn't that then just tell us alone, without knowing anything else.

902
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 1: We gotta know what was said. We need to know

903
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: what Lois Learner said. I think the Obama administration I've

904
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: just stepped back for the from the specifics of the

905
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: secrecy requests in this case. I think that the obaministration

906
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 1: got off very easy. Now, a lot of you're gonna say,

907
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: but of course they did. The fix was in at

908
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: the d O. J Obama was a a hyperpartisan president

909
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: that had the media covering form at every turn. The

910
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: Tea Party caused an enormous way of election for conservatives,

911
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 1: and there was, yes, the deep state, the deep state

912
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: element within the federal government that thought that they had

913
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Speaker 1: to do something to protect Obama's second term, and all

914
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: of a sudden you have the targeting of the Tea Party.

915
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: It was widespread, it was systematic, It abused people, and

916
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Speaker 1: it may have stifled what could have grown into an

917
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: equally potent movement in because when you look at when

918
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Speaker 1: the targeting happened, it was at a time to create

919
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: maximum benefit for the Democrats for Obama, maximum benefit because

920
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: of the suppression of republican conservative ideas at that time.

921
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: That was key. The timeline is key. You look at

922
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,919
Speaker 1: the timeline and you can see why this was done

923
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: when it was done, and Obama just kind of got

924
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: away with this. Whenever people say that Trump is some

925
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: threat to the Constitution throughout the First Amendment, especially in

926
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 1: the media, I always want to yell back at them,

927
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, who was the president? Who whose Department of

928
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:30,760
Speaker 1: Justice authorized the wire tapping and seizure of phone records

929
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: of journalists? That was the Obama administration. Who was the

930
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: president under who's watch? The Executive Branch Tax Collection Agency,

931
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: the i r S was used for the explicit and

932
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Speaker 1: openly now we know this used for the purposes of

933
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: political suppression and intermidation. That was That was Obama. I mean,

934
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Speaker 1: I can go down a list. I'm just this is

935
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Speaker 1: just off the top of my head, we go into

936
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: much more. He was given such a pass for all

937
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: of this, and there was this pretense in the media that, yeah,

938
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Speaker 1: you know, was a few I R S people at

939
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,919
Speaker 1: a field office and no big deal. That was a lie.

940
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: That was fake news. And we've never really gotten the

941
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: full truth of what happened with the I r S.

942
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: They were destroyed hard drives. And when you go back

943
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Speaker 1: and you dig into this, and I'm not talking about

944
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory stuff. I'm talking about the facts on the

945
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 1: record with the I r S and it's weaponized targeting

946
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: of the Tea Party and how the federal government was

947
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: used to betray the American people. You go back and

948
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: you look at it, and it stinks to high heaven.

949
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: It really does. And now, sure enough, Lowest Learner and

950
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Speaker 1: company don't want us to know what they said in depositions,

951
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,720
Speaker 1: don't want us to have access to the facts. Sorry,

952
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: it's not classified, it's not about national security. We should know.

953
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: We have a right to know. With that, my friends,

954
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: I'll be back in just a few The New York

955
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: City subway is not something that I'm sure a lot

956
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: of you spend much time caring about right. And I

957
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: get that unless you're listening to the show and you

958
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: live in New York, You're like, Buck, why is the

959
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: New York City subway a thing that you're gonna talk

960
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: to us about on the radio show. Well, here's here's

961
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: an important it's an important lesson. It's an important lesson

962
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: for why public sector unions and corruption and just local

963
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: politics are are are as toxic and ridiculous as they are.

964
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Speaker 1: And there's a piece in the New York Times of

965
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,919
Speaker 1: the weekend, how do the subways get so bad? Now?

966
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Speaker 1: This is this is the largest city in the country.

967
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 1: The subway serves a metro area, well New York City itself,

968
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: the Five Boroughs is eight million people. And the subway

969
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: is getting worse and worse. And when you dig into why,

970
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: it's corrupt political corrupt, political side deals and nonsense going on.

971
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: But also, I mean public sector unions. There is so

972
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:15,439
Speaker 1: much money. I mean, it is astonishing, so much money

973
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: that goes into the New York City subway system. Um

974
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: and the people who work for it are making unbelievable,

975
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: unbelievable amounts of money. And there are people who are supervisors,

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00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: who are supervisors in the MT a subway system in

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00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: New York City who are making three hundred thousand dollars

978
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: a year. These are public employees. Everybody three hundred grand.

979
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: Now you could say, oh, buck well, that's what the

980
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: market will bear, but no, that's where public sector unions

981
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: come in. That's where you see that there is an

982
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: on the holy alliance. And this is true in any

983
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: number of places across the country. So wherever you are,

984
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: if there are any Democrats in charge, I promise you

985
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 1: and there's a public sector union, to look at what

986
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: happened in Wisconsin. You are seeing this happen and you

987
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: are dealing with the effects of having Democrats statusts who remember,

988
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: the Democrat Party is the party of the state in

989
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: this country, and the statuss are are supporting and voting

990
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: for Democrats and vice versa. So public sector employees, ideologically speaking,

991
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: are are overwhelmingly going to be Democrats, going to be left.

992
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: And that's why what ends up happening is you have

993
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: in cities or localities anywhere across the country, whether it's

994
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: public school teachers or New York's or not New York City,

995
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: or or you know, mass transit workers or just bureaucrats.

996
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: You run the run the local uh you know, town

997
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 1: hall or the state house or whatever they are house

998
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: of the fact that they can often get pay increases

999
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: that vest over time, and their benefits packages are delayed,

1000
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: and there's all these different ways that they can increase

1001
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: they can get their pay increased. And the politicians want

1002
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: the support of the unions because it's a major voting

1003
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: block and their families will vote to right. They create

1004
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: single issue voters, these politicians who are working with these

1005
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: public sector unions, they create single issue voters. And the

1006
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 1: incentive is then just on the politician, whether they're talking

1007
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 1: about a mayor or state legislature or whomever. They just

1008
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: keep the benefits going up and up and up, keep

1009
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 1: the pay going up, and you end up paying a

1010
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: whole lot more money than people would get on the

1011
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: on the private sector side of things. You it is

1012
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: routine for those of you listening to think about this, Okay,

1013
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: it is routine in New York City now for subway

1014
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: workers mt A workers on the executive side to make

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01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: a hundred seventy a year. That's a lot of money

1016
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: for a a public sector employee. I mean that that

1017
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 1: is some serious cash. And why I mean is there

1018
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: is there some reason that that is happening, Is there? So? Well, yeah,

1019
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: because people want to get reelected. And it doesn't come

1020
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 1: out of the mayor's pocket, right, it doesn't. It doesn't

1021
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: come out of it doesn't come out of the politicians

1022
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: pockets who are voting for the increases. So they get

1023
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: to keep their jobs, they get to feel good about

1024
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: themselves because the public sector employees are making more money

1025
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: and they say, oh, well, you know, helping our our

1026
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: hard working bureaucrats in this country. But it is just astonishing,

1027
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 1: absolutely astonishing, how much money some of these public sector

1028
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: employees are making. And there was a time a few

1029
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: years ago, right after the crash where there was a

1030
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Speaker 1: focus put on all this, and I think there was

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Speaker 1: a I think there was a city manager in I

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Speaker 1: want to say Vallejo, California, but it might have been

1033
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: stocked in, but it was a city manager for a

1034
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: small city that was bankrupt, they were close to it.

1035
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: He was making like seven hundred thousand dollars a year.

1036
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: It's just crazy, and people finally said, WHOA is that

1037
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: a control And there was a a bit of a

1038
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: clamp down on that, but I mean, you cannot you

1039
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: cannot make this stuff up. And when you look at

1040
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 1: how how profoundly dysfunctional public sector unions are across the

1041
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: country in terms of the costs associated with them, I

1042
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 1: mean the long term pension. I mean, this is it's

1043
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: destroying states like Illinois, public sector unions in the destroying

1044
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: states like California. It's a long, slow decline, but it's happening.

1045
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,919
Speaker 1: And I would encourage you to check out this piece

1046
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: of the New York Times about it, and you'll see

1047
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,919
Speaker 1: just what I'm talking about with how the money doesn't

1048
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: go what it's supposed to go to. Nobody's really in charge,

1049
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 1: the states in charge of some of the subway, the

1050
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: cities in charge of some of the subway. You know,

1051
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: everyone's just pointing fingers that everybody else. And all the while,

1052
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Speaker 1: pension obligations are getting steeper and steeper, pays paychecks are

1053
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: going up. I mean, only in government is the response

1054
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 1: to failure. We need more. We need more money always,

1055
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: no matter what right, what poor performance. Give us more money.

1056
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 1: The system is crumbling, Give us more money. You know,

1057
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 1: we need to do something about the corruption system. Give

1058
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 1: us more money. We'll get rid of the corruption. I mean,

1059
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Speaker 1: it's just it's the same thing. I mean, they've got

1060
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell. That

1061
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Speaker 1: is how government operates, and it's certainly the case at

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Speaker 1: the at the level of when you get involved with

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Speaker 1: public sector unions, it is just as honishing dollars everybody

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Speaker 1: for working for a subway system, okay, and lots of

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Speaker 1: people making that Hunter seventy grand is like, you know, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: no big deal, no big whoop. It is just madness.

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Speaker 1: And I'm somebody who's had to deal with sitting on

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Speaker 1: the subway. It's super hot and uncomfortable, and this trains

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Speaker 1: get stuck between stations and to the biggest city in

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Speaker 1: the country wherever you are. I'm telling you it is

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Speaker 1: worth learning about what's going on in New York because

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Speaker 1: it's just a window into why, well, for one, why

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Speaker 1: public sector unions should just be abolished across the board.

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Speaker 1: I mean, even Woodrow Wilson, I'm pretty sure it was

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Speaker 1: like no public sector unions. That's or maybe it was

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Speaker 1: FDR forget now. One of them said that's crazy, Okay.

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Speaker 1: One of them said that is crazy, and I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it certainly is. And that's why New York City Subway

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Speaker 1: is running sixty percent on time right now. Is wildly expensive,

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Speaker 1: and you got a lot of people making hundreds of

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Speaker 1: thousands of dollars to do their job badly. All we're

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Speaker 1: gonna come back and talking about cash, We'll talk about taxes,

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Speaker 1: and we've got a Trump supporter who says, look, this

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Speaker 1: tax bill is not that good. We'll talk about it

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Speaker 1: right after break. Welcome back team. I'm not going on

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Speaker 1: in the world of politics. We're gonna be gosh, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be talking about mid term soon. But even before then,

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Speaker 1: we got taxes to talk about. And we got our

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Speaker 1: buddy ned Ryan on the line to shed some light

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Speaker 1: on the tax situation. The tax man, the taxman himself,

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Speaker 1: just kidding. That sounds like you're an I R S agent.

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Speaker 1: Ned Ryan's with us. He's a founder, founder and CEO

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Speaker 1: of American Majority Action. Former presidential writer for President George W. Bush.

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Speaker 1: Good to have you, ned Hey, good to be back.

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Speaker 1: But you know, that was kind of damaging to my

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Speaker 1: reputation there book. I mean, I don't want to be

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Speaker 1: associated with the I R S. Don't don't be staying

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Speaker 1: tax man, But yeah, that that was a miss a

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Speaker 1: misspeak on my part, sir, the the the expert on

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Speaker 1: the tax man. There we go. Well, you know this

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01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 1: Senate plan is troubling block um on a couple of funds.

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Speaker 1: And I made a crack on TVD David. If you're

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Speaker 1: a hedge fund, private equity or uber wealthy real estate guy,

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Speaker 1: you love the plan. Everybody else should hate it um

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01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: you know when it comes in regards to the center plant.

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01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 1: So I kind of just build it out for people.

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Speaker 1: You know, President Trump ran on closing the carry an

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Speaker 1: interest loophole that is not done, has not been done

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Speaker 1: in eye of the House or the Centate Bill, and

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Speaker 1: I think in some ways it's it's been a favor

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Speaker 1: by I call him the swamp dwellers in Congress to

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Speaker 1: protect their donors. And I gotta tell you too, I

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01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 1: have strong suspicions that to the guys involved in Ryan

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Speaker 1: to Bill, Garry Cone and Steve Nuchin had reasons in

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Speaker 1: that clothes that that carried interest loophole either. And again

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Speaker 1: for people who are listening to understand, these guys are

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Speaker 1: in hedge fund private equity, they're paying instead of the

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Speaker 1: thirty nine point six tax bracket. They're paying at saying

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Speaker 1: that their their compensation is really capital gain uh and

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Speaker 1: not income. And so you know, Donald Trump ran in

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Speaker 1: closing that that's not being done. You know. The other

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Speaker 1: thing to be aware of two is on page ninety

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Speaker 1: four of the Senate bill, all of a sudden, real

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Speaker 1: estate depreciation lives goes from thirty nine to twenty five years.

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Speaker 1: And for those listening to understand, that really helps uh

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Speaker 1: an older generation of real estate developers that want to

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Speaker 1: punch out uh in will cost Treasury hundreds of billions

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Speaker 1: of dollars in revenue over the next twenty years. And

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Speaker 1: then then you start to get to us, you know,

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Speaker 1: you start to look at the middle and upper middle class. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what happened to forgot the forgotten folks? Ned? I thought

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Speaker 1: we're all about the forgotten folks with this administration. I'm

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Speaker 1: feeling pretty forgotten right now. I'm feeling extremely forgotten right now, Buck,

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Speaker 1: Because not only are these uh some some people are

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Speaker 1: gonna get a tax raise out of this Center Plan,

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Speaker 1: they're temporary cuts. I think they're gonna stays out in.

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Speaker 1: Another egregious part of it is the small business passed

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Speaker 1: through tax rate and the Senate Plan House Plan had

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Speaker 1: it at the Senate said we're gonna put it at

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Speaker 1: and also make it temporary. And the only positive thing

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Speaker 1: in my mind in the Senate bill is them lowering

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Speaker 1: the corporate tax to and makes it making it permanent,

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna push that off the year. And so

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Speaker 1: I have a hard time believing. I am hopeful, actually,

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Speaker 1: Book that the plan as it now stands that it

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Speaker 1: will not pass the Senate, because I think it is

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Speaker 1: a terrible plan in fact, could have massive implications and

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Speaker 1: not good ones for Republicans. Oh my gosh. And now

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Speaker 1: we're at a place where we would have to and

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm taking what you say here and trying

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01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 1: to run it downfield a little bit more if you

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01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 1: think it might be a good thing if this doesn't pass.

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Speaker 1: But as you will know, Ned, that would then also

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Speaker 1: mean that people would be saying, hey, Congress, what the

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Speaker 1: heck do you do here? They they have they have,

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01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: honestly think Ms mcconollin or in Hatch literally overdosed on

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Speaker 1: stupid pills. Book in regards to this bill, I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is a terrible bill. And at the same time,

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Speaker 1: you're making the right point. They have had a full

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Speaker 1: year to pass some form of policy, some reform that

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump ran on that people wanted to see happen,

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Speaker 1: And now you have a bill that I think is

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Speaker 1: terrible and could actually be extremely damaging to them. So

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Speaker 1: my hope is that, as the bill now stands will

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Speaker 1: not pass the Senate, that we go back and we

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Speaker 1: have a debate about you know, again, what potist of

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Speaker 1: which Home called for a flat or simple plan that

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Speaker 1: actually benefited all Americans. I don't make this out of

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Speaker 1: point to buck. If there are not if there's not

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Speaker 1: a noticeable net increase in people's paychecks in I think

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Speaker 1: that's a real problem for Republicans. Look, I I I

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Speaker 1: have to say, and I've been talking to uh. I'm

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Speaker 1: down here in d C right now. I guess your

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Speaker 1: neck of the woods dead and you know what we were,

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Speaker 1: We're not too far from each other. Oh wow, Okay, hey,

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Speaker 1: high five from afar. So, but I would just point

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Speaker 1: out that I've spoke. I've spoken to some of my

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Speaker 1: friends down here who are Democrats today in the course

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Speaker 1: of my my dealings and doings here, and I'm like, look,

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Speaker 1: if I'm a Bernie Sanders esque liberal, I can't ask

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01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 1: for a bigger forget about people are gonna tell me.

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01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:44,679
Speaker 1: I know, I could get all like the former Reagan

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01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 1: speech writers on or no it's about growth. I I

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01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 1: get it. But the ads right themselves. If the only

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Speaker 1: thing that really comes out of this Republican Congress is

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01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 1: a corporate tax break and not something not middle class

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01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 1: taxes or going down you know, overall, or going down

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01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: whatever may be, the ads for the redistributionists left right

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Speaker 1: themselves for the mid terms. That's just my political concern.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about the growth. I'm worried

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Speaker 1: about the politics right now. And again, let's just not

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01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:19,759
Speaker 1: forget that there are nearly two dozen House members Republican

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Speaker 1: House members sitting in districts that Hillary one in. This

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Speaker 1: is not inconceivable. If they botch the tax plan, that

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Speaker 1: Republicans lose the House. I think they could keep the Senate,

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Speaker 1: but who knows. I mean, at this point, I'm still

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Speaker 1: wondering why we have a GOP majority and why Mitch

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Speaker 1: McConnell's leader in the Senate after just a I would

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Speaker 1: consider an utter disaster of a year. This is a

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Speaker 1: real problem politically speaking for Republicans. They have put themselves

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Speaker 1: in a corner. They have done it of their own stupidity.

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Speaker 1: I've I've also said that you know, you could give

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Speaker 1: Republicans the football and the twenty yard line, tell the

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01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 1: defense to lead the field and they still throw an interception. Ye,

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Speaker 1: they've done it. They have literally done it in such

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Speaker 1: a way that they have put themselves in almost a

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Speaker 1: no win situation. They have to pass a tax plan

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Speaker 1: that is real reform. What we have right now is

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Speaker 1: not real reform, and so they've got to go back,

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Speaker 1: I think, to the drawing board and figure out how

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Speaker 1: they make something happen that it's legitimately tax reform for

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Speaker 1: the middle and upper middle class. I made this point

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Speaker 1: in my obed recently at the Hill about let's you know,

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Speaker 1: let's be honest. This is in tax reform. Essentially, people

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Speaker 1: are gonna get dollars back over the course of the year.

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Speaker 1: That's basically a nice date night once a month. And

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Speaker 1: so you think you're gonna bribe us with a date

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Speaker 1: night once a month and then hand off hundreds of

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Speaker 1: billions of dollars for the private equity hedge fund and

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Speaker 1: real estates. Ablop I had this conversation in the Fox

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Speaker 1: News Green room with a whole room full of people,

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Speaker 1: and I was like that, I need to stop hearing

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Speaker 1: about how everything's gonna be great because the middle class.

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Speaker 1: You said, the hundred I've heard, you know, a couple

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Speaker 1: of thousand. Look, a couple of thousand bucks in people's

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Speaker 1: pockets is great. But understand that if it's a couple

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Speaker 1: of thousand dollars in their pocket, we lose control in

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Speaker 1: the Congress. You know, at the end of eighteen guess

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Speaker 1: what they can start put shaming for. You know that

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Speaker 1: bucks you've got, Uncle Sam might decide who wants it

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Speaker 1: back with interest the next time they play with the

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Speaker 1: tax code. That's right. I I think this is again

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Speaker 1: a massive opportunity that is being squandered. I've got real

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Speaker 1: concerns about what's being discussed right now. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: and again I don't know, quite frankly, Buck, how they

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Speaker 1: get themselves out of this situation. Again, that the bill

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Speaker 1: is coming to the floor of the Senate after Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: I have a hard time believing we're gonna see anything.

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Speaker 1: Add it now stands happened before the end of the

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Speaker 1: year in regards the taxis one. But I gotta tell

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Speaker 1: you right now what we're looking at. I don't want

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Speaker 1: anything to do with what's being discussed in the Senate.

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Speaker 1: We're speaking to Ned Ryan, founder and CEO of American

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Speaker 1: Majority Action. You can follow him on Twitter n E

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Speaker 1: d R y U N ned Uh. Tell me this

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Speaker 1: what what could be done to make this thing better?

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01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 1: I mean, how will we get ned Ryan? And by

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01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 1: the way, you're not alone. I know some other some

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01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 1: other legit conservatives who want the who want the President

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Speaker 1: to do well, who are very concerned about this bill.

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Speaker 1: What could be done to make it hit your approval?

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Speaker 1: You've got it. First of all, I haven't been making

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Speaker 1: the argument the small business passed through tax I think

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Speaker 1: should actually reflect the corporate tax. I think you've got

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Speaker 1: to get it closer to You cannot go above and

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Speaker 1: so the Senate, you know, plan having a thirty percent

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Speaker 1: and making a temporary that is absurd and a nonstar.

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Speaker 1: So it's got to be at a minimum and it

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Speaker 1: has to be permanent. You can't have seven tax brackets

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Speaker 1: like the Senate plan has, go back to four. Get it,

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Speaker 1: make it simpler. And then again there's got to be

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Speaker 1: something of in it for guys like middle and upper

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Speaker 1: middle class. So there's got to be a noticeable pay

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Speaker 1: cut on the tax brackets. You've got to simplify that,

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Speaker 1: you know. I love the fact that they're talking about

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Speaker 1: making the corporate tax permanent. Put it now. I'm hearing

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Speaker 1: Susan Collins saying at twenty two has to be at

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Speaker 1: twenty has to be permanent if we can get a

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Speaker 1: couple of those things done on the small business passed

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Speaker 1: through and get a little bit more from the middle,

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Speaker 1: upper middle. Okay, I can have that conversation. So it's possible.

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Speaker 1: It's possible, but right now, not not looking at quick quick,

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Speaker 1: quick prediction before you tell us, uh, whether you or

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Speaker 1: or the missage is in charge of of the Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: turkey or you're like a sides guy, or you do

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Speaker 1: clean up for Thanksgiving? Um, and that is this is

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Speaker 1: not gonna happen for the end of the year. No,

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Speaker 1: it's not. I really don't, because you have to the

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Speaker 1: House has passed its bill, center has to pass its

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Speaker 1: building and be wildly different. Then you gotta go to reconciliation.

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Speaker 1: Then that bill has to go through the House, then

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Speaker 1: it has to go through the Senate without changes by

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Speaker 1: the way, then it goes to the President's death to

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Speaker 1: be signed. So we're kind of at the end of

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the whole process. And the single best

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Speaker 1: food item for a traditional Thanksgiving feast, ned Ryan, is what.

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, so I mash it all together. I'm one

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Speaker 1: of those guys that puts it all together. It's gotta

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Speaker 1: be sweet potatoes. It's gotta be real potatoes. It's gotta

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Speaker 1: be stuffing. It's gotta be turkey, put gravy all over

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Speaker 1: it and mix it up. Awesome, and then wow, you

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Speaker 1: go with you go with the Thanksgiving super plate. I'll

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Speaker 1: super plate and it's gotta be chocolate run cake and

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Speaker 1: some pumpkin pie. And I'm a happy everybody. Ned Ryan

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Speaker 1: doesn't mess around when come to Thanksgiving or America or

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Speaker 1: the tax coat for that matter. Ned Ryan, everybody not

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Speaker 1: great to have you. Man. Talk to you soon. Team

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Speaker 1: We're gonna roll in a quick break. Will be right back.

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Speaker 1: You are now entering the Freedom Tactical Operations Center. All

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Speaker 1: sensitive programs must you can't strictly need to know. Team

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Speaker 1: Buck is cleared and ready for the Buck Brief. The

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Speaker 1: primary goals of our trip was to pursue the de

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Speaker 1: nuclearization of the Korean peninsula. I want to begin this

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Speaker 1: morning by meeting and by talking about the fact that

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Speaker 1: we will be instituting a very critical step, and that'll

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Speaker 1: start right now. Today. The United States is designating North

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Speaker 1: Korea has a state sponsor of terrorism. Should have happened

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Speaker 1: a long time ago, should have happened years ago. In

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Speaker 1: addition to threatening the world a nuclear devastation, North Korea

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Speaker 1: has repeatedly supported acts of international terrorism, including assassinations on

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Speaker 1: foreign soil. As we take this action today, our thoughts

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Speaker 1: turned to otto, warm beer, wonderful young man, and the

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Speaker 1: countless others so brutally affected by the North Korean oppression.

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Speaker 1: This designation will impose further sanctions and penalties on North

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Speaker 1: Korea and related persons, and supports our maximum pressure campaign

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Speaker 1: to isolate the murderous regime. Tomorrow, the Treasury Department will

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Speaker 1: be announcing an additional sanction at a very large one

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Speaker 1: or North Korea, and this will be going on over

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Speaker 1: the next two weeks. It will be the highest level

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Speaker 1: of sanctions by the time it's finished. Over the week period.

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Speaker 1: There you have President Trump making it quite clear that

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Speaker 1: they are going to continue to apply pressure to North Korea.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think this is a very interesting part

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Speaker 1: of of the administration's policies right now, because there is

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Speaker 1: a bipartisan understanding. Even Trump's most implacable critics, even those

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Speaker 1: who they just hate everything Trump does, they recognize that

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Speaker 1: North Korea. They have to recognize or else they're delusional.

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Speaker 1: North Korea is a is a major threat, and that

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Speaker 1: even if North Korea does not hit US with a

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Speaker 1: nuclear missile, right which is the biggest fear, or that

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Speaker 1: it fires a nuclear missile at US, there remains the

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Speaker 1: possibility or the I wouldn't say possibility, the likelihood perhaps

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Speaker 1: even the inevitability of North Korea doing other things that

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Speaker 1: are deeply destabilizing that our security threats to us. North

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Speaker 1: Korean cyber capabilities. You know, people make these jokes about, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know, Kim Jong on, what's he to do, throw

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Speaker 1: his floppy disk, get us out of his you know,

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Speaker 1: IBM computer from the eighties, and and it's I agree

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Speaker 1: that it can be kind of funny sometimes, except the

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Speaker 1: reality is that North Korea has spent a lot of

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Speaker 1: money on offensive cyber warfare capabilities, that North Koreans are

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Speaker 1: able to operate outside of Korean territory North Korean territory.

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Speaker 1: And if you look back at the Sony Hack, he

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Speaker 1: believe that was North Korea in a political reprisal for

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Speaker 1: a completely preposterous movie called The Interview with Seth Rogan

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Speaker 1: and some other stoner actor guy's name I can't remember

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Speaker 1: right now. Wasn't a good movie, by the way, it

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Speaker 1: was not a good movie. But they they are very aggressive.

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Speaker 1: And when you have a regime like North Korea that

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Speaker 1: has already so cut off from the international community, there's

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Speaker 1: so many there are so many efforts under way to

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Speaker 1: constrict North Korea's economic activity, that for the North to engage,

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Speaker 1: for the Kim dynasty to engage in aggressive either cyber

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Speaker 1: or other actions abroad just to raise money, to to

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Speaker 1: get hard cash. You know, we've got to think of

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Speaker 1: a rogue state. It means that it doesn't really care

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Speaker 1: what anybody thinks about anything, right, it doesn't really care

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Speaker 1: what the It doesn't care what federal law or international

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Speaker 1: law or anything else US federal law has to say

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Speaker 1: about its actions. So it's a cyber concern, it's an

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Speaker 1: international criminal concern. And then when you add on top

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Speaker 1: of that proliferation, think of it this way, what better

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Speaker 1: method could North Korea choose to make our lives difficult

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Speaker 1: and to increase the sleepless nights that those who are

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Speaker 1: making the big, the high level decisions about how to

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Speaker 1: protect the homeland. What would be easier for North Korea

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Speaker 1: than to take it's new clear and also just conventional technology,

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Speaker 1: missile technology, and give it to whomever agrees to be

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Speaker 1: a pain for the United States and most notably Iran.

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Speaker 1: But that's all. That relationship is long standing and people

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Speaker 1: have been concerned about that, rightly for a long time.

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Speaker 1: But what are we gonna do if we catch them proliferating,

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Speaker 1: They're just gonna say it didn't happen. They will give

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Speaker 1: some speech at the U N saying that you know,

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Speaker 1: the U s or warmongers and were liars and we

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Speaker 1: lied about Iraq. And we have this conception that there

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Speaker 1: will be accountability for the North Korea going for It's

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Speaker 1: not gonna be any accountability. What are we gonna do.

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Speaker 1: We're we're already doing a lot to hurt them economically,

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Speaker 1: and that's why this designation as a terrorist as a

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Speaker 1: state sponsor of terror is Look, it's not gonna it's

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Speaker 1: not gonna change the game. I don't want to overstate.

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Speaker 1: Is it the right move? Yeah, I think it's the

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Speaker 1: right move. Is it going to do all that much?

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Speaker 1: Probably not? And when I see do all that much,

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Speaker 1: does it change the fundamental realities? As I've told you,

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Speaker 1: North Korea exists for two reasons, right. The the the

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Speaker 1: the stated rationale of North Korea for its existence. The

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Speaker 1: regime is in power so that it can defend the

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Speaker 1: Korean people from what it views as outside aggressors. It's

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Speaker 1: one way of just saying, basically, us in our allies

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Speaker 1: and the South Korean puppet regime that they say is

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Speaker 1: just an extension of the United States, and to reunify

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Speaker 1: the Korean peninsula. That's it. It's not really a a

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Speaker 1: communist regime in in an ideological sense at all, because

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Speaker 1: it has moved far away from that. Yeah, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of workers stuff, and there's there's some borrowed elements

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Speaker 1: of Stalinism, to be sure, a lot of borrowed elements

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Speaker 1: of Stalinism. But there's no international workers struggle that North

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Speaker 1: Korea is trying to either tack onto or or gin

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Speaker 1: up on its own somewhere. Right, There's there's not some

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Speaker 1: effort to have international connectivity with the North Korean Communist

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Speaker 1: Party with all these other right, there's no communist international.

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Speaker 1: It is a hypernationalist, hyper militant state that seeks to

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Speaker 1: unify the Korean people under one regime and to defend

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Speaker 1: them from all outside and to these powers and interference.

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Speaker 1: That's it, and that's all. It does not have aspirations

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Speaker 1: to dominate the world. It does not have aspirations to

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Speaker 1: ideologically unify with other countries. In fact, it's probably, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think you could argue it is the most xenophobic

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Speaker 1: country on the planet, as well as very racist. I've

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Speaker 1: told you many times about the book The Cleanest Race

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Speaker 1: by I think it's Stevie Myers is the author's name,

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Speaker 1: and it is an exploration of the racial the racial

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01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 1: propaganda that is very similar to the racial propaganda and

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Speaker 1: Hero Hitos Japan, which of course was contemporaneous with the

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Speaker 1: racial propaganda of Hitler's Nazi Germany. Right. So this is

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Speaker 1: a hold over, yes, of the Cold War, but it's

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Speaker 1: also pre Cold War. North Korea is pre Cold War,

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Speaker 1: and some of it's thinking, some of its ideology, and

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Speaker 1: in many of it it's concepts. Actually, so state sponsor

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Speaker 1: of terror is the right move. Trump administration doing the

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Speaker 1: right thing. But I won't want to set expectations for

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Speaker 1: the effects of this too high because North Korea is

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Speaker 1: not giving up nukes. It's not gonna happen, because the

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Speaker 1: moment it gives up nukes, then it feels like one

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Speaker 1: it loses a tremendous amount of prestigian credibility among its

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Speaker 1: military apparatus, which is really you know, North Korea is

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01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: a is a dictatorship, a military apparatus with a country

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Speaker 1: attached to it. Right, it's not a country with a

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Speaker 1: military apparatus. And the moment that they lose that credibility,

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Speaker 1: that force that nukes are the ultimate force, then they

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Speaker 1: have real stability problems internally. And you do not want

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Speaker 1: to when when you're in a country that will lock

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Speaker 1: people up for generations because of a thought crime from

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Speaker 1: one generation to lock up the children, the grandchildren. You

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Speaker 1: do not want to be on the losing side of

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Speaker 1: a coup, right, You don't want to be if there's

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Speaker 1: a transition of power somehow, Which how that would even

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01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 1: happen in a cult of personality like the Camera gime,

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01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 1: nobody even knows, but there'll probably be a lot of

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Speaker 1: a lot of people that would be disappeared very quickly

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Speaker 1: from within the upper leadership of North Korea. So it's

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Speaker 1: zero sum for them. They're not giving up nukes, and

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Speaker 1: we can try and entice them, induce them, coerce them,

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Speaker 1: threaten them all day. There's nothing right now that leads

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Speaker 1: anybody that I know or read, or nothing that leads

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01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 1: that leads them to believe that North Korea is going

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Speaker 1: to give up its nuclear weapons. In fact, it's going

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01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 1: the opposite direction as we no, testing more missiles and

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01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 1: advancing its nuclear program as fast as it can. So.

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Speaker 1: Now North Korea joins an infamous list of countries designated

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Speaker 1: a state sponsors of terror, Iran, Sudan, and Syria. Syria

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Speaker 1: has been on there since nineteen seventy nine, Iran since

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Speaker 1: eighty four, and Sudan since nineteen nine three. That's a

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Speaker 1: small list, the state sponsor terrorism list. But it is,

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Speaker 1: it is important, it is it is potent. And but

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Speaker 1: you know, let's be clear, Rex Tillerson was saying, uh,

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Speaker 1: Rex Stillerson and saying that this is still they're still

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Speaker 1: keeping the diplomatic door open, right that they want to

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Speaker 1: have that as an option play that clip please tie. No,

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Speaker 1: we still hope for diplomacy, and this is the timing

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Speaker 1: of this is just want us concluding the process. There

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Speaker 1: is a very specific designation process that we have to

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Speaker 1: go through the State Department to be able to meet

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Speaker 1: the crimes area to make such a designation, and if

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Speaker 1: we wanted to ensure we had fully met all those requirements. Again,

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Speaker 1: this is all part of just continuing to turn this

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Speaker 1: pressure up. Pressure. That's what this is about. You know,

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Speaker 1: this is carrots and sticks, and this administration is waving

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Speaker 1: more sticks. You know, it's trying to do more to

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Speaker 1: create the beginnings and opening even for North Korea's stepped

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Speaker 1: to to start to step down, to start to climb

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Speaker 1: down from its psychotically bellicost posture. That's what they're hoping for.

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Speaker 1: Can we get there? I don't know. I am bearish

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Speaker 1: on diplomacy with North Korea and most of the people

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Speaker 1: that I know that I think I have some idea

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01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 1: what the heck they're talking about. When it comes to

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Speaker 1: foreign policy issues, they're bearish too. But we gotta keep

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Speaker 1: doing what we can do. The administration has done the

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01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:59,639
Speaker 1: right thing here and they will continue to apply pressure

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01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:01,559
Speaker 1: We've got much more coming up. Team, I'll be back

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01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:03,639
Speaker 1: in just if you will get into Team Buck speaks

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01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 1: later on in the hour. And also hunting big game.

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01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 1: Hunting is is shooting an elephant something that people should

1486
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 1: be able to do? Why would they want to do it?

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01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 1: We will explore that together. I pose that question to you,

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01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 1: why would somebody want to shoot an elephant? We'll get

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01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:26,639
Speaker 1: back to that and more. Stay with me. So sometimes Team,

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01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 1: when I come back from a weekend, I like to

1491
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 1: share with you my thoughts on on films and UH

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01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 1: and the entertainment that is out there. And I just

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01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:40,679
Speaker 1: have to say that I mentioned before the movie the interview,

1494
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 1: which I wish was funny, like I wanted to like it,

1495
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 1: but it was not. It was not partically funny, but

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01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:51,679
Speaker 1: I forced myself because I just wanted to know how

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01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 1: how bad can a movie be that you spend over

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01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 1: a hundred million dollars on? I I'm talking I forget

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01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 1: about Yeah. I know people would say there's like Blair

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01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 1: Witch Project rip offs where somebody with a handheld camera

1501
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:09,640
Speaker 1: from the run around like the monsters are coming for me.

1502
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, there's really bad stuff out there. But

1503
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 1: I'm talking about in this day and age, given how

1504
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:21,679
Speaker 1: hyper competitive it is to get a creative project made. Uh,

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01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 1: it's a it's amazing to me that you can still

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01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 1: have a situation where you can sell, a situation where

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01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 1: a movie like The Great Wall could be made. You know,

1508
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:38,560
Speaker 1: when when I was in high school, there was a

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01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 1: restaurant that was close to the school called Great Wall

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01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 1: Chinese Food. And and I really mean this, if you

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01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 1: had taken a like a security camera and just showed

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01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 1: the like you know, general reality TV show of the

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01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 1: Great Wall Chinese Restaurant and just all the because all

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01:28:57,360 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 1: these high school kids were all coming and going from there,

1515
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 1: and you know, thing like like teenage guys do, and

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01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 1: you know, and throw in general So's chicken all over

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01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 1: the place and everything. It would have been better than

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01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 1: this movie that they spend a hundred million dollars on

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01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 1: or something. I mean, more than Hunter. I don't even

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01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:15,640
Speaker 1: know what the budget is. It's tough to know a

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01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:18,799
Speaker 1: Hollywood budget because a lot of it is the marketing.

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01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 1: This is what I've I've found out. So whatever they

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01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 1: tell you the budget is, that was just the production budget.

1524
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 1: The marketing budget can be It can be enormous but

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01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 1: this movie The Great Wall, The Great Wall has Matt

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01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 1: Damon in it, whom I think it's a I take

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01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 1: it as encouraging that you can have somebody like Matt Damon, who,

1528
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:42,879
Speaker 1: in my opinion, is so uh deeply lacking in talent,

1529
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 1: and yet is uh is still lacking in talent, and

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01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:50,120
Speaker 1: yet has made a lot of money and become a

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01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 1: very famous movie star. So I think that's a good thing. Right.

1532
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:54,800
Speaker 1: You can either look at that with envy or you

1533
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 1: can look at that as encouragement. And you know, I'm

1534
01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:00,839
Speaker 1: the guy who's walking down the street who who sees

1535
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 1: a well. Now, of course I only have eyes for

1536
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:06,800
Speaker 1: Ms Molly, But you know, back in the day, if

1537
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 1: I saw a guy who was you know, a little uh,

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01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:12,680
Speaker 1: a little cuddly around the middle and uh maybe a

1539
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 1: little on the on the shorter side, and you know,

1540
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:20,760
Speaker 1: it's just not exactly cover of Abercromie material, but with

1541
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 1: a a stunning, stunningly beautiful woman, I think to myself,

1542
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 1: you know, maybe he's got a great personality, and good

1543
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 1: for him. You know, this means that it's possible for

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01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:30,680
Speaker 1: all of us, right, this, this means I've got a

1545
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 1: shot too, and as I'm dating Miss Molly, I'm I'm

1546
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:36,280
Speaker 1: quite happy with with how life has worked out. But

1547
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 1: you know, I like to see the success of others

1548
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 1: as encouragement to further success. I don't like to see

1549
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 1: it as as sour grapes or bitterness or any of

1550
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:47,120
Speaker 1: that other stuff. So with Hollywood, I mean, yeah, there's

1551
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:50,520
Speaker 1: a part of me that's like, Matt Damon is wildly overrated,

1552
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 1: and how can this guy? Why is he so lucky?

1553
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:55,280
Speaker 1: And then there's a part of me that's like, you

1554
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:57,479
Speaker 1: know what, I try to push that aside in my

1555
01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 1: thinking and just go right to, hey, if Matt Damon

1556
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 1: can play a A A C I A superspy in

1557
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 1: the movies and people actually buy that, and he can

1558
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 1: be this millionaire and everything, it's encouragement for the rest

1559
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:14,680
Speaker 1: of us because it means that, hey, we all can

1560
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 1: be superstars, everybody if Matt Damon can Weekend too. But

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01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:21,280
Speaker 1: in this movie, which I only made it through twenty

1562
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:24,800
Speaker 1: minutes of it, was it was one of the worst

1563
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 1: movies I've ever seen. I'm not gonna lie. It's hard

1564
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 1: to imagine a movie being worse there for for no reason,

1565
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:34,840
Speaker 1: And maybe they explain it later there are weird like

1566
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 1: lizard monsters the actual Great Wall, which it is supposed

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01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:41,040
Speaker 1: to be like the Great Wall of China, there are

1568
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 1: weird lizard monsters that are trying to buy the you know,

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01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 1: by the hundreds of thousands or something, run up this

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01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:52,439
Speaker 1: wall and and eat people who are dressed like they're

1571
01:31:52,439 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 1: in a Power Rangers movie. I mean, it's it's so

1572
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:59,599
Speaker 1: bad that it makes me wonder, how is anybody, how

1573
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:01,759
Speaker 1: is any be able to turn in this assignment, turning

1574
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 1: this project at the end and think like, yeah, I'm

1575
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:07,720
Speaker 1: proud of this one. This makes sense. We did we

1576
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 1: did a great job here. I'm not trying to be

1577
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:12,519
Speaker 1: a hater. I'm just trying to understand. I've had a

1578
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 1: few of these instances because I've been doing a lot

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01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:16,960
Speaker 1: of travel recently and some of the big, big budget

1580
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 1: movies that are out there. I just don't understand how

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01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:23,320
Speaker 1: it's possible to spend so much money and have such

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01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 1: a bad final product. You know, I think the movie

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01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:28,439
Speaker 1: industry is isn't a lot of trouble. I know that

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01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 1: right now they are relying on and as I did

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01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:34,360
Speaker 1: with the Gray Wall movie, they rely on foeign ticket sales,

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01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 1: which is why there's so much in the way of

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01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 1: special effects and c g I computer generator imagery, which

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01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 1: I think is is the worst thing to happen in

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01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:46,920
Speaker 1: movies in a long time, because, yeah, they can be great.

1590
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:48,320
Speaker 1: In The Lord of the Rings, there are movies that

1591
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:50,760
Speaker 1: do a really good job with it, but it also

1592
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:54,680
Speaker 1: just becomes a crutch for storytelling and just you know,

1593
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 1: more c g I explosions that'll get people in the seats,

1594
01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 1: but you're gonna have con hent that's made in other countries.

1595
01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:04,559
Speaker 1: That's right, it's not We're not gonna have this Hollywood

1596
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 1: advantage forever where big budget movies are made in in

1597
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 1: these production studios in this country. It's already been happening

1598
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:14,280
Speaker 1: for a long time. But places like China and and

1599
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 1: other major countries are just gonna start building bigger and bigger.

1600
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:21,559
Speaker 1: I know they have indigenous movie production already, but they're

1601
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:24,640
Speaker 1: gonna be building bigger and bigger facilities and studios and

1602
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 1: and and then we're gonna turn around, and maybe that

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01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 1: would be a good thing because it will force American

1604
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:31,360
Speaker 1: storytelling to just be that again, to be telling stories

1605
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:35,360
Speaker 1: instead of be glorified video games. They're trying to sell

1606
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 1: in the international market. But that's the best way that

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01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 1: I could describe the Great Wall movie. I mean, it

1608
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:44,960
Speaker 1: was so bad. And I also watched the King Kong

1609
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:47,560
Speaker 1: movie on a plane. I had no choice. I was

1610
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 1: just looking I need to watch something, and had a

1611
01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:51,559
Speaker 1: long week, a lot of work, only so much reading

1612
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 1: I can do on a plane. Before I'm like, all

1613
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:56,080
Speaker 1: I do is read, and uh, you know, all I

1614
01:33:56,200 --> 01:34:00,080
Speaker 1: do is read, read, read um And if any of

1615
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:02,800
Speaker 1: you caught that horrible music reference, by the way, I

1616
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:05,760
Speaker 1: would be very impressed. But anyway, I was watching the

1617
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:09,920
Speaker 1: Kong movie on um. I forget what Kong skull island

1618
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:12,439
Speaker 1: or something, and it was just an abomination. I mean,

1619
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:15,000
Speaker 1: it was like it was like a form of torture

1620
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:17,439
Speaker 1: to be stuck in that seat. I probably should have

1621
01:34:17,479 --> 01:34:19,200
Speaker 1: just looked at the seat back in front of me instead.

1622
01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:21,479
Speaker 1: So anyway, the Great Wall, I thought it maybe was

1623
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:23,400
Speaker 1: the worst movie ever. I gave it twenty minutes and

1624
01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 1: I bet it is the worst movie ever, or at

1625
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:27,760
Speaker 1: least that's my story and I'm sticking to it. Will

1626
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:29,759
Speaker 1: be back with more here in just a moment, including

1627
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:33,040
Speaker 1: a discussion of hunting big game. I don't want to

1628
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:36,360
Speaker 1: hear that you're right back. Welcome back team. So you know,

1629
01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:41,360
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of discussion recently about this whole

1630
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:46,000
Speaker 1: situation with well with Zimbabwe, in terms of one of

1631
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 1: the worst and longest serving tyrants in the whole world

1632
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 1: is in fact on the way out, it seems right now,

1633
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 1: which which is a very good thing and one that

1634
01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:58,479
Speaker 1: we should all be although not really entirely clear what's

1635
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 1: going to happen there. Then you have a corollary issue

1636
01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 1: to this, and it has to do with Trump and

1637
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:14,960
Speaker 1: the administration's position on elephant trophies. Now, I here's here's

1638
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:18,320
Speaker 1: what Reuter's reports on this as of a few just

1639
01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:22,200
Speaker 1: a few hours ago, that conservation groups quote sued the

1640
01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 1: US government on Monday over President Donald Trump's decision to

1641
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:29,480
Speaker 1: let hunters bring in lion and elephant trophies from Zimbabwe,

1642
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:33,719
Speaker 1: days after Trump said the move had been put on hold.

1643
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:37,960
Speaker 1: This got a lot of people really fired up. Now,

1644
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 1: the administration's position on this is that they want to

1645
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:44,920
Speaker 1: wait and see and get some more information and more data.

1646
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:49,559
Speaker 1: But if you recall the Cecil or I don't know

1647
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:52,560
Speaker 1: if it's Cecil, if it's more British, is it Cecil

1648
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:57,400
Speaker 1: the Lion or Cecil the Lion. There was a tremendous

1649
01:35:57,400 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 1: outcry when Cecil was shot, and people were Jimmy Kimmel, Oh, yeah,

1650
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:09,960
Speaker 1: that's right, America's conscience. Sometimes Jimmy Kimmel America's conscience when

1651
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:13,840
Speaker 1: he's pushing for liberal causes. And he cried about the

1652
01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:18,160
Speaker 1: lion being shot. And there was that dentist who shot

1653
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:21,240
Speaker 1: him and was it a was it a legal shoot

1654
01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:23,400
Speaker 1: or not? And there was all this back and forth

1655
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 1: over it, and it was a global news story, which

1656
01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:30,799
Speaker 1: was pretty amazing considering that lions, especially when they become

1657
01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:34,599
Speaker 1: uh nuisance lions, when they eat somebody in certain parts

1658
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:37,840
Speaker 1: of the world, they get shot, and nobody who's in

1659
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:41,800
Speaker 1: the path of the possible predation of the lion gets

1660
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:44,080
Speaker 1: all that upset about it. Right. There was a very

1661
01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 1: interesting right around the time of the whole Cecil the

1662
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:51,559
Speaker 1: Lion fiasco, there was a piece written in the New

1663
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:53,840
Speaker 1: York Times. I'll give them credit for publishing it from

1664
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 1: somebody I can't remember he was from. He was from

1665
01:36:57,200 --> 01:37:00,800
Speaker 1: Southern Africa, camera which country exactly, I want to say Botswana,

1666
01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 1: but I can't recall off the top of my head.

1667
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:05,240
Speaker 1: But He was saying that, you know, when he was

1668
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:08,120
Speaker 1: growing up, there are plenty of alliance and the lion

1669
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 1: was was a problem. A line was an issue, right,

1670
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:13,320
Speaker 1: I mean the same way that some people think of

1671
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:16,639
Speaker 1: I as I understand it. You know polar bears up

1672
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 1: in Alaska. Yeah, it's all cute when they're in the zoo,

1673
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:22,080
Speaker 1: but if they're in your backyard all of a sudden,

1674
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:25,599
Speaker 1: going through your trash, it's an issue. So this guy

1675
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:27,640
Speaker 1: wrote about how lions we we shouldn't think of them

1676
01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:29,920
Speaker 1: as like Simba from The Lion King. They actually can

1677
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:33,559
Speaker 1: be dangerous and that some limited hunting makes sense in

1678
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:37,639
Speaker 1: different capacities. So I have it. I have a tough

1679
01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:39,800
Speaker 1: time with with this one because I can very much

1680
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:43,960
Speaker 1: see both sides of the big game hunting issue. That's

1681
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:46,840
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to get into here as a discussion,

1682
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:48,360
Speaker 1: and I'm really gonna want to hear from a lot

1683
01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:50,599
Speaker 1: of you on it, because I'm sure there are many

1684
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:54,280
Speaker 1: people listening to the show right now who are, in fact,

1685
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 1: or have been big game hunters in the past. I

1686
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:01,280
Speaker 1: grew up in a family where there were hunting. I

1687
01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:03,600
Speaker 1: grew up in a family where going out into a

1688
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:06,519
Speaker 1: deer stand with my dad with a jacket that was

1689
01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:11,320
Speaker 1: three or four sizes too big, quite cold. If I

1690
01:38:11,479 --> 01:38:14,160
Speaker 1: always remember the way that it went quite cold and

1691
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:17,880
Speaker 1: very early, and I may have, I may have complained

1692
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:20,919
Speaker 1: a little bit about this. I'm not going to withhold

1693
01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:23,200
Speaker 1: that bit of truth I was. I want to sleep.

1694
01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:26,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to go to the pheasant stand or

1695
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:28,760
Speaker 1: the deer stand or the pheasant blind or whatever it was.

1696
01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:31,479
Speaker 1: And my dad would take me because you know, father

1697
01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 1: soun time and my older brother and we would get

1698
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:40,439
Speaker 1: drawn into the experience of hunting at least. But so

1699
01:38:40,520 --> 01:38:44,240
Speaker 1: I I've been around it, understand it, and even when

1700
01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:48,720
Speaker 1: bird hunting myself but a few weeks ago, so I

1701
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:52,680
Speaker 1: totally understand this. But I will say that, you know,

1702
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:55,880
Speaker 1: for example, with deer, with birds, you're talking about very

1703
01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:59,600
Speaker 1: healthy populations. And now I sound kind of like that

1704
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:03,720
Speaker 1: guy Sack from wedding Crashers. They're decimating the grub war

1705
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:07,519
Speaker 1: grub warm population this area, you know, And then Vince

1706
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:10,920
Speaker 1: Vaughan's like, oh, yeah, I'm stoked, let's go kill some birds. Uh.

1707
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 1: Those of you who watch wedding or have seen wedding

1708
01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:16,839
Speaker 1: crashers know what I'm talking about that guy Sack is uh,

1709
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:19,680
Speaker 1: that was before he became He's the guy who ended

1710
01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 1: up playing American sniper Tyrone. What's his name? The guy

1711
01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 1: the actor Bradley Cooper. Bradley Cooper, Um, that was the

1712
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:30,880
Speaker 1: guy who was playing that role. Anyway, I so I

1713
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:33,479
Speaker 1: understand and and with deer, for example, we all know

1714
01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:36,040
Speaker 1: that deer can can get overpopulated in an area. They

1715
01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:40,320
Speaker 1: can actually starve and spread disease because of the overpopulation.

1716
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:45,479
Speaker 1: And in the District of Columbia, I have had to

1717
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:48,200
Speaker 1: explain to friends of mine. I'm down in d C today,

1718
01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:52,280
Speaker 1: actually I'm visiting and doing some business down here. But

1719
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:55,479
Speaker 1: in the District of Columbia, the deer population in Rock

1720
01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:59,960
Speaker 1: Creek Park was so it was so excessive. So had

1721
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:03,639
Speaker 1: the overpopulated by so much that they've had to bring

1722
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:10,959
Speaker 1: in contract hunters to call the deer population too actually

1723
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:15,559
Speaker 1: take some of their numbers down, and they give the

1724
01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:20,280
Speaker 1: meat the venison two soup kitchens in d C. So

1725
01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:24,479
Speaker 1: it's it's a win win for everybody, and it's a

1726
01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:26,640
Speaker 1: win for the dear population overall. It's a win for

1727
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:31,559
Speaker 1: the those who are in need of some sustenance in

1728
01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:34,120
Speaker 1: the d c area. But some of the liberals that

1729
01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:36,800
Speaker 1: I know in DC like, oh my gosh, well, first

1730
01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:38,960
Speaker 1: they never believe me, and I say, google it, you'll

1731
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:41,760
Speaker 1: see it. That is that is false. There will never

1732
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:45,280
Speaker 1: be hunting in Rock Craig Park. Oh yeah, oh yeah,

1733
01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:47,639
Speaker 1: there they'll take They'll take some deer because there's too

1734
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:50,320
Speaker 1: many of them. So I completely understand that. And as

1735
01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:53,720
Speaker 1: an avid meat eater who is probably eating me three

1736
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:57,560
Speaker 1: times a day, which is I'm sure not necessarily ideal,

1737
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:01,240
Speaker 1: but I think it's ideal. As an avid meat eater,

1738
01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:05,160
Speaker 1: I can't for a moment pass judgment on anybody that

1739
01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:08,080
Speaker 1: engages in hunting for food, right because I I eat me,

1740
01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 1: So the the ethical aspect of it begins to begins

1741
01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:15,800
Speaker 1: to be a little more of a of a gray

1742
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 1: or not even a gray are I'm I'm all in

1743
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 1: favor of hunting for food. I'm gonna get into what's

1744
01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:22,679
Speaker 1: more of a gray air for me in a second.

1745
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 1: So I understand the impulse to hunt, I understand the need.

1746
01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:32,320
Speaker 1: I respect ethical hunters, and and you know it's I

1747
01:41:32,360 --> 01:41:35,040
Speaker 1: totally get it right. So that's all. But then I

1748
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:38,800
Speaker 1: go into big game hunting, and I will just tell

1749
01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:44,280
Speaker 1: you I do not understand. I just don't understand. I'm

1750
01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:47,599
Speaker 1: trying not to pass judgment on it because I haven't

1751
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 1: done it. I have done other kinds of hunting. But

1752
01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:52,200
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's thinking that, you know that the

1753
01:41:52,240 --> 01:41:55,760
Speaker 1: couple of pheasants that I've shot here and there, that

1754
01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:58,240
Speaker 1: we're like losing the pheasant population, right, I mean, nobody

1755
01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:00,760
Speaker 1: thinks that this is going to be the end of it. Uh.

1756
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:04,320
Speaker 1: But with elephants, I don't understand the appeal. I don't

1757
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:07,519
Speaker 1: understand why somebody would want to shoot an elephant. I

1758
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 1: think that there there is a uh a connection that

1759
01:42:13,160 --> 01:42:17,240
Speaker 1: we have to certain majestic mammals. I'll be honestly, lizards,

1760
01:42:17,280 --> 01:42:21,240
Speaker 1: cold blooded animals. I just don't care fish, birds, whatever, right,

1761
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:23,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't. I think you should be responsible

1762
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:25,479
Speaker 1: in how you either you know and how you are

1763
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:27,880
Speaker 1: interacting with the environment. And I think that animal cruelty

1764
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 1: under any circumstances is wrong. But you know, you're gonna

1765
01:42:32,040 --> 01:42:33,519
Speaker 1: eat a bunch of fish, You're gonna catch a bunch

1766
01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:35,120
Speaker 1: of fish, You're gonna kill a bunch of birds. You're

1767
01:42:35,120 --> 01:42:37,880
Speaker 1: gonna eat a bunch of birds. Great. I do think

1768
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:39,920
Speaker 1: that it gets a little more complicated for some of

1769
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:42,920
Speaker 1: us when it starts to be a little bit closer

1770
01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:47,600
Speaker 1: to our warm blooded members of the of the uh

1771
01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:51,559
Speaker 1: you know, animal kingdom that are species that we can

1772
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:57,400
Speaker 1: actually view as being somehow attached to us, are close

1773
01:42:57,479 --> 01:43:00,439
Speaker 1: to us so that we can form bonds with. You know,

1774
01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:03,080
Speaker 1: I can't really explain to you. I'm just being honest

1775
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:04,519
Speaker 1: about it. I can't explain to you why it is

1776
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:09,320
Speaker 1: that I'm I'm fine with deer hunting, but if somebody,

1777
01:43:10,120 --> 01:43:12,960
Speaker 1: if I saw somebody mistreating a dog on the street,

1778
01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:15,040
Speaker 1: even one that I didn't know, there's a pretty good

1779
01:43:15,120 --> 01:43:19,040
Speaker 1: chance that I would get into a an altercation up

1780
01:43:19,040 --> 01:43:22,720
Speaker 1: to and including defending the animal with my you know,

1781
01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:26,400
Speaker 1: with my own uh, putting my own safety at risk.

1782
01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:28,719
Speaker 1: Right if I saw somebody kick a dog, I'd probably

1783
01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:30,400
Speaker 1: start something with a guy, maybe get into a fight.

1784
01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:34,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, maybe this is something that has even happened

1785
01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:36,559
Speaker 1: in the past. I have had words with people because

1786
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:38,160
Speaker 1: of how they have treated dogs that were of no

1787
01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:42,559
Speaker 1: relation or I did not own them. But I have

1788
01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:47,519
Speaker 1: a very tense and terse exchanges with people who were

1789
01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:51,759
Speaker 1: nasty to dogs. So you know, I'm I'm just trying

1790
01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:54,400
Speaker 1: to explore this a little bit because by the same token,

1791
01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:55,519
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I mean, if you want to go

1792
01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:57,720
Speaker 1: out and you know you're gonna go hunt some deer,

1793
01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:00,840
Speaker 1: totally I understand that. Respect go for it. Hope you

1794
01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:04,680
Speaker 1: have some great venisone with elephants, with lions, with some

1795
01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:08,080
Speaker 1: of these more majestic creatures. It just feels like there's

1796
01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:12,519
Speaker 1: some Ah, there's some part of me that's not that

1797
01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:17,400
Speaker 1: that can't understand why someone would want to for sport,

1798
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:20,599
Speaker 1: not for food. Remind that there's so there's no food

1799
01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:24,200
Speaker 1: aspect to it. I can't understand why somebody wants also

1800
01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 1: an elephant once you know, you know where they are,

1801
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:28,960
Speaker 1: you know where the herd is, so you're just gonna

1802
01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:32,679
Speaker 1: line up a large boar rifle and you're gonna shoot it.

1803
01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:35,200
Speaker 1: It's not gonna it's not going anywhere, right, So I

1804
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:39,600
Speaker 1: don't understand it at all. I just so here I

1805
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:42,880
Speaker 1: am thinking about how I'm somebody who supports hunting and

1806
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:46,760
Speaker 1: fishing rights and has done both hunting and fishing himself,

1807
01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:49,479
Speaker 1: But I do have my limits, and I think that

1808
01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:53,080
Speaker 1: elephant hunting is is outside of what I'd be okay with.

1809
01:44:54,479 --> 01:44:57,160
Speaker 1: I know I break with some people on this, and

1810
01:44:57,240 --> 01:45:01,840
Speaker 1: I know conservatives are overwhelm manly not just like I said,

1811
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:05,160
Speaker 1: I'm I'm pro hunting, but within limits. I think that

1812
01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:09,519
Speaker 1: there is at least some contingent of I don't know,

1813
01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:12,960
Speaker 1: some contingent of folks in the country who just will

1814
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:15,879
Speaker 1: make the argument. And I understand this argument that they'll

1815
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:20,320
Speaker 1: pay a lot of money for a hunting license. Remember

1816
01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:22,080
Speaker 1: this is all I'm not talking about. I'm not talking

1817
01:45:22,120 --> 01:45:24,400
Speaker 1: about poaching or any of that. I'm talking about ethical

1818
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 1: legal hunting. That there there are arguments that have been

1819
01:45:29,280 --> 01:45:32,200
Speaker 1: made and there's evidence to back it up that when

1820
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:37,479
Speaker 1: you allow elephant hunting, lion hunting, certain I believe certain

1821
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:41,280
Speaker 1: species are certain types of rhinoceros, not species, but certain

1822
01:45:42,080 --> 01:45:44,120
Speaker 1: members of the rhinoceros family. I think you can also

1823
01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:47,080
Speaker 1: hunt with a license in some places because the license

1824
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:49,840
Speaker 1: is so expensive, it pays for the conservation for the

1825
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:54,000
Speaker 1: rest of the herd. They pick an older animal that

1826
01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:56,839
Speaker 1: doesn't have that much time, probably left anyway, has already

1827
01:45:56,840 --> 01:46:01,080
Speaker 1: sired offspring, and so I get at it. I I

1828
01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:05,519
Speaker 1: understand the arguments. I understand, but I I still stumble

1829
01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:07,519
Speaker 1: on a little bit because when I say I get it.

1830
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:11,200
Speaker 1: I know the arguments, but I can't bring myself or

1831
01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'm unable to comprehend why somebody would want to

1832
01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:17,840
Speaker 1: shoot an elephant. That's all. So we will see. Clearly,

1833
01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:22,519
Speaker 1: the Trump administration also has its own its own feelings

1834
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:24,519
Speaker 1: about this because they kind of backed off. Originally it

1835
01:46:24,520 --> 01:46:27,879
Speaker 1: was gonna be elephant trophies would be allowed, and then

1836
01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:33,320
Speaker 1: now they're saying no elephant trophies. Maybe it depends, Um,

1837
01:46:33,439 --> 01:46:37,479
Speaker 1: we will we will see. The administration was gonna let

1838
01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:42,800
Speaker 1: people bring back trophies and you know, so you can

1839
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:45,479
Speaker 1: still hunt them, but you just can't bring the trophy.

1840
01:46:45,479 --> 01:46:47,000
Speaker 1: And the point about that as well, if you can't

1841
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:51,160
Speaker 1: bring a trophy, you're really gonna pay for the hunting. Apparently.

1842
01:46:51,400 --> 01:46:54,360
Speaker 1: Reuter says here that Africa's elephant population plunged by about

1843
01:46:54,360 --> 01:46:58,160
Speaker 1: a fifth between two thousand and five and because of

1844
01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:03,880
Speaker 1: increased poaching, so that's a different thing than legal hunting. Um.

1845
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:07,879
Speaker 1: But wildlife activists here say that the corruption is endemic

1846
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:10,760
Speaker 1: and impover Zimbabwe, and that money generated by big game

1847
01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:14,120
Speaker 1: hunting and men for conference conservation has been diverted to crooks.

1848
01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:17,160
Speaker 1: So the argument about pay a lot of money to Zimbabwe,

1849
01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:19,679
Speaker 1: it will help the rest of the elephant population when

1850
01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:22,160
Speaker 1: you take one of them through legal hunting. I'm not

1851
01:47:22,200 --> 01:47:25,840
Speaker 1: sure that really works in Zimbabwe, so it's case by

1852
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:28,240
Speaker 1: case anyway that those are I'm really curious what all

1853
01:47:28,240 --> 01:47:29,840
Speaker 1: of you think about this. If it's something you feel

1854
01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:33,360
Speaker 1: passionately about, please let me know. Team Buck our official

1855
01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:37,400
Speaker 1: Team Buck at gmail dot com, and also you can

1856
01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:39,960
Speaker 1: send me a message on Facebook dot com slash Buck Sexton.

1857
01:47:40,040 --> 01:47:43,080
Speaker 1: But I I don't know. I like animals, that's what

1858
01:47:43,120 --> 01:47:46,240
Speaker 1: I just like animals, So I don't I don't want

1859
01:47:47,120 --> 01:47:48,960
Speaker 1: see I've I've seen the Lion King too many times.

1860
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:51,479
Speaker 1: I don't want to shoot lines. I don't want I look.

1861
01:47:51,640 --> 01:47:53,439
Speaker 1: I have friends who go bear hunting, and I'm like,

1862
01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:56,400
Speaker 1: I love bears. I'm not doing any bear hunting. It's

1863
01:47:56,439 --> 01:47:59,519
Speaker 1: just how. It's just how I am keeping it real.

1864
01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:02,600
Speaker 1: Whatever you think. Facebook dot com slash Buck sex and

1865
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:04,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna close that out on the other side of

1866
01:48:04,120 --> 01:48:07,320
Speaker 1: some Team Buck speaks, stay with me, welcome back. It

1867
01:48:07,439 --> 01:48:10,200
Speaker 1: is that time of the show where we hear from you,

1868
01:48:10,439 --> 01:48:14,360
Speaker 1: not necessarily on the phone lines, which I was enjoyed

1869
01:48:14,360 --> 01:48:18,559
Speaker 1: as well, but via Team buck Speaks. So let's get

1870
01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:19,960
Speaker 1: into it. And if you want to join in this

1871
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:24,000
Speaker 1: fun by all means, uh, send it to Facebook dot

1872
01:48:24,040 --> 01:48:26,240
Speaker 1: com slash buck sex and I hope you'll follow me there.

1873
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:28,200
Speaker 1: So here's where we get coming in from t J.

1874
01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:32,839
Speaker 1: He sent me a gift that says the carpet sharks

1875
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:35,519
Speaker 1: are on the hunt. It is two docks ins in

1876
01:48:35,960 --> 01:48:39,639
Speaker 1: hunting gear. So thank you for that. And I will

1877
01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:42,240
Speaker 1: say that now even got I I pointed one out

1878
01:48:42,280 --> 01:48:44,360
Speaker 1: to Molly, there's a there's Yeah, there's a carpet shark

1879
01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:46,880
Speaker 1: in my building. I saw him. I know he's I

1880
01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:49,200
Speaker 1: know he's around. I know he's lurking, just waiting for

1881
01:48:49,240 --> 01:48:51,479
Speaker 1: me to try to pick him up and show him

1882
01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:53,040
Speaker 1: some love so we can try to bite my nose

1883
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:57,360
Speaker 1: off again. Carpet shark. But I said to Molly, there's

1884
01:48:57,360 --> 01:48:59,600
Speaker 1: a carpet shark. She said, what, oh docks And I

1885
01:48:59,640 --> 01:49:03,760
Speaker 1: was like, up it is indeed. Um, let's get to

1886
01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:07,479
Speaker 1: the next one here, uh, Mark writes in, well, the

1887
01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:11,360
Speaker 1: fake news is full tilp this weekend and week help

1888
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:15,640
Speaker 1: us navigate the constant nonsense. Well, Mark, I hope I've

1889
01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:17,479
Speaker 1: been doing that on the show today, and I thank

1890
01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:22,960
Speaker 1: you very much. For writing in appreciate it, Francis writes

1891
01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:26,479
Speaker 1: in Falling Love listening to your podcasts on my Heart Radio.

1892
01:49:26,680 --> 01:49:29,200
Speaker 1: Thanks you make the drive into work a lot more

1893
01:49:29,240 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 1: interesting at five thirty in the morning. Well, Francis, I

1894
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:34,880
Speaker 1: am honored that I get to keep you company and

1895
01:49:34,960 --> 01:49:38,680
Speaker 1: hang out. So uh, please keep downloading the show and

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Speaker 1: send me your thoughts again any time you like on Facebook,

1897
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Speaker 1: and also pass it around to a friend. Let's let's

1898
01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:47,760
Speaker 1: let the folks know about Team Buck. So we have

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Speaker 1: Tyson writing in Okay, So just to give you a

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Speaker 1: little Baxter here, Tyson wrote the following Buck love your show,

1901
01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:55,320
Speaker 1: keep up the good work and fight for freedom. Will

1902
01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:57,800
Speaker 1: be traveling to New York City soon for surgery for

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01:49:58,040 --> 01:50:00,320
Speaker 1: my son with the best surgeon of the world for

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01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:03,840
Speaker 1: this type of surgery. God bless America. My question to

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Speaker 1: you is what is the best pizza in New York?

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Speaker 1: It might help my wife while she is in well

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Speaker 1: she's concerned over the surgery. Thank you and shields high

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01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:15,719
Speaker 1: from Tyson. Well, I wrote back to Tyson. First off,

1909
01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:17,920
Speaker 1: thank you for your support of my show means a lot.

1910
01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:20,559
Speaker 1: I think the best pizza in New York is Keste

1911
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Speaker 1: or John's of Bleaker Street. The best burger is J. G. Mellen's.

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Speaker 1: The best barbecue is Mighty Quinns, but that is debatable.

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Speaker 1: Good luck with the surgery, and God blessed. That was

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Speaker 1: what I told Tyson, and he got back to me

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Speaker 1: just this weekend. Buck, we visit Manhattan for surgery for

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Speaker 1: my son. Thanks for the pizza tips. Good news. The

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Speaker 1: surgery went well, and the pizza is good everywhere of

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Speaker 1: New York, although I don't know how anyone can live

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Speaker 1: there even though the food is good. I prefer Nebraska,

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Speaker 1: where my neighbors are a mile away Shields High. Tyson, Well, Tyson,

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Speaker 1: so happy to hear the surgery went well with your son.

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Speaker 1: God bless and yes, it is in fact true that

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01:50:58,080 --> 01:51:01,519
Speaker 1: in New York getting good pizza is kind of like

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Speaker 1: the equivalent of being in Greece and asking for a

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Speaker 1: good gyro or hero if you want to say it

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Speaker 1: in the Greek way, or if you're in France and

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Speaker 1: you want a good croissant, or you're in you know,

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Speaker 1: Texas and you want good barbecue. It's just everywhere. It's

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Speaker 1: I mean, good pizza. New York is all over the place,

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Speaker 1: and most importantly so glad to hear that your son

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Speaker 1: is good to go. Surgery went well, and I'm glad

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Speaker 1: you enjoyed the pizza. Yeah. And for those for those

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Speaker 1: of you listening, if you're ever coming to New York,

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Speaker 1: you can send me. People are so funny, They're like, hey,

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Speaker 1: if I right here, can you give me a suggestion

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Speaker 1: for you know my uh, I'm having an anniversary dinner

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Speaker 1: with my wife of you know, fifteen years. We're in

1938
01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:39,640
Speaker 1: New York and we love your show. Where's the best

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Speaker 1: place to have dinner? If I see the message and

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Speaker 1: I have a moment, I'll answer, I'll give you. I

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Speaker 1: love giving people tips about New York City. Now, I'm

1942
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Speaker 1: gonna get probably a lot of request, but you know

1943
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Speaker 1: when I can. When I can, maybe you know what,

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Speaker 1: I'll post some of my favorite stuff here for all

1945
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Speaker 1: of you to check out. UM. So that way, well,

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Speaker 1: I'll put it out in the open where my favorite

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Speaker 1: spots are in NYC. And that's one way to go. Um.

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Speaker 1: Nathan writes in UH Buck, I've been listening to UH.

1949
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Speaker 1: I've listening you for a couple of years. I loved

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Speaker 1: hearing Tyrone segment tonight. Honestly, I prefer the shows with

1951
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Speaker 1: the least amount of callers. Um, my guess is that

1952
01:52:14,200 --> 01:52:16,160
Speaker 1: you need to take calls sometimes, but it would be

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Speaker 1: nice if that wasn't the case. Oh well, I'm not

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Speaker 1: going anywhere. Great show and I'm a strong part of

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Speaker 1: team buck Well, Nathan, I'm just glad that you like

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Speaker 1: the show, you enjoy it, and uh honor to have

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Speaker 1: you as part of the team. Without my friends, I'm

1958
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Speaker 1: gonna be heading to the train to try to make

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Speaker 1: my way back to New York City. It's you are

1960
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Speaker 1: Freedom Hunt headquarters tomorrow, so please do download the show

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Speaker 1: and until tomorrow night from NYC Shields High