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Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang on today's show, Paul calvc joins me,

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Speaker 1: of course, we won't really know the answer to that

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Speaker 1: be better, right. Also, it is a mock draft Monday

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Speaker 1: at Cardinals Cover two, episode eight sixty three, and it

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 3: Bud to Baker, what Heart?

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Speaker 1: What rent?

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Speaker 3: This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again,

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Speaker 3: some more hurry magic.

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Speaker 2: Whoa, here's Craigcrioler.

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Speaker 1: So a question for you, Paul, and no, I'm not

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Speaker 1: it's much like fantasy.

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Speaker 3: Football, no one cares a much bracket. That's true my

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Speaker 3: golf game, you know the bracket, there's certain things nobody

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Speaker 3: cares about. And by the way, in the future, based

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, there's the question, do you know what happens

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Speaker 3: One month?

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Speaker 1: And because I know you're so good with dates, let

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Speaker 1: me just let you know this. So we speak here.

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Speaker 1: It is Monday, March twenty fourth.

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Speaker 3: See, I take it one podcast at a time, that

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Speaker 3: But I would surmise that a month from today is

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Speaker 1: One of the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, It will

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Speaker 1: be here before you know it. And yes, I think

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Speaker 1: Got a couple of new mock drafts with two new

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Speaker 1: But you know what, it also is this time of year,

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Speaker 1: it is the start of list season. Everyone has a list.

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Speaker 1: One of the first lists I saw NFL dot Com

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Speaker 1: so far. The Cardinals did not make the lists. Really

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Speaker 1: I would think, Paul, based off the amounts of money

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Speaker 3: Five Yeah, that's truly a no comprendo. There's no I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't think overpaid for Josh Sweat or for Dalvin Tomlinson.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise it's the known versus the unknown, and why the

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Speaker 1: But you can find quality defensive line play in the

432
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 1: second and third round yeap.

433
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 3: For that reason, if the Cardinals went d tackle in

434
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 3: round one, if they went corner in round one, if

435
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 3: they went offensive guard in round one, and then any

436
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 3: of those three positions in round two, leaving D line

437
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 3: to round three, I would not be shocked. I think

438
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,199
Speaker 3: it's that deep, and the Cardinals are that confident in

439
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 3: the war room and their scouts that they can probably

440
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 3: find a dude who would come in, you know, and

441
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,719
Speaker 3: have a nice career in the NFL at that position.

442
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 3: Considering how deep this is at de tackle.

443
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: Right now, they've got six solid defensive linemen that you

444
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: could have a rotation. Now do you add a seventh

445
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: in there? Do you carry seven defensive linemen? Typically we've

446
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 1: seen this team use a three man fronts. But does

447
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,239
Speaker 1: that change because the talent has been upgraded and all

448
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: of a sudden, maybe you see a little bit more

449
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 1: guys with their hand in the dirts up near the

450
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. Maybe maybe rawless does change things a

451
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: little bit. Being adaptable something Jonathan Ginnon loves to say,

452
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: whether you're on offense or defense. What's it gonna take

453
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 1: for us to win that particular week? Do we need

454
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 1: four down linemen? Do we need three? How many times

455
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: last season late when they needed to have a pass rush,

456
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 1: there was one or two defensive linemen with their hand

457
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 1: in the dirt because they had to figure out they

458
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: had a manufacture. They had to scheme up pressure. But

459
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 1: going back to what you said about the Philadelphia Eagles

460
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: just rushing four.

461
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 3: Okay, well what four?

462
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 1: And then how many different ways can you rush for

463
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 1: and make it not look like it's four. Maybe it

464
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 1: looks like it's five or six, but guys are peeling

465
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: back and all of a sudden the quarterback is confused.

466
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 3: It was later in the year and it was Zaving

467
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 3: Collins in the Big Red Rage told us just how

468
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 3: often he been sucked inside to a five technique or

469
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 3: three technique on an obvious passing down at six, five,

470
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 3: two seventy, And they would, you know, Nick Rawls would

471
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 3: be very creative with Xaving Collins, big dude who can run,

472
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 3: because we also see him in deep coverage at times.

473
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 3: And then I started watching the last month of the

474
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 3: year and like, man, it's even more exotic and creative

475
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 3: than I even realized, because a lot of times that

476
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 3: sort of stuff kind of gets lost in the wash

477
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: and the chaos at the point of attack. So to

478
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 3: your point, once again, okay, do you put six? Do

479
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 3: you put seven on this final roster? We do know this.

480
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon has said more than once he loves to

481
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 3: keep those linemen fresh, and so if they had a

482
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 3: legitimate talent pool who all deserved to have a jersey

483
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 3: on game day, then I think they would. I think

484
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 3: they would find room because I think that's the way

485
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 3: ultimately they want to play, bringing in waves, just like

486
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 3: the Eagles did in Suit Bowl fifty nine.

487
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: I'm curious because we always talk about that rotation, but

488
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: you look at how many snaps Josh Swett played last season,

489
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,239
Speaker 1: Dalvin Tomlinson played last season. They were all on the

490
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: field for sixty percent of the defensive snaps. David Collins

491
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 1: played fifty five percent. He was the highest among outside linebackers.

492
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: There was no defensive aligneman that played more than fifty

493
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 1: percent of the defensive snaps. So, yeah, you want that rotation,

494
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 1: but maybe that rotation is not a series or a quarter.

495
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 1: But DT comes out, but he's right back in there

496
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: after a snap or two. Because again, if you're going

497
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: to invest that much money on Josh what and Dalvin Tomlinson,

498
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: you want them on that football field. You don't want

499
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: them to be cheerleaders on the sideline standing with next

500
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 1: to you, Paul, no offense, but I want to see

501
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: Josh Wett on the football field, not chumming it up

502
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: with you on the sideline.

503
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 3: Well and Swet says he's a three down guy, So okay,

504
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 3: But to your point, if it's third and one, who

505
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 3: do you want in the trenches a young Darius Robinson

506
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 3: or Dalvin Tomlinson. Certain guys are more suited to certain situations.

507
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 3: So if you have the ability to sub, then yeah,

508
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 3: there are certain guys that are going to go in

509
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,239
Speaker 3: based on down and distance, no doubt about it. But

510
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 3: that's why you like to have a variety of body types,

511
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 3: of variety of different guys who you know would be

512
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 3: needed in different situations. So you know that one's interesting.

513
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 3: In terms of other mock drafts that are out there,

514
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 3: what is it? Mel Kiper and the Associated Press put

515
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 3: out their first one, Will Johnson cornerback out of Michigan

516
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 3: going to the Cardinals. I know mel Kiper was on

517
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 3: with Wolf on his radio show in Arizona Sports and

518
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 3: he said, Will Johnson is quote a pick six waiting

519
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 3: to happen. Six to two plus really runs. I mean,

520
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 3: when you read this Scout report, the name that keeps

521
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 3: jumping into my head Jalen Ramsey, big dude, ridiculously athletic,

522
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 3: crazy ball skills, aggressive, So I didn't give it much

523
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 3: consideration when this whole process started. But if will Johnson,

524
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 3: who dealt with injury and sort of had a muted

525
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 3: final year at Michigan, otherwise he'd probably be a top

526
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 3: ten pick if he's there at sixteen, and the Cardinals,

527
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 3: like the Medicals, I could see that happening, especially when

528
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 3: you look at the stinking Rams. Adding Devonte Adams right

529
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 3: another big receiver. We know Pukainakua is a problem. I mean,

530
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 3: you know the Niners, Brandon ayuk Is, he's still in

531
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 3: the trade block, we don't know. And then you know

532
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 3: Jackson Smith and Jigba you know, more of an interior guy,

533
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 3: but he was a headache last year. Obviously, I think

534
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 3: Garrett Williams and Jackson Smith and Jigma are going to

535
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 3: be those guys are going to battle for the next

536
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 3: five years. Mono I mono. But right now in the division,

537
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 3: it's not just about stopping the run, because we know

538
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 3: the Seahawks want to run more than ever and Christian

539
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 3: McCaffrey's going to be back and Kyen Williams. That was

540
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 3: a big improvement by the Cardinals defense this year. But

541
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 3: if they can get that dude who john and again

542
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 3: and Nick Ross can start their game plan every single

543
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 3: week saying, all right, our number one corner is on

544
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 3: your number one receiver, a luxury they have not had

545
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 3: since Patrick Peterson. I could definitely see that happening.

546
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: Good size, Well Johnson six' two one ninety. Four you

547
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 1: brought up the injury. Concerns six games played last season

548
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: because of a toe, injury and this is a position

549
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: that back In, January Matt, MILLER Espn draft expert Mocked

550
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: corner to The cardinals with his first round pick and

551
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: second round, pick and he got. Mocked and we talked

552
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: to him about it When danny AND i were In

553
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: indianapolis at the scouting, combine and he mentioned it was

554
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: looking at the value of those particular players at sixteen

555
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: and forty. Seven now you see mel Kiper junior mockt and,

556
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: okay wait a. Second it's one thing When Matt miller does,

557
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: it another thing when mel Kiper junior does. It but

558
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: what The cardinals have put themselves in position to do

559
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: based off their free agency is draft the best player,

560
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: available and if It's, corner it would be a little

561
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: bit of a surprise it does and fall along the

562
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage that typically we refer to when we're

563
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: talking about. Money how do you want to build this?

564
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: Team how do you want to? Win you want to

565
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: win at the line of. Scrimmage, yet, Well johnson's in intriguing,

566
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: prospects AND i know they've invested a lot at that cornerback,

567
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: position but there's no Guarantee Starling. Toma there's no Guarantee Elijah,

568
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: jones which we haven't seen in a game. Yet he's

569
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: going into his second, season really his first though after an,

570
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: injury yeah, field rookie. Season so what do you really

571
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: have in that cornerback room outside of A Garrett williams

572
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: who's done it now.

573
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 3: Consistently is there?

574
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: Anyone And Sean Murphy bunting wouldn't put him in that

575
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: category because he's more of a veteran that's probably further

576
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: away than guys that you want to build. Around AND

577
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: i THINK i would not have a problem if cornerback

578
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: is the, position because you've set yourself up to take

579
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: whoever you think is that number one guy available when your.

580
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 3: Pick is on the. Clock so you Said Matt miller

581
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,959
Speaker 3: put out that mock In, january, correct he Has if

582
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 3: we're in the trust tree here and we always are.

583
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 3: THERE i Was polly Pencil, neck and we all fashion

584
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 3: ourselves as, gms and we're standing there training camp and

585
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 3: it's a dog days of, camp. RIGHT i remember having

586
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 3: a CONVERSATION i think it was With wolf on the, sideline,

587
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 3: going you know, what take a looking at this roster right,

588
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 3: here right, now without even having played a preseason, GAME

589
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 3: i would surmise The cardinals go cornerback next year round.

590
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 3: One it just seemed to. Be now over the course

591
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 3: of the, Year Starling THOMAS i think definitely improved and

592
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 3: evolved more than we all. ANTICIPATED i had no idea

593
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 3: until late in the year until he's on the Big

594
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 3: Red rage That Starling thomas ran up four to. Eight

595
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 3: it is pro. DAY i did not know. That and

596
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 3: by the, way, anyone if you want a really well

597
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 3: done story In Starling thomas his, backstory just go to

598
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 3: The cardinals YouTube page YouTube dot com Slash Azy cardinals

599
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 3: and it is worth your twelve minutes of viewing. Time

600
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 3: really one to well done feature by The cardinals video.

601
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 3: Crew Emmy award Winning by the, way this one might

602
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 3: be enlightful. One we'll, see very well done. Yep but

603
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 3: in terms of the cornerback. Position, Yeah Elijah jones total

604
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 3: unknown at this, point he's a year, behind unfortunately because

605
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 3: of all the. INJURIES i Thought Max melton played really

606
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 3: well in his last four or five, games but he's

607
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 3: far from a shutdown corner at this. Point and Then

608
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: Sean Murphy bunting is at a. Point you know how

609
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 3: gms like to work a year ahead of tell you

610
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 3: so a year from. Now at this, time as a

611
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,719
Speaker 3: Veteran Sean Murphy bunting and the way his contract is,

612
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 3: constructed it could or would make sense to come off

613
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 3: that contract at the end of this coming, season at which,

614
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 3: point you know. Whatever if you took A Will johnson

615
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 3: or some other cornerback On day one Or day two

616
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 3: of this, draft then, boom it would be a natural

617
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 3: just to slide him into that.

618
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: Position if A Will johnson is comparable to What Patrick

619
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: peterson was capable of, doing and that is takeaway half

620
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: the football, field then all of a, sudden, yeah you

621
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: have to seriously consider that prospect at, Sixteen Garrett, williams

622
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: you keep.

623
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 3: Him in the, slot you move him to.

624
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: Outside you Like Darling, Thomas Max melton on the opposite

625
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: side of A Will johnson And Keith garrett in the

626
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: slot because he's, very very. Good and now all of a,

627
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: sudden you've got you've improved your pass, rush which can

628
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: only help and benefit those guys on the back. End

629
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: so again it's that. Position you're, like wait a, second

630
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: it's all about the liner, scrimmage offensive, line defensive. Line

631
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna give, Us you're gonna mock a, Corner you're

632
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: gonna take a corner at. Sixteen he's a second cornerback

633
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: off the board on mel Kiper junior's three point. Zero

634
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: Travis hunter is the number one corner and he's gonna

635
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: play a little offense or you, Know so all of a,

636
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: sudden the best corner not Named Travis hunter Is Will

637
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: johnson and he's available at. SIXTEEN i, mean that's that's

638
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: that's very tempting when you look at what The cardinals

639
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: have done and what they're projected as far as the

640
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: players that they've already select in the draft a year

641
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: ago at the cornerback. Position, now all of a, sudden

642
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: you've got that rotation in the. Secondary and, oh by the,

643
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: way the head, coach that's his area of. Expertise Cornerback

644
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: Jonathan gannon so nobody puts a higher value in that

645
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: position than the head coach. Himself but speaking of working

646
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: a year, out for, example if you take a corner

647
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: at sixteen and that ends up being the ultimate successor

648
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: To Sean Murphy bunting a year from. NOW i noticed

649
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: in AN nfl Dot com to start the week there's

650
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: a four round mock From Chad. Reader and in this,

651
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: one SOMEONE i have heard about and read ON nfl dot, com.

652
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 3: By the, way as The cardinals taking a corner in

653
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 3: round Four Kobe bryant out Of. Kansas now this is

654
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 3: this is the third different spelling Of Kobe. Bryant. Okay

655
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 3: now The seahawks out Of Kobe, bryant which was spelled

656
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 3: different than The, lakers you, Know, superstar this one is

657
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 3: spelled cob.

658
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: Ee Brian kobi e correct Like seattle.

659
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 3: Ye so, anyway that's neither here nor. There what's intriguing

660
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 3: is that The cardinals in this mock they Do that's

661
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 3: something we brought up about a month or two, ago

662
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 3: and that is, okay if The cardinals are done with

663
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 3: quantity and leading THE nfl two years, ago and rookie

664
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: starts in rookie snaps and then follow that up with

665
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,240
Speaker 3: a twelve player draft, class not even including the undrafted

666
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 3: rookie free agents who have made this team over the

667
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 3: last couple of, years from A Starling thomas To amari

668
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 3: De Mercado Elijah, higgins And i'm probably forgetting one or two.

669
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 3: More this, case he has The cardinals trading up to

670
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 3: thirteen and Taking TEXAS o Lineman Calvin, banks and you're,

671
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 3: like wait a, minute they don't need a. Tackle, well hang,

672
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 3: on he has the ability to play. Inside so there's

673
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 3: your guard that you were thinking about. Taking you, Know

674
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 3: Tyler booker toty. Plummeted by the, way, man if there's

675
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 3: one thing that has happened in the last, month ever

676
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 3: since you were at the, COMBINE i Mean Tyler. Booker

677
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 3: when all these mocks, started he was going tenth overall To.

678
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 3: Chicago he was going thirteenth overall To. Miami there's most

679
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 3: mocks now don't even have him in the first. ROUND

680
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 3: a COUPLE i saw had him fallen all the way

681
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 3: to The lions at twenty. EIGHT i could definitely see.

682
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 3: That and the only thing worse than that is if

683
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 3: he ends up falling all the way To Kansas city

684
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 3: at thirty one and The chiefs get to Replace Joe

685
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: tooney With Tyler booker out Of. Alabama that would be

686
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 3: Vaccine Our chiefs fatigue would only grow exponentially at that. Point,

687
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 3: anyway the point here is At Calvin banks alignment out

688
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 3: Of texas sixty five three point, Fifteen cardinals move up

689
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 3: in this. Mock they would swap their round three For

690
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 3: miami's late round four and they move up three. Spots

691
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 3: and you're talking about a kid who coming out of high,

692
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 3: school top ten prospect. Nationally he was a Freshman All

693
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 3: american and then he was a starter the moment he

694
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 3: stepped on campus all three years including last, year two years,

695
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 3: ago first Team All Big, twelve last, year first Team All.

696
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 3: American and we're talking about the left tackle won The Lombardi,

697
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 3: award won The Outland trophy is the outstanding off defensive

698
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 3: lineman in the. Nation and one skin of REPORT i

699
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 3: looked at On Calvin banks, said arguably his best game

700
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 3: was as a freshman against Will. Anderson let that hang

701
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 3: in the air for a, Minute so, anyway could you see.

702
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 3: THAT i could definitely see That cardinals give up a

703
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 3: little extra because now it's not as much about quantity as.

704
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 3: Quality they get A Calvin, banks they put him inside

705
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 3: at guard for this coming, season and then next year

706
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 3: After Jonah williams has done with his two year, Contract,

707
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 3: boom there's your starting right tackle going forward for the next.

708
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 3: Decade the, position the, player no. PROBLEM i just.

709
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: Hesitate, again we only even Seen Manti Austin ford work

710
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: the draft. Twice and to move up unless he's moved

711
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: back first of, all as he did two years ago

712
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: in order to move, up because he did move up

713
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: to Get, PARIS i just and when you only have

714
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 1: six draft picks going, IN i get. It that's my only.

715
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: Hesitation but, again and going in and the conversations In, indianapolis

716
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: the number of people that we talk to that there

717
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: is there is not a consensus when you talk about

718
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty FIVE Nfl, draft there's not a consensus

719
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: as far who the number one pick, is who the

720
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: best quarterback. Is NOW i think there's become more of a,

721
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: consensus but it's only by. Default it's not a solid quarterback.

722
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 1: Class but when you talk about that ten to twenty,

723
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: range it could go a number of different. Ways someone's

724
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 1: eleventh best prospect could be another team's thirty seconds true best.

725
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: Prospect so if but, again if you're sitting there at

726
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: sixteen and you see this start, guy he's still on the,

727
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: board he's still on the, board then, YEAH i. Would

728
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: If i'm a general manager AND i have, conviction or

729
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: If i've got a guy's around, me hey we need

730
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: this guy, Mania Austin fort will pick up the. Phone

731
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: there's no doubt in my mind that he has the

732
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: ability to trade. Up it's just that first time would

733
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: be the first time in the first. Round now he's

734
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: done it other, days but going from sixteen to thirteen

735
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 1: at what costs just depends.

736
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 3: Well in most mock drafts don't have him getting past

737
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: The bears at ten because The bears still do need

738
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 3: a tackle and a left tackle in particular to complete that,

739
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 3: rebuild that reset or their offensive line Under Ben. Johnson

740
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 3: or Remember Ben johnson comes from A lions. Outfit that

741
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,479
Speaker 3: what they do with their very first draft Pick Brad

742
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 3: holmes And Dan. Campbell they Took Penny, sewell just sort

743
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 3: of like The cardinals with Montiyassa word And Jonathan gannon

744
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 3: Took Paris Johnson. Junior so there's some similarities. There when

745
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 3: you want to build football, tough as we like to

746
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 3: say about The Arizona cardinals and their. Philosophy but if

747
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 3: he's still, There Calvin, banks and will he get Past? Miami,

748
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 3: now a lot of other mocks Have miami at thirteen

749
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 3: taking that offensive. Lineman so that's why you have to come,

750
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 3: up do a deal with The dolphins and try and

751
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 3: get the. Guy perhaps that you would cover it in that.

752
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 3: Regard but, remember here's the, Thing craig about the whole

753
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 3: quality versus. Quantity at least this is What i'm telling.

754
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 3: Myself you tell me If i'm on point with this or.

755
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 3: Not it's one thing when You're maniacibor And Jonathan gannon

756
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,959
Speaker 3: and you're cutting other people's draft picks and there's only

757
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 3: three left from the previous four draft classes that preceded

758
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 3: maniacin for. It but because you've had so many rookies come,

759
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 3: in so many acquisitions over the last two, years there's

760
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 3: only so many spots on the final, roster fifty three

761
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 3: of them unless they've changed that as one of the

762
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 3: offseason rule. Changes so it's much more difficult to start

763
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 3: cutting your own guys that you have attachments, to that

764
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 3: you believe. In that you've personally scouted and. Coached so

765
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 3: in that, case if they were to give up a draft,

766
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 3: pick AND i get, it they only have six and

767
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 3: they value them as much as any team in the.

768
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 3: League but if they had to do that to get

769
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 3: that guy to complete the offensive, LINE i think they.

770
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: Would here's another name to, Consider Daniel. Jeremiah his three

771
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: point zero offensive linemen can play cross the. Board North

772
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: Dakota State's Gray zabel six six three twelve love the. Size,

773
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: yes it's AN fcs, Program yet here's someone who can

774
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: play right, tackle left, tackle can play the guard. Position

775
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: going back to the biggest question THAT i think a

776
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: lot of us have on that offensive side of the

777
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: ball is who's the right?

778
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 3: Guard?

779
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: Now can you plug in a rookie There sandwich next

780
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 1: To Jonah williams Or Kelvin beacham next To yell Defrolt

781
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: i'd have no problem with that because you've got veterans

782
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: bookending a. Rookie and, again you can kind of get

783
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: lost at the guard. Position it doesn't stick out much

784
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 1: like a tackle, would where you get. Beat everyone sees

785
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: it kind of hide a little bit as a, guard

786
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: especially if you're a younger. Player all, Right Gray zabel

787
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: kick him out to the tackle spot after his first

788
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: year six, six three. Twelve that's hard to. Move and

789
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: he was one Of Daniel jeremiah's big players as far

790
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 1: as The Senior bowl was. Concern in, fact called him

791
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: a day one starter and the overall practice player of

792
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: the week in The Senior. Bowl that's a poll OF nfl. Executives,

793
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: again those practices much more important than the game. Itself

794
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: that's Another, again the position just a different, name and

795
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 1: there you would stay at sixteen and select offensive.

796
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 3: Alignment, yeah he had to have it That Senior. Bowl

797
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 3: That Senior bowl week is no more important to anyone

798
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 3: than a guy coming From North Dakota state because you

799
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 3: got to prove it against the big boys from the big.

800
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 3: Schools and he. Did he held his own and then

801
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 3: SOME i saw Or lancero line put a tough guy

802
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 3: profile on this prospect own In North Dakota. State, who

803
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 3: by the, way he played four different positions over his

804
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 3: career in, college and he had ample opportunity to go

805
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 3: to THE fbs to Go division one for big. Money

806
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 3: he said he left a significant amount six, FIGURES i

807
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 3: mean a lot of money on the table to stay

808
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 3: At North Dakota, state play with his, brother try and

809
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 3: get the national. Championship he did do. That he checked

810
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 3: both those boxes and from all accounts they say his

811
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 3: frame at six six three twelve has room for additional

812
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 3: body masks and. Strength so if that's the, case to your, point,

813
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 3: yeah start him, inside kick him outside at some point

814
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 3: early in his, career not unlike A Calvin banks out

815
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 3: Of texas if you want that direction either, WAY i

816
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 3: could easily see The cardinals calling that, name especially when

817
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 3: you hear the two words tough. Guy they like. That

818
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 3: they like that bit of nasty in the. Trenches but then,

819
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 3: again don't forget About Isaiah. Adams to, me that is

820
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 3: the sleeper of the. Offseason where is he in the squad?

821
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 3: Rack how much strength does he put? On as he

822
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 3: had one of Those Zach allen off seasons between his

823
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 3: rookie year and his sophomore year in THE nfl where

824
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 3: he gets, stronger he gets, bigger and he comes back

825
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 3: a totally different. Player because they did like what they

826
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 3: saw In Isaiah adams on the. Film now he just

827
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,959
Speaker 3: has to have more than ability to compete and hold

828
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: his own strength, wise and they think he definitely has

829
00:42:58,600 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 3: the ability to achieve that.

830
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: To cornerback and offensive. Line as far as the mock

831
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: drafts are, concerned The cardinals did make a couple of

832
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: moves since our last, show both at the cornerback position

833
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: and offensive. Line Jalen jones has been signed to a

834
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: one year deal to bolster up that cornerback, room and

835
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: His Ole miss Teammate Royce newman signed a one year

836
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: deal to again give That cardinals offensive line more. Depth

837
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: not saying either one of these guys are coming in

838
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: to be a, starter but at this, point when you're

839
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: trying to build that ninety man, roster, yeah at this

840
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: point you're gonna see names guys coming. In maybe you

841
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: catch lightning in a, bottle or maybe they're that death,

842
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: player or As Nick rlis likes to, say someone loses a.

843
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: Shoe well you've got someone to come in and play

844
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: or start if need. Be like we Saw Jackson, barton

845
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 1: one of those players who hangs around does enough coaches

846
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: don't want to see him walk out the, building and

847
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: all of a, sudden he's starting a couple of games

848
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: for you because guys ahead of him get. Hurt who's

849
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: to say if that's Not Royce. Newman this, Season, Hey.

850
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 3: Jackson, barton that one game he, had he didn't make

851
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 3: it through the entirety of the. Game he was somewhere

852
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 3: in the fourth, quarter ran up what the toe, injury

853
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 3: and that plagued him the rest of the. Year but,

854
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 3: hey he graded out pretty well in the coach's. Eyes

855
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 3: and HE i mean at that point he was the

856
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 3: third string right tackle and he came in and he

857
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 3: acquitted himself real. Well Royce newman's. Intriguing you know why

858
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 3: because as a rookie he started sixteen games With Green

859
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 3: bay at, guard and then since his rookie, year the

860
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 3: last three years he Hasn't he's had another eight, starts

861
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 3: but he, obviously you, know the action has been, intermittent

862
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 3: and last year he only got one game of action With.

863
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 3: Tampa so wait a, minute what is still under the?

864
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 3: Hood can The cardinals untap a little bit of? That

865
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 3: is that something where it just was a matter of

866
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 3: a poor, fit you, know the last couple of teams

867
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 3: he's been. With but here's a guy six, five, three

868
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 3: ten fifty two career games and after starting sixteen as

869
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 3: a rookie three years, Ago, hey he kicked the tires

870
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 3: in that and see what he's.

871
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: Got twenty three of his twenty four starts have either

872
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 1: been at right guard or left.

873
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 3: Guard there you.

874
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: Go so now all of a, sudden you've got and

875
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: maybe it's that, position that right guard, position or you're

876
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: just flooding. Everybody, okay we've got, three, four five different.

877
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 3: Guys go. Compete and here's the reality check THAT i

878
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 3: keep telling myself because you, KNOW i, think like a

879
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 3: lot Of cardinals fans and those of us who cover the,

880
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 3: team because we really like not only the, player but

881
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 3: the person is, like Oh, jesus Is Will? Hernandez when

882
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 3: Is Will hernandez coming? Back or, uh guys they are.

883
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 3: White you know, What guess, what it's THE. Nfl it's a.

884
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 3: Business if they haven't returned, Yet i'm not expecting them to.

885
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 3: Return if they, do BECAUSE i have no inside, knowledge then,

886
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 3: great that's. Gravy but as of right, Now i'm proceeding

887
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 3: as if they are not part of the twenty twenty

888
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 3: Five Arizona. Cardinals AND i think is signing like This

889
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 3: Royce newman maybe further solidifies that they got a guy

890
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,760
Speaker 3: with starting experience In. Garden let's see what he looks.

891
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: Like a week from, today excuse, me a week from

892
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: tomorrow Is april, first and the closer you get To

893
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: april and Then may and again if you're still that

894
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: phone hasn't rung yet and you're a man without a,

895
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: team then all of a sudden it becomes, okay maybe

896
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: it's closer to training camp before you actually, Sign and

897
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: especially someone Like Will hernandez coming off IN acl. Injury

898
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: just how healthy are you right? Now and does it

899
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: serve the team better to wait a little while to

900
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: get see where you're at before they're gonna put pen

901
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: to paper and get you to.

902
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 3: Sign who's the guy to look out, for by the,

903
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 3: way among our work colleagues On april, FIRST i, mean

904
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 3: what do you? Think AND i don't know.

905
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: What, well both of us just automatically turn to my

906
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: left you're right and are looking At cody behind the. Glass,

907
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: Yeah cody fits that profile a little, bit the quiet

908
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: guy kind of lives in the. Shadows and then all

909
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: of a, sudden boom right out of.

910
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 3: Nowhere, yeah head on a swivel Around. Cody On april,

911
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 3: first who was the who else would be a, prankster a?

912
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 3: Jokester Probably Zach. Gershman, yeah, Yeah. Gershman you KNOW i

913
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 3: could see it some of the stuff he brought out

914
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 3: of the frat house just two short years ago could

915
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 3: find its way into the. Workplace we'll see about That

916
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 3: darren urban sleeper and That, No darren's too, busy he's

917
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 3: got buttoned, Up he's got too much other stuff going,

918
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 3: on you, KNOW i, mean you know he has to

919
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 3: ASSESS hr. Violations he can't be committing. Them so, Yeah

920
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 3: i'm gonna start thinking about. That maybe we'll have a

921
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 3: power pole here. Soon those most likely to be on

922
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 3: the business end of An April fool's, Prank.

923
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 1: Cody Of air just all of a sudden perked up

924
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: and when he Mentioned april, first right around the, corner

925
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: AND i Believe, paul will you AND i will be

926
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: on the Air april.

927
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 3: First that is Red sea reported as A.

928
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: Tuesday so we'll just have to figure out what SoundBite

929
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 1: we might be throwing to and all of a sudden

930
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: it throws us under the.

931
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 3: Bus NO. Kvb But Rob frederson could be that. Guy

932
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 3: Frederick's freddie could be that guy On april. First we'll.

933
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 3: See by the, way you want my favorite Stat i'm

934
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 3: gonna avoid mentioning your dead last right now on the

935
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 3: offense when time out.

936
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 1: Timeout, okay as we come full circle here the last

937
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: topic of discussion here On cardinals cover. TOO i am

938
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: not dead. Last i'm near last, place not dead. Last

939
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: there's a, Distinction. Paul i'm not the last Place San

940
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: francisco forty nine. Ers i'm not quite that.

941
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 3: BAD i. See, okay we'll be, bad just not that.

942
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 3: Bad you. Know what is even worse was the three

943
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 3: point shooting in That Arkansas Saint john's. Game do you

944
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 3: Realize arkansas And Saint john's combine to shoot four of

945
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 3: forty one from three point range in that? GAME i,

946
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 3: mean what is going? On are you? Serious arkansas shot

947
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 3: two of nineteen from three point, range gave up twenty

948
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 3: eight offensive, rebounds and somehow still Beat Rick. PATINO i

949
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 3: don't know how that happens, exactly but it's the beauty

950
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 3: Of march. Madness, so, okay we'll See. Craig there's still

951
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 3: plenty of time to. Go you. Know we look forward

952
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 3: to attaching those two last place to not only The,

953
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 3: niners but To Craig.

954
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: Grielow, yeah we'll just have to see how the next

955
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, go and who, knows MAYBE i will

956
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: be the last place forty nine.

957
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 3: Ers here On cardinals cover. Too by the, way it

958
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 3: can always get, worse it just. DID i look to my,

959
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 3: RIGHT i see Cam ward's pro day at THE, u

960
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 3: And i'm reminded of the twenty six point comeback he

961
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 3: engineered in the second half against on the road, too

962
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 3: by the, way on the road against someone's Almost saturday,

963
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 3: night STINKING Espn college game day was In. Berkeley we

964
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 3: had it, all we were killing. It the whole day was,

965
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 3: ours and then Cam ward comes back and wins the

966
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 3: game by one. Point it was like thirty six thirty

967
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 3: five or some, ridiculous absolute heart and soul crushing loss

968
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 3: by The alma. Mater i'ven't felt that bad since this

969
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 3: past week WHERE i got food. Poisoning so anyway.

970
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: There, jeez, yeah all, right let's let's give let's Give

971
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: paul a. Break he's been through a, lot both here

972
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: at working apparently at home. Too so on that, note

973
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 1: we'll put a lit on this edition Of Cardinals cover,

974
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: two presented By, hyundai proud partner of The Arizona. Cardinals as,

975
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: always special thanks to our executive Producer Jill Mama Hundre

976
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: our associate Producer Coddy. Fincher keep an eye On cody

977
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: over there For Paul. Calvic I'm Craig Real. Lulu we'll

978
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 1: talk to you next time here On, Cardinals cover, Two

979
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 1: Where's My?

980
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 3: Chicken? Broth And Graham crackers