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Speaker 1: Celebrity club.

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Speaker 2: John jo what the hell are you doing? And you're

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Speaker 2: sticking your penis against the war You're embarrassing me.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, dad.

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Speaker 4: It was itchy.

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Speaker 2: Get it was itchy. It was it against the brick. Well,

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Speaker 2: how itchy?

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Speaker 4: Jesus, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Okay, get yourself to give this a nice place.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, embarrassing.

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Speaker 4: Can I have a Coca cola?

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Speaker 3: No, no, you can't.

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Speaker 2: This is look you're becoming a man. You used to

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Speaker 2: be a kid drinking Coca cola. You're not doing that. No,

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Speaker 2: you're drinking veels blood tonight.

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Speaker 3: I'm thirsty.

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Speaker 2: Damn your voice is bothering me. Let's get inside.

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Speaker 4: Hie table. Oh my drunk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's right, John Dotty, Hi Johnny Bye.

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Speaker 4: I'll be a waitress tonight. Last week, I don't know

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Speaker 4: if you Yeah, yeah, I let me take you to

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Speaker 4: your table. Follow me. Well, can I get you? Can

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Speaker 4: I get you? Your special brandy was a little bit

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Speaker 4: of red sauce in it.

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Speaker 2: Bring it over to the table.

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Speaker 4: Oh you're gonna be handsome like you daddy. What's your name?

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Speaker 4: My name's Johnny.

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Speaker 2: You don't look like my mommy, Johnny, shut the fuck up. Sorry, Papa,

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Speaker 2: Now tell me something.

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Speaker 4: Where are you from Howard Beach? Oh my god, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you might know my father, Tony the Claus Recouplia.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I don't know him.

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Speaker 5: Bit itches say that you put the claws in the

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Speaker 5: seat last week.

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Speaker 4: No, no, I don't recall that. So we have a

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Speaker 4: few specials tonight. We're doing Field Capacola. We're doing it looks.

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Speaker 2: Like I dropped my fork and I need you to

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Speaker 2: pick it up now, John, make sure you look into

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Speaker 2: the eye of whatever you see that she lets down.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, can you tell me what that does?

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Speaker 6: Okay, I can't find this for Oh I'm such an.

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Speaker 5: Everywhere, Oh Papa, my little hot and spicy thoughts.

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Speaker 4: That just getting really spicy exactly, chicken.

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Speaker 5: And some spaghetti and rolling around a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Yes, go do that.

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Speaker 5: Go do that.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna finger loose wit trick. Oh fuck that hole goes.

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Speaker 1: See who's that knocking at the door.

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Speaker 5: It's all your friends, you filthy horse. Your husband's gone,

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Speaker 5: and we've got books and a bottle of wine to kill.

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Speaker 4: It's Hollywood, it's books, it's gossip.

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Speaker 5: I'm shook, Memoirs, Martinis Slevely Book Club, to read it

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Speaker 5: while it's hot.

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Speaker 1: Slevely poop club, I'll tell your secrets.

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Speaker 5: We won't talk celebrity books. No boys are aloud, say

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Speaker 5: it loud.

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Speaker 4: And cloud club buzz me in. I brought the queer voe. Hey,

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Speaker 4: best friend, how are you? My brother?

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Speaker 5: Very very very good. Everybody's healthy.

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Speaker 6: Everybody, everyone is very healthy. Except for me, of course.

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Speaker 6: I am having a little bit of heart problems.

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Speaker 5: Okay, yes, you're having chest pains.

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Speaker 4: A little bit of chest pains. I saw the doctor.

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Speaker 4: He said, lay off the veal. I said, that's like

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Speaker 4: telling the Pope to stop being Catholic.

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Speaker 5: Hey, you don't need to lay off the veal. Right,

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Speaker 5: thank you.

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Speaker 4: I've heard it's a lean meat.

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Speaker 5: My riend, Just go for a walk. That's all you

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Speaker 5: need to do. Just go for a walk.

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Speaker 4: I'm so relieved to hear that your family is going.

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Speaker 5: To put you in touch with my cardiologist. That I'm

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Speaker 5: sister Mary of Grace Catherine Victoria beautiful hospital.

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Speaker 4: Beautiful. I love that hospital. I donated a million dollars

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Speaker 4: to them.

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Speaker 5: Actually last year. It's in the middle of the cemetery.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of secretary, we have a guest today today.

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Speaker 5: I know you guys hate it when we bring in

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Speaker 5: someone we thought we'd fucking torture you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're.

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Speaker 6: Gonna kind of die at this guest because we have

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Speaker 6: a celebrity, an Italian, a daughter or a cousin, not

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Speaker 6: a mother.

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Speaker 5: As far as she knows, she is a hilarious comedian.

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Speaker 5: You know her from the New York scene for many years.

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Speaker 5: You maybe remember her from our live show last year

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Speaker 5: at the Public Hotel. Most Wonderful was one set. She's

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Speaker 5: at a hotel show. It was a really fun show.

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Speaker 4: You know her from the hit Amazon show.

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Speaker 5: I was about to say, like the hit f Yi,

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Speaker 5: I forget the name.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 5: People literally say that that was the best show I've seen,

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Speaker 5: I've ever seen, I've seen like all less. It made

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Speaker 5: many critics top ten lists. Of course, we're talking about

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Speaker 5: none other than Edie Monica.

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Speaker 4: You're welcome, Fellow Ridgewood. You guys are.

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Speaker 5: Both also Fellow is a Dane and full Italian.

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Speaker 6: No half, you're half okay like me? What's the other

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Speaker 6: half if I'm.

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Speaker 5: Jewizza Joe Pizza like Madonna? Sure?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, I guess you're the dream mix

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Speaker 6: of ethnicities that the author of our book.

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Speaker 4: I guess her father wished she had married.

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Speaker 6: Oh yes, yeah, let's just getting about none other than

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Speaker 6: you know her from.

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Speaker 4: Her show Growing Up Gotti.

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Speaker 6: You also know her from being the most famous daughter

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Speaker 6: of a mob boss ever, none other than our.

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Speaker 5: Queen Victoria Gotti and her book This Family of Nine.

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Speaker 4: What it was like growing up God God, the.

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Speaker 5: No holds bad truth about life inside the Gotti dynasty

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Speaker 5: told by their most famous daughter. It's like, how many

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Speaker 5: subtitles can there be on the book.

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Speaker 6: She's like, by the way, this has never before seen

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Speaker 6: writings of a daughter of a mob boss, of a gotdi.

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Speaker 2: She's a writer. When I first started reading it, I

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Speaker 2: was like, there's no way she wrote this. But then

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Speaker 2: she's written quite a few books, and she was writing

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Speaker 2: for the Post. You would know if you read the book,

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Speaker 2: you might, don't you know.

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Speaker 6: When I was, you know, looking on Amazon dot com.

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Speaker 6: I hate to use that, of course, I love local bookstores,

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Speaker 6: and I was looking on her book, and mostly I

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Speaker 6: was seeing was novels.

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Speaker 4: I was shook to my court. It was like the

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Speaker 4: Senator's daughter, and then like the Senator's daughter's daughter. They're

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Speaker 4: all political thrillers.

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Speaker 5: She's very sort of Hillary Clinton of her. Yes, she

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Speaker 5: was now getting into thriller slash. Stacy Abrams also is

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Speaker 5: writing thrillers. Women love to be thrilled and love to

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Speaker 5: thrill others.

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Speaker 6: And I will just say, like his book is crazy,

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Speaker 6: because yeah, there's no with like Madison Corrillo that she

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Speaker 6: wrote the copy.

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Speaker 2: She wrote all seven hundred pages this book. This is

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Speaker 2: a long book.

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Speaker 4: It's a long book.

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Speaker 5: As we can talk about the cover briefly. It's her

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Speaker 5: in a sort of a foyer of a home. There

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Speaker 2: Looks like it's a green screen, and her hand is

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Speaker 2: supposed to be on the table.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and by the way, a table that's a big

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Speaker 4: like heavy ray more in Flannagana, it's like a casket

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Speaker 4: but a table exactly.

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Speaker 5: And then there's a big like funerary floral arrangement on

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Speaker 5: the casket table and then super imposting the table is

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Speaker 5: a freaking photo of her dead father.

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Speaker 4: And also this photo I can tell is one of

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Speaker 4: his court photos. I believe.

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Speaker 5: She's like to what he did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're like nineteen council racketeering, twenty counts of conspiracy

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Speaker 4: to murder.

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Speaker 5: And then Edie, as you know noticed her hair is

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Speaker 5: in three different blunt lengths. There's a bang and then

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Speaker 5: a second chop right above the breast, and then a

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Speaker 5: third chop at the ass. It's tits ass and she.

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Speaker 4: Looks hot, she looks amazing.

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Speaker 5: It's like she's wearing three wigs.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and we're to assume she's had some help in

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Speaker 4: the breast department.

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Speaker 5: They do look very they're up. I mean she's boosted

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Speaker 5: them in this boosty.

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Speaker 6: Agg Well, she does talk about she has like an abscess,

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Speaker 6: she has health issues, so she has a lot of

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Speaker 6: different health issues, so maybe she did get some help.

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Speaker 6: So before we really get into this tome Adie, would

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Speaker 6: you mind sharing your connection to the family and the

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Speaker 6: life as she calls it because she doesn't. Siders call

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Speaker 6: it the mafia or Nostra, but insiders we.

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Speaker 4: Call it the life, the life.

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Speaker 2: Well, I asked my parents because I knew they had

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Speaker 2: some connection. My dad went to the Gambino funeral. I

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Speaker 2: don't know how, and I think he shook John Gotti's hand.

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Speaker 2: He was one of the fifteen hundred receiving. He's always

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Speaker 2: been like, there was fifteen hundred people at my wedding.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know a soul that yes, and that was

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Speaker 2: your dad being like, thank you so much.

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Speaker 5: Yes.

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Speaker 2: And my parents met at this restaurant, like in the eight.

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Speaker 3: Twenties.

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Speaker 2: It was this like fancy Manhattan restaurant that they worked at,

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Speaker 2: and when John Gotti would come in, they would be like,

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Speaker 2: don't put him in a window seat, just so nice.

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Speaker 5: He is the one to get shot yad the road table.

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Speaker 2: He gave my mom fifty dollars for one coat at

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Speaker 2: the coach check and he said thanks.

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Speaker 4: Doll Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Yes, thanks all yes, and she said something. I text

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Speaker 2: her about it this morning and she was like, and

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Speaker 2: little did I know that the money was from heroin.

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Speaker 6: Which is so cool funny because throughout this whole book,

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Speaker 6: Victoria is so like staunch in her She's just like

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Speaker 6: and there was one thing that my father would not

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Speaker 6: deal with, and that was drugs, and I know in

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Speaker 6: the Gambino family he did not deal with drugs. And

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Speaker 6: it's like, I think the whole business was going to

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Speaker 6: go ahead and be that's the whole Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 5: You do. Because millions of dollars, there's a lot of disavowal,

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Speaker 5: and obviously for legal reasons, I guess she's not going

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Speaker 5: to go ahead and be admitting knowledge of like federal crimes.

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Speaker 4: It's not a rat.

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Speaker 5: She is not a rat, and she's calling out rats.

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Speaker 5: But she's always just being like and they would go

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Speaker 5: and do their work, and it's like, well, what do

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Speaker 5: you think the work is?

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Speaker 4: I was like hoping in the five hundred pages to

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Speaker 4: find out like what the mafia does.

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Speaker 3: She can't be saying all.

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Speaker 5: That, and yet she says so much and yet not that.

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Speaker 5: It's all just like and then I got a phone

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Speaker 5: call from Johnny the Chin.

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Speaker 6: Johnny the Chim was the only one who stood by

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Speaker 6: Tony Luke cays.

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Speaker 2: Well, reading it, it is like she's talking for a

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Speaker 2: long time, is what it feels like reading it.

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Speaker 5: Right, and you're like trying to get up and then

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Speaker 5: but yeah, and then and you're on the kind of

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Speaker 5: like the plastic covered furniture. I'm just trying to go.

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Speaker 5: And then there's just kind of like more snacks are

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Speaker 5: being brought out and more little like dry Italian cookies

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Speaker 5: are on more trays, and you're kind of like, okay,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what happened? Why do you guys do it? And

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Speaker 4: like you're kind of reading your life? Yeah, okay, so

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Speaker 4: I don't know anything about well, okay, four hundred pages.

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Speaker 5: First of all, she's not born until page seventy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and on page one thirty three she's sixteen, and

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Speaker 6: It's you're like, yeah, it's a two hundred is her honeymoon?

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Speaker 6: You're kind of like the first hundred pages I swear

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Speaker 3: She's telling the sob story of her parents.

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Speaker 5: You're like, where a who are these?

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Speaker 6: If I wrote a memory, I would not be tying

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Speaker 4: But then I was like, wait a second, Like, actually,

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Speaker 6: My grandmother worked in a half factory in the broad

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Speaker 5: Okay, okay.

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Speaker 4: The part where she.

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Speaker 6: Literally talks about how her mother was conceived because her

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Speaker 2: How was she to go home? How would anybody believe

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Speaker 5: The rendezvous ended with him ejaculating all over her thigh

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Speaker 5: for both of them, a brutal lesson in biology and

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Speaker 5: procreation would soon follow. Six weeks later, Faye found out

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Speaker 5: didn't even have sex. I too wonder how could that be?

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Speaker 3: Could be so.

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Speaker 6: Naive about Victoria Gotti because I saw an interview she

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Speaker 2: She's a good woman, Like, she's a loyal fucking woman.

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Speaker 2: I watched some videos of her this morning too, and

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Speaker 4: A very She's not like the Mob wives.

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Speaker 2: No, she doesn't give a fuck, Like she's gonna tell

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Speaker 5: I mean, you could say that about any of the

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Speaker 6: But they're like I feel like, for example, Karen, who

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Speaker 6: is the daughter of Sammy the Bull who put John

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Speaker 5: Who a villain, villain even worse than Paul the Cheeks,

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Speaker 5: And she.

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Speaker 4: Never trusted Sammy.

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Speaker 6: And she's also being like he was born to actually

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Speaker 6: wonderful people in the fabric, which makes me think, why

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Speaker 2: Did you get to the part where her name is Victoria,

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Speaker 5: Oh, because they were like at the hospital, name her

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Speaker 5: they were actually asking her what she wanted to name

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Speaker 2: She was like, I was supposed to be Kimberly and

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Speaker 4: Think about her life would have changed Kimberly.

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Speaker 5: God doesn't really work. But so you're suggesting with the

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Speaker 5: about the thigh ejaculation.

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Speaker 6: Ejaculation, Yes, dad, because the whole book is her being

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Speaker 5: That's her daddy is really this is just a book

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Speaker 5: about John Gottie, And yes, she's.

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Speaker 3: Just backing him up. He was an amazing father.

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Speaker 5: Oh.

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Speaker 3: The thing she said right before he.

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Speaker 2: Went into jail to the cameras, she said, last of

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Speaker 2: the Mohicans. He was last of the Mohicans, and there's

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Speaker 5: And I meant that. If you thought for one second

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Speaker 5: I didn't mean to reference the Mohicans.

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Speaker 4: I did. I did. Imagine someone's like, describe your father.

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Speaker 6: The last of the Mohicans Hall the Brother.

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Speaker 5: So I just heard this from a colleague I ran

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Speaker 5: collection of Native American sculpture.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, interesting.

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Speaker 5: Interesting. So there is I think a connection amongst the

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Speaker 6: Think of you know, she really wanted to also become

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Speaker 2: She's a bad ass.

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Speaker 5: Well, which is like another can we know.

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Speaker 4: She is like wait, I want to be a lawyer.

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Speaker 6: But then it was like she had to marry Carmen

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Speaker 6: and she was become a mother, become a lawyer. John

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Speaker 6: Gotti wanted her to become a lawyer, which is random

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Speaker 6: because like.

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Speaker 5: Well he wants her to like defend yeah and be

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Speaker 5: just like, uh, the evidence is not admist the bull

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Speaker 6: I mean she is such a like badass Fox News lawyer.

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Speaker 6: Her vibe oh very I mean like Victoria Gotti. And

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Speaker 6: then she doesn't go to law school, but she loves

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Speaker 6: the library, which is so beautiful. And she's like, back

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Speaker 6: in those days, women weren't allowed to get library cards.

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Speaker 2: And you're like, really, because.

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Speaker 6: She's always like, of course an Italian household, women weren't

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Speaker 5: That was she saying that that was like a cultural

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Speaker 5: at like the bens and Herst branch, there.

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Speaker 4: Was a law. I think it was about like children too.

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Speaker 5: Women shouldn't be learning too much and it's so gentle

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Speaker 5: and like a woman could never learn.

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Speaker 6: And she was like, but my father was so sexy

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Speaker 6: that he convince the woman at the main branch to

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Speaker 4: Did you like.

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Speaker 6: Grow up with kind of any strong Italian values like

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Speaker 2: No, nothing like that. I feel like, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I grew up with like my stepdad's family, which was Italian,

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Speaker 5: My mother is Jewish, but she's obsessed with Italian. Then

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Speaker 5: she is okay, she likes the sauce. Ay Elito, I

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Speaker 5: don't know. I wasn't appressed.

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Speaker 4: Wasn't a press life Victoria, God, that's poutful.

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Speaker 2: One thing I did I loved how much she talked

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Speaker 2: about violence freely. Like so she said her mom through

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Speaker 2: a fork and it landed in John Bonny's shoulder.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, when she was so mad at him for flirting

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Speaker 5: We took the sun to get a coke after they

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Speaker 5: to get beautiful school clothes with the kids. Because he

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Speaker 5: just like each part of that story gets like more

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Speaker 5: We were very poor. But when he won at the races,

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Speaker 5: then he said, I'm taking it a Macy. But then

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Speaker 6: Stabs and she's like there was blood everywhere.

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Speaker 4: He was passed.

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Speaker 2: They thought that she had killed him, which.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, damn, you can do. There was a fork.

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Speaker 6: I think you hit it hard enough you're piss yeah,

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Speaker 6: and pull it down.

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Speaker 5: Break it, break it through, break it through.

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Speaker 3: The skin and the muscle.

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Speaker 5: Do you think that it was like a dinner fork

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Speaker 5: or maybe more of a serving for.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's tons of She.

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Speaker 6: Was always like, of course we didn't have much, but

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Speaker 6: serve to lasagn Yet it would love to be before

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Speaker 6: my father went.

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Speaker 4: To prison, and then she picked up that damned him.

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Speaker 2: Wait, but you were talking about her sweet sixteen, where

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Speaker 2: she's constantly saying that this was not the norm. She

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Speaker 4: I thought the sweet sixteen is almost kind of such

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Speaker 6: Her father like won't dance with her because he doesn't

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Speaker 4: Little did I know? Yeah, he didn't know how to

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Speaker 4: know how to read, Like, little did I know? My

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Speaker 5: I mean, what does that mean? Not knowing how to do.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like he can't just do it like kind of

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Speaker 5: Slows and forth when bad our rest. But some men

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Speaker 3: Gooy on the inside.

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Speaker 6: Well, how embarrassing for John Gottie if he got up

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Speaker 6: there and people were like, oh, John Gotti fucking.

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Speaker 1: Dance celet book club, stook club.

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Speaker 6: Wait her wedding When she describes and have you guys

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Speaker 6: call this how she wanted to have a king's wedding,

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Speaker 6: which is when there's no bridesmaids, it's only men, she's like,

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Speaker 6: I want guys, girls, full guys, gool, she's a king's

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Speaker 6: weddings when it's just only meant twenty six men flanking me, just.

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Speaker 5: An army sounds so hot. And then she's like, I

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Speaker 5: which does sound very wedding. What do you think the

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Speaker 6: She said it was fifteen hundred people already, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 6: my dad was there, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Your dad was literally there.

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Speaker 5: Fifteen hundred is crazy because I was thinking about my

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Speaker 5: one seventy five to me is as high as you

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Speaker 5: can go before you just can't really like enjoy everyone's company,

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Speaker 5: you know, at that point then you're not seeing everyone,

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Speaker 5: and then it's like, what's the point. I mean, obviously

446
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 5: there's some people that you are forced to invite that

447
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 5: you don't really want to hang out with, so whatever, fine,

448
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 5: but like maybe they don't counter with the total number,

449
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 5: but fifteen hundred.

450
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 4: It's too many people, way too many people.

451
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,400
Speaker 5: And so then she goes to Vegas on her honeymoon.

452
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 4: With Carmid, Italian guy. Karmid her father wanted or to

453
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 4: marry a nice Jewish man.

454
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 2: I thought that was interesting.

455
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 4: I was kind of shocked by that too, but but

456
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 4: this is money.

457
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 2: They're funny, funny guys. He didn't want her in the life, Yeah,

458
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 2: he wants to protect her.

459
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 5: And I think that, you know, there's this similar there's

460
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 5: a Mediterranean background there.

461
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 4: It's kind of the same thing.

462
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 5: Jew's Italian, sure, a curly hair.

463
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 2: Like him this whole time, or like she belongs with

464
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 2: an Italian I think, yeah, I mean.

465
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 4: I can imagine her.

466
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 2: She spun this whole book, you know, like she's a

467
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 2: mastermind herself. She's John Gotti's daughter.

468
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 5: Do you think that your dad and stepdad also belong

469
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,120
Speaker 5: with Italians? That they shouldn't have married a Jew?

470
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 3: No?

471
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 2: And how dare you fucking how dare how dare you.

472
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 4: Insult her family like that? That's my family, your family

473
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 4: you're talking about.

474
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 2: I'd say, how I feel for my mother marrying into.

475
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 4: This bullshit life.

476
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they needed her, They needed a Jew.

477
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 4: To settle them down.

478
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 5: Yes, easy, right, or just you know they're reaching for

479
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 5: the fork.

480
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my mom too.

481
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 4: Okay, that's why I liked that.

482
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 3: There was violence, And I was like, I've seen them before.

483
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 5: You've seen like the rolling pins I have.

484
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 2: I have problems, you know, I have to suppress. Yeah,

485
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 2: so I liked Grede.

486
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, exactly.

487
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 4: Right, just kind of normal thing. You grabbed the Fore would.

488
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 5: You stab your husband if he gambled away seventeen grand.

489
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 4: On your honeymoon? Your honeymoon, I'm to go into the

490
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 4: day two.

491
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 5: Of your honeymoon. He's like, I lost it all at

492
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 5: the tables.

493
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 2: Yes, suh, what would you do?

494
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 4: You're on your honeymoon.

495
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 2: Would you grab fork or would you be more bad

496
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 2: if I'm more hands on? Okay, okay, those rab with

497
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 2: the nails, digging in.

498
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 5: The claws, my claws.

499
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 2: Yes, like looking them in the eyes and squeezing really hard.

500
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 4: Oh that's good, just being like where's the money? You

501
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 4: love me?

502
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 5: Yeah?

503
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 4: The icon fucking kidding me?

504
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 2: Yes, because that's saying You're like, I know I'm doing

505
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: this sea right now and you know that I know.

506
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not afraid of where this can go.

507
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Well then at the end, I mean, Carmine

508
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 2: holds her shotgun to her head.

509
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 4: That was so psycho.

510
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 3: I dog keep that.

511
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 2: He said, say something, if I shoot you in the face,

512
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 2: you won't be beautiful anymore?

513
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 4: What what?

514
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 6: And meanwhile, I mean, this guy's what three hundred pounds.

515
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 2: She was taking a nap and she woke up to

516
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 2: the gun on her head and.

517
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 6: Mind you, Also, this is the night of her second

518
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 6: book release party killed at ilk Continori, where Bradshaw was

519
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 6: stood up by her friends and he didn't show up

520
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 6: and she was pissed and she was like, so you're

521
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 6: ruining my night. And also she was out with some

522
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 6: of her girlfriends and a gay guy, and he was

523
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 6: being like, Michael, you're sleeping with him.

524
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 5: Women need to stop going to El Cantonori. Nothing good,

525
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 5: it's not good.

526
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 4: And then she comes home and goes to sleep.

527
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 6: He lays his massive mafia scrap metal self on her,

528
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 6: points a gun at her, and then he's.

529
00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 2: Her own gun that she got for protection, right when

530
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: Carmine isn't home.

531
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 6: And then of course who uses it Carmine the domestic partner.

532
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 5: I mean, this is the problem of ben last say.

533
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 5: It's always used by family against another family member.

534
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 6: And so she finally does divorce him. But I read

535
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 6: this headline from just like seven years ago that one

536
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 6: of the growing up gotty boys at his wedding.

537
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 4: She came to the wedding with a soap opera star

538
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 4: Jack Scalia, and Carmine was like still at the wedding

539
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 4: and they had been divorced at ten years, being like,

540
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 4: you know you want me back, and she was like,

541
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 4: we've been divorced twelve years. Wow, I want nothing to

542
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 4: do with you. Wow, nothing to do with you. Well,

543
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 4: let me read this passage from the honeymoon.

544
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 6: Oh yes, we left on the seventh day and headed

545
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 6: to Las Vegas.

546
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 4: When we arrived at the MGM GRAM.

547
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,719
Speaker 6: We were quickly ushered into a beautiful suite on the

548
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 6: top floor. We stayed in the first night, then spent

549
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 6: the next morning at the pool. The second night we

550
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 6: went to dinner to see Siegfried and Roy perform. At

551
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 6: the end of every day, Dad would call the hotel

552
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 6: to check in. He was pleased we were having a

553
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 6: great time again. This book was just Oh, I love

554
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 6: when Daddy is pleased.

555
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 5: Please my honeymoon activities.

556
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 4: He's like, so, I was saying for and boyd.

557
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 5: Did they do the good show, They do the good tricks.

558
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 5: They make the tiger jump through the hoop.

559
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 4: Good good, very good good.

560
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 6: I told him to Did you get to pet the

561
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 6: tiger after good good? I arranged that Later on, Carmine

562
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,719
Speaker 6: went into the casino to gamble while I made a

563
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 6: beeline for the exclusive shops in.

564
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 4: The hotel lobby.

565
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 6: When I returned to the suite, I was surprised to

566
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 6: find Carmen there, sitting on the sofa with his head

567
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 6: cradled in his hands. When he looked up and saw

568
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 6: my arms filled with shopping bags, he nearly collapsed when

569
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 6: he announced that he lost seventeen thousand dollars.

570
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 4: I nearly collapsed.

571
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 2: His head was in his lap and he was trying

572
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 2: to auto for late in the lobby.

573
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 4: My father had just called him to ask him how

574
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 4: Marino relations were going.

575
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 5: He was just going to need to take all those

576
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 5: hats back to the.

577
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 4: It's just so pretty woman her with all these bags.

578
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 6: What exclusive shops do you think she want to boss Copscots?

579
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 3: You remember that story department store.

580
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 5: Good Diva, Tons of good Diva. Okay, you know the

581
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 5: part where her younger brother is tragically killed in a

582
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 5: car accident by their drunk driver or neighbor. Yeah, so

583
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 5: John Gotti seems like he's being super reasonable and he's

584
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 5: just going it was an accident.

585
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 4: It was tragic. It was very tragic.

586
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 5: So then like two days later, she's looking at her

587
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 5: window and she sees the neighbor and he's having a party.

588
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 4: This was so disrespectful.

589
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 5: He held a bottle of beer in one hand and

590
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 5: a hot dog in the other. That they were mostly

591
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 5: men present, and most were dressed in members only jackets.

592
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 4: I loved that.

593
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 5: It was the end of March and still pretty cold outside.

594
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 5: They were all laughing, talking and laughing. The very sight

595
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 5: enraged me. And tore at my heart. So it's like

596
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 5: the member's only jacket party, like basically centered the roof.

597
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 5: She kind of like tells her parents about it. Then mysteriously,

598
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 5: a week later they go to Florida. The neighbor goes

599
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 5: missing and has never heard from.

600
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 6: It's interesting, it's a coincidence.

601
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 5: And you know he did go messing. And some people

602
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 5: said he was crushed and not friend's car crusher and

603
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 5: mass path.

604
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, some say his body was minced into a million

605
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 6: little pieces in masspeth.

606
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 4: Is that a theory? I think so?

607
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 2: I loved in the very beginning she says that John

608
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: Gottie put a sanitation worker's kid through college, and I

609
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: was like, ah, and she's saying it like he was

610
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 2: such a giving man, right, so generous. I was like, yeah,

611
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: I bet he put a sanitation workers.

612
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I bet he did a lot of sanitiza for you.

613
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 5: Oh my wait. Sparaga was insane. Soon after, many theory surfaced.

614
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 5: Father was shot in his body buried under a parking lot.

615
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 5: Father was stuffed in John Cognellia's an associated dad's car

616
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 5: crusher on Fountain Avenue, and Fabara was kidnapped and taken

617
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 5: to a nearby basement, tortured and then killed, his body

618
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 5: dissolved in acid, all of retaliation from my brother's death.

619
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 4: Her discution of violence is so beautiful.

620
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 5: She was like many think many many think he just

621
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 5: may have been dissolved in acid. You can say, and.

622
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 3: Then and then shut in a car crusher.

623
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 6: Her kind of thesis on the mafia is just like

624
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 6: kind of Robin Hood and yes, you know which I

625
00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 6: thought was beautiful.

626
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 5: Well, this was John Gody's reputation kind of in the age.

627
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 4: Don the teflon down when he became.

628
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 5: Super famous, and like the part becomes famous. She's kind

629
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 5: of just like suddenly everything changed. I was going to

630
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 5: dinner with Sean Penn. I didn't like the attention. This

631
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 5: was new to us. This was very different. And then

632
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 5: like he's basically like a famous mafia guy who's like

633
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 5: not in jail. He's like on the cover of Time magazine.

634
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 5: Everyone's just like he's in the mom but like we

635
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 5: like him.

636
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is so an interesting place anymore?

637
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 5: Yes, you know where a criminal.

638
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 4: Last of them?

639
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 5: Well, except you want to talk about Donald Trump, who's

640
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 5: the criminals on the.

641
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 4: I mean that's what she says.

642
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 6: She was like politicians, men of the mafia. She's no different,

643
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 6: she says. You see these politicians put together booking, racketeering, prostitution.

644
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 4: She's what we do.

645
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 5: She knows, she knows the game. She is how it's played.

646
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 6: Do you guys know the part where someone gets killed

647
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 6: Bobby Johnny something, and his last move before he's shot

648
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 6: he throws a jar of homemade mat shooters.

649
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 5: I like that.

650
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 3: You know my uncle?

651
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: My uncle threw a pot of sauce through his daughter's windshield. Yes,

652
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: and then she got a restraining order on him. So

653
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: I like that part. Yeah, I did someone speaking to

654
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: this like it's normal, because it literally.

655
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 5: Is normal sauce and anger. Wait so her car, Yeah.

656
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 3: And the windshield broke a little. It wasn't nice.

657
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 4: It was like the pot with the sauce or more

658
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 4: kind of I.

659
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: Mean, I think I wasn't even born yet. This is

660
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: like lore in my school, lore that I know happened.

661
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 5: Do you know what the conflict was about?

662
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: He was a like druggy, like he was a bad guy.

663
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: He sold drugs much like this, but with no money. Okay,

664
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 2: Howard beach House.

665
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 3: Yes, so maybe something with that.

666
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: He stabbed her mom's new boyfriend damn years before. So

667
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 2: maybe it had to do with that.

668
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 5: Oh my god, all right, history of violence? Shall we say? Yes?

669
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 5: Is he the col ground?

670
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: No?

671
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 4: Dead?

672
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, he's dead.

673
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 4: He's dead. He's dead.

674
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 5: Is he buried in Queen's cemetery? Cemeteries?

675
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: He's cremated, and we put his ashes under the Arizona Bridge.

676
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 3: And when we did it, my dad went, cocksucker.

677
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's the movie. Yeah, cocksucker, cocksucker, cocksucker.

678
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 4: That was me to send me the bull. He ratted

679
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 4: John out.

680
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: You know, I looked up the Gotties today and there

681
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: was some article about like some Goudie kids like are

682
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: in some lost or they got in a fight in

683
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: the high school. So the violence is continuing.

684
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 4: Oh wait, do you see that? Yes, But it was

685
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 4: not even any of the men.

686
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 5: It was like the.

687
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 6: Kids and like one of their wives, Gianna Gotti, which

688
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 6: is my sister's name. It was like two women against

689
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 6: like another woman out a basketball game, like a Long

690
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 6: Island high school.

691
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 3: It ultimately made me sadder.

692
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, we can glean so much

693
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 2: from this and our life was it's dark, it is,

694
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 2: and it makes sense that this is continuing to happen

695
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 2: with the family.

696
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 6: Because you look back in the eighties and the knives

697
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 6: and the crushing of the bodies. That's a little like

698
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 6: chicer kind of looking back.

699
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 5: And then when you're like nothing, a body stuffed.

700
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 4: In a car, car crusher, car crusher, and masmath.

701
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 6: And then it's like twenty twenty four getting in a

702
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 6: fight at like the new rachelle Hyde Park.

703
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 4: Yes, like high school basketball game. It's like you're like

704
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 4: he was the lost of the most.

705
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 3: Yes, they don't make men like that anymore.

706
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 5: No, they don't know went to like hold their punches,

707
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 5: you know.

708
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 2: Yes, no class they're classless, classless.

709
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 4: I was shocked that Gotti is anti celebrity. He hated Sinatra,

710
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 4: she says in here, Yeah, which.

711
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 5: I was shocked by, like place sat his funeral or something.

712
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 6: And he was, but of course very Italian. It was

713
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 6: because like once like Sinatra like stood them up. And

714
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 6: then there's some insane party here where Matthew Broderick is

715
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 6: like begging him to like meet Brando, and John Gotti

716
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 6: is like, no.

717
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 4: Matthew relaxed.

718
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 6: Again, probably old Kintori and like Matthew Broderick is probably like,

719
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 6: please come over, will you like meet Brando?

720
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 4: And John is like, no, I will not have dinner

721
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 4: with an actor.

722
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 5: Because acting is just like does it make a mockery

723
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 5: of the life.

724
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 4: I guess so.

725
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 5: I know, And they.

726
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 3: He was threatened.

727
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 4: Oh interesting, I don't know.

728
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 5: Well, because you know Matthew Brodrick was in The Fresh Well,

729
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 5: I think that's why they were with Marlon Brando, which

730
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 5: is such a good movie.

731
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 4: I bet they were like about to do that movie,

732
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 4: and we're probably like begging Gotty for some like research.

733
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 4: Then Gotti then finally is like, okay, Brando can visit

734
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 4: the like Fish and Hunt Club, which is what they

735
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 4: called their social club.

736
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 5: The part where Paul, like Castellano and like all the

737
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 5: other families are like, he's no good, like he's given

738
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 5: away jobs. So the rival gangs like, we're gonna have

739
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 5: to take him out, and then they kill him in

740
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 5: front of Sparks Steakhouse in the town. What an incredible

741
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 5: piece of cinema.

742
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 4: That was the biggest hit I think in mafia history.

743
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 5: And the guys come up and they're wearing Russian hats,

744
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 5: big furry hat.

745
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 4: Okay, where would you guys take someone.

746
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 5: Out a rat m Honeymoon Coffee and Ridgewood, New York.

747
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 5: Everyone said they're getting the oat Masha, They're getting the

748
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 5: little lattes.

749
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 3: Arthur Russell is blast.

750
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 5: Splitting.

751
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 4: Arthur Russell turned up hot.

752
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 5: There's one girl making a daka for like a two

753
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 5: wear website.

754
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: There's little kids a kid and like why the are

755
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 2: their little kids there?

756
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 5: And the dad is like giving the kid like a

757
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 5: Kafka like little book and like it's so cute that

758
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 5: the kid wants to recall copy.

759
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 3: Of Catcher in the Rye the baby singing.

760
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: Mat.

761
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 5: And then you're sitting in that orange bench. This is

762
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 5: you know that I'm putting on a hit. You're sitting

763
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 5: on the orange bench.

764
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 4: Inside honey smoking clothes inside.

765
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 2: I'm putting cigarettes out on myself inside Honeymoon.

766
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 5: I'm not to be five. Boy rolls by in a

767
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 5: Prius and does a blow dark does a super ego

768
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 5: for me echo from the Murder? Yeah no, he just

769
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 5: vapes at you as he's walking by.

770
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 2: And you.

771
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 5: What about pushing someone like off of a balcony. I

772
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 5: like that.

773
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 4: That's good.

774
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: Bring someone to the wonder Wheel and huff them what.

775
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 3: Is that called chloroform?

776
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, huff them on a swinging car. The thing about

777
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 5: that is it's like, you know, light him on fire

778
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 5: in the car. Yeah, laid him on fire, then dissolve

779
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 5: him an acid. What I like about throwing off of

780
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 5: a balcony is you can just say they fell or

781
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 5: they jumped. It's like there's no like physical evidence that

782
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 5: would suggest that they were pushing on like chloroform. There's

783
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 5: no drugs.

784
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 3: But isn't it more fun that way?

785
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 2: Esting him on fire in a public.

786
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 4: He was a true rat and everyone can see. I

787
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 4: mean that's kind of like the old school keep it

788
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 4: in the trades, like mixing with cement. You know, it's

789
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 4: always like oh yeah, because you.

790
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 3: Know there's pants laid and there's a thumb sticking.

791
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 4: Out, and they're like, huh, I think that's with Johnny

792
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 4: the Chin's thumb. Stick it out.

793
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 5: Call him Johnny the thumb. Now that's fun. Okay, you're

794
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 5: doing trades.

795
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 4: I'm doing trades.

796
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: You're doing fire arson in public.

797
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 5: I'm just like kind of keeping in local. I think

798
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 5: like local murderer is the past.

799
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 3: I want to be known for being fucking crazy, fucked up.

800
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 3: Do know she'll do it anywhere?

801
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, if I may read just kind of a beautiful

802
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 6: classic passage here please. One of the rituals for Dad's

803
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 6: crew was Saturday afternoon lunch at the bergen Hunt Fish Club,

804
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 6: a tradition of my father started upon his release from

805
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 6: prison in nineteen seventy seven. All the guys would get

806
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 6: together for a big Italian feast. Pounds of your cutts,

807
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 6: huge bowls of pasta, and the array of meatballs, sausage

808
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 6: and Italian cold cuts were served. Sometimes the men would

809
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 6: grill steaks outside in the back of the building. Wine,

810
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 6: of course, was enjoyed in abundance. Cigar smoke filled the air.

811
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 6: They ate, drank and enjoyed the food in the company

812
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 6: as only Italian men can. The men would talk, laugh,

813
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 6: play cards, and watch racism the big television at the

814
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 6: club for hours on end. You're literally just like, okay,

815
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 6: stereotypes are right, okay, okay. And then page three sixty

816
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 6: she drops that she works for the post in Star magazine,

817
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 6: and I'm just like, sorry, could we get into your career.

818
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 4: Working as a columnist at Star magazine?

819
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 5: Maybe?

820
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 6: On page two hundred, yeah, it's annoying, it's annoying, it's

821
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 6: honestly patriarchy, And she thinks she had to defend her

822
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 6: father for four.

823
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 4: Hundred pack in a car book and her book that she.

824
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 6: Can't give us her tail of, just like working at

825
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 6: a fabulous gossip magazine.

826
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 2: And if you look at her, that's a woman whose story.

827
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 2: I want to know how she feels about things, like

828
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: I want to actually.

829
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 5: Know her, but maybe she doesn't want to know her.

830
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 6: Oh fuck, I think you said it. She spent so

831
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 6: much time defending herself and her family.

832
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 5: Yes, from rats and from traders and from shit tuckers.

833
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 6: Right, And she gave a little bit of insight into

834
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 6: working at the Post. She was like, and yes, the

835
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 6: Post used me, but I also used the Post.

836
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 3: I want to know when she started doing.

837
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 5: Blonde, because yeah, we've seen this wedding picture. She's a

838
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 5: sultry brunette.

839
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 3: Where she's literally getting married to her daddy.

840
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 5: On the back, no I know. At the back of

841
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 5: the book is her marrying her father.

842
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 4: A wedding dress, huge, massive ille, huge shoulder pads. It

843
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 4: looks like they're about to dance. Maybe he learned by them.

844
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 5: She looks a little sad because she's marrying this guy

845
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 5: who's not which was one of his biggest flaws.

846
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the last time she's going to be

847
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: held by her dad, Like that does suck to not

848
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 2: marry her dad. She's pushing her tits up against her

849
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 2: just and his leg is in between her legs.

850
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 4: Is like, yes, that's right. This is my daughter.

851
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 5: This is my beautiful daughter.

852
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 4: Victoria, named after my wife tour very much alive. I

853
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 4: like that.

854
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 3: The first daughter's name is Angel too.

855
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 4: That's beautiful. Angel Gotti.

856
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 5: Sounds like an Instagram handle Angel angel Gotti.

857
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 4: An Angel Gotty is crazy on Twitter. I'll tell you, yeah,

858
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 4: look her up.

859
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 5: Oh, I think I'm seeing her.

860
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 4: She on about She's just very like Maga and like

861
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 4: QAnon and it's just kind of really she's on one.

862
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:40,479
Speaker 5: She's fun.

863
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, check her out. I'll link you inside the segment Dynasty.

864
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 4: What does she wear?

865
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 5: What does she eat?

866
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 4: How does she live?

867
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 5: Okay, what does she wear? She does like, you know,

868
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 5: tight push up, I push up kind of versuch. She

869
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 5: Italian designers, but I feel like she's also very like

870
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 5: Brighton Beach.

871
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 4: Like local, local design.

872
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, like where she's like this is like Dormitella Cunello

873
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 5: and like Dormantella makes beautiful coats for women.

874
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 6: I went to a beautiful boutique dormant. I got a

875
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 6: fox coat, I got some push up bras. Do you

876
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 6: think she's like Lapurla what's lapla? That like fancy lingerie

877
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 6: or she just like Victoria's Secret.

878
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 5: I think she maybe was hopping by Victoria's Secret.

879
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, but she has some pieces, some fancier pieces.

880
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 5: But I do think the fancier pieces are from like

881
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 5: maybe more of just like a Limon store in the

882
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 5: Lower East Side.

883
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 2: I think she also likes to be comfortable. I think

884
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: she likes to wear something fuzzy, Yes, something cozy, beautiful

885
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: like cashmere.

886
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 5: Her current style, Yes, I'm sure she is so just

887
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 5: like twin set more ath leisure wear, because like she's

888
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 5: up there. But I do feel like a lot of

889
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 5: her life she was not comfortable, and she was stuffed,

890
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 5: and she was corseted, and she had walls up, you know,

891
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 5: very very defensive and not wanting to reveal information, not

892
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 5: be in touch with her own feelings.

893
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 2: I think she thinks she wants to please men, like

894
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 2: she thinks that that's what makes her happy, because she's

895
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 2: never even known nothing else. That's the life, and that's

896
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: the life.

897
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 5: Maybe she's like secretly, like a verse lesbian.

898
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 4: I could see like her kind of being like femdom.

899
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: I do feel like she could be really loved by

900
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: a woman also, like the real in the right.

901
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 4: Way, Yeah, in the right way, deep fingers.

902
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 3: Or someone who really gets to know her.

903
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 2: And I think she needs that.

904
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 4: Oh wait, now I want that for her me too.

905
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 5: Let's find her like a latent life because.

906
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 4: She hasn't gotten married.

907
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: But I also feel like she would be near a

908
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: pussy and she'd be like, oh, like, I just can't

909
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: do I just can't do it.

910
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 5: I just can't do it.

911
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 4: It smells.

912
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 5: I tried, It's weird. I just got my nails done.

913
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 5: I'm not doing it.

914
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 4: You want me to go down there and start licking one?

915
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 4: Is this an ice cream parlor?

916
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 5: It's not for me, it's not for me. What does

917
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 5: she eat? Yes?

918
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 4: Does she eat? I mean she's always like talking about

919
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 4: obviously like making some man meat meat meat, maybe pounds.

920
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 2: Pounds and pounds of meals and pounds of field.

921
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 5: But maybe she's, you know, she's taking it easy on

922
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 5: the salt the days like.

923
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 4: Don't you think she's maybe doing the cutlets but not

924
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 4: the sausage.

925
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, or marinatea mushrooms, yestshrooms.

926
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 5: I mean keeping the figure she's afraid of.

927
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 4: Mushrooms. She's like holding garlic bread for me.

928
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, no carbs right now?

929
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 5: Do you think she's like goingly.

930
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: She's maybe putting a slice of like American cheese on

931
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 2: a piece of bread in the middle of the night,

932
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: and vinegar to.

933
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 5: Her big like double fridge, Like she's like just.

934
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 2: One more, just just a little, a little snack, like

935
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 2: I get these.

936
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 4: For the boys, vinegar on cheese, vinegar cheese, white bread.

937
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 5: Okay. Do you think that she's like doing her home

938
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 5: coffee in like a tumbler that she's putting in her car.

939
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,479
Speaker 2: Stanley, but not a Stanley like some other She's ringing

940
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: a mug in the car.

941
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh, just open top mug in the car.

942
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: And driving with one hit mug from the cabinet right

943
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 2: in the car.

944
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 4: That's really Italian.

945
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 5: You don't think it's thermos. She's gonna risk spilling coffee

946
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 5: all over her leather.

947
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 4: Interior beautiful escalade.

948
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 5: Yes, I do.

949
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 3: I see her with it?

950
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 4: Did she live? I mean, obviously all the furniture in

951
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 4: her house is casket.

952
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 5: Darky casket.

953
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 4: Would it's clean as fucking there.

954
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 5: I want you to bury me in this cabinet.

955
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 4: She's writing a thriller and then it's just windexing everything.

956
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 2: And I bet there's little stuffed animals, like maybe one

957
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 2: of the spare bedrooms has like a bunch of bears,

958
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: or like a heart pillow, like something very.

959
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 5: Like do you have an Italian girl that has a

960
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 5: lot of little teddy bears? Everything?

961
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: I had like a family friend growing up who had

962
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 2: a room like that, and they're all hard, stiff as.

963
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 3: Hard pink my dream like as a little girl, I

964
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, I want to go in

965
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 3: that room.

966
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 5: But then.

967
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 4: And then you're just moving hard bear to hard bears.

968
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 2: I guess it's just there to look at it.

969
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 4: Prince Andrew, because I watched that like Netflix movie that

970
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 4: he had like a hundred stuff little bears on his bed.

971
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 5: Huh, just so creepy. That's why he's a pedophile. Yeah, okay,

972
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 5: but I have tons of animals.

973
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 3: Uh huh, huh huh.

974
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 4: They're soft. She totally soft.

975
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 5: If you have heart set fanimly is your po there's

976
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 5: off your shelf.

977
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 4: Okay, the favorite game or last question? Who are you

978
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 4: in the book?

979
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 5: My god?

980
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 4: I know, I mean so many good ones.

981
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 5: You know what, I'm not having the members only party

982
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 5: after accently.

983
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 6: None of us is like Kevin Gevara or whatever, who

984
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 6: like ran over a twelve year old and didn't notice.

985
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

986
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 6: I also think the members only thing that was her

987
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 6: insulting because like all of her and her men, they

988
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 6: wore fine Italian suits or comfortable jeans, and I feel

989
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 6: like the members only is her being like they're like

990
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 6: not mafia Italians.

991
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 4: They're they're fake.

992
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they're.

993
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 4: These kind of just basic Italians and their members only.

994
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 5: Yeah.

995
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 4: I think you're thinking, Victoria, I think yeah, yeah.

996
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 5: And you're loyal, You're very, very loyal.

997
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 4: But you're very creative like her, super creative.

998
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 5: You're a very fun writer. You have an extremely story

999
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 5: career that goes in many different directions. However, you can

1000
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 5: also have a wall that is up. You've noticed, and

1001
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 5: maybe you need to maybe you need to let those

1002
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 5: walls down a little bit. I'll try my best. And

1003
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 5: you love your dad and you're an insane you love.

1004
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 3: My dad, and I am a daddy's girl, and you're.

1005
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 5: Sitting in his lap right now actually, yeah, and on

1006
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 5: the cover of your memoir. It's only just gonna be you, Okay, Lily,

1007
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 5: you're like Jimmy the Chine of Gone Today, or you

1008
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 5: Anthony gas Pipe.

1009
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 3: Or Young Gotdie Young John.

1010
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, am I Young John.

1011
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 2: He was spunky, you know, a little spunkier.

1012
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 4: He had something to.

1013
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 6: Prove, young John before kind of it all got to

1014
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 6: his head. Yeah, and you know I'm not I'm not

1015
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:12,919
Speaker 6: Sammy the Bull.

1016
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 5: No, you're not a rat.

1017
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 4: No, I'm not a rat.

1018
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 3: Maybe you're Sammy the Bull.

1019
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 5: You fucking run.

1020
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 4: For the FBI. I don't think you would squeal that much.

1021
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 3: No you Maybe I am Sammy the Bull.

1022
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 4: Maybe I wouldn't squeal.

1023
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: I would never work, really, even to protect your family. Yeah,

1024
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 2: they don't have a choice. It's that or the Clinkers.

1025
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 5: I guess. Yeah, I mean in that case, listen, you

1026
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 5: know I never squeal. Okay, and I have done time

1027
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 5: to protect others.

1028
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 2: Well, that's a good thing.

1029
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 3: You prove yourself, you learned about you go to the

1030
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 3: clinker come out.

1031
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 2: He only wanted guys who had already been in prison

1032
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 2: on his team because he wanted to see that they

1033
00:50:58,440 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 2: could withstand that.

1034
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've done I think you're Sammy the fucking book.

1035
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 5: Oh my god, you have.

1036
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 4: A fucking rack you.

1037
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 5: It's a witch hunt over here. It's a witch hunt.

1038
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 4: I know who you speaking to. I found a tape

1039
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 4: recorder in your laundry.

1040
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 5: Yes, all right, listen. I give this book three out

1041
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 5: of five.

1042
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 2: Like, because that's how many pages your head.

1043
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 5: A character assassination going on right now is vile after

1044
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 5: what I did for you, after everything I've done, I

1045
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 5: need to hook.

1046
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,439
Speaker 4: You up with the library card. I know gay guys

1047
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 4: aren't a love to the library cards.

1048
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 5: Culturely, it's not a thing. We just don't let them.

1049
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 6: No.

1050
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 4: I give this book also, maybe three point five. I'm

1051
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 4: a bloody, bloody.

1052
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 5: I just would have liked a little more about her.

1053
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 4: I want more Victoria.

1054
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I give it three dances with Daddy.

1055
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 5: That he is unable to.

1056
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 4: Don't embarrass me and from fifteen hundred people in our beach. Yeah, Victoria,

1057
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 4: we want more you. Okay, Yeah, blah blah blah. There's

1058
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 4: enough written about John.

1059
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really surprising.

1060
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1061
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 2: I was getting a little upset in the beginning, and

1062
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 2: then it goes from the dad story, then she starts

1063
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 2: talking about them.

1064
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 3: I really don't care about the mom.

1065
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 4: Being like, and then John Junior got a wrestler for racketeering.

1066
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 4: You're like, what about you? Where were you? What are

1067
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 4: you doing every day? When did you die?

1068
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 5: Your haird blonde? Yeah?

1069
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 4: Yes, she's beautiful, stunning. Victoria, Come on the.

1070
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 5: Pod, Victoria, come in my mouth more like this has been.

1071
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 5: Thank you so much for sharing your culture with us.

1072
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 4: Thank you for having me and allowing me to speak

1073
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 4: about the life.

1074
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 5: About the life. Tell our listeners where they can find you,

1075
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 5: and by that I mean tell them your address so much.

1076
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 4: This podcast was pretty by Darby Little Ann Chovy Masters

1077
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 4: makes She rest in Hell in Atlantic Beach, Long Islands.

1078
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 5: Our supervising producer was a Boo on his knees Afar

1079
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 5: who died as he lived on his knees. Celebrity book

1080
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 5: Club was executive produced by Christina the Bull ever.

1081
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 6: It thehime song to this podcast was made by Stephen

1082
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 6: Schnitzelo Phillips Horst, the only made German in the life.

1083
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 5: A graphic design was done by Teddy two tone Blanks

1084
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 5: who only uses two colors.

1085
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 4: His mother makes the best cookies in Ozone Park. Of course,

1086
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 4: she is now deceased, God rest her soul. She is

1087
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 4: buried at Saint John Cemetery.

1088
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 5: The show was originally created in coats with Prologue Projects.

1089
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 5: We are no longer affiliated with. Good luck to them,

1090
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 5: I wish them the best. Please rate and review the pod.

1091
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 5: You're gonna go over to iTunes, you're gonna pull it

1092
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 5: up on your mother's iPad, and you're gonna write in

1093
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 5: several lines about what you think it's fun, what you

1094
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 5: liked about it. Don't write what you didn't like. Nobody

1095
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 5: wants to hee that. That's not for the public. It's

1096
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 5: for yourself. It's for your friends. You can text them

1097
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 5: that and your little messages on this. You write what

1098
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 5: you like, you write good things, put in five stars,

1099
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,399
Speaker 5: and you put it out there because if you don't,

1100
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 5: it's cartons for all of us.

1101
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 4: Sleep with the fishes.

1102
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 5: Get out of here.

1103
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 4: You guys are on fire.