WEBVTT - NYC Water: An Engineering Marvel

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<v Speaker 1>Cuckoo Seattle. We're coming to see you. Yes, and your

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<v Speaker 1>little horn announcement is one of my favorite things that

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<v Speaker 1>you do because I know it means we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do a live show. And in this case, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to the great state of Washington, the greatest city in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, Seattle, at the greatest theater in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>The more the more we're going back. It's like our

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<v Speaker 1>home away from home in Seattle. We're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>there Thursday, January six, and tickets are already on sale

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<v Speaker 1>and they're going like like uh Washington hot cakes fast. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're going like chew car cherries. And you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to save the few bucks, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you can even go to the box office there buy

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<v Speaker 1>them without those internet fees. Yes, Or if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>care and you just want to buy them on the internet,

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<v Speaker 1>you can go to s y s K live dot

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<v Speaker 1>com and follow the links there and it will take

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<v Speaker 1>you right to the beautiful ticket site. And also, f

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<v Speaker 1>y I, if you go to buy tickets in person,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to go to the box office of the

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<v Speaker 1>Paramount Theater downtown, not the more the Paramount. We'll see

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<v Speaker 1>you guys in January. Welcome to Stuff You Should Know,

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<v Speaker 1>a production of My Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles

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<v Speaker 1>so Be, Chuck Bryant, There's guest producer Andrew. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff you Should Know. Let's get this a I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>about this one. This was your your pick and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, what is Chuck talking about? Were you really yes?

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<v Speaker 1>And then Chuck I happened to stumble upon I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what I was looking for, but an email from

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who sent like a Google doc or something that's

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<v Speaker 1>that was a list of episodes we said we should do,

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<v Speaker 1>and people have said those in before, but this one

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of condensed and that was on there. So

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<v Speaker 1>I've I've stumbled upon your dirty little secret. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that's where I got it. Oh really, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think so. But maybe I just know that I am

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<v Speaker 1>always fascinated by not only New York City, but by

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that New York City functions with that many

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<v Speaker 1>people and all that everything. It's just all amazing to

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<v Speaker 1>me that that city functions with that many people, that

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<v Speaker 1>many buildings, that like I want to do an episode

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<v Speaker 1>on trash removal. Okay, I want to do one on

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<v Speaker 1>on wastewater treatment. Yeah, oh yeah, that's just New York

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<v Speaker 1>in general. That's been long brewing. Are you okay with that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Just just I mean we can mention New York or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Big thanks to Dave Rouse, though, one of our great writers.

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<v Speaker 1>They put this together and it's really really fascinating. Dave's

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<v Speaker 1>just an amazing human. All of our writers are amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. Dave is great as well. He's one of

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<v Speaker 1>a few select amazing people. Right. So, um, the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why New York, why anybody would ask about New York's

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<v Speaker 1>water is because if you've ever interacted with the New Yorker,

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<v Speaker 1>they talk about their water a lot. It's like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a thing in New York where they're like, our

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<v Speaker 1>tap water is the best water in the country, and

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<v Speaker 1>they have like a lot of um stuff to back

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<v Speaker 1>that up with, and so much so that that that

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<v Speaker 1>they say this this water is actually the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>our bagels and our pizza are so good. Yeah, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>We were both just there for our final shows of

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<v Speaker 1>the year at the Bellhouse. Thanks for people who came out.

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<v Speaker 1>They were great, a lot of fun and by the

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<v Speaker 1>way the guy that fell asleep on the front row

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<v Speaker 1>on night number two, I think it was nine number two.

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<v Speaker 1>I was walking down the street and he randomly passed

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<v Speaker 1>by driving in a car and rolled down his window

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<v Speaker 1>and said, hey man. He said great show the other night, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I was waiting for him to say, is that

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<v Speaker 1>Freedom Rock? And I said thanks dude. I was like

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<v Speaker 1>front row And he was so excited that I remember

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<v Speaker 1>front Row and he drove on before I had a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to say, you fell asleep. He's like, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I was there. Maybe I felt like a dream too,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but um, we were just there. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there are many many restaurants in New York where there

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<v Speaker 1>will be like a water cooler or a place where

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<v Speaker 1>you can help yourself to your own cup of water,

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<v Speaker 1>and it will have a big sign on it that

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<v Speaker 1>says New York City tap water and proud all caps

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<v Speaker 1>underlined letters yeah, and and they mean like they're just

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<v Speaker 1>getting water out of the tap, Whereas in other cities

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<v Speaker 1>that's a dirty, shameful secret that people don't talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>In New York, they proudly boast about it. And um,

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<v Speaker 1>that just the fact that New York or any New

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<v Speaker 1>Yorker in the city gets water at all is pretty spectacular.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you said, there's a lot of people, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of buildings, and something like more than a

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<v Speaker 1>billion gallon ends of water flow into New York through

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<v Speaker 1>the taps every day, I said day with the d yes.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the largest water system in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>People from all over the world government officials fly in

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<v Speaker 1>and take meetings with the New York City water people

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<v Speaker 1>just to see, like, how have you done it? They're

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<v Speaker 1>just a goog how could we do better? So so

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<v Speaker 1>that's impressive enough that a billion, more than a billion

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<v Speaker 1>gallons of water is delivered every day to New Yorkers

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<v Speaker 1>pretty great. But the idea that you can just drink

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<v Speaker 1>it straight from the tap and it is unfiltered, that

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<v Speaker 1>is a truly impressive feat. Yeah. And by unfiltered, we

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<v Speaker 1>mean of the water is unfiltered and ten is filtered. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And you might say, look, how can you just filter

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<v Speaker 1>of the water. Well, it comes from different places. So

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<v Speaker 1>of the water comes from two places, two watersheds that

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<v Speaker 1>combined are called the Catskill Delaware Watershed or water system

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<v Speaker 1>I think um and then the other one from the

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<v Speaker 1>Crow Croton. I always want to say crow towing, but

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<v Speaker 1>from the Croton Reservoir, that ten percent is actually filtering.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get into all of that, but of New York's

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<v Speaker 1>water is not It doesn't go through a filtering process,

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<v Speaker 1>and that makes New York one of only five major

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<v Speaker 1>cities in the United States to get a waiver from

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<v Speaker 1>the e p A that says your water is so

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<v Speaker 1>deliciously pure and delightful that you don't need to filter it.

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<v Speaker 1>Um Almost every other city has to have a filtering

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<v Speaker 1>process before it gets delivered to taps. That's right. And

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<v Speaker 1>the other four naturally Seattle, Portland, or against San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 1>The one that's a bit of a surprise is Boston, Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 1>What that's that's that's how surprising it is, Chuck. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk a little bit about the history of

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<v Speaker 1>New York in their water, because back in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>we've always talked about how what a disgusting, disease ridden

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<v Speaker 1>poop and horse urine ridden place New York City was. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like supposedly there was a good twelve inches of horse

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<v Speaker 1>maneuver on the street at all times before they before

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<v Speaker 1>they really started cleaning their place up. It's pretty bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was in the Wynn Chries Typhoid Merry episode,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a great one. Another great New York episode.

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<v Speaker 1>So if we're talking New Amsterdam, pre New York City. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they got water where you would think from ponds and

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<v Speaker 1>natural springs, underwater springs, and they had a forty eight

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<v Speaker 1>acre pond it's about sixty ft deep, uh in Tribeca

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<v Speaker 1>what is now Tribeca called the Collect and also the

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<v Speaker 1>little Collect that was just south of there. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>that name comes from the Dutch word kulk, which means

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<v Speaker 1>small body of water. And the Collect was where they

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<v Speaker 1>got their water for a long time. And of the

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<v Speaker 1>city let Uh, some tanners built a tannery on the

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<v Speaker 1>shores of the not smart New York which ruined everything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because it started to get polluted. They also were able

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<v Speaker 1>to drill wells and stuff around places where people pooped

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<v Speaker 1>and pete and then dumped their poop and pee. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a dirty, dirty place. Because this is pretty

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<v Speaker 1>germ theory, or at least around the time the germ

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<v Speaker 1>theory was being developed and people didn't understand it. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it was our great stink episode where

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<v Speaker 1>they traced to cholera epidemic to a public well, um

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<v Speaker 1>a public water pump. John Snow, if I remember correctly,

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<v Speaker 1>did that, and this would have been around the time

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<v Speaker 1>that New Yorkers were suffering from cholera epidemics, one of

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<v Speaker 1>which took place, and they think the eighteen thirties, eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirty two. It killed thirty New Yorkers and that was

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<v Speaker 1>a substantial amount of of the population at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and another hundred thousand New Yorkers had to flee just

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<v Speaker 1>to get away from this caller epidemic. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>because their sewage and their water was coexisting in very

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<v Speaker 1>unhealthy ways. So New York said, maybe we should try

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<v Speaker 1>something else. Let's look a little further outside the city

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<v Speaker 1>where we're dumping our waists and everything, and see if

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<v Speaker 1>we can get our water from there. And they did.

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<v Speaker 1>They built the Croton Reservoir. They dammed the river and

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<v Speaker 1>reservoir collected and they said, now we have some beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>pure water. We will never need to do anything again

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<v Speaker 1>to get our water. That's right. Previous to that, though,

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<v Speaker 1>in the eighteenth century, they had these public pumps like

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<v Speaker 1>you were talking about on street corners about every four

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<v Speaker 1>blocks or so a big wooden pump where you would

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<v Speaker 1>get your water from uh underground underground streams and springs

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. But there were only a few of these

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<v Speaker 1>that actually delivered good water. A lot of it was

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<v Speaker 1>really brackish and gross tasting. And Americans and early European

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<v Speaker 1>settlers obviously loved their tea, and so they marked this

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<v Speaker 1>was almost like an early yelp or whatever. They had

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<v Speaker 1>these pumps that actually delivered the like the two or

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<v Speaker 1>three good pumps in the city that delivered good water

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<v Speaker 1>labeled tea water pumps, but like it was good enough

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<v Speaker 1>to use for tea, good enough to use for making

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<v Speaker 1>good tea, and so they would go to these tea

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<v Speaker 1>water pumps. You would have to buy the water. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>The best one was apparently at Chathaman Roosevelt there was

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<v Speaker 1>another and sort of what the Lower East Side is

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<v Speaker 1>today that was a good tea water pump. And this

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<v Speaker 1>worked out for a long time until uh, the uh

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<v Speaker 1>the collect and all this stuff it started to sort

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<v Speaker 1>of um get nasty and stinky, and so they built

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<v Speaker 1>a canal to channel that water into the river. Like that,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta get rid of it and drain this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So they build this canal forty ft wide, they channel it.

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<v Speaker 1>Right after they finish it, this canal begins to sink

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<v Speaker 1>and in one it got so bad. The smell was

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<v Speaker 1>so bad that they eventually just covered up the canal.

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<v Speaker 1>And guess what that became. I don't know, Central Park,

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<v Speaker 1>Canal Street. Oh, how about that? So stupid? How wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even in the right part of the city. We've even

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<v Speaker 1>done an episode on Central Park and that wouldn't forget it. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Canal Street obviously, that's where Canal Street came from. There

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<v Speaker 1>was literally a canal and then eventually an underground sewage

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<v Speaker 1>system under running under Canal Street. Uh. And there's another

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<v Speaker 1>cool little tidbit if you want, like your little New

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<v Speaker 1>York history, if you like to walk around on subways

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<v Speaker 1>and tell people about cool things. Um. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>first public reservoirs in the city was dug by Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Burr and his Manhattan company, and that didn't work out.

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<v Speaker 1>They transported it through wooden logs as pipes bury beneath

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<v Speaker 1>the city. Somebody found a piece of that wooden log.

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<v Speaker 1>It's in one of the museums up there. Now, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>no way, Yeah, that is very cool. But the water

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<v Speaker 1>didn't taste great and it didn't work out for Aaron Burr,

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<v Speaker 1>so he uh change. He still kept the Manhattan Company,

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<v Speaker 1>but he got into banking, and the Manhattan Company he

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<v Speaker 1>became Chase Manhattan Bank. I saw somewhere that that was

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<v Speaker 1>his aim all along, that the water thing was just

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<v Speaker 1>basically a fleece to raise money to found the lake,

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<v Speaker 1>and that that's why the water was so shoddy and

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<v Speaker 1>the delivery was so shoddy. But what they were selling

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<v Speaker 1>was so bad supposedly the horses wouldn't even drink it,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was a scam. It was basically a scam.

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Burr was not the greatest historical American shot Alexander

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<v Speaker 1>Hamilton's I know that that's enough right there, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>then also scammed a bunch of people out of their

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<v Speaker 1>their um water investment, because I mean, if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to invest in a bank, you want to invest in

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<v Speaker 1>a bank. If you want to invest in a water outfit,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to invest in a water outfit. You want

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<v Speaker 1>people to be above the boards with stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's my tirade. So you mentioned the Croton

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<v Speaker 1>Dam and the Croton Reservoir. I want to say crotone

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Uh, that became and that aqueduct became operational

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<v Speaker 1>and things were okay, but then a tragedy struck with

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<v Speaker 1>the Great Fire of eighteen thirty five. Yes, which actually

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that the Great Fire took place right before

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<v Speaker 1>the reservoir was open, which is why the Great bad. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So in eighteen thirty five, Uh, in on a night

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<v Speaker 1>in December, a warehouse caught fire and it just leveled

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<v Speaker 1>Lower Manhattan, like just destroyed something like, um, seventeen city blocks,

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<v Speaker 1>fifty acres of the most densely populated part of New

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<v Speaker 1>York at the time, and um, luckily only two people died.

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<v Speaker 1>Two is too too many, But considering that it was

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen city blocks that got reduced to ash, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>bad actually, especially considering that the way that they ended

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<v Speaker 1>up fighting this fire was by setting buildings on the

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<v Speaker 1>perimeter on fire because they didn't have the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>water that they needed. Yeah, that the reason for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just sort of really bad luck. There were

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<v Speaker 1>two smaller fires that drained our hour. Like I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>New Yorker, listen to me, You're an honorary New Yorker.

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<v Speaker 1>I would guess it drained the cisterns, the reserve cisterns

0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:09.800
<v Speaker 1>that they had, and because of those two smaller fires,

0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.320
<v Speaker 1>they didn't have enough to fight the Great Fire. And

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<v Speaker 1>the long and short of all of this is New

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<v Speaker 1>York said, we got to really speed up this Croton

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<v Speaker 1>Reservoir work. Yep, and they did. And so the Croton

0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Reservoir was brought online in the middle of the nineteenth

0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:26.640
<v Speaker 1>century and they had a big old parade and everything, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and it delivered something like ninety million gallons of delicious

0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:35.880
<v Speaker 1>pure water to New York. Um in the in the

0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:38.120
<v Speaker 1>middle of the nineteenth century was a really big deal

0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:40.720
<v Speaker 1>and it worked really well for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, there was also they built the murray Hill

0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Reservoir so the the the Croton Reservoir would be where

0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.440
<v Speaker 1>the water collected up state. And then they build an

0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:53.800
<v Speaker 1>aqueduct system which is still around in parts today and

0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:57.760
<v Speaker 1>elevated aqueduct to what's called the murray Hill Reservoir, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a four acre above ground swimming pool. Basically, it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool if you look at pictures. Yeah, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it was like a real um spot in the city.

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<v Speaker 1>While it was around, I think something. Untill eighty two,

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<v Speaker 1>it was around and people used to take strolls around

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<v Speaker 1>it and make paintings of it and that kind of thing.

0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:20.200
<v Speaker 1>And it is where the New York Public Library is

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<v Speaker 1>now today, where the Ghostbusters did some of their early work.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, right, but the the it worked really well

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<v Speaker 1>for for you know, the time. But then as New

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<v Speaker 1>York grew and grew and grew, it became very painfully

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<v Speaker 1>obvious yet again that New York had outgrown its water supply. Yeah,

0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:42.240
<v Speaker 1>they needed more water. Ninety million gallons a day wasn't enough. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And then what made matters worse was New York City

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<v Speaker 1>officially made it a declaration that we are now not

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<v Speaker 1>just Lower Manhattan. Of course, they didn't call Lower Manhattan

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. That was just sort of where the

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<v Speaker 1>city ended. They called it Manahatta Manhatta. I saw that episode,

0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:02.800
<v Speaker 1>by the way, it was one of the better ones ever,

0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:06.040
<v Speaker 1>which one of think of what we do in the dark,

0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:09.880
<v Speaker 1>that's right where they go to party in Manhattan. Man

0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:13.080
<v Speaker 1>I had a um, what we do in the shadows?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, um, so stupid, that's all right. The

0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:22.520
<v Speaker 1>five boroughs were included in officially, so New York um

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<v Speaker 1>and the water needed to get to the people was

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<v Speaker 1>officially uh grown to more than three million people by

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<v Speaker 1>the time the century turned right, which is just precious today.

0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Three million New Yorkers, Oh my gosh, they do. So

0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:38.320
<v Speaker 1>they started to look up state again because they had

0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:41.680
<v Speaker 1>hit upon like a pretty good idea. The city is

0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:44.720
<v Speaker 1>is a cess pool. Um, we need our water from

0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:47.720
<v Speaker 1>outside of the cess pool. And they started looking up state.

0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:50.040
<v Speaker 1>So this time they looked up to the cat Skills

0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:53.200
<v Speaker 1>and they found two watersheds, which we did an episode

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<v Speaker 1>on watersheds that I would love to forget, but it

0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:58.400
<v Speaker 1>came up just now. I thought it was good. Oh man,

0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:00.720
<v Speaker 1>it was horrendous. What was it? Yes, I thought it

0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:05.280
<v Speaker 1>was terrible and boring January. I don't remember when it

0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:06.919
<v Speaker 1>came out. Like I said, I tried to forget that

0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.639
<v Speaker 1>it ever happened. I thought it was pretty good. But anyway, So,

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<v Speaker 1>a watershed is basically a specific topographical air area where rain, snow,

0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:21.359
<v Speaker 1>whatever precipitation falls down into this area and is delivered

0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:25.879
<v Speaker 1>to a specific creek, river stream, something like that that

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<v Speaker 1>eventually and empties into like a lake or a reservoir

0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:31.800
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. So there's two watersheds, the Delaware

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<v Speaker 1>and the Catskill Watershed that put together create something like

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<v Speaker 1>um two thousand square miles of water catching goodness, and

0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:44.720
<v Speaker 1>it delivers it to a number of different reservoirs. And

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<v Speaker 1>that is now today where New York gets like its water. Yeah.

0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:51.280
<v Speaker 1>So you know, obviously they had too damn up rivers

0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:54.679
<v Speaker 1>to create these reservoirs. And this all happened to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in the early nineteen hundreds. And then finally they were like, great,

0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:01.480
<v Speaker 1>We've got all these reservoirs and the skills. But let

0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:04.480
<v Speaker 1>me remind you, we're on the lower eas side of Manhattan,

0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:09.719
<v Speaker 1>surrounded by horse, hearon and and poop. We need our

0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:12.560
<v Speaker 1>fresh water. How do we get it here? So in

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<v Speaker 1>the engineers of New York City completed the ninety two

0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:23.480
<v Speaker 1>mile cat Skill Aqueduct, which is amazing. It's basically a

0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:29.480
<v Speaker 1>big concrete tunnel that sends water two miles from the

0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:32.359
<v Speaker 1>cats Skills down to New York. It's as wide as

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<v Speaker 1>thirty feet in some places. It is not a tunnel

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<v Speaker 1>the entire length as we will see here in a minute.

0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:42.160
<v Speaker 1>Not a continuous tunnel. I'm not sure what that means.

0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:45.280
<v Speaker 1>What is it just like open. So there's parts of

0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:48.159
<v Speaker 1>it that aren't technically a tunnel in that it's a

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<v Speaker 1>covered trench. They cut a trench and then they covered

0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:52.959
<v Speaker 1>it back up, which I don't know how you do that,

0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:57.600
<v Speaker 1>but it's not technically a tunnel like a circle or tube. Interesting,

0:18:57.720 --> 0:18:59.240
<v Speaker 1>And here is to me one of the facts of

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<v Speaker 1>the show. You get this water down there in the

0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:05.119
<v Speaker 1>aqueduct and you get to the Hudson River, and what

0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:09.000
<v Speaker 1>are you gonna do? You gotta go under it. To me,

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<v Speaker 1>it just be like just pump it in the Hudson

0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:13.960
<v Speaker 1>and hope it comes out the other side. But then

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<v Speaker 1>I would have gotten fired immediately when I he's no engineer,

0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:23.480
<v Speaker 1>he's a shamp he's a rapscallion. So it gets to

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<v Speaker 1>the Hudson River and then it goes way down into

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<v Speaker 1>the ground, about eleven feet below sea level and then

0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:33.880
<v Speaker 1>climbs back up the other side. And it does all

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<v Speaker 1>this via gravity. Yes, and they did that not just

0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:41.639
<v Speaker 1>to show off, but because they decided. I read this awesome,

0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:44.240
<v Speaker 1>you know how I'm always like read the contemporary articles.

0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:47.640
<v Speaker 1>I read one from seven where they were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the construction of the aqueduct and they said that the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why they were going down that far is because

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to hit bedrock because it would be fisher free,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning there would be no leakage and they could just

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<v Speaker 1>pumped the water through the hole that they board in

0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:04.200
<v Speaker 1>the bedrock. Well. They thought the bedrock was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be about five feet down, and by seven when they

0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:11.040
<v Speaker 1>wrote the Scientific American article, they'd reached like seven feet

0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:13.400
<v Speaker 1>still hadn't hit it. It ended up being like eleven

0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:17.280
<v Speaker 1>hundred feet below sea level where they finally hit bedrock.

0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:19.480
<v Speaker 1>And that's why they had to drill so far down.

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<v Speaker 1>And they drilled a tunnel, a vertical shaft from the

0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:29.240
<v Speaker 1>from the Hudson down to that tunnel, and they built

0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:33.359
<v Speaker 1>like a tube to pressurize it. So the water even

0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:37.040
<v Speaker 1>feet under the Hudson is that like fifteen tons per

0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:40.480
<v Speaker 1>square foot of pressure, which also helps. But the fact

0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:42.639
<v Speaker 1>that there's no pumps or anything, it's all gravity and

0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:46.760
<v Speaker 1>pressure driven. Yes, And sadly though, that story has a

0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:50.639
<v Speaker 1>sad ending because it took so long that their fisher

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<v Speaker 1>free and oh three T shirts were all rendered useless.

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<v Speaker 1>What No, I don't know. That's a great joke. I'm

0:21:01.800 --> 0:21:04.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna go back and listen to it and I'll probably

0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:09.720
<v Speaker 1>think it's hilarious, So compliments on it in advance. Oh man,

0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:16.360
<v Speaker 1>that was a quality joke. Three got you? Okay, sure, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:18.399
<v Speaker 1>I got you? All right, I got you. We're all

0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:21.720
<v Speaker 1>together now, Okay, that was a pretty good joke. Uh geez.

0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:24.399
<v Speaker 1>Should we take a break after that? Yeah, all right,

0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:26.399
<v Speaker 1>let's take a break. We'll talk a little bit more

0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:47.240
<v Speaker 1>about this so called aqueduct right after this stuff you

0:21:47.240 --> 0:22:07.880
<v Speaker 1>should know, gosh and shuck stuff you should know. Okay, chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've got the Catskill Aqueduct delivering water. Um. There's

0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:17.639
<v Speaker 1>another one too, called the um the Delaware Aqueduct. And

0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:20.280
<v Speaker 1>this one actually is like a genuine tunnel. Yes, it's

0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:24.120
<v Speaker 1>eighty five miles, completed in forty four. I'm not gonna

0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:27.479
<v Speaker 1>make a T shirt joke about that, and it is

0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:32.200
<v Speaker 1>still the longest continuous tunnel in the world at eighty

0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:35.239
<v Speaker 1>five miles. And they did this all, you know, just

0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:39.080
<v Speaker 1>this digging process is amazing in and of itself, digging

0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:43.600
<v Speaker 1>these tunnels and these trenches with steam shovels and pouring

0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:46.399
<v Speaker 1>the concrete tunnel, which I was like, how do you

0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:49.600
<v Speaker 1>do that? Even you do the bottom half, let it set,

0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:52.160
<v Speaker 1>and then you do the top half and let that's set.

0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:54.959
<v Speaker 1>So they were like Charles Bronson in The Great Escape,

0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:57.879
<v Speaker 1>they were digging tunnels. Yeah, I mean we're talking like

0:22:58.000 --> 0:23:00.600
<v Speaker 1>dynamite and stuff like that. Like the really did it

0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:03.160
<v Speaker 1>the old school way to build these aqueducts, and they're

0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:06.040
<v Speaker 1>still in use today, so much so that there's there's

0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:09.280
<v Speaker 1>three tunnels. Tunnel number one and tunnel number two have

0:23:09.359 --> 0:23:12.800
<v Speaker 1>been in operation since nineteen seventeen and nineteen thirty six.

0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:17.520
<v Speaker 1>They've never stopped operating. They've never been stopped up and

0:23:17.640 --> 0:23:21.080
<v Speaker 1>drained and inspected in over a hundred years. For tunnel

0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:24.520
<v Speaker 1>number one, Yeah, I think the current memo going around

0:23:24.600 --> 0:23:28.280
<v Speaker 1>is I'm sure it's fine. Well, so they're building tunnel

0:23:28.400 --> 0:23:31.480
<v Speaker 1>number three, and they decided to start building tunnel number

0:23:31.480 --> 0:23:34.919
<v Speaker 1>three nineteen fifty four. They actually started in nineteen seventy.

0:23:34.960 --> 0:23:38.480
<v Speaker 1>They are still not done with Tunnel number three. Parts

0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:41.480
<v Speaker 1>of it are online, and when it does fully come online,

0:23:41.800 --> 0:23:44.679
<v Speaker 1>tunnel number three will have a capacity enough so that

0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:48.280
<v Speaker 1>they can individually stop and drain and inspect and repair

0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Tunnel number one and then eventually tunnel number two. Tunnel

0:23:51.840 --> 0:23:54.919
<v Speaker 1>number three. Yeah, tonnel tunnel number three will will save

0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:57.560
<v Speaker 1>the other two. And it's good that they're doing it now.

0:23:57.600 --> 0:24:00.240
<v Speaker 1>But I saw that it's gonna be fully operation all

0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:05.720
<v Speaker 1>in one. They think, so we're almost there. Almost man. Yeah,

0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:10.320
<v Speaker 1>it's the New York's longest running municipal project. Uh five

0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:13.560
<v Speaker 1>billion dollar price tags so far and counting, I guess.

0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:17.440
<v Speaker 1>And then those three tunnels are two, and however many

0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:22.720
<v Speaker 1>parts of three are working deliver one point three gallons

0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:28.160
<v Speaker 1>of water a day through a network of mainz and

0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:34.360
<v Speaker 1>then individual pipes leading to apartments and homes and businesses

0:24:35.080 --> 0:24:38.200
<v Speaker 1>and skyscrapers, and all of those pipes, if you total

0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:42.720
<v Speaker 1>them up, would lay out about seven thousand miles. That's

0:24:42.760 --> 0:24:45.240
<v Speaker 1>pretty impressive. I would also like to point out that

0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I think you met one point three billion gallons? Would

0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I say? One point three gallons? Really? Which should be

0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:55.360
<v Speaker 1>hilarious that they went to all this trouble, spend all

0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:58.120
<v Speaker 1>this money and they're like, we can crank out one

0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:02.040
<v Speaker 1>three gallons a day, New York. Gather around and get

0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:05.120
<v Speaker 1>your water. I was still thinking about my T shirt joke.

0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:09.359
<v Speaker 1>It's a good joke. And here's the kicker to another

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:12.119
<v Speaker 1>great fact of the show. Only five of all of

0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:16.080
<v Speaker 1>the city's water relies on pumps to get to its

0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:19.720
<v Speaker 1>final destination, which it means your tap. It's pretty awesome. Yeah,

0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:22.600
<v Speaker 1>so that means that it can't break down or if

0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:25.520
<v Speaker 1>something does happen, they still have things like gravity to

0:25:25.720 --> 0:25:29.879
<v Speaker 1>help things along. It's great. So um. The reason why

0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 1>the e p A gave New York a um a

0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:35.920
<v Speaker 1>waiver and said you don't have to filter the water

0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:38.600
<v Speaker 1>coming from the cat skill in the Delaware water sheds

0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:42.399
<v Speaker 1>is because because Juliani Greece, the palms of the e

0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:46.240
<v Speaker 1>p A. Exactly it started well, it started out is

0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:50.679
<v Speaker 1>so pure and pristine and just great um water to

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:53.920
<v Speaker 1>begin with, but they have taken steps along the way

0:25:53.960 --> 0:25:56.639
<v Speaker 1>to ensure that it stayed that way. Because one of

0:25:56.640 --> 0:26:00.560
<v Speaker 1>the things that happened with the Croton Reservoir is development

0:26:00.600 --> 0:26:03.399
<v Speaker 1>was allowed to grow up around it. Um, agriculture was

0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:07.280
<v Speaker 1>allowed to pollute it. Um. It just got it turned.

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:09.159
<v Speaker 1>And after that the e p A, I think in

0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:12.760
<v Speaker 1>the nineties the late nineties, said yep, you guys have

0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 1>to start filtering that water. It's no longer unfilterable. Um.

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:19.560
<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's not drinkable as is. So they had

0:26:19.640 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 1>to start filtering. It used to be a hundred percent

0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:26.320
<v Speaker 1>of New York's water was unfiltered that Croton Reservoir now

0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 1>is ten percent that is filtered. But but so they

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:32.640
<v Speaker 1>learned a valuable lesson from that, and now they're very

0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:37.239
<v Speaker 1>proactive in keeping the Delaware and cat Skill Reservoir or

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 1>um watershed water from becoming corrupted by things like development

0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:45.840
<v Speaker 1>and agriculture. Yeah. And but you know, the lesson they

0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:48.840
<v Speaker 1>learned is money. Because you might be thinking, like, what's

0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:51.120
<v Speaker 1>a big deal, why don't they just filter all of it.

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:53.119
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot cheaper to take care of the land

0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:55.600
<v Speaker 1>and make sure you never have to filter it than

0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 1>to install a filtering plant. Yeah, because they estimate that

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:02.360
<v Speaker 1>a filtering plant would cost something like ten billion dollars

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:04.440
<v Speaker 1>up front and then a hundred million dollars a year

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 1>to operate. New York is spending something like one billion

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 1>dollars every several years to protect them, the Delaware and

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:16.040
<v Speaker 1>the Catskill watersheds. So it is an enormous investment. But

0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:20.000
<v Speaker 1>also it's great because it's natural water that's unfiltered. Yeah.

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:21.800
<v Speaker 1>And you know, they do this in a number of ways,

0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:25.920
<v Speaker 1>aside from buying up the land, which was a good

0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:29.160
<v Speaker 1>move and making sure nothing happens to it. Yep. So,

0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:31.920
<v Speaker 1>so New York City owns a lot of land up state.

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Just y Yeah, it's a lot of land. Um, not

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:41.080
<v Speaker 1>forty percent of New York State, but the property around

0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 1>the Catskill and Delaware water sheds. They also did things like, hey,

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:48.919
<v Speaker 1>let's look at all the wastewater treatment facilities upstream, and

0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:52.240
<v Speaker 1>let's invest a lot of money in upgrading those. Um. Hey,

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:55.159
<v Speaker 1>all you people that have septic tanks that are falling apart,

0:27:55.760 --> 0:28:01.640
<v Speaker 1>that matters. So we're gonna reimburse you homeowners. Yeah that's impressive. Yeah,

0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 1>install a new septic tank and we're gonna pay for it. Um.

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 1>They remove dead trees, they replace those with little sapling

0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:12.720
<v Speaker 1>trees who apparently have roots that are young and can

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:15.480
<v Speaker 1>absorb a lot of harmful nutrients from that rain water.

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:19.639
<v Speaker 1>And here's another good fact of the show. Some of

0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 1>the water from those reservoirs or from that that watershed

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 1>can take up to a full year to make its

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:27.919
<v Speaker 1>way down to the tap that you're drinking out of.

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:30.000
<v Speaker 1>That's a good one. I like that one. It's almost

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 1>like the how long it takes sunlight to reach us,

0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 1>and we're going to say that it's the same thing.

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:37.240
<v Speaker 1>It's the same thing. They also, did you talk about

0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 1>um farmers? The only difference between those stats is you

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 1>don't have to explain what a photon is. You can

0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:45.480
<v Speaker 1>just say water, it's a tiny packet of light. It's

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 1>the the carrier of electromagnetic right. What did you ask

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:51.760
<v Speaker 1>right before that? Did you talk about the farmers how

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 1>they train farmers up state too? I did not, So

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 1>they say, hey, you hicks, you're gonna learn these techniques.

0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Man too. I'm just kidding. I love farmers. I would actually,

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 1>as a matter of fact, chuck when I um, when

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:10.720
<v Speaker 1>I retire, I really really want like a small working farm,

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:12.960
<v Speaker 1>very small, Like what do you want like a tenth

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 1>of an acre small? What kind of stuff do you

0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 1>want to farm? What do you want on it? Oh?

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't care? And yeah, oh yeah, some animals. But

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:23.760
<v Speaker 1>it's just you know, having pigs around not to eat

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:29.200
<v Speaker 1>or milk, but to um like basically, but to like

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 1>um to churn up like a field so that I

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 1>can plan it the next year and move the pigs

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 1>to the next part of the land. That kind of

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:40.520
<v Speaker 1>stuff for chickens to just walk around and eat their

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 1>eggs and things like that. Some chickens, some pigs, you

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 1>want some probably a couple of goats. A couple of goats.

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 1>You want some planting? You want to farm some plants

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 1>and vegetables, sure, yeah, but mainly just to have something

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:54.440
<v Speaker 1>to do, like with the earth. So I was a

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 1>hundred million percent teasing when I when I said that

0:29:58.200 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 1>New York was calling the farmers hex work. Probably did

0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:04.000
<v Speaker 1>call the farmer's hicks. But I wasn't condoning that. I

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 1>was just making a joke. Right, you're the guy who

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 1>wants a tenth of an acre one day to do

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 1>something on the ear, those pigs are gonna be like,

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:13.240
<v Speaker 1>this is some pretty tight quarters around here. Oh you

0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 1>know what else I would do? And I would need

0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 1>more of a tenth more than a tenth of an

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 1>acre for this. Raise bees. That is where I will

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 1>eventually raise bees. It's on Josh's farm. Well, brother, you

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 1>better get some land soon, because it's it's it's leaving.

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Land is leaving. Yeah, I mean it's people are buying land.

0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 1>It's there's I remember my parents looking at land when

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 1>I was like ten years old, and they didn't buy it.

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:40.360
<v Speaker 1>They said it's leaving, and it's a different deal. Now.

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot harder to find the land that you want.

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, people bought it all up. I know you

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 1>can still get it, but you gotta pay through the

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 1>nose for it. Yeah, or it's up to them if

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 1>they want to sell it or not. You know, we're

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 1>getting second right, we're getting sloppy seconds. O god, oh man,

0:30:58.000 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be one of those things that, like our

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:02.480
<v Speaker 1>younger listeners is going to be in college, smoky pot

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:04.000
<v Speaker 1>in a dorm room, and it'll just hit them what

0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 1>you just said, like fifteen years on. Oh goodness. So

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned the Croton watershed needs the filtering um and

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:16.640
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to avoid that at all costs with the

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 1>other water sheds. But the Croton water supply when they

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 1>built this filtering system, it calls three point two billion

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 1>dollars and it's under a golf course in New Jersey,

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 1>which is so appropriate. That's where the tainted water is

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:35.080
<v Speaker 1>under a golf course in Jersey and Bedminster perhaps sure,

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that is, but it sounds right.

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 1>I know some people would get that one mm hm.

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 1>New York's like, hey, you Hicks build a golf course

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 1>over this. New York just calls everybody else Hicks. And

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:49.560
<v Speaker 1>it's right they do. When we can fly in say

0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:55.480
<v Speaker 1>welcome Hicks. So, um, have we taken our second break yet? No,

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 1>we probably should though there is a good time. Okay,

0:31:57.560 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take another break and we're gonna come back

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 1>and explain what New York does due to its water

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 1>and whether or not it is a secret ingredient in

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:32.960
<v Speaker 1>bagels and pizza stuff. You should know, gosh, and shuck stuff.

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 1>You should know, alright, Chuck. So one thing that that

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna want to say. If you're a New Yorker

0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:51.080
<v Speaker 1>and you're boasting about your tap water, there are some

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 1>things you should know. Number one, it's chlorinated. Number two,

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 1>it's been run through a UV filter. Even if it

0:32:57.080 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been filtered, filtered, there's still things that are done

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 1>to it. It's not like it's coming straight out of

0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 1>the cat skills into your tap. Yeah, they take it

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 1>very seriously. Obviously. Here's a good stat In one year,

0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 1>there are more than fifteen thousand water samples taken and

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 1>analyze at the source. So this is upstream. Um, they

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:21.640
<v Speaker 1>have uh Ai well, not AI or is it ai?

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 1>There's ai involved somehow, there always is. I always ask

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:27.000
<v Speaker 1>if it's a I want to always ask you because

0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:29.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, sure, I know. Thanks to the End of

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 1>the World with Josh Clark. Oh, thanks for the plug.

0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Still available on iTunes, the I Heart Podcast app or

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 1>wherever you find your podcasts. Wow, that wasn't just a plug,

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:43.120
<v Speaker 1>that was an ad. So they have these robotic buoys

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 1>that monitored the Kinsico Reservoir, one of the reservoirs that

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 1>feeds down into New York. And uh, these things take

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 1>one point nine million measurements a year and wirelessly transmit

0:33:56.520 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 1>that back to the Department of Environment Protection in New York. Yeah,

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>which is pretty awesome. And they had a booie before,

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 1>but they had to remove it in winter because ice

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:10.279
<v Speaker 1>would mess with it. And this new one, um apparently

0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:17.360
<v Speaker 1>is ice yea. They also if you walk down the street, um,

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 1>there's something like hundred no, nine hundred and sixty five

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:26.880
<v Speaker 1>little gray boxes that if you could open up you

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 1>would find a little sink in a faucet. It's adorable.

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Maybe a little sample size of locks, often soap, and

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:39.320
<v Speaker 1>that's a water sampling station. It says ny d e P.

0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Department of Environmental Protection, and scientists walk up to these things,

0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:46.440
<v Speaker 1>unlock them and take samples and test for all sorts

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 1>of different things to make sure that the water getting

0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 1>to New York Is is good. Yeah, it says more

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 1>than that. Um, it says New York City Drinking Water

0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:58.839
<v Speaker 1>Sampling Station on the front of it. Oh wow, they

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:01.759
<v Speaker 1>really really spell out Yeah, I said fisher free and

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 1>oh three stamped down there. Uh, so that you know

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:11.040
<v Speaker 1>they're testing. They take water samples a month. I'm not

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 1>sure if you said that, but they were from these

0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:16.040
<v Speaker 1>particular stations, and they do all kinds of tests. Are

0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:22.520
<v Speaker 1>testing obviously for uh, turbidity which is cloudiness, pH chlorine, bacteria,

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 1>does it stink like all kinds of tests that they're

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:29.719
<v Speaker 1>doing right, Um, And usually the New York City water

0:35:29.840 --> 0:35:32.120
<v Speaker 1>is going to pass all these tests like it's there's

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 1>not going to be a problem. This is just a

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:36.920
<v Speaker 1>extra little quality assurance that they're doing because by the

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 1>time it reaches these testing stations, that's where it's going

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 1>to the taps anyway, it's tapping into the tap water.

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:47.719
<v Speaker 1>Basic so um that ten percent of water goes through

0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:51.279
<v Speaker 1>a couple of extra steps that is um that that

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 1>the other ninety percent doesn't go through. One of the

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:56.319
<v Speaker 1>first things it does in the treatment plan is it's

0:35:56.400 --> 0:36:00.400
<v Speaker 1>mixed with alum, which is a component of aluminum, right,

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:05.600
<v Speaker 1>And alum attracts organic compounds and basically says, rise to

0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:08.759
<v Speaker 1>the surface with me and creates flock, which is a white,

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 1>frothy sludge, and all that is just skimmed off the top.

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:15.320
<v Speaker 1>That's step one. Yeah, this sounds so gross and it is,

0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:18.200
<v Speaker 1>but like in the end, you get your good water.

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:21.759
<v Speaker 1>The next thing that happens is it flows through these

0:36:21.840 --> 0:36:25.200
<v Speaker 1>giant water filters um. Dave put it as like these

0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 1>giant britt of filters. It's essentially sort of the same thing.

0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:32.640
<v Speaker 1>And this is just gonna further purify the water, passing

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:37.040
<v Speaker 1>through layers and layers of stuff like sand, uh an, anthracite.

0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 1>And then comes the ultra violet light that you referenced earlier, right, Yes,

0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:44.560
<v Speaker 1>and a hundred percent of New York's water is sent

0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 1>through a UV filter because UV filters are really good

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:53.000
<v Speaker 1>at disrupting reproduction of bacteria um, and so all water

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:56.880
<v Speaker 1>is apped. But that n of water that's not filtered

0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:59.840
<v Speaker 1>that goes through a separate UV filtering plant that's built

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:03.280
<v Speaker 1>for those and that that's where like a billion gallons

0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 1>of water a day are z apped with UV lights.

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:09.800
<v Speaker 1>But um so all of that gets combined together eventually

0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:14.719
<v Speaker 1>and and comes out your tap and New Yorkers drink

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:18.040
<v Speaker 1>it straight fro the tap. Literally. It is very bizarre

0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:20.480
<v Speaker 1>because I don't know if it's a placebo effect or what,

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 1>but I feel like it does taste pretty good for

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 1>tap water. But at the same time, I typically don't

0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:30.720
<v Speaker 1>drink just straight tap water, so my frame of reference

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:33.320
<v Speaker 1>isn't necessarily right there. Do you want to hear something funny?

0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 1>You know what my brother's favorite water is and what

0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 1>it's probably just a bit, but he claims it's true

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:43.239
<v Speaker 1>hose water. Oh, I know what he's talking about. Yeah,

0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:45.920
<v Speaker 1>like when you're watering the car or watering the car.

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 1>When you're washing the car, here a right grow car

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:51.400
<v Speaker 1>when you're watering your mini, so it grows into an

0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:56.000
<v Speaker 1>suv right So, um, I think the reason why Scott

0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:58.360
<v Speaker 1>is onto something is because when you're drinking from a hose,

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:01.680
<v Speaker 1>it's summertime and it's hot, yeah, and you're probably working hard.

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's definitely it definitely does taste different, for sure.

0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 1>So when it comes to New York water, um, everyone

0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:13.880
<v Speaker 1>says it's the best in the country. There are rankings actually,

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:19.080
<v Speaker 1>and it is out of one metro areas in the US,

0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:22.200
<v Speaker 1>So it's not the best literally by definition, not the

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:24.320
<v Speaker 1>best water in the guy. You've got to move to Arlington,

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Texas if you want uh. And this was this was

0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 1>from ten years ago, but I'm not sure what the

0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 1>current status is. Imagine Arlington's still up there though, sure,

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:34.840
<v Speaker 1>but you're gonna have to have a lot more reasons

0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:39.719
<v Speaker 1>than that to move to Arlington, Texas. Ouch that one,

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:41.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm not taking that. What are some of the problems

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:45.200
<v Speaker 1>though with New York water, Well, there's two big problems. Turbidity,

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:49.960
<v Speaker 1>which you mentioned earlier, which is um uh, sediment suspension

0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:52.120
<v Speaker 1>in the water, which gives it kind of a cloudy

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:56.080
<v Speaker 1>or darker, gritty kind of look, which is it's not

0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:59.800
<v Speaker 1>just that it looks bad, it's pathogens can cling to

0:38:59.880 --> 0:39:02.840
<v Speaker 1>that sediment, so it's not something you want suspended. Plus

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 1>it also makes it much more difficult to filter that

0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:08.400
<v Speaker 1>stuff out. It's like extra work that has to be

0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:11.279
<v Speaker 1>done to get rid of that sediment. And if you're

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:13.960
<v Speaker 1>not filtering your water to begin with, that's kind of

0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 1>a problem. Um. And then secondly, the other one is

0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 1>nutrients over it's over nutrient meaning it's just packed with

0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:28.240
<v Speaker 1>ribal flavoring. Well, what it actually is is fertilizer runoff.

0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:32.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, with those farmers are doing their best, but

0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:37.440
<v Speaker 1>there is fertilizer that goes downstream and runs into the watersheds.

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:41.320
<v Speaker 1>And phosphorus is one of the biggest problems because farmers

0:39:41.440 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 1>do fertilize with phosphorus and if it runs off. The

0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:48.040
<v Speaker 1>phosphorus alone is not great because it can cause algae

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:51.239
<v Speaker 1>blooms and stuff like that, and it can taste bad

0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:54.200
<v Speaker 1>and stink. Yeah, because when the algae dies, it decays

0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 1>and it does not smell good. Now it does not

0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:59.920
<v Speaker 1>smell good. But um. A bigger problem though, is when

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 1>you combine that with the chlorine. Because, like we said,

0:40:02.239 --> 0:40:06.040
<v Speaker 1>New York water is chlorinated and fluoridated. We have the

0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:08.400
<v Speaker 1>T shirts to prove it, right. I don't think we

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:11.320
<v Speaker 1>said it was fluoridated, but yeah, everybody knows it's fluoridated.

0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:17.000
<v Speaker 1>And when you combine that chlorine with a phosphorus, it

0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:21.400
<v Speaker 1>can create byproducts called disinfection by products and that is

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:23.839
<v Speaker 1>no good at all. No, those are nasty. They're called

0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:29.960
<v Speaker 1>DBPs and they are basically like um chemicals that are

0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 1>accidentally made from from sanitizing water, and not just with chlorine,

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:38.480
<v Speaker 1>but chlorine chloramine. There's a bunch of different stuff that

0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 1>they use to to disinfect water, and all of them

0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 1>can can combine with organic call compounds to create really

0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:52.239
<v Speaker 1>just nasty stuff like um, carcinages or yeah, carcinogens. Um.

0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Some can produce miscarriages, just really really bad stuff that

0:40:57.160 --> 0:41:00.440
<v Speaker 1>can be produced in the drinking water. Chloroform is one

0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:03.520
<v Speaker 1>of those byproducts, yeah, which is why New Yorker is

0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:07.759
<v Speaker 1>frequently faint when they're drinking tap one. But this all

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:12.520
<v Speaker 1>sounds super scary New York City. Um, they are they.

0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:16.719
<v Speaker 1>I think there are eight known contaminants um. But they

0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:21.320
<v Speaker 1>are still apparently well under the legal limit, depending on

0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:23.239
<v Speaker 1>what you think about how the legal limits are set

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:25.440
<v Speaker 1>up for us, right exactly, it's a good caveat But

0:41:25.520 --> 0:41:27.799
<v Speaker 1>New York City drinking water is thirty point nine parts

0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:31.759
<v Speaker 1>pervilion chloroform and the national averages eleven, so they are

0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:34.239
<v Speaker 1>way higher on chloroform. But as far as all of

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:38.080
<v Speaker 1>those uh DBPs, total, they're far below the legal limit

0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:41.320
<v Speaker 1>and just a little bit above average nationally. Right, and

0:41:41.400 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 1>then the total number of DBPs that they have is

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:48.480
<v Speaker 1>actually less than those in Arlington's So interesting. Chew on

0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 1>that Arlington's right, chew on that bad pizza. Speaking of

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 1>chewing chuck and pizza, let's just answer this question. Is

0:41:57.520 --> 0:42:00.719
<v Speaker 1>New York City's water the key ingredient to New York

0:42:00.760 --> 0:42:03.680
<v Speaker 1>City bagels and pizza? H? I think, I mean, you

0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:06.680
<v Speaker 1>can't definitively say, but I think it does have something

0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 1>to do with it. For sure. It's got to because

0:42:09.600 --> 0:42:12.600
<v Speaker 1>science is involved. So here's the thing. The water from

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:16.240
<v Speaker 1>the cat Skills and from the Delaware is naturally soft,

0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:19.920
<v Speaker 1>meaning that it's lower in calcium and magnesium. Where do

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:23.480
<v Speaker 1>you fall on loving softer hard water? I'm a hard

0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:26.520
<v Speaker 1>water guy, same here man. When I lived in Arizona,

0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:30.480
<v Speaker 1>they had soft water where I lived in, uh my

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:32.800
<v Speaker 1>sister's house that I lived in, and most of the

0:42:32.880 --> 0:42:37.760
<v Speaker 1>house has had water softened error, I guess hardening units

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:41.520
<v Speaker 1>or whatever in the house. Yeah, because you can't feel clean,

0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:43.480
<v Speaker 1>like you never feel like you've got the shampoo or

0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:47.719
<v Speaker 1>the soap off. It's it's just awful. Does anyone like

0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:53.080
<v Speaker 1>soft water? I don't know, weirdos probably I mean hard water. Sorry, no,

0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:56.320
<v Speaker 1>I had it all backwards. Okay, So so you like

0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:59.800
<v Speaker 1>soft water, Yeah, that's why. That's why I actually that

0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:03.320
<v Speaker 1>so why I misspoke. They had water softeners in Arizona

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:06.320
<v Speaker 1>because the water was hard. New York water is soft.

0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:10.359
<v Speaker 1>I like soft Okay. I like hard water typically because

0:43:10.400 --> 0:43:14.040
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm clean afterward. But soft water, like

0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:16.560
<v Speaker 1>just the New York water is fine with me. But

0:43:16.840 --> 0:43:22.440
<v Speaker 1>a softened like a chemically softened water, I can't stand. Yes, interesting,

0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:27.520
<v Speaker 1>But New York's is naturally soft, so it doesn't have calcium, magnesium,

0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:30.160
<v Speaker 1>or it is very low in those things comparatively, and

0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:33.400
<v Speaker 1>that actually has an effect on taste, like calcium and

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:36.600
<v Speaker 1>magnesium can provide like a bitter taste to water. So

0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:39.399
<v Speaker 1>there's one thing that they're saying, like, Okay, the dough

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:43.000
<v Speaker 1>isn't going to taste naturally bitter because of the calcium magnesium.

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 1>That's something that is something, and it also interacts with

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:49.279
<v Speaker 1>the flower. If you're gonna make a bagel or a

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:52.560
<v Speaker 1>bali or pizza crust, you're gonna be or you know

0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:54.759
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things when you're baking. But those are

0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:57.560
<v Speaker 1>the big three in New York. You're gonna be using

0:43:57.600 --> 0:44:01.040
<v Speaker 1>flour and water as your base for your dough and

0:44:01.160 --> 0:44:04.359
<v Speaker 1>hard water. The minerals uh in those tap water are

0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:06.560
<v Speaker 1>going to fortify the gluten and they're gonna make it

0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:10.000
<v Speaker 1>tough and less flexible. You don't want it too soft, though,

0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:12.120
<v Speaker 1>because it'll have the opposite effect and it will be

0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:13.759
<v Speaker 1>gooey and you won't be able to work it as well.

0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:17.640
<v Speaker 1>And apparently the American Chemical Society says New York City

0:44:17.680 --> 0:44:21.000
<v Speaker 1>tap water is the Goldilocks of bagel water. It is

0:44:21.080 --> 0:44:24.040
<v Speaker 1>just right yep, not too hard, not too soft, just

0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:27.560
<v Speaker 1>perfect for a bagel and for a pizza. And that

0:44:27.840 --> 0:44:31.280
<v Speaker 1>that American Chemical Society quote came from a Smithsonian article

0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:34.720
<v Speaker 1>and they went on to say probably though, it's actually

0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:37.600
<v Speaker 1>the techniques that New Yorkers used to make bagels, Like

0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:40.440
<v Speaker 1>they poach the bagel dough first, like they boil it.

0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:43.200
<v Speaker 1>That that's the only way to do a bagel. Sure,

0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:45.880
<v Speaker 1>it's not a bagel, No it's not. That's like a

0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:49.040
<v Speaker 1>baked donut and it's not a doughnut basically, And then

0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:53.399
<v Speaker 1>they also, um will uh, they'll let the yeast sit

0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:55.359
<v Speaker 1>for a little while to make it for men, which

0:44:55.440 --> 0:45:00.359
<v Speaker 1>creates volatile flavor compounds. So um, it just taste better.

0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:03.600
<v Speaker 1>They're saying, probably those are the reasons why New Yorkers

0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:07.560
<v Speaker 1>make better bagels or pizza. And it's not really the water.

0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:11.680
<v Speaker 1>The waters just contributes a very small amount. I think

0:45:11.719 --> 0:45:14.439
<v Speaker 1>it's all those things. Why not? No one can say

0:45:14.520 --> 0:45:16.680
<v Speaker 1>for certain, so let's just say yes, it is all

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:19.120
<v Speaker 1>those things. Well, if you want to know more about

0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:21.719
<v Speaker 1>New York City's tap water, go on to New York

0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:25.040
<v Speaker 1>City and try their tap water. And since I said

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:30.040
<v Speaker 1>that it's time for listener mail everybody, I'm gonna call

0:45:30.120 --> 0:45:35.560
<v Speaker 1>this uh house rolling And we talked about t being houses. Yep,

0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I let the podcast guys just finish up trick or treating.

0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:41.000
<v Speaker 1>And you were talking about rolling houses. I grew up

0:45:41.040 --> 0:45:44.799
<v Speaker 1>in Franklin, Tennessee, where we used to roll houses all

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:47.640
<v Speaker 1>the time. In Franklin, Tennessee for people who don't know,

0:45:47.960 --> 0:45:51.480
<v Speaker 1>because where a lot of big shot Nashville big wigs live.

0:45:52.280 --> 0:45:54.439
<v Speaker 1>Because you can buy a huge house with lots of land.

0:45:55.800 --> 0:45:58.960
<v Speaker 1>That was Chuck speaking right. Funny thing though, guys, I'm

0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:01.839
<v Speaker 1>back to being brand and Okay, funny thing though, Guys,

0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:04.520
<v Speaker 1>my neighbor was Brad Paisley. There was a couple of

0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 1>years before his first Grammy award, and once we found

0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 1>this out, we knew that we had to get him.

0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:11.320
<v Speaker 1>So my sister and I gathered all of our friends

0:46:11.440 --> 0:46:14.360
<v Speaker 1>dressed in black and snuck out to roll this country

0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:17.920
<v Speaker 1>music stars house. We were halfway through the job when

0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:21.520
<v Speaker 1>his freaking tour bus rolled up on us. At first,

0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:23.440
<v Speaker 1>we all ran away frightened, but we were pretty much

0:46:23.440 --> 0:46:25.839
<v Speaker 1>called in the act. Nowhere to go. He got off

0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:27.920
<v Speaker 1>the bus and was super nice about the whole thing. Actually,

0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:29.919
<v Speaker 1>he gave us a quick tour of the tour bus,

0:46:30.719 --> 0:46:33.040
<v Speaker 1>chatted us up for a little while. We even cleaned

0:46:33.120 --> 0:46:34.800
<v Speaker 1>up the little bit of mess we had made and

0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:38.120
<v Speaker 1>left star struck. Highly doubt he remembers that night at all,

0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:41.080
<v Speaker 1>but my friends and I will certainly never forget anyway,

0:46:41.320 --> 0:46:44.200
<v Speaker 1>That's all I got, guys, have a spooky Halloween. That

0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:48.000
<v Speaker 1>is from Brandon Saunders. That is very nice. Brandon, thanks

0:46:48.040 --> 0:46:51.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot for that email, and hats off to Brad

0:46:51.200 --> 0:46:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Paisley for being so cool that he doesn't take his

0:46:53.440 --> 0:46:56.520
<v Speaker 1>hat off. But all right, exactly, but also, how about

0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:58.480
<v Speaker 1>just a hat tipp fin. Yeah, actually I was thinking

0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:01.399
<v Speaker 1>Kdney Chesney because he's ball none. None of those guys

0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:04.239
<v Speaker 1>take their hats off, dude. So but also he hangs

0:47:04.280 --> 0:47:06.200
<v Speaker 1>out with Peyton Manning, which means that he must be

0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:09.719
<v Speaker 1>a good guy. Right, isn't Peyton a good dude? Sure?

0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:12.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm just started of seeing him on my TV. Oh,

0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:15.000
<v Speaker 1>that's not gonna happen anytime soon. Pretty soon you'll see

0:47:15.040 --> 0:47:17.719
<v Speaker 1>him in augmented reality and you're gonna everywhere you go,

0:47:18.880 --> 0:47:21.839
<v Speaker 1>like it or not, Charles. Okay, Well, if you want

0:47:21.880 --> 0:47:23.719
<v Speaker 1>to get in touch of this, like Brad Paisley did,

0:47:24.080 --> 0:47:26.520
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0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:29.799
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0:47:29.840 --> 0:47:32.359
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0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:34.600
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0:47:34.640 --> 0:47:37.880
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