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Speaker 1: Crews wrote, it is conquer our own negativity.

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Speaker 4: Probably wearing the dummy fake glasses to feel like Rickberry.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like, baby, where's my writing wife beater? I

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My

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Speaker 1: Mama Told Me.

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Speaker 2: The podcast that dives deep into the pockets of black

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Speaker 2: conspiracy theories, and.

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Speaker 1: We finally work to prove that the stump at the

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Speaker 1: Apollo Theater is the nigga equivalent of a cursed monkey. Paul,

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Speaker 1: that's right, you rub that stump and all of your

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Speaker 1: dreams will come true. But at what cost? At what costs,

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. Neo rubbed that stump, and yes he

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Speaker 1: got to make the song misindependent, But in exchange, he

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Speaker 1: has a terrible kind of bald head.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Even a cool bald. It's a bald.

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Speaker 2: Looks like sha, It's weirdly shaped, and it's it's permanent hairline.

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Speaker 2: Imagine God blessing you with being a black man, and

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Speaker 2: then you can't look good bald.

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Speaker 1: He's he's a black man. He dances better than anybody.

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Speaker 1: He has it all except that goddamn cursed bald head,

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Speaker 1: And it's sad. It's a sad story.

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Speaker 2: You said dances better than anybody. You don't feel that way.

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Speaker 1: Neil is a pretty great dancer, Man't anybody I was exaggerating?

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Speaker 2: I took it. Are you a Neil guy?

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Speaker 1: I like Neo? Are you a bust baby? I'm a

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Speaker 1: busted baby. Sure you and my little sister I'm a

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Speaker 1: buzzing baby part too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, monster, I never heard Busted Baby Part.

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Speaker 1: One nobody has I'm not even one hundred percent sureplies

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Speaker 1: that's hurt Buzzing Baby Part one.

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Speaker 2: I hope the conspiracy is that they never made a

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Speaker 2: part one. I like that, and Applies was like, what

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Speaker 2: if we just hit them with part two? Nobody?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now that makes us mysterious. They're gonna try to

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Speaker 1: dig through the catalogs, being like where can I find

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Speaker 1: Part one?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Oh man, well I'm like Ston Kerman, I'm David boy

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Speaker 1: and and we're already we're already back on our bullshit. Man,

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Speaker 1: we ain't even like we never left. Huh, busted Baby

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Speaker 1: like a part two? The busting baby?

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Speaker 3: You ever?

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Speaker 2: Is that like the thing you could ever use in cash?

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Speaker 2: Have you ever? Nobody's ever actually called someone a busted baby, right?

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Speaker 2: Not text like a text like hey what's up, busting.

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Speaker 1: That's my busted baby. That seems more natural. I think

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Speaker 2: Maybe we bring it back this summer. That's it.

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Speaker 1: Listeners, if you care, please help us bring back Busted Baby.

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Speaker 1: I think Busted Baby needs a revival. We are working

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Speaker 2: Call you no no no no, no no no.

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Speaker 1: Gotta get bust it baby. May our our guests today,

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Speaker 1: Next Chapters podcast Beef. She's she's talented, she's lovely. Please

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Speaker 3: Yes, that was that was a lovely intro.

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, well you came to us with a conspiracy

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to unpack with you. You said, my mama told

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Speaker 1: me Bill Cosby tried to buy NBC.

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Speaker 4: Cosby to own NBC. He didn't do anything wrong, They

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Speaker 2: Which wasn't putting because they let By it out and

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Speaker 1: Take over the fucking weather And you're saying that he

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Speaker 1: Inside of this, this theory that Cosby was buying NBC

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Speaker 2: I thought that was a conspiracy.

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Speaker 1: I had not heard that that's why they killed his son.

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Speaker 1: It smelled like money and y'all nigga's.

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Speaker 2: Quite frankly, I don't know what what happened. I've heard

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think with a lot of these movements,

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Speaker 1: Like the Me Too movement, Terry Cruz was as much

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Speaker 3: I me too.

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Speaker 2: Why do you hate him because I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: And that's the police coming to get you right now.

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Speaker 3: You know, I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: This is talk about conspiracy theories when Gabrielle Union was

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Speaker 4: She basically was like came out and was like, this

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Speaker 2: Like I was like, you also, if you got that

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Speaker 2: Also, you're addicted to porn. Grow up. People don't have

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Speaker 2: What are you doing? Shut the fuck up?

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Speaker 1: You almost lost your family because you can't stay off

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Speaker 3: Talked about a pornography sermon?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh this was This was actually before I

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Speaker 2: This was I need him even then before that.

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Speaker 2: Not mistaken, because what was the acronym was like cool

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Speaker 2: And I don't know. I don't know enough about either

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Speaker 1: I dare say bigger than we'd like damn.

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Speaker 3: Cold tip of the Terry Crews Iceberg.

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Speaker 4: I only I just thought I just suspected that I

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Speaker 4: realizing there's so much more out there. I'm gonna get

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Speaker 3: Research, on your own research, because there's a lot there.

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Speaker 2: There's no bottom, there's just an empty pit.

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Speaker 3: Oh conquer our own negativity.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, so so so Terry Crews aside, you Bridget

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Speaker 4: Oh my god everyone, So my I come from one

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Speaker 4: That's how often people bring it up when they're defending

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Speaker 2: It's like some guy with the avatar that's like a

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Speaker 1: Yep, just waiting in the wings, just like.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Bory, was this something that you were you a

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Speaker 2: I and not in a sad way, but grew up

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Speaker 1: How did how did his takedown hit you? Was that

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Speaker 2: I'm used to Dad's not being ship. So I took it.

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Speaker 3: America's dad. Of course he's a dead beat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the way that they say, you see

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Speaker 2: But like it didn't like hurt my face. It was sad.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like it's sad. I'm saddened that we couldn't

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Speaker 2: just like how many people, Yeah he probably did that ship?

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Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, man, no, it's not that complicated.

441
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: It's a it is a weird thing to sit around

442
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 1: people who and I have people in my life still

443
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: who will advocate for like the injustices that transpired and

444
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 1: Bill Cosby going to jail. Whatever. Bro, Bro, we're talking

445
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: about sixty plus women, Like, I don't know what what

446
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: what do you want?

447
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 2: Who's ever had sixty? Is so many? Who's ever ever

448
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 2: had sixties? Whoever had that? Yeah, this would be unprecedented.

449
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 1: No, he's putting up legendary numbers period. It's it's surely

450
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 1: he is the goat, you know what I mean, like

451
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: is doing goat ship. It's not as far as rapist.

452
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 2: Numbers, right, Like, like the term great is not moral,

453
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 2: it's just.

454
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 1: Like, no, it's it's objective in this sense.

455
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 2: I understand.

456
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 1: I have no feelings about great. It just is it's

457
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: technically true.

458
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 4: What's funny is like kind of like what you were

459
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 4: saying about Michael Jordan. What I learned from watching that

460
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 4: documentary is that not only is it rapes and sexual

461
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 4: assaults and all of that.

462
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 3: But also he just seems like kind of a shitty guy.

463
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 4: Like they also go back through like interpersonal interactions that

464
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 4: did not involve like sexual assaults where it's just like, yeah,

465
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 4: he just kind of comes off like a dick. They

466
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 4: make the point that he kind of got a bullshit

467
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 4: PhD from Temple in order to have the moral high ground,

468
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 4: but like, I basically just bought that PhD so that

469
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 4: he could be like, well, I'm doctor Cosby, and I

470
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 4: think this you have like intellectual high.

471
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 3: Ground over people that probably knew better.

472
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 2: Than him for sure, a pseudo intellectual.

473
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 3: Oh I hate that's like my rapes a side that's

474
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 3: one of the most annoying.

475
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not even a it's not even a uh

476
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: he bought it. I think it truly is just an

477
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 1: honorary degree that he then was like, yeah, I'm gonna

478
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: let this define me. And it's like, bro, every celebrity

479
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: we know has an honorary degree from some fucking institution.

480
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 2: Didn't you go to Temple on a track scholarship like

481
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 2: you were a job?

482
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah you were. You were like a football track dude,

483
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: and then you're suddenly being like I'm doctor Cosby.

484
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 2: Fuck off. Whenever I think about Bill Cosby, I had

485
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: a friend. I have a friend who's an Indian immigrant

486
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: who came here and he was like the way he explained,

487
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: the Commency show is so funny. He was like, yeah,

488
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 2: I never liked that show. He was like, all that

489
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 2: guy did was like hate on his kids, eat sandwiches,

490
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 2: and try to bang his wife at weird times.

491
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 4: Was whoa and have like pregnant women because he was

492
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 4: an obgy having women come down to his basement.

493
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 2: Office not big in the medical field.

494
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 3: Very weird.

495
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 2: You're going to very weird. If you're going to the

496
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: basement to get medical procedures, it's most likely for hast shots, yeah,

497
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 2: not for someone to consult about delivering your baby.

498
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

499
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 2: No.

500
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: And he and he talked down to those pregnant women

501
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: in a way that when we look back on it,

502
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, he wasn't even being cool as the

503
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: obg y n you know what I mean. He wasn't

504
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: He wasn't being chill.

505
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 2: He strikes me as a type of doctor who would

506
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 2: like have a sucker in his mouth, like you know

507
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 2: what I mean, yeah, anation.

508
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, he starts the conversation like so what's up, and

509
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: you're like.

510
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: Bro, no, no, no, no no, no.

511
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: Olivia sent this over. I think this is a good

512
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: piece of information to send us into break before we

513
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: get to this research. But she said he received seventy

514
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: two honorary degrees, almost as many as women. He's raped. Uh,

515
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: seventy two honorary degrees in recognition of his career in

516
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: acting in comedy. Sixty two of these have since been revoked.

517
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 2: Who are the ten? Who are the other ten? Divide

518
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: was like, now, dog, you got it, we still.

519
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: Need itt Tech was like, fuck up, he's still a

520
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: doctor to us.

521
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 2: Also, Yo, we got to relax on this entertainment worship.

522
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 2: No one deserves a degree for being good at acting.

523
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: That's crazy or comedy, and I do both mediocre. Nobody

524
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: deserves No, there's no part of this job that deserves

525
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: a college degree.

526
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: It's insane, it's crazy.

527
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: Don't do that. Just just say you like me and

528
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: and maybe watched whatever program I had more I don't know,

529
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: but like, you're you're losing your fucking mind if you're

530
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: gonna treat this like it's something worth awarding.

531
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's anyways, he rapes, all.

532
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: Right, he right, And we're gonna take a break, and

533
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna count and figure out which which

534
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: institutions are still loyal cosby as we're gonna take a break.

535
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: We'll be back with more, Bridget hot and more.

536
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: My mama told me you're ugly, You're disgusting. I'm gonna

537
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 2: kill you. Give me two hundred dollars, you know what,

538
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 2: making four hundred, We are back disgusting. Whether or not

539
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: Bill Cosby was on board to purchase NBC? Correct not CBS?

540
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, NBC? Did you hear CBS?

541
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: I thought I just thought he was a CBS guy.

542
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,959
Speaker 2: I believe most of his albums were on CBS.

543
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: His his TV chew was NBC, though.

544
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 2: Oh was it? Yeah? And just he seems like a

545
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 2: guy who would be friends with Sumner Redstone.

546
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: I don't know why, Oh, I will say, and this

547
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: this is maybe a good sec way into the research

548
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: because Bridget, you, if I'm understanding correctly, you were saying

549
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: you don't even believe that he was in line to

550
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: purchase NBC.

551
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 3: Absolutely not my understanding.

552
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,479
Speaker 4: And I'm really curious to get to hear the research

553
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,239
Speaker 4: that you put together. But my understanding is that it

554
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 4: was like casually floated in one interview, like a Newsweek interview,

555
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 4: in one sentence in like nineteen eighty or something like that,

556
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 4: was never returned to you in any kind of substantive

557
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 4: or meaningful way, and like still just that one sentence

558
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 4: has become this thing that people have built up so

559
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 4: much lower around. That's my understanding, but I'm really curious

560
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 4: to hear what you found.

561
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: Well, sister, I hate to burst your goddamn bubblo. But

562
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: as it turns out, William Cosby did, in fact try

563
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: to buy INBC. In fact, in fact, in two and

564
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, there was a Vanity Fair article where journalists

565
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: speak extremely glowingly about Bill Cosby. It shows you how

566
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: crazy time is that twenty fifteen they are still referring

567
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: to him as America's dead he's everybody's favorite comedian, but

568
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: they are specifically talking about his endeavor to acquire NBC

569
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: and restore the brand.

570
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 3: You're fucking lying, shocked.

571
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, also restore the brand. They were killing it.

572
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: Not according to Bill Cosby, Yeah.

573
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 4: On his Doctor Cosby stick like according to me, esteemed

574
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 4: doctor Cosby, those we are going wrong NBC chairman.

575
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: No, he was not happy with where the brand was

576
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: and was ready to buy NBC. And one of the

577
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: main takeaways that they sort of point to is that

578
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: it wasn't just Bill Cosby right, like this wasn't Bill

579
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: Cosby by himself collecting all of his money and trying

580
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: to make this happen?

581
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: Was it like the access of evil? Let me guess

582
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: who else it was?

583
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead, I'm excited.

584
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 7: Bill, Bill Cosby, Terry Crews Okay.

585
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: The dude from the Shy who fell out of Grace.

586
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah. And then lastly, you gotta throw a

587
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: wild card in there, Russell Simmons.

588
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: Oh, Charles Barkley, WHOA? I like this?

589
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: That's the crew I think I I unfortunately cannot cannot

590
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: offer you any of those other names on this list,

591
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: although they might have been silent investors. But one of

592
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: the people, the main person that he had sort of

593
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: partnered with, is this dude, Robert J. Westler, right, who

594
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: is actually one of the co founders of CNN and

595
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: had just shifted over as the head David of CBS Sports.

596
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: He was the head of CBS Sports and then teamed

597
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: up with Cosby after leaving that job to basically work

598
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: with one of the major banks. I can't remember which

599
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: one because who the fuck cares one of the big ones,

600
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: but they basically put together four billion dollars as an

601
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: offer with AB to buy NBC from.

602
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: Who would they have been buying it from at that.

603
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: Point, mister NBC. Whoever the head of Andy Lack at

604
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: that point it might have been I.

605
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 3: Former chairman of NBC.

606
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know if he was during that

607
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 4: during that era, but that's what the last notable one was.

608
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: I think it sounds correct to me that I don't

609
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: remember specifically from the article some of the names I

610
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: skim over because I'm like, I don't give a fuck,

611
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: But the point being, yeah, he was. He was set

612
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: to try to buy NBC. Now here's where it gets

613
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: extra fascinating is that what it gets pitched to us,

614
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: right as when when we find out that this is

615
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: meant to happen, or rather that this is the justification

616
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: for why they took him down, is that he was

617
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: just too pro black. He just loved black people too much.

618
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 1: He wanted to save the black man from the injustices

619
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: of the white man running NBC. But the reality is

620
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: his partner in this is a rich white benefactor and

621
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: he's teaming up with like fucking JP Morgan to buy

622
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: the ship. So this ain't a black would all.

623
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 2: Look, I'm a dog. He's black as conveyed.

624
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: That is our manifesto. That is the words to our

625
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: matching tattoos.

626
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: We got stamped a couple of months ago.

627
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: But now, oh, this wasn't some black endeavor. This wasn't

628
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: about like this salvation of the black community. This was

629
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: surely just Bill Cosby being like, hey, all my shit's

630
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: over at NBC. I'll buy NBC and and make more

631
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: money that way.

632
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 4: And I have to say that the part of the

633
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 4: conspiracy theory that Cosby was going to make all the

634
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 4: programming so pro black. He was too pro black. They

635
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 4: had to take him down. If there's one thing that

636
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 4: Cosby hates more than consent, it's black people. He spent

637
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 4: career scolding black people.

638
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 3: This man was not pro black. But that's not the

639
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 3: way that he got down. Like he loved scolding black people.

640
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 3: He wasn't too pro black.

641
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: What about cousin Pam. He loved her. You did love Pam.

642
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: She was my favorite.

643
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 1: Cousin Pam was your favorite person in the entire Cosby show.

644
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 2: I loved Cousin Pam. And I loved theo when he

645
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 2: worked at the after school program after he figured out

646
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: his dyslex Yeah, yeah, And what's his name from CB

647
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: four her lance and I like that. I like the cut.

648
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 2: I also liked three J on The Cosby Show. You know,

649
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 2: I had to think for wayward children, I got you.

650
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 2: Hell yeah.

651
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: Well it's also worth noting and and you're speaking to

652
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: his intentions and this other guy's intentions inside of this.

653
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: One of the direct quotes from the article that they

654
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: say about the Cosby Wustler management group that was plotting

655
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: this purchase is that they had a specific strategic plan

656
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: designed to dramatically enhance profitability right away, re establish affiliate relations,

657
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: and put the network back in the hands of TV professionals. Literally,

658
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 1: not a single mention of niggas once and now they.

659
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 2: Were going to reboot Friends or some shit.

660
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

661
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 4: Can you imagine like if this had gone through and

662
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 4: he bought NBC, what a Cosby owned NBC would be

663
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 4: like in the Trump years, Like presidential debates, Like having

664
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 4: Bill Cosby at the helm of all of these wacky,

665
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 4: weird dynamics within media and journalism, Bill Cosby helming one

666
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 4: of the five major news channels.

667
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 3: Like I can't even wrap my head around.

668
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: What you would have moderated the debates? Oh you know,

669
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: he would have debates.

670
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: Stupid fucking sweater, yeah, cigar, oh blind and ship Now

671
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: you say it is.

672
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: Like fuck you man, let them Let them be real politicians.

673
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: Don't muddy this up with like colloquial.

674
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: Brought to you by.

675
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: The How could a woman is like, alright, man, just

676
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: stop bro. The other piece of this that I think

677
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: is really important is that there was one other quote

678
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: from the Vanity Fair that spoke specifically to Cosby's intentions

679
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: inside of this right then they said, or his dry

680
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 1: And they say, and I imagine this has a pr

681
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: sort of quality to it, but they can't even sort

682
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: of pr it enough to not make him into a

683
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: sinister fuck. But they said Cosby was driven by three

684
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: specific sins as it relates to NBC, he said, television's

685
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: one dimensional stereotyping of African Americans, the pervasiveness of violence

686
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: as entertainment in TV programming, And NBC's cancelation of his

687
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: Here and Now sitcom.

688
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 4: That gets like a whole bullet point being salty. They

689
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 4: I don't even remember that sitcom.

690
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, ah, his post Cosby work was Cosby.

691
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 3: So the Cosby show, it, Cosby had its moments.

692
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: Let's not forget the show staling Cosby. I don't think so.

693
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 3: Dougie doug shot.

694
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 2: We gotta get him on.

695
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 4: Oh man, let me know if you ever do, because

696
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 4: I be listening to the fuck out of that episode.

697
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 2: Yo, we missed. Hi. Where's he? Yeah, I don't know

698
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: what happened.

699
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: He was in that Uh, he was in that documentary.

700
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: He's down to he's down to talk some shit. I

701
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: think he's got nothing to lose at this boy. He like, look, man,

702
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: my eye is weird. I made all the money. I'm

703
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: gonna make what's up? But no, I yeah. It seems

704
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 1: to be very driven by sort of a personal vendetta

705
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: that that they did not like the show that he

706
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: made that no one liked.

707
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm pretty up on my Cosby. I've never

708
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 4: even heard of here now.

709
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't even know there was a post like

710
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: the Cosby Show and then Cosby. I didn't know there

711
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: was anything after that.

712
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: Yep, Here and Now. And he was pissed about it.

713
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: So he was gonna buy. He was going to spend

714
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: four billion dollars. And what's even crazier, and this is

715
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: the part that that really becomes fascinating in all of this,

716
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: is that four billion dollars he was willing to spend

717
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: on the whole thing. They estimated the company's worth at

718
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: the time to be two point five billion dollars, so

719
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: he was he was already offering one point five billion

720
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 1: more than the company's like total worth. Right, But even

721
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: with that, even with that, his offer, as it was

722
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: perceived by sort of like the elite, the people who

723
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: were in charge, the ones who would potentially be selling

724
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: the product, was considered like a joke. They did not

725
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: take him seriously inside of any of this, that they

726
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: were considering him, even with all of these banks, even

727
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: with this big white man attached to him to be

728
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: a unseerious person and not a real player in the

729
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: NBC purchase.

730
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 3: Game, I don't give a fuck. Who'll say, what blood.

731
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 2: Oh crap, Uh, that's hilarious. Well why not?

732
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: But why not with that's a lot over high asking price. Well,

733
00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: here's here's what I think. And and I'm curious to

734
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: hear where you guys fall in this is that? And again,

735
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: I am not defending Bill Cosby. I do think that

736
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 1: he's a piece of shit. All of those things are true,

737
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: But I do think it is very telling in terms

738
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: of the way that white people will continue to control

739
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: their spaces. That even Bill Cosby is too much of

740
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: an existential threat to their very existence if we allow

741
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: him to take over such a big piece of the pie.

742
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?

743
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: Like, I can't let niggas be owners of one of

744
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: the four fucking broadcast channels. That's not okay.

745
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 2: I do agree with you in that. I also, I

746
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 2: don't have any glasses to take off, But I also

747
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 2: think Bill Cosby's a piece of shit. No, I do

748
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 2: agree with you in that that. I don't know any

749
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: section of the media landscape that's not big that is

750
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: owned by black people. Yeah, right, I mean we joke

751
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: about it, but Byron Allen got the Weather Channel. I

752
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: think he's talking about buying b ET now, right. But

753
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 2: it's like, on a on a major scale, what do

754
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: we have TV one? Like, I don't. I don't really

755
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: know a lot of major media media anything that's owned

756
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 2: by it owned by black.

757
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, even the studios like Shonda Land and you know,

758
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 1: Tyler Perry's studios, like they there is a quality inside

759
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: of those that still has to partner with a big

760
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,919
Speaker 1: white whatever to to sort of hold their value, right,

761
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: Shondaaland only is valuable so long as she's partnered with

762
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: ABC and then Netflix. She ain't just cool off of

763
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: being Shondaaland on her own.

764
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 2: And then Tyler Perry is a universal back universal backing,

765
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 2: is that right?

766
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: It used to be Lionsgate. I don't know what it

767
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: is anymore. He I mean, he certainly owned like a

768
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: massive fucking studio and like it's I think the biggest

769
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: one in the country.

770
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 2: It's a lot of space to not pay people what

771
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 2: they need to be paid.

772
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: Right, But that's and that's a different conversation.

773
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 3: Or hire a good wig master because his wigs are always.

774
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: Very right thick and they are ill placed.

775
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 2: That's what they used to say about me.

776
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: Oh David boy, the thick ill place.

777
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: It the way we like him. Laugh. Yeah right, Uh no,

778
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 2: I I think I agree with you on that. Is

779
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 2: like to that to that point because if not him,

780
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 2: who right for him to for him to be able

781
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 2: to be the front facing, the front, the face of

782
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: a network. If if if white America is not going

783
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 2: to accept Bill Cosby, who It's clearly not a monetary issue,

784
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 2: right No, Because he said asking was two point five,

785
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 2: he came in four.

786
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: So it wasn't so much asking, And I think that

787
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: was part of evaluation. Their like argument inside of this

788
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: thing is that, like the evaluation from all the experts

789
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: was like, it's worth two point five, and then he

790
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: showed up with four. And then all the people in

791
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: charge were like, we think it's worth six point eight

792
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: or some shit. And it's like, yeah, but fuck you, no,

793
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: it's not you know what I mean, Like, he wasn't

794
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: being crazy with the number he showed up with.

795
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like somebody should have conquered his own negativity.

796
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: It sounds like you should have found a little more

797
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: money in them bootstraps he was pulling off.

798
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you pull up those pants a little higher, some

799
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 2: money will fall out. How about that?

800
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 3: It must have chopped his ass.

801
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 4: But they did not see him as a serious buyer,

802
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 4: like it must have he like poor Camille, she must

803
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 4: have never heard the end.

804
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 3: Of this.

805
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: Sounds that came out of him before that.

806
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: I bet, I bet, I bet he went on a

807
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: quaylude spree after I bet everybody was getting dosed.

808
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 3: I'll show you who's not a serious buyer.

809
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, guess who bought up all the quayludes left in

810
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 1: Montana William fucking Cosby doctor William. Yeah, No, they didn't

811
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: take him seriously, which I do think at its core,

812
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: it does feel very illuminating in terms of like all

813
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: these people were like, you think jay Z's in the illuminati,

814
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: that nigga ain't in ship.

815
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 2: You have just so liquor to get rich.

816
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not letting us do the thing.

817
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 2: People gotta get it, like over right, you have to

818
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 2: engage advice in some way?

819
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, did he sell to rock jay Z? What's

820
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 1: his shit?

821
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 6: Now?

822
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: It used to be Christallin. Ain't that no more?

823
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 2: He bought a distributor, right, it was like it die

824
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: with Armadale, But he bought a whole liquor distributor, I

825
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 2: think is how he did it.

826
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 3: What do I think of that?

827
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 4: By the way, because I I'm as a like leftist,

828
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 4: I'm always like, yeah, fuck billionaires, But what do we

829
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 4: do with the.

830
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 3: Fact that, like we like that jay Z is a billionaire? Right?

831
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 3: Like I'm always like, wonder, like what do we do

832
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 3: with that?

833
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: To be black in America is complicated, you know what

834
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 2: I mean?

835
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: Let me be clear, I do not root for jay

836
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: Z being a billionaire. I liked the last album. I

837
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: think four four four is maybe some of his best work,

838
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: just in the growth and demonstration of like a man evolving.

839
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: So I'm not shitting on jay Z as an artist,

840
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 1: but I am never rooting for any of my artists

841
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 1: to get like dumb money. It doesn't make them better artists,

842
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't make them more likable for me. It just

843
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: makes them rich assholes who probably have a bunch of

844
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: like conflicts inside of the things that they're selling.

845
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 2: Me. Well, thank god, I'm not one of your favorite

846
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 2: artists because I'm trying to get pain, you know. Send

847
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 2: it over a year back to truck up jigger Man.

848
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: My tour is sponsored by Armadel Vodka. No I, but

849
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 2: here in truth, yeah, I agree with you. I don't

850
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 2: the be putting the bee on. It doesn't necessarily I

851
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 2: don't really believe the artists should be all that rich

852
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: in general.

853
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 1: I think it's the worst thing for it.

854
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of kind of takes away from it. Yeah,

855
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: but I mean that's kind of an older me. I

856
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 2: think that when I first heard and I think that

857
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 2: I'm a fan of distance traveled in a lifetime, and

858
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: I think that I mean to go from the piece

859
00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 2: to being a billionaire is, like you said, it is great.

860
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 2: The size of that. Yeah, to be able to cover

861
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 2: that ground in a single lifetime, past generational wealth, that's amazing,

862
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And to be a black

863
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 2: man and to beat the system completely set up against

864
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: you is very amazing. So in that I guess I

865
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 2: do find it inspiring that jay Z is a billionaire,

866
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 2: but I also don't. I don't like aspire to be

867
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 2: a billionaire.

868
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a I think though, let me

869
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: get it, it is a awe inspiring thing to watch

870
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: a dude who used to sell coke in the MARSI

871
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: Projects suddenly become a billionaire and able to play at

872
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: that level.

873
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 2: And suddenly it was like a series of like you

874
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, nothing like that's that's pretty impressive. Yeah.

875
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: No, I don't mean suddenly in the sense that he

876
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 1: woke up overnight. But like, even if we're talking about

877
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: a lifespan, he's fifty, it's not like he's you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of he's not fucking Warren Buffett,

879
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Speaker 1: who was like one foot in the grave type shit.

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Speaker 1: He had to really do it in a short amount

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Speaker 1: of time. He didn't start like his rap career until

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00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: he was twenty six, So in twenty five years, essentially

883
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: he went from being a coke dealer to a fucking billionaire.

884
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Speaker 1: That's crazy. That said, I'm not rooting for more zeros.

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Speaker 2: I mean, unless you believe him that he started with

886
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: nine hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sure he got the time to be back.

888
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 2: PAGs put it in motion. They't no reminder me back.

889
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 2: But that's like really the flory.

890
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Speaker 1: Yeah, jay Z was a real Nepo baby.

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Speaker 4: To the conspiracy that his dreads are sache.

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Speaker 1: Yes, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: I also kind of believe that. I that's like, you

894
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Speaker 2: don't I don't think that you are that rich and

895
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 2: you just don't wash your hair all the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't think. I don't think those are

897
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Speaker 1: real dreads. I don't think that a fifty year old

898
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Speaker 1: man wearing a bandana is being honest with us at all.

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Speaker 1: I think we saw it with Hulk Hogan and we

900
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: know it with jay Z. There is the same vibe.

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Speaker 2: I want him to I'm glad that he likes Boskiot,

902
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 2: but I want him to get into other weird painters. Bro,

903
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 2: what if you just went through like a Salvador dolly face.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but also like put me on man, stop telling

905
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: me about the one fucking artist that we all agree

906
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: is great. Like, tell me about some shit that I

907
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: ain't never heard of. And jay Z's just like, yo,

908
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 1: you heard of Picasso. It's like, fuck, yeah.

909
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 2: I have Yeah, that is a good point. Also, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I can't speak to art.

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00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 2: I have a I have a paint and fold theme

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00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 2: painting behind me. But it's gorgeous, thank you. I don't

913
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Speaker 2: like that. I don't like that. That's a good point.

914
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Speaker 2: So fuck Jason. I didn't as soon as it came out.

915
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 2: As soon as it came out, it felt bad.

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Speaker 1: I think maybe the more important lesson here, if we

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Speaker 1: were to wrap this thing up, it seems as if

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Speaker 1: we can all agree that Bill Cosby is a bad guy.

919
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Speaker 1: Number one. That's the most important thing. Bill Cosby one

920
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: hundred percent did all of the crimes that he's been

921
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: accused of doing, but he also was stifled in some

922
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: ways because of a maintenance of the powers that be

923
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: that maybe Bill Cosby's dreams were not allowed to reach

924
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: their greatest potential because of the color of his skin

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00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: and what he represented. I agree.

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Speaker 4: I learned that I came into this thinking there is

927
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 4: no truth to the NBC thing. I'm walking away from

928
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 4: this having learned something.

929
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 2: And it's dark because I kind of think I kind

930
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: of feel like maybe I thought that he didn't do

931
00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 2: it because he's block. So you know, we all this

932
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 2: is a big day for everybody.

933
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Speaker 1: Yep, you heard it here first, folks. Bridget Todde she

934
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Speaker 1: believes that Bill Cosby deserves a second chains ye by INBC.

935
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Speaker 2: Cosby apolog you.

936
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Speaker 3: I get canceled.

937
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 1: She said, give him one more shot at buying NBC

938
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 1: and make it fair this time.

939
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 4: I want to see what he does with I want

940
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 4: to see him moderate a Biden Trump debate.

941
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Speaker 3: Dammit. I think we all deserve this.

942
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 2: I would watch that. I would watch that front Listen.

943
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm not turning it off if it comes on to you.

944
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 3: It's not bad TV, right, that's great?

945
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 2: Exactly.

946
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Speaker 1: Well, Bridgie, could you tell the people where they could

947
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: find you and what cool shit you have going on?

948
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Speaker 4: Yes, this was a pleasure. Thank you for having me

949
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 4: and thank you for teaching me something about Bill Cosby.

950
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 4: You can find me at my podcast. There are no

951
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Speaker 4: girls on the Internet on iHeartRadio or my podcast with

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Speaker 4: Next Chapter Podcasts Beef. If you want to dig into

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Speaker 4: you have not heard of, check it out. You can

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Speaker 4: find me on Twitter at Bridget Marie or on Instagram

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Speaker 4: at Bridget Marie in DC.

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Speaker 1: Helly Elli, so follow her, go, go listen to her podcast.

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Speaker 1: She's great and bory. You want to tell people where

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Speaker 1: they can find.

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Speaker 2: You, yes, I can Cool Guy Jokes eighty seven on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: And then you can follow me at Langston Krman on Instagram.

962
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Speaker 1: And oh and if you want to send us your

963
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Speaker 1: own drops, your own conspiracy theories, if you want to

964
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 1: defend Bill Cosby, send it to all to Mymama pod

965
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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. We would love to hear from you. Okay,

966
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Speaker 1: we're officially done by bitch.

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Speaker 6: I actually am one point four percent Nigerian African.

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Speaker 1: I'm a sister.

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Speaker 6: Okay, my cuship send your names.

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Speaker 5: A qualityans on racist. They also the player outs and

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Speaker 5: money for you to many turkey stuffer.

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Speaker 2: I can't help made no