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Speaker 1: episode of information and instructions to help you navigate through
Speaker 1: this wild, crazy, beautiful world. In the studio, Sam Williamson
Speaker 1: the love guru.
Speaker 4: The so what's what's going on?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 4: What exactly is a love guru?
Speaker 2: So you know I get that question all the time,
Speaker 2: so people always ask me how did I come up
Speaker 2: with that? So when I was in college, man, I
Speaker 2: was the guy that if anybody had a question they
Speaker 2: were going through any problems that girl left them.
Speaker 4: They caught that girl cheating.
Speaker 2: They would come to me and asked me, like, what
Speaker 2: do you think they would ask my advice? So they
Speaker 2: saw calling me love guru. So after then I just
Speaker 2: thought I thought it was funny. So I just I
Speaker 2: just took the name. I just kept it. So so
Speaker 2: it happened when I was in college.
Speaker 1: That's so you got you the dude that the girls
Speaker 1: called to. Oh yeah, so you got a lot of
Speaker 1: home girls. That's these are not girls. You in relationships
Speaker 1: with these women and some of them used to be
Speaker 1: relationships with most relationship.
Speaker 2: So they called you to ask for advice.
Speaker 1: What's the advice that they ask you most that you're
Speaker 1: most annoyed about.
Speaker 2: My thing is I only think I get annoyed about
Speaker 2: is women when they lit in themselves like to theyself
Speaker 2: a lot. And that's probably that's probably the biggest issue
Speaker 2: when you talk about relationships.
Speaker 4: So I give you an example.
Speaker 2: I remember we'll ask women like I had I forgot
Speaker 2: someone had a show that was on and they're asking
Speaker 2: about like if you were a high quality woman or
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it, right, So everybody has
Speaker 2: their name. Now you know a woman of substance, high quality?
Speaker 2: You know, I always say check all the box, whether
Speaker 2: it's men or women. So we was asking this young lady,
Speaker 2: she was an attorney here in Houston, and they're asking her,
Speaker 2: could she marry or a data man that make like
Speaker 2: forty thousand dollars? Right, So she said immediately said yes, right,
Speaker 2: So now I'm looking at her. She got you know, Ferragamo,
Speaker 2: this Louis Baton, nad you know, you know, probably had
Speaker 2: La Perla underwear on, you know, you know, and she
Speaker 2: said she can date a dude that's forty thousand, makes
Speaker 2: forty thousand dollars, but as long as he's ambition, And
Speaker 2: were like, well, how ambitious can he be if he's
Speaker 2: making forty thousand dollars? So those type of lives that
Speaker 2: you're telling yourself, you say, hey, you know what, I
Speaker 2: can really deal with this when you know you can't.
Speaker 4: And it's okay.
Speaker 2: It's okay if you're an attorney and you want day
Speaker 2: to do to make forty thousand dollars, because you shouldn't
Speaker 2: because you two are not equally yoked at least economically,
Speaker 2: you know, right, Well, what.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just present the other side of that.
Speaker 1: At some point you was you had to make five
Speaker 1: figures before you started making six figures, right, that's true.
Speaker 2: So and you was ambitious, yeah, yeah, but if you're
Speaker 2: making she was forty some years old, so I would
Speaker 2: imagine she would be dating a guy about her age.
Speaker 2: If you're forty five years old making forty thousand dollars,
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with that, because you may be a school
Speaker 2: teacher or something like that, right, but you're what you
Speaker 2: what you you you deem as import you know, it's
Speaker 2: more about like the feeling you get out of teaching someone, right,
Speaker 2: that's rewarding to you. Right if your attorney and the
Speaker 2: lifestyle that she was living, you know, that's fine, But
Speaker 2: she's more looking on the economic side, and at some
Speaker 2: point in time that's going to clash. So anytime a
Speaker 2: woman said I want to do that's making this type
Speaker 2: money and ambition. Now, if she was twenty years old,
Speaker 2: that would be different. She was twenty five years old,
Speaker 2: that would be different. My first job when I got
Speaker 2: cut from football, and it was funny, my brother just
Speaker 2: asked me, He was like, what was your What did
Speaker 2: you make on your first job? I'm made twenty for
Speaker 2: J and J. I'm a twenty six thousand dollars in
Speaker 2: a company car. I was twenty three years old, right,
Speaker 2: that's a long time, you know, and probably by the
Speaker 2: time I was, you know, twenty six, you know, I
Speaker 2: was willing too high six figures. So I mean that
Speaker 2: my girl at the time was had just came out
Speaker 2: law school.
Speaker 4: She was an attorney.
Speaker 2: So that was cool with her because we was both
Speaker 2: in our twenties, early twenties, and we was on our
Speaker 2: way up. But she's forty five, and they say, you
Speaker 2: will date someone that's making that type of money at
Speaker 2: forty forty five years old.
Speaker 4: That's you lying to yourself.
Speaker 1: You said you played football, whenever did you get to
Speaker 1: I went to camp with the Falcons, got cut.
Speaker 4: And that was it. Act free safety and strong safety.
Speaker 2: How did that affect you moving forward? So that's actually
Speaker 2: a good question because I was engaged at the time,
Speaker 2: So I was when I first got cut, I was
Speaker 2: like I was distract because not even nothing the money,
Speaker 2: it was just the whole lifestyle and stuff that came
Speaker 2: along with it. I didn't feel like I got a
Speaker 2: chance to live that lifestyle. So for probably the next
Speaker 2: five years, all of my boys was playing, like you know,
Speaker 2: Charles Woodson, you know Tyler, you know Keevy Baker, A
Speaker 2: couple of my boys was playing.
Speaker 4: Briggs.
Speaker 2: All these guys was playing so I was kind of
Speaker 2: living vicariously through them. So my girls that she had
Speaker 2: just finished law school. She had moved to Houston and
Speaker 2: she was studying for the bar. Right so she would
Speaker 2: be calling me like, Hey, I'm at the library. I'll
Speaker 2: be home at ten. And she'd be like, where you at.
Speaker 2: I'll be on my way to Miami, you know, like
Speaker 2: did my fought the deal? Carter would be like, hey,
Speaker 2: I got you some tickets at the airport. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It is in Miami, So I'll be
Speaker 2: in Miami. And she was just like I just took
Speaker 2: her through a lot because I was trying to still navigate,
Speaker 2: you know, where I thought I should be and where
Speaker 2: I was. Was she a good woman?
Speaker 4: Oh, she was a great woman. And you blew it?
Speaker 4: Blew it. How long were y'all together? We were together
Speaker 4: sixteen years? Where we broke up?
Speaker 1: Tell the man out there, how do the and how
Speaker 1: do you identify a good woman? And what qualifies as
Speaker 1: a good woman.
Speaker 2: So that's a good question too, but that that differs
Speaker 2: from everybody.
Speaker 4: And if you don't lie to yourself. You'll find a
Speaker 4: good woman for you.
Speaker 2: Right. So me and my boys we just had a
Speaker 2: two hour conversation on Sunday about this because everyone's trying
Speaker 2: to marry me out right, So I'm ready to get
Speaker 2: marri you're gonna get married or you.
Speaker 4: Married, will i've been married, or you're gonna get married.
Speaker 2: I'm open.
Speaker 1: I like, I like the idea of marriage, or at
Speaker 1: least what is what it traditionally means, and what it
Speaker 1: stands for and everything that comes with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, absolutely, that's how I feel. I'm open.
Speaker 2: So I so I've been telling them for the probably
Speaker 2: the last three or four years. I'm in this space
Speaker 2: where I want to get married, right, but I have
Speaker 2: some strict criteria and I won't budge on you. Right,
Speaker 2: So my chick has to be pretty. I mean I.
Speaker 3: Was.
Speaker 2: I wish that I could was one of those guys
Speaker 2: that could get past looks and see that inner self,
Speaker 2: see all the interviewing. I need a little bit of
Speaker 2: that interviewing in the outside. I need no other worry
Speaker 2: on the outside. So that sometimes people deem as superficient,
Speaker 2: but it's not because the looks is what gets me. Right.
Speaker 2: The personality is what keeps me right. So for me,
Speaker 2: a good woman would be a woman that's you know,
Speaker 2: very nice looking, right, that's loyal, right, that has accomplished
Speaker 2: some things in life. Right, that's nurturing, you know, it's
Speaker 2: family orientated, right. But you have to have a great personality,
Speaker 2: Like I play a lot, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Any woman that's every dated me know, Like thest one
Speaker 2: thing they'll say is I keep them laughing.
Speaker 4: So you got to be able to laugh at yourself.
Speaker 2: And if you're not a woman that can laugh at herself,
Speaker 2: and you get a type of woman that can have fun,
Speaker 2: if you're serious a lot, you're not gonna like it
Speaker 2: because it's not who I am. Are you a player? Player?
Speaker 2: Not anymore?
Speaker 4: But I would be lying if I said I didn't
Speaker 4: have my play of days.
Speaker 2: And that's how you blew the lawyer? Oh yeah, that's
Speaker 2: how you That's.
Speaker 4: How he blew a lot of women.
Speaker 2: Any dude with any money, any dude that's you know
Speaker 2: of that that that got four or five dollars of
Speaker 2: his pocket, charismatic, nice looking.
Speaker 4: They didn't brew.
Speaker 2: A lot of nice women over that time. So she
Speaker 2: was probably the biggest one in my life. But I
Speaker 2: mean that's other women that I blew uh, because I
Speaker 2: had mature to the point where I understood, now this,
Speaker 2: this is the deal women are.
Speaker 4: Was like, how do you know when you want to
Speaker 4: get married?
Speaker 2: And I always tell you know, a man wants to
Speaker 2: be married when he understands what place a woman plays
Speaker 2: in his life and what value she brings. Because in
Speaker 2: the beginning, I really didn't even know that, you know,
Speaker 2: I just knew I loved this girl and I felt
Speaker 2: like I should be marrying her because I loved it,
Speaker 2: but I didn't understand what part she was gonna play.
Speaker 2: I was still trying to figure myself out. I remember
Speaker 2: my first house I purchased in Houston, and I was
Speaker 2: so bent on buying it on my own because I
Speaker 2: didn't want to feel like a woman helped me do
Speaker 2: anything right.
Speaker 4: And she used to be she had start.
Speaker 2: Just started making some money as an attorney, and she
Speaker 2: was like, I want to contribute. I was like, nah,
Speaker 2: I'm good son, because I wanted to feel like I
Speaker 2: did it on my own. And it was you know,
Speaker 2: my first probably first ten pieces of property.
Speaker 4: I about all of that.
Speaker 2: I always wanted to feel like I did it on
Speaker 2: my own before I had someone else help. So for
Speaker 2: me to get married, that wasn't even a good time
Speaker 2: for me to get married because I didn't even realize
Speaker 2: what I needed from a woman to help me achieve
Speaker 2: my goals because I was so hell bent on feeling
Speaker 2: like I did it on my own.
Speaker 1: So once you did it on your own, Once you
Speaker 1: did it on your own, and you got this house.
Speaker 1: Now you're still with the lawyer, right, yeah, still with attorney.
Speaker 1: He's still with the attorney. Okay, So she comes in,
Speaker 1: and do she moves in? Did she move in with you?
Speaker 4: She moved in with me?
Speaker 2: And so when she graduated at law school, she immediately
Speaker 2: moved to Houston. I mean that's the reason why I
Speaker 2: came to Houston. Okay, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 1: Because she wanted to do all in Gas where she
Speaker 1: graduated from Thirdgood.
Speaker 4: No, she went to No, she graduated from Marquette Law.
Speaker 1: Okay, so she moves in. Everything's good for a minute,
Speaker 1: but you still a player, and you ain't got no
Speaker 1: intention on slowing down. Now, at what point do you
Speaker 1: slow down? At what point do you catch your snap
Speaker 1: and say, man, you know what, I think I can
Speaker 1: do this law thing do you think you can be
Speaker 1: a lawyer? Lawyer man too, So when you get to
Speaker 1: the point, So that's another question women always ask when
Speaker 1: you get to the point when it's no fun anymore.
Speaker 1: So me dating multiple women at one time, now it
Speaker 1: would be it would be almost say a job, and
Speaker 1: I don't need any more job.
Speaker 2: I got a bunch of jobs right now, so that
Speaker 2: would be the last thing I want. I would make
Speaker 2: the joke that, like, now I'm at the point where
Speaker 2: you know, when I was twenty five thirty five, if
Speaker 2: you called me and was like, hey, it's one thirty.
Speaker 2: Some girl called me at one thirty to be like, hey,
Speaker 2: come over my house. I will be up dressed, over
Speaker 2: your crib.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And then I might have a surgery. I might have
Speaker 2: a listen, I might have a surgery at like start
Speaker 2: at six thirty and seven.
Speaker 4: I'll be cold. I'd be like, So if I get.
Speaker 2: Over our house at one thirty two o clock, uh,
Speaker 2: we do it till like two forty five. I get
Speaker 2: some sleep.
Speaker 4: I can get three hours work to sleep. I can
Speaker 4: do this.
Speaker 2: Damn. Now you call me a one thirty in morning
Speaker 2: talking come over your house, I'll be like, girl, I
Speaker 2: got my bonnet on.
Speaker 1: I'm sleep, So explain this surgery thing. Man, want to
Speaker 1: back up? Are you serious? You won't you had a
Speaker 1: bonnet on? I know, yeah, see you got I gotta
Speaker 1: ask tell you.
Speaker 2: I got asked. You know they're gonna be in the
Speaker 2: comments like bonnets.
Speaker 1: Okay, So and what was I You know, women call
Speaker 1: you ask you that you ask, Hey, I'm gonna come over.
Speaker 2: They'll be like, boy, you should have called me before
Speaker 2: I got in the bid put my body th yo
Speaker 2: put put I wrapped by her up. So that's what
Speaker 2: I got. I'm trying to remember. What was that.
Speaker 4: Man, before I went back to the bun.
Speaker 1: You said the surgery. You said, yeah, the surgery. So
Speaker 1: explain to the people what it is you do. Why
Speaker 1: would you be doing a surgery?
Speaker 2: Oh? So?
Speaker 4: I So what I do is I'm gonna the easy terms.
Speaker 2: I'm a device wrap right, but all my own distributorship now,
Speaker 2: but I sell a product for a dominant wall reconstruction
Speaker 2: and brush reconstruction. And what I do is my job
Speaker 2: is to be in there and assist the surgeon if
Speaker 2: he has any questions. So people always like, well, why
Speaker 2: would the surgeon need you don't even know how to
Speaker 2: do the surgery is the one that always to come back.
Speaker 2: He does know how to do the surgery, but it's
Speaker 2: it's your product specific that he needs to know about.
Speaker 2: So I give the example my guys that do screws.
Speaker 2: So I got a couple of pots that are distributed.
Speaker 2: They are own distributors. They sell screws by my boy
Speaker 2: Curly Johnson. So he's in every surgery right, because sometimes
Speaker 2: a surgeon might drill too far in and you know
Speaker 2: your product. You got to make sure you can get
Speaker 2: him out of trouble because he's going to turn to you.
Speaker 2: You know, if he's too far in with a screw
Speaker 2: he's putting screws in your back, he's going to turn
Speaker 2: to you. And you got to know the anatomy. You
Speaker 2: got to be able to tell him what which way
Speaker 2: to turn, what two to use, and everything to get
Speaker 2: that out right, So you assist him.
Speaker 4: He knows the basics. So it's like kind of a mechanic.
Speaker 2: If you got a mechanic that works on has worked
Speaker 2: on cars, have been trained up until two thousand and two,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two maybe right, and then they come out
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three or twenty four with a whole
Speaker 2: new engine. Right, there's some type of REP that goes
Speaker 2: and retrain those mechanics.
Speaker 4: Well, that's basically what reps do in the old. So
Speaker 4: they're in there to answer any question.
Speaker 2: Make sure the doctor doesn't get in trouble because if surgeons,
Speaker 2: a lot of times surgeons make a mistake, they're not
Speaker 2: gonna take it on themselves and say I made a mistake,
Speaker 2: I did something wrong.
Speaker 4: They're gonna say your product was crappy.
Speaker 2: Right. Are they going to just say that the person
Speaker 2: took a turn for the worst. Yeah, but we're just
Speaker 2: talking about implants. Yeah. Yeah, if they're doing the surgery,
Speaker 2: yeah maybe. But if they're implanting something. That's a story
Speaker 2: circulating right now. This woman who introduced her boyfriend to
Speaker 2: her husband and other boyfriend. Yeah, I've said that's a
Speaker 2: lot of that man going on. What do they call that? Polgican?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Man? What do you think about that? Is that?
Speaker 1: Is that something that's doable in a loving relationship? And
Speaker 1: is it sustainable for some people for women, for women
Speaker 1: to do because typically men would the role would be
Speaker 1: a man without multiple women. This woman has three men.
Speaker 1: It just depends on the dude running up there.
Speaker 2: It depends it depends on the dude destroying her. This
Speaker 2: defends on the dude. Man.
Speaker 4: I couldn't. I couldn't be in that.
Speaker 2: Those dudes look.
Speaker 1: Like the simps when they when she when she introduced them,
Speaker 1: they embraced each other like they like like he was
Speaker 1: a long lost friend or something.
Speaker 2: So this is the deal with me. I don't want
Speaker 2: to talk about anybody, but listen to me. They are simps.
Speaker 2: Like you got to have a simple mentality for you
Speaker 2: to even be in that situation. I just don't see idy.
Speaker 2: And I know this is overused. I don't see a
Speaker 2: lot of after men doing hunters. Man. Yes, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know any after men, but that have been
Speaker 2: to the dawn of time were men. I mean, if
Speaker 2: you look at even the animal kingdom, it's always the
Speaker 2: alpha lion, right, and then he gets what he wants right,
Speaker 2: and then there's whole slew of guys that mess with
Speaker 2: the other lioners right, and they all take turns on that.
Speaker 4: But when the when, the when the when? The main
Speaker 4: guys say would.
Speaker 2: Get out the work? When when the apha, the male
Speaker 2: enterprise say y'all, this is mine.
Speaker 4: Don't nobody else touch them.
Speaker 2: So, you know, women would like us to believe that
Speaker 2: you can be like that and still be alpha.
Speaker 4: I just don't know that.
Speaker 2: Just don't see me in a type of alpha mentality
Speaker 2: to me. So they do seem like simps to me.
Speaker 2: Can a woman participate in that type of lifestyle and
Speaker 2: be respected not by other men, by the three guys
Speaker 2: that she would but no other man would do that?
Speaker 2: Other women don't even do it. I always tell women,
Speaker 2: so you ask me stuff, and I say, women lie
Speaker 2: to themselves. Other women wouldn't even like that. Like if
Speaker 2: you if she told her friend that she was had
Speaker 2: three dudes banging her, she be in bed with you
Speaker 2: telling you how, you know, excuse my friends. Man? That
Speaker 2: bit nasty as hell? You know, all them.
Speaker 4: That's what that's saying in my comments sex on Instagram
Speaker 4: right right?
Speaker 2: They killing us? Right? They like all that bit nastiest hell. So,
Speaker 2: I mean, if women don't like it, what you think
Speaker 2: a man is gonna do?
Speaker 4: If they don't say, it's okay?
Speaker 2: Right that because women tell all you gotta do is
Speaker 2: hang around some women hear them talk, They by themselves.
Speaker 4: They tell you how they really fit.
Speaker 2: Like all that stuff that women say when they with
Speaker 2: you and try to get you to buy into, they
Speaker 2: don't think it their own selves because just like you
Speaker 2: said in your comments, I bet you there's as many
Speaker 2: women as men talking about her, dogging her about having
Speaker 2: three sexual partners at one time.
Speaker 4: This is not It's just not how it is. It's
Speaker 4: not how it's made.
Speaker 2: Y know, women, it's just a difference when it's a
Speaker 2: man to a woman as a woman to a man.
Speaker 2: I know women want to make everything equal. Now you
Speaker 2: got this Megan the Stallion and Cardi B thinking now,
Speaker 2: But it's just it's not They don't even think like that.
Speaker 2: You know, Cardi B talk about getting this money and
Speaker 2: sucking a dick for free. I mean suck a dick
Speaker 2: for money and sucking the dick for whatever she can get.
Speaker 2: And she'll fuck your friend and your cousin's friend. But
Speaker 2: she's sitting running up behind a dude that cheat on her.
Speaker 2: So why would you sell yourself out like that? M So,
Speaker 2: I mean I could. That's all I can tell you.
Speaker 2: What if she was pretty, I don't care. She's pretty
Speaker 2: and pretty go a long way with me. I don't
Speaker 2: hate the currency is pretty. What if she was gorgeous
Speaker 2: like drop dead bad to.
Speaker 4: The bond, I wouldn't like her and you could just
Speaker 4: get I.
Speaker 2: Would unless you get from her. Oprah probably could do
Speaker 2: it to me like me and you in face. We
Speaker 2: could hit Oprah because it'd be all of that's the
Speaker 2: type of money and change your lifestyle for.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it.
Speaker 1: I really do have to be I have to be
Speaker 1: attracted to a woman to do that, and I have
Speaker 1: to have it was Oprah Man, I have to be attracted.
Speaker 2: To one billion Opra.
Speaker 1: The money don't mean money, don't mean that mean it
Speaker 1: gets the money now. The money don't mean money money.
Speaker 1: Money can't see your convictions cannot be compromised by money
Speaker 1: under no circumstances, whether money is a dollar or a
Speaker 1: billion dollars. If you have convictions, you stand. That's why
Speaker 1: you have convictions, because you.
Speaker 2: Stand on.
Speaker 4: So so everybody got that price, I believe.
Speaker 1: I don't think so because I because I remember going
Speaker 1: into the entertainment industry, and well before going into the
Speaker 1: entertainment industry, then my brother we sleep in the bed
Speaker 1: together up until we were in this our seventh grade.
Speaker 1: He was eighth grade, and we used to have a
Speaker 1: whole lot of talking and stuff. Man, just all these conversations,
Speaker 1: and I remember us. I remember us one day talking
Speaker 1: about life, like what we would do for money, and
Speaker 1: we bet I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't sleep with
Speaker 1: a man for money. I wouldn't kill my family for money.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's so if you don't know what
Speaker 1: you will do for money, you better know what you
Speaker 1: won't do for honey. So I see that you do
Speaker 1: know what you will do for money. We will sleep
Speaker 1: with Oprah. I wouldn't because I wouldn't because I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't because I couldn't get hard.
Speaker 2: I couldn't. I probably would be in the same position,
Speaker 2: but I would find a way. I couldn't get excited,
Speaker 2: I couldn't get a riud. I'll find away with Oprah Dowg.
Speaker 2: It would have for me.
Speaker 1: For me, it has to be a chick that I'd
Speaker 1: be like, damn you, Oprah. For me, it would happen
Speaker 1: to be a chick that I'm that I'm attracted to.
Speaker 1: And you know, the trip part is this, like how
Speaker 1: do you how do you reconcile making that statement about
Speaker 1: you would sleep with Oprah for money and and then
Speaker 1: tell a woman where you get what you get if
Speaker 1: you sleep with a man from money?
Speaker 2: Well, see, I don't if you're honest with it. So
Speaker 2: if you, if you, if you so, cause it would
Speaker 2: be I mean, I'm, I'm there's a little there's a
Speaker 2: little levity there. This will be being a little facetious.
Speaker 4: But I know, I know this.
Speaker 2: If Oprah came to me and was like, yo, I
Speaker 2: really want to dig you because I'm like you with
Speaker 2: women like I have to be sexually especially now now.
Speaker 2: When I was twenty two years old, if you was bad,
Speaker 2: you know, it didn't take a lot. But now I
Speaker 2: have to be really, really really attracted to you to
Speaker 2: even want to be sexual with you at this point.
Speaker 2: But Oprah that type of money, and she was like,
Speaker 2: you got you get you know you got See I don't,
Speaker 2: I don't. You can do whatever you want to do
Speaker 2: with my money. I gotta be like, but I think
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, Sam is that I from what
Speaker 1: I gathered from check watching Oprah through the years, Oprah
Speaker 1: is not for us. She's not for us, She's not
Speaker 1: for she's not for black men. She's not even for
Speaker 1: black the black family nucleus, you know, black women.
Speaker 4: I believe that. I just watched her. I just watch
Speaker 4: how she talked.
Speaker 1: To women and tell women, well, you don't need a man,
Speaker 1: you know you can do this, and da da da
Speaker 1: and all these type of things, like we need each
Speaker 1: other no matter how much, no matter how much friction
Speaker 1: we have, no matter how dirty one of us do
Speaker 1: the other way, We're not going to survive without each other.
Speaker 1: Like we can win a lot of we've we've survived
Speaker 1: a lot of walls, but one war we cannot win
Speaker 1: is a the walk. I agree we can't survive agenda.
Speaker 2: I agree with that, but see it goes back time
Speaker 2: to tell her about the little Cardi b and the
Speaker 2: little Megaie stallion and how they wrap and the stuff
Speaker 2: that they rap about and they're not really about that.
Speaker 2: But I mean, Oprah, I mean, she's had stepping around forever.
Speaker 1: So he serves some purpose around. But he's there is
Speaker 1: some purpose around. He had to cover.
Speaker 2: Whatever it is. I mean, she need a man for something,
Speaker 2: so even even if it's for cover, but she needed
Speaker 2: them for something so and I think, I think, why
Speaker 2: she need a man to cover for her. I mean,
Speaker 2: I know you're getting that. I've heard people say that before.
Speaker 2: We'll say what I mean. I've heard women say like,
Speaker 2: she don't she don't really go that way and he
Speaker 2: kind of her.
Speaker 4: What do they call that?
Speaker 2: Uh No, they call something like when you got like
Speaker 2: you you you go the other way. A lot of
Speaker 2: those passes do yeah, I forgot whatever they yeah, right,
Speaker 2: yeah exactly. But uh, I mean it's a lot of
Speaker 2: it's a lot of women that do that nowadays, because
Speaker 2: I think that they got past what their mothers was
Speaker 2: trying to make when they were When mothers were like
Speaker 2: when our mothers was trying to make our sisters independent,
Speaker 2: they didn't want to make independent of men, right, That's
Speaker 2: that wasn't the deal. I don't know whenmen went to
Speaker 2: be independent of men. Independence came from you being able
Speaker 2: to pull your own weight. That's that's what that's My
Speaker 2: father taught my sisters to be independent, but not independent
Speaker 2: of men. Right.
Speaker 4: Independent he mean independent.
Speaker 2: Where you go, you grow, and then you bring then
Speaker 2: you're you're equal to whoever you want to bring in. Right,
Speaker 2: so you know everybody come in, it's independent. You're independent.
Speaker 2: I'm independent, right, But we still need women, right, So
Speaker 2: you still need a woman, right. So I don't know
Speaker 2: when this thing where it was like I don't need
Speaker 2: men at all came about. I can't even I haven't
Speaker 2: even researched it to tell you what year, because I
Speaker 2: usually researched that stuff. Where it turned from being independence
Speaker 2: and growth as opposed to independent, separate from from from
Speaker 2: from men. So I think that's I think. I think
Speaker 2: the message got hijacked at some point in time.
Speaker 1: I think the message was purposely planted and everything's working
Speaker 1: out just fine, you know, and the way that the
Speaker 1: ol oligarky wanted it to work out. You know, these
Speaker 1: the people that that try to destroy community put these
Speaker 1: programs and initiatives in place. I can see that every
Speaker 1: few years they got a new program to further subjugate us.
Speaker 4: I agree with that.
Speaker 2: I think when you look at rich families, they pushed
Speaker 2: that to be married, like they want you to meet,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, the Bushes want to mingle with
Speaker 2: the Kennedys, and the Kennedy's you know, want to you know,
Speaker 2: wringle with the mortgage and you know, you see a
Speaker 2: lot of that inner exchange between rich families. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I could believe that as long as you keep them
Speaker 2: people below you separated, then you'll be able to control
Speaker 2: the narrative, control whatever else you need to control, control them.
Speaker 2: Actually got to boys reloaded podcasts which be right back
Speaker 2: after the break.
Speaker 4: Let me put you a scenario out there. I saw
Speaker 4: this on.
Speaker 1: A video, another one of these viral videos. Should a
Speaker 1: let's say a guy is a baby dag he had
Speaker 1: as a child that he's bringing food to. This child
Speaker 1: has other siblings that are not He saw that.
Speaker 2: I saw that.
Speaker 4: He's bringing his child some McDonald's. Should he feel obligated
Speaker 4: to buy food for the other kids who are not here?
Speaker 2: So that's the word obligation, Like he shouldn't feel obligated.
Speaker 2: I would to be a nice guy. Right. And the
Speaker 2: one you're talking about, he had done it before. It
Speaker 2: wasn't like he had what if she has nine kids? Right,
Speaker 2: she had done it before. Right, he is not his children.
Speaker 2: He shouldn't have to do it every time, right, Because
Speaker 2: I saw it growing up. So my buddy across the street,
Speaker 2: my mother had three kids by my dad, and all
Speaker 2: her all her kids was about her dad by my dad.
Speaker 2: So I grew up in that type of house. I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't know anything other until like I was probably
Speaker 2: about nine years eight or nine years old, and I
Speaker 2: started hanging it with my buddy across the street. His
Speaker 2: mother had uh I think it was like eight of
Speaker 2: them with four different baby daddies, right, so if I'm
Speaker 2: not correct, for baby daddy.
Speaker 4: So I saw like he would like.
Speaker 2: There were some of her boyfriends that were coming buy
Speaker 2: food for everybody, and there were some of her her
Speaker 2: her boyfriend ever bring in stuff or not just not food,
Speaker 2: but anything, like he brought toys or whatever. He tried
Speaker 2: to bring everybody a toy, and then there were something
Speaker 2: that would just drop off just for one kid, just
Speaker 2: his daughter or his son. So I just kind of
Speaker 2: saw that. I always always thought that was strange in
Speaker 2: my opinion. You know, nine children to buy food for
Speaker 2: it is a lot. You know, I don't care what
Speaker 2: you got, but I don't I think the word obligation
Speaker 2: is the deal. You know, he's never obligated to do that,
Speaker 2: but take care of his child, you know, if you
Speaker 2: want to be a nice guy, you know, you know
Speaker 2: she got other kids in the household.
Speaker 4: You don't want them to feel bad.
Speaker 2: New kids. You ain't my daddy that.
Speaker 4: He ain't getting get ship.
Speaker 2: Then you know what I gave him one pride. Get
Speaker 2: that nigga one pride. You know what I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I actually agree with that he shouldn't feel obligated. But
Speaker 1: it is something that I would do. It was Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't even feel right. It
Speaker 1: just wouldn't even if I didn't know the kids. If
Speaker 1: I didn't it was just some kids. If my kid
Speaker 1: was just around a group of kids, I would feel awkward,
Speaker 1: right to just bring my kids and food knowing these
Speaker 1: other kids are hungry.
Speaker 2: I agree, I wouldn't feel I would like so like
Speaker 2: my son have his friends around. I always pay for
Speaker 2: everybody stuff. Like if I say, hey, grab your friends
Speaker 2: go to the movie. I never be like, well does
Speaker 2: little Jimmy have any money? You know? I just it's me.
Speaker 2: I'm going to do that, but I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: have to feel obligated to do it. I do it
Speaker 2: because my son and his friends. But if his parents
Speaker 2: started to feel obligated, like you taking your son out,
Speaker 2: you should take my son, then that's where you have it.
Speaker 4: That's where you have the issues.
Speaker 2: As I said, if I'm not mistaken. In his case,
Speaker 2: he had done it before, right, It was just that
Speaker 2: particular time where he was just like, my son is hungry.
Speaker 4: So I would have asked my son to come out
Speaker 4: the house.
Speaker 2: Maybe we would have drove around the corner if I
Speaker 2: didn't want to spend the money and then let him eat.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I would that would be hard with nine kids,
Speaker 2: that would be hard every time. I mean, just carry
Speaker 2: just carrying a bag of food.
Speaker 1: You go, tell your kids, all right, come on getting
Speaker 1: the car, your kid to get the stomach full, right,
Speaker 1: and take him back home with McDonald's on his bread
Speaker 1: with a full stomach.
Speaker 2: First of all, his son was one of the last kids.
Speaker 2: I would never procreate with a weather that has seven Now,
Speaker 2: I said, now, yeah, eight of the baby.
Speaker 1: Bingo, bingo, because I was going to come around that.
Speaker 1: I was going to come around to that.
Speaker 2: And why do men do that, because I mean, you
Speaker 2: grow up in that environment, it becomes as I told you,
Speaker 2: like growing up, it was strange to me when my
Speaker 2: parents got a divorced. Right, only other man I've ever
Speaker 2: seen in my house is my dad. So when I
Speaker 2: would go across the street to my boy Wheel's crib
Speaker 2: and his mother would have like different boyfriends they would
Speaker 2: spend the night. It would be the most foreign thing
Speaker 2: I ever seen in my life. So it's always depending
Speaker 2: on mentality and how you grow up always depends on
Speaker 2: how you look at things. Did you grow up with
Speaker 2: your dad in the house. So they got divorced when
Speaker 2: I was like six, but my dad was always around.
Speaker 2: So like, was your dad a player? Oh?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, So that's where you get it from.
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna put it all on him. Yeah, I hey, listen,
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna put it all on him. But I
Speaker 2: mean I grew up in that environment. My boy, My
Speaker 2: family is boy heavy. So we got probably more boys
Speaker 2: in the family, especially on the Williamson side than we
Speaker 2: have you know, you know girls, and the women catered
Speaker 2: to them, like even my father and so all my
Speaker 2: father and all his brothers died of cancer, every one
Speaker 2: of them. And whether they had a wife or not.
Speaker 2: My grandmother had two sisters. I'm sorry. My grandmother had
Speaker 2: two girls and six boys, and them two girls took
Speaker 2: her all those boys until they died, like whether they
Speaker 2: had a wife or whatever. And my grandmother catered to
Speaker 2: her boys. She my mother always said that was her
Speaker 2: write this down, Williamson. Girls have them, cater them, and
Speaker 2: that's that's how I grew up in a family like
Speaker 2: that and my my father. They were very apha males.
Speaker 2: Every one of them, every one of them own their
Speaker 2: own businesses. Every one of them had a job, and
Speaker 2: they also had side hustles, own their own business, hustled
Speaker 2: all of that. So that's what that's to me. And
Speaker 2: I grew up under right, So I don't know anything
Speaker 2: other than that. So for me to go in and
Speaker 2: see a one with six kids like that would be
Speaker 2: a total turnoff to me.
Speaker 4: I couldn't. I couldn't do that. What's your limit?
Speaker 2: Kids? Wise? I would prefer one with no kids. And
Speaker 2: I know that's wrong because I got kids, but I
Speaker 2: would prefer with no kids. But if you do have
Speaker 2: a kid, a boy that the age of my son,
Speaker 2: and how old is your son? My son is twelve,
Speaker 2: the young one, the youngest one is twelve, so at
Speaker 2: least you know at least his age.
Speaker 1: What type of advice do you give your twelve year
Speaker 1: old signed by girls?
Speaker 2: It's crazy because he is girl crazy. So right now
Speaker 2: I'm just telling him to seek out women that it's
Speaker 2: going in that same direction.
Speaker 4: The girls is going the same direction. So we talk
Speaker 4: about this all the time.
Speaker 2: I'm like, because he had a little girlfriend that she
Speaker 2: would like skip school, skip class classes with him and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. Said, I'm telling you right now, man,
Speaker 2: that's not the girl you want to be with. I'm
Speaker 2: like already, like I'm like at twelve.
Speaker 4: Years skipping class at twelve at.
Speaker 2: Twelve at twelve, man, you will be surprised at what
Speaker 2: these little kids are doing. So I'm like, man, you
Speaker 2: need to be with the girls. He got I think
Speaker 2: I name is Sophie. So it's one little girl named Sophie.
Speaker 4: Where is Sophie going?
Speaker 2: No, No, she's not skipping class. It's the other girl
Speaker 2: skips class. I forgot it going. Man, they'll go up
Speaker 2: to the Starbucks and you know what I'm saying, or
Speaker 2: they're just being a class. It just ain't I mean
Speaker 2: in school, they just ain't. They'll find somewhere in school.
Speaker 2: I did that in high school, not in junior high.
Speaker 2: I did it in high school like that, but they're
Speaker 2: doing it a lot earlier now. So but there's this
Speaker 2: other little girl. He I told him. She played sports,
Speaker 2: She played the piano, right, she she on the iron rod.
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, that's the chick that you should be liking,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: I was like this other one.
Speaker 2: Now, I was like, don't even get yourself used to
Speaker 2: take it easy. I was like, go for the hard one.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, don't do easy, I said.
Speaker 2: I know, as a male sometimes and that's what gets
Speaker 2: us in trouble. Sometimes we take easy instead of going
Speaker 2: for hard. And that's that's that'll always get you in trouble.
Speaker 2: That got me into it was he receptive.
Speaker 4: He I think he getting it. I think he's getting.
Speaker 2: It, you know. But I always tell him every morning
Speaker 2: we do this ritual. I say, look in the mirror,
Speaker 2: what you see and he gotta tell me, you know.
Speaker 2: And at first it used to be rehearsed.
Speaker 5: You'd be I see smart kid, an intellectual kid, you know,
Speaker 5: see a handsome kid. But now he's starting to speak
Speaker 5: it like I'm like, because whoever you feel, whatever you
Speaker 5: see looking out that mirror is the way you're gonna
Speaker 5: drive yourself right. Even the mistakes I made, I always
Speaker 5: knew I was saying Williamson because my daddy beat it
Speaker 5: in his boy's head.
Speaker 2: He's like, you you the son of Maurice Williamson. You
Speaker 2: know you this is how you roll. Brother. He's like,
Speaker 2: that's how you do it. And so he always was like,
Speaker 2: what you see when you're looking in mirror? Brother? You
Speaker 2: know that's our father talk. What do you see? You're
Speaker 2: looking at the mirror?
Speaker 3: Brother?
Speaker 2: And I tell him and he said, well, did that's
Speaker 2: how you That's how you should.
Speaker 4: Be living your life.
Speaker 2: So whatever you see in that mirror is what you're
Speaker 2: gonna do. So that's my biggest advice with him. I
Speaker 2: want him to see what he feels that he's.
Speaker 4: Gonna grow up to be.
Speaker 1: Do you have conversations with him about loyalty and sexual assault,
Speaker 1: loyalty to his girl, to a girl?
Speaker 2: Not yet, because that's a little bit too deep. I
Speaker 2: don't even even though I know at that age, because
Speaker 2: I didn't call him in his pot just looking that stuff.
Speaker 4: I haven't gotten deep into the sex talk. Yeah you
Speaker 4: should once he.
Speaker 2: Turned Yeah, I mean I'm getting there a little bit,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But probably next year we
Speaker 2: need an eighth I know he's going to high school.
Speaker 2: I probably have a deep, deep talk with.
Speaker 1: You should have the conversation before because he may catch
Speaker 1: you off guard. You may think, Okay, now he's in
Speaker 1: the eighth grade, but he just beat you by a
Speaker 1: few weeks. Yeah, he just did something, you know, a
Speaker 1: few weeks ago, and you're thinking that you're headed.
Speaker 2: Ye, you're headed. He might be right. That might be
Speaker 2: something I need to consider.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I started talking to my son very very Yeah,
Speaker 1: because if you think about it, we can have a
Speaker 1: much better We can have a much better like relationship overall.
Speaker 1: We can have a much more conducive relationship amongst us
Speaker 1: if we start talking to our boys and not waiting
Speaker 1: on the girls to be you know, assaulted or or
Speaker 1: about or whatever. If we talk to our boys about accountability.
Speaker 1: We talked to our boys about respectability, and we let
Speaker 1: them know. Like I told my son early, look like
Speaker 1: as many as you want, date as many as you want,
Speaker 1: but when you pick one, you pick one. Nobody ever
Speaker 1: told me that I have to learn baptism through five
Speaker 1: by five, I assured. And the same thing with sexual assault.
Speaker 1: No don't only mean no, It don't just mean no.
Speaker 1: It also means that you you when you follow that
Speaker 1: that rule, you don't put yourself in a situation where
Speaker 1: you lose your freedom, where you can lose your respect,
Speaker 1: your reputation, your honor.
Speaker 2: You see. And so when I haven't had that specific
Speaker 2: conversation with him, but I always talk to him about
Speaker 2: like so when I talk about looking in that mirror,
Speaker 2: I always talk to him about.
Speaker 4: How he sees himself right, and that GUIDs you right.
Speaker 2: So as a kid, So since you talked about me
Speaker 2: and my boys always talk about what we got away
Speaker 2: with then and what you can give away with now.
Speaker 2: But that was one fundamental thing that I always had
Speaker 2: to separated me for a lot of my boys is
Speaker 2: I always thought like I always had, for the lack
Speaker 2: of a better word, I just had a big ego.
Speaker 2: So I never put myself in a situation where I
Speaker 2: even felt like I had to do anything that remotely
Speaker 2: came to sexual assault for the simple fact.
Speaker 4: I always like, if woman won't me, you know, she
Speaker 4: gonna come to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I had that same mentality. But a lot of these
Speaker 1: boys they don't know they're not being taught.
Speaker 2: And you have to be.
Speaker 1: Purposeful about, you know, dealing with these kids and having
Speaker 1: these conversations because you can't just think, oh, he'll get it,
Speaker 1: he'll figure out. He already knows when you look in
Speaker 1: the mirror, who you see respect, honor, courage, bravery and
Speaker 1: you know, all of these things. But sometimes with all
Speaker 1: the times, really you have to tell them what those
Speaker 1: things mean and that type of actions that are consistent
Speaker 1: with those titles.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So if our boys, if we we teach our girls
Speaker 1: to be virtuous and you know, don't wear those type
Speaker 1: of clothes, don't wear provocative clothes. You know, be a lady,
Speaker 1: don't be sleeping around, and d well, we gotta teach
Speaker 1: our boys the same thing. Don't be sleeping around. Don't
Speaker 1: be sleeping around. You know, be careful about the type
Speaker 1: of girl that you pick. You know, because I preach
Speaker 1: that the person that you picked, that you choose to
Speaker 1: be in a relationship with, and specifically the one you
Speaker 1: choose to pro create with and would be one of
Speaker 1: the greatest responsibilities and decisions in your life, that person
Speaker 1: who you choose to pro create with.
Speaker 2: Absolutely because I've made some mistakes. So yeah, I agree
Speaker 2: with you on that, and you know what, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: implement that because I never really you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: When you when you when.
Speaker 2: They start hitting about twelve thirteen years old, you're saying
Speaker 2: what's too early or what's too late? You know? And
Speaker 2: now that you say that, I'm definitely gonna implant and
Speaker 2: implement that in my daily discussion with him. Yeah. I damn.
Speaker 1: They don't even believe that it's that discussion can happen
Speaker 1: too early, just for simple fact that if you think
Speaker 1: about we teach our kids. We teach our kids about
Speaker 1: money early on, real real early as early as three
Speaker 1: four five years old. We teaching them, were giving them
Speaker 1: a little small lessons about money. We teach them, you know,
Speaker 1: about budgeting.
Speaker 2: We teach them.
Speaker 1: We we sew into them goals. If they have something
Speaker 1: that they want to invent, some type of company they
Speaker 1: want to start, we get right behind them and we
Speaker 1: push him. I know a little kid that started investing
Speaker 1: in stocks when he was eleven years old. His parents,
Speaker 1: his mother specifically saw it in him early on. He
Speaker 1: was asking questions about it, and moms, okay, well let
Speaker 1: me go buy a book. Mom went and bought a book,
Speaker 1: and she educated herself on stocks. She didn't even know
Speaker 1: anything about stocks. But man, I gotta get that woman's
Speaker 1: some praise. Man, that woman, she saw it in him
Speaker 1: early on. This is what he want to do. Let
Speaker 1: me go educate myself so I can help him get that.
Speaker 1: So shots out to all the parents out there, who's
Speaker 1: swing to your kids, who really.
Speaker 4: Who really see the potential.
Speaker 1: In them and and and put them in in spaces
Speaker 1: where they can actually blossom and realize their goals. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know that that I agree with because Cooper's had
Speaker 1: some type of businesses he was seven years old, so
Speaker 1: I definitely agree with you on that.
Speaker 2: So I mean that that's definitely see. So I learned
Speaker 2: something today because I definitely was like when do I
Speaker 2: talk have this deep dive conversation with and like he
Speaker 2: crazy enough, so I don't ways put too much in
Speaker 2: his head. But you know, I agree with what you say.
Speaker 2: Got to boys reloaded podcasts will be right back after
Speaker 2: this break.
Speaker 4: What what are you?
Speaker 1: What is the answer for all this bickering going on
Speaker 1: between black men and black women? You know, how how
Speaker 1: do we how do we have like health conversations to
Speaker 1: where you see my viewpoint, I see your viewpoint. We
Speaker 1: come together because we both understand that we need each other.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like, you know, these companies exist because
Speaker 1: of as a relationship and there's a certain level of
Speaker 1: respect that they have for their employees, and employees got
Speaker 1: to have a certain level of respect for the company
Speaker 1: and their supervisors and so on and song. So the
Speaker 1: company is not gonna just shut the doors. They're gonna
Speaker 1: find somebody that fits the model, their work model, right,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna continue to grow and advance.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So we don't really have a choice but to figure
Speaker 1: it out. How do we figure it out? What's like
Speaker 1: one of the first steps, like having honest conversations. That's
Speaker 1: the biggest thing. I think that's the hardest thing for
Speaker 1: people to do and be honest with themselves. You know,
Speaker 1: last time we was on here, we was talking.
Speaker 2: About, uh, what's his name, Samuel Kevin Samuels, right, And
Speaker 2: it's funny I always tell to women and they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: you think like Kevin Samuels. I was like, I actually
Speaker 2: think like, you know, love Guru saying Williamson. But I
Speaker 2: do understand some of the things that he did. But
Speaker 2: one of the biggest things that he was saying that
Speaker 2: he did it in a way that sensationalized his his
Speaker 2: his his point of view so that he could get
Speaker 2: you know, monetize it. But what he was saying was
Speaker 2: everybody needs to be honest with themselves. Right, and if
Speaker 2: people are more honest with themselves, like there's there has
Speaker 2: became a time that everybody wants to be paid three
Speaker 2: times what they worth, right, And people women sometimes, I
Speaker 2: mean have sometimes have a problem with really giving theirself
Speaker 2: a critical look at herself critically and being honest with
Speaker 2: themselves about who they are. Right. I think if people
Speaker 2: start to do that more have honest conversations about who
Speaker 2: they are, I think that me against you thinking would
Speaker 2: go away, right because people would be more willing to
Speaker 2: you know, and I hate to say like like use
Speaker 2: the terms that he was using, but like, you know,
Speaker 2: if you're a seven and you should be with a seven,
Speaker 2: if you honest with yourself, that's nothing wrong with that, right.
Speaker 2: The problem is how the world has you know, evolved
Speaker 2: in our environment as involved in us, you know, telling
Speaker 2: women they should be you know, they all tense. It's
Speaker 2: funny like you as any woman she a ten, right,
Speaker 2: and you should think you're the greatest person in the world,
Speaker 2: but you should also be be honest, you know, so
Speaker 2: I give I put it in sports analogy. I was
Speaker 2: talking to my son about this recently. I was like,
Speaker 2: in sports I knew what I could do when I
Speaker 2: couldn't do right, So I became Because I was never
Speaker 2: the greatest athlete growing up, my cousins was better. You know.
Speaker 2: I had to do some cats on the street that
Speaker 2: was better. You know. Matter of fact, the whole hit
Speaker 2: the street was better than me as a kid in sports.
Speaker 2: But no one got a scholarship, right. I was the
Speaker 2: only one that got a scholarship, got my college. This
Speaker 2: is what my father paid zero. But I got that
Speaker 2: because I knew what I was good at, right. I
Speaker 2: know I was a hitter, right, so I know I
Speaker 2: was a hitter. I tear your head off, I did.
Speaker 2: So I did that to the fullest extent. I wasn't
Speaker 2: a guy that was gonna be a lockdown corner, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I wasn't gonna be the guy
Speaker 2: that I was gonna catch all the figuretip catches. So
Speaker 2: because I concentrated on what I knew, bruising people, trying
Speaker 2: to hurt the other person, it took me a long way.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's the same thing you
Speaker 2: look at somebody like, you know, did his Robin and
Speaker 2: your boy with the Golden State right now, Draymond Green.
Speaker 2: The reason why Draymond Green is great, it's not that
Speaker 2: he'll give you ten points of thirty points. He knows
Speaker 2: exactly what he does well, right, and that's rebound costs
Speaker 2: had it.
Speaker 4: Giving people's head all.
Speaker 2: He is a modern day robbing, right, And because Robin
Speaker 2: knew what he was, he revolutionized that specialized a rebounding.
Speaker 2: I was never a person that did that, right. So,
Speaker 2: because if you know who you are, then that's what
Speaker 2: you go for. That's that's how that's the limits you set.
Speaker 2: You know, that's what you get for yourself when you
Speaker 2: think that you should be here or you here, you know,
Speaker 2: a vice versa. That's what everything gets mixed up, right,
Speaker 2: And that's where people have problems. Women have problems because
Speaker 2: I think women have more problems with it than men.
Speaker 4: Because we taught who we are they want.
Speaker 1: I was I was about to say that because I
Speaker 1: know that a guy who doesn't make good money, like
Speaker 1: really good money.
Speaker 4: Even told that he's he's he's going to be told that.
Speaker 1: He believes that, and so he don't He's not going
Speaker 1: to go try to go get a holly berry, right.
Speaker 1: He knows that. Look that that's how my pay scaled.
Speaker 1: But a woman could be like, you know, that's that's
Speaker 1: set in that six or whatever that you talk about
Speaker 1: that five, and she thinks she can go get you
Speaker 1: know that she could go get that she deserves.
Speaker 2: So if you think you deserve a tad, you know,
Speaker 2: even though you never get it, you still feel that's
Speaker 2: you're still shooting for that.
Speaker 1: Right and you're still looking down on the guy exactly,
Speaker 1: that's actually where you are.
Speaker 2: Right, That's how you miss out. And that's what he
Speaker 2: was saying. And that's what I always say. So if
Speaker 2: you be honest, like that's the hardest thing, the hardest.
Speaker 2: That girl asked me this recently. She said, what do
Speaker 2: you right? She said, what do you think you are?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 2: I said, I'm a strong eight.
Speaker 4: She was like, you eight a ten? I said, I
Speaker 4: lose these fifteen pounds.
Speaker 2: I pushed myself over to I said, I pushed myself
Speaker 2: until eight point five. I was like, you had another
Speaker 2: zero in my name, I'd be a nine nine and
Speaker 2: a half. But the eighty percent of anything is great. Like, hey,
Speaker 2: she was like, why would you not? I was like,
Speaker 2: because I'm honest with myself. I was like, I think
Speaker 2: I'm an extremely nice looking. God, I think I'm very telligy.
Speaker 2: I got swagged, right, I said, but people to be
Speaker 2: at an eight eight point five?
Speaker 4: I mean that's pretty, that's pretty honest with myself. All
Speaker 4: you got to do is go get some of that
Speaker 4: open money.
Speaker 2: Right, go go put me out of ten.
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: But see, but see a man could be honest with that.
Speaker 2: With that, I make magnificit money. I've done very well
Speaker 2: for myself, right, But I know if you put me,
Speaker 2: you give me jay Z money. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Because jay Z is not the nicest looking guy. But
Speaker 2: I don't think no woman wouldn't say his total package
Speaker 2: and a team with most women? Will you know most?
Speaker 2: He probably get most women if he wanted to, Right,
Speaker 2: I said most, I say all, because there's always that
Speaker 2: one Chiger I wouldn't. Okay, I get you. I'm saying
Speaker 2: he would get most, he would give most women. But
Speaker 2: men could be more critical of themselves. Because she just
Speaker 2: felt like I should have said I was a teen.
Speaker 2: I was like, but I'm not. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Eight point five? Man, that's I'd go anywhere to cut
Speaker 2: tree with that. You know what I'm saying. Can't go
Speaker 2: any where. The country will dominate. Yo, you used to't
Speaker 2: get a ten and get nine tens. I'll mean, you know,
Speaker 2: it ain't too many of them in the world, you know, So,
Speaker 2: I mean that's the d I think I've never met
Speaker 2: a woman. Say, well, let me take that. I've met
Speaker 2: a couple of girls. Say when you ask her and
Speaker 2: they gave them a they gave you a legitimate, somewhere
Speaker 2: in the area number. When you say, you know, I've
Speaker 2: talked to a girl that was a six, it was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I was ten. I was like, on what date? What
Speaker 2: more than, what type of makeup did you? You can't
Speaker 2: be a six of your ten, There's no way. But
Speaker 2: and that's how she carried herself like she was a ted.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about women? That women makeup? So
Speaker 1: that's crazy. So I used to date a makeup artists, right,
Speaker 1: and on the surface, I hated makeup. I once again,
Speaker 1: my mom didn't marry word much makeup. The family I
Speaker 1: grew in, the women didn't wear much makeup. So I
Speaker 1: was I'm not a.
Speaker 2: Great fan of makeup. Well, let me take that, but
Speaker 2: I'm a fan of makeup. You put on makeup to
Speaker 2: enhance your beauty. And that's a whole difference than having
Speaker 2: a beat face trying to cover it up. Having a
Speaker 2: beat face is something totally different.
Speaker 4: You know, putting up, putting a little you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You know, you line your nose a little bit, you
Speaker 2: can contour your face a little bit or whatever, you know,
Speaker 2: a little foundation, you know. But you know, when you
Speaker 2: got the whole layers and layers and your nose is
Speaker 2: you know, your nose this why But after you get
Speaker 2: through it looked like it looked like it's that big.
Speaker 2: That's just just too much because it's just hiding who
Speaker 2: you are. But I mean, I don't really like weave.
Speaker 2: So every girl I've ever had they took up. I
Speaker 2: made him take the weave out while we would date.
Speaker 2: Every check I've ever had took the weave out that
Speaker 2: if she had we.
Speaker 1: What would have happened if one of them decided I'm
Speaker 1: not taking the weave out. I'm talking about one of
Speaker 1: them that you really really liked, you was in love with.
Speaker 1: Which one did you did you find? Did you fall
Speaker 1: in love with it before she took it out of you?
Speaker 2: Better? So that's a good question because the girl was
Speaker 2: that was a makeup artist used to work like, and
Speaker 2: what's crazy is she was more beautiful without the makeup,
Speaker 2: like when she do the fresh face. Oh she was
Speaker 2: very hard to tell it convinced woman that she was
Speaker 2: stunning with this fresh face, but like she put up
Speaker 2: all the makeup or sometimes you I was like, like
Speaker 2: we would go to my corporate function. I was like,
Speaker 2: she was like, well, I word it because trying to
Speaker 2: sell it. Yeah, because she said this is my business.
Speaker 2: So I got that. So to ask you a question,
Speaker 2: I fell in love with her. I want to marry
Speaker 2: this chick, and I accepted it. So I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just don't like weed. It just feels like it
Speaker 2: feels like Easter egg hurt on your chest or so
Speaker 2: when I Easter egg, he's the egg grass when you know,
Speaker 2: you know, eas the egg grass like that Easter egg
Speaker 2: grass when you put it on your chest. So I
Speaker 2: don't I don't really like. I don't really like weed.
Speaker 2: But as I said, I I fell in love with
Speaker 2: this chick with it, So I don't know. I just
Speaker 2: know I don't like the smell of it, none of it.
Speaker 1: What do you think about that millionaire soccer guy who's smart?
Speaker 1: Who I played he's smart his wife or his former wife. Listen,
Speaker 1: it's a strange wife and put all of the assets.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: I said that to all my boys.
Speaker 2: Is married. So I think he a smart, a very
Speaker 2: smart guy. So I remember, I don't know if I
Speaker 2: told you that. Me and you was talking one time.
Speaker 2: I was telling my uncle came to me. Now, this
Speaker 2: guy has been worked since he was seventeen years old
Speaker 2: and a mass of little small fortune, right well off,
Speaker 2: retired at fifty five, can do whatever he want to do.
Speaker 2: So he got married when he was sixty. And he
Speaker 2: came to me and he asked me, he said, should
Speaker 2: I do a prenup? And I was just like, hell yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like all the sweating tears you did? I
Speaker 2: mean because he wasn't a guy that got it because
Speaker 2: made that money. Because he just had a great, a
Speaker 2: super high paining job. He sacrificed a lot, paid a lot,
Speaker 2: made good investments, didn't mess off his money. So when
Speaker 2: he had fifty five, he was straight. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. He sacrificed a lot, He deprived his stuff
Speaker 2: of a lot. My uncle was so cheap he was
Speaker 2: when of those uncles like he would know what the
Speaker 2: temperature was because I grew up in the Midwest where.
Speaker 4: And he come in and it was hotter.
Speaker 2: He'll go, look at you, look at the thirdst stat
Speaker 2: what the thirdstats say? That's that's who he was, he said,
Speaker 2: He said, what was what you go? What should I
Speaker 2: do if she get angry? If I say she got
Speaker 2: side of prenup? And I said, I said, uh, the
Speaker 2: prenup only matters that she don't love you anymore. That's
Speaker 2: what you tell him. I said, the predn up only
Speaker 2: matters if you don't love me anymore. As long as
Speaker 2: you love me, were good. So I think he felt
Speaker 2: like that too, like as long as we in love,
Speaker 2: it didn't matter. It didn't because I'm I'm pretty sure
Speaker 2: she had access to all the money. Anywhere they went
Speaker 2: was paid for it. She lived the lifestyle. He gave
Speaker 2: her the lifestyle. It did not matter until she wanted
Speaker 2: to take half this man money. So I think it
Speaker 2: was smart. Yeah, and and and and friend of mine
Speaker 2: sent me some better. I don't know if you see
Speaker 2: this one. I forgot who's a billionaire, but he took
Speaker 2: his wife. They been married forty two years. She's probably
Speaker 2: about fifteen, twenty years younger than him, and they was
Speaker 2: married like twenty five years something like that, was married
Speaker 2: like twenty twenty five years, and she she went to
Speaker 2: go did a divorce and they had been divorced since
Speaker 2: the fifth year.
Speaker 4: Did you see that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he took it at dr No.
Speaker 1: No, No, they had they had been they had been
Speaker 1: divorced since like the six months, the six month.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he took it to the DRR. Yeah, and divorced her.
Speaker 2: But they was together.
Speaker 1: They lost together twenty years. They were together twenty years
Speaker 1: and then she filed for it. This was a younger woman, right,
Speaker 1: And she filed for divorce after twenty years. And he
Speaker 1: said that he divorced her then because he knew that
Speaker 1: eventually she would leave him.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: It's a cold game, man, It's a cold game. It's
Speaker 1: a relationship. Do you ever get any pressure from from
Speaker 1: women when you state your opinion because you're this guy
Speaker 1: who uh is a basically relationship guru. Your love guru
Speaker 1: is that anytime when you meet a woman and you're
Speaker 1: interested in her, you want her to be interested in you.
Speaker 1: But she's she's hesitant, she has some trepidation because of
Speaker 1: your your reputation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean you anytime you a
Speaker 2: guy that's been out here for a while, I mean,
Speaker 2: you're gonna deal with a little bit of that. I'm
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about, mainly just just knowing that, OKAYU.
Speaker 4: I've only had that one one time.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually just recently I had too man, bad bad
Speaker 2: and she just didn't trust you. She's just like, she
Speaker 2: don't like dudes that be all on Instagram and doing
Speaker 2: talk radio and you know, podcast. And I was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I ain't mad at you. I have a big personality.
Speaker 4: Ye.
Speaker 2: I was like, baby, you know, if you don't like it,
Speaker 2: then you don't like it. I can't do nothing about it.
Speaker 2: So I never upset if some woman doesn't like something
Speaker 2: about me. I'm like, I'm glad she got it out
Speaker 2: early on.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of advice that you that obviously that
Speaker 1: you can offer for people that are in relationships, are
Speaker 1: people that want to enter into relationships. But one of
Speaker 1: the most significant pieces of advice that you can share
Speaker 1: right now, I'm.
Speaker 2: Telling you it all boils now that people don't lie
Speaker 2: to themselves about anything anything. I was talking to a
Speaker 2: friend of mine and she was telling me that her
Speaker 2: husband had died, right, and then she said that she
Speaker 2: wanted a relationship with this type of guy, right, but
Speaker 2: she don't like that type of guy. I was like,
Speaker 2: you like jazzy dudes, Like you like dudes that like
Speaker 2: when they walk in the room, everybody pay attention to them.
Speaker 2: And she was like, but I've had that, and I
Speaker 2: loved my husband when he died, but you know, we
Speaker 2: had issues, blah blah blah. I was like, but you're
Speaker 2: not gonna be happy with that other dude, so you'll
Speaker 2: be lying to yourself, right, Ill be like, you'll be
Speaker 2: lying to yourself. You get that other guy, it'll be
Speaker 2: good for the first couple of two or three years,
Speaker 2: but then all of a sudden, you'll be resorting back
Speaker 2: to the guy that you wanted. That's why so many
Speaker 2: women are happy that's married. Like, do you know how
Speaker 2: many women cheat that's married? Like it's ridiculous now, because
Speaker 2: I believe my hypothesis is most women married for the
Speaker 2: wrong reasons. One of the things is most of the
Speaker 2: women dudes that they marry men. Me and my partners
Speaker 2: had an argument about this. I would say, and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna ask you this question, do you think that most
Speaker 2: people are married to the man or the woman that's
Speaker 2: their first choice.
Speaker 1: No, absolutely not, because I know as far as like
Speaker 1: with women. When it comes to women, women marry men
Speaker 1: that they.
Speaker 2: Can live with.
Speaker 1: Yes, so okay, they want to be with him, but
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna be able to live with that, right,
Speaker 1: I can live with him.
Speaker 2: I want, I really want to be with him, but
Speaker 2: a lot of women pay attention to him or I
Speaker 2: want to really I really want to be with him,
Speaker 2: but because of his money, then I would have to
Speaker 2: deal with this.
Speaker 4: But they really like that. I respect the girl. She
Speaker 4: this other girl I was talking to.
Speaker 2: She was just like, Oh, I already know whatever man
Speaker 2: I married ain't gonna be totally right.
Speaker 4: She was like, cause I like those type of dudes.
Speaker 2: So she was like, so if I'm married, I go
Speaker 2: into it knowing that that's what it is.
Speaker 1: But is she also going into it with the idea
Speaker 1: that she's gonna cheat.
Speaker 2: That he's gonna cheat, that she gonna I think I
Speaker 2: think she's gonna be lawyer. I think she would be.
Speaker 2: There's some women that accept it. I mean, you know
Speaker 2: there's women out there, you know, I want to put
Speaker 2: it on athletes and irritators or anything. But I mean
Speaker 2: the lifestyle. It You're privy to a lot, right, So
Speaker 2: if I'm if I'm married, you know, Willie deep, like
Speaker 2: when Willie d was the hottest ever. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Women was coming everywhere at you. Right, So
Speaker 2: even though you might have been the type of guy
Speaker 2: that'd be like no, no, no, that's very hard for
Speaker 2: most people.
Speaker 4: So we'll see, there you go.
Speaker 2: I wasn't well see there you go. Uh you know,
Speaker 2: I wasn't. I wasn't easy, but.
Speaker 1: I was easy on the ones who were easy on
Speaker 1: the eye and had and had good personality, the ones
Speaker 1: like like So that was women who were very very attractive,
Speaker 1: very attractive, but they had stink attitudes. And I've never
Speaker 1: been a type that could get excited by by a
Speaker 1: woman who wasn't principled, right, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like women who wasn't like like, who wasn't really about something.
Speaker 1: I never liked women who looked down on other people,
Speaker 1: who thought that it's fine if you think that you're
Speaker 1: you're you're in the sense that I'm not a better
Speaker 1: human being, but I'm a better person because of the
Speaker 1: way I carried myself.
Speaker 2: I have character, that's fine.
Speaker 1: But to look down on someone because of their lot
Speaker 1: in life and you know what they have or what
Speaker 1: they don't have, you know, I just like I'm better
Speaker 1: like that, And I never liked those type of women.
Speaker 2: Never. Now. How about expectations though, in regards to what
Speaker 2: so so so does? Expectations sometimes get mixed up with
Speaker 2: like someone looking down on you, expectations in regards to
Speaker 2: what would look like lifestyles you like. So, So I
Speaker 2: was telling buddy mine, we was talking about this when
Speaker 2: I first well not when I first moved here, but
Speaker 2: probably about two thousand and five or whatever. Uh my
Speaker 2: all my prothems from Saint Louis. They moved here and
Speaker 2: I met this girl named Erica. I forgot erica last name.
Speaker 2: Kevin Lowes is so it's Kevin Lowles's wife, right, So
Speaker 2: I met.
Speaker 1: You talk about Kevin Lyves in Houston or Kevin Lowes
Speaker 1: the record exactly?
Speaker 2: The record is that, OK, so I met his wife
Speaker 2: like in Miami, and you could clearly see that, like
Speaker 2: it was just something different about her, right, you could
Speaker 2: clearly see that. So we was down in Miami together,
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, I went up there. Macdonod was like, hey,
Speaker 2: come holl let me you know I did. So we
Speaker 2: was talking on the phone, but I could tell it
Speaker 2: was just something about her that was just different than
Speaker 2: than you know, every other woman. And she was just
Speaker 2: super classy, right, and you could just tell a by
Speaker 2: the jewelry.
Speaker 4: Everything about her was just it was elegant.
Speaker 2: Right. So I remember she came to visit and tell
Speaker 2: your story. I remember she came to visit and, uh,
Speaker 2: my buddy used to throw parties at the Saxo Fifth
Speaker 2: Avenue restaurant. It was fifty something something before you know
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about the restaurant and they used to
Speaker 2: be upstairs before they redid sacks. And he was every
Speaker 2: for his birthday every year he would throw this like
Speaker 2: seven course meal, you know everything, free liquor, premium.
Speaker 4: Across the boy. He would just killing.
Speaker 2: So I told her to come in town, but I
Speaker 2: knew she was coming in town for the question that
Speaker 2: she was asking me to see how.
Speaker 4: I was living.
Speaker 2: Right, she came in town. She walked in the door
Speaker 2: and I remember my buddy turned to me and say, oh,
Speaker 2: you guys, give me that he was He was like
Speaker 2: a hustle dude. You know what I'm saying the street dude.
Speaker 2: So he was like, you must give me that, and
Speaker 2: I said why. I was like, I got made great money.
Speaker 2: He was like, I'm looking at adult like you don't
Speaker 2: have that type of money, right, So this was probably
Speaker 2: you know, I'm still on my way up. He was like,
Speaker 2: he's like, she got a burking You said that bag
Speaker 2: she got. I was like yeah. He was like, that's
Speaker 2: a burking bag. So that's one of the big ones.
Speaker 2: That's fifteen eight ggs at the time. He was like
Speaker 2: he was ten and fifty eight g's. I says, so
Speaker 2: who bag, Like that's a burket bag. And see, by
Speaker 2: that time, I didn't know what a lurking was, a
Speaker 2: burker or slurker that. I was like, I ain't gonna
Speaker 2: get but none of that. So he was, oh, yes,
Speaker 2: burker bag. He said, I bet you she wear a
Speaker 2: La parlel underwear. I was like, what the fuck is
Speaker 2: lat Perarl underwear? He was like, oh, it's you know,
Speaker 2: a bra costs you one hundred and fifty dollars, right.
Speaker 2: He's like, remember that box I had delivered to the
Speaker 2: house and all that I waside for my wife.
Speaker 4: I was like yeah.
Speaker 2: He was just like, oh that box, Alan was like
Speaker 2: fifteen thousand dollars. I was like serious, he was like yes.
Speaker 2: He was like, I'm telling you, I'm looking at it.
Speaker 2: He was like so because my partner, he was the
Speaker 2: one that tad I had a part of the Fat Cat.
Speaker 2: He went and taught me about all like jewelry, watches,
Speaker 2: all that.
Speaker 4: So I walked up to her.
Speaker 2: I was like yo.
Speaker 4: I was like yeah. So I was like talking to her.
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, you're lucky, right, got a little.
Speaker 2: Little parlel you see he tell you know about a
Speaker 2: little pearl. I was like, you know, I'm just that
Speaker 2: type of player, you know. But her expectation, so as
Speaker 2: we got to know each other, she was just like
Speaker 2: I don't want to marry. She's like, I think I'm
Speaker 2: better than just marrying a dude that make two hundred
Speaker 2: thousand dollars a year. Right.
Speaker 4: She was just like not that. Let me just straighten
Speaker 4: that something real quick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're talking to her before she married Kevin, before
Speaker 1: she married Kid, just before she married she still married Vin.
Speaker 4: She's married to Kevin this day.
Speaker 2: So at the time, she she was messed with Katino
Speaker 2: Mobiley She had just stopped dating Katino Mobile and was
Speaker 2: engaged to what's his name, Sean Mary and played basketball
Speaker 2: for Phoenix, right, So she was just like I just
Speaker 2: she was just like, this is the lifestyle I want.
Speaker 2: This is what my expectations for myself is. She was
Speaker 2: at the time, she was a VP, no VP, but
Speaker 2: a manager for Jay and J Pharmaceuticals, right, regional manager,
Speaker 2: a district manager. So she was just like, I worked
Speaker 2: hard to get here, and this is what I expect
Speaker 2: my life to be now. I said that to rap
Speaker 2: it all in about the expectation. I never felt bad
Speaker 2: about that because I was just like, I feel you,
Speaker 2: I'm not there yet, So you got to get that, dude.
Speaker 2: That's that's that's there, right. And I think she dated
Speaker 2: Puffy's lawyer and then she married Kevin Lyles and everything.
Speaker 2: All her expectations of what she thought for herself is
Speaker 2: what what she did. So some men would have probably
Speaker 2: got mad and been like, oh, well, you're looking down
Speaker 2: on me, right.
Speaker 4: I never felt like that.
Speaker 2: I just felt like that wasn't I wasn't her expectation
Speaker 2: at that moment or whatever she was. So that's why
Speaker 2: I was asking you when you say, you don't like
Speaker 2: a woman that looks at somebody like they're better than them,
Speaker 2: but that maybe can be misconscrewed as someone that feels like.
Speaker 1: They just have a different expectation. No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about women who look down on people, period.
Speaker 1: I'm not even talking about men. I'm talking about women
Speaker 1: who would look down on another even looking down on
Speaker 1: another woman. They're a human being.
Speaker 2: But don't you think she felt like that when it
Speaker 2: came to anybody that wasn't what she felt like was
Speaker 2: on her level.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what I'm what I'm saying. What I'm saying
Speaker 1: is that there are people human beings who think they
Speaker 1: should don't stink, right, That's what I'm talking about. I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about money, clothes, who I'm talking about as
Speaker 1: a human being. I'm talking about it some people. It's
Speaker 1: some people who would look at I don't know, look
Speaker 1: at a bus drive and say, oh he's nothing.
Speaker 2: You know, you're nothing.
Speaker 4: You can get it.
Speaker 1: It ain't boy, it ain't about it ain't about you
Speaker 1: wanting to date me or you're trying to holler at me.
Speaker 1: It's just like, oh, you're a bus drive. You nobody
Speaker 1: that's what that type of personality, you know, like, I'm
Speaker 1: not with that.
Speaker 2: I get what you said. I get that part, but
Speaker 2: sometimes expect I do feel like sometimes people feel like
Speaker 2: if their expectations is greater than yours, they feel like
Speaker 2: you think they're they're better than you. Well, they might, right.
Speaker 1: But just might be they might they might in their
Speaker 1: head might be because I would never concede that anybody
Speaker 1: is better.
Speaker 2: Than right, I'm saying they might feel like that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I just feel like I never felt bad because I
Speaker 2: felt like, that's your expectations, right. So I never felt like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, because we used to argue about the whole
Speaker 2: money thing, Like we have discussions about the whole money thing,
Speaker 2: and she's be like, Sam, I just expect to be here, right.
Speaker 2: So I used to be like, I feel you right.
Speaker 2: I was like, and I and if I meet somebody
Speaker 2: like that, I'll hook Yo.
Speaker 1: Did you feel any pressure to perform to get it,
Speaker 1: to get hurry up and get there? No?
Speaker 4: I never was that guy.
Speaker 2: I would just say you're not you catch next catch
Speaker 2: the next bus. Yeah, I catch you. I catch you
Speaker 2: when I get there. And a lot of times when
Speaker 2: you get that YO want to mess with him a
Speaker 2: little more anyway, you know what I'm saying. So that's
Speaker 2: been me since I was a kid. Are you? Are
Speaker 2: you messed with him?
Speaker 1: Just as it out of the way again, keep it
Speaker 1: moving right, yeah, oh absolutely, Ladies and gentlemen, Sam Williamson,
Speaker 1: the Love Guru is about to exit the building. What
Speaker 1: you got going on?
Speaker 2: Man? And how can people get in touch with you? Well,
Speaker 2: you know always you can hit me on Instagram at
Speaker 2: love Guru eighty one. So that's the that's the that's
Speaker 2: the best way to get me. But people been saying
Speaker 2: they love my podcast when I'm on someone else's podcast
Speaker 2: and stuff. So I'm about to start trying to put
Speaker 2: me a team together and kind of do something myself,
Speaker 2: you know, Are you and I could just keep doing
Speaker 2: these yeah? Yea love things? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well I can definitely have you back on man, you know,
Speaker 1: because you know, I always like to get your perspective
Speaker 1: on things.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, I appreciate you. I always love the conversation man,
Speaker 2: No more talk.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
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