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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation, how we do it? Well, that's

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Speaker 2: good us too. Our number two It is the Drive

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Speaker 2: here on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network,

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Speaker 2: West Shooler and Matt Williamson on a Monday bye week,

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Speaker 2: but plenty to talk about crazy week across the league

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Speaker 2: and across the AFC North joining us now to discuss

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Speaker 2: all of this and more.

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Speaker 3: It's our friend.

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Speaker 2: He's the host of In the Locker Room here on

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Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network with Max Starksy is of course,

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Speaker 2: also the play by play voice of your Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 2: on the flagship WDV, the Great Rob.

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Speaker 3: King king Er.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think that we would all be feeling even

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Speaker 2: better about the Steelers after a bye week, after they

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Speaker 2: didn't play a game, but man, it's hard not to

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Speaker 2: when you're just kind of in the scope of everything

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Speaker 2: that has happened to the other teams in the AFC

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Speaker 2: North through the first month or so of the season,

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Speaker 2: but especially yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that you know, I said this on

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Speaker 4: DV this morning. This is like every guy's dream, right

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Speaker 4: do nothing and get better fast, right, you know, you

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Speaker 4: had to buy and everybody in your division lost, and

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Speaker 4: everybody in your division looks lost right now now. I

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Speaker 4: don't know whether that's going to continue. You know, the

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Speaker 4: Ravens will get healthier. I don't know what to make

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Speaker 4: of the Bengals and the Browns. I think the Browns

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Speaker 4: are one of those teams that, you know, you better

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Speaker 4: play good football, as Green Bay found out, or they

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Speaker 4: can beat you. You know, they probably they probably shouldn't

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Speaker 4: win the Green Bay hand. They should probably be two

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Speaker 4: and three right now. But regardless, with all those teams losing,

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Speaker 4: you're in just much better shape coming out of the

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Speaker 4: buy than you were even going into the buy, and

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Speaker 4: you're in good shape going into the Bay.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Rob, we started the show really talking around the league,

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Speaker 5: and I think I startled Wes by saying it in

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Speaker 5: this light. But of those three teams, I think the

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Speaker 5: Browns is the one I would least want to face

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Speaker 5: right the second.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean if I don't disagree with that at all, Matt,

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Speaker 4: I think that you know, Jake Browning has been a

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Speaker 4: he has to be considered a disappointment. I think they

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Speaker 4: thought he was at least, you know, a gatekeeper type

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Speaker 4: of quarterback, you know, keep you in it and keep

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Speaker 4: your head above water. He might still be but six

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Speaker 4: touchdown data interceptions doesn't look good. Their defense. You know,

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Speaker 4: they keep drafting guys and not apparently getting much better

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Speaker 4: on defense. You know, they've got a lot of first

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Speaker 4: round picks and second round picks have recing vintage on

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Speaker 4: that dat's not doing the job. You know, the Browns,

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Speaker 4: now when the Ravens are healthy. No, you don't want

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Speaker 4: to play it, but you're right right now. They're a

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Speaker 4: team that I think, you know, maybe gained a little

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Speaker 4: bit more identity offensively against Minnesota. They've got a good defense.

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Speaker 4: They probably got a little too conservative towards the end

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Speaker 4: they left it up to their defense. That's become increasingly

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Speaker 4: difficult in the NFL to do and expect to shut down.

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Speaker 4: And they didn't get a shutdown. But you know, Judkins,

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Speaker 4: now he's impressive.

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Speaker 5: Interior what that he's impressive.

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Speaker 4: He's impressive, and that interior offensive line, those guys are

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Speaker 5: Because neither could do anything. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and Robinson, you know, look he you know, he's

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Speaker 4: the Steelers, you know, I think, and they've got it.

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Speaker 4: They've got a good defense and they've got a good

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Speaker 4: running back. That's where they stand right now. And I

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Speaker 4: don't know if Cincinnati or Baltimore can say they've got

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Speaker 2: And sticking with that, uh, Matt, another thing that he

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Speaker 3: But I think correct.

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Speaker 2: Is you could very easily say of the eight offenses

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Speaker 2: and defenses in the AFC North, that Brown's defense is

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Speaker 2: I mean you were studying Cleveland when we were on

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Speaker 2: But that Brown's defense is pretty stingy, pretty stinking good

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, and they're doing. I think Mike Hall

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Speaker 4: you know, Matt knows way more about the draft than

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Speaker 4: I know. I don't know if Paul. I don't know

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Speaker 4: That's what you expect out of the fifth pick. But

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and they are deep upfront, and I think people

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Speaker 5: being like, we all know who Miles Garrett is and folks,

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Speaker 5: he's leveled up. He's playing better than he ever has.

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Speaker 5: But the rest of that group is winning a lot

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Speaker 5: of one on one matchups rob as you kind of mentioned,

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean they're clearly, you know, trying to do

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Speaker 4: that's building the trenches, you know, and build a rout

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Speaker 4: your best players. Miles Garrett, no doubt, and so what

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Speaker 4: It's a good philosophy. And if this draft class looks

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Speaker 4: it was Fan in a third round. I think Fannon

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Speaker 4: mean for all of the you know, for the way

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Speaker 4: the mistakes of the quarterback position have set the Browns

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Speaker 4: to get Watson, the fact that you had Baker right

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Speaker 4: it's spilled milk. They have to move on. And yeah,

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Speaker 4: they got worked in a couple of games this year,

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Speaker 4: for sure, But I still see a team that if

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Speaker 4: you don't come to play, and if they don't have

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Speaker 5: Rob use this on the air, and I said it

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Speaker 5: to you this morning, but it blows me away that

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Speaker 5: Gabriel was their tenth starting quarterback since Baker Mayfield. I

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Speaker 5: mean that's not even the jersey that starts with Tim Couch.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we're just talking about since Baker Mayfield. He's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, and again I've said this a

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Speaker 4: couple of times, but to me it you know, when

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Speaker 4: we talk about how valuable the quarterback position is, the

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Speaker 4: Ravens are zero to five in the last five games

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Speaker 4: without Lamar, They're four and ten overall in the games

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Speaker 4: he hasn't been able to start. Look at the Bengals

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Speaker 4: and they've had a What they've really had is a

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Speaker 4: to win some games. The Steelers have won games in

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Speaker 4: the post Ben Roethlisberger era without that that you know,

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Speaker 4: division what that has cost the Bengals, what that has

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Speaker 4: cost in part the Ravens and other injuries. I understand

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Speaker 4: that and what it has cost the Browns. So to me, yes,

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Speaker 4: I you know I think that you know, we'll see

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Speaker 4: on Gabriel again. You know more about him than I do.

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Speaker 4: Mad It seemed like the biggest knock on him was

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Speaker 4: his size, and he's not doesn't have the phototypical size

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Speaker 4: to be in the first round, but has some of

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Speaker 4: the other skills. And I think if people probably said

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Speaker 4: the same thing about Baker some degree, although I think Baker,

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Speaker 4: you know, Baker's listened. Gabriel's got ways to go before

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Speaker 4: he gets there. But they at the very least an

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Speaker 4: intriguing team, maybe heading in the right direction, maybe getting

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Speaker 4: that stability that has been lacking into quarterback position. I

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Speaker 4: don't know if Gabriel be that guy, but if if

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Speaker 4: he is, boy what a short cut that is to

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Speaker 4: becoming a better team.

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Speaker 2: Rob King with us here on the Drive Steelers Nation

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Speaker 2: Radio on the Steelers Audio Network. Rob we spent probably

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Speaker 2: fifteen minutes in the first hour just talking about the

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Speaker 2: Ravens and the laundry list of injuries and the one

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Speaker 2: and four start for Baltimore. Despite all that, they are

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Speaker 2: still according to Vegas the slight favorites, very slight, but

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Speaker 2: still slight favorites over the Steelers to win the AFC North.

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Steelers back on the practice field today for the of course,

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Speaker 5: Get that extra practice, you get one more.

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Speaker 2: Practice, you get that one more of that Monday practice,

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Speaker 5: Real quick, before you do. Dale was always way better

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Speaker 5: of the world and you got to win, which you

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Speaker 5: didn't know at the time when he made the decision.

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Speaker 2: Exactly right in Hinds the best you have all year.

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Speaker 2: Over five yards of carry for Kenneth Gainwell. And speaking

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Speaker 2: of some of those other names you mentioned, some good

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Speaker 2: news in that regard to Alex Highsmith Joey Porter Junior,

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Speaker 2: both present for that media window of the Steelers bonus

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Speaker 2: practice today. Both of those guys spoke to the media

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Speaker 2: after practice. Both of those guys said they will play

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Speaker 2: Sunday against the Browns.

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Speaker 5: Wow that okay, yes, just say this with Warren. This

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Speaker 5: is probably going to be a low scoring game. I

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Speaker 5: haven't seen the over hunders, but it's just a Browns thing.

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Speaker 5: It's kind of a Steelers thing that I would think

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Speaker 5: the Browns as as rob Mentioned are going to be

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Speaker 5: very Judkins central centric and win with defense, keep us

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Speaker 5: in closed and don't ask a ton from a rookie quarterback.

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Speaker 5: So I think in a game like that, you should

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Speaker 5: have ample opportunities to quote establish the run, you know,

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Speaker 5: whether it's a lot of Warren or Warren and Gainwell

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Speaker 5: or big o'lignment or whatever. But I don't think you're

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Speaker 5: gonna have to be throwing left and right in a

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Speaker 5: game like this. So Great. We mentioned before Brown's left

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Speaker 5: tackle situation is massively problematic right now. They traded, you know,

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Speaker 5: rob threw us out, like everyone knew. They traded for

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Speaker 5: Cam Robinson a week or two ago from the Jags,

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Speaker 5: who's very borderline and was on their just because they're

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Speaker 5: so well, we need a body, they need a body,

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Speaker 5: and at least he's been a warm body that's played

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Speaker 5: some snaps here. And from what I was watching in

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Speaker 5: that that London game, they were rotating left tackles. I

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Speaker 5: mean had streams and we know Herbig's really good, but

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Speaker 5: Highsmith's gonna line up there a lot too. So great,

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Speaker 5: if you're going to rotate left tackles, we'll rotate edge

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Speaker 5: rushers that are way better than your rotating left tackles.

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Speaker 5: Great now, not to downplay the Porter situation, I was shocked,

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Speaker 5: you know, looking into a lot of this is like

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Speaker 5: fantasy related snap counts and target shaars and things like that.

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Speaker 5: Almost every pass went to tight ends with Gabriel it

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Speaker 5: was fanning in the djoku and they really have not

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Speaker 5: used their receivers much at all this year, and way

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Speaker 5: less with the rookie quarterback Flaco through to the more.

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Speaker 5: Tilman's a good player, he's out. Judy to me is

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Speaker 5: kind of overrated, So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It.

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Speaker 5: It's great to get Joey back and sounds like he's

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Speaker 5: playing either way, but I don't know that he's as

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Speaker 5: big a deal as the other ones, just because the

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Speaker 5: position they play and who the opponent is, you know

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Speaker 5: what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Big week to have the Shawn Elliott back, yes, and

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Speaker 2: healthy and a game under his belt as well too.

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Speaker 2: So sounds like for Warren high Smith and Joey Porter Junior.

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Speaker 2: Good news trending in the right direction, all those things.

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Speaker 2: That's what you want to hear coming out of bye week.

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Speaker 2: Not quite the same for Calvin Austin the third. I

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Speaker 2: don't think that surprises anybody. I think we had a

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Speaker 2: feeling his was going to be a little bit longer term.

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Speaker 2: He did not go into great detail, but said he's

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Speaker 2: still not sure if injured reserve is a possibility for

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Speaker 2: him with his shoulder injury, just.

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Speaker 5: Taking him to have to make that decision right now, take.

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Speaker 2: It in the next day or two, taking it day

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Speaker 2: by day. At this point for Calvin Austin, it's.

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Speaker 5: A little worrisome. I mean, again, their corners are good,

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Speaker 5: their pass rush is really good. I just don't know

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Speaker 5: if I trust wide receiver three four five, Yeah, you

502
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Speaker 5: know what I mean. They're gonna have to play a

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Speaker 5: fair amount and I'm sure you'll be very tight end

504
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Speaker 5: centric and you're gonna need a lot of big bodies

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Speaker 5: on the field to make up for it. But it

506
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Speaker 5: makes it a little easier to put Ward on metcalf

507
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Speaker 5: or role coverages his direction, which he better used to

508
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Speaker 5: if he hasn't already. I mean, that's gonna happen no

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Speaker 5: matter what. Is Roman ready to step up? Is Scotty

510
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Speaker 5: Miller way to step up? I like them much more

511
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Speaker 5: as threes and fours. You know, without question, I'm not

512
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Speaker 5: saying the wide receiver trade train has left but left

513
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Speaker 5: the station, but that could still be the mix.

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Speaker 2: Who knows, certainly could and I would imagine too kind

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Speaker 2: of piggybacking off of what you just said about. I

516
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Speaker 2: think the way that we all expect Sunday's game to

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Speaker 2: play out, this is probably an okay week to not

518
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Speaker 2: feel as confident about your wide receiver.

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Speaker 5: Two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you want to, Okay, let's see what Roman

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Speaker 2: can do, Let's see what Scotty can do. We'll reassess,

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Speaker 2: maybe we'll know more about the injury at that standpoint.

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Speaker 2: Trade still on the board at that standpoint, because like

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Speaker 2: you said, this feels like a play it close to

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Speaker 2: the vest, run the football, hopefully DK and your tight

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Speaker 2: end make a couple of plays.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think you want to ball all your

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Speaker 5: hands quick against thirteen, you know, yeah, yeah, trying to

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Speaker 5: control the game. Yeah, lean on Bosworth a little bit

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Speaker 5: more than you have. You know, bos Well, I do

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Speaker 5: that all the time.

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Speaker 3: By the way, we both it's the thing that we

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Speaker 3: both style Thompson.

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Speaker 2: Tristan Thompson started training camp soorry.

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Speaker 5: But bos is way better than Tristan Thompson. You know

536
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Speaker 5: what I mean? I should have that one down. It

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Speaker 5: goes back to like Brian Boswell, I mean, yeah, I

538
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Speaker 5: do that all the time anyway. They they even't even

539
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Speaker 5: had to ask Card of anything out of Boss here,

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Speaker 5: which is kind of remarkablehich.

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Speaker 3: Is other than the Jets game, kind of kind of remarkable.

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Speaker 5: You still got that, you know, ace up your sleep.

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Speaker 3: It's a good ace to have up your sleeve.

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Speaker 2: That's a nice guy to call out of the bullpen,

545
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Speaker 2: certainly when when the time, when the time calls for it.

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Speaker 5: That's great news with them with all the injuries.

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Speaker 2: Outstanding Again, I think we all knew Ramsey and Calvin

548
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Speaker 2: Austin there was gonna be some time there, but for

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Speaker 2: the other and nothing yet okay, haven't so so I

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Speaker 2: haven't seen anything from anybody who was down there today.

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Speaker 3: But of course.

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Speaker 5: We're coming back, though I might not rush him for

553
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Speaker 5: this one again, it's not it.

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Speaker 2: You'd love to have them both healthy at the same time.

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Speaker 2: But in the meantime beal.

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Speaker 3: Bengals well I guess what nine or ten days after,

557
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Speaker 3: But yes.

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Speaker 5: I much have Ramsey make sure he's healthy for the

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Speaker 5: Bengals total, even though they're a disaster. But they got

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Speaker 5: two studs.

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Speaker 3: Totally right, right, totally.

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Speaker 2: But well, I would also think get a little bit

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Speaker 2: more clarity on this tomorrow, of course, when we have

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Speaker 2: the Mike Tomlin press conference at noon right here on

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt, what

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Speaker 2: do you say we go into our final break here.

567
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Speaker 2: We'll have a kind of beefier segment to shut this

568
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Speaker 2: thing down. We can do a kind of final whip

569
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Speaker 2: around the league of everything that happened yesterday and give

570
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Speaker 2: some thoughts on tonight's a big Monday night football contest

571
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Speaker 2: in the AFC between the Chiefs and the Jags. We'll

572
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Speaker 2: get it all that as we wrap up the show

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Speaker 2: on the other side, West Shouler Matt Williams sentence of

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Speaker 2: the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Your tums about Drive on your twenty four to seven

576
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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers.

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Speaker 5: Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Final segment Here on a Monday, we have got a

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Speaker 2: big Monday night football game to look ahead to and

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Speaker 2: give some thoughts on. But before that, Matt, uh, some

581
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Speaker 2: of these NFL games that we haven't quite touched on

582
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Speaker 2: or mentioned yet today on a Monday, So what do

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Speaker 2: you say we do a little little whip around the

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Speaker 2: league here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, there's some very notable games. There are some blowouts.

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Speaker 5: I mean there's like.

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Speaker 3: Colts Raiders, which there's a couple of teams like that.

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Speaker 5: There's an handful of teams.

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Speaker 3: I got Geno Smith is struggling out here. Good lord.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's been bad.

591
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Speaker 2: Vikings get it done against Cleveland. Did you see the

592
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Speaker 2: issue with the tickets at that game?

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Speaker 5: By the way, No, I didn't know. There was something.

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Speaker 2: I guess like the NFL ticketing app or whatever crashed.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, And so there were like thousands of fans

596
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Speaker 2: like trying to get in that it took them.

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Speaker 5: Like like a lot had tickets, like.

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Speaker 2: Didn't get into the second quarter type. Yeah, so there

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Speaker 2: was some there was some angst over there.

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Speaker 5: And I can imagine in London, imagine if it was

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Speaker 5: a week before.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that would not have been good. But the Vikings

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Speaker 3: get that one done.

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Speaker 2: Like we mentioned, the Colts blow out the Raiders, and

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Speaker 2: a tale of two franchises headed in opposite directions, Saints

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Speaker 2: getting it done at home against the Giants for their

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Speaker 2: first season.

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Speaker 5: That game and the Panthers Dolphins I thought were good

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Speaker 5: games between bad teams. You know, they were just evenly. Matt, Yes,

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Speaker 5: you know, and that's entertaining. I don't think Spencer Ratler

611
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Speaker 5: is terrible.

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Speaker 3: I don't either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought Jackson Dart looked pretty good in his

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Speaker 2: second second action in the league.

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Speaker 5: And I say, I'm warming up to Dart a lot.

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Speaker 5: But you can tell how ray he is too, Like

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Speaker 5: if things don't go as planned, I'm just talking and

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Speaker 5: running and trying to make a play and you know,

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Speaker 5: turn them all over and you know, but there's a

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Speaker 5: lot of there.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys comfortably beat the Jets by fifteen at MetLife. Jets

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Speaker 2: the lone winless team in the NFLER and five on

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Speaker 2: the season. Justin Fields falls to oh and twenty six

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Speaker 2: when the opposition scores twenty one or more points.

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Speaker 5: And a lot of their late production was garbage time.

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Speaker 5: This game was over early. Dallas puts points up on everybody.

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Speaker 3: I got to give Dak Prescott a ton of credit.

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Speaker 5: He's playing like an MVP.

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Speaker 2: He's I think, one of the most kind of enigmas

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Speaker 2: in the league. Like everybody has an opinion on Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 2: I know, man, he has been without most of his

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Speaker 2: top weapons and without a big chunk of his offensive

633
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Speaker 2: line and a defense that can't stop a nosebleed.

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Speaker 5: They put up forty every week.

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Speaker 2: They're two two and one. I mean like they're keeping

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Speaker 2: their head above water. And he's the reason why.

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00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 5: He's the reason why. Now the Jets. I don't wish

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Speaker 5: this upon anyone, but I wonder if they're going to

639
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 5: be a one and done on fields and the head coach.

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Speaker 5: Defense should be better.

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Speaker 3: The defense should be better. And I think Jets.

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Speaker 5: Looked pretty good in Week one. Maybe I was just crazy, but.

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Speaker 3: I'm shocked that one, certainly.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think any of us thought that it

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Speaker 2: would be four weeks later and they'd still be winless

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Speaker 2: right after that opener met Life, I.

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Speaker 5: Mean, deep down, I don't know if they're the worst

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Speaker 5: team in the league just because they don't have a

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Speaker 5: win like they played the Titans. I'd probably pick the Jets,

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Speaker 5: but I mean still.

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Speaker 3: But they're in that conversation.

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Speaker 5: It's not anything that can be optimistic about.

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Speaker 2: Eagles lose their first game in ten months, Matt, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and a thrilling one. The Broncos scored eighteen points in

655
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter to win that game in Philly.

656
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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think Denver's a legit team. Benito's awesome,

657
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 5: the defense is awesome. Nicks is starting to a slow start,

658
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 5: but he's looking more and more like the player he

659
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 5: did last year. Just really promising. I think Denver's well coached,

660
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 5: I know that. But the thing that stood out to

661
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 5: me from that game is the Eagles always played with

662
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 5: I mean during that stretch of you know, winning all

663
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 5: those games, they didn't play from behind very often, and

664
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 5: they didn't in this game either. Still sake one guy

665
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 5: six carries in this game, how do you do that

666
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 5: with a big lead late in the game when you.

667
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 3: Have that guy that's yeah, that's no other way around.

668
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 5: I mean, you're begging for it, to let a team

669
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 5: back into it. You got that guy, give him the ball.

670
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: Crazy And I tell you what, hard to hard to

671
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 2: complain if you're Philly, And again it's the first time

672
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: you've lost a game in ten months. But yeah, that

673
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: one certainly a lot of decisions that they would want back. Yeah,

674
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 2: in that one, Panthers, as you mentioned, take care of

675
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: the Dolphins. Yeah, but you know, could be it for

676
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel. But the Panthers, hey two and three, hanging around,

677
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:35,719
Speaker 2: not falling apart.

678
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 5: They have some fun games.

679
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 3: They did, they do.

680
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: Bryce Young is still tough to evaluate. I don't think

681
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 2: so either, but hey, he made some plays in that one.

682
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: Certainly we talked about Texans and Ravens and that blowout

683
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: in Baltimore. Uh, Tennessee gets their first win, cam Ward

684
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: gets his first win. Crazy one against the Cardinals. A

685
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: lot of bizarre flukey turnovers. Terrible Arizona though, definitely, I

686
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: mean kicking themselves today that they let that one get away.

687
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't remember if we talked about this on

688
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 5: the air off the air, but I mean there were

689
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 5: three or four plays of just neither team wants to

690
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 5: win that game. And the most notable is he drops

691
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 5: the ball before he goes over the goal line. I mean,

692
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 5: that's the second time that's happened in the league in

693
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Speaker 5: a couple of weeks. And they win that game if

694
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 5: he at least just scores the touchdown and doesn't drop

695
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 5: the ball at the one inch line. But good for Ward.

696
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 5: He's very impressive in terms of tools, and the Titans

697
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 5: need to win any way they possibly could. And that

698
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 5: knocked me out of my eliminator. I think a lot

699
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 5: of people had Arizona in that one.

700
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had the Cardinals in that one as well,

701
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 3: with you.

702
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 2: Hey, we made it to October and what might have

703
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: been the most exciting game of the weekend, thrilling one

704
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: in Seattle, Oh yeah, as the Bucks beat the Seahawks

705
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: thirty eight to thirty five.

706
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 5: I think it's two playoff teams. Maybe they'll meet again.

707
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 5: I mean, those teams should be really happy with where

708
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 5: they're at.

709
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: Good quarterback playing that I was gonna say is Sam

710
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: Donald's playing well, really well.

711
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 5: And the Steelers lost of Seattle does not look bad

712
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 5: at all right now, by the way, they're a top

713
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 5: eight type of team, and this is really evenly matched.

714
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 5: And what I got a kick out of was Baker

715
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 5: and Donald, same draft class, weird pass to get where

716
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 5: they are, but they look like they're home and just

717
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 5: couldn't do anything wrong. And they're throwing to these two

718
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 5: young Ohio State receivers that are just lighting up the defense.

719
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 5: Abukah's unbelievable right.

720
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 3: Now, he really is.

721
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 5: And I felt for Donald because the play that quote

722
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,479
Speaker 5: lost in the game gets tipped hits off, someone's helmet

723
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 5: picked off, and that was like the only bad thing

724
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 5: that either quarterback did. The whole day. I think there

725
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 5: were there might have been more touchdowns scored than incompletions

726
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 5: in that game. It was really good. I heard that today,

727
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 5: but I didn't fact.

728
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,959
Speaker 2: Check it, which I think was a little surprising, just

729
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 2: because how good that Seahawks defense.

730
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 5: Had been expected more from both defenses.

731
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, but a great game between like

732
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 2: you said, I think two playoff teams and teams that

733
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 2: could meet up once again sometime in January. Lions get

734
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 2: it done much more convincing than the final score looked.

735
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,479
Speaker 2: I mean, they still won match thirteen, but it took

736
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 2: a twenty one point garbage time fourth quarter from the

737
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 2: Bengals to make that even look a little respectable. The Lions,

738
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 2: you know, at one point in the driver's seat, Like

739
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: you mentioned this last week. I mean that's what they

740
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: do with Dan Campbell. They beat up on bad.

741
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 5: Team ash bad teams.

742
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, I think after Week one, a lot

743
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 2: of people thought, Okay, the Lions are unraveling a little bit.

744
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: That Super Bowl window was closed after they went to

745
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: Lambeau and got beat up by the Packers. Four straight

746
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 2: wins and looking much more like the team that they've

747
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: been over the last handfull of years.

748
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, and should have even mentioned this with Baker, But

749
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 5: I think Baker and Golf and we threw out that

750
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 5: MVP issue votes for all those guys. Yeah, I mean

751
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 5: it's not the obvious lamarut. You know, like like those

752
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 5: guys are in that conversation right now.

753
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 3: They sure are, They sure are.

754
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: One guy who was in that conversation now the team

755
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: and himself coming back to earth a little bit, justin Herbert.

756
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 2: Chargers went up ten to nothing in the first quarter. Yeah,

757
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 2: and then twenty seven unanswered for the Commanders to win

758
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: there in La twenty seven to ten.

759
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 5: Chargers defense let him down. I mean, the Crossy Merrit

760
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 5: was really really good in this really good and Daniel's

761
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 5: coming back went a long way. Debo's went a really

762
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 5: nice acquisition for them. I also just think the Chargers

763
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 5: are kind of unraveling.

764
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, after a really successful start to the season. It's

765
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: done the opposite way for them. And then Matt and

766
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 2: hey what of them? Might have been the most surprising

767
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 2: result of the weekend. The Buffalo Bills fall at home

768
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: the last time they'll face Well, I guess it could

769
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: happen in the playoffs. Still, to be fair, but the

770
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: last time in the regular season that they will host

771
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: the Patriots there in Orchard Park building, in that building

772
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: before moving across the street next year, the Bills dropped

773
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 2: their first one great game from Drake May, great avenge

774
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: game from Stefan dis.

775
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, and good for them that they hunt. You know,

776
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 5: another podcast, I talked a lot about how, you know,

777
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 5: the Patriots always owned that division and they would smash

778
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 5: all the Little Brothers before they could ever grow up.

779
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 5: And I thought maybe the Bills would do that to

780
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 5: the Patriots, Like who's going to be the scariest team

781
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 5: to challenge Josh Allen in the next couple of years.

782
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 5: It's definitely the Patriots in that division. And Little Brother

783
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 5: landed a few punches there, you know what I mean,

784
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 5: they're like, okay, yeah, and May is my guy. I

785
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 5: think he's great. But to me, the biggest thing that happened,

786
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 5: which is very Unbills like, was a lot of mistakes

787
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 5: from the Bills. I mean, they're always a top of

788
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 5: the league and turnover differential Alan team. Yeah, they don't

789
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 5: ever beat themselves, and last night they did a little bit.

790
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: They they sure did, And yeah, I tell you what,

791
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: probably definitely feeling as good in New England as they

792
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 2: have in the post era. I think they got a

793
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: dude in Drake May they do so one of their

794
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 2: uh so, did you, I don't know if you saw this.

795
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 2: One of the Patriots fans who was there if the

796
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: game had a sign The Bills wore those like icy uniforms.

797
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 2: They called them like the ice white uniforms. There was

798
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: a Patriots fan that they showed postgame holding up a

799
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 2: sign that says ice melts in May, and it was

800
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 2: a I thought that was pretty good. Thought that was

801
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: pretty good. Finally, man tonight, A man, a good one

802
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 2: on Monday Night Football tonight down in Jacksonville the three

803
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: and one Jags, who all of a sudden, I mean,

804
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 2: there's a real race in that division with obviously keeping

805
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: up with Indy and the Texans look like they're back

806
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: to life. That could be one of the more fun

807
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: I think division races to watch here in the NFL

808
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: this season.

809
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 5: One of the divisions you can see three teams really.

810
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and it could come down to tiebreaker scenarios

811
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 2: as to who wins and gets the home playoff game

812
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: against the Chiefs, who you know, first two weeks did

813
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: not go their way. They've responded and won two in

814
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: a row since then. Game, like I mentioned in Jacksonville,

815
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 2: tonight at EverBank Stadium, Kansas City, three and a half

816
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,439
Speaker 2: point favorites on the road.

817
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 5: Now, there's one organization I trust to no end, and

818
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 5: there's one that always lets you down. And maybe Casey

819
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 5: just steam rolls them to night and we're like, same

820
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 5: old chief same old Jags. But I also look at

821
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 5: it like the Jags never host primetime games anymore. The

822
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 5: Chiefs is.

823
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 3: And this is kind of the third one they've played

824
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 3: in already this year.

825
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 5: Kind of their super Bowl a little bit, you know,

826
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 5: like are we legit or not? The whole world's watching

827
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 5: Trevor new coach, Hunter Thomas, all these guys. Are they

828
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 5: ready to be legit?

829
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 3: Winn? Yeah, right right, blocking step with the Colts.

830
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 5: And I know it's one game. I always hesitate to

831
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 5: do this, but my opinion one way or another on

832
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 5: the Jags could train could change pretty drastically.

833
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 2: That's the beauty of football, Yeah, it is at every level.

834
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 2: One game can have such an impact on how you

835
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: feel about yourself, on the perception of you around the league,

836
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: And tonight, certainly that from Jacksonville. You're right, they win

837
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 2: and it's like they're four and one. You.

838
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 5: They just do battle with them to the end and

839
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 5: Mahomes is tearing them up and Lawrence's answering, and they say, oh, okay.

840
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 3: These guys are legit. These guys can make some noise.

841
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 5: Yeah.

842
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 4: Yeah.

843
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 2: If Kansas City goes in there and wins by thirteen,

844
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: then it's like, okay, here come the Chiefs and same

845
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 2: old jags.

846
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 3: That's a very intriguing chief.

847
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 5: Star turn in the corner and getting dangerous again.

848
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 2: I think so too, geting, getting some health, getting some

849
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 2: guys back.

850
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 5: They actually have some guys that can run now, they're

851
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 5: not relying on Juju and Michelle A. Kelsey and bad

852
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 5: running backs. I mean, they got some guys that can

853
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 5: move a little bit now.

854
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, we will absolutely recap that one and give some

855
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 2: thoughts on that one Tomorrow on the show. We'll also

856
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: do our Tuesday Power rankings. Yeah, we'll have everything from

857
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: the Mike Tomlin press conference. A lot of these injuries

858
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 2: that we've discussed and speculated upon since Dublin. We'll get

859
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 2: some clarity from from the head coach tomorrow. We'll also

860
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: talk to our buddy Chris Danski as well too, So

861
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: a jam packed Tuesday for you coming out of the

862
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 2: bye week. Matt and I want to do a little

863
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 2: almost like quarter pole conversation.

864
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, by week two, and it'll give us a

865
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 5: little ex.

866
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, some some awards and some some division winners and

867
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: some predictions as well too. We'll get into all of

868
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: that and more on the show tomorrow, man, good stuff today.

869
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 2: Enjoyed this today.

870
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 5: It was fine, unusual, but yes, yours be doing this weekend.

871
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 3: And there was plenty to talk about on the a

872
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: FC North.

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