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Speaker 1: Can it be Week five of the National Football League season?
Speaker 1: Can it be a victory Monday at the Star? Welcome
Speaker 1: to Talking Cowboys, Bill Jones, Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us,
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, Hello everybody, billow Jones, how are you going
Speaker 1: very well? At a late night last night on CBS? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Why were you guys so late? Because we CBS had
Speaker 1: the late game yesterday and it pushed us back, had
Speaker 1: Giant Saints three twenty five, and so we go on
Speaker 1: late anyway at ten thirty and then if the game
Speaker 1: runs over. They showed the end of the San Francisco
Speaker 1: Charger game after that, and so we got done at
Speaker 1: eleven fifty last night. Soon game. Huh, that's right, neon
Speaker 1: game and you're done eleven fifty right? Yeah? Yeah? On
Speaker 1: a pregame show exactly at the stadium nine o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning exactly. But it's great to be here. I
Speaker 1: hope everybody wasn't like me when you finished with the
Speaker 1: Cowboys stuff, I went to bed. Well, the Cowboys stuff
Speaker 1: went all the way to the end of the day.
Speaker 1: Now you started with golf and baseball, and don't start
Speaker 1: with no no, I said, you started when you started
Speaker 1: doing it. I started start with it. You'll start with
Speaker 1: ring Cowboys. That isn't want a Cowboys Sunday. I mean
Speaker 1: even the Ryder Cup. Of course, the Ryder Cup, there
Speaker 1: was nothing to report on from an American that we
Speaker 1: gave that twenty seconds at the very end. That's when
Speaker 1: I left. You know how much time the Rangers got mention,
Speaker 1: we got a farewell to Adrian Beltrey, and we got
Speaker 1: fifteen seconds of the Rangers on man. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: The ratings were much better last night than they have
Speaker 1: been two of the first three weeks of the season,
Speaker 1: because if the Cowboys win, they'll stay up to midnight
Speaker 1: and watch you and they'll tune into talking Cowboys absolutely too.
Speaker 1: All right, So what's the big take away from Sunday.
Speaker 1: Let's start with the junior member of the four junior
Speaker 1: member congratulation. It's higher than the good they Congratulations to
Speaker 1: your aggies. You survived against the Hogs on Saturday. They
Speaker 1: were they were mad, but thank you, thank you. Get
Speaker 1: a buff to Jimbo Fisher. Welcome to Alabama this week.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, good times. Right, um my takeaway, get that
Speaker 1: breakfast spoon out, man Zeke eight and ate some more
Speaker 1: and did it on a bad ankle and a sore knee,
Speaker 1: as he said, And if they were gonna win this
Speaker 1: football game, they needed a game out of him like
Speaker 1: this one. And this, in my opinion, that's the best
Speaker 1: game I've seen him play as a Dallas cowboy when
Speaker 1: you factor in how banged up he was and how
Speaker 1: much he was limping in the locker room after the
Speaker 1: game with you know, whatever was bothering him. It seemed
Speaker 1: to happen sometime in the first half. He missed a
Speaker 1: couple of plays. But when you see what he did
Speaker 1: running the ball and especially receiving the ball, and I
Speaker 1: know we'll get into that. He just showed these complete
Speaker 1: running back and they leaned on him. No, but we
Speaker 1: haven't seen him that dominant yet this season. And a
Speaker 1: lot of it was opportunity said, hey, look what happens
Speaker 1: when you get a two score lead in the second half,
Speaker 1: you know you can kind of lean on him a
Speaker 1: little bit, and sure that boy, they had to lean
Speaker 1: on him in the last drive as well too. May
Speaker 1: I heard it in his voice last week in the
Speaker 1: locker room. There was passion in his voice that I
Speaker 1: hadn't heard, and he was bound and determined to not
Speaker 1: only get his season on trap, they get this team
Speaker 1: on track. I think. Yeah. Dak said the same thing
Speaker 1: that when he called them up after their warm ups,
Speaker 1: that he could tell the excitement in his voice, and
Speaker 1: he said on the postgame TV show that he basically
Speaker 1: told everybody this game is going to define our season.
Speaker 1: We're are they going to be one in that attitude
Speaker 1: they needed to have going into that and if we win,
Speaker 1: we're two and two and things will be a lot better.
Speaker 1: And I think they kind of played that way listening
Speaker 1: to him. It's not often the game week four of
Speaker 1: the season is the crossroads point of your season, but
Speaker 1: I think that was yesterday. So if anybody thinks they
Speaker 1: wanted to dismiss that it didn't matter when he missed
Speaker 1: six games last year, just circle this performance. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: tell you what I love what Rob said that. I
Speaker 1: love with what we saw with the offensive line. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought that. You know, when you look at their
Speaker 1: ability to run, block to hats on hats, you know,
Speaker 1: the tough running they got, they got help from the
Speaker 1: wide receiver. They're tight ends actually helped in the running
Speaker 1: game this week. You know, that's something that they had
Speaker 1: to do. Everybody the buzzword was about wrinkles. It really
Speaker 1: was about more about getting back to what they do well.
Speaker 1: This team. We've talked about it a bunch. They're not
Speaker 1: the Rams, but they have an identity when they run
Speaker 1: the football, they could be very difficult to defend. They
Speaker 1: put the quarterback in some situations play action wise where
Speaker 1: it helped him. He made some quality throws. He missed
Speaker 1: a couple here and there, but overall, you'd take his
Speaker 1: stat line every day. The way he played. Mickey got
Speaker 1: his protection yesterday to throw the football. I think that
Speaker 1: was a real big, big plus. The thing that it
Speaker 1: was a little bit disheartened to me. Oh, another positive
Speaker 1: for me was the defense. I didn't think they could
Speaker 1: get pressure on this guy. I really did, and it
Speaker 1: came early with a slot blitz on third down. It
Speaker 1: kind of affected the way through. They were able to
Speaker 1: take advantage of t J. Lange being out of the
Speaker 1: game at guard. I think that kind of a mess.
Speaker 1: The lines up in a couple of different ways. My
Speaker 1: biggest concern though, was the past defense, because I thought
Speaker 1: that was going to be a strength of this team
Speaker 1: in the first three weeks. It really was the strength
Speaker 1: of this team. But they caught a different animal yesterday.
Speaker 1: Those three wide receivers are outstanding, The quarterbacks out standing
Speaker 1: for the Lions. I worried that was going to be
Speaker 1: a repeat of the Green Bay game where all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, they get the ball at the
Speaker 1: end and they just kind of drive it on you
Speaker 1: and scored ten seconds left. But you know, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: a breakdown in the secondary helped you, you know, get
Speaker 1: two seventeen on the clock so you can finish that
Speaker 1: thing out. But time right, Yeah, But I just you know,
Speaker 1: it's a tough it's a tough matchup when you deal
Speaker 1: with those guys. It's you know, we knew it going
Speaker 1: in that those receivers are capable of doing that. We're
Speaker 1: doing radio over here'd be okay, checking your voicemail. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to turn the volume down. Okay, well maybe we
Speaker 1: do that before we walk in. Well we waited for
Speaker 1: you again. But you know, but anyway, it's it's you know,
Speaker 1: that's the things that you know, if you look at
Speaker 1: the game. I said, the things offensively fell for him
Speaker 1: the right way, and that's good. I mean that they
Speaker 1: did what they had to do defensively. They've got some
Speaker 1: work in that secondary to kind of figure some things out.
Speaker 1: What do you think I thought it was about execution, execution, execution,
Speaker 1: and don't make mistakes, like make sure you turn off
Speaker 1: your phone before you come into a But I you know,
Speaker 1: I think there's a narrative out there that they fed Zeke. Well,
Speaker 1: they fed Zeke last week two, but they didn't execute
Speaker 1: last week. Zeke stepped out of bounds on a thirty
Speaker 1: one yard touchdown pass, he dropped a third down pass,
Speaker 1: he fumbled it a long run. But if you look
Speaker 1: at through three quarters of this week's game, Zeke had
Speaker 1: twenty touches and the Cowboys had a ten point lead.
Speaker 1: I'll bet you anything three quarters of last week's game
Speaker 1: he had. They had tried to get the ball to
Speaker 1: him eighteen times. Now, there were miscues on three of
Speaker 1: those and they were trailing by eighteen points, and so
Speaker 1: that's why he didn't wind up with the pretty touches
Speaker 1: that he had yesterday. I'll bet you anything in Detroit
Speaker 1: right now, the talking heads are saying, carry on, Johnson.
Speaker 1: We got nine carries for fifty five yards the average
Speaker 1: six yards of carry. They're behind in the second half, right,
Speaker 1: And that's Zeke said it. To your point, Brian, we
Speaker 1: got back to our old self and a lot of
Speaker 1: that is building a lead and wearing a defense down.
Speaker 1: About two penalties for twenty yards, Well, we saw on
Speaker 1: that one drive. I guess it was maybe in the
Speaker 1: third quarter where there was a ten yard penalty. Una.
Speaker 1: It was maybe their first penalty of the game. They
Speaker 1: had no penalties that have to had one on special teams, okay,
Speaker 1: so it was on offense. They had one penalty. They
Speaker 1: were driving down the field and it was around the
Speaker 1: thirty yard line. They had a hold or something like that.
Speaker 1: I can't remember what it was in the back. Was
Speaker 1: that there was a block in the back, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it set them back. I heard Mickey across the press box.
Speaker 1: He didn't love that one, yeah, and then had a
Speaker 1: block knock the hell out of him. Don't just have
Speaker 1: your hands there. Nothing happened, But that was an illustration
Speaker 1: of one mistake on the drive, even if it wasn't
Speaker 1: a legitimate penalty, whatever, one mistake sets this team back
Speaker 1: and they can't overcome the one mistake. That's what happened
Speaker 1: in Seattle last week. That's what happened the week in
Speaker 1: Week one against Carolina. You get one mistake on a drive,
Speaker 1: you get behind the chains, and you can't overcome that.
Speaker 1: This team right now doesn't have the ability to overcome that. Yesterday, though,
Speaker 1: throughout the game, they were on point and they did
Speaker 1: not make those mistakes, and the result was they had
Speaker 1: a ten point lead going into the fourth quarter and
Speaker 1: they almost blew that. Needed every bit of that exactly,
Speaker 1: you know. And and they gave Detroit credit for three sacks,
Speaker 1: not five or six like they did when they got
Speaker 1: beat and one sack he was running and he didn't
Speaker 1: get out of bounds. Then they gave him a sack
Speaker 1: for a one yard loss instead of throwing the ball away.
Speaker 1: So really two sacks really well the other one too,
Speaker 1: he just turned his back right and she just gotten
Speaker 1: rid of the ball to kick him out of field
Speaker 1: goal range. Yeah, he pentally spin out when he should
Speaker 1: have just that was the play with the drive with
Speaker 1: the penalty the right. Yeah, and then he only got
Speaker 1: hit four times instead of ten times. So now you
Speaker 1: got time for routes developed down the field. And it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: they threw deep to Michael Gallup. Well, they've thrown deep
Speaker 1: to him before, right, You know a lot of times
Speaker 1: they either didn't hit or he didn't catch it. And
Speaker 1: this was a pretty contested catch he made. As a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, he bobbled it like twice before he
Speaker 1: pulled it in. So when you make plays and you execute,
Speaker 1: when you protect the quarterback, then you can get two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty five yards passing. But when the guys
Speaker 1: on his butt the whole game, it's really hard to
Speaker 1: throw for two hundred yards. But if you want to
Speaker 1: talk about wrinkles, they did take some deep shots early
Speaker 1: in the game, and some of that is no cuddle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no huddle was more of a couple of weeks here
Speaker 1: that they needed to go tempo. Yep, that was more
Speaker 1: of the wrinkle than anything else. They went huntle real quick.
Speaker 1: They didn't wait to round and as you wrote about,
Speaker 1: I mean try to wear down those big Detroit linemens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they I think it was if the Cowboys
Speaker 1: would have never substituted, they could have played it a
Speaker 1: lot faster pace. But you can you saw clearly Jeff
Speaker 1: rights the umpire. He has to stand over the ball
Speaker 1: until the substitutions are made. And so that's where I
Speaker 1: mean they if they would have Cowboys would just kept
Speaker 1: say eleven personnel maybe on the field the whole time.
Speaker 1: Boom there, they could have they could have played a
Speaker 1: lot faster in that game, though, so, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: hats off to uh, you know, to the coaching staff.
Speaker 1: They did have a good I thought it had a
Speaker 1: really good game plan when you you know, but like
Speaker 1: everything everybody's mentioned here, the execution, the blocking, you know,
Speaker 1: the coreback. Everything about that game offensively was how this
Speaker 1: team is capable of playing. You know that. That's that's
Speaker 1: how they That's how they're gonna have to win games.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to win games running the football, play action,
Speaker 1: the receivers making plays when they can make plays, take
Speaker 1: some shots down the field, throw a screen pass for
Speaker 1: a big play. A lineman did a heck of a
Speaker 1: job of getting out in space, not only on the
Speaker 1: screenplays and stuff, but running the foot, pulling tackles, pulling guards,
Speaker 1: pulling centers. You know, if you're gonna play four man
Speaker 1: front against this team, get ready for number seventy to
Speaker 1: be on the edge blocking for you. Be ready for
Speaker 1: number fifty two being on the edge blocking. You know,
Speaker 1: those are things that are all very very positive. And
Speaker 1: if you're able to get teams to spread out and
Speaker 1: have to defend that, now things are going to happen
Speaker 1: up for you inside they can't crowd things up in there,
Speaker 1: and you can maybe take a few more of those
Speaker 1: opportunities to run the ball inside, like what they were
Speaker 1: doing with the readoption stuff. And number seventy three getting
Speaker 1: out there and blocking two like I know, we call
Speaker 1: him Jumbo Joe, and he's jolly blocking some stuff for
Speaker 1: him yesterday. And god, he was down there at the
Speaker 1: end zone helping free Zeke to get into the end
Speaker 1: zone on that screen, all three offensive linemen on their
Speaker 1: feet blocking, and that's key when you get guys outside
Speaker 1: and you get linemen use the old cut and on
Speaker 1: the ground and it looks bad, but all three of
Speaker 1: their offensive linemen were up and running down the field
Speaker 1: as that play was developing. Zack Martin said, Joe Looney's
Speaker 1: the fastest offensive linemen on the team. He said, don't
Speaker 1: go to sleep by Joe's speed, But he was down
Speaker 1: there running quickly. I got to look up Joe Looney's speed. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm sure, Zach never stop watch to him. We're gonna ask.
Speaker 1: We're gonna ask him tuesday, you know. To your point, Thoughbrien,
Speaker 1: about the defense, and I don't think there shouldn't have
Speaker 1: been anyone in the stadium that was surprised when the
Speaker 1: Cowboys go up, they drive eighty five yards in sixteen plays,
Speaker 1: take eight minutes, and then they have to settle for
Speaker 1: a field goal in a six point lead. There should
Speaker 1: have been nobody in that stadium or watching on TV
Speaker 1: surprise that Matthew Stafford was able to drive seventy five
Speaker 1: yards in six plays for a touchdown, and for that matter,
Speaker 1: or even the drive before that. And that's where I've
Speaker 1: been concerned about the Dallas defense from the beginning of
Speaker 1: the season. From that standpoint, when you go up against
Speaker 1: a potent offense that has to score, can you stop
Speaker 1: can you stop them? Because that was not the case
Speaker 1: against Carolina or Seattle, because of what especially by because
Speaker 1: of what was happening with Dallas. Offensively, once those teams
Speaker 1: got leaves, they shut it down offensively, right, and so
Speaker 1: you Stafford, And also to your point, I mean, the
Speaker 1: saving grace for the Cowboys is that they scored fast
Speaker 1: enough that they left enough time on the clock for
Speaker 1: they left two seventeen. Yeah, they left them two seventeen.
Speaker 1: I think the thing that it was the most disheartening
Speaker 1: to me, you know, with with offensively, if you want
Speaker 1: to say it, is the fact that you know, the
Speaker 1: Austin drop costs them four points. And then also too
Speaker 1: though you look at the you know not you know,
Speaker 1: the past. You can say what you want the pasta
Speaker 1: Rico gathers, whether it was well designed or poorly thrown
Speaker 1: or whatever. You know, you can take whatever opinion you
Speaker 1: want there. But that was another opportunity right there. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, back in the day, and I was I
Speaker 1: just again had these flashbacks of Green Bay in my
Speaker 1: head last year, where you leave you know, you even
Speaker 1: quality quarterback enough time, you're not covering their receivers all that. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, you knew going in this was gonna be
Speaker 1: you know, I just worried about them driving the football
Speaker 1: and taking the complete time off the clock, and then
Speaker 1: you get in back with ten seconds left with no
Speaker 1: shot to win the game. Right, And you looked at
Speaker 1: those that series and said, okay, run the ball four
Speaker 1: times there. I mean, I admire the coaches for going
Speaker 1: forward on fourth and one. I learned something yesterday that
Speaker 1: you have to recover the fumble if it goes into
Speaker 1: the endzone. I didn't know that rule, but you know,
Speaker 1: I think it's on fourth down, fourth down only well
Speaker 1: if you get inside the two. I knew that rule.
Speaker 1: But when one official signal touchdown and then the other
Speaker 1: three went running in like, oh, we'll wait a minute, bro.
Speaker 1: You know, no, you don't know the rule. You know,
Speaker 1: and you're an official, But I think that to me
Speaker 1: that that, you know, I give Garrett credit for going
Speaker 1: for it that particular time. I thought that was the
Speaker 1: absolute right thing to do, even though his defense was
Speaker 1: playing with a little bit of peril. But man, you know,
Speaker 1: we also learned that Blake Jarring can't make a catch
Speaker 1: in an NFL game. That's true, Yeah, that's true. But
Speaker 1: the thing about it is, I just wish they would
Speaker 1: have just hammered that thing a beautiful drive. You know,
Speaker 1: all the plays, the yardage, the way they were kind
Speaker 1: of mixing and matching it, and you know, you just
Speaker 1: think it just finished this thing by hammering it in
Speaker 1: four times, you know, and and but you know you
Speaker 1: get a little cute with it, and and and you
Speaker 1: know you have to kick a field goal and it
Speaker 1: puts you in harm's way first in goal at the
Speaker 1: six that would have been I ended up with it.
Speaker 1: Okayle the past is swaying. That was way too high.
Speaker 1: Did it got to throw it earlier? Yeah, and it
Speaker 1: looked like Swayin was open. He was open. You gotta
Speaker 1: throw it earlier. And he did it on the waggle
Speaker 1: to start the game. He threw the ball. There's sometimes
Speaker 1: where Dak will he'll drift and drift and drift, and
Speaker 1: we're and we're all in the box yelling what you know,
Speaker 1: and he and he, But yesterday, what did he do?
Speaker 1: He got Swaying kind of swaying. They sold it hard,
Speaker 1: play action left and it drew everybody. Swaying just pivoted
Speaker 1: and went up the sidelines. Yeah, but he got him
Speaker 1: the ball quick and then they allowed Then you got
Speaker 1: some blocks down the field. If he throws the ball
Speaker 1: on that play the way it was designed on the
Speaker 1: on the goal line. He's got him. He's just gotta
Speaker 1: gotta go with it. He just can't keep drifting. You
Speaker 1: run out of space. So I'm wondering if if he
Speaker 1: knew he was late with it, and it can be
Speaker 1: a dangerous pass, right, all that thing could be clanging
Speaker 1: around in there. So he tried to put it high
Speaker 1: where Swain was the only one who could get it,
Speaker 1: and it just sailed well. He had he had an
Speaker 1: had somebody behind swaying the other thing. Gallup was behind him,
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, oh, Gallup, you know what. That play
Speaker 1: was destined to fail because they had to call time
Speaker 1: out before they ran that play. And I saw him
Speaker 1: going tap Tavon Austin on the helmet because he was
Speaker 1: lined up like the shovel play slot slot back or
Speaker 1: whatever they used to call those guys. And and then
Speaker 1: he lined up there again and I said, oh, they're
Speaker 1: going to give it to him on a round And
Speaker 1: they didn't, Rob Rob. I mean all that said, like
Speaker 1: Brian said, first and goal at the six, zeke average
Speaker 1: six yards of carry, Just run it four times. This
Speaker 1: is just this is just me. It's just me too,
Speaker 1: but hand it to him. I couldn't stop him. I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: every time you throw the ball it's incomplete. The clock
Speaker 1: is not moving, and you did a hell of a
Speaker 1: job to get it to that point. Just keep the
Speaker 1: clock moving, you know, you know, run it okay, it's
Speaker 1: another minute, keep it, run it again, it's another you know.
Speaker 1: Just don't leave them any time to do anything. And
Speaker 1: then if you score now, they're they're in harm's way.
Speaker 1: They can't come back and win that way. Stand up
Speaker 1: throwing it twice right and there was five left. You
Speaker 1: had run run, give me a kip, made a been
Speaker 1: down to three fifty. Exactly exactly was Zeke? Did he
Speaker 1: come off on that drive? Well he was getting spelled
Speaker 1: a little bit by Rods for one minus one. Well
Speaker 1: he took the first carry first and goal at the sixth,
Speaker 1: all right, he ran for two. But I wonder if
Speaker 1: he was hobbled a little bit where they that might
Speaker 1: have played a role in their thinking that he did.
Speaker 1: I'm Gary Brown. I look at him and they're like, bro,
Speaker 1: I need you right now, I need you to go
Speaker 1: in there and score me a touchdown. I've got to,
Speaker 1: you know, you've got me to this point, just please
Speaker 1: finish this thing off for me. Although they only needed
Speaker 1: two twenty two to go down and score. Oh I know,
Speaker 1: but but if you maybe, if you score the touchdown,
Speaker 1: put a little more pressure. You put a little bit
Speaker 1: more pressure on them to have to make Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: let's take our first break here. We want to take
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Speaker 1: want to find out what went wrong on that Golden
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Speaker 1: I think I'm involved, I think Mickey, I mean you
Speaker 1: might be involved. And I think Derek Eagleton's involved, And
Speaker 1: I don't know who the third party. Maybe this week yeah,
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Speaker 1: All right, I like it? Okay, Now, what happened on
Speaker 1: the Golden Tate second touchdown? Handle this one? Mickey? Um,
Speaker 1: I think they had another busted coverage. Man, Well, clearly
Speaker 1: that a busted coverage TV broadcast. On the TV broadcast,
Speaker 1: Charles Davis was doing the game, and the blame was
Speaker 1: laid squarely on the shoulders of Anthony Brown. He didn't
Speaker 1: enough depth. Yeah, yeah, but if you saw the way
Speaker 1: he played it, he was playing it underneath. Yeah. It
Speaker 1: wasn't like it thought he had deep help, right, but
Speaker 1: I should have because they were in a cover three
Speaker 1: right and uh Chitabewoozi for some reason bit on the
Speaker 1: guy in the slot. It was a galla day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and there was there two there, Tate and Galad right
Speaker 1: there and Tate brand what basically was a like a
Speaker 1: wheel out and Galla Day went towards the middle, and
Speaker 1: and Brown was supposed to get depth underneath and make
Speaker 1: sure if the throw was over there, it had to
Speaker 1: go over Woods. Was side deep safety in the middle right, Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: And so that's what should have happened. And a Woozier
Speaker 1: should have moved over. And I think you can tell
Speaker 1: by the body language of Chris Richard afterwards when they
Speaker 1: were on the bench, he was directing his ire kind
Speaker 1: of in a Woozier's direction, not the with Frasier. I
Speaker 1: think it was Fraser. I think it was Frasier there.
Speaker 1: But if I remember, because he got caught short, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's Frasier. Wouldn't worse in the middle. Woods had enough problems,
Speaker 1: But I mean it was it was Frasier got By
Speaker 1: the way, are we starting to develop a deal here
Speaker 1: with when Jeff Heath's on the field, they don't play
Speaker 1: very well defensively. Oh, when Jeff Heath is not on
Speaker 1: the field, not on the field. Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: if Jeff played his best game now, he missed a
Speaker 1: couple of tackles and he ended up with a stinger
Speaker 1: on the shoulder. I thought he got concussion. So, hang on,
Speaker 1: did we not call that penalty when the running back
Speaker 1: lowers his head? Just gonna say that that helmet goal?
Speaker 1: I mean that includes the running back righting to initiation
Speaker 1: content and it was intent, right, I just those both
Speaker 1: the goal line. I don't think they're gonna call that.
Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't. I just don't think they're
Speaker 1: gonna call it in that situation when a guy's trying
Speaker 1: to score. I just that's that's one of those things
Speaker 1: I excited understand when what you guys are saying. And
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, Nate and I even talked about
Speaker 1: it in the studio when it happened. I said, he
Speaker 1: lowers his head there, and Nate looked to me like,
Speaker 1: and he trying to score? And I'm like, yeah, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: I guess they'll see intent. Yeah, is he trying to
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know the rules anymore. A
Speaker 1: matter of fact, the catch that was ruled a catch,
Speaker 1: I think Tate with the ball looked like it was moving.
Speaker 1: He really didn't have control. We still don't know what
Speaker 1: to catch it but it was a catch. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: then I'm thinking, Okay, that doesn't look like a catch.
Speaker 1: But okay, now it's a catch, all right, I get it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't really know the rules. At least
Speaker 1: they got one of those, right. Yeah, when the guy
Speaker 1: trapped the ball on the ground, that's true. They challenged it.
Speaker 1: And the next one, his top hand came off the ball.
Speaker 1: That's what I thought myself. Yeah, I mean it looked
Speaker 1: like to me it was kind of moving around there.
Speaker 1: And so I don't know, but you know, it's I
Speaker 1: will give Jeff Rice some credit. He got the in
Speaker 1: the attent of the rule for roughing the passer. He
Speaker 1: absolutely got it right because he was blowing the whistle,
Speaker 1: his hand was in the air, and the Lions defender
Speaker 1: clearly ran into the left shoulder and could have caused
Speaker 1: some problems for you know, hitting Dak Prescott in the
Speaker 1: back that way. So good call on his part. And
Speaker 1: it looked to me like the Lions defender knew that
Speaker 1: he had committed a foul as soon as he did it.
Speaker 1: The way he pulled back heard the whistle. Yep, that's right.
Speaker 1: He had a chance that he had a chance, but
Speaker 1: he just didn't stop. So you know, if they don't
Speaker 1: in the defense, you know, if they had just given
Speaker 1: up seventeen points, don't give up that touchdown there, you
Speaker 1: would have said, okay, fine, yeah, right, you know, make
Speaker 1: him kick a field goal. Yeah, carry on Johnson for
Speaker 1: as good as he was. Did you see his final numbers? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was gonna explain what was his long run? Two
Speaker 1: nine for fifty five? Yeah, so I mean for twenty three. Yeah.
Speaker 1: See to me, that's that's where you know, you look
Speaker 1: at this and you go, okay, and Blunt had seven
Speaker 1: carries for twelve yards. I'll take that, and that was
Speaker 1: the first play of the game, right, yeah. Right. The
Speaker 1: thing that worries me is again this secondary and Bill,
Speaker 1: if you that's what you're talking about that it worries
Speaker 1: me that they you know that they they allowed some
Speaker 1: of the plays that they did, and you know it's
Speaker 1: not all I mean, they clearly had a plan going
Speaker 1: in to go after a Woozier and go after Brown
Speaker 1: in this game. Seemed like he was getting targeted constantly
Speaker 1: the other way? Did they never did go the other way?
Speaker 1: And you know, and that's where that's where you know
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to sit there and a Woozier is
Speaker 1: a tough guy mentally, he really really is. And you
Speaker 1: know he can take the punishment that that that coach
Speaker 1: is gonna Christopher Shard is gonna coach him hard. But
Speaker 1: he take it. You know, he's he's a tough guy.
Speaker 1: He'll bounce back that kind of stuff. But it's a
Speaker 1: little bit of concern. You know what, they played dime
Speaker 1: one time in the game yesterday. Man, they gave up
Speaker 1: a touchdown on it. Hell yeah, everybody's like going, what
Speaker 1: about Jordan Lewis, Why don't you play Jordan Lewis? And
Speaker 1: then you know, you see what happens there. And I'm
Speaker 1: not just picking on Jordan Lewis. I'm just saying, if
Speaker 1: you want to know overall, that's a tough team to
Speaker 1: have to defend with. The receivers had two hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty two yards and receptions. Now think about that, fifteen
Speaker 1: catches as a group for two hundred and sixty two yards.
Speaker 1: I believe the number was at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: That's a great trio wide receivers. A quarterback they could
Speaker 1: get it to him as well. And yeah, the Lewis
Speaker 1: play as as golden take comes out of his break,
Speaker 1: Lewis balance and then he jukes Jeff Heath down the
Speaker 1: sideline and makes a hell of a play and eighty
Speaker 1: three yards on two touchdowns. Yeah yeah, and they basically
Speaker 1: the guy slips and you have a busted coverage. You know,
Speaker 1: Woozier what' he was getting beat beat? He was there,
Speaker 1: the passes perfect, and he couldn't get a hand on
Speaker 1: the ball. See that's what I'm saying. If you in
Speaker 1: that position, you're like, man, just make a play here.
Speaker 1: And but all right, you're right. I mean there was
Speaker 1: some minutes justing catches there. Well, I mean, what about
Speaker 1: on the other side, what could have been a touchdown
Speaker 1: pass to Tavon Austin. Darius Slay, one of the best
Speaker 1: corners in the league, is right there with the coverage,
Speaker 1: and still it could have been completed. Yeah, it should
Speaker 1: have been completed. It was right in his hand, right,
Speaker 1: it was the hand, but it was Tito had several
Speaker 1: plays like that where he is in great position, but
Speaker 1: it was like pinpoint. I guess you give him credit,
Speaker 1: you know, you give him trying for throwing the ball,
Speaker 1: But man, I think you give that credit for putting
Speaker 1: that ball to Tavon like he did. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: the past to Zeke and then went in crunch time too.
Speaker 1: I mean it was a perfect throw over shoulder. It
Speaker 1: was a Willie Mays catch. It was yes, yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: let's go to Phil in Louisiana. You are on talking Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Hello Phil, Bill. I'm glad you're back because I've been
Speaker 1: waiting a while to call you back with another word
Speaker 1: of the day. All right, Today's word of the day
Speaker 1: is compendious. Compendious or the day. It's a synonym for fifthy. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, an honor of Brian. Oh, okay, no, just kid,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I mean, I guess I'm trying to
Speaker 1: have a question. I'm lost, But go ahead, a question, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: or comment would be good right now? Yeah, when do
Speaker 1: we get smart in Louisiana, by the way, well, I
Speaker 1: mean when the water levels lowered. Yeah, I went to
Speaker 1: school in Louisiana, so I can make that comment. He
Speaker 1: must be a northern Louisiana all right. But the word,
Speaker 1: but the word was compendious. Spionn't containing or presenting the
Speaker 1: essential facts of something in a comprehensive but concise way.
Speaker 1: I think that pretty much describes Brian brought us and
Speaker 1: analysis of cowboy yames. But go ahead, weren't talking. Cowboys
Speaker 1: are just about everything. I talked them on the game itself.
Speaker 1: But I guess I'm segueing into our guy Earl Thomas.
Speaker 1: I lost a bit of respect for him yesterday when
Speaker 1: he did that flip job. And I guess this ducktails
Speaker 1: into my question about player contracts. I wanted to know
Speaker 1: what you guys were at on that. I mean, they're
Speaker 1: happy with the contracts when they sign them, but at
Speaker 1: some point they think I'm say, they meaning that factional
Speaker 1: player that will not play unless this contracts go to negotiate,
Speaker 1: and I know it takes into account not maybe not
Speaker 1: a majority of players, but players like Earl and Levian
Speaker 1: and some of these other guys that will sit out.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to know what you guys were out
Speaker 1: on stuff like that, because I mean, I know ownership
Speaker 1: they don't they want to renegotiate if they would need
Speaker 1: help from a player to for salary cap space. But
Speaker 1: when it comes time to negotiate a player wanting it,
Speaker 1: what what? What? What's your guys take on that? All right,
Speaker 1: we appreciate the call Phil in Louisiana. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll said it was a big stadium. You know,
Speaker 1: he could have been he could have been pointed. That
Speaker 1: may not have been directed towards the Seahawks sideline. That's
Speaker 1: one of those Brian m Yeah, that's Look, when you're
Speaker 1: a veteran player like that and you signed a nice
Speaker 1: contract like that, you've got to put some protection in
Speaker 1: that last year, exactly right. You've got to look, all right,
Speaker 1: here's looking at his contract. Yeah, here's his contract with
Speaker 1: that he signed four years, forty million dollars signing bonus
Speaker 1: nine point five million. His average salary was ten million.
Speaker 1: Guaranteed at signing was nineteen point seven million. Okay, so
Speaker 1: he made in twenty fourteen, he was at six point
Speaker 1: seven million ll four point seven was his base. His
Speaker 1: base in fifteen was five point five his base in
Speaker 1: sixteen was eight million, his base in seventeen was eight
Speaker 1: point five million, and his base and eighteen was eight
Speaker 1: point five million. If he did not want to go
Speaker 1: the distance on that contract, then his salary in that
Speaker 1: last year needed to be seventeen million or whatever. Right
Speaker 1: he needed to negotiate that. At the beginning when he
Speaker 1: did the contract if he wanted to get out of
Speaker 1: the contract, but he's some option that was a very
Speaker 1: club friendly contract on the backside of that to keep
Speaker 1: him for the duration and Seahawks won. Then the contract
Speaker 1: deal there, I mean basically, yeah, but they lost their
Speaker 1: safety and injury, right and now you know they're they're
Speaker 1: just like the Cowboys there, and they lost their safety,
Speaker 1: they lost their safety mentally. Yeah, even yeah, so if
Speaker 1: he is a if he's a player that the club
Speaker 1: really covets and wants to keep on his team, you
Speaker 1: want to keep them happy too. He will rehab somewhere else. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he will have his surge and he will and he
Speaker 1: will rehab somewhere in that area, and he might even
Speaker 1: come back to Texas to rehab his stuff. But the
Speaker 1: lesson learned for Earl Tom is he should have taken
Speaker 1: care of this at the contract when he signed the contract.
Speaker 1: Is agent or whoever should have made sure that he
Speaker 1: had an out at the end of that car or
Speaker 1: what you need is a roster bonus in March right
Speaker 1: that says, Okay, if I'm here, cover yourself for the
Speaker 1: next year. Make that bonus big enough that they've got
Speaker 1: to make a decision if they're keeping you, and if
Speaker 1: they want to keep you, then instead of paying that bonus,
Speaker 1: they'll renegotiate the contract and extend you. And that's what's
Speaker 1: got to protect yourself because because and I'm sure they
Speaker 1: looked at it, it's like, Oh, this contract's gonna finish
Speaker 1: when I'm twenty nine, so I get another contract. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: but now you're gonna be thirty, and is everybody gonna
Speaker 1: pay you? Now you're at the mercy of your rehab
Speaker 1: and you know, does somebody want to trade for him
Speaker 1: for a seventh round pick? Well, you know, he's got
Speaker 1: a situation too where it was a bone. It wasn't
Speaker 1: his knee or ligament. Yeah, yeah, it's just a break
Speaker 1: that he can heal up and be ready, so that
Speaker 1: shouldn't affect him for free agency. I have a feeling though, guys,
Speaker 1: in a few years we're going to see a big, big,
Speaker 1: big fight for guaranteed contracts. I think this is going
Speaker 1: to be a big hold up twenty one. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think so. I think that we will all probably be
Speaker 1: need to be doing something else in our lives because
Speaker 1: this thing is not going to go forward with the
Speaker 1: way that it currently is. They're going to fight for
Speaker 1: their their drug policy. They're gonna fight for guaranteed contracts.
Speaker 1: They see what's going on in the NBA, they see
Speaker 1: what's going on in Major League Baseball. This is the
Speaker 1: only professional league that doesn't have guaranteed contracts. They happen
Speaker 1: to a point. We've seen some guaranteed money with quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: That seems to be the one. You know, the Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins got a guaranteed deal, but for everybody else, nah,
Speaker 1: this is this is not going to be the case.
Speaker 1: And the problem is it's easier to guarantee contracts when
Speaker 1: you have fifteen guys on a roster and twenty five
Speaker 1: guys on a roster. When you have fifty three on
Speaker 1: the roster, and now you're gonna start with this status thing,
Speaker 1: Well I guaranteed you this, Well what about me? I'm
Speaker 1: not getting it right. So that causes a problem, especially
Speaker 1: a fight. Get ready, with the level of injuries that
Speaker 1: happened in the NFL compared to the other sport. You
Speaker 1: mentioned Thomas at this point, if you're Seattle, you let
Speaker 1: him go in free agency and you get you get
Speaker 1: a third round compensitory pick or something like that. John
Speaker 1: made his bed. So John made his bed. As long
Speaker 1: as he comes back and plays well, right, he'll sign
Speaker 1: with somebody. He'll sign with somebody, and he'll get a
Speaker 1: big deal somewhere. I'm sure they said it's it's a deal,
Speaker 1: it's a clean break, and he'll be back. Was it
Speaker 1: on a shin or his ankle? I don't know that,
Speaker 1: but because I thought it was his achilles the way originally,
Speaker 1: that's the way it looked, the way they were treating it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he'll get paid. He'll okay, I shouldn't say he'll get
Speaker 1: paid to his you know, probably what he's making. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're gonna look at the market and say, okay, this
Speaker 1: is but he's gonna have to he's gonna get it
Speaker 1: asion where he would like to go play. I just
Speaker 1: believe somebody will take that opportunity to that. He just
Speaker 1: may not get fourteen million a year. Somebody brought up
Speaker 1: Seattle franchising him. I bet he'd rather retire at this
Speaker 1: point than be in that situation with Seattle next year.
Speaker 1: The way he has talked about and the way that
Speaker 1: unfolded yesterday with the bird, I mean, wow, that's not
Speaker 1: a good situation. So what if the Cowboys had made
Speaker 1: that trade and then the first game with the Cowboys
Speaker 1: that happens. I mean that very reminiscent of Joey Galloway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right there, you very reminiscent. I mean I remember
Speaker 1: sitting in a hot, tired press box getting my ass
Speaker 1: kicked by the Philadelphia Eagles and that guy's laying on
Speaker 1: the field, and then the report is he blot his knee.
Speaker 1: Talk about throwing up in your mouth the Pickle Juice game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they muled our ass, they really really, So maybe the
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks give him a finger back and say we
Speaker 1: franchised you. God correct me if I'm wrong, and I
Speaker 1: about ugly. I was hearing some rumors in speculation. Again,
Speaker 1: I don't want to make this all about Earl Thomas talk.
Speaker 1: But did somebody, and I need to ask somebody, maybe
Speaker 1: you guys know, did he John Snyder come out and
Speaker 1: say he would trade he would take a second round
Speaker 1: pick from anybody but Dallas. Is that is that? I've
Speaker 1: never seen John Snyder talk publicly. Well, maybe there was
Speaker 1: some whispers somebody brought up a second round pick Dallas
Speaker 1: solid second round. Well, if Dallas was one of those sons.
Speaker 1: If Kansas City wanted him for two, they would give
Speaker 1: him up, but Dallas had to go to and something else.
Speaker 1: Oh well, I there was a schefter story yesterday about
Speaker 1: what Mickey said. I mean, they still want a second
Speaker 1: round pick for him, right, but but yeah, but the
Speaker 1: kicker was that he if you the Dallas, if Dallas
Speaker 1: wanted the player, they were going to have to offer
Speaker 1: more than the two. That Snyder was willing to take
Speaker 1: the two from anybody else but the Cowboys. That's what
Speaker 1: I was kind of hearing some whispers on well good,
Speaker 1: so now he's gonna get a three, he's gonna get
Speaker 1: six now for an injured player. Yeah, all right, Look,
Speaker 1: you trade a guy if he's on IRR. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're allowed to trade an injured player,
Speaker 1: but that's we could making sure to look at the rules.
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Speaker 1: A vested veteran? Is a vested veteran? I wish I was.
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Speaker 1: really good dress like that? Yeah? They all right? In fact,
Speaker 1: is Nate there? Oh, Nate's always there, sweating up a store.
Speaker 1: Got to wear that with Nate there? With Nate, you
Speaker 1: remember how Nate used to get on everybody in the
Speaker 1: video and what they wore on the team chart. To
Speaker 1: see him in the pregame or the post game show.
Speaker 1: He dressed us up nicely in the post. He had
Speaker 1: a glasses look too that looked good less him and
Speaker 1: him and Kevin Gogan. He would be all over what
Speaker 1: the media would wear on the team charter. Call Bill Swanbeck. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Bill Swanbeck, who was a TV reporter for Channel four.
Speaker 1: And uh, who was it Gogen or Nate that made
Speaker 1: him all over him? When did he had like a
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy suit? Well, he had these sport coats and
Speaker 1: Time of Leisure suits. Yeah, and Nate. Nate would see
Speaker 1: it and he goes, oh, Swanny, go to the Salvation
Speaker 1: Army to get that coat. I mean, he would just
Speaker 1: kill him. You'd see on the charter, you'd see Nate
Speaker 1: coming down the aisle and I would just bury my head.
Speaker 1: And he was like, it was like my one month
Speaker 1: of law school where I just buried my head in
Speaker 1: the book, hoping I wouldn't get called on to pick
Speaker 1: on the guy that was the editor of Cowboys Weekly. Um, oh,
Speaker 1: spain Stone, because he was quiet, unassuming, he didn't play
Speaker 1: any thing right. But if there were fifteen stories in
Speaker 1: the weekly, Ron wore ten of them right, And so
Speaker 1: he'd come walking by and Nate goes, bye, Ron spain
Speaker 1: Why Ron Spain. And you know what, Pam Oliver went
Speaker 1: to school with them. Yeah, at no with n LA.
Speaker 1: Pam would talk about how he would sit at the
Speaker 1: fountain where everybody had to walk by during classes changing
Speaker 1: and he would do the same thing. They were just
Speaker 1: calling everybody out that they wore loving buddy. That's just funny,
Speaker 1: all right. The best player on the field yesterday, obviously
Speaker 1: was Ezekiel Elliot. Elliott, who is the best defensive player
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys yesterday, DeMarcus Lawrence. Did you see as
Speaker 1: he signs? Yeah, eight tackles, three sacks, speaking of getting paid,
Speaker 1: three quarterback hits, two tackles for losses place the run. Well,
Speaker 1: that's where I was going. Like Brian was talking about
Speaker 1: how they stopped the run. He's a part of that.
Speaker 1: And only only everybody wants talking about his sack numbers.
Speaker 1: But that was a big part of what he did
Speaker 1: last year to get in the Pro Bowl. The guy
Speaker 1: is chasing down plays everywhere from all over the field,
Speaker 1: and he's a complete football player. And you're right, he's
Speaker 1: gonna get paid. Keeps this up. He's gonna get paid.
Speaker 1: What's he making this year seventeen? Yeah, plus he's gonna
Speaker 1: be just fine. Yeah, maybe you don't have a place
Speaker 1: at the end for old old Thomas at the end
Speaker 1: of the day. Yeah, I mean maybe Mickey. Mickey will
Speaker 1: tell me that they could sign everybody, which he's probably
Speaker 1: right about that. But you know what, I'll give a
Speaker 1: shout out too too, not just one guy. I'll give
Speaker 1: a shout out to the linebackers as a group when
Speaker 1: you look at what vander esh Smith and I even
Speaker 1: throw Damian Wilson in there a little bit, because what
Speaker 1: did those guys do they came up with. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say they came up with seventeen tackles. It was seven
Speaker 1: for Jalen, six for Okay. So with that being said,
Speaker 1: you were looking for how do you make up for
Speaker 1: Seawan Lee's eleven tackles? You know, how do you make
Speaker 1: up for that? And I think those three guys did
Speaker 1: a really nice job. Jalen Smith I give him a
Speaker 1: lot of credit, you know, the blitz, the way he
Speaker 1: was able to kind of fake the blitz and then
Speaker 1: show up on the blitz and attack the pocket and
Speaker 1: help with sack. You know, again, I didn't think they
Speaker 1: were able to get pressure on Matthew Stafford the way
Speaker 1: they did. I mean, his numbers were great, Matthew Stafford,
Speaker 1: but they were able to affect him and some of
Speaker 1: those throws. And I feel like though that they were
Speaker 1: looking for a reason. We were all like going, Okay,
Speaker 1: how do you get by without Sean Lee? How do
Speaker 1: you get by without Shawn Lee? That was going to
Speaker 1: be the biggest question mark. And if those if those
Speaker 1: linebackers can continue to play where it's six seven four
Speaker 1: or you know, nine eight three, you know, if they
Speaker 1: can continue to put numbers together where it makes up
Speaker 1: for Shaun Lee like that with those tackles, this this
Speaker 1: team will be all right until they get him back
Speaker 1: in the lineup. Bender. I'm sorry, Matt vander Esch. He's
Speaker 1: he's instinctive, he's diagnosis plays, and he's got the physical
Speaker 1: tools to go finish plays and defeat blocks. M Lawrence
Speaker 1: is credited with the only quarterback hits in the game,
Speaker 1: three of them. Three of them. How surprised Smith? I
Speaker 1: thought Smith had went on the blitz. You know, they
Speaker 1: got around him and made him uncomfortable. Sure that was
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, twenty four for thirty is still good numbers,
Speaker 1: it is, yeah, But but I think it could have
Speaker 1: been a hell of a lot worse. Yeah, I think,
Speaker 1: and they did. There were some third downs they were
Speaker 1: able to get around him and affect the way he
Speaker 1: threw the football, mat throw him over the top of
Speaker 1: him or sack him in the pocket. I mean, there
Speaker 1: was a couple of times I thought when there some
Speaker 1: sacks they were gonna be able to get the ball
Speaker 1: out of there. Maybe created turnover, but I think those
Speaker 1: numbers could have been that could have been a lot
Speaker 1: higher for Stafford if they didn't have the pressure that
Speaker 1: they had. Gregory got some pressure early. Yeah, Brian mentioned
Speaker 1: Taco Charlton. I'm sorry, um Tyrell Crawford getting us Taco
Speaker 1: how to tackle for loss. So, yeah, they were affecting him.
Speaker 1: And and hey, you have David David Irving eligible to
Speaker 1: come back this week. We'll see what kind of see
Speaker 1: what kind of shape he's in. Yeah, because we don't
Speaker 1: know what's up with with Antoine Woods who left with
Speaker 1: a calf injury in the middle And speaking of uh,
Speaker 1: David Irving. So they will get a roster exemption for him, uh,
Speaker 1: And but he'll is allowed to practice and then by
Speaker 1: Saturday they have to make a decision if they're gonna
Speaker 1: put him on the fifty three or not, and then
Speaker 1: if they don't, then by Tuesday he automatically goes on
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to get one week. They they
Speaker 1: they it's almost like they'll automatically get it. They gotta
Speaker 1: apply for it, but they'll get it. So one week exemption.
Speaker 1: You have to go, well, if he's gonna play Sunday,
Speaker 1: do you have to cut somebody's Saturday Saturday? But you
Speaker 1: go through the week of practice, they will not make
Speaker 1: a decision on him, and until probably after practice there
Speaker 1: will be an email on Saturday that says that David
Speaker 1: Irving if he's ready, yeah, right, right, And you know
Speaker 1: he hadn't pushed against him. You can do all the
Speaker 1: running you want. He hadn't pushed against anybody, but they
Speaker 1: might be in such a bad shape. Yeah, because if
Speaker 1: you know, you get him back now he's going to
Speaker 1: play the three. You hope that you maybe get Collins back.
Speaker 1: You heard anything on Collins Mickey, Uh, you know he
Speaker 1: it it. They said he didn't practice on Friday, right,
Speaker 1: but he did some of the individual joels. Okay, he
Speaker 1: didn't do enough to qualify practicing, but he was moving
Speaker 1: around pretty okay. It would be nice to have him,
Speaker 1: because what happens is you lost Woods, who's a one.
Speaker 1: You lost a nose tackle there for probably a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, and then you're now you're thinking, okay, well,
Speaker 1: David Irving is really a three technique or an undertackle.
Speaker 1: You got Crawford who's already kind of playing as the undertackle,
Speaker 1: not kind of. He's the starter at the undertackle right now,
Speaker 1: whether a little light is that one technique? So you know,
Speaker 1: they need to get they need to get Collins back.
Speaker 1: You know Red. I thought Reid was okay in the game.
Speaker 1: I mean he was active. It's clearly they haven't he
Speaker 1: hasn't worked with the other guy. I mean training camp,
Speaker 1: he got some work with him, but the stunts and
Speaker 1: things that they need, how clean that needs to be,
Speaker 1: where he needs to be, where the other defensive end
Speaker 1: needs to be, you know that stuff that you know
Speaker 1: he'll only get with better with practice. But I think
Speaker 1: they're a little bit of a there's some there's some
Speaker 1: problems that they're gonna need David Irvin to be active.
Speaker 1: I think this week and against the against the Houston Texas.
Speaker 1: Now when they played read he was playing one time.
Speaker 1: He was playing the one right right, And it does
Speaker 1: sound like David Irving is in better shape than he
Speaker 1: was OTAs when he you know, looked like me, Wait
Speaker 1: was not good? No, you look great? No thanks, he
Speaker 1: was not a why he was not in the shape
Speaker 1: that they wanted him to be in for sure. So
Speaker 1: now Woods now this morning, Jason thought he and Heath
Speaker 1: it was encouraging. Okay, it sounds like I said I
Speaker 1: was heard from people last night. It was a calf.
Speaker 1: It was a calf, and he was probably gonna miss
Speaker 1: some time and he had missing going in. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: missing some time you know, might mean he doesn't practice
Speaker 1: all week and let's see what happens at the end
Speaker 1: of the week. But you know, I wasn't. It was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I know they're gonna need to do something. Is But
Speaker 1: that was last night. Mickey and coach talked this morning
Speaker 1: on one oh five three. So but he also qualified
Speaker 1: with Okay, let's see how it is when they wake
Speaker 1: up today. Sorry, and that was when he left yesterday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when you sleep on it, he gets worse. I can
Speaker 1: vouch for that. And it was just a stinger for
Speaker 1: Heath right right, I thought he got. I thought he
Speaker 1: was going in concussion profile. You know, if we were
Speaker 1: doing talking Lions today, they would probably be talking about, well,
Speaker 1: why didn't we throw the ball more? If you look
Speaker 1: at after that thirty two yard run by Carrie on
Speaker 1: Johnson to start the game, the Cowboys shut down their
Speaker 1: run game, is what we're talking about. And if you
Speaker 1: look at their first two possessions of the game, they
Speaker 1: were focused on running. On the first possession, they wound
Speaker 1: up hunting. They came out throwing on their second possession,
Speaker 1: but then they got into the Cowboys into the field
Speaker 1: at the forty five and it was blunt for three,
Speaker 1: blunt for one, and an incompletion punt, and then when
Speaker 1: they threw the ball they had success against the Cowboys offense.
Speaker 1: But to y'all's point on DeMarcus Lawrence and how big
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence was as far as the past defense is concerned,
Speaker 1: the one stop that they had in the second half,
Speaker 1: the first possession of the second half was when Lawrence
Speaker 1: got a sack right and the other two possessions that
Speaker 1: they had and so also credit the Cowboys offense for
Speaker 1: helping out the Dallas defense for once this season with
Speaker 1: the sustained drives they had in the second half. The
Speaker 1: Lions only had three possessions in the second half. See,
Speaker 1: that was that was key to me, and that's why
Speaker 1: I wanted to finish it off with a touchdown run
Speaker 1: because I'm I got greedy. If you're gonna say you
Speaker 1: kill almost with how many the drive kill? Eight minutes? Yes,
Speaker 1: I was trying to kill eleven minutes is what I
Speaker 1: was trying to do. And you know, and and it
Speaker 1: kind of played out that way, and then they got
Speaker 1: down there. I'm like, and I looked at Nate and
Speaker 1: I said, Nate, They've got to run it four times here,
Speaker 1: don't they And He's like, oh, absolutely, they're gonna run
Speaker 1: it for you know. And then you just kind of
Speaker 1: start going and you know what they were doing, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, and then the pasta rico and I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: is that really a high you know? Is that a
Speaker 1: high caliber play right there? Is that the right play?
Speaker 1: And you know, and it just so many things bothered me.
Speaker 1: And again I started having flashbacks to look. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, all this guy needs is one drive, you know,
Speaker 1: and one drive and let him get in position and
Speaker 1: he'll milk the clock. Down to nothing and then you're
Speaker 1: you got and then you got nothing to work with.
Speaker 1: If they had not won that game, they had not
Speaker 1: converted on that final drive, And look, Dak needs a
Speaker 1: lot of credit for the presence of mind he had
Speaker 1: on that last drive to pick up that ball. And
Speaker 1: no question, I mean, that was in some ways the
Speaker 1: play of the game right there. Yes, um, but if
Speaker 1: they hadn't won the game, that would have been the
Speaker 1: whole narrative. It would have been defcon one about the
Speaker 1: play calling situation down at the line of scrimmage yard line,
Speaker 1: why didn't you hand the ball to Zeke? I mean
Speaker 1: it would have been I know they wanted to figure,
Speaker 1: they wanted to run the best plays to score a touchdown, Okay,
Speaker 1: but do you think it entered their mind at all
Speaker 1: that if we keep running it and we get down
Speaker 1: to third down or fourth that whatever, you know, we're
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a decision to make. If it's fourth
Speaker 1: and a half yard, do we kick the field goal
Speaker 1: or go for it? Okay? But if we do that,
Speaker 1: then the time is down so low that it's down
Speaker 1: to two thirty left and we're not gonna have time.
Speaker 1: When Stafford, well, I just I feel like, yeah, you see,
Speaker 1: to me, the drive is it's a really good mix,
Speaker 1: you know, of the running and how you know when
Speaker 1: you get down there. Yeah, they know you're going to
Speaker 1: hand the ball, but your line is coming off, well,
Speaker 1: your tight ends are actually getting some blocks. I'm taking
Speaker 1: my chances that guy is gonna get six yards on
Speaker 1: three carries. Well, I'm taking my chance too on the
Speaker 1: first play, and so he just needed four yards yeah
Speaker 1: the next two. That's what I'm saying. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: take my chance that you know that it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: But I'm not leaving Matthew Stafford any time to really
Speaker 1: work with. Or if you do leave him time, at
Speaker 1: least you have a big enough lead to where, yeah,
Speaker 1: where he can't he's gonna have to score. He's gonna
Speaker 1: have to onsite kick, he's you know all these things
Speaker 1: are you know, instead of just making a one score game.
Speaker 1: Oh oh. One of the narratives from last week is
Speaker 1: how come we didn't run as much zone read? How
Speaker 1: come we didn't run zone read this week? We have
Speaker 1: we not heard that question this week? They tried. Do
Speaker 1: you know there were some times where he handed it?
Speaker 1: He handed it. He handed it and there, you know,
Speaker 1: he could have might have worked down there. Sure it
Speaker 1: could sure quarterback draw any I mean we saw a
Speaker 1: quarterback drawing Carolina down there, you know. I mean, so
Speaker 1: that drive, shouble pass anything on that drive. They had
Speaker 1: a third and two, Zeke up the middle for seven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they had a third and one. Zeke went off left
Speaker 1: tackle for two and first down. And when they were
Speaker 1: at that third and two, I was sitting there and
Speaker 1: they're at the forty two. I said to myself, Okay,
Speaker 1: run it twice, yeah, forty two. If you don't get it,
Speaker 1: just run it again. Keep running because it's two. You're
Speaker 1: you're in that no man's land. I punt right, Frank Reich?
Speaker 1: Or do I go for it? Oh? Wow? Yeah? And
Speaker 1: then bless his hardy. The ice is the kicker, and
Speaker 1: the guy misses it, it gets a second ye if
Speaker 1: in case y'all missed it. Indianapolis, Frank Reich, they went
Speaker 1: for it on and in overtime it was like a
Speaker 1: seventh seconds and so he goes for it on fourth
Speaker 1: and four at his own forty three yard line rather
Speaker 1: than punting it away in a tie game with twenty
Speaker 1: seconds left and so tech, the Texans stop it. They
Speaker 1: take over at the Indianapolis forty three yard line. They
Speaker 1: complete a twenty five yard passed the Hopkins got him
Speaker 1: down into field goal range chip shot basically thirty eight
Speaker 1: yard or something like that. And uh and so then
Speaker 1: reich Ice is the kicker and he misses the kick,
Speaker 1: hold it time out was called, so he gets a
Speaker 1: second chance and boots it through, and the Texans snap
Speaker 1: a nine game losing streak. And that's your Cowboys next opponent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Texans gave up seven sacks in that game. Did they
Speaker 1: really gave up seven sacks? In a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: they lead the league in sacks given up. I think
Speaker 1: they got seventeen now, so the hot Boys that boys
Speaker 1: aren't far behind now, I think, yeah, But that's again
Speaker 1: here you are. You're dealing with a quarterback that it's
Speaker 1: played a little bit better this week with Watson. But man,
Speaker 1: they got receivers again too. I'm sure we'll get in
Speaker 1: all that coming here up in the next couple of days,
Speaker 1: for sure. Brought back memories of Switzer in Philadelphia. Load
Speaker 1: load left left. Bad day at the office. Well, it
Speaker 1: was cold, they wanted to get off the field, you
Speaker 1: know it was windy too. Yeah. Right. Oh, hey, all
Speaker 1: ended well though, didn't it. Yes? It did? Right? They
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl over here, by the grace of God.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of heartache along the road to the
Speaker 1: super Bowl. Yeah, that might have been the hardest super
Speaker 1: Bowl ever won. That's right, not only to get there,
Speaker 1: but then to win it too. I'll never forget. I've
Speaker 1: told the story the scene in the coach's locker room afterwards.
Speaker 1: They were all strewn out on the floor. They weren't
Speaker 1: even sitting in their chairs. They were just on the
Speaker 1: floor against these benches, half undressed. And I said, it
Speaker 1: looked like a bunch of boat people that just landed.
Speaker 1: I mean, they were so relieved to have won. There
Speaker 1: was no celebration. Do you think it was the same
Speaker 1: scene in the Cowboys locker room yesterday after the field goal.
Speaker 1: I knew one thing. Nate and I were laughing about this,
Speaker 1: but because they showed the owner's box, so Jerry led
Speaker 1: up there and I said, this decision affects that group
Speaker 1: right there. That's the question I had. Okay, before that kick,
Speaker 1: who had the biggest butterflies or lumping their stomach or wherever?
Speaker 1: I couldn't drive and nail up the river. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was it the kicker. Oh no, is that box the coach,
Speaker 1: the Boers box, the owner's box. So Steve and Ja
Speaker 1: all the owner's boy, all those all those folks up there,
Speaker 1: they they knew what was on the line, especially the
Speaker 1: heels of Dan Bailey having a decent game on Thursday
Speaker 1: night for Minnesota. I think the least amount of pressure
Speaker 1: was on the kicker. Did you know about that one?
Speaker 1: Did you see what he said afterwards? Jerry? No, he said,
Speaker 1: I'm glad I wasn't trying to kick the field goal.
Speaker 1: I think that's as much pressure as you but some
Speaker 1: of it got left out. He was talking about how
Speaker 1: he had a lump in his stomach and throat. He said,
Speaker 1: there's no way I could have made it. Yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: that's the drama. It's just just another sing in the
Speaker 1: national football He's eight for eight sinstead opening and tell
Speaker 1: what he's also what they call a flat liner. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you listened to his interview afterwards. He's a lot like
Speaker 1: Dan Bailey. Yeah, kicker sale just it's just one for
Speaker 1: one every time. That's a big kick. But he look,
Speaker 1: that's a lot of pressure. You go back and look
Speaker 1: at how relaxed he was on that kick. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean Garrett said he could have drilled it from sixty
Speaker 1: the way he booted it, but but he just his
Speaker 1: body his body language didn't. When I saw the replay,
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, he just looks so relaxed. And
Speaker 1: then in his interviews afterwards, I said, well there's a flatline.
Speaker 1: Well there's good. What you need to be will play
Speaker 1: the game management at the end. I've always been critical
Speaker 1: of Garrett in this crew. But they got the ball
Speaker 1: over on the left hash. Obviously they keitho quinn said
Speaker 1: where do you want this football? And he said put
Speaker 1: it on that left half. He saw those kicks last week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that we're starting right, so it was clear that the
Speaker 1: left hash is his faded to the right. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: hit it straight, that one he hit and Carolina went
Speaker 1: straight at the right up right, didn't curl. So all right,
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