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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you missed in History Class from how

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Speaker 1: Stuff Works dot com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Katie Lambert and I'm Sarah Dowdy. And Katie and

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Speaker 1: I talked about the glamorous jet setting life the Duke

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Speaker 1: and Duchess of Windsor in another podcast, and we only

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Speaker 1: briefly touched on what most people would consider the dark

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Speaker 1: side of their life. And a good symbol of the

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Speaker 1: dark side of their life would be the picture of

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Speaker 1: Adolf Hitler kissing the hand of the Duchess of Windsor,

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Speaker 1: which certainly does suggest problems, right, And this all starts

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Speaker 1: with a good example their wedding. They're much talked about wedding.

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Speaker 1: Wallace and Edward were married at the Chateau de Conde

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Speaker 1: in France, which was owned by a man named Charles Bideaux.

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Speaker 1: He was an eccentric millionaire known for his work with

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Speaker 1: scientific management and also for an expedition he sponsored called

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Speaker 1: the Champagne's Arii, but he wasn't as well known for

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Speaker 1: his work for the Third Reich. He would later kill

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Speaker 1: himself right before he was put on trial for treason.

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Speaker 1: So from the very beginning, the shadow of the Nazis

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Speaker 1: is upon this couple. Yeah, and to give a little

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Speaker 1: context to why the once British king could feel sympathy

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Speaker 1: towards the Nazis, Edward feels as much German as English.

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Speaker 1: His great grandfather, Prince Albert, Victoria's husband is of German

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Speaker 1: ancestry his mother Queen Mary Um and he's also an

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Speaker 1: ancestor of King George the First, who is from a

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Speaker 1: German family. He even calls German his mother tongue. But

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Speaker 1: after World War One, the British monarchy wants to distance

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Speaker 1: itself as much as possible from its German heritage. Understandably,

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Speaker 1: King George the Fifth even changes their last name to

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Speaker 1: Windsor from saxocober Gotha, and Edward wants to reclaim this

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Speaker 1: part of his German heritage. And he also wasn't allowed

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Speaker 1: to serve in combat in World War One, and maybe

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Speaker 1: that had a little something to do with his love

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Speaker 1: for the Germans. Yeah, you would certainly think that fighting

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Speaker 1: an enemy in World War One would make you at

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Speaker 1: least have some reservations against them in the Second World War.

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Speaker 1: But he's not allowed to fight because he's the Crown Prince,

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Speaker 1: and he goes on sort of a publicity tour instead,

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Speaker 1: which makes him very popular with his own people, right,

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Speaker 1: But when he takes the throne, his sentiments are a

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Speaker 1: bit at odds with the rest of the British government. Hitler,

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Speaker 1: things simplistically, when Hitler says he's sending forces into Rhineland,

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Speaker 1: England says that it supposed the government makes that known,

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Speaker 1: and Edwards says, both to his own government and to

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Speaker 1: the German ambassador, which was a huge breach of protocol,

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Speaker 1: We're not opposed to this. If you try to stop Hitler,

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Speaker 1: I will abdicate. So the threat of abdication actually came

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Speaker 1: much earlier than his actual abdication. Well, and it's so

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Speaker 1: shocking here that he's stepping far beyond the bounds of

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Speaker 1: real action and grasping at power. Yes, so he does

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Speaker 1: back to being a Nazi. Edward is pretty well informed politically,

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Speaker 1: So everybody is kind of thinking, how does the Duke

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Speaker 1: few months after their marriage, right, and so they dine

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Speaker 1: two people who privately hold pro fascist sympathies. We're talking

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Speaker 1: at odds with their own government. The photos of the

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Speaker 1: visits a training camp, which is reported about him seeing

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Speaker 1: future Nazi leaders and the Windsor set. The people who

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Speaker 1: It's celebrities. They're charming, they're famous. A lot of them

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Speaker 1: These two were actually married in Joseph Gebel's house. He

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Speaker 1: So Britain declares war September nineteen thirty nine, and the

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Speaker 1: Duke is stationed in France as as a British liaison,

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Speaker 1: but he's also communicating with the Nazis. The German Minister

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Speaker 1: actually the plan. The Nazis wanted to kidnap Edward and

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Speaker 1: Joseph Gebel said about the Duke, it's a shame he

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Speaker 1: So the question remains, would Edward have been a quizzling

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