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Speaker 1: This the One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, we are back and ready to roll into

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Speaker 2: NFL Combine week. We are in Buffalo for our final

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Speaker 2: day of the week, because right after we are off

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Speaker 2: the air this afternoon, we're loading.

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Speaker 1: It up in the Yukon and we're off.

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Speaker 2: To Indy as we will hit the road literally and

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Speaker 2: drive out to Indy this afternoon, get there late tonight

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Speaker 2: and beyond the air with full wall to wall coverage

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Speaker 2: of the NFL Combine from the Convention Center there in Indy,

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Speaker 2: which is adjacent across the street from Lucas Oil Stadium

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Speaker 2: where the players will be working out and doing all.

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Speaker 3: That good stuff that we'll see later on in the week.

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Speaker 4: It's well planned, nice set up, great facility for it.

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Speaker 2: But before we get to all of that, I think

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Speaker 2: we would be remiss if we did not weigh in

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Speaker 2: on the gold medal game yesterday between the US and Canada.

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Speaker 2: And even though we are a football show, the reason

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Speaker 2: we need to weigh in on this Steve. And this

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Speaker 2: is not a take that I have heard as of yet.

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Speaker 2: It's probably been said elsewhere. I'm not saying my comment

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Speaker 2: here is unique in any way. But when people have

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Speaker 2: asked me, the very few like yourself that missed the game.

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Speaker 2: You were on a camping trip up in the Adirondacks,

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Speaker 2: You had no modern technology available to you.

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Speaker 3: All I can say is.

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Speaker 2: Anyone on the planet that was an American that tuned

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Speaker 2: into that game yesterday. Casual fan knows nothing about hockey

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Speaker 2: died in the wool. Hockey fan NHL avid follower of

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Speaker 2: the league knows it backwards and forwards. You could have

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Speaker 2: been somebody that has never laid eyes on an ice

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Speaker 2: rink before. If you watch that game start to finish,

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Speaker 2: it contained every possible element of anything anyone would have hoped.

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Speaker 3: To have seen in the game.

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Speaker 2: Drama, tension, suspense, thrilling highs, violence, like anything that you want,

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable saves, uh, heart thumping moments, nationalism, rivalry, drama, tears,

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Speaker 2: pure joy. There's other adjectives here that I'm missing. It

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Speaker 2: had everything. There is no Hollywood producer that could have

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Speaker 2: hoped for more in a movie than you got from

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Speaker 2: that game yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So right, we were.

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Speaker 4: I was in the woods in the Adirondacks camping with

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Speaker 4: my sons annual annual winter camping.

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Speaker 1: We were in. It was.

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Speaker 4: We snowshoed in the whole thing there for a couple

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Speaker 1: Knew the game was coming. We were gonna get it.

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Speaker 4: So we get out of the woods and we're absolutely exhausted.

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Speaker 4: And the first no, you know, because we got things

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Speaker 4: we're you know, we're you know, we're thinking about other things, right,

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Speaker 4: we're getting like, oh, yeah, the hockey game.

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Speaker 1: Text my wife, what about it?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 1: What did you? She she and my wife?

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Speaker 4: And I told you brownie, my wife, my wife, bless

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Speaker 4: her soul, my bride. She's pretty sure that when the

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Speaker 4: as a goal.

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Speaker 1: That's what she knows about hockey.

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Speaker 4: And all she could say ringe follow all she could

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Speaker 4: say when I asked her about it, She goes, Oh

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Speaker 4: my god, did you.

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Speaker 1: You have to come home and watch this game again

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Speaker 1: with me? She want to watch it again.

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Speaker 4: I'm like what She goes, Oh my gosh, she goes,

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Speaker 4: I skip church.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people did.

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Speaker 4: I was you're kidding, I go this It must have

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Speaker 4: been epic to have you, you know, she goes Oh,

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Speaker 4: just wait, just wait. So then I'm going through the

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Speaker 4: text sloops of you know, the my golf league buddies

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Speaker 4: You know, you have text loops with let's go. So

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Speaker 4: I got home last night. We watched the overtime. That's

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Speaker 4: all I got a chance to see so far.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you need to watch it. I will try not

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 4: I heard it was, you know, from the text loop.

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Speaker 4: I didn't talk to anybody about it or text about it.

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Speaker 4: I just read what everybody has said about it. I

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Speaker 4: guess it was very physical.

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Speaker 3: It was physical.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say the the US had the better

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Speaker 1: And then after that they were hanging on by their fingernails.

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Speaker 1: Now what was the score? Now, what happened in the

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Speaker 2: The US scored on their first shot one wow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think four or five minutes in Boldie had it.

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Speaker 1: Let's go all right? So the Connor hellibook absolutely yeah,

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Speaker 2: Save that might go down as one of the five

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Speaker 2: best saves in the history of hockey. Really, I mean

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Speaker 2: it was insanity, absolute insanity.

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Speaker 3: Like I was like, how did that not go in?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: So the Canadians as there as is, and Canadians poured

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Speaker 3: They poured it on that period.

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Speaker 1: The Canadians were all about it.

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Speaker 2: They were in on Team USA for their hanging on

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Speaker 1: Were it? Was it not? Was it cruciating?

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Speaker 3: Was it not for Hellibuck?

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Speaker 2: They would not have had a chance in that game,

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Speaker 2: or even five to one something like that. He was magnificent,

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Speaker 2: absolutely magnificent. And every player after the game said as much, like,

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Speaker 2: we don't win.

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Speaker 1: Without that dude. He's what everybody said. Yeah, unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: So so the Canadians come back after they're going down

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Speaker 4: one h and when did they score two goals?

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Speaker 1: Unanswered, Well, no, they well it finished two to one.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. When did they score their time?

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Speaker 2: They scored uh second period? Okay, if I remember right,

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Speaker 2: They had a ton of chances like Nathan McKinnon missed

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Speaker 1: And he missed the net. He put it on the

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Speaker 1: those guys are just so they had their chances. I

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Speaker 1: get it. Yeah, Canadians just got to be sick about it.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 2: I mean third period, I think it was third period

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Speaker 2: or late second period. A third period, US wrung one.

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Speaker 1: Off both posts, ping ping out.

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Speaker 2: So I mean US had chances shot, but not nearly

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Speaker 1: Canada just poured it on. They were all over them.

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Speaker 2: It was just it was a scramble, Like the last

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Speaker 4: And I would have thought wrongly that when you go

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Speaker 4: to overtime three on three, the Canadians go.

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Speaker 2: Prett deep, right, but there's a lot more space on

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Speaker 2: in a five on five situation, And look, I'm not

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Speaker 1: Three, You're cooked. That's what happened. You're cooking.

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Speaker 2: They were in a change and there was a fifty

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Speaker 1: From the defenseman, you know, and that's the game. That's

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Speaker 1: the game one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it had everything, and then after the game,

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Speaker 2: you thought it was you thought it was over right, right,

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Speaker 2: game's over. US guys are skating around the rink with

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Speaker 2: a Johnny gadrou jersey.

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 3: I saw that his parents are in the stand crying.

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Speaker 1: The dad couldn't hold it together, but crying.

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Speaker 2: His wife with their kids is in the in the

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Speaker 2: was having a tough time. She's like, oh, dear God, like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: could not handle it. Emotionally ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. It's just

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Speaker 2: everything you could have wanted in that, every single element

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Speaker 2: back to when I was almost eight years old in

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty watching ABC and watching the the US Russia game,

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Speaker 2: which was the anniversary same day forty six years earlier.

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Speaker 2: I'm an almost eight year old watch I was glued

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Speaker 2: to the television for that game, which was on tape delay.

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Speaker 2: It was not air by ABC, right, so this is

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Speaker 2: before Internet, long before and I was glued to that thing,

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Speaker 2: and I was going I Forty six years later, I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was like eight years old.

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 2: The only thing I didn't do was run out onto

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Speaker 1: I'll say this.

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Speaker 4: When I was watching the women's hockey game, the gold

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Speaker 4: medal game, which was every bit as good, I reacted

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Speaker 4: the exact same way. I was going crazy. I was

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Speaker 4: really moved by it. And then to have been to

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Speaker 4: see how the men's game ended.

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Speaker 1: What a moment.

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Speaker 4: It's the kind of thing you and I were there

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Speaker 4: in nineteen eighty. I grew up in the state which

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Speaker 4: it was true. There wasn't even an ice rink in

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Speaker 4: play hockey, there was no place to play hockey, and

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Speaker 4: the rollerblades.

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Speaker 1: Were what what of that?

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Speaker 4: So the four roller skate Yeah, I mean we'll be

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Speaker 4: So it was a different kind of thing. But now,

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Speaker 4: given where the sport is and how much it's grown

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Speaker 4: over that time forty six years later, yeah, you're gonna

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Speaker 4: have You're gonna have a ton of kids saying what

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Speaker 4: I wonder if I could learn to skate? Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 4: because I'll tell you what, nothing that I've experienced outside

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Speaker 4: the eighties Olympic team just just bowl blows through all

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Speaker 4: walls and divides and division.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's like, wow, yeah, it is awesome. Which

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Speaker 1: is a lot of help, but be cool with.

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Speaker 2: Which was a lot of what was going on in

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty Yeah, Jimmy carrnder procession and gas lines, like,

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Speaker 2: there was a lot of stuff going wrong or not right,

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Speaker 2: I should say, in the country back then. And you know,

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Speaker 2: you had the Iran hostage crisis. Just a lot of

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Speaker 2: And you know, those kids in nineteen eighty, which I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna say it again. If you haven't watched The Boys

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Speaker 2: of eighty on Netflix, you need to watch it. It

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Speaker 2: is original footage and it's sit down interviews with all

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Speaker 1: Wrote it in twenty nineteen to his future, so less

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Speaker 1: It was amazing.

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Speaker 2: It delivered on every note that it possibly had. On

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Speaker 1: Mike Urico said it, he really did.

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Speaker 2: cap space. Wilson was a player the Bills reportedly pursued

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Speaker 2: at the trade deadline last November, but he ultimately got

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Speaker 2: traded to the Cowboys. I don't know if that interest

447
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Speaker 2: would still be there because things change, not to mention

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Speaker 2: the fact that it's a very good linebacker draft. So

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they would be looking to invest,

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Speaker 2: but maybe they would be curious to see where that goes.

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Speaker 2: Logan Wilson also a former college teammate of Josh Allen

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Speaker 2: at Wyoming. So well, what do you know, Not that

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Speaker 2: that necessarily means anything.

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Speaker 1: But we'll see nothing means something.

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Speaker 2: Well, yes, in a manner of speaking, NFL Combine News.

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Speaker 2: Three NFL prospects who are projected to be top twenty picks,

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Speaker 2: two of them maybe top five, are going to go

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Speaker 2: through the combined workout. A lot of times the top

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Speaker 2: prospects sit out, but that is not the case for

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame running back Jeremiah Love and Ohio State prospects,

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Speaker 2: pass rusher r Vel Reese and linebackers Sunny Styles all

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Speaker 2: going to work out this week in Indianapolis. And I

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Speaker 2: appreciate that when we see some of the top guys,

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Speaker 2: you know, go through the paces.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, particularly, and I'll say this too, linebacker, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's a good that's a good idea. Linebacker go out

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Speaker 4: and work out. You may as well pass rusher okay,

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Speaker 4: running back, Yeah, go work out. I don't think you

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Speaker 4: have anything to lose, particularly if you're confident in your

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Speaker 4: and what your skills are and what your tape shows.

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Speaker 4: I think some of these guys realize as well. For

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Speaker 4: NFL teams, the important part of it is the medical, right,

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Speaker 4: That's that's what this is all about. They because teams

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Speaker 4: are supremely confident and rightfully so, they're supremely confident in

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Speaker 4: their ability to glean all the information athletically from the tape.

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Speaker 4: They can watch you play, I mean good grief from

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Speaker 4: two different angles. Every game, every snap you've ever played,

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Speaker 4: they'll watch it, so they get an idea of what

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Speaker 4: you can do and whether you can play or not.

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Speaker 4: What they don't know is if the ankle injury you

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Speaker 4: had for two weeks in the first part of the

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Speaker 4: start of the season is still there gone, or the

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Speaker 4: surgery you had earlier in your career is it's still

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Speaker 4: bothering you. That's what they don't know, and that stuff

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Speaker 4: is non negotiable. So it's the combine's nice, but it's

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Speaker 4: it's a physical examination dressed inside a workout and so

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Speaker 4: most of these guys know that if they do the physical,

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Speaker 4: nobody needs to seam run. That's why you get Brandon

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Speaker 4: Bean and all these guys in there. They like guys

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Speaker 4: that they like, they know what they can do on

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Speaker 4: the field. They'll say, man, please run slow, so nobody

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Speaker 4: else wants you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean he says it all the time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And so I'm yeah, so that it's it's cool

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Speaker 4: that these guys are working out, and I I always

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Speaker 4: wanted to. I always wanted to do that, you know.

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Speaker 4: I think, yeah, that's something you kind of let's go, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: let me go run a forty let's see.

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Speaker 2: NFL Competition Committee co chairman Rich McKay revealed on Sunday

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Speaker 2: that he is not anticipating a proposal to ban the

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Speaker 2: tush push during this offseason. Quote there's no team proposal

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Speaker 2: that I've seen from it, so I wouldn't envision it,

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Speaker 2: but you never know.

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Speaker 1: End quote.

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Speaker 2: A ban, as we know, was proposed by the Green

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Speaker 2: Bay Packers at this time a year ago and came

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Speaker 2: up just two votes short of passing when it was

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Speaker 2: voted on last May, and Chiefs head coach Andy Reid,

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Speaker 2: when asked about the prospect of tight end Travis Kelsey,

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Speaker 2: returning for his fourteenth NFL season, said quote, there is communication.

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Speaker 2: As long as there's communication, I'm good. That means people

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Speaker 2: want to move forward. I think that's where Travis is

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Speaker 2: Kelsey is set to become an unrestricted free agent. But

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Speaker 2: I think if he has any thought of playing, he

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Speaker 2: would be.

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Speaker 1: Doing that with the Chiefs. Yes, that's right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, unless the Chiefs are trying to pay him

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Speaker 4: veteran minimum, which I mean, I don't know how you

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Speaker 4: justify that. He's playing in Kansas City. You think Brown,

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Speaker 4: I think, yeah, you got to play him.

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Speaker 2: He was still the team's leading receiver last year. He's

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Speaker 2: just seventy six for eight fifty.

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Speaker 1: He's too smart. You gotta cover him.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you could reduce his role.

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Speaker 1: You know, you can do anything you want, but reduce

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Speaker 1: his snap count.

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Speaker 4: You trust him when you throw him the football, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know, that's that's it. You got a quarterback, an

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Speaker 4: all time quarterback, who knows the guy who's going.

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Speaker 1: To trust him.

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Speaker 4: So that's yeah. I would say, yes, bring him back.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what the number would be.

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Speaker 2: Less because they have they have some serious cap constraints.

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Speaker 2: They're still over right now.

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Speaker 1: So I get all that you know, but you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm all for Travis Kelsey playing again. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm all for it.

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Speaker 2: Before we go to break your topic of discussion today,

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Speaker 2: what is the top thing the Bill should be looking

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Speaker 2: at with the draft prospects at the NFL Combine? You

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Speaker 2: tell us at One Bill's Live on the tweets and

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Speaker 2: we'll be turning to your comments when we return here

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Speaker 2: on a Monday edition a One Bill's Live presented by

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Speaker 2: Kalida Health.

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Speaker 3: What is the top thing.

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Speaker 2: The Bill should be looking at it with the draft

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Speaker 2: prospects at the NFL Comma, And you tell us at

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Speaker 2: One Bills Live on the tweetsheet, and that is where

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Speaker 2: we're going right now, right now. Tweetsheet brought to you

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Speaker 2: at Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of

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Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills, and Seth leads us off and says

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Speaker 2: speed followed closely by size, wide receiver, edge, linebacker, defensive tackle,

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Speaker 2: safety need to be faster and bigger at all of

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Speaker 2: those spots.

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Speaker 3: I will say, Steven, a three to four system.

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Speaker 2: Your stand up guys on the edges have got to

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Speaker 2: be speed demons like speed is a prerequisite for those roles.

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Speaker 1: You hear all the time.

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Speaker 2: In four to three defenses, how well, your defensive end

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Speaker 2: could be a speed rusher that can bend the edge.

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Speaker 2: But you could also have a guy that's speed to power,

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Speaker 2: you know, or a guy that's just got heavy hands

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Speaker 2: and can just walk an offensive tackle.

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Speaker 3: Back into the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: So there are I think you're gonna have different types

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Speaker 2: of ends in a four to three stand up guys

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Speaker 2: in a three to four, they gotta have speed.

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Speaker 4: To burn, right, And the reason is.

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Speaker 1: Simple.

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Speaker 4: They line up further from the quarterback and they got

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Speaker 4: to cover more ground than a defensive end. A defensive

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Speaker 4: ends over the tackle, maybe outside shade of the tackle

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Speaker 4: on a four to three, and the stand up OLB

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Speaker 4: outside linebacker is three feet four feet wider than that,

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Speaker 4: and he's got to cover more grounds. So the faster

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Speaker 4: they are, the better they are. Now, certainly, speed is

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Speaker 4: something that it's the holy grail of the NFL, and

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Speaker 4: that's the thing that sets it apart from college football.

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Speaker 1: Or any other sport or any other level of football.

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Speaker 4: It's a speed all guys, the biggest of the big

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Speaker 4: can outrun just about anybody.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we saw, you know, last year in the

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Speaker 2: draft the guys with elite physical traits flew off the

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Speaker 2: board early. And it's going to be no different this

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Speaker 2: year because elite physical traits give you an etch. And

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Speaker 2: I know nickim and Warri didn't go until the second

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Speaker 2: round last year, but he was an elite physical trait

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Speaker 2: type player and was instrumental in helping Seattle have one

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Speaker 2: of the best defenses in football and go all the

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Speaker 2: way to the Super Bowl. That's not going to be lost,

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Speaker 2: you know on NFL clubs this year, they're going to

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Speaker 2: look at some of those elite physical trade guys that

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Speaker 2: made a humongous difference for their teams last year, and

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Speaker 2: they're gonna say, I want one of those guys. And

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Speaker 2: there are some in this draft a lot as as

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Speaker 2: a matter of fact, especially on the defensive side of

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Speaker 2: the ball, right, I mean it's not all measurables, as

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Speaker 2: you well know you know better than anybody.

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Speaker 4: But no, it's not. But it it's a must. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you gotta you gotta have something to be.

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Speaker 3: A minimum level.

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Speaker 1: There's athleticism to play in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: That's why you know, you get these guys up here

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Speaker 4: in the NFL. If you're signed to a contract in

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Speaker 4: the NFL, you've got something on the table.

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Speaker 1: Physically.

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Speaker 4: You're either fast, you're tough, you're smart, all that stuff

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Speaker 4: and the tangibles, or you're gigantic. That's right, Either you're

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Speaker 4: Andre the Giant, or you're you know, somewhere in above.

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Speaker 4: You know Spud web right, who's a who could play

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Speaker 4: NFL or play professional.

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Speaker 3: Basketball at like what five to seven?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's what kind of athlete you think that

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Speaker 4: joker is, right, he had a forty four. So you're

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Speaker 4: somewhere on the spectrum right there, either either the elite

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Speaker 4: physical trade on one end, and then a guy who

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Speaker 4: is an absolutely his personal life and his personality a

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Speaker 4: train wreck. You go from from you know, Einstein mixed

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Speaker 4: in with you know, a military officer with discipline and

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Speaker 4: all that, all the way to and that guy sixty

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Speaker 4: five two sixty who could run and he's got all

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Speaker 4: of it all the way down to a guy like

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Speaker 4: me who gets in the door somehow because he runs

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Speaker 4: a good forty time if somebody wants to give him

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Speaker 4: a chance, period.

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Speaker 1: Right, So.

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Speaker 4: That's that's the spectrum you work with. Everybody's got a

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Speaker 4: chance to me. We've been talking about it with that

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Speaker 4: first segment, we were talking about Olympic athlete. You can

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Speaker 4: come from anywhere, but somebody's got to see something in you.

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Speaker 4: Give you a chance and you get in this this combine,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna see a bunch of guys that are like.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, did you see that guy? A bunch of.

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Speaker 3: Them some guy.

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Speaker 2: There is like a handful of guys that are gonna

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Speaker 2: run in the four twos.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be nuts. Like usually you get one or two,

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Speaker 1: there might be five or six.

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Speaker 4: It's the human condition, Brownie. You put something out there

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Speaker 4: and say you can't do it, somebody's going to do it.

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Speaker 4: Somebody's going to do it.

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Speaker 2: We've had this discussion and we've had it before this

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Speaker 2: last season. During the season, the lack of superstar type

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Speaker 2: players on the roster. And I'm not saying that measurables

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Speaker 2: are the end all be all that give players that,

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Speaker 2: but it's no secret that James Cook simply runs away

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Speaker 2: from people, is tremendously shifty and can elude people in

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Speaker 2: tight spaces. Josh Allen has maybe the best arm in football.

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Speaker 2: I mean, these are elite physical traits that they have,

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Speaker 2: and we've talked numerous times about how the Bills don't

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Speaker 2: have anyone like that on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: They have very good players, but they don't have best

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Speaker 2: of the best, elite perennial All Pro defensive players. And

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Speaker 2: I wonder how much Brandon Bean leans towards elite physical traits,

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Speaker 2: maybe even more so than some of the other things

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Speaker 2: that give you confidence that you're drafting a player that

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Speaker 2: you know is going to be able to help you.

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Speaker 2: Do you take a little more risk on elite physical

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Speaker 2: talent because that can burn you too. You remember the

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Speaker 2: player that the Cincinnati Bengals drafted last year, the edge rusher.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he got a major injury and was out

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Speaker 2: for the season in his rookie year, But that was

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Speaker 2: a guy who had elite physical traits but no production.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you can have that.

666
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Speaker 2: But I think as long as there is the requisite

667
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: time on the field experience signs that they can produce.

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Speaker 2: If you have the elite physical traits to match like,

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Speaker 2: you're going to be high on people's boards. And I

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Speaker 2: just think the Bills need to find.

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Speaker 4: There's some super star athletes there's some element to this

672
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 4: as well. Now, like under McDermott, it was a culture

673
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Speaker 4: kind of a thing, and they wanted to do that

674
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 4: and they wanted to get the most and they were

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Speaker 4: very good at player development.

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Speaker 1: As you've said a long time.

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Speaker 4: They maximize the guys they got, and we got some

678
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Speaker 4: guys from the lower rounds who pop Tarn Johnson of

679
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Speaker 4: the world, the Christian Benford's of the world, Milano, all

680
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Speaker 4: these guys from the rounds who all of a sudden

681
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Speaker 4: turned out to be really studs.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's a there's.

683
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Speaker 4: A level of this that doesn't get talked about enough.

684
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Speaker 4: And you get a guy with elite traits. There is

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Speaker 4: a lot of coaches at the NFL level who will say,

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Speaker 4: give him to me. I'll make I'll get him. Get

687
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Speaker 4: that guy because I can use that guy's skills. I

688
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Speaker 4: will coach him into being a productive football player. There's

689
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Speaker 4: a couple of guys in the draft every year where

690
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 4: they're running around on defense and you see him on

691
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 4: film and they are unbelievable. Nobody can stop it. But

692
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Speaker 4: they can't tackle, they can't make a play. They don't

693
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Speaker 4: make a play. They're always around it and they never

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Speaker 4: make play. You know, they missed the quarterback six times

695
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 4: in a game, they have a sack and they can't

696
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Speaker 4: even they can't get the guy on the ground, that

697
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 4: kind of thing. But they test off the charts physically.

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Speaker 4: A coach in NFL say, give.

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Speaker 1: Them to me.

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Speaker 4: I can make I can I can do it. I'm

701
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 4: the guy who can unlock his potential. It happens a

702
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Speaker 4: ton in the NFL. Guys see these guys with these trades,

703
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 4: say I can get the guy to do it. It'll

704
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 4: be interesting to see with a new staff what those

705
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Speaker 4: defensive coaches on on Jim Leonard's side of the ball

706
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 4: think about these guys. Do they want to lean heavy

707
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Speaker 4: into traits?

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Speaker 1: That's interesting. I don't know.

709
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Speaker 2: I think they definitely have to lean into size at

710
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Speaker 2: the nose tackle position.

711
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: That's obvious.

712
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 2: Your defensive linemen, you know, the guys playing the three

713
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 2: down linemen positions, they got to be bigger and longer

714
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 2: because the gaps are bigger. You're covering more gaps with

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Speaker 2: three guys. I know you have two stand up guys,

716
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Speaker 2: but you you got to be long and you.

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Speaker 5: Have to be big.

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Speaker 1: That's right, That's that's the prerequisite up there.

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Speaker 2: So you're not drafting, you know, two hundred and sixty

720
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Speaker 2: five pound defensive ends you know you're gonna get. You're

721
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Speaker 2: gonna get outside linebackers that go two forty five to

722
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Speaker 2: two fifty five that are at least six three. And

723
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying you're completely married to that. Yes, there

724
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Speaker 2: are exceptions, but you know what, there's very few.

725
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Speaker 1: Of them, very few.

726
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Speaker 2: Like Dwight Freeney was an exception. He was five eleven,

727
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: two forty five and had a Hall of Fame career.

728
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Speaker 2: He was a risk, but Bill Poullian liked what he saw.

729
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: There was enough production and it worked. How many five eleven,

730
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Speaker 2: two hundred forty five pound defensive ends have there been

731
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Speaker 2: since him?

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Speaker 1: Not many? Yeah, there's non Man, we're talking twenty five years,

733
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Speaker 1: a lot of you see these guys.

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Speaker 4: It's a little different, obviously it is, but it's different

735
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Speaker 4: in the college level when you're trying to evaluate these

736
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Speaker 4: guys that is the pro level. At the college level,

737
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Speaker 4: you get a great athlete. College coaches it's their job.

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Speaker 4: Get him on the field somehow, put him someplace, Put

739
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Speaker 4: him someplace. We don't have we don't have a guy

740
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Speaker 4: better than him. Okay, put him in nose tackle. We

741
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 4: don't have a guy better than him, all right, put

742
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Speaker 4: him an outstand up outside.

743
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Speaker 1: So they end up exactly so they stand.

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Speaker 4: They get out there and they're making hay against what

745
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Speaker 4: my favorite go to. They're making hay against dental students.

746
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 4: But they're an outside linebacker now, right. So you get

747
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 4: some of these guys that trickle through with highly productive

748
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Speaker 4: careers because they're such good athletes in other respects, forget

749
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Speaker 4: their measurables. There's such good athletes and smart enough to

750
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Speaker 4: figure out a way to win at their given traits

751
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Speaker 4: that they make it all the way to the pro

752
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Speaker 4: level and get to get looked at.

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Speaker 1: That's how it happens. At the college level.

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Speaker 4: They just try and get the best players on the

755
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 4: field and put them someplace. They find a place for him, right,

756
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 4: they create a.

757
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Speaker 1: Role for him.

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00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 4: At the pros, it's a little harder to do because

759
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 4: you got guys who are established you can depend on.

760
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 4: That's who you're gonna build it around. So you got

761
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 4: to fit in with them. If you don't fit in

762
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Speaker 4: with them, going someplace else, you know what I mean.

763
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Speaker 4: So it's it's it is possible for the exceptions to

764
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Speaker 4: get in the league and have Hall of Fame careers.

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Speaker 4: But the traits that it takes, the physical trades, can't

766
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Speaker 4: be denied. You can't deny him. I mean, you get up,

767
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Speaker 4: you go walk around in these buildings with NFL players

768
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Speaker 4: walking around in him.

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Speaker 1: It's startling.

770
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Speaker 4: How uniform the size and the physical traits are.

771
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Speaker 2: So, what is the top thing the Bills should be

772
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Speaker 2: looking at with the draft prospects that the NFL Combine

773
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: could be traits? Maybe it's something else that's on your mind.

774
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Speaker 2: You let us know at One Bills Live on the

775
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 2: tweetsheet as we are taking your comments and we'll continue

776
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Speaker 2: to do so. Second hour the show, we're gonna check

777
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Speaker 2: in with CBS Sports NFL analyst Corey Hunt. He's gonna

778
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Speaker 2: help us out with some of the draft prospects we're

779
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Speaker 2: going to be looking for at the combine. Emery Hunt,

780
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Speaker 2: excuse me, So we'll catch up with him second hour

781
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Speaker 2: of the show and get the lowdown on what we

782
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Speaker 2: should be looking for when we get out to Indy tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: We'll do that in the second hour of the show.

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Speaker 3: It's more of your comments next here on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Are you looking to be part of the game day

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Speaker 2: experience at New high Mark Stadium. The Buffalo Bill's Guest

787
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Speaker 2: Experience team is hosting a job fair and is currently

788
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Speaker 2: hiring for game day guest experience positions for the upcoming season.

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Speaker 2: Join the team on Wednesday, February twenty fifth. That's this

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Speaker 2: Wednesday and One Bill's Drive in the field House from

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Speaker 2: noon to seven pm for open interviews and on the

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Speaker 2: spot job offers. They're looking for enthusiastic and dependable individuals

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Speaker 2: to help create an elevated game day experience at New

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Speaker 2: high Mark Stadium. Again this Wednesday, noon to seven inside

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Speaker 2: the field House here at One Bill's Drive. A lot

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Speaker 2: of opportunities there and in the new building, which is

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Speaker 2: kind of cool too.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I wonder if if you beat if you

799
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Speaker 4: it's like sign up to you know, get interviewed or

800
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Speaker 4: go through the process of becoming a game day experience person.

801
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Speaker 1: Do you get to go in the state place? Early? Think?

802
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Speaker 3: Do I get a tour?

803
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: Do I get a tour? Fine, I'll take the tour,

804
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm no longer well, I.

805
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Speaker 3: Would assume they're going to for orientation.

806
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Speaker 4: They got to right, Yeah, they're also going to put

807
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 4: in They're going to have a couple of events there, right,

808
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 4: I mean there's always been there like yeah, dry concert,

809
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Speaker 4: you know, concert with smaller with smaller capacity crowd, you.

810
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Speaker 3: Know, okay, just to just to assess traffic flow.

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Speaker 4: Right, So here's a concert that we're going to sell

812
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 4: twenty thousand seats to and go from there, right, Oh yeah,

813
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 4: and start small, is what I'm saying.

814
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Speaker 2: What is the top thing the Bills should be looking

815
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Speaker 2: at with the draft prospects at the NFL combine? You

816
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: tell us add one Bills live on the tweet sheet.

817
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 2: And we began there with Seth. We'll go on on

818
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 2: to RJ, who says wide receiver, massive, human nose, tackle,

819
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 2: wide receiver, center, wide receiver, guard, wide receiver safety, and

820
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: maybe wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: I get the joke here, RJ, you're a hoop. I

822
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 3: feel like.

823
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 2: A good portion, not all good portion of the Bills

824
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,959
Speaker 2: fan base has developed an obsession with wide receiver. And look,

825
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 2: I understand why. You know the last three players drafted

826
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Speaker 2: at wide receiver for the Bills.

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Speaker 1: Let me see if I have this right.

828
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Speaker 2: Justin Shorter, Keon Coleman, and there's one other that's slipping

829
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Speaker 2: my mind right now. That was before them. Oh, Caden

830
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 2: Prather last year, those are your last three receivers drafted.

831
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Speaker 3: All of them had size.

832
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 2: Only one of them is still on the roster, and

833
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Speaker 2: I think that, coupled with the trade of Stefan Diggs,

834
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 2: has left a lot of fans saying we need to

835
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Speaker 2: do more at the receiver position. Now Brandon Bean has

836
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 2: done that in free agency, but the results have been

837
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Speaker 2: mixed in terms of production. Some would even say poor

838
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Speaker 2: in terms of the return on investment. Joshua Palmer had

839
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Speaker 2: a slew of injuries last year, missed a lot of games,

840
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: so the production was not going to be there. Curtis

841
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: Samuel had two years to prove himself, never did and

842
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: his availability was a persistent problem as well. I don't know.

843
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they won't take a swing in free agency.

844
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Speaker 2: Maybe trade is a possibility. It's a good receiver class, Steve.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I heard Daniel Jeremiah on his national conference

846
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 2: call this week. He's got nine teen receivers with Day

847
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 2: one or Day two grades, Like you could get all

848
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Speaker 2: the way into round three and still get a quality

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Speaker 2: wide receiver in round three. So nineteen receivers in his

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Speaker 2: first three rounds on draft grades. I mean, that's that's

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Speaker 2: not nothing.

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Speaker 4: It's a lot, and there is something to it.

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Speaker 1: We say it all the time, or I do. Anyway,

854
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Speaker 1: maybe I'm the only guy that thinks it.

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Speaker 4: The physical toll it takes on you in the game

856
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 4: is telling. It's real. And yeah, when you give them

857
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 4: an ounce, guys will take it. Guys will sit down

858
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 4: just they just don't want to get in a fight.

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Speaker 1: Well, like you said, it hurts to play. It hurts

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Speaker 1: to play.

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Speaker 4: And when you get guys who you know, sign their

862
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Speaker 4: second contract and they get a chance to make money

863
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Speaker 4: just by being hurt, they're gonna get hurt. I don't

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Speaker 4: know that that falls into the category of where the

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Speaker 4: Bills are with Samuel and Palmer, but availability is a

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Speaker 4: real commodity. One of the things that made sense about

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Speaker 4: last year was Joey Bosa. The guy had a career.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he never.

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Speaker 4: Played fifteen seventeen games. I never did this last year

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Speaker 4: he played. I don't remember his absence much at all.

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Speaker 1: Maybe a game might have missed the game. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the guy was in there all the time.

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Speaker 4: I mean, and so it's being available is huge, and

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Speaker 4: you need these guys who it's hard to do now

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Speaker 4: because the money's gotten so big. You need guys that

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Speaker 4: play and they don't care about the money. Yeah, they

877
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Speaker 4: now want to play. Whether they can play for free

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Speaker 4: or not, they want to play. And that's that's a

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Speaker 4: key element to this.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: The next thing that was listed there by RJ on

882
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 2: the tweets sheet was massive nose tackle.

883
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 3: Steve, I got good news.

884
00:46:58,800 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 1: Let's hear it.

885
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 2: There are half a dozen, half a dozen massive defensive

886
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 2: tackles in this year's draft class, and probably only one,

887
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:11,959
Speaker 2: maybe two, are going in the first round.

888
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 3: You want me to run down the list, I'll get.

889
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 2: Darryl Jackson, Junior, Florida State six five three thirty seven,

890
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 2: one of the largest wingspans in the class.

891
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 3: Elite run stuffer.

892
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: Dante corleone what six one three thirty five from Cincinnati,

893
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: nicknamed the Godfather for obvious reasons, elite strength and leverage

894
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 2: with rare movement for his size. Caleb Banks is a

895
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 2: guy we've mentioned already six six three thirty four from Florida.

896
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 2: Long athletic frame, high ceiling. You gotta Lee Hunter, Texas

897
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 2: Tech six three three thirty Kate McDonald, Ohio State. He's

898
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 2: expected to go very early. Six three three twenty six

899
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: Dominique Dominique or Iowa State six four three twenty five.

900
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: Chris McClellan, Darryl Jackson Junior.

901
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mentioned him, Chris McClellan six four three twenty

902
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,760
Speaker 2: three Missouri and six three three point fifteen Peter Woods

903
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 2: from Clemson. There are a lot of them big boys

904
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 2: in this draft, and I think you gotta get one.

905
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 2: Kristin Miller is a guy from Georgia who goes about

906
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 2: three twenty. He's more of an athletic penetrating type, but

907
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:29,959
Speaker 2: I guess in a pinch you could put him there too.

908
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 2: Liked his game. Fantastic kid, Kristin Miller like just a

909
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: all world human being.

910
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 3: But we can get into some of those details.

911
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 4: Mean, you've got guys Nick Barrett who's six three twenty

912
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 4: two out of South Carolina. Zach Xavian Harris has a

913
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 4: lot of big bodies six seven three twenty He might

914
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 4: not be built for but he's an interior defensive tackle.

915
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 1: You know there's some dudes out there. I mean, you don't.

916
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 3: Usually see that. The play.

917
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 4: The sport, Yes, the sport distills these guys up. And

918
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 4: if you're not just quite there yet you don't go

919
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 4: to the next level.

920
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: You don't go to that. You know you don't go there.

921
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: You don't go there.

922
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 4: To get to these spots, you've made it through a

923
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 4: process that has allowed you to show up when you

924
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 4: needed to show up to get advanced into into the

925
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 4: level that these guys are at on these scouting boards.

926
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 4: Uh so they're one percenters whether they make the NFL

927
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 4: or not. So you gotta That's why these the combine

928
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 4: is so huge for these guys, some of most of them,

929
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 4: because I mean, you see the guy on fail you

930
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 4: don't know what. You couldn't recognize his voice, you couldn't

931
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 4: pick him out of a police lineup right, because you've

932
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 4: never seen the guy in person.

933
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: You've seen him on tape.

934
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: But those big guys, the tests that really count for

935
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 2: them are the explosive tests. Because if you demonstrate a

936
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 2: measure of explosion, knowing you play a position that involves

937
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 2: a lot of short area quickness and power, and you

938
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 2: have a good broad jump and you have a good

939
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: vertical leap, well, people believe in your explosiveness and the

940
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 2: ability to knock people back off the line.

941
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 3: The don't scrimmage They.

942
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 4: Don't care what a three hundred and thirty five pound

943
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 4: guy runs a forty in, but they care what he

944
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 4: runs the ten in. Yeah, in the twenty it's another explosive.

945
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 4: They want to know what he runs the three cone in.

946
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 4: You know, they don't care if he can run. If

947
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 4: he runs forty yards, something is awfully wrong and it's

948
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 4: probably not his.

949
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: Fault, right, So.

950
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 4: They have specific tests that they look at for these

951
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 4: big dudes. And yeah, it's it's real. So it's there's

952
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 4: gonna be Yeah, there's some it's nice to see.

953
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 3: There's some lot of big bodies, which is good for

954
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,439
Speaker 3: the Bills. Gotta take a break here.

955
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 2: When we come back, we're gonna be talking more draft

956
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 2: with NFL Draft analyst Emery Hunt from CBS Sports. He's

957
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 2: got over one thousand player reports in him his file.

958
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk to him about some of those players.

959
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 2: Next here on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health.

960
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 4: This is One Bill's Live presented by Kaleida Health.

961
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: All right, back here on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

962
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you, and please to welcome in. Now

963
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 2: CBS Sports football analyst Emory Hunt joining us as the

964
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 2: combine gets underway in Indianapolis, will be out there tomorrow

965
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 2: and there through the rest of the week. But wanted

966
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 2: to get to some primer talk, if you will, and

967
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 2: Emory's here to help us on that. So why don't

968
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 2: we begin here Emory? Because, Uh, the Bills have some

969
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 2: you know, perceived positional needs and it seems like they

970
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 2: fall very well in line with some of the strengths

971
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 2: of the draft in terms of depth at position, and

972
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 2: that would be edge rusher, wide receiver, UH, and corner

973
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: because you can make an argument I think for nickel,

974
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 2: corner UH, and linebacker where you know, change into a

975
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 2: three four, they're gonna need more bodies in here. So

976
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 2: it sounds as though edge, linebacker, corner, and wide receiver

977
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 2: have good classes to great classes in some cases.

978
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 3: Would you agree with that?

979
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 5: Definitely?

980
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 6: And firstly, Steve task is a Hall of Famer in

981
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 6: my book, you know, so then right off.

982
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: Starting put em on our favorites list. Put Emory on

983
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: the list, Thief.

984
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 5: Tasker and my fellow Raging Cage and Brian Mitchell.

985
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: Hold on, there you go. I would agree with that.

986
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,439
Speaker 1: Brian Mitchell was a different He was a different dude.

987
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: I love that guy.

988
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, But anson Brownie's question though.

989
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,919
Speaker 6: So, yeah, it's it's a deep class throughout and we've

990
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 6: seen this be the case ever since COVID because more

991
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 6: guys are getting eligibility, some guys unlimited eligibility, uh, and

992
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 6: we're getting more experienced players on the back end. And

993
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 6: on top of that, because of the way the game

994
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 6: has changed, we're seeing now more three, four or five

995
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 6: wide receiver sets, so we're seeing more wide receivers that

996
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 6: have that time on task that they can step in

997
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 6: right away and play right away. Because remember though adags

998
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 6: used to be, oh, it takes three years for a

999
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 6: receiver to really get this well, now you see guys

1000
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 6: hit the ground running. And on the other side of

1001
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 6: the ball, you have the by product of the offense,

1002
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 6: you're seeing more nickel being based, more dime being based

1003
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 6: in some cases, so you're getting more corners and safeties

1004
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 6: that can get out there and cover. So the depth

1005
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 6: there is evident in the pass rushers, as you talked

1006
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 6: about the edge rushers, because guys are throwing the ball

1007
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 6: a lot more in college, you're getting guys that can

1008
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 6: get get to the quarterback. So we're gonna see this

1009
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 6: deep class because it trickles up, you know. So what

1010
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 6: we're getting from the high school game, you'll get in

1011
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 6: the college game and you'll see a trickle up to

1012
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 6: the program.

1013
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 5: So yes, it's deep across the board.

1014
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 4: Well, we know that your analysis spans the whole game,

1015
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 4: and I want to ask you, do you see I mean,

1016
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 4: what's the college game given the program? Because now you're

1017
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 4: getting it was you know ten years ago where players

1018
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 4: started coming out of college more and more polished and specialized.

1019
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 4: They were getting better coaching down in the flag football

1020
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 4: into the contact football off season, seven on seven stuff

1021
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 4: going on. Happened all over the last fifteen years or

1022
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 4: so a couple of generations of players. How is that

1023
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 4: game changing into positionless football on the defensive side and

1024
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 4: positionless football on the offense. When you get to the

1025
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 4: skill guys, you got wide receivers coming in helping in

1026
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 4: the run game. You got tag tight ends, so they're

1027
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 4: splitting out and running are being used even more diversely

1028
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 4: than they ever have been. So how do you think

1029
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 4: that affects when you look at these classes? What that

1030
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 4: means and what it's gonna tell us about this draft

1031
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 4: coming up.

1032
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 6: That's a great question because when you look at I

1033
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 6: put together a draft guy that has over a thousand

1034
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 6: individual scatter reports every year, and I've noticed this the

1035
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 6: last five I had to segment certain things because it

1036
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 6: no longer is just a standard QB running back wide

1037
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 6: receiver type. So it's so let's say, for instance, for

1038
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 6: a wide receiver, I break them down in the force

1039
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 6: four positions.

1040
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 5: You're split in. I still call it split in.

1041
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 6: But your X receiver, your flank or your Z, your

1042
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 6: slot receiver, your big inside receiver. Think in terms of

1043
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 6: Marcus Colson as that prototype of that position. For tight ends,

1044
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 6: I use three different positions. You have inline, your HPAC,

1045
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 6: and your flex tight end, which is your bigger wire

1046
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 6: receivers that tight ends that don't want block so they

1047
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 6: essentially want to be wire receivers, right, so that when

1048
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 6: it didn't full or the fullback, you kind of have

1049
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 6: your classic fullback and what I like to call your

1050
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 6: single back, a guy that can toe the rock if

1051
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 6: need be, but also can be a blocker as a fullback.

1052
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 5: So we're in on defense. You got corn.

1053
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 6: Even though there's everything's played in the middle of the NFL,

1054
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:18,280
Speaker 6: I still like to designate it boundary corner, field corner,

1055
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 6: slot corner safeties that go free strong, and slot safety

1056
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 6: or combo safety that could play either both or down

1057
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 6: in a nical situation. So you have to start to

1058
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,760
Speaker 6: designate because you see the game differently time and time again.

1059
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:33,439
Speaker 5: At the collegiate level.

1060
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 6: So it's like, Okay, well this guy is probably not

1061
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,760
Speaker 6: twitchy enough to be an outside corner, but he's physical

1062
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 6: enough to where he can play one on one. He

1063
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 6: can match up versus tight ends. I'll call him a

1064
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 6: combo safety. Or you may get the receiver that's that

1065
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 6: you should just be your standard slot receiver. But man,

1066
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 6: you know he's five to ten five five ten, two hundred.

1067
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 6: He told the Rock a little bit. We get him

1068
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 6: on the end of round or jet sweep or these

1069
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 6: tap touch passes where you get the ball in his

1070
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,399
Speaker 6: hands and he's able to do some creative things. Think

1071
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 6: like a Zachariah Branch out of Georgia via usc IN.

1072
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 5: This year's draft class fits that molde to t.

1073
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 6: And when you're seeing the positionless football that we're seeing

1074
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 6: up front on both sides, you're looking at the edge

1075
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 6: guys that are you know, not We used to just

1076
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 6: call them weak side defensive ends now they're called edge rushers, right,

1077
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 6: and so you have your under tackles, you have your

1078
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 6: nose tackles, so you kind of have to really silo

1079
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 6: guys into where they could best fit, because that's what

1080
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 6: we're getting from the collegiate level.

1081
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 2: I want to dive into more of the depth of

1082
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 2: the class that you talked about, Emery, because as you know,

1083
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 2: the Bills for the last several years are picking at

1084
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 2: the bottom of the round and a lot of times

1085
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,919
Speaker 2: what they're after is off the board, particularly in round one,

1086
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 2: and I expect the same to be the case at

1087
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 2: the edge rusher position. The Bills are switching to a

1088
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 2: three to four system under new defensive coordinator Jim Leonard,

1089
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 2: so there's gonna be some turnover there in terms of

1090
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 2: scheme fits. But as you said, the edge rusher class

1091
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 2: is very good. It's also deep. But there's about eighteen

1092
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 2: twenty teams that can make an argument for needing an

1093
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 2: edge rusher, so they're gonna fly off the board and

1094
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 2: you're picking twenty six. So my question to you, Emory

1095
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 2: is let's assume the value isn't there and they don't

1096
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 2: have an edge rusher with the first round grade. By

1097
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 2: the time they're on the board at twenty six, what

1098
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 2: could they get on day two that could still I mean,

1099
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 2: do you think the class is deep enough where on

1100
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 2: day two the Bills could still get themselves an edge

1101
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 2: rusher with some enticing potential.

1102
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 6: See See, here's the thing, there's I got a running

1103
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 6: list of things that were a mistake in life, number

1104
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 6: one being speakerphone. That's by far, you know, so one speakerphone.

1105
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 6: Mock draft would be somewhere in the in the top three,

1106
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 6: you know. Because the mock drafts may people believe there's

1107
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 6: only one round in terms of acquiring talent, and because

1108
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 6: I go so deep and evaluate these prospects, I'm like, bro,

1109
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 6: I'm excited about the seventh round guy that they got,

1110
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 6: or this guy that got as an underrafted reagent, like

1111
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 6: like the kid Wande Owens from New Hampshire. Phenomenal player,

1112
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 6: he's on the Bills practice spot outstanding football player.

1113
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 5: Right.

1114
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,479
Speaker 6: But that's just me being a geek and a nerd

1115
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 6: setting all these prospects. So there's board talent outside of

1116
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 6: round one, is what I'm saying. So even if the

1117
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 6: Bills don't get a guy who may seem constantly over

1118
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 6: and over again in these mock drafts.

1119
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 5: In round one, don't fret.

1120
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 6: In day two, you can find yourself a cash is

1121
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 6: Marsh of Texas, A and M a guy that just

1122
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 6: phenomenal in terms of getting to the quarterback and what

1123
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 6: he does really well. Kets how, I'm sorry. Marsh played

1124
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 6: at u C. L A Harold Perkins unique player. When

1125
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 6: we first saw Harold Perkins out of LSU, he looked

1126
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 6: like the next coming of Micah Parsons. And then the

1127
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 6: next year they moved him to off ball linebacker and

1128
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 6: he's spending time covering running backs, some tight ends. In

1129
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 6: this past season he played more of a star position

1130
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 6: in terms of like a strong safety slash linebacker hybrid,

1131
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 6: but he still can get after the quarter And Jim Leonard,

1132
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 6: we know he played at Wisconsin. We just saw at

1133
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 6: the East West Shrine Bowl, Mason Rieger winning MVP three

1134
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 6: sacks in that ballgame getting to the quarterback. That's a

1135
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 6: guy you can probably get on day three. So you

1136
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 6: have body types, different body types. How is more of

1137
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 6: your traditional edge guy that could put his hand in

1138
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 6: the dirt but also can stand up because he has

1139
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 6: that type of athleticism Rayger is someone that can be,

1140
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 6: you know, just your straight third downbo get him. Perkins

1141
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 6: would be unique because where can he fit. He can

1142
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 6: fit everywhere, you know, so he can fit on the

1143
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 6: edge as an undersized guy, he can blitz from the

1144
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 6: interior linebacker position, or if you want to have more

1145
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 6: guys that can get to the quarterback or fly to

1146
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 6: the football on the field, he could be your star,

1147
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 6: your your hybrid, your viper or some people call it.

1148
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 6: So there are options. There are key Messador, I know

1149
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 6: that's another name. I'm not too particular about age right

1150
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 6: now because everybody's coming out of college twenty five years old.

1151
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 5: So at the end of the day, just go. You

1152
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 5: gotta live with it.

1153
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 6: And so those are some types that still be there

1154
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 6: if they want to go defense. But there's a lot

1155
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 6: of good talent in this class.

1156
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 4: One of the things that always happens in this you

1157
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 4: get to the combine and a couple of names, less

1158
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 4: than a handful.

1159
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: Really, these guys test outs like who is that right?

1160
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 4: I mean, they come in they got all these measurables,

1161
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 4: and you get into this draft and even casual fans

1162
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 4: do it.

1163
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: This guy's got all the intangibles.

1164
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 4: He's a leader, works hard, he's smart and does all that,

1165
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 4: but he's got no measurables. I mean, he's too small,

1166
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 4: too short, his arms are too short, he's not fast enough.

1167
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 4: And then there's the other guys that have all the measurables.

1168
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 4: They look the part, but they can't play. But you

1169
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 4: don't know if they can play. There's something about them, right,

1170
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 4: So who is gonna be if there's a short list

1171
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 4: of guys who after this combine this week, we're gonna say,

1172
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 4: I know that guy. Who's gonna be the guy that

1173
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,479
Speaker 4: explodes onto everybody's list.

1174
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 6: This guy been following since January because I attend all

1175
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 6: the All Star Games and I saw him at four

1176
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 6: of them. So it's Chris Hilton out of LSU. It

1177
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 6: was fascinating because we get to the Hula Bowl and

1178
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 6: he's out there with no equipment because LSU shipped to

1179
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 6: his equipment to the American Bowl, which is the following

1180
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 6: week in the same state. Hula Buls played practiced in

1181
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 6: Daytona Beach. The American Bowl is going to be in Orlando.

1182
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 6: So he's out there at the Hula no equipment. But

1183
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 6: so they had like eleven other guys that had the

1184
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 6: equipment issues, so he's they had to create a period

1185
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 6: for these guys to get some working.

1186
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 5: But his speed and explosiveness was evident. So I talked

1187
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 5: to him.

1188
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 6: I was like, hey man, you know he's like, listen, bro,

1189
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 6: I'm playing in all these All Star Games because my

1190
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 6: tape at LSU I don't have the level of productivity

1191
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 6: that warrants me only playing in one, so I got

1192
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 6: to go out here and play in all of them.

1193
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 6: So I was like, I love that attitude. So I

1194
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 6: see him the following week at the American Bowl, where

1195
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 6: is equipment and he has he has a great week.

1196
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 6: Then he goes to the East West Shrine Bowl and

1197
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,959
Speaker 6: has a stellar week there. Now because of his performance there,

1198
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 6: he got the Combine invite, and then he goes to

1199
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 6: the Senior Bowl and balls out there. So you talk

1200
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 6: about someone that wants it, and he could fly. So

1201
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 6: he's gonna run into four threes and so that's gonna

1202
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 6: help his case out. The fact that he's gonna I know,

1203
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 6: he's gonna participate in all the drills, that's gonna help

1204
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 6: his case out. And he has this story of playing

1205
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 6: in all four All Star Games on the circuit that

1206
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 6: no one has ever done. That's gonna help his case,

1207
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 6: and I think that's gonna be big for him. Brennan

1208
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 6: Thompson UH the wide receiver from Mississippi State. He's built

1209
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 6: like Cavante Turpin, so he's a light guy, but with

1210
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 6: that lack of girth and density, he could fly too.

1211
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 6: He's probably gonna run the four two's, and we know

1212
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 6: everyone wants to. As much as we clown the forty

1213
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 6: yard dash, we can't stop watching the forty yards because

1214
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 6: everybody wants to know who's fast. And so those two

1215
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 6: guys are gonna fly. And I also just to I

1216
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 6: know it's not a position of need for Buffalo, but

1217
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 6: Tailing Green is is. I mean, I'm old school to

1218
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 6: where if I'm watching Tailing Green the quarterback out of Arka,

1219
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 6: so instantly I see Randall Cunningham Bendi athleticism takes two steps,

1220
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 6: he doesn't cover ten yards. Work about Patrino the last

1221
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 6: two seasons, so you know his acumen is where it

1222
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 6: needs to be. He's gonna run the fastest, probably gonna

1223
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 6: run four four and he's gonna throw at all the

1224
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 6: positional drills. So those type of guys are gonna be

1225
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 6: the names. He has a chance to really be the

1226
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 6: QB two in this class. With a great week, I

1227
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 6: know he's gonna test well. And when he throws a well,

1228
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 6: he looks like Kaepernick, he looks like Cunningham, he looks

1229
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 6: like Vince Young. I think all of that will show

1230
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 6: itself out well in Indy U.

1231
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 2: With trends in the league, we've seen teams kind of

1232
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 2: gravitate back more to the running game, and it looks

1233
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 2: like defenses are trying to adjust. And part of that

1234
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 2: is at the second level, where linebackers that go to

1235
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 2: twenty two twenty five just aren't gonna be as successful anymore.

1236
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 2: How much do you anticipate And I understand there are exceptions,

1237
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 2: there are linebackers that play quot unquote bigger than their size,

1238
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 2: But how much do you anticipate teams with the proliferation

1239
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 2: or the return of the run game being a bigger

1240
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 2: part of offenses across the league? How much is weight

1241
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 2: and size and those measurables for inside linebacker prospects gonna matter,

1242
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 2: maybe more than previous years.

1243
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 6: That's a good point because I feel like you could

1244
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 6: run the risk of going for weight, but you still

1245
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 6: may run the same run into the same issue that

1246
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 6: you see with some of these guys that are two

1247
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 6: fifteen to twenty. The mindset has to change. You gotta

1248
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 6: want to tackle, you gotta want to stop the run.

1249
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 6: A lot of these linebackers nowadays a peakable linebackers, they'll

1250
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 6: wait and see. They want to wait and see if

1251
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 6: the guys over for the You gotta go through another

1252
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 6: human being to get to the other human being with

1253
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 6: the ball, and so until you find those guys with

1254
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 6: that mentality, therefore.

1255
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 5: You still may run to the same issue.

1256
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 6: Now weight may be more of a you know where

1257
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 6: they focus to because some teams going to think, well,

1258
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 6: this is why we can't stop the run boat.

1259
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 5: In reality, it has nothing to do with wait.

1260
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 6: Is more so about your effort and want to And

1261
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 6: because a lot of these teams are wanting to throw

1262
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 6: the football, you may see teams to try to load

1263
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 6: up on players from Bama, Georgia. Uh, you know all

1264
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 6: these teams that line up and run the football. That

1265
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 6: by product of that is that your defense will that

1266
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 6: you practice against every day will be you knows, have

1267
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 6: those catalysis to really stop the run. So I can

1268
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 6: see a lot of Georgia backers getting drafted. I see

1269
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 6: some Bama draft backers getting drafted, those to Iowa. So

1270
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 6: those teams that tend to run the football will have

1271
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 6: backers that will find themselves getting drafted because of that reason.

1272
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 4: And one of these The thing about these rosters, particularly

1273
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 4: in the NFL, you build your roster by going out in

1274
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 4: the draft like we're about to do every team's about

1275
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 4: to do, and draft the best players available, and then

1276
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 4: you find out what they can do, and then you

1277
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 4: find out how you can run your offense around them

1278
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 4: and your defense around them. So with this this pendulum

1279
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 4: that seems to be moving even as we're each year

1280
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 4: goes by it. You know, three or four years ago,

1281
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 4: five years ago, it was a run. It was a

1282
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 4: past sixty percent of the time, run forty or even

1283
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 4: more past sixty three percent of the time, run thirty

1284
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 4: seven percent of the time. With this pendulum moving all

1285
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,919
Speaker 4: the time, is that the only way or the best

1286
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 4: way for teams to dictate matchups as these games start

1287
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 4: taking place where this team's built for stopping the run,

1288
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 4: let's spread them out and vice versa.

1289
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 5: I think that's absolutely correct.

1290
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 6: That's why I always apply to philosophy, you have to

1291
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 6: be strong right down your battery center, nose tackle, mike backer,

1292
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 6: free safety, quarterback, running back. If you're a strong right

1293
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 6: down the middle of your football team, you're gonna be good.

1294
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 6: Everything else will change with that swinging pendulum that she

1295
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 6: talked about. But if you're a strong right down the middle,

1296
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 6: that never changes. The close yard to the ball, the

1297
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 6: more important you are. So if teams can focus on

1298
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 6: nailing the center position, nailing that nose tackle, getting a

1299
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 6: good cerebral mike backer that can that's not afraid to

1300
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 6: tackle in, a safety that can exemplify that same cerebralness,

1301
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 6: with the range to cover sideline, the sideline, turn the

1302
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 6: ball over, you're gonna be good. A quarterback doesn't make mistakes,

1303
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 6: a backpack in, you know, handle volume, but also handle

1304
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 6: the situation of knowing when yards are needed and when

1305
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 6: to take you know, with the defense gives them when

1306
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 6: to try to hit that home run. If teams can

1307
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 6: focus on that, that'll keep them consistent no matter what

1308
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 6: swing in the time or what swinging the era we're in,

1309
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 6: because those things don't change. And that's going all the

1310
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 6: way back to eighteen sixty nine when Rutgers in Princeton,

1311
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 6: played down there in Central Jersey and started this game

1312
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 6: we love called football.

1313
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 2: All right, last one I've got for you, Emory and look,

1314
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 2: Bills fans have been receiver obsessed ever since Jefan Digg's

1315
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 2: got traded to Houston, and they feel that the Bills

1316
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 2: are wayward on offensive receiver without a true alpha male

1317
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 2: number one receiver. Now, I'm not saying they're going to

1318
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 2: definitively find one in the draft this year, but just

1319
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 2: from a depth perspective, I mean, you said you do

1320
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 2: a thousand reports, how many receivers would you say you

1321
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 2: have graded in the first three rounds in this year's class?

1322
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 2: Just to kind of give us a framework of what

1323
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 2: kind of depth there might be there through the first

1324
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 2: two days.

1325
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 5: I say five have really you know, high end grades.

1326
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 5: From me.

1327
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:25,560
Speaker 6: Makay Lemon is my number one slot, Jordan Tyson is

1328
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 6: my number one ex I look at my number one

1329
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 6: Z being Carnell Tate, my number one inside receivers, Denzel Boston.

1330
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 6: So those guys are the top of those positions. But

1331
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 6: when you go deeper, you have a Chris Brazil out

1332
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 6: of Tennessee, who could who's six' five and can.

1333
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 5: Fly.

1334
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 6: Right you also have a guy, underrated BUT i have

1335
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 6: a higher grade on In Ted hurst out Of Georgia,

1336
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 6: state plays a lot Like George, pickens has that same

1337
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:53,600
Speaker 6: mentality where it's his ball and nobody else's and he

1338
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 6: just is.

1339
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 5: No he doesn't care who's around. Him he's coming around

1340
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 5: with the, football with the.

1341
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 6: FOOTBALL i also am a big and this is later

1342
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 6: in the, draft maybe day, Two Bryce lance out Of

1343
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 6: North Dakota state six' five six or sixty three two

1344
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 6: hundred and, five pounds Brother Of. Trey lance but you

1345
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 6: talk about someone with the big size to go and

1346
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 6: play above, the rim but has the athleticism to really

1347
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 6: get out of dodge when he has a ball in.

1348
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 5: His hands he could weave in and out of traffic

1349
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 5: Like A NEW.

1350
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 6: York caf so you have a big guy that has

1351
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 6: that frame but also has that agility to weave through.

1352
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 5: A defense those are the type of guys you kind.

1353
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 6: Of want Zachariah branch i TALKED about i have a

1354
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 6: high Grade On brendan thompson because even though he's a

1355
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 6: lighter guy and, can fly you watch him as an.

1356
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 5: OUTSIDE receiver i think he's more OF a z than.

1357
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 6: A slot people will pitchion old him because of, his

1358
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 6: size but he plays like an outside receiver because how

1359
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 6: he can get off the line of scrimmage and he

1360
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 6: tracks the ball. Extremely well so when you have that

1361
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 6: ability to play bigger than your size but also has

1362
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 6: that speed to really stress, the defense it opens up

1363
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 6: everything else for. Your offense so there's a bunch of

1364
01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 6: RECEIVERS that i have good grades on that if you

1365
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 6: don't get one in, round one you'll be more than

1366
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:03,600
Speaker 6: likely fine in.

1367
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 5: Round two, Awesome.

1368
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 2: Stuff emery we appreciate, every time and we appreciate the

1369
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 2: GRIND because I know i don't have time to go

1370
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 2: through a, Thousand reports so thank you for, doing that

1371
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 2: and we'll keep an eye on.

1372
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:16,640
Speaker 3: Your stuff over there at cbssports.

1373
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 1: Dot com we.

1374
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 5: Appreciate it appreciate, You guys thanks for.

1375
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 2: Having me all RIGHT That cbs sports Football Analyst emory hunt.

1376
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 2: Joining us we'll take a break here and be back

1377
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 2: with more as we get you ready FOR The. Nfl

1378
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:29,879
Speaker 2: combine Here On One bills live Presented.

1379
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 3: By collida help.

1380
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 2: All right back here On a monday Edition Of One,

1381
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 2: bills live the last one we'll be doing here At

1382
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 2: One bill's drive because we'll be At the combine the

1383
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 2: rest of.

1384
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 3: The week we head Out for indian right at the

1385
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 3: end of the show.

1386
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 1: Down the ninety and we shoot south.

1387
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,719
Speaker 2: From there once we hit Right, around cleveland we gotta

1388
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 2: go Down through Columbus. And cincinnati we get a Tour

1389
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 2: of ohio basically on, this drive and then it's a

1390
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 2: straight shot through the beginning of the. Nation's Breadbasket. In,

1391
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 2: indiana indiana we actually go we've, never stopped but we

1392
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 2: always go right by, the gym the high school gymnasium

1393
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 2: where they shot The.

1394
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 1: Movie hoosiers.

1395
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 3: It's right off. The Highway. High, school yeah the high

1396
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 3: school where They.

1397
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 2: Shot hoosiers they actually have like a little mini museum

1398
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 2: area there and you can go on the court and

1399
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 2: shoot a.

1400
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 3: Free throw and.

1401
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 1: We went To a butler game that's where they.

1402
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:37,679
Speaker 5: Had them we did.

1403
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 3: Last year that was also In the. Hoosers music butler And.

1404
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:40,959
Speaker 3: The johnnys.

1405
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 2: That's right johnny's got a big victory there last year

1406
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 2: en route To Their Big east conference title.

1407
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 1: Portant, Victory.

1408
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah butler butler had an average team, last YEAR so

1409
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 2: i wasn't a Surprise That mike johnny's emerged victorious to

1410
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 2: number fifteen IN the.

1411
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 3: Ap pole just saying. We're coming let's get back to.

1412
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 2: The, tweetsheet though as we are, asking you what is

1413
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 2: the top Thing the bills should be looking at with

1414
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 2: the draft prospects AT the, Nfl combine joshua, says athleticism

1415
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 2: players that can be used in multiple ways as the.

1416
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 2: Defense transitions now here's A question i have, For, you

1417
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 2: steve regarding this Comment. From, joshua obviously we've just been

1418
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 2: talking about elief. Physical traits athleticism certainly falls under. That

1419
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 2: category and we've Heard the bills over the years talk

1420
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 2: about position flex.

1421
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 3: When you're implementing a new.

1422
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 2: Defensive, system though how much do you want even your

1423
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 2: best athletes that might have position flex vacillating between different

1424
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 2: positions when you're just trying to get guys to line

1425
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 2: up and play well in a.

1426
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 1: New system. It depends it depends on your.

1427
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 4: Coaching staff some SOME coaches i had were, line.

1428
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,680
Speaker 1: X's o's and line and they that's how they.

1429
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 4: Taught you and you know it was it was like

1430
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,639
Speaker 4: you're gonna, learn this and other, coaches right other coaches

1431
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 4: are conceptually we need to listen to the quarterbacks. Doing

1432
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 4: this we need you here at this at. This moment,

1433
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 4: you know this is what. We're doing this is why we're,

1434
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 4: you know we got the big picture that. You know

1435
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 4: so if you can teach them the why of, every defense.

1436
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 5: They'll.

1437
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 4: Be better and you can do that Position FLEX and

1438
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 4: i don't know how this coaching staff IS and i

1439
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 4: don't even.

1440
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 1: Know they know that's what we Have to.

1441
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:35,680
Speaker 4: They've got to have a lot of confidence in their

1442
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 4: ability to get the guys to play. This defense and

1443
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 4: and we know it's going to take.

1444
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 1: A minute.

1445
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 4: It's really going to be interesting to, see though because,

1446
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 4: this is like, You, said brownie this is a defense

1447
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 4: that has been bereft. OF superstars, i Mean, von miller

1448
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 4: you can say they played like a superstar for like, eight,

1449
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 4: Games Right And.

1450
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: Joey boso was a was a good get, by them

1451
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 1: but he. Was okay. Last Year.

1452
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 4: Leonard floyd is the only guy that came in actually

1453
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 4: posted a double digit, sack year and even that was

1454
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 4: his one year and he was here and he.

1455
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,959
Speaker 1: Was gone, YOU know i don't.

1456
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 4: Know that they have game, wreckers now certainly as, a

1457
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 4: group particularly Under The leslie, frasier point of. Mcdermot's crew

1458
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:21,839
Speaker 4: they were a top, five.

1459
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 1: Defense number one in defense in twenty, twenty one.

1460
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 4: So they were they had, some moments and they did

1461
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 4: that when THAT was I think milano's, big year right

1462
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 4: when He Was All.

1463
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 1: Pro pro twenty twenty one or twenty, twenty two four

1464
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 1: Year and hyde were. Into there.

1465
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 4: You know, if so they had some really quality players

1466
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 4: at a couple of. Different levels but when you're changing,

1467
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 4: A defense i don't think given where they were this,

1468
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,640
Speaker 4: last year which is kind, of well they ended up

1469
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 4: being what top.

1470
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:53,560
Speaker 1: Seventh total in totally which, means yards.

1471
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 2: But they were twenty fourth and third down, defense right eighteenth,

1472
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 2: in sacks twelfth in.

1473
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 1: POINTS allowed I don't i don't.

1474
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 4: KNOW that i don't know that YOU and i sitting

1475
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:05,560
Speaker 4: up on our keysters in the press bar's going to

1476
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 4: notice all that much difference in production even when. THEY'RE transitioning,

1477
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 4: i mean it's they're gonna have, good players are gonna be.

1478
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,639
Speaker 4: Well coached if that's, the case they should be at

1479
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 4: least a middle of the. Pack DEFENSE and i don't

1480
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 4: think and even though they were top seven in yards

1481
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:24,440
Speaker 4: given up in, situational football the people Here in buffalo

1482
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 4: were wringing their hands over. Third DOWN so i don't

1483
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 4: think we're gonna notice that much.

1484
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 1: From. This change.

1485
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 4: Production wise it's gonna, look different, of course and you

1486
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 4: have different players playing it and, all that, but, Goodness

1487
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 4: gracious i'm all, for.

1488
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 2: It right I'M just i get a little Nervous, because

1489
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 2: steve we have seen YOU and i have been around

1490
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 2: here long enough where we have seen what happens in

1491
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 2: the first year of a.

1492
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 1: Scheme change it.

1493
01:16:56,840 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 2: Takes time and know that getting eleven guys to play

1494
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 2: as a unit. Takes time, i'm wondering are the merits

1495
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 2: of having a player with position flex less valuable for

1496
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 2: a new scheme that's just trying to get eleven guys

1497
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 2: lined up and playing off one. Another, properly sure you'd

1498
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 2: like to have, that versatility and maybe you do draft

1499
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 2: guys that have, position flex Because if god forbid you

1500
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 2: you have a rash of injuries and you need somebody,

1501
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 2: somewhere else they can.

1502
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 1: Help YOU but i would be more inclined.

1503
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 2: To believe that even if they do draft players with,

1504
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:37,679
Speaker 2: position flex they're gonna give.

1505
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 3: Guys coming in the door one.

1506
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 2: Primary role, do this and do, it well and you're

1507
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 2: gonna rep at a. Thousand times we're not gonna split the

1508
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 2: difference here and have you do four hundred reps over

1509
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 2: here and four hundred reps over there and one hundred

1510
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 2: over here over the course of, the offseason because, to

1511
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 2: me that makes a guy less ready find, a home put,

1512
01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 2: him there and let's go get.

1513
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 3: All that they gonna hit the ground.

1514
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 1: Running on that side of the expectations are. NOT lower i.

1515
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:04,719
Speaker 1: GET it.

1516
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 4: I still think when you're talking, about now certainly in

1517
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 4: free agency they can. Cherry, pick yes they'll get guys

1518
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 4: right in, THE draft i still think you have to

1519
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 4: get the best, player available even if it's like For,

1520
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 4: the bills even if it's, a tackle even if it's a,

1521
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 4: tight end even if it's some other position that you, seem,

1522
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 4: like gosh another one of these guys a, Running back

1523
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 4: you got to get the best player available because if

1524
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 4: he's the best guy, out there particularly if you're picking

1525
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 4: twenty sixth in the, first round if you get the

1526
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 4: best guy, out there no matter what position, he plays

1527
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 4: you're not gonna.

1528
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 1: Regret that you're not gonna. Regret it.

1529
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:00,640
Speaker 4: So he's gonna squeeze a guy off the field that

1530
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 4: otherwise would be starting because.

1531
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 1: He's, better dude. Do it.

1532
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 4: You've got to, DO that, i think and build your

1533
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 4: team around those. Best players so because scheme change, or

1534
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 4: not you gotta get And now, i'm Saying now I'M

1535
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:20,960
Speaker 4: doing gc. The, opposite now you got to get the

1536
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 4: best defensive, player available but defensive. Lineman, available no you

1537
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 4: get the best, player available.

1538
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 1: Best.

1539
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 4: Player available because you're gonna get the, defensive lineman it's

1540
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 4: gonna be end up being, some guy, you know just.

1541
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 1: Some guy and, it's, like well he was.

1542
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 4: The best because we were talking about this in the

1543
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 4: Control And jeff koltenak brought up a. Great point, he,

1544
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 4: goes yeah it's the best, player available but we always

1545
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 4: tend to put the best players that are available towards

1546
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 4: the guys that, we need the places.

1547
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:53,600
Speaker 6: We.

1548
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 4: Need, right, well no if you can't do it, that

1549
01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 4: way it's the, best players the, best player whether he's

1550
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 4: safety or whether he's a, wide receiver whether he's. A

1551
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 4: quarterback for, goodness sake you got to take the. Best

1552
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 4: player that's how you, get better and then, the coaches that's.

1553
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 4: That's job WON an, Nfl franchise your coaches build the

1554
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 4: defensive scheme around the guys they got to. Work with

1555
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 4: if they're good, pass rush that's what they. Lean into

1556
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 4: if they're, good coverage that's what they. Lean into if

1557
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:27,720
Speaker 4: they've got a guy who can cut, play zone that's

1558
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:29,639
Speaker 4: what they. Lean into if they got guys who can't

1559
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 4: do that but can stick, to guys that's what they.

1560
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 4: Lean into and if they don't have anybody can, do

1561
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 4: anything they got to be so unpredictable in their calls

1562
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 4: that the other team's got to take a minute, every,

1563
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 4: snap right and you got to jump through.

1564
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:44,600
Speaker 1: Hoops as a.

1565
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 4: Coaching staff just get the best players and then build it.

1566
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:52,719
Speaker 4: Around Them the bills have been doing that offensively for

1567
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 4: forever ever since They. Got josh they build It. Around

1568
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 4: josh then they get the best. Player available oh is this,

1569
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 4: tight end let's put. Him in now they got, you

1570
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 4: know they're still top, five offense and they're doing it

1571
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 4: with with a wide receiver Room that bill's fans are,

1572
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:12,759
Speaker 4: complaining about and they're still getting.

1573
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 1: It done that's what.

1574
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:16,720
Speaker 4: Coaches do get the most out of the guys you

1575
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 4: got in, the room but get the best guys you

1576
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 4: can no.

1577
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 1: Matter, what yeah so let's. Do that that's my that's

1578
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:23,599
Speaker 1: my philosophy, that today what.

1579
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 2: Is the top Thing the? Bills today what is the

1580
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 2: top Thing the bill should be? Looking at with the

1581
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 2: draft prospects OF the, Nfl combine hannah, went positions and

1582
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 2: she said, wide receiver, defensive, line, linebacker. CORNERBACK safety i

1583
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 2: will say that the vast majority of fans we've been,

1584
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:44,440
Speaker 2: interacting with, you know in this run up to the

1585
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:49,600
Speaker 2: free agency in, the draft almost wholeheartedly feel like the

1586
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 2: majority of needs lie on the defensive side of. The

1587
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 2: ball not only do they believe there are more holes,

1588
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 2: there POSITIONALLY but i think they also believe that side

1589
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 2: of the ball is more in need of an upgrade

1590
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 2: in terms of. Overall TALENT and I think hannah's tweet

1591
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 2: is an indication. Of this she goes wide receiver on

1592
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 2: offense and then four consecutive defensive defensive positional needs, defensive, line, linebacker,

1593
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 2: cornerback safety just rattles them off eighty percent of what

1594
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 2: she thinks they should be looking at the combine involves

1595
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 2: the defensive side of. The ball matt's in the. Same

1596
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 2: boat he just says two words, edge rushers and it

1597
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,719
Speaker 2: is A depl it is a deep edge. Rusher CLASS

1598
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 2: and i saw these numbers. Last week there were eighteen

1599
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 2: teams IN the nfl last year without a double digit

1600
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:41,719
Speaker 2: sack player on. Their roster there are eighteen teams looking

1601
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 2: for an edge rusher in this year's draft if they

1602
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 2: don't get one in. Free agency so those guys are

1603
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 2: going to fly off. The BOARD and i don't know

1604
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 2: if the value is going to match up right For

1605
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 2: the bills at twenty six because the cover is going

1606
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 2: to be picked clean and they may have to wait until.

1607
01:22:57,240 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 2: Round Two so i'd love to see him getting edge

1608
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 2: rusher in, round one but at, TWENTY six i don't

1609
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 2: know who's gonna.

1610
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 1: Be, left yeah we'll have to wait. And see THAT'S

1611
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 1: what i.

1612
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:10,639
Speaker 4: Keep saying if you if you're leaning towards edge rusher

1613
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 4: and you get up and the edge rushers are, all

1614
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:17,719
Speaker 4: gone or the best edge rusher left is the forty

1615
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 4: second best player left on the, draft.

1616
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 1: Board slide back and, pick him or well then something

1617
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:23,680
Speaker 1: else getting the.

1618
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 4: Same, guy, well yeah but you don't need the forty

1619
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 4: second best player left on the board at number.

1620
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 1: Twenty, six no That's why i'm saying you, slide back

1621
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 1: you KNOW what.

1622
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 4: I mean, i mean certainly they're gonna find good players

1623
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 4: further down.

1624
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 1: Than that but you get.

1625
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 4: My point you don't jump through fiery hoops because you

1626
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 4: want a guy who's forty two slots worse than the

1627
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 4: guy you can take right now at a position, that's,

1628
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 4: like oh we don't really, need it but.

1629
01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: Take him i'm, telling, you yeah take the. Best place

1630
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 1: you know you.

1631
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 4: Get, it Yeah so i'm Take the take the, best.

1632
01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 2: Players faith, bomb says anyone who can stop, the Run

1633
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:04,599
Speaker 2: because i'm sick of getting run.

1634
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 3: All over.

1635
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 5: Just for.

1636
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 4: Your faith they were ranked twenty eighth in yards giving

1637
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 4: up rushing per game and thirtieth in yards giving up per.

1638
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:19,680
Speaker 1: Play, rushing yeah yards. Carry Average faith mom is on,

1639
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 1: the money on, the. Money yep, david, says, speed speed and.

1640
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 2: More, speed now speed isn't the, only thing but in

1641
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 2: this league it's an.

1642
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 1: IMPORTANT thing i can get. Behind.

1643
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 4: IT yeah, i mean They Drafted max harriston last year

1644
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 4: because they needed somebody outside, their defense. Some juice their

1645
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:40,600
Speaker 4: secondary looked a little bit sluggish at the end of

1646
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four and they wanted to.

1647
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 2: Fix, that yeah and there's half a dozen guys that

1648
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:48,679
Speaker 2: might run in the four twos.

1649
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 1: This week we're gonna we're gonna have to debate That Because.

1650
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 3: I'm i'm just going on what the gurus.

1651
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 4: Have said i'm not, saying it but the gurus are hyping.

1652
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 4: Their way they might be There Hyping.

1653
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 3: Max harston ran a four two eight.

1654
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 4: Last year they're hyping their one week in the sun

1655
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:05,839
Speaker 4: IN the, nfl landscape and, they're, saying.

1656
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 1: Yeah watch us watch the guys That run.

1657
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 4: FAST's right and we're telling you there's gonna be more

1658
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 4: fast guys AT this nfl combine than we've ever. Seen before,

1659
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 4: come on there's gonna be it's all going to be

1660
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 4: two to three guys maybe running the, four twoers.

1661
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 2: Not, SIX well i said there could. Be six that's what.

1662
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 2: They're saying of course they can sell.

1663
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 1: That exactly there. Could, be well that means The greatest american.

1664
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 3: Art form. There's advertising as you say all, the time.

1665
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 1: That's true it is A great american.

1666
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 4: Art form advertising and. Hype two, i'm, saying okay, two

1667
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,639
Speaker 4: guys that's your over unders two point.

1668
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 1: Five okay and you're taking. The other i'm not hammering,

1669
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:45,560
Speaker 1: the UNDER but i am taking.

1670
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 3: You today gotta take a.

1671
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 2: Break here one final segment where we'll get some final

1672
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 2: thoughts on the tweet sheet from you about what you

1673
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:54,640
Speaker 2: think is the number one Thing the bills should be

1674
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 2: looking at with the draft prospects THAT the nfl combines and.

1675
01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 2: Final tweets next Here On One.

1676
01:25:58,720 --> 01:25:59,560
Speaker 3: Bill's locked.

1677
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:10,639
Speaker 2: Back Here On Plus, Bill's Live, Chris Brown Steve task

1678
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 2: here On. A monday it's our getaway day as we

1679
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 2: are on the road TO the nfl combine after. TODAY'S

1680
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:20,759
Speaker 2: show jt on the tweets, sheet says whoever, we draft

1681
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 2: we'll have to contribute right away and. Be consistent we

1682
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:26,679
Speaker 2: are still in The super. Bowl window we need a star,

1683
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 2: wide receiver plane. And simple we need to take Pressure. Off,

1684
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 2: JOSH personally i would trade the first round pick away

1685
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:34,839
Speaker 2: in another pick for a, star receiver then draft.

1686
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 3: A linebacker, Interesting, APPROACH, yeah jt there there's a lot.

1687
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 1: In, THAT yeah i wouldn't rule.

1688
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 4: It, out yeah all of. That's POSSIBLE i'm i see

1689
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 4: free agent wide receivers in. The room what about one?

1690
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 4: Via trade that's the. One, POSSIBILITY yes i think that

1691
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 4: is on. THE table i think that is on the table.

1692
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 2: Because free agent ones might cost. Too much if you

1693
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 2: can trade, for one there is a greater element of

1694
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 2: cost control there if you find the right one at the,

1695
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 2: right price for.

1696
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 4: The right, lyrik contract the right length of the contract. As, well, yeah,

1697
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 4: Yeah Yeah i'm I'M about I think i would love to,

1698
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 4: do that, but notoriously it's hard to get those. Deals done,

1699
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 4: it is, IT is i don't because one of the

1700
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 4: teams don't want to.

1701
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 3: Get, fleeced, YEAH well i.

1702
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 2: Don't KNOW top, i mean they can't go for a

1703
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:30,560
Speaker 2: top receiver in the market right now because there's not

1704
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 2: to be upwards of twenty five million.

1705
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 1: A year you don't have the. Camp room that, Is

1706
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 1: correct that.

1707
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 4: Is Great travis kelcey was making nineteen Million last year's a.

1708
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 1: Tight end.

1709
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 4: Pickens is gonna. Get that, it's franchised so that's gonna

1710
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 4: be what twenty eight.

1711
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 2: Gotta, Be yeah, So yeah, john says a guy who

1712
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 2: is close to a top ten talent they can trade

1713
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 2: up for because this team needs another all pro and

1714
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 2: they're too expensive at.

1715
01:27:58,120 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 1: Free agency you.

1716
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 2: Do have to find she labor and hopefully you can

1717
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 2: find premium talent at a rookie, contract price but they'll

1718
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 2: probably have to move up from twenty six to. Do

1719
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 2: That so, John's right but what are you willing to

1720
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 2: sacrifice to get up. HIGH enough i don't know if you.

1721
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 2: Want to as, we said it's it's a deep draft

1722
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 2: class in, edge, rusher linebacker, wide receiver. And CORNER so

1723
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 2: i don't know that you have to trade.

1724
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 3: Up as long as you've evaluated the draft.

1725
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 4: Class, Properly right if you pick the, right guy he's

1726
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 4: going to. Be there because it's a hobby for people

1727
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:32,600
Speaker 4: to go back and look at. The draft who was

1728
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:34,559
Speaker 4: available at, what time and nobody knew any of these

1729
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 4: guys were going to be. All pros when they're getting

1730
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 4: in the third round and, fourth round, nobody knew.

1731
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 1: But you know. They're there.

1732
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 4: They're there but sometimes it's an effect of where the

1733
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:47,600
Speaker 4: guy lands as opposed to how good a player. He

1734
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 4: is and if he lands in the right spot and,

1735
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 4: he flourishes right, locker room, right coach the, right message,

1736
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 4: right role. They flourish it's hard to hit all.

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Speaker 2: Those BOXES Our Nfl combine cover begins tomorrow Live. From

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Speaker 2: indianapolis STEVE and i have a jam pack show General

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Speaker 2: Manager brandon bean and Head Coach joe brady back to

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Speaker 2: back and belly to belly to start. The show we'll

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Speaker 2: Also Have charles davis JOINING us it kicks off.

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Speaker 1: Our coverage we'll see you Tomorrow in indian