1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program that gets you 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: inside NRG Stadium. Mark Vandermyer and John Harris for Texans 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: All Access. Great to have you with us. We've been 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: lying from the Houston Methodist Training Center every morning from 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: eight to ten am and will through Tuesday morning along 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: with the rest of the gang from Sports Radio six tenths. 7 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: So it's been great covering training camp. We've got sort 8 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: of a training camp clearinghouse of sorts for you tonight 9 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 1: as tight as Howard, We'll be on with us. Neville 10 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: Hewitt will be on with us, and we got a 11 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: couple of other goodies for later on in the show, 12 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: including but not limited to Camu Gruge Hill an interview 13 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: I've been wanting to play for a while, but I 14 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: just haven't gotten around to it, Johnny, because we've been busy. 15 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: We've been talking. You know, you and I tend to talk, 16 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: you know, we tend to blab away and just the 17 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: time passes, and that's that, right, I mean, that's just 18 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: what we do here. It's so funny because I looked 19 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: at my phone and I was like, man, we didn't 20 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: play the John Reid interview that I did. Ericson interview today. 21 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: I was like, man, there's so much stuff that we're 22 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: sort of leaving I don't want to say, or leaving 23 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: on the cutting room floor, but we just and we 24 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: got two hours in the morning and there's a lot 25 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: we gotta get to. There's an hour at night. There's 26 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: a lot we gotta get you. So, yeah, we're gonna 27 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: end up having a bunch of stuff and there might 28 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: be a show longer way where it's like, you know what, 29 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: no practice today, Hey, you know what, let's fire some 30 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: of these interviews and go back. We'll do that, but 31 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: we'll call it back to the future if you will 32 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: sort of um. But yeah, by the way, speaking back 33 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: to the future, there's a tremendous show Netflix called Movies 34 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: that made us oh hed a documentary. They did a 35 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: documentary on the behind the scenes the Back to the Future, 36 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: and it's awesome. It is gone. It awesome. Wait, do 37 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: they have the Eric Stoltz footage because he was gonna 38 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: play Michael kay Fox's character. Yes, they tell the whole story. 39 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: It's amazing. It's really all I'm watching that tonight tonight. 40 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: Although I'm so good, I'm kind of I think I've 41 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: mentioned this on this program. I'm going through old series. 42 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: First of all, I need to see ted Lasso because 43 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: it's really good. It's a sports show and it's on 44 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: Apple TV and Johnny all these platforms. My gosh, I 45 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: have to subscribe to everything terrible anyway. I want to 46 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 1: see ted Lasso. But I've been watching Dexter. I want 47 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: to watch that Netflix show you just talked about. I've 48 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: got to watch Woodstock nineteen ninety nine, which is on 49 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: HBO Max or something. They're all on different platforms. You 50 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: know what this? They say all the consumer wins, Yes 51 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: and no. There's a lot of great content out there, 52 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: but it's all on different things. And guess what your 53 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: cable bill. And I just recommend Exfinity because you could 54 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: access all of these platforms through Xfinity and I love them. 55 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: And I don't have to change much on my TV 56 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: to do this. It's pretty easy. It's like a one 57 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: remote system, which I absolutely adore because there's nothing worse 58 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: than where's the seventeenth remote that I need to access 59 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: whatever platform this is? Anyway, I'm rambling. Now, let's get 60 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: to this Day two and pants today, give me your 61 00:02:54,320 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: top takeaway Number one takeaway from today, give it to me. Wow, 62 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: that's a great one. I thought the running backs all 63 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: did really good things today, and maybe Mark Ingram because 64 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: he was miked up was boy, Yeah, I thought he 65 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: had some sauces runs. Philip Lindsay always does. There's no 66 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: Rex Burkhead today. I don't know if it was a 67 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: veteran day off, not sure, but he was not in 68 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: there today, And so it was those two Lindsay and 69 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: Ingram and David Johnson. They all had really good runs. 70 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: And in inside period two. A lot of times inside 71 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: period just becomes this mishmash of bodies and running backs 72 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: can't find anything. But both Philip Lindsay and David Johnson 73 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: both had really nice runs in the inside period. So 74 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: that stood out to me. Number twelve stands out to 75 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: me every day. Oh okay, okay. I told the story 76 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: today about twenty seventeen about how I was writing a 77 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: few too many observations that might might have made it 78 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: easier for other teams to kind of look at our 79 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: roster without looking at our roster, like I was giving 80 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: information away in some sense. Yeah, that was when I 81 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: made the decision, Okay, I'm gonna only write so many 82 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: things about the rookies, and when I said him or twelve, 83 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,559 Speaker 1: I'm talking about Nico Collins, and they got me thinking 84 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: about one other rookie. He was turning a lot of heads, 85 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: and that's your guy, the sixth rounder, Roy Lopez. He's 86 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: gaining I'm not I'm trying to figure out the right 87 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: way to say this because it's it's almost kind of 88 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: like cult status. I don't know if that's the right 89 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: way of saying it. But every time that he steps 90 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: up into a drill, you hear the defensive lineman like, yeah, 91 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: let's let's go Roy, what's up? Roy? Showing what's up? Roy? 92 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: Like there is audibly this pickup when he is about 93 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: to have a rep because it's pretty exciting. You mentioned it, 94 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: you said it. I said, Union of Practice is like, hey, 95 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: watch your boy, Roy. We're watching the video board and 96 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: you said, you're like man at wrestling background. I'm like, absolutely, 97 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: But he's so quick. I mean, I know you gotta 98 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: be quick and wrestling like, I get it. But he's quick, 99 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: he's strong. But mother nature kept him at about sixty one, 100 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: and I think that's the best thing ever because he's 101 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: not having to worry about playing tall. He just explodes 102 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: into everybody, and he's always winning the leverage battle. Roy 103 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: Lopez Junior is gonna mess around and find his way 104 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 1: into his defensive line of rotation as a rookie. He 105 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: is really fun to watch. You know what I liked 106 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: about something Whitney said, sea ball, get ball, which I 107 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: haven't heard around here since Wade Phillips came in in 108 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: twenty eleven. Right, yeah, I know Whitney came the next year. 109 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: But the point is this, you simplify things, and maybe 110 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: they were due for that. Maybe they were due for 111 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: simplifying on defense, Like let's just go after the football 112 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: and just get our athletes and do the best we 113 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: possibly can that way. Now, look, you're gonna get caught sometimes. 114 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: These offenses are way too good in this league, which 115 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: makes me harken back to a conversation I once had 116 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: with Butch Davis, who at one point was the defensive 117 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: coordinator for the Dallas Cowboys. Right, but Davis told me, 118 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: you've got to get negative plays in the NFL. You've 119 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: got to be negative if you're a defense, because the 120 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: offenses are too good. You cannot let them play ahead 121 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: of the chains. They're gonna kill you. Now, that was 122 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: twenty years ago, right, Imagine today the differences. The rule 123 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: changes all of it. And that's why being aggressive and 124 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: being able to get some negative plays and everything we've 125 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: been talking about here, the takeaway ratio upped, that is 126 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: absolutely crucial here in twenty twenty one. So let's see 127 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: if they can do it. I like what I'm seeing 128 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: so far on like David Kelly said, if you see 129 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: a good play on defense, if you see a good 130 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: play of defense, it's always the Houston Texans, So it's 131 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: always good. I really would love to see a joint 132 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: practice at this time in my life, but we're not 133 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: going to get to see it. I can't wait for 134 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: Green Bay a week from Saturday night. Yeah, no doubt. 135 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: I want to see these guys grown up against a 136 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: different coach because it's that same thing. You're right, It's like, okay, 137 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: I mean I I checked myself sometimes I go, wait 138 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: a second, he just did that against our guy. Does 139 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: that mean our guy's not very good? Or I mean 140 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: he's really good because our guy's okay. Like That's that's 141 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: the one thing that I keep finding myself saying. But man, 142 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: I have always trusted. I've always trusted my eyes, and 143 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: I know it when I see it, and I remember 144 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: thinking last year in twenty twenty, and I know this 145 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: is gonna sound like after the fact, but I remember 146 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: thinking a twenty twenty and I had not thought this way. 147 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm watching it. I'm like, man, I just I don't know, Man, 148 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know that I liked this 149 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: vibe and it. You know, that was just kind of 150 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: my feeling, like I was just and part of it 151 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: was COVID. A lot of it was COVID. I just 152 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: didn't like the vibe. I was worried about the beginning 153 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: of the season. I didn't Ah, Man, I just didn't 154 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: like it. You know, you know what it was last year. 155 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it's as simple as this. In some ways, 156 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: I know, they couldn't run the football, which is obviously 157 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: terrible for what they wanted to do, especially you know, 158 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: a Bill O'Brien coach team. They want to run the football. 159 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: I don't care who's playing quarterback. They wanted to be 160 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: able to run the football. But on the other side 161 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: of the football, and I can say this at various 162 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: times in Texans history they've done this where they have 163 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: a decent year, a good year, and in the case 164 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen, it was a really good year other 165 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: than the meltdown, which is I know, saying a lot, 166 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: but look, you got to the divisional round, you won 167 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 1: your division, You won ten games, could have won eleven 168 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: if you played your starters in week seventeen and all that, 169 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: and they didn't do enough to improve on the defense 170 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: and side of the ball. They got caught on that 171 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: side of the football, not improving personnel wise, and they 172 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: paid the price because a year older in the NFL, 173 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: you just can't assume you're gonna bring back what you had, 174 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: right in terms of performance. You know, you bring back 175 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: some players, but you can't assume you're gonna bring the 176 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: performance you had. And they weren't excellent on defense in 177 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. Let's be honest. They made some key plays 178 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: at key times. They clinched the division on a day 179 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: against Tampa Bay where they got four picks and all that, 180 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: but you can't assume you're gonna do that. They got 181 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: four picks that one day at Tampa Bay. That's almost 182 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: half of what they got in all of twenty twenty. Right, 183 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: So they also got caught in two thousand and five 184 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: like that, not improving an offense enough. And I know 185 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: I'm going back way deep here, but that was a 186 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,599 Speaker 1: big factor that year. They didn't improve the personnel on 187 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: offense and they paid the price for that. And the 188 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: defense is getting older. So at various times in the 189 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: history of this franchise they've done that. Now everything's completely new, 190 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: and as we talk about which side of the ball 191 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: you're rooting for, in practice, it is tough because both 192 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: sides are in a complete reshuffle reset, and you just 193 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: don't know until you know, until you see it against 194 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: an opponent. But it's fun to watch. I got to admit, 195 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: you know, it's so much fun to watch this camp 196 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: because everything's brand new, So it's kind of fun to 197 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: watch it all take place. It's not like, oh, let's 198 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: get back the divisional round right now. Look, I'd love to, 199 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: but let's get back to the divisional round right now, 200 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: because that's where we left off at the cliffhanger. Uh No, 201 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: this is starting a new series, not just a new season, 202 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: a new series, if you will. We're going Netflix in 203 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 1: these platforms again. Yeah, yeah, I mean absolutely, You're You're 204 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: exactly right, And it's it's an opportunity, and look, we 205 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: you know, we've talked about the Shawn situation, the quarterback situation, 206 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: and we don't know how that's going to resolve itself. 207 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: Sean obviously is not there again today and it made 208 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: national news out on a practice field building up. Yeah, 209 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: he's been in the building, and Tim Kelly, I thought, 210 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: had some very kind words to say about him. But 211 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: you know, you're right, we're looking we're looking at a 212 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: new series in some sense. But the things that I 213 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: see from the guys that that are out there, it 214 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: just it has a different vibe from twenty twenty. Look, 215 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: may not win you know, three games this year, who knows? 216 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: Who knows? I mean, it's just you can. I'll take 217 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: the over. You know, if if I said to you, 218 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: you okay, um, you're gonna win three games or thirteen games. 219 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you know a lot of people I think, oh, 220 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: you gotta wait three. I mean some people don't even 221 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: think're gonna win three. I watched this team and I'm like, 222 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: you know, I there are a lot of vets on 223 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: this team that I watch a practice and I go, 224 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: you know what, that guy's got something in the tank. 225 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: And you don't need all fifty vets or how many 226 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: of your guys were signed. You don't need all fifty 227 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: to come out and half career years. You really don't. 228 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: But man, it would be great if Desmond King, you know, 229 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: had a year like he did a couple about two 230 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: three years ago with the Chargers where he was just 231 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: all over the football. He'd love to see Philip Lindsay 232 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: have a year like he did in eighteen nineteen. If 233 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: you could see those things. Malie Collins leaves that Las 234 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: Vegas stuff way behind, and he plays a lot like 235 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: he did with the Cowboys in twenty nineteen with something 236 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: to prove. Jordan Jenkins is healthy in twenty twenty one, 237 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: and he plays at at a very high level. I've 238 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: watched Jordan Jenkins very closely the last few practices and man, 239 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: I said to him after practice today, I said, you 240 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta slow up on these on these tackles 241 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: and tight ends. Man, you're killing them. I mean, he 242 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: physically is like running dudes over And I'm like, you 243 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: just don't know which of these veterans. Uh? And for that, 244 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: when I see something like Michielle Kapeita, who I respect 245 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: a lot, he did, uh? He did a unit unit 246 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: by unit comparison. Offense defense ranked the one through thirty 247 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: two in the league. And guess where the Texans are 248 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: in both. Well, you know, look, if you haven't observed this, 249 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: if you haven't really studied it, you don't know. And 250 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: maybe this is what they need to be under the 251 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: radar completely, you know, subterranean sneak up on people. Oh, 252 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: by the way, I'm a little upset that you haven't 253 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: commented on the gift that I put out there. Meets 254 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: from on the ball to d We hadn't gotten there yet. 255 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: It's awesome. I would have liked to give the first 256 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: video that I didn't shoot, which would have been fantastic. 257 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: But I'm glad that gift got out there. Uh, it's 258 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: a it's a mark to deep slant completion, a true 259 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: deep slant that John Lopez put out there that he 260 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: wanted to see. Then he got it. He chant us, 261 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: now a couple of things here. You did shoot a video. 262 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: Now Lopez challenge, He said, can deep slant really run 263 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: a deep slant? And can Bandamir throw the ball fifteen yards? Now? 264 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 1: I throw it a little shorter because that's the route 265 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: she ran. And I'm not the first time. I threw 266 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: it with a little with a little velocity on it, right, 267 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: and it kind of went through her hands. Sorry, DP, 268 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: it kind of hit her in the nose. It was 269 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: a Marsha Brady was a true Marsha Brady situation where 270 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: she's holding her face and I thought, oh my gosh, 271 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: I'm Doug didn't Oh no, Doug was who she was 272 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: gonna go to the prom with, yea with her And 273 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: it was one of the brothers, one of the Brady 274 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: boys that hit her in the face with the football. 275 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: But I thought, oh my gosh, I just ruined Deep's career. 276 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: Before a part of that got posted on Twitter, I 277 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: went and looked at the thread the comments underneath. The 278 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: very first person commented and put the gift of Marsha 279 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: Brady holding her nose, and I was like, oh, man, 280 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: if that person only knew what happened the first one. 281 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it was the exact we all started die 282 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: and laughing. In some sense, not Deep because it hurt 283 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: a little bit, but that was the exact thing. On 284 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: the first one, I think it was. I think it 285 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: was Figgy that did that. So that's pretty fun. Yeah, yeah, 286 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: I think you're right, But it was fun being out there. 287 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: We shot our Texans Training Camp Live Special and that's 288 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: gonna air Sunday at eleven on ABC thirteen. Training Camp 289 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: Special with a lot of great footage, miked up mark 290 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: Ingram and boy, we miked up coach Coullie. This week, 291 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: we got a lot of stuff coming your way. We've 292 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: been doing the Question of the Day that content we've 293 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: gotten from this camp up now. Look, we want we 294 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: all want to have a great season. I mean, that's 295 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: the most important thing here. But while we're here, let's 296 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: have some fun, learn about the team, let's entertain everybody. 297 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: And that is what's happening on Houston Texans dot Com 298 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: and the Texans app and our radio shows. We're just 299 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: having a great time. And it's that football feeling that's 300 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: the campaign this year, and we all have the feeling 301 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: and the season is here and it's awesome and it's 302 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: not just the Texans, it's the entire region. But this 303 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: is what we're focused on here on Kirby, which, by 304 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: the name, by the way, is the name of the 305 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: Texans Pup at Texans Pup on Twitter, the Texans Dog. 306 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: I think it's official or maybe it's not yet, but 307 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: that's one of the names that was in the contest, 308 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: and I think it's the best name out there. So 309 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna call Hi. That's I like that. I like 310 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: that a lot. Kirby's that's very cool. I like that. 311 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: Kirby the Texans pup. Yeah, I like you. Well, let's 312 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: go with it. It's I mean, it's better than you know, 313 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: it's better than Main Street or McNee. You know, yeah, exactly. Well, 314 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: we're hey, meet the meet the Texans dog fanning Nah, 315 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: I like Kurby. It's good fan. It's not gonna work 316 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: and uh Texans pop on Twitter. I'm just praying that 317 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: the dog doesn't get more followers than me, because if 318 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: the dog gets more followers than I have, that could 319 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: be bad for my career. Let's get to this now. 320 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: We have Titus Howard and Johnny and I caught up 321 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: with him, asked him all about his offseason, how things 322 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: went there and how things are gonna go this year. 323 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: And in camp, of course, got a lot of chance 324 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: to spend time with my wife and my daughter and 325 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: watch her. You know, she's she's growing and she's learning 326 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: how to walk, learning how to talk. Um, you know, 327 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: it's it's been a very home and experience because you know, 328 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: you know a lot of guys don't get a chance 329 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: to do that. So I'm an experiencing that, getting a 330 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: chance to watch, like to be there to raise my 331 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: daughter and stuff like that. And also I've been working 332 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: out and you know, I getting my body into bis shape. 333 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: So I think this off season was very good for 334 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: me because for one thing out, I ended off season 335 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: pretty healthy, so it was pretty good. Well, we were 336 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: talking to Max about this and rookies last year had 337 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: a tough time. But for you guys going into year two, 338 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: you didn't have that full off season, the first full 339 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: off season going into an NFL year, and now you 340 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: finally get one. So that's got to be really beneficial 341 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: after living through what you did last year. Right, Yeah, 342 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: it was our first really real off season because we 343 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: really didn't have an off season last year. Everything was 344 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: shut down. You can't work out, you can do nothing 345 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: to have you prepared for the season. And it was 346 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: pretty hard for me because I had I would just 347 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: come out of surgery and then that's when COVID hit 348 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: and I really didn't have a chance to rehab the 349 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: way I was supposed to. And this year, man, I decided, 350 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: you know, to take advantage of having a full off 351 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: season and attack it hard. You mentioned, I mentioned earlier 352 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: your father. How's fatherhood changed you? How's it changed you 353 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: as a player? How's it changed you? Just as a man? Um? 354 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: I I say as a man? First, Um I was 355 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: I was warning a son. But then I end up 356 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: having a daughter, And um I think by having a daughter, 357 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: you know, it just changed everything about me. Made me 358 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: appreciate not that I didn't appreciate women more, It just 359 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: made me, you know, tune in too, like the things 360 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: that you know, women you know need, and how to 361 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: respect more women more and you know, respect women's decision 362 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: and how they go about their allies. And it made me, 363 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: you know, just want to be a better person, want 364 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: to go harder for my daughter, and uh just do 365 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: everything and provide everything for her that I wasn't you know, 366 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: didn't get when I was growing up. And I think 367 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,239 Speaker 1: by doing those things and and and making me a 368 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: better person off the field, is only gonna make me 369 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: a better person on the field. Typis Howard with us. 370 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: What's it like working for James Camping? Now? Yeah, coach 371 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: Camping he's pretty cool, good, pretty cool dude. He's um, 372 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: you know, he's very you know critique. UM, he's very funny. 373 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: He know, he likes to have he liked the last 374 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: and have a jokes, and you know, he liked to 375 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: be very involved with the players. And it's one of 376 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: the good things about him. I feel like, you know, 377 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: he's gonna make me a better player if I just 378 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: listened to him. And you know, I think that so 379 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: far our relationship has you know, started off pretty good, 380 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to working with him more throughout 381 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: this season to you know, help me you become a 382 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: better player. Titnis. I wrote this the other day writing 383 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: about the offensive line, and I said kind of the 384 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: five keys to the season, as I kind of went 385 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: through everything, and I didn't put him in your order, 386 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 1: but one of them I put was that Titus Howard 387 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: takes that step you become that guy. Not that in 388 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: the first two years you were you know, you were 389 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: garbage or anything like that, but you take that step. 390 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 1: You get into that echelon where guys get to their 391 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: third year. And I remember we've talked about this before, 392 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: Mark and I have Dwayne Brown and his third year 393 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: took that took that step. What's the key for you 394 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: to take that step to get beyond where you are 395 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: now and really get to a point where you're on 396 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: the field and you're like, you know what, this guy 397 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: is gonna sniff the quarterback, He's not even gonna get close. 398 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna blow up in this hole. And you have 399 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: the confidence you can do it against anybody. And I 400 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: know you're confident, dude, but going out there and doing it. 401 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 1: What's the key to making me look right saying that 402 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: you take that step? I think the main thing would 403 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: be consistency. Just being consistent. Man. Uh you know I 404 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: had games where I've I've dominated top rushers all game, 405 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: but then I have a fall off, you know the 406 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: next We're not say it's anything that cost it, but 407 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: I just think that when it like this year, my 408 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: biggest goal is to be consistent every play, every down, 409 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: every game. I want to be highly respected by my teammates, 410 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: by more more respected by guys running the NFL when 411 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: they see they had to go against me. Didn't know 412 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: that all right, man, it's you know, I gotta I 413 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: gotta bring my my stuff this week because I got 414 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: tightest and I think that's that's that's the main thing 415 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: for me. I want to I want to just be 416 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: more consistent with my game so it promotes the best 417 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: you know possible, at least for the team. What do 418 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: you think of three preseason games and seventeen regular season games. 419 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: I like it less preseason, more regular season games. It 420 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: give us a better chance, you know, to it's more 421 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: games for us to win, so we can, you know, 422 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: make a chance to make a run of the playoffs 423 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: in the super Bowl. And I think, uh, with seventeen games, 424 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: you got a lot of time to you know, put 425 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: on put out some good film, learn a lot more 426 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: about the guys you're playing with. Um, so if the 427 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: season doesn't go the way it's playing, you got a 428 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: lot of experience, you know from seventeen games. You know, 429 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: it's only one more game than sixteen, but that one 430 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: game it's one hundred sixty two hundred snaps, So that's 431 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: more snaps you get on the field. So I'm looking 432 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: forward to it. And I'm you know, I've never played 433 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: seventeen games because in college, you know, I'm gonna play 434 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: teen games. And if you didn't play, to the player, 435 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: you didn't play in the playoffs he was over with. 436 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to seeing how, you know, how 437 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: it does with all of our got how with all 438 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: of our bodies. Who's the toughest guy you faced last year? 439 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: To be completely honest, um, I probably think it's probably 440 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: one A, one B, probably the toughest, probably the best 441 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: guys I win against. Probably Miles Garrett and Clil Man. Yeah. Oh, 442 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: I always forget about Kalil mack yep, I always forget 443 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: about Clil Mac. He's he strikes me as a guy 444 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: that when you talk about consistency, it feels like you 445 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: got to be consistent within the play too, because you 446 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: can't just make the first move. He's gonna counter with 447 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: something every time, every single time. So it's like you 448 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 1: stop something, he's coming back with something else. You gotta 449 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: be like bang bang, Like you gotta be on your 450 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: p's and q's for planing A, B and C when 451 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: you face him. Yeah. Because as far as athletic ability, 452 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett win, it's that. But when it comes to 453 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: just pure strength and stuff like that and animal instinct, yeah, 454 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: clil Mass you know he got that. But I think 455 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: he's the one A one B with that. Those two 456 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: guys are pretty good. Titus, thanks so much for joining us. 457 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Yes, sir, I think you'll there's Titus Howard. 458 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: We visited with him on training camp eve actually, and 459 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: Titus the last first round draft choice of the Houston 460 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: Texans in twenty nineteen, and that twenty nineteen draft feels 461 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: like a thousand years ago because you had no first 462 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: rounder in twenty twenty or twenty twenty one. You will 463 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: next year. We'll see how it all goes. But obviously 464 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: everyone's following his progress very closely, along with the second 465 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: round pick from that year, Max Sharping, who we've heard 466 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: from a couple of times already during Texans Radio. During 467 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: this twenty twenty one training camp, Neville Hewitt led the 468 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: Jets and tackles last year. He is coming up. Interesting guy. 469 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: He's next here on Texans Radio, rolling on here on 470 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: Texans All Access. Great to have you with us, Mark vandermeron, 471 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 1: John Harris with you tonight, and we'll be with you 472 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: tomorrow morning eight to ten a m as Our Sports 473 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: Radio six ten morning training camp shows continued through Tuesday. 474 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 1: Nikas SiO joins us Friday. More from the General tomorrow, 475 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: among other things and ty O Claire. It's Antony all right. 476 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: He's from Quebec and he's a really interesting guy. You 477 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: gotta hear about him playing tight end for this team, 478 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,959 Speaker 1: but right now one of the linebackers. He led the 479 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: Jets and tackles last year. Neville Hewitt in the mix 480 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 1: in that Lovey Smith four three playing backer and Johnny 481 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: and I caught up with him on training camp eve 482 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: and talked about how the adjustment was coming here to Houston. 483 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I love it so far. I mean it's hot. 484 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: It's hotter than the New York New Jersey for sure. 485 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: But I've played in Miami before as well as though 486 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: right you did, but it feels a little hotter here. Yeah, 487 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: I feel a little warmer. Conditioning tests a little bit, uh, 488 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: sweltering for this guy looks too bad. Yeah, I mean 489 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: it probably wasn't It probably wasn't bad for you because 490 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: some of the guys when you say, like you say 491 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: conditioning test to me, I panicked for like weeks conditioning 492 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: test for you? Piece cake? It was? It was. I 493 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: want to say that, I would not say it was 494 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: a piece of cake, which you got to about that 495 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: third or fourth win. Yeah, it became the two minute 496 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: drill with a no huddle offense. People don't know that, Nevill. 497 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: You you've been on a field in the two minute 498 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: drill and people seen on TV, they don't realize how 499 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: taxing that is. How tough is it to be out 500 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: there two minute drill and teams trying to go down 501 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: the field on you and you're just trying to get 502 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: You're trying to get the call to the huddle, trying 503 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: to get the call to everybody. It makes you in 504 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: your right spot. How exhausting is that to be in 505 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: a two minute drill? I guess a really good quarterback 506 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: in the stage. It's one you got to be in 507 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: great shape, and then you have to be mentally tough 508 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: because you're gonna be cramping, all kinds of stuff gonna 509 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: be going on, and you gotta make the play. Yeah, 510 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: you gotta make the play. Cunch time, Novill talk about 511 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: the linebacking core here, the crew that you have, guys 512 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: have because I mean, you come in after leading your 513 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: team in tackles. You had one hundred and thirty something 514 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: tackles you had to pick, you had a couple of sacks. 515 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: You had a really good year for the Jets last 516 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: year started all sixteen games. You had a lot of 517 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: guys who can play, and it's kind of like musical chairs, 518 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: not a lot of spots here. So how's it going 519 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: so far? And what about that competition among the linebackers. 520 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: I think it's cool. It's gonna it's gonna make everybody better. Um, 521 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: that's one thing I've seen because when I was in 522 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: New Jersey, well in New York with a you know, 523 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: we had uh, several guys like Mosley and at one 524 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: point Darren Lee was there, um, several guys, and so 525 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: here it's you know, we got Kirk m Pierre, all 526 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: these guys you know that come from other places that 527 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: played pretty well, you know, and it's an older group, 528 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: so you know, it's going to be more on us to, 529 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: you know, to lead the way a little bit because 530 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: we're older, experienced with veterans. So I think it's a 531 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: great group, great group of guys. I didn't realize this completely. 532 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,239 Speaker 1: I knew, like you said, I knew there were some 533 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: new guys in a linebacking corps. What I didn't realize 534 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: was that we only have one, as you would say, 535 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: stacker off the ball linebacker coming back from last year, 536 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: just one just Zach Cuttingham coming back. So, like you said, 537 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: not only are you knew this situation, but everybody's new. 538 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: I mean literally everybody's new in that situation. But it 539 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: also creates opportunity though too. Yes, I mean no man 540 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: is bigger than his opportunity, you know. And it's a 541 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: great opportunity for everybody in the room, for people that 542 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to see you play. Whether you 543 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: know people than the fourth three defense, they know Mike 544 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: Sam Will what you play, all that kind of stuff. 545 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: Leave that aside when they watch you play on the field. 546 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: What do they see? What do you give people? What 547 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: are they What are the Texans fans gonna love about 548 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: watching Devil Huitt play. I believe I earned everybody's respect 549 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: and due time. I go one hundred miles four And 550 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: I know smash Mouth football. I grew up watching smash 551 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: Mouth Monday night. You know NFC football. I grew up 552 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: in Maryland. So that's what I know. I know was 553 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: go hard and you know, fly around to the ball 554 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: and hit folks, and that's what you want your linebackers. 555 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: And what about Lovey Smith, what's it like working for 556 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: him so far? It's awesome. I mean, it's cool. Is 557 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: it's um? His system is a four three defense. You know, 558 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: guys get to make a lot of plays in this defense. 559 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: I mean, once you understand what you're supposed to do 560 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: and where you're supposed to be, your opportunity is there. 561 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,479 Speaker 1: That's the That's the one thing I've seen in Ota 562 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: since i've been here, is you'll have an opportunity to 563 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: make plays. You got to know what you're doing though, 564 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 1: and a lot of different locker rooms over the years, 565 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: and there's always a lot of talking before pads go on. 566 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: A lot of guys talking. Is this something like that? 567 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: Is it kind of like that in the NFL too, 568 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: where there are guys talking about, oh man, we're talking 569 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: at the pads on wait till these guys see what 570 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: I can do in the pad? Is it that? Or 571 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: is that more kind of a high school college thing 572 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: where people are talking about what they're gonna do before 573 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: the pads go on, and then they go out there 574 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: and they kind of a little bit meaker than you think. 575 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: I think. I think everybody is different. Just depends on 576 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: the situation then, um, but I know most guys went 577 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: after you putting in that work all year and it's 578 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: it's time to go. You know, everybody knew around July 579 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: and the July begin in August. Your mind gotta be right. 580 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: You gotta have your mind right, and you gotta be 581 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: itching to get out there and compete and get better 582 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: every single day. Are they a bunch offensive guys in 583 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: there talking trash about how more physical they are than you? Nah? 584 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: I mean I haven't ran into them yet, but yeah, 585 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: what's it? What's it like when you're with one AFC 586 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: East rival going to the other Miami and then the Jets, 587 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: because those guys are bitter, bitter rivals as you. Well though, 588 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: I mean it's kind of cool because once you with 589 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: one team and then you know they don't bring you back, 590 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: you go to the next team, You're like, well, I 591 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: can't wait to play them. So, I mean that was cool. 592 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: And then I kind of played against everybody in the 593 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: division for through six years. Yeah, so I had a good, 594 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: good idea and a good field for whatever I was going. Again, 595 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: I would imagine general manager Nickossarry had a chance to 596 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: see you play a number of times over the years. 597 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: Times you're ready for a little either or it's very 598 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: easy air B option. We're kind of interesting answers on 599 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: some of these. All right, first one, football is over. 600 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: You gotta pick a new professional sport. Do you want 601 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: to be either a Premier League soccer star or a 602 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball star Premier Soccer league? Okay, all right, 603 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: that's been the one most people are COMMA, So I've 604 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: been a little surprise future occupation either coach or GM 605 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: M GM kind of like the GM rule. Yeah, nobody 606 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: wants to be a coach because the coaches work forever. 607 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: They don't go home exactly. They're here all day exactly. 608 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: They are here all day and sometimes all night. H 609 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: Jordan's Space Jam or Lebron Space Jam. I don't think 610 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: it's fair if I say, you say what you want. 611 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: I haven't seen the Lebron Okay scale one to ten grade, 612 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: the Michael Jordan's Space Jam ten okay? Good? Okay? Uh? 613 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: Roller coasters or mini golf, mini golf, Instagram or TikTok. 614 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: I just got into TikTok, and I think Instagram. I'm 615 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: gonna go with Instagram, but TikTok is very interesting. Really? Yeah, 616 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: are you on TikTok? I'm not on? Its addicting, Yeah, 617 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: why why got the reels on Instagram? They are they 618 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: are addicting. I mean that's crazy. I don't know, like 619 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: Jay Z or Kanye. You're gonna win an Olympic gold 620 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: medal either swimming or gymnastics. That's all that. Okay, you 621 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: went to a great college. You went to Marshall. Right, 622 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: you cannot go to Marshall anymore. You're in high school 623 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: and you got two options. You're gonna go to either 624 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: USC or Alabama Gamecocks or Trojans. Oh, good question, Southern 625 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: California USC, tro great question, Trojans. I like it. Wow, 626 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: you're the first guy to pick USC. Yeah, and you're 627 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: the first guy to ask which USC. Also, that was 628 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: watching Reggie Bush. Oh they yes, see the Pete Carroll 629 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: trojan See, you're right. You talked about that mark all day. 630 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: If I had said Pete Carroll Trojans, that might have 631 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: got a little bit more. That's right, grown up with 632 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: Reggie Bush. So Marshall, what was it like going there? 633 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: Because I've been there and you can't get there from anywhere. 634 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: So I went to Georgia Military College first for two 635 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: years and then I transferred to Marshall. It was a cool, 636 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: it was a cool experience. I mean going from a 637 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: junior college where you had curfew every night. Yeah, um, 638 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: and then going to Marshall. I loved it. I had. 639 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: I mean, anything was gonna feel like a great time college. 640 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: I mean, holy cow. I mean you could stay out 641 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: past midnight. I mean that's probably didn't matter at that point. 642 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: In Huntington, West Virginia. It doesn't matter. Well maybe on 643 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: a college campus though, it's a good time. Yeah, it's 644 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: small a town, nothing must to do, but yeah, you 645 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: can make fun of anything. Absolutely well. It's great to 646 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: have you on the team. Thanks a lot for me 647 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: with us. There's new linebacker Neville Hewitt. Hard not to 648 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: notice out there on the field where number forty three. 649 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: You'll see him in the preseason game a week from 650 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: Saturday against the Green Bay Packers. All right, up, next, 651 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: couple of interviews that I have not gotten to yet 652 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: that I've really wanted to, including COMMU Gruge Hill. Interesting 653 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: linebacker board. We're staying with the linebacker theme. That's next 654 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: here on Texans Radio. It's Texans Radio. If you haven't 655 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: been to the app, go to the app. You got 656 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: to check it out. All the great content is there 657 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: from camp, all the behind the scenes stuff we've got 658 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: going on, the question of the day, We've got Mike Dobs, 659 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: we have articles, we have everything you need to get 660 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: to know this football team, because with fifty two players, 661 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: you've got some homework to do now. The preseason opener 662 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: will be really helpful. That'll be against the Green Bay 663 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: Packers a week from Saturday night, lambeau Field Live on 664 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: ABC thirteen, Live on Sports Radio sixteen The Bull one 665 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: hundred point three FM, all over the lone Star State 666 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: and beyond TV radio. We've got your covered. It's gonna 667 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: be great to see this team out there for the 668 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 1: first time doing their thing against a good team Green 669 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: Bay thirteen and three each of the last two years 670 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: and exit in the NFC Championship Game each of the 671 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: last two years. So we'll see what Matt Lafleur, former 672 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: Texans assistant, has up his sleeve. Now Comu Gruge Hill, 673 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 1: We'll see what he has up his sleeve. Former Miami Dolphin. 674 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: Texans will play the Dolphins in South Florida this year. 675 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 1: He's on this squad trying to make it as a linebacker. 676 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: And I've talked to him after practice and I thought 677 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: maybe it's not much different heat wise anyway between here 678 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: and South Florida. It's actually a blessing to be out here. 679 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: I'm loving the heat because I got that advantage last year. 680 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean it's hide out here though. How's 681 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: the scheme for you? This Lovey Smith for three? I 682 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: love it, man, I'm not even lying. I think this is, 683 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: you know, the best scheme to This scheme fits me perfectly. 684 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: Um allows me to play a lot a lot of 685 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: guys to just go out and do their thing and 686 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: play loose and play aggressive. So I'm loving it so far. 687 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: So I get a nice dive for a pass breakup 688 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: in this practice. What's that dimension like for you? Covering 689 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: guys and trying to make those plays? You know, that's 690 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: where I really um, you know, holding my head high 691 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: and you know, I feel confident in the past game 692 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: and that's something I really try and perfect and be 693 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: the best at. So I'm just working throughout every day, 694 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 1: working with coach love you, working with Miles m He's 695 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: trying to get better. It's the satisfaction that I'm playing 696 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: linebacker though, to hit somebody bring them down. I think 697 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: the game is a little different now, you know, we 698 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: don't have those two hundred and fifty sixty pound linebackers. 699 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: You know, we got guys that can actually you know, 700 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: we run around and we're flying around, um, you know, 701 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,919 Speaker 1: getting interceptions, getting sacks, getting all this kind of stuff. 702 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 1: So but yeah, I mean, nothing's gonna beat the feeling 703 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: of laying someone out all right, Eastern Illinois, so this 704 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: is a hotbed for pro football. You're obviously well aware 705 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: of that. What drew you to that school? It was 706 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: actually my only offer. Um, I didn't start really playing. 707 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: My only year of saying football was my senior year 708 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 1: high school. And he's my only offer. My mom made 709 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: me go. So yeah, the rest is history. Was it 710 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: a bit of a culture shock coming from Hawaii to 711 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: go to Eastern Illinois? Absolutely? I mean I never I 712 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: never left Hawaii in my entire life. And then I 713 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: didn't even have a visit to eat Illinois. I just 714 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: got dropped off and I was ready for camps. So um, yeah, 715 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 1: the first six months were different. Coach of shock. Um, 716 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: you know, middle of the corn fields and all that 717 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. So it was crazy. What do people 718 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: not know about what it's like to live in Hawaii? 719 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: Everyone assumes it's just a beach paradise, but it's a 720 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: city with Honolulu and then you have the other areas 721 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: and everything. What kid you tell us about that. I 722 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: like to joke around that Hawaiians are like rednecks really 723 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: because you know, we don't we don't need much, you know. 724 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: We we got the beach, we got our trucks, we 725 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: got you know. I never even wear a shirt or 726 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 1: shoes back home. Um, and you know, Hawaii is just 727 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: a very prideful place. Everyone's really close, very family orientated. 728 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: And yeah, all right, so how often do you get 729 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: back if I'm not here? I'm there, that's for sure. 730 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: Which city you played in? That the best place to 731 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 1: live other than here, of course, but the best place 732 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: to live in your career. I love you. I'm not 733 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 1: I'm literally not even just saying this just for like 734 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: the podcast or anything. I truthfully love it here. I 735 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: love Texas. And I even told one of my what 736 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,399 Speaker 1: we told my agent. I was like, if I ever 737 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 1: have a chance to play in Texas, let's take it. 738 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: So I'm loving it all right, thanks a lot for 739 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: joining us, A good love, Thank you, comu Gruge Hill. 740 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: Now he played for the Dolphins, so a little bit 741 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,760 Speaker 1: of a Florida guy right there. But Vernon Hargraves definitely 742 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: is a Florida guy. His dad coached at the University 743 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,479 Speaker 1: of Miami, coached linebackers, had Jonathan Vilma and those guys. 744 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,720 Speaker 1: DJ Williams, the late Chris Campbell had a good squad, 745 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: Dan Morgan Man. His dad coached a lot of great players. 746 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 1: And we played this on the morning show. But it's 747 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: worth it two minutes with a Texan to hear it 748 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 1: again with Vernon Hargraves, who definitely has been around here 749 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: for a while. Feels like he's a salty veteran of 750 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: this Houston Texans organization, but it really hasn't been that long. 751 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 1: Got here in twenty nineteen. So Vernon hard Graves. We 752 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 1: caught up with him after practice and he talked about 753 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: what's different about this season. I feel a lot more 754 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,359 Speaker 1: comfortable year six for me, I feel feel like I've 755 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: been here before, you know, still still getting comfortable, still 756 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: just trying to make plays, but I feel a lot 757 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: more experience. I feel like a veteran. All right, So 758 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:20,919 Speaker 1: I just told you I used to be the voice 759 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 1: of the Hurricanes. You're a Gator, So how did that 760 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: work out? How did you arrive at Florida? Well, let 761 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: me let me tell you this. So they fired my 762 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 1: dad and I was young when they did, right, So 763 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: that stuck with me. Oh they fired my dad. They 764 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: didn't want my dad. You know, that kind of stuck 765 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: with me. So as a kid, I was like, oh, 766 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: I'm not going to Miami. That stuck in my head. 767 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: And you know when I got to when I got 768 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: older and when I got to school and I took 769 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,399 Speaker 1: my visits, I actually went back and it was the same. 770 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 1: It was the same facility, it was the same thing. 771 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: I still remembered everything, so what's up every day? So 772 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: you know, that's kind of what it was. I kind 773 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: of just didn't want to go back there, you know, 774 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: being there done that type of thing sort of, and uh, 775 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: you know, Florida had a good coach was the reason 776 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,280 Speaker 1: why I went. And it was a real easy decision 777 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 1: for me, though it wasn't. I was a few years 778 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: removed by the time it was time for me to 779 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: make a choice, so it wasn't that our Does your 780 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: dad have interesting stories about the legendary players he's coached? 781 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: He oh man, he got stories for days, stories of days. 782 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: He can talk to you all night about Sean Taylor, Arey, 783 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: Saint Tana, maus Ken Dorsey, I can keep going, you know. 784 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: But uh yeah, he has the stories, all right. So 785 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,919 Speaker 1: the heat in Houston. I do ask some people about 786 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: this who have been to Florida and played in Florida 787 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: versus here. How is that for you? I'm still trying 788 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: to figure that out, but I think I think Houston 789 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: got it. I think Houston is probably the hottest place 790 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 1: I've been. I've been in Miami, Gainesville. You know, I 791 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 1: think Houston got it. Okay, So what is this system 792 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: like for you? How's it different? Uh? You know, because Lovey, 793 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 1: he's been around a long time. You know. It's a 794 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: simple defense, but you know he wants you to execute 795 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 1: it a certain way, you know, so I like to 796 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,879 Speaker 1: call it simply complicated. That's what I've been telling guys. 797 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 1: You know, it's not all too much, but what he 798 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 1: wants you to do. The techniques that we have to 799 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: play have to be played that way for the defensive work. 800 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: So well, you know, it's just stay in your playbook, 801 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: getting those reps in. What is it about the DBS? 802 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: Why are you guys so close as a group. Um, 803 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, but when I first 804 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 1: got here in twenty nineteen, they were like that. When 805 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: I got here, they all hung out off the field. 806 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: They always do stuff off season, hanging out after practice, 807 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: were with each other, meaning rooms were always walking around 808 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,919 Speaker 1: eating together. That's the that's the culture I walked into. 809 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: So I just jumped right in and uh yeah, I 810 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,760 Speaker 1: mean they embraced me like I was one of theirs, 811 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: like I've been here and uh you know, we're just 812 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: keeping that thing roll and we have to be close 813 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 1: because we played the hardest position. Well what about off 814 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: the field here and all these new players here with 815 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: the Texas. Oh yeah, it's tough. It's tough getting to 816 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 1: know everybody, our new coaches, new GA's, new equipment people. 817 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: You know, there's new people everywhere. But you know, it's fun. 818 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,720 Speaker 1: It's fun getting no guys. Everybody's you know, everybody understands 819 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: that everybody's new. So we're taking a slow but we're 820 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: getting to know everybody. And like I said, we're just 821 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: trying to piece it together. All right. You're making plays 822 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: of practice here after a while, with practice where you're 823 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: going against your own team all the time. Do you 824 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: get to those these receivers pretty well in their moves? 825 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,879 Speaker 1: Of course, of course. I mean that's why that's why 826 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: I practice is. Practice is hard because you know who 827 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,359 Speaker 1: you're going against, you know what type of routes they running, 828 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 1: you know off fast they are, and uh, you know 829 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 1: that's why it's practiced stuff. All Right, thanks a lot, 830 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: thank you, I appreciate it. Vernon Hardgray, you know his 831 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: story as a Texans defensive back. We've got four more 832 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 1: interesting stories tomorrow. New guys to this team, well relatively 833 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: with Isaiah Coulter entering year two. But we talked about 834 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: it how those rookies last year really didn't get a 835 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: fair NFL shake without the preseason games, with a shortened 836 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,839 Speaker 1: training camp, with no OTAs so culture in year two, 837 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 1: try to make the most of it. Also, Chris Moore 838 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,760 Speaker 1: will join us, Anthony A. Claire, who we talked about earlier, 839 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: former Canadian football player now in the NFL, never played 840 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:32,959 Speaker 1: in the CFL, just played in high school in college 841 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: football in Canada. And Alex Ericsson a player you want 842 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,720 Speaker 1: to hear more about playing receiver. Hard not to notice 843 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 1: out there. That's gonna be tomorrow morning. Eight to ten 844 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: am plus the General John McClain, Andre Where's going to 845 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 1: stop by? Seth Paine's gonna stop by, So we'll have 846 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,320 Speaker 1: it off for you from the fields at the Houston 847 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: Methodist Training Center. Well that's gonna do it for tonight. 848 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,839 Speaker 1: I want to thank everyone who listened to the program. 849 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,280 Speaker 1: You can listen to this one again on the Texans 850 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,959 Speaker 1: app or if you missed any of it soon enough 851 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: and check out all of the other good content right there. 852 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: Have a great night everyone, and go Texans.