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Speaker 1: flame leaps up. Within months, rivers will flow with blood.

426
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: The undead will roam the earth for a little time.

427
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 1: Totally fabricated. Someone just took the flavor of Nostre Damas

428
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 1: and added maybe a couple of lines from one of

429
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: the quatrains and dumped this out and it was making

430
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 1: the round. I remember seeing the two steel birds and

431
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 1: they didn't have steel See. I think I think the

432
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: steel Birds line is actually taken from another profit that

433
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 1: we're going to speak about a little later. This is

434
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: definitely attributed to Nostradamas at the time, it's completely bunk.

435
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: And that's yeah, that's another thing Nostredamus also, all right,

436
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: so we know that there are some bunk translations. We

437
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: know that there are people who said, yeah, why don't

438
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 1: I just stick a line about New York in here?

439
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: And so what they end on that thinks, and that's

440
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: why we have Nostredamus. This guy writing in uh the

441
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: fifteen hundreds, allegedly according to the Internet, saying stuff like

442
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: New York the eleventh day of the ninth month. And

443
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: again the way any of these were laid out. Okay,

444
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play I'm gonna play Devil's advocate here for

445
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: a moment on the side of someone who perhaps can

446
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: see beyond the veil, for a moment in a fleeting

447
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: glance of something. Imagine that you have no context for

448
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: what New York City looks like or for what a

449
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: city or a building or anything that you're looking at.

450
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: It looks like like, imagine you're getting a glimpse of

451
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: a futuristic city hundreds of years from now, and you

452
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: have no idea what anything is. You don't know what

453
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: the names are, but you see two things that looks

454
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 1: similar to a plane for sure attacking something. I mean,

455
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting to me imagining how I would write

456
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: down on a piece of paper or what I was

457
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: seeing if I could somehow see that and and potentially

458
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: a very cool literary device. I can't pick pick it

459
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: out right now, but I feel like I've seen that

460
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: before in a movie or in like a novel, whether

461
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: someone has had a prophecy and they describe it in

462
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 1: these kind of like, uh, very rudimentary terms, something that

463
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: will happen in the future, which like the Great Turtle

464
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 1: will rise from the sea, and you know things like

465
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: that where it's like maybe it's like a warship or something.

466
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 1: You know, it's like cargo cults then that we've talked

467
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: about before. Yeah, cargo cults. People will call, uh, what

468
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: is It's a term that might be somewhat defraugatory. Cult

469
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: can be h for people who are living in isolated

470
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 1: areas in the Pacific Ocean, isolated islands, and they would

471
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: see cargo dropped and see airplanes for the first time,

472
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: and service members of various wars. There is there was

473
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,959
Speaker 1: within your lifetimes, listener, there there was a active cargo

474
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: cult that worshiped Prince Philip uh and they would build

475
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: towers or radio towers and an attempt to summon these

476
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: things from the sky. Again, well he is kind of dreamy,

477
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: is he. Yeah, but just idea that there's no there's

478
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: not a lot of context for for that group of

479
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: people who have seen something that's beyond their understanding that

480
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: has done something good for them. I thought it's a

481
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: great Yeah. I think that's a great argument. I'm glad

482
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: you make it because we've heard arguments about that in

483
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: biblical text, right. I can't remember if it's I think

484
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: it's Old Testament. Yeah, it's gotta be Old Testament where

485
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: Ezekiel has a vision of what he said learning chariot

486
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: or wheels within wheels, and that description is clearly someone

487
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: trying to be very specific about some but bizarre spectacle

488
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: but not maybe not quite knowing what it is, which

489
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: has led you know, ancient alien people to say that

490
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: it's some sort of visitation extraterrestrial. But that's a story

491
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: for a different day. It is, it is, it is,

492
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: But I just have thrown vi Mona's that's one of

493
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: the coolest things. The the idea of the flying ships

494
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: for an ancient Indian texts, ancient nuclear war hunt. The

495
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: Nazis believed in it. It's also interesting to the way

496
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: you can sort of divide profits up into the into

497
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: two camps. I mean, you have these religious leader profits

498
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: that are communicating with said deities that are in charge

499
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: of whatever faith they represent, and then you have these

500
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: nostre damas soothsayer type profits that are more about looking

501
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: at the big picture. They're not necessarily saying they've got

502
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: a message from God. They're just saying they can see,

503
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: you know, beyond and seeing the future. And they're both

504
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: kind of you know, considered profits, but they have sort

505
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: of have their own little game going on right well.

506
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: And yeah, and in nostri nostradamis as time, it was

507
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: apostasy or denial of religion. Technically it's like this huge crime.

508
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: So it you know, it's it's strange when you think

509
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: about that too, because most of the profits we see

510
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: have or people who believe their profits have some sort

511
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: of spiritual nature. And sometimes it's I'll say it, sometimes

512
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: they believe they have discovered it independently. But that's the

513
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: nicest way to say it. There's another one, since we

514
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: started at nine eleven. Well, yeah, and and since you

515
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: said the Nazis did believe perhaps in the ancient nuclear war? Yes, uh,

516
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: did Nostradamus predict the rise of Hitler and the beginning

517
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: of World War two in the place very near, not

518
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: far from Venus, the two greatest ones of Asia and

519
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: of Africa from the Rhine and Histor they will be

520
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: said to have come cries tears at Malta and the

521
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: Ligurian side Histor. Huh, that sounds pretty close. Yeah, but

522
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think that's what there or

523
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,239
Speaker 1: perhaps Okay, I just have to say it's a it's

524
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: a river, right. Histor is a river, The Rhine is

525
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: a river. They are in Germany, or at least on

526
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: the western side of Germany. The Rhyan is there. And

527
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: then the history, I don't know exactly where. It's the

528
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: Latin name for like the lower stretch of the Danube. Okay, okay,

529
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: so yeah, so that that sounds We're here's just the show, everybody.

530
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: How for these translations can be We've got the original Freendshire,

531
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: which I'm not going to butcher, but then someone else

532
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: translates it. To remember what um, what we just heard

533
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: from Noel earlier? Someone else says, beast wild with hunger

534
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: shall cross the rivers. Most of the fighting shall be

535
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: close by the history. It shall result in the great

536
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: One being dragged in an iron cage while the Germans

537
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: shall be watching over the infant rhyme what vastly? Yeah? Yeah,

538
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: and so what part of that is fabricated? Right? Uh?

539
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: So again, you can read various interpretations of this, especially

540
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: with no stradomics in mind, because there's so many, so

541
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: many translations that are people actually trying to transliterate. I mean,

542
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: the original is so innocuous. It's just it's like in

543
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: a place not far from Venus, like like, how much

544
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: more vague can you be? And then it it gets

545
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: more specific and they will be said to have come

546
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: cries tears at Malta and the Ligurian side. It's just

547
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: so open ended, you know that you can just shoehorn,

548
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: whatever idea you want into that if you choose now,

549
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: is that what you think is happening. I think it's

550
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: what's happening with this other translation that you're talking about.

551
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: And I think, like you say, it's it's if you

552
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: get excited about the idea that maybe this guy really

553
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: did have something, your brain starts to make all these

554
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: leaps and fill in the gaps, and you know, kind

555
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: of like, what is it confirmation bias? Kind of? Yeah,

556
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: this this makes me think about so many other things.

557
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: We've looked at the psychotronics studies in the USSRUH in

558
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: the aftermath of World War Two, the various m k

559
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: ultra type experiments people have tried to conduct with or um.

560
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: Was it stargate with Ingo Swan where people were trying

561
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: to access what they were certain was an extra sensory ability.

562
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: I'm not here to say that that stuff conclusively doesn't exist,

563
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: though it is true that governments have spent a lot

564
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: of money on things that ultimately didn't pan out. Well, yeah,

565
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: and that's why we had to do right, we talked

566
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: about this, but with the reason why the United States

567
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: government had to do research into this, Uh, this this

568
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: subject is because it was being done by the other side.

569
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: And if the other side somehow unlocked psychic powers or

570
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: these you know, ways to see through buildings and perhaps

571
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: even move through them, and we didn't have it. Oh

572
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: we're in trouble if they've got X men and we don't.

573
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, but okay, I while I get that, it's

574
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 1: also somewhat disingenuous. And I know this is a bit

575
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: of a different topic. It's disingenuous, uh, at least on

576
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: the part of some members of the military bureaucracy, because

577
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: clearly it's war is good for the winner's economy, right,

578
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: so it's also a way to rationalize more spending. We'll

579
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: watch out this thing. I mean, remember, we live in

580
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: a country where mere decades ago someone said, what if

581
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: we could make a bomb, it would just turn people gay? Yeah,

582
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: what if? Why don't we just try that and let's

583
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: spend a couple Let's spend a couple of mill on it,

584
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: and just see if that's a real thing. All right,

585
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: So we should mention though. One common misinterpretation about Nostradamis

586
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: is that he created all of his work independently. That

587
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: is not true. He pulled there's pretty convincing evidence that

588
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: he pulled from existing literature of his time, histories, things

589
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: like that. So a lot of his work is referential,

590
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: but not necessarily referring to future events. It's referring to

591
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: or alluding to existing works in his time in the

592
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 1: fifteen hundreds, similar to the way that T. S. Eliot's

593
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: The Waste Land refers so heavily and is so elusive

594
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: in terms of it how it leans on other exists works.

595
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: So some of these prophecies are these translations are more

596
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: amalgamations of other things. He didn't write this all independently,

597
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: and he didn't predict the end of the world the

598
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: Mayan cycle, which itself is kind of based on a

599
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: mistranslation in twelve. Instead, he said his prophecies extend from

600
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 1: now to the year thirties, seven, nineties seven or something

601
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: like that. That is a long time for now, that's

602
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: a while, a really long time from fifteen five. But

603
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: his major astrological source at the time, Richard Rousseau, said

604
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: that forty two might be a date for the end

605
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: of the world. Uh, I don't remember the arcane logic

606
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 1: they used, and three seven nine seven minus fifteen fifty

607
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: five when he published the book is twenty two two.

608
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I was gonna say one, that's

609
00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: probably a better, better year. It's just so funny because

610
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: when you it doesn't matter who you are. I don't

611
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: care how popular you are among any circles. If you

612
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: just throw out a number like that, I don't know,

613
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: well I'll throw I'll throw out a number for you.

614
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: Um well, I can't. I know this is weird because

615
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: I can't tell you much about the person who told

616
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: me this, but I am convinced by this source the

617
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: world is ending for someone or some group of people.

618
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: Like every every day and every year, there are between

619
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: fifty and two hundred apocalyptic groups who believe that this

620
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 1: is it is a big finish. And without without being

621
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: disrespectful or dismissing these people's beliefs, I will say that

622
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: there's something inherently narcissistic and self center to assume that

623
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: a thing that existed for thousands of years is going

624
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: to stop that and you show up just in time,

625
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 1: like civilization itself for right job. I mean, it's there's

626
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: something inherently not selfish but self important about that, and

627
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: so far, the one thing that all apocalyptic groups have

628
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: in common is that they have not accurately predicted the

629
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: end of the world. You know, my favorite end of

630
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: the world um prophecy is what's that? Are you guys

631
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: familiar with the Church of the SubGenius. Yeah, So they

632
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: celebrate this holiday every year in July that called X

633
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: Day and UM. Initially X Day was supposed to be

634
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: the end of the world and was supposed to be

635
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: on July, at which point UM an alien race known

636
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: as the exists or men from Planet X would come

637
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: to Earth and destroy the world and rid the world

638
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: of the quote normals or pinks or Glorps, which are

639
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: the non sub genii that inhabit the planet. But you know,

640
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: as as you know, time time happens, everyone makes mistakes.

641
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: The creators of the Trick of the SubGenius got the

642
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: calendar date wrong and apparently looked at it upside down,

643
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 1: So it's actually going to take place in the year

644
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: eight six sixty one. Who So that gives them plenty

645
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: of padding, you know, their parties up until the new

646
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: end of the world come. I love I love SubGenius

647
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 1: because it takes all the wind out of these kind

648
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: of into the world death conspiracies you know, and just

649
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: sort of like it's a very tongue in cheek and

650
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan. Well yeah, I again, you guys

651
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 1: know that I have a fascination with alternative religious beliefs.

652
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 1: I guess is the most fair way to dance around

653
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: the word cults. But the thing that fascinates me is

654
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 1: that there are so many instances where someone predicts the

655
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: end of the world. And you know, apocalypse or an

656
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: apocalyptic event does not necessarily mean the end of the world.

657
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: We use it that in English today, but what it

658
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: means at heart is the revealing of hidden things. So

659
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: that revelation right the end of the world. It's become

660
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: conflated or synonymous in modern speech, but a lot of

661
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: these groups will talk more in terms of a great

662
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,959
Speaker 1: spiritual revelation and when they are wrong, if the date

663
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: comes and it passes, then there's a wealth of a plethora,

664
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 1: and I am using that word correctly of reasons that

665
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: the thing will have to be adjusted. So kudos to

666
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: the SubGenius Church for moving and giving themselves a little

667
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: bit of a buffer. I hope they make it to

668
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: the eight hundreds eight thousands. Okay, So next is someone

669
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: who might be a deep cut for some listeners. This

670
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: actually might be new to some of you out there,

671
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 1: and we hope you enjoy it. Let's talk about the

672
00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: Nostradamis of the Balkans, as she is sometimes called. Gonna

673
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: have to see her name. Baba Vana, like Baba Yaga,

674
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: the Russian witch of folklore, but Baba Vanga. Born Vangelia

675
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: Pandeva Dimitrova in January nineteen eleven. She was in She

676
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: was born in what was then known as the Ottoman Empire,

677
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 1: and when she was born she was completely normal until

678
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: the age of twelve. Yeah, and allegedly, or at least

679
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: according to stories, she was blinded during a storm that

680
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: occurred when she was only twelve years old. I almost

681
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: wanted to seem blinded by the light. No, that's messed up, ben,

682
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: and don't do that well. Um, but yeah, So she

683
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: was missing for a number of days. At some point

684
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: she had that kind of mystical thing where she's disappeared,

685
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 1: but now she's returned. Her eyes were when she returned

686
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: sealed shut, and her family couldn't afford to get them fixed,

687
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 1: couldn't take her to the doctor or the Yeah, let's

688
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: say the doctor. So she was going to be blind

689
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: for the rest of her life, but yeah, she was

690
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: going to have that sense replaced, at least according to

691
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: her and her supporters. She claimed she began having visions

692
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: during the first few days of her disappearance, and that's

693
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: a super common trope in you know, historical accounts of

694
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: um prophets or sibyls, right, Like, that's a thing, I mean,

695
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: the blind prophet, you know, yes, and mythology and literature

696
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: and also yeah, in history and leaving and not being

697
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: seen for a period of time then returning and then

698
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: this completely changed the new thing. And that goes back

699
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: to Joseph Campbell, right, I was saying when that that

700
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: that period of disappearances when you know, some significant event

701
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: took place and changed the person's perspective wherever. Yeah, I

702
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: would recommend Hero with a Thousand Faces or Heroes Journey

703
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: by Joseph Campbell to learn some more of that. This

704
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 1: happened in real life. She believed that because of her

705
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: visions in her quest, she could predict the future and

706
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: heal people using otherworldly powers, and scientists and government officials,

707
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: not to mention the wealthy, came to visit her for

708
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: advice According to the story, she served as an advisor

709
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: to the Bulgarian Communist Party leaders, who would ask her

710
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: questions to advance their cause. Right in the Great in

711
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: the Great Game of geopolitical intrigue, she was kept under

712
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: surveillance by the secret police, and politicians and businessmen would

713
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: come meet with her. And that I can believe, because

714
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: if your secret police, you want to bug those conversations. Yeah,

715
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: even if, even if what she's telling them is completely untrue,

716
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: just having those individuals in a room speaking, Yeah, we're

717
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: gonna bug that if we're in charge. So let's talk

718
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: about her specific prophecies, right. According to The Independent, she

719
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 1: allegedly predicted the forty four US president would be black.

720
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: Also the last president, which is predictions of who will

721
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: be the last president are distressingly common. Uh And I

722
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: think a lot of them are made up by people

723
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: on the internet. But as well, she is thought to

724
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: have predicted uh nine eleven. And we we have the

725
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: quote from the Guardian here and here's that image that

726
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 1: seemed to crop up and that was attributed to Notre

727
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: damis horror, horror. The American Brethren will fall after being

728
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: attacked by the steel birds, the wolves will be howling

729
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,240
Speaker 1: in a bush and innocent blood will gush. So clearly

730
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,439
Speaker 1: that steel Birds imagery was pilfered from this and kind

731
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: of connected with some nostradamous lines and then you know,

732
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: thrown out there on the internet. Now, one study, uh,

733
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: one one study says that she was accurate. I have

734
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: a hard time believing this. This game from Dr Georgie Lozonov,

735
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: who is director of the Institute of I'm not making

736
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: this up. Suggest ology and parapsychology and Sophia Bulgaria and uh.

737
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 1: He said that I like that word suggest ology, suggests ologies.

738
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: Sounds very subgenious, doesn't it. So there's also here's the thing.

739
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: Though this was a legit place at thirty staff members.

740
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: The Bulgarian government was paying for it. They thought that

741
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: a lot of baba Anga's predictive abilities, especially the stuff

742
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: where she was looking for lost relatives and friends, were

743
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: pretty accurate. However, the issue with this is you can

744
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: find it in the methodology. You know. I'll post this

745
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: online if anybody wants to check it out. But we've

746
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: talked before about parapsychology experiments and how easy it is

747
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: to how easy it is to do something that renders

748
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: the experiment unsound. Um Anyhow, there's also the additional side

749
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: note that many of the people who are close to

750
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: bob Avanga during her life claims she never made prophecies

751
00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: attributed to her on the Internet. She died in nine teen,

752
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: and she left behind several other alleged predictions for the future.

753
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: Vice has a good Vice has a good article on it,

754
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: and we can check in with that maybe towards the

755
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: close of the show. Well, let's move on, because I

756
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: can't wait to see what other people say about Bob

757
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: a Vanka. But we would be remiss if we did

758
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: not talk about another um, another profit or seer that

759
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: you ladies and gentlemen have asked us to check out

760
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: for a while now. Yeah, and it's also getting a

761
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: little bit closer to the present day, which is kind

762
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 1: of cool. So it's somebody that actually has stuff written

763
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: down about them, perhaps even books that are published with

764
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: English that we will be able to understand readily. Right. Oh, Also,

765
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 1: our first English speaker that's correct of this of this run,

766
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: and that goes to Mr Edgar Casey. Casey was born

767
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: in March of eighteen seventy seven and passed away in January.

768
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: He had a pretty interesting alien I guess you could

769
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: say which was the sleeping prophet, because he would go

770
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: into these trances, these kind of like fugue states reveries

771
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: when he was diagnosing illnesses or recounting ancient wisdom. We're

772
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: just making these different predictions that that is fascinating to me,

773
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: and a lot of the I would say pop culture

774
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: references to a lot of things where someone will go

775
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: into a trance and then make a prediction like this.

776
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: I feel like it's especially in film, goes back to

777
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: maybe being influenced by this guy. Also some of the

778
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: theatrics of uh, you know, communicating with spirits and the

779
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: seance or something where you know, the medium would sort

780
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: of rock back and forth and enter into this, uh,

781
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: this trance like state and then be inhabited by the

782
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: spirit of a past loved one, you know. As we know,

783
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: a lot of that was you know, largely theater, but

784
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: definitely was a very impactful presentation for folks of the

785
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: time for sure. And as we said before, this guy

786
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: is very well documented, perhaps the most well documented profit

787
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 1: that we know of, and we even know a lot

788
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: about his history growing up in early life, right, Yeah,

789
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,479
Speaker 1: you can. You can find various different accounts. We'll read

790
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: one from someone who well, we'll read one from Edgar

791
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: Casey on Atlantis, which was which contains several statements about

792
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 1: his beliefs regarding Atlantis, delivered under his trance, edited by

793
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: the director of the Association for Research and Enlightenment, Hugh

794
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: Lynn Casey, a descendant. And we'll also talk about the

795
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: A R E a little bit too. So the thing

796
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: is that, um, he was supposed to be in his

797
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: waking life, pretty good husband's olive father, uh taught Sunday school,

798
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: pretty nice guy, gifted protect professional photographer, but when he

799
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: was in a trance he became a medical diagnostician, a prophet,

800
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: a proponent of biblical lore. So, even as a child

801
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 1: in Kentucky, his parents said that he displayed powers of

802
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: perception that seemed to go beyond the five senses. At

803
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: the age six or seven, he told his parents he

804
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: was able to see and talk to visions, sometimes of

805
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: dead relatives. One of my favorite stories about him. His

806
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: parents said that he probably had no overactive imagination, But

807
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: one of my favorite stories is that apparently he was

808
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: able to learn by some sort of strange osmosis Uh.

809
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: Sleeping with his head on school books, he got a

810
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: photographic memory, which helped him advance rapidly in school. This

811
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: faded uh as he grew older, and he was only

812
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: able to complete complete the seventh grade of formal education. Uh.

813
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: So he started to develop a paralysis of the throat

814
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: muscles in and was in his early twenties. Doctors weren't

815
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: able to find a cause for this condition, so they

816
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: try everything. They tried hypnosis too, and then, in desperation,

817
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: Casey apparently asked one of his friends to help him

818
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 1: achieve the same kind of trance he had used when

819
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: he was sleeping on school books as a kid. And

820
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, he uh did the old

821
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: diagnose thyself physician kind of thing, and he got medicine

822
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 1: and recommended a therapy that restored his voice shored his throat.

823
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: A group of doctors came by and started asking him

824
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: to diagnose their own patients. One thing leads to another,

825
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: really and uh yeah, and he becomes the sleeping profits.

826
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: So when he dies in forty five in Virginia, he

827
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: left well over fourteen thousand documented stenographic records of the

828
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: statements he had given for more than eight different people

829
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: over forty three years. So we got a lot of

830
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: stuff on him. So the Association for Research and Enlightenment

831
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: which we mentioned exists today. It is a nonprofit organization

832
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: founded to facilitate the study of his work. You can

833
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: see their website right now. It's Edgar Casey dot org.

834
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're driving or something, don't don't do

835
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: it while you're driving and see perhaps he has a

836
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: prediction that applies to you, or does he. Because here

837
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: is the thing about Edgar Casey, ladies and gentlemen, he

838
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: because he is so well documented, we also know a

839
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: lot of what he got wrong, not interpretively wrong, but

840
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: factually inaccurate. One example that really sticks out is that

841
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: he said the pilt Down Man was real, the Piltown

842
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: Man being a famous hoax where the jaw of an

843
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 1: orangutang was combined with the cranium of a modern human

844
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: to argue that there was this evidence of human evolution

845
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: in uh in the area of its discovery, which is

846
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: built down in East Sussex. So Edgar Casey, however, said

847
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: that this was evidence of an Atlantean race or a

848
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 1: someone who survived in Atlantis or was from Atlantis UH colonizers,

849
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: specifically who had traveled to Britain, and in nineteen fifty three,

850
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: a little bit after Casey's death, it was exposed as

851
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 1: hopes he read through the Bible entirely each year and

852
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 1: this helped him reconcile his Christian beliefs with the metaphysical

853
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: stuff he said while he was in a trance. He's

854
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 1: often called one of the founders of the New Age movement. However,

855
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: critics say that he UH. Critics say that he cribbed

856
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: some stuff from other authors like Carl Young or Elena

857
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: Blovotsky from the Theosophy movement. I don't know if that's

858
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: necessarily plagiarism, though. If it is a real trance, people

859
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: might just be free associating, you know what I mean.

860
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: We've all been in that area between sleep and wakefulness,

861
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: where sleep paralysis occurs and where thoughts spring unbidden. You

862
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 1: know you're singing a song you love and then realize

863
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: it doesn't exist in the real world and that your

864
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: mind is writing it for you. I'm pretty sure I'm

865
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 1: there right now, man. So most of the weirder beliefs

866
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 1: about Atlantis come from Casey. So when you hear people

867
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: talk about fantastically advanced civilization brought to Ruin by meddling

868
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: with strange powers. Some of that comes from Casey, And

869
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: if you would like to learn more about Edgar Casey,

870
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: you can again check out their website Edgar Casey dot org.

871
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: You can also, let's see, I would there are a

872
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,439
Speaker 1: ton of books. Yeah, there are a ton of books,

873
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: but I recommend looking at stuff from that society because

874
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: at least although they definitely are starting with the opinion

875
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: that the guy is correct, h, they're also using the

876
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: actual translations, so you won't run into a nostro damis

877
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: thing where someone made it up. Okay, that makes sense.

878
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: So start with the materials from Edgar Casey dot org

879
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: and then maybe move on to another spot, get some

880
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: other books and stuff like that. If you really want

881
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: to deep delve deep into this. I do like the

882
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: head or the header on the pages. Edgar Casey's are

883
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: a r E, which stands for Association for Research and Enlightenment,

884
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: acted since nineteen thirty one. They do have a health

885
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: SWAS center. Did you mention that already? Because you can

886
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: go you can go there. I mean, if you really

887
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: want to get into this head on out. Where is it?

888
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: Where is the main main office? Looks like it's in

889
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: Virginia Beach, Virginia Beach, Virginia, right, that's where he was

890
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: living at the time. I'm gonna have to see what

891
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: the what the scene is like. It would be nice

892
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: to it'd be nice to visit that. Here's another prediction

893
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: that he got wrong. It seems that the US would

894
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: discovering Atlantean death ray, as in a death ray from

895
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: the Law Civilization of Atlantis in nineteen Get it wrong

896
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: or did he been beat me to the punch? We

897
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: don't know at this point. Perhaps sometime we will in

898
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 1: the future. We do want to end, however, on something

899
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 1: a little bit different. We're talking about secrets, so let's

900
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: not just talk about another secret. Let's talk about three

901
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: at once, and that would be the three Secrets of Fatima.

902
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: This is a little bit different because it doesn't involve um,

903
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: it doesn't involve lifelong career sort of profits, you know,

904
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: like Agre Casey Nos Tre Damas Baba Vanga spent decades

905
00:55:55,560 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: uh making predictions. This, however, is this, however, is something

906
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: different that involves apparently divine direct divine intervention. So these

907
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 1: three young Portuguese shepherds, Lucia Santos primarily and then her

908
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 1: cousins are visited by an apparition of the Virgin Mary

909
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: several times, starting on the thirteenth of May nineteen seventeen.

910
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: They said they were visited six times between May and

911
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: October that year. Now this apparition is popularly known as

912
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: Our Lady of Fatima. She entrusted the children with three

913
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: secrets in July v Two of these secrets were revealed

914
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: in nineteen forty one at the request of a bishop

915
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: named Jose Alvas Correa del Silva, and he wanted to

916
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: assist with the publication of a new edition of a

917
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: book on one of the cousins. As for the third secret,

918
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: the bishop ordered her to put it and writing. Lucia

919
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 1: wrote it down, sealed it in an envelope that wasn't

920
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: not supposed to be opened until nineteen sixty, when it

921
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: would quote appear clearer the text of this third secret.

922
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: It was officially released by poop John Paul the Second

923
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: in two thousand or or was it because some people

924
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: claim that it was not the entire secret, and we

925
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: will never know for sure because only a few people

926
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: were actually in control of that information, right. Yeah. It

927
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: reminds me of when we did some of the we

928
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: did some of our earlier episodes on the the Restricted

929
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: Material and the Vatican Archives, because the secret archives the

930
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: Vatican are real, but they're using secret in a different way.

931
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: It's still tricky though, because you can request something if

932
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: you know exactly what you're requesting. Yeah. I feel like

933
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: someone should make a list of all possible things that

934
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: could ever exist and and just submit them daily to

935
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: the Vatican. What what are the what are the secrets? A? Yes,

936
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:10,479
Speaker 1: great question. Okay, So the first secret is a vision

937
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: of Hell. I've got some of the text. Our ladies

938
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: showed us a great sea of fire which seemed to

939
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: be under the earth, plunged in this fire, with demons

940
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: and souls in human form like transparent burning embers all

941
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: black and there burnished bronze that goes on. The second

942
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: was a statement that World War One would end, along

943
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: with the prediction of another war during the reign of

944
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: Pope Pious. Uh, and then that would happen if Russia

945
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: did not convert to Catholicism. Yeah, So basically one is

946
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: a vision of hell. One is about communist Russia. Uh,

947
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: and then the third one, though the third one, at

948
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: least the way it was published, was that there would

949
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: be an assassination attempt on Pope John Paul the second

950
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: and that's the crazy thing there was, you know. So

951
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: the thing is that there actually was an assassination attempt

952
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: on Pope John Paul, which occurred on the thirteenth of

953
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: May nine one. You can see a video of that

954
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: if you wish, and just head on over to YouTube.

955
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: And people have thought about this back and forth. You

956
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: know that it is actually a prophecy or is it

957
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: just something that would happen because the Pope is up

958
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: there with the US President or other heads of state

959
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,439
Speaker 1: who would be much more likely than the average person

960
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: to have an assassination attempt occur, perhaps even higher because

961
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: of the vitriol that you can have between religions. So

962
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: in June of two thousand, the that I can finally

963
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: release this uh, this secret. But there there have been

964
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: several other people who were involved with it who said

965
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: that um, that the the handwritten four page text is

966
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: not the real secret or not the full thing. And

967
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: they believe that the third secret is actually composed of

968
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: two texts, one of those is the four page published version.

969
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: The other is a single page letter containing the real

970
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: truth and their Italian journalists like Antonio soshi Um who

971
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 1: say that they have proof that there's a second secret.

972
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: All right, and here's here's just some of the proof. Quickly.

973
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: Uh Lucia Santo says she wrote the message in the

974
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: form of assigned letter to the bishop. The text is

975
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: supposed to contain words attributed to the Virgin Mary, which

976
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: the published one doesn't really the full secret. Bishops working

977
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: with Pope Pious, Pope John and Pope Paul all commented

978
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 1: that the text was written on one sheet of paper

979
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: for and the full secret, according to these people, contains

980
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: information about the apocalypse, a great apostasy, and Satanic infiltration

981
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: of the Catholic Church. Who and then you would hear

982
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: I remember a couple of years ago you heard a

983
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: lot about, oh gosh, what is the name of the

984
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 1: pope that is prior to the one we currently have.

985
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: And then after Pope John Paul, the second was Ratzinger

986
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: Ratzing Okay that I remember hearing lots and lots of

987
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 1: people talking about Ratzinger being this version of these prophecies

988
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: where he had infiltrated in his group had infiltrated, and

989
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: they're evil. That's the thing about prophecies. I mean, it's

990
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: so easy to let your imagination run wild and use

991
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: it to confirm something that you already believe. You know,

992
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: like this Pope feels like an outsider or something right,

993
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: and to be totally to be totally fair here, one

994
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: of the people who served as Vatican Secretary of State

995
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 1: until two third Team, a Cardinal Bertoni, wrote a book

996
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: called The Last Secret of Fatima and You, published in

997
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: Italian English, and it has an interview that touches on

998
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: this where the journalists, a journalist named Giuseppe Decarli is

999
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 1: interviewing Um is interviewing the cardinal, and he says, well,

1000
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: what about this rumor that you're concealing a one page

1001
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: text of the Third Secret that predicts Rome will lose

1002
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: the faith and become the throne of the Antichrist And

1003
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: the cardinal I just want to read this to be fair.

1004
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: The cardinal says, that's absolutely crazy. Are you claiming that

1005
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 1: the prophecy of Fatima is about the apostasy of the

1006
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: Church of Rome and Fatima is a prediction of Rome's

1007
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: transformation into the throne of the Antichrist, despite the love

1008
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 1: our lady capitalized, our Lady of Fatima has for the

1009
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: pope and the popes for our lady. Anyone can write books,

1010
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: can based on conspiracy theories, on biased interpretations. Anyone can

1011
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: take sentences out of context and present them as clues

1012
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: to some supposed plot, to avoid the volt the truth,

1013
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 1: and to transmit it in a code that only the

1014
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: initiates can understand. No, the whole theory you allude to

1015
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 1: is a fabrication, and this supposedly factual account is actually

1016
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: the sort of device the Mason's used to invent to

1017
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: discredit the church. I'm surprised that journalists and writers who

1018
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: claim to be Catholic let themselves be taken in strong words,

1019
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: really strong words. Who sounds like somebody I don't. My

1020
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 1: brain goes, oh boy, this guy sounds guilty. But well

1021
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: he might also just be irritated with having heard that, right,

1022
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I can imagine how irritating that would be.

1023
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 1: But at the same time to fight back that well,

1024
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 1: that's also that's our That's where we're ending, just because

1025
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: this is a thing where it's not as far as

1026
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: the Catholic Church is concerned. This is not a matter

1027
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: of interpretation. This is a true for telling of an

1028
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 1: event before it occurred. And the other three examples um

1029
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: k C, Bubba Anga and No Stra Damas are all

1030
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: a little bit more muddy m And I know we

1031
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 1: didn't get to everything, but there's so many profits. No,

1032
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 1: but it's sure is interesting to have these prophecies like

1033
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 1: officially sanctioned by such a you know, an important body

1034
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 1: as you know, the Holy Roman Church. It's pretty intense.

1035
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: There are a lot of There are a lot of

1036
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: interesting things that we could talk about regarding the power

1037
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 1: structure of the Catholic Church, not the faith or religion

1038
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 1: in any way. Uh, we've discussed it a bit in

1039
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: the past, but there's just some fascinating things I think

1040
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 1: we got into when we were talking about possessions and

1041
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 1: the it's just some old things that still exist now

1042
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 1: in the Catholic Church. I mean referring to the official exorcise. Yes, yes,

1043
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 1: that is that is a true and fascinating thing. We

1044
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: would like your help, folks. Do you have any profits

1045
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 1: that you would like us to look into in the

1046
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 1: future or prophecies, because we'll tell you right Now, one

1047
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: thing in our experience that occurred was that it was

1048
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: surprisingly difficult to find some of the actual like the

1049
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: what what our some of our co workers would call

1050
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 1: the actual facts translations? Uh and and to separate the

1051
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 1: chaff from the wheat, you know, the internet echo chamber.

1052
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 1: But we would like to hear some more people that

1053
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 1: we should check out. And I gotta ask, I gotta

1054
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: ask you guys. I know that we went on some

1055
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: tangents and discovered some future episodes we could cover, but

1056
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 1: what do you think about upcoming prophecies? And what do

1057
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 1: you what do you think we had talked about this before.

1058
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: Do you think that software and big data will eventually

1059
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: be able to do what human beings have been trying

1060
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Speaker 1: to do predict disasters and changes, big global changes like that.

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Speaker 1: I mean we've I think so. I think we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get darn close. I mean, I'm sure there are folks

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Speaker 1: are at work at it. Yeah, some of my whole

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01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 1: professors actually, yeah, oh, the the guy who's making the

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01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 1: huge map or the simulation. Yeah, that's super cool. Not

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01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 1: to mention things like predicting trends and you know commerce

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01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 1: in I mean, that's another world. But that's true. So

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01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: how do we get in on this? Well, if you

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01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 1: know how to do this, give us a write us

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01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 1: an email. We'll tell you how to do that in

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01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 1: a minute. Um right, it's like they'll joke about time traveling.

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Speaker 1: Time Traveler Club meets here two days ago. Yeah, we

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01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 1: meet every every Wednesday or Thursday here, So come join

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Speaker 1: us in the you know, in the booth. We will

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01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: allow you to be on here every every time we record.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, what are we gonna do if somebody burst

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01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 1: in and uh Doc Brown style and claims to have

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01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 1: traveled through time or to have a prediction the future.

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Speaker 1: I would hear them out resolutely. I don't see the harm.

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01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 1: I would give John Teter my seat and give them

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01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 1: a seat. We could just have them pull up another seat. No, no,

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01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: I just said, hey man, you go in there. I'm

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01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 1: gonna stay out here. There's there's a chair as an

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01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 1: extra chair. I don't want any I don't know time radiation,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm scared of that stuff. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: we'll we'll table that for future discussion. Barring any unexpected

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Speaker 1: time travelers arriving. It's almost time for us to head out.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys have any message for the New Year. Well,

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Speaker 1: I just want to say we all didn't die in

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01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 1: September of There were a lot of people and predictions

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01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 1: being made about something crazy happening at that time, and

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01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 1: they nothing happened. That's good. Maybe we did die and

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01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: that we're just like on the Lost Island. Oh how

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01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 1: could you tell? That's kind of cool if this is

1095
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 1: the afterlife. I gotta say, Um, I'm I'm having a

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01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 1: good time. It's not so bad. It's not as bad

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01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: as I thought. See, maybe we've always been making this

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01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 1: podcast and we will always be making this podcast. It's

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01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: a flat circle, bro, what about you know? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Apparently you're supposed to eat black eyed

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01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: peas and color greens and it gives you good financial luck.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna give that a go. Um, mainly, I

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01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:15,959
Speaker 1: don't know. No, it's been a good year. Um, still

1104
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 1: fighting this uh this Christmas croud here. So I I

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01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 1: hope that in the new Year that I don't have

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01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 1: a cold. I hope so too. Man. You know, I

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01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,560
Speaker 1: was talking to one of my friends recently and she

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01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 1: said that people were not supposed to eat lobster or

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01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:34,879
Speaker 1: chicken on the New Year because something about like chickens

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01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:39,799
Speaker 1: walking or how both animals moved backwards or something. I'm

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01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 1: not sure. I didn't sort it out. But then also

1112
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 1: I have failed often to eat the collar greens and

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01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 1: black eyed peas both friend of mine just suggested it.

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01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 1: It's like, no, you just just do it. You have

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01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 1: to do it. Yeah, it's ok. I wonder it's a

1116
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: Southern thing, right, hop and John, Like Hop and John

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01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 1: the Cuban side of my family, we have to eat

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01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: a certain number of grapes right up to the Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff that I have to do.

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Speaker 1: That's cool. So there we are, guys. We hope that

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Speaker 1: you have adventures in the New Year's If you are

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Speaker 1: making resolutions, keep in mind that you are statistically more

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Speaker 1: likely to keep a resolution if you make it almost

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01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:26,520
Speaker 1: any other month. Your birthday is really good for resolutions. January,

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Speaker 1: out of all twelve months, is the worst month to

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Speaker 1: attempt a resolution. Or don't tell anybody but your diary

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01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 1: or yourself or whatever it is that you use to

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01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 1: write down your resolution. Don't tell a single human being

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01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 1: or make a resolution to start doing something in February.

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01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 1: Doing it in February, give yourself some breathing like that,

1131
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 1: unlike the third February three third, so you have that

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Speaker 1: one day for the first of the second um two days.

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Speaker 1: All right, So, folks, we are going to head out.

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Speaker 1: If you would like to hear our podcast about predicting

1135
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:03,160
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1136
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Speaker 1: are conspiracy stuff on both of those. Huge shout out

1140
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 1: to the nrdest for mentioning this podcast. Holy mackerel cool.

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01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 1: I know we're just honorably mentioned, but still thanks, nerdest.

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01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 1: It was very nice. It was very It was very kind.

1143
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 1: You know. That's because one of us won that Russian

1144
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 1: League game, right what anyway, and that's the end of

1145
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1146
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