WEBVTT - Marvel's Hawkeye Episodes 2 & 3

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<v Speaker 1>Before we head into what can only be described and

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<v Speaker 1>a Year. Warning. This episode contains spoilers for Hawkeye episodes

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<v Speaker 1>two and three, as well as a lot of informed

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<v Speaker 1>conjecture about what might happen later on in the season,

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<v Speaker 1>and some discussion of some comics information related to Hawkeye

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<v Speaker 1>that could possibly give hints about where the series is going,

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<v Speaker 1>but not a terribly a lot of that, but a

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<v Speaker 1>little of that, So just be warned, and definitely if

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't seen episode three of Hawkey, which is fantastic,

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<v Speaker 1>watch it now before you listen to this. Hello, my

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<v Speaker 1>name is Jason and Stepsio and welcome to x Ravision,

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<v Speaker 1>The Crooked Podcast, where we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics,

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<v Speaker 1>and pop culture and more. In today's episode, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be recapping and talking about episodes two and the excellent

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<v Speaker 1>third episode of the show Hawkeye with our good friend

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<v Speaker 1>Cody Ziggler. In the omnibus section, we'll be talking about

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<v Speaker 1>organized crime in Marvel Comics. In the end game, yet

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<v Speaker 1>another game of assembly required. Let's go. Let's start with

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<v Speaker 1>episode two of Hawkeye hide and Seek, director by Rhys Thomas,

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<v Speaker 1>written by Eliza Clement. It opens right on the heels

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<v Speaker 1>of episode one. Clint drags Kate Bishop, who had recently

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<v Speaker 1>rescued from the Tracksuit Mafia and who is wearing his

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<v Speaker 1>old ron in costume that is evidence in multiple murders

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<v Speaker 1>across multiple international jurisdictions, into an alley, and he doesn't unmasking,

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<v Speaker 1>and he immediately says, come on because he sees before

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<v Speaker 1>him a nine year old.

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<v Speaker 2>Girl too happy to be in the superhero life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Kate naturally is you know, a little discombobulated. She

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<v Speaker 1>has just once again fought a bunch of organized crime figures.

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<v Speaker 1>She recently saw the corpse of her mother's fiances uncle.

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<v Speaker 2>We're that rich. The math of the family becomes very difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And now she is meeting her hero, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all in the space in a few minutes. She has

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<v Speaker 1>spent years study Clint from afar. Now she's like seeing

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<v Speaker 1>them up close. As they're walking, She's like, oh, are

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<v Speaker 1>you skinning for throats? And she's like, listen, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>black belt at fifteen, like I am one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best archers in the world. I'm ready for this. Back

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<v Speaker 1>at Kate's three bedroom bunker in the East Village or

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<v Speaker 1>wherever it is, Lower East Side somewhere, Clint meets the

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<v Speaker 1>Pizza Dog and he's like, give me my suit, Kate,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to give you my suit. Kate clearly saddened

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<v Speaker 1>by the prospect of having to give up the suit again,

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<v Speaker 1>not understanding the the what it's been through, and she

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<v Speaker 1>tells him listen, I got it at this black market auction,

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<v Speaker 1>a little shady place. I beat up a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>mafia guys. And by the way, you're my favorite adventure,

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<v Speaker 1>she insists. Listen, nobody, I don't worry about anybody tracking

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<v Speaker 1>the suit to me like I had the mask up nobody,

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<v Speaker 1>I got it, I got it, got and Clint is like, okay, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>that's good because again a lot of people don't like

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<v Speaker 1>the person wearing this.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to go into it, but there's a history there.

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<v Speaker 1>About in the history like it goes back to the snap.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to talk about it. We're good. And

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<v Speaker 1>then of course the tracksuit Mafia show ab outside the

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<v Speaker 1>start throwing Molotov cocktails and throwing a lot bro Clint

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<v Speaker 1>and Kate fight back. Kate gets to show off her

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<v Speaker 1>archery skills, which are really good. Unfortunately, her apartment is

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<v Speaker 1>now fully engulfed in flames. Kate Clinton lucky, thank god,

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<v Speaker 1>all escape. They take the subway to the nearest right

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<v Speaker 1>aid for some near sword and some band aids, and

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<v Speaker 1>Kate is like, yo, we're going to Avengers Tower right

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<v Speaker 1>Tony sold it, unfortunately, says probably before the move to

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<v Speaker 1>the Upstate compound, which, honestly, Kate, you should have seen

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<v Speaker 1>that in the news on like Courage or some like

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<v Speaker 1>Gothamist or some like some the real estate blog. Somebody

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<v Speaker 1>should have announced that they go to a place that

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<v Speaker 1>Kate knows. Kate's like, I know a place we can go.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the apartment of her aunt were Brandon More

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<v Speaker 1>is out of town. Now, FYI, fun Easter Egg. More

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon in the Marvel Comics is a like a Golden

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<v Speaker 1>Age of Hollywood. You're a former actress who ends up

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<v Speaker 1>selling her compound, her mansion down by like Redondo, to

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<v Speaker 1>the Avengers, to Clint Barton so that they can use

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<v Speaker 1>it for the West Coast Avengers compound. So really funny

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<v Speaker 1>easter egg. We're heading out west maybe. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>Kate in the comics has a history of hanging out

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<v Speaker 1>in La and so Clint is like, take some frozen

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<v Speaker 1>peas putting on your wounds. I'm gonna go find the

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<v Speaker 1>suit and I'll be back. He goes back to the apartment,

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<v Speaker 1>does not find the suit, but he does see a

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<v Speaker 1>sticker on the fire Department vehicle outside that says New

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<v Speaker 1>York's LARPing Club. I don't know how that exactly is

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<v Speaker 1>a connection, but I'm going with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like it's a big win for the Larby community today.

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<v Speaker 2>They were eating today. You know, they got to give

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<v Speaker 2>some love to those NYU Larper's, you know, shout out

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<v Speaker 2>to my boy girls.

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<v Speaker 1>Clint comes back to morras. He is grumpy, he misses

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<v Speaker 1>his family, et cetera, et cetera. Kate is like, you

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<v Speaker 1>found a clue? You did? I know it? I can

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<v Speaker 1>smell it on you and Kate and Clint is like,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah no. While he was away, Kate has been working

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<v Speaker 1>on highly accurate police style sketches of the Tracksuit Mafia vases,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a very funny moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you know she's a triple threat. Yeah, expert

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<v Speaker 2>archery and artists.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know she had it like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Clint Google's New York City larpin Club with I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we knew the guy was accurate. Right in the in

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<v Speaker 1>Ultimate Marvel, Clinton Barton kills like a bunch of batties

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<v Speaker 1>with his fingernails. He prizes his fingernails out of his

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<v Speaker 1>fingers and he flicks him at guys and kills them

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Here he has the most accurate tapping fingers

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<v Speaker 1>on a phone streen literally anybody's ever seen in like

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just like.

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<v Speaker 1>You. There's no backups, no deletes. He ends up right

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<v Speaker 1>on the instagram of a gentleman named Grills, who is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the firefighters. He stole the Ronan suit and

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<v Speaker 1>now he's just straight up wearing it, broadcasting to the

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<v Speaker 1>world that he has his suit. He'll be at a

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<v Speaker 1>LARPing event. Shortly, Clinton Kate watch a New York One

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<v Speaker 1>report about Armand's murder, and they discover that the someone

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<v Speaker 1>wearing the Roman costume is a person of interest in

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<v Speaker 1>the case. Kate is now a suspect and a murder.

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<v Speaker 1>Clint is increasingly annoyed, and he's like, listen, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to stay put. Your cops are looking for you, organized

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<v Speaker 1>crime wants to kill you. You got to stay here.

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<v Speaker 1>Kate learns about Clint's hearing a pairment. She asks him

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<v Speaker 1>about it, and Clint's like, listen, I've been banged up

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<v Speaker 1>for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've been blown up so many times, like he

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<v Speaker 2>got a dealer's choice ones.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't get it, like I who knows? Like how

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<v Speaker 1>this happened? And Kate and what is kind of one

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<v Speaker 1>of the early really chemistry forming moments. I love the

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<v Speaker 1>Haley and Renner are wonderful together, but here in a

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<v Speaker 1>really wonderful chemistry forming moment, Kate is like trying to

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<v Speaker 1>convince Clinton you need to be more out there. You

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<v Speaker 1>need to be more of like a front facing hero

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<v Speaker 1>because people need it right now, like post snap you

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<v Speaker 1>know she is, you know, post COVID, you know people,

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<v Speaker 1>people need it. They split up. Kate goes to her

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<v Speaker 1>mom's office at Bishop Security and Clint goes to get

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<v Speaker 1>the suit at the at the larpening event and they

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<v Speaker 1>trade numbers and Clint's like, here's my number unless Sano

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<v Speaker 1>shows up again, do not fucking call me at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Kate at Eleanor's office. What does she find? He finds

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<v Speaker 1>Jack just chilling there. This guy likes in the cut,

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<v Speaker 1>like does Eleanor has This is a work day, Like Jack,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to drop off some food and bouquet flower

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<v Speaker 1>something that's nice, but like you don't need to hang

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<v Speaker 1>out here, but he is. Kate gives Jack her condolences

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<v Speaker 1>because of course his uncle was recently murdered. Jack, it's

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<v Speaker 1>rolling right off his back, man, He's not. He's moved on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that mustaches his lack of caring for his uncle.

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<v Speaker 2>Like he's chilling, he's he's good with it.

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<v Speaker 1>He keeps a deep inside and in fact, he's like

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<v Speaker 1>it seems to be actively trolling Kate, Eleanor and writes

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<v Speaker 1>Kate to dinner. Later at the penthouse, Jack is cooking.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta try his risotto, Kate say his bet, but

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<v Speaker 1>I get to steer the conversation. Okay. Clint goes to

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<v Speaker 1>the LARP. Long story short, he gets a suit back.

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<v Speaker 1>He has to take an embarrassing l to grills in

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<v Speaker 1>person in front of everybody, but he does get the

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<v Speaker 1>suit back. At Bishop Security, Kate gets a shocking call

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<v Speaker 1>from Detective Caudle of the NYPD. I'd like to speak

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<v Speaker 1>to her. Kate's like, I'll come in the following day,

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<v Speaker 1>not today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got some stuff on the docket today.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll do that. I'm gonna talk to my mom,

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<v Speaker 1>get our high priced lawyer to come with me. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to do that today. Clint tells Laura the

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<v Speaker 1>first of many calls. Listen, it's gone. I'm being late

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<v Speaker 1>and using coded language, which I gotta tell you I

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<v Speaker 1>think plays into our theory.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Laura has been in that life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's a little bit too cool to a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit too well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, lose it a little bit too well. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to see her swing into action. I think uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and he basically tells her, listen, we're gonna I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>settle things with the tracksuit mafias. And it's clear that

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<v Speaker 1>he has some experience with him, He's aware of them,

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<v Speaker 1>has tussled with him before. Perhaps he says he's not

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<v Speaker 1>sure how high up this whole thing goes, suggesting a

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<v Speaker 1>larger criminal figure, a kingpin, if you will, maybe behind them,

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<v Speaker 1>and Clint's like, but listen, don't worry. I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>home for Christmas. And Laura's like, what's the play? Which

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<v Speaker 1>again more about it. Clint is like, I'm gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>catch and release, which is a NAT's favorite. Laura not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's when we meet Nataja Romanov in Marvels The Avengers.

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<v Speaker 1>She is in the midst of a catch and release

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<v Speaker 1>with the Russian guys. Uh. So. Over to Eleanor's Jax

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<v Speaker 1>Risotto's apparently wonderful. I love to try it. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>ever Rosta? Do you have a Resolta recipe?

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<v Speaker 2>Zig No? But like I like his his his tip

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<v Speaker 2>if you have to agitate, It's like, maybe that's the key.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to talk some shit to it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>embarrassing in front of its parents and then.

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<v Speaker 1>Beat h Well, Kate listen is again. He loves to agitate,

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<v Speaker 1>he loves the troll. He is playing with Kate a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and and you know, knows that she knows something and

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<v Speaker 1>is playing with the idea that she knows but is

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<v Speaker 1>but is having fun with the fact that Eleanor is

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<v Speaker 1>blissfully unaware of everything. Kate is like, hey, Jack, you

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<v Speaker 1>know about swords, you know about uh repasts, you know

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<v Speaker 1>about I don't know all the lingo, but like Kate

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<v Speaker 1>clearly does because she's a two time state champion, as

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<v Speaker 1>she tells him. And all this ends up with the

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<v Speaker 1>two of them sparring. They get the fencing gear out,

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<v Speaker 1>they start going at it, and Jack lets her win

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<v Speaker 1>numerous times again and again. Kate's like, you're letting me

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<v Speaker 1>stop it. I know you're good, stop it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>as he looks away, she goes to stab him, like

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<v Speaker 1>in the neck.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, old on, let me, let me, let me

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<v Speaker 2>turn on a little bit. That's like what you would play,

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<v Speaker 2>like play basketball with, like your uncle who was really

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<v Speaker 2>really good, And he's like, I let you get a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of shots, but like once you even try, like

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<v Speaker 2>actually come at me, I'm gonna go break your ankles

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<v Speaker 2>embarrassed a little, and that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly what it was. He just goes ping Perry's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Her blade goes like spinning across the floor, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he straight up is like, to be fair, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>play my skill and repeatedly died oft it. Eleanor does

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<v Speaker 1>not even register this. Jack just said, I've been lying

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<v Speaker 1>completely throughout the entire year. I've been lying. She's for

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit esus like furious at Katie, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to say one thing about this. So Eleanor

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<v Speaker 1>played by the wonderful Viraa Farmiga, who I love and

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<v Speaker 1>everything she's ever done. She lost her husband tragically during

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<v Speaker 1>the Chutari attack, which nobody ever expects. You're sitting at

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<v Speaker 1>home having a nice day, and you know, nobody ever

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<v Speaker 1>expects that, you know, to go to have tragedy occur

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<v Speaker 1>that way with an invasion of aliens led by a

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<v Speaker 1>Norse god, and clearly the family was in some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of economic streets at the time, you know, that decade

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<v Speaker 1>plus ago, and she's done an incredible job, not just

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<v Speaker 1>steadying the family finances, but like building on it, taking

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<v Speaker 1>care of her daughter. And she's clearly sacrificed her social life,

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<v Speaker 1>her personal life to do that, and now this man

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<v Speaker 1>comes into her life. He's debonair. Maybe she doesn't know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about him, a little dangerous, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's she wants to hold on to it, And so

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<v Speaker 1>I feel bad for Eleanor in that respect. Kate, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>is trying to be like, he just admitted he lied,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, well, what's happening, And again Eleanor is not

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<v Speaker 1>hearing it. Eleanor walks away, and Jack is like, can

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<v Speaker 1>I offer you a monogram butterscotch from the home of

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<v Speaker 1>armand Duqute, my recently murdered uncle.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, shout out underneath his underneath his best you see,

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<v Speaker 2>they like one of those spray paint you know, rest

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<v Speaker 2>and piece things you get my stocking market.

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<v Speaker 1>Later, the tracksuit Mafia captured Hawkeye, just as he intended.

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<v Speaker 1>They take him off in a van, in a moving van,

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<v Speaker 1>trust to Brow, moving off to their warehouse. Meanwhile, Kate

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<v Speaker 1>is calling Clint. She's trying to talk to him because

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, listen, my mother's boyfriend is fucked up. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is shady as hell, Clint Hello, So she

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<v Speaker 1>can't get in touch with him. So what does she do.

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<v Speaker 1>She commits what is probably a federal crime by packing

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<v Speaker 1>into his phone and you know, and a and a

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<v Speaker 1>private cellular network using Bishop Technical Securities n S a

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<v Speaker 1>spyware online portal that is apparently accessible to like any

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<v Speaker 1>employee like in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like her last names on the end of the

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<v Speaker 2>d of the building. Maybe she has a special.

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<v Speaker 1>Action and she tracks him to the warehouse. I Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>the mafia is stay on hood, Clint. They're interrogating him.

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<v Speaker 1>Clint is like, listen, I want to speak to your manager. Okay, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, don't call the shots. I know that you're

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<v Speaker 1>all dressed the same. That's the number one hint. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to speak to whoever your boss is so we

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<v Speaker 1>can clear all this up. They want to know where

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<v Speaker 1>Cape Bishop is. He's like, who, what? Who? And then

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<v Speaker 1>in a moment that is feels very of a piece

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<v Speaker 1>with the co with the vibe of the Hawkeye comics,

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<v Speaker 1>Kate Bishop comes crashing through the skylight in a in

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<v Speaker 1>a torrent of broken glass and lands on the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>And in another room, Maya Lopez Echo gets the news

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<v Speaker 1>that the prisoners are in hand, and she begins to

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<v Speaker 1>plot her next move now onto episode three Echoes. Directed

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<v Speaker 1>by Burton Bertie, written by Katie Matthewson and Tanner Bean.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode is fair, straight up.

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<v Speaker 2>Straight up, straight up faction comic fun. That's exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>it is, straight up.

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<v Speaker 1>Like top level Marvel television comics, television fun like it's

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<v Speaker 1>got everything and heartbreaking organ story, incredible like chemistry between

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<v Speaker 1>two heroes that kind of don't get along but also

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<v Speaker 1>are star like each other, and like unbelievable action throughout.

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<v Speaker 1>So we open in two thousand and seven, a young

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<v Speaker 1>Maya Lopus is in class. She is deaf, and so

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<v Speaker 1>she is using her already acute but clearly developing powers

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<v Speaker 1>of observation to understand what's going on in class read

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<v Speaker 1>her teacher's lips. She's not perfect at it yet, but

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<v Speaker 1>her school work is just absolutely fallless, nonetheless like straight

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<v Speaker 1>as she's a brain. Later, we see Maya and her

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<v Speaker 1>father played by the wonderful so On mclaarlan, in her room.

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<v Speaker 1>They are signing together. It's just really hard, beautiful, unbelievable stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>She's asking her dad, you know, are about different animal

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<v Speaker 1>sounds and our dragons, which sounds of dragons make are

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<v Speaker 1>they real? Seemingly a nod to the recently released Shung.

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<v Speaker 1>She Maya asks her dad, Hey, like I thought I was.

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<v Speaker 1>You were going to enroll me in the deaf school,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, no, I know it's hard. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>but this way is better because you're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>learn to jump between two worlds. She's out, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just by watching, and we get another scene in a

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<v Speaker 1>martial arts class where it's clear that Maya's powers of

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<v Speaker 1>observation are just growing with every day. She easily beats

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<v Speaker 1>an opponent just by watching him and understanding his tendencies,

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<v Speaker 1>and we fast forward years again we see an adult

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<v Speaker 1>Maya just fucking ironing out a spark cart.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just embarrassing everyone, yes, stomping him out.

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<v Speaker 1>She goes back to her father's autobody shop headquarters. It

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<v Speaker 1>is called fat Man Auto Repair. Hint, hint, and who

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<v Speaker 1>does she find but the Ronan. In the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>a killing spury, she sees the Ronan stab her father

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<v Speaker 1>through the gut. He is mortally wounded. He says he

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<v Speaker 1>signs to her fly away from here, little Dragon, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he dies. This is what this is what I

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<v Speaker 1>love about comics. For me, Yes, this is what I

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<v Speaker 1>love about comics and why I've always connected to it because, like,

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<v Speaker 1>at its core, superior comics are about giving meaning to tragedy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, people are born differently and that can cause

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<v Speaker 1>them a lot of pain. You know, maybe you're born

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<v Speaker 1>with some kind of impairment, maybe you're born feeling like

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<v Speaker 1>you don't look like everybody else. Tragedies happen to people.

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<v Speaker 1>You lose, people you know, loved ones get sick, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the real world it's like that just happens.

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<v Speaker 1>You just like have to process through it and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, is the world unfair? I guess it is,

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<v Speaker 1>like that really sucks. In comics, all of that serves

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<v Speaker 1>to create a reason that someone has a past.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, yeah, it's it's the myth man. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>the classic myth. Like you know, it's like if Maya

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<v Speaker 2>could have flipped the coin and it could land it

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<v Speaker 2>heads or tails. Head, she becomes a good person, tells

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<v Speaker 2>she becomes bad, and like this when it happened to

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<v Speaker 2>land on tails, and like you realize that her journey

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be becoming good maybe I mean, or

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<v Speaker 2>at least an anti hero and like that's like that's

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<v Speaker 2>the just at the classic power that you can comics

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<v Speaker 2>and they fucking perfectly nailed dot and nailed it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's the stuff that just gets me, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, So we go to the present day. We

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<v Speaker 1>see Kate and Clint. They're on those little like corn

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<v Speaker 1>operated carnival horse rides and the track suits are just

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<v Speaker 1>like making fun of them. A wonderful moment in which

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<v Speaker 1>Enrique asks Kate how to deal with an issue about imagining.

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<v Speaker 3>Dragon soy, I built the imagine dragons stick. It's as

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<v Speaker 3>a gift, you know, as a gift. And then we

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<v Speaker 3>have a fight and my girlfriend say, I take there's

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<v Speaker 3>a gift for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I take them and I go with the girlfriend. She

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<v Speaker 1>do this on purpose. And then Kate is like, Kate

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<v Speaker 1>says something I just love kids is something super simple

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<v Speaker 1>like why don't you apologize? And Enrique's like, I got

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<v Speaker 1>to go write this down.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on, that's such like that seems like something ripped

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<v Speaker 2>straight from I know it's not a word for word,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's like such the vibe of the Faction comics

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<v Speaker 2>of like these are just like these are like the

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote bad guys but they still have like a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of like humanity to him, like a fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Twere absolutely is the vibe they've captured, the vibe of

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff, like really really well, this is again a

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<v Speaker 1>great episode. Maya comes down. She notices that Clint has

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<v Speaker 1>a hearing ag She signs to him and asks him

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Clint signs that listen, I'm hard of hearing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not deaf. Maya then fires off a full speed

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<v Speaker 1>flurry of asl that Clint is just like what a more? Please,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, And with that, Clint's ASL quiver is officially empty. Kazi,

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<v Speaker 1>Maya's translator and right hand tracksuit mafia person, then asks Clint,

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<v Speaker 1>here's okay. She wants to know, like why you're here.

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<v Speaker 1>Maya suggests that Clint, you know you depend too much

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<v Speaker 1>on tech. You should actually get rid to that trump

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<v Speaker 1>in your other senses, relaying the advice her father gave

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<v Speaker 1>her once upon a time. In a different form, Clint

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<v Speaker 1>tells Maya that listen, Kate isn't Ronan. She got the suite,

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<v Speaker 1>she came across it and she put it on. She

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't know what it means. Just like, let's just let

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<v Speaker 1>her go. Okay, and Maya is like, well, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard that the Ronan is back. This is too

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<v Speaker 1>there's too many coins that is going on here, and

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<v Speaker 1>Clint says, listen, that's just a rumor. Ronan is dead.

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<v Speaker 1>I was there when he was killed by my best

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<v Speaker 1>friend Natasha romanof Rest in Peace. Now, we all saw

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<v Speaker 1>that scene in in Avengers Endgame, and we know that's

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<v Speaker 1>not exactly how it went. But that's okay. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>to see that. Clint Barton feels really bad about going

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<v Speaker 1>on in international murders free you know, extra judicial murders.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure what the evidentiary rules that he set

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<v Speaker 1>up for himself war, but he was just out there,

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<v Speaker 1>just anybody in the building was getting cut.

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<v Speaker 2>Cliner getting got security guard got yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Maya's like, Clint, you're lying. And then so she goes

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<v Speaker 1>to ask Kate, you know, why did you put on

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<v Speaker 1>the suit where you get it? And as Kate is answering,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Maya just flashes back to the murder of

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<v Speaker 1>her father and she lose it. She starts choking Kate.

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<v Speaker 1>Kazi is like, hello, you know, can we talk for

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<v Speaker 1>a second. While they are arguing Clint settles Kate down

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, listen, get ready for what's about to happen. Boom,

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<v Speaker 1>he saw him through it, his his taped bonds, and

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<v Speaker 1>a big fight happens, which is absolutely wonderful. We get

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<v Speaker 1>to see them all in action. Clint uses the ball

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<v Speaker 1>pit for cover at one point and they managed to

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<v Speaker 1>escape the warehouse. They hot wire car track suits in

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<v Speaker 1>Maya gave chase. We get a wonderful reference to the

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<v Speaker 1>car scene, the kind of like three sixty degree one

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<v Speaker 1>shot take car scene from Children of Men by Alfonso Coron,

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite movies. We get to see Kate

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<v Speaker 1>shoot some of the trick arrows, including putty arrow explosive arrow,

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<v Speaker 1>which the detonation of which gives Kate, I believe, her

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<v Speaker 1>first official kills in the MCU.

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<v Speaker 2>Because yeah, I took three episodes, but she got there.

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<v Speaker 1>She got it. We also see the USB arrow from

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<v Speaker 1>from What Iss? Yeah love that, and then the chase

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<v Speaker 1>makes zero sense geographically by the way, but we end

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<v Speaker 1>up on the Williamsburg Bridge where Clinton Kate use a

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<v Speaker 1>regular arrow plus a pim arrow to definitively end the chase,

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<v Speaker 1>and then with bullets whizzing at them. They dive off

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<v Speaker 1>the side of the bridge, use a grappling hook, swing

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<v Speaker 1>onto the top of a train that's running along the

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<v Speaker 1>lower deck, which is a really cool moment because we

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<v Speaker 1>remember Kate's first glimpse of Hawkeye was him diving off

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<v Speaker 1>the roof during the chitary attack, so here she gets

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<v Speaker 1>to do it with her hero, which is awesome. Clint

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<v Speaker 1>tells Kate, hey, his tranade, by the way, gone right now,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a one way conversation to an extent, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, you know, you really are a legit great archer,

0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:13.040
<v Speaker 1>and Kate is like, holy shit, this is amazing. We

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<v Speaker 1>end up back at Morrisey's village pad Clint is again

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<v Speaker 1>using frozen produce to ice his bruises and stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>his phone rings, and here we get like one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite scenes, I think in any Marvel thing ever.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a great Clint gets a call. He thinks

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<v Speaker 1>it's from Laura. It's actually from Nathaniel, but he can't

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<v Speaker 1>hear it, and so he's trying to like play it off, like, oh, honey,

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<v Speaker 1>can you text me. Kate comes up and writes down

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<v Speaker 1>everything that Nate is saying, and you know, He's like, Dad,

0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:44.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm bored, Mommy's asleep. It is like a very kid

0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 1>thing to say. And eventually Clint says, listen, I'm not

0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:51.399
<v Speaker 1>going to be home for a family movie night. And

0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:53.719
<v Speaker 1>Nate's like, listen, if you can't make it over Christmas,

0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 1>I get it, and Clint's like, I promise, I'm going

0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:57.720
<v Speaker 1>to be there. Let's pause here for a sing.

0:25:57.920 --> 0:25:59.480
<v Speaker 2>See breaking apart. You see.

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<v Speaker 1>I tear it up. I honestly did tear up because

0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 1>RENNERD does it all on his face right here, and

0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:08.520
<v Speaker 1>it is and even Kate, you can see great stuff

0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:12.359
<v Speaker 1>from Hailey Steinfeld. Kate you can tell feels like fuck,

0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:16.720
<v Speaker 1>I fuck this guy's life up. Ben, Yeah, let me

0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:19.640
<v Speaker 1>ask you here because I'm getting these vibes like, man,

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:21.520
<v Speaker 1>are they gonna kill Clint Barton?

0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:23.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I don't know.

0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's a lot of I'm gonna be there,

0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:29.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm telling I'm coming home. I'm gonna do it.

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get there.

0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I feel like it may be one of those

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 2>things where if they I don't think they straight up

0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:37.560
<v Speaker 2>kill him. But baby, I don't know. I think no,

0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:39.480
<v Speaker 2>I think what will happen is like we will see

0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:42.440
<v Speaker 2>your first official like passing of the like mantle, like

0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 2>we sort of mean you got it. The implied with

0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 2>with you know, cap doing it an endgame, but like

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:49.000
<v Speaker 2>this is like he's in this prime, like he has

0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:50.680
<v Speaker 2>this kid. I think this is like his last rodeo.

0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:52.720
<v Speaker 2>He's like, you know what, I went out. I helped

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:54.920
<v Speaker 2>this lady, Like she's capable of being here, and like

0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 2>she has my number if she needs to kill me.

0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:59.240
<v Speaker 2>But like, don't call me, like you said, Lesteno's sons

0:26:59.280 --> 0:26:59.840
<v Speaker 2>is popping up.

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<v Speaker 1>I could see him getting so because you know, him

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 1>getting banged up is kind of part of the deal

0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:08.600
<v Speaker 1>and part of the character. I could see him getting

0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:10.960
<v Speaker 1>so injured that he's just like I can't do it anymore.

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's how they do it. We go to the

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 1>tracksuit warehouse Trust to brow the fleet of Trust bro

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 1>vans are out there. Kasie pulls my aside. He's like, listen,

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 1>are you maybe like pulling on a little too tight

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:25.520
<v Speaker 1>the thrown thing. You know, we should be keeping a

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:28.320
<v Speaker 1>low profile, not banging in on the streets. If the

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:33.960
<v Speaker 1>uncle finds out, if our boss uncle, who listen. There's

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:37.639
<v Speaker 1>a lot of theorizing that it's Kingpin. I don't know how.

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a big look at hand, it was

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:43.639
<v Speaker 1>a big looking suit. It was very similar to the

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:46.320
<v Speaker 1>suit Denofrio wears in the in the Netflix series. I

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 1>it's him, I'm just I will be shocked if it's

0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:52.879
<v Speaker 1>not him. Anyway, Maya's like, you would not question my

0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:56.120
<v Speaker 1>father like this, right, And you know, honestly, she is right,

0:27:56.720 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 1>and that conversation just gets fucking shut down, and she's like,

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:04.720
<v Speaker 1>tracksuit guys. You guys are absolute fucking morons. Okay, but

0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:07.919
<v Speaker 1>I want you to investigate Clint Barton by hooker by crook,

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Like you guys can't even figure out what to do

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:11.959
<v Speaker 1>with the manager dragon tickets. I don't care. I want

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:14.919
<v Speaker 1>you to investigate a former Shield agent in Chinatown. Kate

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:17.320
<v Speaker 1>and Clint go to get his hearing it fixed. Later,

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:20.440
<v Speaker 1>they grab lunch where Kate is just buzzing on adrenaline

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 1>because they're having adventures and she's getting to do this

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:24.359
<v Speaker 1>with a hero, and Clint is like, I turned my

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 1>shit off. I'm not hearing you. Literally, I'm gonna turn

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 1>my shit on now so I can order coffee. Yeah,

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Kate tells Clint, I've always wanted to be a superhero.

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 1>This is amazing that I said we're doing I'm doing it.

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 1>And then another just wonderful small scene between these these

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 1>two actors. Clint is like, listen, there's a price. There's

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 1>a price you have to pay. It's not just that

0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:49.720
<v Speaker 1>my hearing is impaired. Unspoken is all the time spent

0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 1>alone with my family, the kind of like soul cost

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 1>of the fact that I've killed so many people, watching

0:28:56.240 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Nat die in front of me, all of that. Kate,

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Speaker 1>it is like, Okay, boom er, whatever, check this out.

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to draw you a new costume. And then

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:06.600
<v Speaker 1>she draws him a costume, which is basically Don Heck's

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>og Hawkeye design from the six season is super cool.

0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Clint's like, I'm not wearing that. I won't wear a mask.

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not wearing that. My wife would leave me the

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 1>whole thing. Yes, And Kate is like, well, you know

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 1>the way you're protecting Ronan, you must know who it is.

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 1>That's got to be somebody close to you. Clint doesn't answer,

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:29.040
<v Speaker 1>but he does tell Kate that listen, I'm not a

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 1>role model. I'm not a hero. Kate doesn't get it.

0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 1>She's not seen the body count again. Later on, Clint

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 1>begrudgingly tells Kate some very very extremely basic info in

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:43.240
<v Speaker 1>the track suits. They were once a small gang and

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:50.320
<v Speaker 1>now they're bigger, okay, all right, and that the boss

0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:52.640
<v Speaker 1>at the top will do anything to grow the operation.

0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Ha huh Ronan. Clint says, hit a supplier of the

0:29:57.160 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 1>track suits, and then hit tracksuit management in what we

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 1>assume is we'll talk about if that's the case in

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 1>the conversation that follows this, and it's assumed that kills

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Maya's dad that was what he's talking about is the

0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 1>attack that we saw at the beginning of this episode

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 1>in the cab right back, Clint wonders what else the

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:20.520
<v Speaker 1>tracksuits were after not knowing, of course, about the watch

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 1>which we saw in a previous episode, they break into

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 1>Kate's mom's penthouse to get into the Bishop security mainframe

0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 1>find some info about the tracksuits. They discover that Kazi

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>has links to a company called Sloan Ltd. There's also

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:36.120
<v Speaker 1>a really cool easter egg more Daredevil stuff. There's a

0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 1>really cool Easter egg. One of the names in that

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:42.800
<v Speaker 1>database is m Kemp, which is probably Michael Kemp, who

0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 1>is a character from Daredevil season three where Matt Murdoch

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 1>breaks into Rikers to talk to this low level Albanian gangster.

0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>And it's episode four And if you haven't caught up

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 1>with dared Oel, maybe you know and you want to

0:30:57.600 --> 0:31:02.600
<v Speaker 1>see something incredible. Four of season three of Daredevil has

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 1>a one take action scene in which Matt escapes from

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Rikers and it's legitimately one of the great action scenes

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 1>of the last five years movies, television, whatever. It's nuts

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 1>so cool easter egg there. Then Kate is you know,

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 1>continues to hack, but then she gets locked out of

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 1>the system, and Clint is just like marveling at the

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 1>riches of the Kate Bishop penthouse. He's walking around looking

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 1>at it, and next thing you know, he finds a

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:33.360
<v Speaker 1>sword at his neck. It is his own Ronan sword

0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>held by one Jack Dukane, who I can only suspect

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 1>next episode will open the episode by saying, Clint, my boy, yeah,

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:53.720
<v Speaker 1>my protege okay. So critics and the viewers love it.

0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 1>Ninety two positive on Rotten Dematos by critics, eighty percent

0:31:57.440 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 1>says the audience here is my kale. At the New

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>York Times, Seinfeld and Renner are good foils for each other,

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 1>as Bishop pushes Bartner relax and he tends to act

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>like her fussy at he really is a boomer in

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:12.680
<v Speaker 1>this Positive reviews, Positive reviews. Let's go on to the

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>theories and what's going on here. Okay, we're stepping out

0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:33.520
<v Speaker 1>of the airlock and into a wonderfully up kept nineteen

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 1>seventy Dodge Challenger to discuss Hawkeye on Disney Plus Zig

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 1>what did you think of these episodes? And man, is

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:43.560
<v Speaker 1>it the Kingpin? Is it the kig Pin? Thanks?

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 2>Starting off? The episodes are great. I let them across

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 2>the board. Number three was the episode three was definitely

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:50.440
<v Speaker 2>may like, fuck, the show is good. Like I was

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 2>telling Jason before before we recorded that, I almost texted

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 2>him like, damn, I can't believe I actually care about

0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Clinton Barton because I've never It's sort of like how

0:32:57.480 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 2>the Faction comments, like I never gave particularly much of

0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 2>a shit about Hawkeye or Clint Barton, but like that

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 2>comic made me care, Like this episode three had made

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 2>me care. It's great. I it's got to be the Kingpin.

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:10.240
<v Speaker 2>I was like, who else? Who else has that thick

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 2>that thick of a suit and that thick of a hand,

0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:14.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, walking around working with like some some vaguely

0:33:14.880 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Albanian dudes like fingers crossed, like I hope my heart

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 2>of heart wanted to be the Kingpin man.

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, same here. I love this episode for all the

0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 1>reasons I said above. I think they're doing something really

0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of magical with with Hawkeye with Clint Barton. In

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:36.719
<v Speaker 1>that one, they are acknowledging that he killed a lot

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:38.720
<v Speaker 1>of people and that it was a bad thing that

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 1>he did, like that wasn't good, and they are acknowledging

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:45.720
<v Speaker 1>the toll that it's taken on him. But also to

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:48.479
<v Speaker 1>your point, and this is on the heels of an

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 1>episode in which you saw him murder like what seemed

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 1>like a really loving father, his father.

0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeh.

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're making you care about him like they they

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 1>all these family moments, all the moments with Kate where

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 1>he you can feel him against his better judgment, like

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of liking her, yeah, but also wanting to be like, man, don't.

0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:11.959
<v Speaker 2>You don't do this? Yeah? It really makes it, really,

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:14.840
<v Speaker 2>it really makes me. This is the thought I always

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 2>have when I'm reading like a Punisher comic, where I'm like,

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:19.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean I also have like the very

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:22.240
<v Speaker 2>bad guys who are doing like you know, sex trafficking

0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:24.360
<v Speaker 2>and like actual war cariminals. Yeah, but it's like a

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 2>dude selling drugs he's getting shot in the face because

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 2>he's be given a bad hand. Like that's the thought

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:33.400
<v Speaker 2>that I had with with you know, echoes Dad, and

0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 2>it brings me this at this point I talked about

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:37.880
<v Speaker 2>last time, but like this is like the first like

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:40.880
<v Speaker 2>street level stuff that we've seen, and like I like

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:42.840
<v Speaker 2>that they're playing it smart and it's not just like

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:45.839
<v Speaker 2>this guy robbing a car and he needs to get

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:47.799
<v Speaker 2>his fucking neck broken, Like well, why is he rapping

0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 2>the car? Like yeah, what are the systematic things that

0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 2>are in places make him have to do that? And

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:54.840
<v Speaker 2>like this is the first time like we're sort of

0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:57.439
<v Speaker 2>seeing that, Like we're seeing like, yeah, they're big bads.

0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:00.279
<v Speaker 2>Are just a bunch of like vaguely Eastern European dudes

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 2>and tracksuits. They're they're having fun. They're pulling out suction

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:06.640
<v Speaker 2>cup you know, arrows and and putty arrows and like

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:09.200
<v Speaker 2>they're kidding people with like you know trick as that

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:11.400
<v Speaker 2>bringing up a bunch of like Christmas trees, so to

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 2>one another. It's like it's just a fun thing when

0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:14.759
<v Speaker 2>it's so much more grounded in the stakes are so

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 2>much lower that you can have this big fun comic

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:18.880
<v Speaker 2>bookiness of us all, which I think, you know, we

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:21.360
<v Speaker 2>haven't really got that aspect in Marvel yet, when like

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 2>just the street level guys on the ground fighting like

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:24.600
<v Speaker 2>low steaks guys.

0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I totally agree with you. And again it is

0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 1>it just ties into the stuff that I've loved about

0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 1>comics from an early age, which is like it you know, honestly,

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:37.759
<v Speaker 1>you take the suit and the powers away, and these

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 1>are like some of the saddest stories you know ever,

0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:43.719
<v Speaker 1>Like you take Spider Man, you take the powers away

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:46.439
<v Speaker 1>from Spider Man, and it's like a young man makes

0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:49.920
<v Speaker 1>a poor decision that leads to his beloved uncle. He's

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:52.080
<v Speaker 1>already an orphan and he's living with his uncle and

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:56.520
<v Speaker 1>aunt and leads to his uncle getting murdered awful, you know,

0:35:56.920 --> 0:35:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Like it's the same with any you know, like Harry

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Potters and great example that's just like an abused kid

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 1>that's like his was kept under the stairs by like relatives,

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:10.080
<v Speaker 1>like if he never gets a magic letter his to

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:12.960
<v Speaker 1>give all of that meaning. It doesn't change. Maya is

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:16.439
<v Speaker 1>someone who watches her dad like horrifically murdered in front

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:21.239
<v Speaker 1>of her, and if not for it's her personal dedication

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 1>and her like doggedness and talent that allows that to

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:29.719
<v Speaker 1>like alchemize and turn into her having these like amazing abilities.

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:31.359
<v Speaker 1>That is the kind of stuff like as a kid,

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 1>that is the stuff you just like daydream about.

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:36.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it also makes me think, like, you know, if

0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:37.560
<v Speaker 2>this is if this is like just a straight up

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 2>comic and like not having to like write stuff like

0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:42.480
<v Speaker 2>this would be she would be the that would be

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:44.600
<v Speaker 2>like the first five pages of like the next Great

0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Daredevil comic. You know, like she's like she's she very

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 2>much feels like, you know, this is like if Matt

0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Mardach went down the bath his dad getting killed by

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:54.920
<v Speaker 2>the Kingpin. Her dad gets killed by their roanin Like

0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:56.719
<v Speaker 2>she has a very similar power set. It seems like

0:36:56.760 --> 0:36:58.640
<v Speaker 2>at least, you know what the you know, the hearing

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:00.759
<v Speaker 2>stuff and like being able to see stuff or like yeah,

0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:02.759
<v Speaker 2>like you want to root for that and like, yeah,

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:04.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it's just it's just so much cooler.

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:06.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's a lot of it's been cool, but

0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:08.440
<v Speaker 2>like It's cool seeing like a person that you can

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:10.840
<v Speaker 2>probably meet, like in their superpowers, just like being like

0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 2>fifteen percent better than most humans, you know, like that's

0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:15.279
<v Speaker 2>really what her superpower is.

0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Great origin story like this is how you do it?

0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:20.840
<v Speaker 4>It was what like.

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Four scenes maybe five and a half minutes total, and

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:29.520
<v Speaker 1>you got it. Yes, you got everything that drives her.

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 1>You know what she can do, and you know why

0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:36.759
<v Speaker 1>she is absolutely enraged and furious. I can't wait for

0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:40.840
<v Speaker 1>the Maya show. A'subout theory. So Saul are one of

0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:44.279
<v Speaker 1>our producers, Saul Rubin, we were discussing in the pre

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 1>pro like, oh, that's crazy, Like Clint during his killing

0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:51.000
<v Speaker 1>spree killed Maya's dad. That was awful, And then Saul

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:54.360
<v Speaker 1>brought up that in the comics, it's actually the Kingpin

0:37:54.440 --> 0:37:58.080
<v Speaker 1>that orders the murder of Maya's dad and then he

0:37:58.160 --> 0:38:01.160
<v Speaker 1>frames Daredevil for it. What if he's doing something similar here,

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:03.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, like a good way to get rid of

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 1>people during the time that Ronan was active was like,

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:08.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, dressed like Ronan and kill a bunch of

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:09.680
<v Speaker 1>people and just blame it on that guy. They're never

0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 1>even catch him anyway, and if they do, let's put

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:15.080
<v Speaker 1>those bodies on him. Now, I think that that is fantastic.

0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:16.959
<v Speaker 1>And then you have I don't know if it would

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 1>be Bullseye or whatever, but you have already made person

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:23.480
<v Speaker 1>who has used a sword in this story already and

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 1>Jack Dukaine maybe it was Jack. Now the question, first

0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:29.759
<v Speaker 1>of all, what do you think of that? It kind

0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:34.200
<v Speaker 1>of undercuts the fact that Clint knew that the Ronan

0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:35.800
<v Speaker 1>hit the Tracksuits previously?

0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that does under well yeah yeah, it

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 2>better cuts it. But also is like, you know, this

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:47.560
<v Speaker 2>isn't the only faction of Tracksuits, right, They've probably got

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:51.200
<v Speaker 2>operations all over the city. It does like just thinking

0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:53.319
<v Speaker 2>like comic book or wise, like you know the big

0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:56.800
<v Speaker 2>bads so far like Echo and the Swordsman, but like

0:38:57.239 --> 0:38:59.120
<v Speaker 2>any true comic it has to have like you gotta

0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:00.759
<v Speaker 2>have like issue five or four is like when you

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:03.520
<v Speaker 2>see like who's really pulling the streams? It's Norman Osborne,

0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:06.279
<v Speaker 2>It's the Kingpin, It's Who's Instanos, it's whoever. And like

0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:08.799
<v Speaker 2>I feel like the big like the big splash page

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:11.000
<v Speaker 2>reveal on episode how many episodes are doing like six?

0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:13.680
<v Speaker 2>Maybe episode like six, episode five is like, oh shit,

0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:15.920
<v Speaker 2>that's the Kingpin. He's like, maybe he's not like the

0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:18.279
<v Speaker 2>Kingpin we're used to with, like the Daredevil.

0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:21.400
<v Speaker 1>A Kingpin on the come up yesh, yes, Like yeah.

0:39:21.239 --> 0:39:22.840
<v Speaker 2>He's got like a nice warehouse he's in, like you know,

0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:26.080
<v Speaker 2>buying million dollar art pieces for his jail French boo.

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:30.000
<v Speaker 2>But like I think I think that's the move because also,

0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 2>like I said, like all this stuff has been so grounded,

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:34.000
<v Speaker 2>like we know that Maya or Echo is getting like

0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:36.400
<v Speaker 2>a spin off show, and like it seems like Marvel

0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:39.000
<v Speaker 2>is taking the direction of doing like the street level stuff.

0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:41.040
<v Speaker 2>So like I imagine we're gonna see more of the

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 2>world of Like all right, if this is the Kingpin,

0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:46.400
<v Speaker 2>like all those other like Kingpin esque characters who are

0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 2>like they're Robin Banks, are like they're you know, extorting neighborhoods,

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:52.279
<v Speaker 2>They're not like, you know, getting six Infinity gauntlets to

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:54.560
<v Speaker 2>Jilly Jims like snap half the universe away.

0:39:55.480 --> 0:39:59.320
<v Speaker 1>I love that. So if the Kingpin is framing Ronin,

0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:02.040
<v Speaker 1>which feels like a very Kingpin thing to do, and

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 1>if in fact it is Jack, which maybe that's why

0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:07.320
<v Speaker 1>it's Jack, the question then becomes this, so the the

0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:10.040
<v Speaker 1>they're not going to do a fake costume because they

0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:12.000
<v Speaker 1>made such a big deal about Clint having to get

0:40:12.080 --> 0:40:13.640
<v Speaker 1>back the costume. If there were a bunch of fake

0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:18.719
<v Speaker 1>knockoff Ronan costumes out there, then it wouldn't work as

0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:20.279
<v Speaker 1>a story piece. Right, So there's got it, there's the

0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:26.680
<v Speaker 1>one costume. Does that mean that Duquine and whoever broke

0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:29.719
<v Speaker 1>into the Avengers compound stole the suit and then brought

0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:31.480
<v Speaker 1>it back? And that's where it was in the rubble

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Because I'm trying to figure out, like how the watch,

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:36.680
<v Speaker 1>which is the thing wanted like basically the thing they

0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:39.319
<v Speaker 1>were trying to get it seemed like the tracksuits. How

0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:41.840
<v Speaker 1>that plays into it? Is like did Jack break in?

0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:44.360
<v Speaker 1>He stole the suit, then he brought it back, and

0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:46.320
<v Speaker 1>while he's undressing, he like took his watch off to

0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:48.120
<v Speaker 1>like whatever, wash his hands.

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:52.279
<v Speaker 2>He just like left the watch. Yeah, it makes me. Yeah,

0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:53.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know if it's one of

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:55.359
<v Speaker 2>those things where like they just have some like low

0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:58.319
<v Speaker 2>upper state New York dude scavenged it and they got

0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:00.960
<v Speaker 2>into like the black markets. I have no idea. I

0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:02.440
<v Speaker 2>think I don't know if you're the one that tweeted this,

0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:04.360
<v Speaker 2>but like I think like the auction. They also are

0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:07.359
<v Speaker 2>like a dinosaur, a dinosaur skull, there's shortage, and was like, oh,

0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:09.680
<v Speaker 2>that's this is a Savage Land's confirmed. Like I don't

0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:11.080
<v Speaker 2>know if it's just like one of those things where

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:13.120
<v Speaker 2>like they have a group of weird guys that have

0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:15.160
<v Speaker 2>been picking up weird stuff all over the world. Yeah,

0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:17.560
<v Speaker 2>maybe you'll find a dinosaur skull. Also, we had this

0:41:17.640 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 2>dude upstate that went through the aftermath of the Avengers compound,

0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 2>like they found a watch, maybe there's a maybe there's

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:27.239
<v Speaker 2>an Ironman Suit eighty seven schematic and there, you don't know,

0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:29.360
<v Speaker 2>pay a bunch of money, we'll see what happens with it.

0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I do think that that's a Savage Land hit that's

0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:34.719
<v Speaker 1>too big, Like they know what whether it's Savage Land

0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:36.879
<v Speaker 1>or not. I'll just say that the people who make

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:40.799
<v Speaker 1>these shows are very very smart, Okay they and they

0:41:40.960 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 1>know that when they put a dinosaur skull in there,

0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 1>that you and I and everyone else are going to

0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:47.239
<v Speaker 1>be like, oh shit.

0:41:47.960 --> 0:41:49.520
<v Speaker 2>You can go to Google and see like the searches

0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:51.440
<v Speaker 2>for devil dinosaur spiking the day that is.

0:41:56.719 --> 0:41:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Let me throw another theory at you. I want to

0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:00.920
<v Speaker 1>also preface this by saying, list of my theories are

0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:04.360
<v Speaker 1>often wrong, but I love doing it and I'm not

0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:08.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna stop going in because I love doing it. That's

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:12.920
<v Speaker 1>that's why we're here. I feel like this ends with

0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:17.799
<v Speaker 1>Clint gets home. He's banged up, right, he can't really

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:20.560
<v Speaker 1>fight that well, and they think it's over. Clint got

0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:22.440
<v Speaker 1>home for Christmas. He's in a full body cast, but

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 1>he made it. And then we get that Jason Voor

0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:29.840
<v Speaker 1>He's coming out of the water camp Crystal Lake moment

0:42:29.920 --> 0:42:31.800
<v Speaker 1>where you thought it was over, but no, it's not

0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:34.839
<v Speaker 1>over because now the bad guys are here. They're going

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:37.759
<v Speaker 1>to attack him on the farm. That means Laura's got

0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:40.400
<v Speaker 1>to suit up. She's got to put the Bobby Morrise

0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Mockingbirds suit back on. And then my Lopez, we assume

0:42:44.400 --> 0:42:46.680
<v Speaker 1>is switch side by this time, has got to help out.

0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:50.359
<v Speaker 1>And you know, maybe Yolena, who we know is going

0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:51.759
<v Speaker 1>to be in this, has got to help out. And

0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:54.320
<v Speaker 1>now it's like a big fight on Clint's farm with

0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:57.239
<v Speaker 1>Clint in a you know, fully laid up, just like

0:42:57.400 --> 0:42:58.719
<v Speaker 1>watching from the sidelines.

0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 2>That's so I completely forgot that they said that Elena's

0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:05.560
<v Speaker 2>going to be in this, Like like yeah, yeah, but

0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:07.800
<v Speaker 2>that that sounds like a fun theory. Like I'm like,

0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:10.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean all these I mean Marvel movies are notorious

0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:12.759
<v Speaker 2>for the third act fight. Like that's that's what people

0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:14.960
<v Speaker 2>show up for, you know, like every commo. I want

0:43:14.960 --> 0:43:18.879
<v Speaker 2>to have the double spread, the double page splash. Yeah, yeah,

0:43:18.880 --> 0:43:20.560
<v Speaker 2>I could see like there's some type of assault on

0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:22.839
<v Speaker 2>the farm, just because like you want to see, yeah,

0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 2>like you want to get the cool shot of like

0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:26.239
<v Speaker 2>both Hawkeyes shooting their thing, or if you want to

0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:29.120
<v Speaker 2>see mocking Bird in like Kate Bishop Hawkeye kicking some

0:43:29.239 --> 0:43:31.919
<v Speaker 2>ass with with echo, Like I'd buy that. What I said,

0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:32.560
<v Speaker 2>I would love to see that.

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:35.880
<v Speaker 1>What's your what's your favorite double page spread?

0:43:36.200 --> 0:43:39.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh boy, that's man, That's that's a hard question.

0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:44.479
<v Speaker 2>I'll say this is I think this is a double

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:47.200
<v Speaker 2>page spread. I can't remember correctly, but there's an amazing Spider.

0:43:46.960 --> 0:43:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Man where it's like splash or a double page, it

0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:50.560
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter, Like, yeah, whatever.

0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:52.279
<v Speaker 2>I would do the splash. It's one of my favorite splash.

0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:55.480
<v Speaker 2>It's a it's a Spider Man like going throughout the citium,

0:43:55.480 --> 0:43:56.600
<v Speaker 2>like one of the tropes or like one of the

0:43:56.640 --> 0:43:59.280
<v Speaker 2>classic things that Spider Man is like to show characters agility.

0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:01.759
<v Speaker 2>They'll show like ghost images of him and him like

0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:03.759
<v Speaker 2>a high rise, he jumps off a water tower like

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 2>swips around like a flagpole, bounces off, and like he

0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:08.360
<v Speaker 2>comes out of the frame with that. I just like

0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:12.000
<v Speaker 2>those are like my absolute favorite types of splashes, and

0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:14.760
<v Speaker 2>like that one has been burned into my my skull forever.

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:15.640
<v Speaker 1>That.

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:20.160
<v Speaker 2>Then there's one like Avengers, the one where they assault

0:44:20.239 --> 0:44:22.880
<v Speaker 2>the base. I think siege. I think it's what it

0:44:23.000 --> 0:44:26.400
<v Speaker 2>was called. But like this' one where like like the

0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 2>Wasp was just like sunbathing and like a helicopter peers

0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:31.840
<v Speaker 2>and then like Captain America, like does it doesn't slip?

0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he dives down and slips. It does like a summersault.

0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:37.680
<v Speaker 2>Like bro, you could just like the doors open, you

0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 2>could just walk in, but if you want to flec Yeah,

0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:41.600
<v Speaker 2>that's not steels.

0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:45.040
<v Speaker 1>That that is a uh yeah, that's the Rogers Stern

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:48.440
<v Speaker 1>siege storyline, under Siege, under stage. It's like fantastic my

0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:53.399
<v Speaker 1>favorite splash. I mean, it's gotta be Kitty Pride, oh,

0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:56.719
<v Speaker 1>Professor Xaviers or jerk. It is one of the great

0:44:56.800 --> 0:45:00.440
<v Speaker 1>openings in comics history. And then I think I love

0:45:00.520 --> 0:45:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Hitch Brian Hitch and his work in Ultimates one and two.

0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:08.759
<v Speaker 1>There's some I mean that stuff is like blow it up,

0:45:08.800 --> 0:45:10.320
<v Speaker 1>put it on your wall, and just start at it

0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:14.320
<v Speaker 1>forever under the black light. There's a couple splait double

0:45:14.360 --> 0:45:20.279
<v Speaker 1>page spreads in there, particularly Ultimates too, where it's like

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:26.600
<v Speaker 1>they're all in action fighting these crazy like demons in

0:45:26.719 --> 0:45:33.239
<v Speaker 1>DC and the level of detail is like it's just

0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:38.279
<v Speaker 1>an ocean of demons. They're fighting them, and you look

0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:43.640
<v Speaker 1>and it's Quicksilver is zipping throughout the picture, like from

0:45:43.680 --> 0:45:47.560
<v Speaker 1>the top to the bottom, doing different things every every way,

0:45:47.960 --> 0:45:53.200
<v Speaker 1>like Hawkeye is shooting arrows. It's really cool, really cool.

0:45:53.719 --> 0:45:55.480
<v Speaker 1>One of my favorites ever, just like one of the

0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:57.080
<v Speaker 1>things you can fall into a little bit of a

0:45:57.160 --> 0:46:02.319
<v Speaker 1>problematic comic listener.

0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:02.080
<v Speaker 2>But like that is definitely comic that maybe like, oh,

0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:05.840
<v Speaker 2>I think I like Captain America, Like he's kind of interesting.

0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:06.960
<v Speaker 2>All right, cool, let's let's do.

0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:10.560
<v Speaker 1>This listen again. Great episode. I can't wait for episode

0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:12.680
<v Speaker 1>four or any any theories that you have, any predictions

0:46:12.719 --> 0:46:13.200
<v Speaker 1>do you want to make?

0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:15.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, I feel like we're really I mean, this

0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:18.319
<v Speaker 2>was like the big fun comic booking one I think

0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:20.480
<v Speaker 2>episode four is probably gonna be a little bit more

0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:23.560
<v Speaker 2>like expo, like this is why things are happening. We'll

0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:27.040
<v Speaker 2>probably get a fun set piece. I'm thinking, like mad

0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:29.600
<v Speaker 2>As you mentioned that Black Widow or Yolana black Widow

0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:30.920
<v Speaker 2>is going to be and I think we might get

0:46:31.000 --> 0:46:33.719
<v Speaker 2>like the first tease that like is black widowed or

0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:38.040
<v Speaker 2>is she like being directed by by by I guess

0:46:38.120 --> 0:46:40.359
<v Speaker 2>this version of what the Thunderbolts will be. Is there

0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:43.120
<v Speaker 2>going to be a Thunderbolts teasing this like I'm hoping.

0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:45.760
<v Speaker 2>I think it will get like a bigger a bigger

0:46:45.800 --> 0:46:47.960
<v Speaker 2>worldview like the the We'll get like a twenty thousand

0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:50.799
<v Speaker 2>foot view of like the street level stuff in episode four.

0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:53.279
<v Speaker 1>Obviously a lot of Daredevil hints as well. Yeah, whenever

0:46:53.360 --> 0:46:56.000
<v Speaker 1>the Kingpin is if you're thinking Kimpin's got to be there,

0:46:56.239 --> 0:46:59.080
<v Speaker 1>his number one foil has always been dared Owlil do

0:46:59.200 --> 0:47:01.640
<v Speaker 1>we get. I think we get some sort of like

0:47:02.239 --> 0:47:06.320
<v Speaker 1>we see like Nelson and Murdoch, like like ad or

0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:09.239
<v Speaker 1>something or a sticker, or we maybe a mention of

0:47:09.360 --> 0:47:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Matt Murdoch as a lawyer. I don't I don't think

0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:15.319
<v Speaker 1>we see Daredevil in this. I think maybe we get

0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:15.799
<v Speaker 1>a mention.

0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I was just gonna say, like, there's no

0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:21.320
<v Speaker 2>way though they'll they would drop Daredevil in like a

0:47:21.360 --> 0:47:24.120
<v Speaker 2>TV show that I remembers, like they had Jonathan Major's.

0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:28.560
<v Speaker 1>In Loki, Like, yeah, right, the rules are whatever they want.

0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:32.040
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. I feel the same with you.

0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:34.040
<v Speaker 1>It feels like they wouldn't do it, but maybe they

0:47:34.080 --> 0:47:37.560
<v Speaker 1>would know a lot of people are theorizing, Oh, like Daredevil,

0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:39.560
<v Speaker 1>they'll bring him over in no way home, maybe from

0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:42.520
<v Speaker 1>another dimension like the Netflix dimension. Yeah, that could be.

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:46.600
<v Speaker 1>And here's my my only note on why maybe that

0:47:46.800 --> 0:47:50.759
<v Speaker 1>couldn't be the case is Matt Listen A big part

0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:53.800
<v Speaker 1>of his identities he's a practicing lawyer. He's, you know,

0:47:54.040 --> 0:47:56.080
<v Speaker 1>out there fighting in the courts for the little guy

0:47:56.160 --> 0:48:00.200
<v Speaker 1>all the time. And I don't think his Earth four

0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:05.680
<v Speaker 1>twenty law degree it's gonna work. It's gonna work in

0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:07.680
<v Speaker 1>this Earth. I may be wrong. I don't know how

0:48:07.760 --> 0:48:10.600
<v Speaker 1>it works if you get a law degree in another dimension?

0:48:10.880 --> 0:48:13.040
<v Speaker 2>It does it? Does it transfer?

0:48:13.920 --> 0:48:16.319
<v Speaker 1>Like does your cell phone and your driver's licenes all

0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:18.560
<v Speaker 1>that stuff work? You'r atm Yeah, Yeah, I'm just I

0:48:18.600 --> 0:48:22.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know. It feels like it wouldn't work.

0:48:22.760 --> 0:48:25.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's ever a Devil TV show that the first

0:48:25.920 --> 0:48:27.960
<v Speaker 2>season would just be about getting around the hurdles of

0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:31.360
<v Speaker 2>interdimensional in universal law practices.

0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're like on the phone with the I R S.

0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:36.160
<v Speaker 1>It's like push for if you were recently brought over

0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:45.239
<v Speaker 1>to this dimension from another dimension. Uh shit, awesome, this

0:48:45.400 --> 0:48:45.680
<v Speaker 1>is fun.

0:48:45.840 --> 0:48:48.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, always a blast up next to the omnibus.

0:49:03.440 --> 0:49:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Huh bad buzz what you want? What you're gonna do

0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:11.919
<v Speaker 1>when the Ron incomes and kills your dad? We're talking

0:49:11.920 --> 0:49:17.279
<v Speaker 1>about crime, folks. With all the speculation about Uncle and

0:49:17.360 --> 0:49:19.680
<v Speaker 1>about whether this character is in fact Wilson Fisk, the

0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Kingpin of Crime and Marvel Comics Fame and Daredevil on

0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Netflix Fame, it feels like the perfect time to do

0:49:26.400 --> 0:49:31.080
<v Speaker 1>a kind of cursory overview of the worlds of organized

0:49:31.080 --> 0:49:35.040
<v Speaker 1>crime within Marvel Comics canon. Now quick note, a criminal

0:49:35.160 --> 0:49:38.200
<v Speaker 1>a criminality in the context of the Marvel universe was

0:49:38.280 --> 0:49:42.680
<v Speaker 1>the comics and the MCU doesn't necessarily mean villain. Right

0:49:43.160 --> 0:49:46.200
<v Speaker 1>In the real world, of course, legality and morality are

0:49:46.360 --> 0:49:48.680
<v Speaker 1>often mutually exclusive, and we could point to any number

0:49:48.760 --> 0:49:52.880
<v Speaker 1>of horrific things slavery, for instance, that were one hundred

0:49:52.960 --> 0:49:56.160
<v Speaker 1>percent legal, not illegal. That's in the real world. In

0:49:56.200 --> 0:50:00.400
<v Speaker 1>the Marvel universe, the only heroic use of power, right,

0:50:00.440 --> 0:50:02.400
<v Speaker 1>because we're talking about a world in which both the

0:50:02.560 --> 0:50:07.160
<v Speaker 1>supervillains and the superheroes have incredible powers, the only heroic

0:50:07.320 --> 0:50:12.240
<v Speaker 1>use of power is the protection of the powerless. Legally speaking,

0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:15.840
<v Speaker 1>superheroes break the law all the time, Like if we

0:50:15.880 --> 0:50:20.280
<v Speaker 1>look at the MCU in Ironman, the movie Ironman, Tony

0:50:20.320 --> 0:50:24.120
<v Speaker 1>Stark invades a sovereign country or several of the airspace

0:50:24.200 --> 0:50:27.839
<v Speaker 1>of maybe several sovereign countries to carry it out an

0:50:28.040 --> 0:50:32.080
<v Speaker 1>unsanctioned attack. That's probably a declaration of war. If who

0:50:32.160 --> 0:50:36.640
<v Speaker 1>was in the real world using unlicensed advanced weaponry killing

0:50:36.800 --> 0:50:40.040
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people, Yes, they're terrorists to save the

0:50:40.120 --> 0:50:42.640
<v Speaker 1>lives of the local townsfolk and civil War Captain America

0:50:42.760 --> 0:50:46.440
<v Speaker 1>and his insurgents are actively thumbing their nose at the

0:50:46.520 --> 0:50:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Cecovia Cords, which were agreed upon by many, many, many

0:50:51.239 --> 0:50:54.440
<v Speaker 1>nations in the un Black Widow, of course, has never

0:50:54.600 --> 0:50:58.000
<v Speaker 1>traveled without several forged passports. I don't think those are

0:50:58.040 --> 0:51:00.680
<v Speaker 1>on the up and up. Peter Parker law to drone

0:51:00.719 --> 0:51:05.720
<v Speaker 1>strike on his fucking students's fellow classmates Vision and Scarlet,

0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:09.640
<v Speaker 1>which were fugitives. Bruce Banner destroyed Harlem and an entire

0:51:09.760 --> 0:51:13.719
<v Speaker 1>university building. Kate Bishop hacked into the cellular networks to

0:51:13.880 --> 0:51:15.880
<v Speaker 1>locate Clint's phone and blew up a van. We can

0:51:15.920 --> 0:51:18.600
<v Speaker 1>go on on on and on in this context, right,

0:51:19.080 --> 0:51:22.680
<v Speaker 1>superheroes are kind of like the post war evolution of

0:51:23.360 --> 0:51:26.640
<v Speaker 1>the bandit trope, the bandit character, the best example of

0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:29.320
<v Speaker 1>which being Robin Hood who stole from the rich and

0:51:29.360 --> 0:51:32.759
<v Speaker 1>gapes to the poor. And will dive deeper into that

0:51:33.120 --> 0:51:35.279
<v Speaker 1>idea and that topic when we take a deeper look

0:51:35.320 --> 0:51:38.120
<v Speaker 1>at Clinton Barton himself later on in the series, when

0:51:38.600 --> 0:51:42.520
<v Speaker 1>doing so wouldn't spoil any potential reveals about learning about

0:51:42.520 --> 0:51:46.440
<v Speaker 1>Clint's backstory within the MCU. So, in the context of Marvel,

0:51:47.280 --> 0:51:51.279
<v Speaker 1>what does criminal mean then, if even the heroes are

0:51:51.400 --> 0:51:54.239
<v Speaker 1>constantly breaking the law and are in fact, you know,

0:51:54.280 --> 0:51:56.520
<v Speaker 1>if you want to be technical about it, criminals. It

0:51:56.719 --> 0:52:00.800
<v Speaker 1>means any person or group motivated by the pursuit of

0:52:00.840 --> 0:52:06.319
<v Speaker 1>wealth and power, mostly wealth, though for its own sake, right,

0:52:06.760 --> 0:52:12.560
<v Speaker 1>what separates Tony Stark from Obadias day Arnie is Tony

0:52:12.640 --> 0:52:15.120
<v Speaker 1>wants to use his wealth to make suits of armor

0:52:15.239 --> 0:52:19.680
<v Speaker 1>to defend an avenge the powerless, while Obadiastin wants to

0:52:19.680 --> 0:52:21.200
<v Speaker 1>make a bunch of suits to make a bunch of money.

0:52:21.320 --> 0:52:21.440
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:52:21.880 --> 0:52:27.719
<v Speaker 1>The Vulture had some pretty trenchant critiques of the MCU's

0:52:27.840 --> 0:52:33.000
<v Speaker 1>version of capitalism and Spider Man Homecoming, And he was

0:52:33.080 --> 0:52:35.200
<v Speaker 1>at one point, you know, just like a struggling small

0:52:35.239 --> 0:52:38.120
<v Speaker 1>business owner, blue collar guye And in the end he

0:52:38.200 --> 0:52:40.840
<v Speaker 1>had millions of dollars, He had a nice house, he

0:52:40.920 --> 0:52:42.680
<v Speaker 1>had a nice car. He wanted to continue to do that.

0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:44.440
<v Speaker 1>He wanted to send his daughter to a great school

0:52:44.480 --> 0:52:48.200
<v Speaker 1>while having millions of dollars left over. Right, So let's

0:52:48.200 --> 0:52:51.200
<v Speaker 1>start our quick overview of organized crime with the Tracksuit Mafia.

0:52:51.800 --> 0:52:55.320
<v Speaker 1>They debuted in Matt Fraction and David Aya's character to

0:52:55.320 --> 0:53:00.279
<v Speaker 1>defining Hawkeye series, and they're essentially a very very low

0:53:00.360 --> 0:53:02.680
<v Speaker 1>level street gang who all wear track suits, of course,

0:53:03.160 --> 0:53:07.680
<v Speaker 1>made up of Eastern European guys, and they engage in

0:53:08.160 --> 0:53:11.480
<v Speaker 1>mainly street level stuff, you know, extortion, beating people up,

0:53:11.560 --> 0:53:15.399
<v Speaker 1>slum lord activities, shakedowns, and so on. Probably the first

0:53:15.600 --> 0:53:19.320
<v Speaker 1>organized crime group in the Marvel universe was the Maggia,

0:53:20.120 --> 0:53:23.680
<v Speaker 1>who are an Italian mob with various international rackets and

0:53:24.080 --> 0:53:26.600
<v Speaker 1>of course a strong presence in the United States, particularly

0:53:26.640 --> 0:53:31.640
<v Speaker 1>New York City. They are a group who were founded

0:53:31.719 --> 0:53:36.440
<v Speaker 1>by cult members cultists who worship the demon Sitanish, who

0:53:36.520 --> 0:53:40.080
<v Speaker 1>is a creation of the dread Dormamu Dormamu. I've come

0:53:40.200 --> 0:53:43.680
<v Speaker 1>to bargain. They are clearly the Maggia based on the

0:53:43.760 --> 0:53:47.719
<v Speaker 1>real life Italian mafia. They have a commission of bosses

0:53:47.840 --> 0:53:52.480
<v Speaker 1>who manage the direction of the organization. They prize and

0:53:52.640 --> 0:53:56.920
<v Speaker 1>value pure Italian bloodlines, and they are involved in traditional

0:53:57.440 --> 0:54:01.280
<v Speaker 1>real life mafia activities narcotic sec traffic and gambling, loan sharking,

0:54:01.719 --> 0:54:05.480
<v Speaker 1>and so on. Their primary rival in Marvel comics is

0:54:06.040 --> 0:54:12.319
<v Speaker 1>the Fisk Organization, the crime syndicate of the absolutely enormous big, big,

0:54:12.480 --> 0:54:17.200
<v Speaker 1>big Boy, big Daddy, diabolical guy Wilson Fisk, the kingpin

0:54:17.320 --> 0:54:21.520
<v Speaker 1>of crime. Kingpin is in the comics is just like

0:54:21.719 --> 0:54:27.239
<v Speaker 1>he's not superpowered, but he is huge and really really

0:54:27.320 --> 0:54:31.680
<v Speaker 1>really strong. Anyway. In the comics, Fisk, you know, rises

0:54:31.760 --> 0:54:35.760
<v Speaker 1>from kind of obscure beginnings to in a brutal fashion

0:54:35.920 --> 0:54:39.239
<v Speaker 1>subdue the various crime families that are operating in New

0:54:39.320 --> 0:54:45.400
<v Speaker 1>York forging them to get into you know, one highly centralized,

0:54:45.719 --> 0:54:52.960
<v Speaker 1>ruthless organization which spans both criminal and legitimate enterprises. So

0:54:53.320 --> 0:54:56.160
<v Speaker 1>what does that mean. In addition to stuff like you know,

0:54:56.360 --> 0:55:00.839
<v Speaker 1>arms dealing, human trafficking, narcotics, gambling, etc. The Kingpin also

0:55:01.000 --> 0:55:06.200
<v Speaker 1>runs his legitimate business arm called Fisk Industries, which does

0:55:06.239 --> 0:55:11.720
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of legitimate stuff, including owning a fifty percent

0:55:11.800 --> 0:55:15.839
<v Speaker 1>stake in the company Damage Control with Tony Stark. Tony

0:55:15.920 --> 0:55:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Stark owns the other fifty percent of Damage Control. Yes,

0:55:20.320 --> 0:55:25.240
<v Speaker 1>that's right. In the comics, Tony willingly became a business

0:55:25.360 --> 0:55:28.160
<v Speaker 1>partner of the Kingpin of crime, Wilson Fisk. Tony, what

0:55:28.320 --> 0:55:31.200
<v Speaker 1>the fuck are you doing now? Damage Control? You may know.

0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Damage Control is a company that basically goes in and

0:55:35.640 --> 0:55:39.320
<v Speaker 1>does salvage and construction work after these big superhero battles

0:55:39.360 --> 0:55:42.960
<v Speaker 1>take place. So the Chaitari attack New York City, damage

0:55:43.000 --> 0:55:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Control comes in and they clean everything up, and they

0:55:45.840 --> 0:55:49.239
<v Speaker 1>salvage all the Chatari weaponry and they ship it off

0:55:49.360 --> 0:55:53.319
<v Speaker 1>to ostensibly the government, but as we've seen, who really knows.

0:55:53.960 --> 0:55:57.080
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, great racket for Tony Stark, who

0:55:57.200 --> 0:55:59.880
<v Speaker 1>on the one hand, is taking part as Iron Man

0:56:00.160 --> 0:56:04.080
<v Speaker 1>in these battles, causing some of this damage, and on

0:56:04.200 --> 0:56:07.719
<v Speaker 1>the other end of that is then profiting from the

0:56:07.800 --> 0:56:11.239
<v Speaker 1>cleaning up of the mess that he helped make great

0:56:11.280 --> 0:56:14.760
<v Speaker 1>shit from Tony Stark, a true genius and a pioneer. Kingpinn,

0:56:14.840 --> 0:56:19.080
<v Speaker 1>of course, is the primary antagonist for many notable street

0:56:19.120 --> 0:56:22.800
<v Speaker 1>level New York City based heroes, including Spider Man, Punisher,

0:56:22.920 --> 0:56:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Luke Cage, an Iron Fist, and in particular, Daredevil. Daredevil

0:56:26.719 --> 0:56:30.759
<v Speaker 1>is his number one foil. Another syndicate with connections in

0:56:30.840 --> 0:56:34.200
<v Speaker 1>the comics to Daredevil and Myo Lopez is The Hand.

0:56:34.880 --> 0:56:39.600
<v Speaker 1>The Hand is a quasi religious cabal of ninjas with

0:56:39.880 --> 0:56:45.040
<v Speaker 1>roots that go back centuries. Matt Murdoch's college girlfriend, Electra,

0:56:45.560 --> 0:56:50.000
<v Speaker 1>a Greek national who Matt met on campus, was once

0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:52.480
<v Speaker 1>part of and then a target of the Hand, and

0:56:52.600 --> 0:56:55.719
<v Speaker 1>that brings Matt into conflict with them. In writer Brian

0:56:55.760 --> 0:56:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Michael Bendis and artist David Finch's New Avengers run, the

0:56:59.320 --> 0:57:04.319
<v Speaker 1>Ronan is recommended by Daredevil to Captain America, who then

0:57:04.840 --> 0:57:07.200
<v Speaker 1>recommends Ronan to the New Avengers, who are heading to

0:57:07.280 --> 0:57:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Japan to do a mission. They're like, here, I've got

0:57:09.239 --> 0:57:12.640
<v Speaker 1>somebody recommended to me by Matt Murdock. It's this shadowy person.

0:57:12.719 --> 0:57:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know who it is, but they call themselves

0:57:14.520 --> 0:57:16.360
<v Speaker 1>the Ronan, dressed all in black, and they're really good.

0:57:16.400 --> 0:57:18.040
<v Speaker 1>They know about the Hand, they know how to fight them.

0:57:18.600 --> 0:57:21.040
<v Speaker 1>So Ronan goes over helps them out. They fight the

0:57:21.120 --> 0:57:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Hand and Hydra and then eventually that person on masks

0:57:25.000 --> 0:57:27.120
<v Speaker 1>and we discover that the Ronan is in fact my

0:57:27.280 --> 0:57:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Lopez Bomb Bomb Bomb. And finally, speaking of criminal enterprises

0:57:33.680 --> 0:57:37.800
<v Speaker 1>run by demons, there is the Roxon Corporation, a too

0:57:37.840 --> 0:57:40.800
<v Speaker 1>big to fail energy conglomerate and one of the largest

0:57:40.840 --> 0:57:43.720
<v Speaker 1>corporations in the Marvel universe. Rocks On began as your

0:57:43.800 --> 0:57:48.320
<v Speaker 1>standard you know, like oil and natural gas business, but evil,

0:57:48.440 --> 0:57:51.600
<v Speaker 1>but even more evil than like in real life. Rox

0:57:51.720 --> 0:57:54.520
<v Speaker 1>On provided some of the funds, some of the early

0:57:54.560 --> 0:57:58.040
<v Speaker 1>funds that helped launch Shield. They have mined for energy

0:57:58.160 --> 0:58:01.880
<v Speaker 1>sources on you know everyone when are on Earth strip

0:58:01.960 --> 0:58:04.720
<v Speaker 1>mining as well. They're not just doing oil and natural gas,

0:58:04.720 --> 0:58:06.800
<v Speaker 1>they're doing any kind of energy source, any kind of

0:58:06.920 --> 0:58:11.280
<v Speaker 1>rare material, any kind of mineral, All of that stuff

0:58:11.320 --> 0:58:13.440
<v Speaker 1>they do. And so they have done that also in

0:58:13.520 --> 0:58:16.959
<v Speaker 1>the Sabage Land where they strip mined for vibranium, among

0:58:17.000 --> 0:58:19.840
<v Speaker 1>other things. They've done it on Mars, and under the

0:58:19.920 --> 0:58:25.080
<v Speaker 1>leadership of CEO Dario Ager, who is secretly the magical

0:58:25.200 --> 0:58:29.320
<v Speaker 1>Minotaur of Legend and in alliance with Malachis, the Accursed,

0:58:29.880 --> 0:58:35.360
<v Speaker 1>a big bad of thor Roxon went on to exploit

0:58:35.960 --> 0:58:40.280
<v Speaker 1>the natural resources of the various realms that Malachith would conquer.

0:58:40.360 --> 0:58:43.200
<v Speaker 1>So Malachis like, Hey, I'm about to conquer the Ten Realms.

0:58:43.240 --> 0:58:46.200
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be fucking awesome. Dario or Ager, if

0:58:46.240 --> 0:58:47.720
<v Speaker 1>you want to get in on this, There's a bunch

0:58:47.760 --> 0:58:50.360
<v Speaker 1>of rare materials on there that I think would be

0:58:50.520 --> 0:58:54.000
<v Speaker 1>really profitable. You can come to any of the various

0:58:54.040 --> 0:58:56.520
<v Speaker 1>ten Realms after I conquer them and just like strip

0:58:56.600 --> 0:58:58.800
<v Speaker 1>mind to your heart's content. And Dario is like, yes,

0:59:00.000 --> 0:59:03.360
<v Speaker 1>it's criminality, an organized crime in the Marvel universe. Up

0:59:03.400 --> 0:59:21.160
<v Speaker 1>next to the endgame. You could not live with your

0:59:21.200 --> 0:59:25.760
<v Speaker 1>turkey hangover. So where did that bring you back to

0:59:25.920 --> 0:59:27.120
<v Speaker 1>us in the endgame?

0:59:27.280 --> 0:59:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Now?

0:59:27.680 --> 0:59:30.360
<v Speaker 1>Today we were playing another round of Assembly Required, in

0:59:30.440 --> 0:59:33.080
<v Speaker 1>which Sing and I will pick a character or item

0:59:33.480 --> 0:59:36.600
<v Speaker 1>from episodes two or three from Hawkeye for a randomly

0:59:36.680 --> 0:59:40.080
<v Speaker 1>assigned mundane mission. Chris, what is the mission today?

0:59:40.480 --> 0:59:40.840
<v Speaker 2>All right?

0:59:40.920 --> 0:59:43.760
<v Speaker 4>So, in honor of the sweet driving skills of Clinton

0:59:43.800 --> 0:59:46.360
<v Speaker 4>Barton this week, You guys, man, is you have to

0:59:46.640 --> 0:59:49.720
<v Speaker 4>pick someone from these episodes to take you to lax

0:59:50.240 --> 0:59:53.080
<v Speaker 4>like you know, so let's say east Side's lax rush

0:59:53.120 --> 0:59:54.960
<v Speaker 4>hour traffic, your flights in an hour.

0:59:55.440 --> 0:59:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Who are you picking to get you there on timely?

0:59:58.240 --> 0:59:58.479
<v Speaker 2>Boy?

0:59:59.720 --> 1:00:01.280
<v Speaker 1>I think he went first last time, so I'll go

1:00:01.320 --> 1:00:03.400
<v Speaker 1>first this time. Yeah, I'll tell you who it's not

1:00:03.520 --> 1:00:05.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna be. It's not gonna be Enrique because this guy's

1:00:05.560 --> 1:00:08.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna fucking bend my ear off the whole time I'm

1:00:09.040 --> 1:00:11.160
<v Speaker 1>on my phone trying to like check into my flight,

1:00:11.320 --> 1:00:14.320
<v Speaker 1>trying to like text people last minute stuff. I don't

1:00:14.360 --> 1:00:17.280
<v Speaker 1>need Enrique like giving me his whole life story and

1:00:17.400 --> 1:00:21.840
<v Speaker 1>the all of that. I am gonna go with. Gosh,

1:00:22.400 --> 1:00:27.600
<v Speaker 1>you know what, he's a criminal, okay, but Kazzi seems

1:00:27.640 --> 1:00:31.880
<v Speaker 1>like a real stand up dude and m I understand

1:00:31.920 --> 1:00:35.240
<v Speaker 1>that their affront trust to Brow is a front, but

1:00:35.960 --> 1:00:39.320
<v Speaker 1>they got to drive those trucks, and that suggests to

1:00:39.480 --> 1:00:45.720
<v Speaker 1>me that Kazie and the other tracksuit fellas are you know,

1:00:45.880 --> 1:00:50.040
<v Speaker 1>responsible good drivers with like a Class B license whatever

1:00:50.120 --> 1:00:52.640
<v Speaker 1>you need to drive one of those. So I'm gonna

1:00:52.640 --> 1:00:56.440
<v Speaker 1>go Kazi from the tracksuit Mavia. Who are you gonna pick?

1:00:57.160 --> 1:01:01.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go with uh King's meaty left hand. I

1:01:01.840 --> 1:01:03.680
<v Speaker 2>think if you you throw that thing out of a

1:01:03.760 --> 1:01:06.440
<v Speaker 2>window and you do this, the traffic is parting. You

1:01:06.560 --> 1:01:08.440
<v Speaker 2>throw your hand up, You're getting you know, taxi is

1:01:08.480 --> 1:01:10.480
<v Speaker 2>not gonna stop if you throw that big meaty paul up.

1:01:10.560 --> 1:01:12.640
<v Speaker 2>So I think there's a real good answer. There's a

1:01:12.680 --> 1:01:14.520
<v Speaker 2>real good way that can make clear the lanes for

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<v Speaker 2>myself and also a hell of taxi if I need to.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Wilson fizz cars, just get out of the way. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's coming through. That's it for the endgame. Who

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<v Speaker 1>do you think one? And who would you pick to

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<v Speaker 1>take you to lax? Hit hashtag xr N game and

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<v Speaker 1>give us your pick. Big thanks to the number one

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<v Speaker 1>bro Cody Ziggler for joining us on x ray vision. Cody,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you have to plug? Where can people find you?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what? If you find me on social media's

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<v Speaker 2>at yafer Zig. If you love listening to nerdy podcast

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<v Speaker 2>like this one, check out the dark We podcast. I

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<v Speaker 2>hope Yeah, my boy Bertie Reid. We talk about almost

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<v Speaker 2>the exact same thing, only we say the N word

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<v Speaker 2>way more because we're where we both got the cars

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<v Speaker 2>and we can say it yeah. And you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to check out some like other like Street

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<v Speaker 2>Level comics, definitely check out ma Wad's Daredevil run like

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's really great. It's sort of the same way

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<v Speaker 2>that that Factionauja have re sort of reinvented the New Hawkeye.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great way that reinmit the Daredevil and amazing

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<v Speaker 2>Spider Man's seventy nine and eighty Baby they drive pick

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<v Speaker 2>it up Baby Beyond.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's really great and what a fun arc that's been.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks man.

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<v Speaker 3>See you next Time, Full Things, Full Time must say,

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<v Speaker 3>oh Zi wolves in my head, that's my favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>One kid.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't like that one believe buys the dragons. The

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<v Speaker 3>imagined dragons are fantastic. You have to know, okay,