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Speaker 1: a Year. Warning. This episode contains spoilers for Hawkeye episodes

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Speaker 1: two and three, as well as a lot of informed

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Speaker 1: you haven't seen episode three of Hawkey, which is fantastic,

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Speaker 1: watch it now before you listen to this. Hello, my

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Speaker 1: name is Jason and Stepsio and welcome to x Ravision,

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Speaker 1: The Crooked Podcast, where we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics,

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Speaker 1: and pop culture and more. In today's episode, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be recapping and talking about episodes two and the excellent

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Speaker 1: third episode of the show Hawkeye with our good friend

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Speaker 1: organized crime in Marvel Comics. In the end game, yet

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Speaker 1: another game of assembly required. Let's go. Let's start with

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Speaker 1: episode two of Hawkeye hide and Seek, director by Rhys Thomas,

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Speaker 1: written by Eliza Clement. It opens right on the heels

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Speaker 1: of episode one. Clint drags Kate Bishop, who had recently

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Speaker 2: Girl too happy to be in the superhero life.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Kate naturally is you know, a little discombobulated. She

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Speaker 1: Yes, And now she is meeting her hero, you know,

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Speaker 1: a little shady place. I beat up a bunch of

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Speaker 1: mafia guys. And by the way, you're my favorite adventure,

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Speaker 1: she insists. Listen, nobody, I don't worry about anybody tracking

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Speaker 1: I got it, I got it, got and Clint is like, okay, listen,

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Speaker 2: I want to go into it, but there's a history there.

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Speaker 1: About in the history like it goes back to the snap.

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Speaker 1: Ultimate Marvel, Clinton Barton kills like a bunch of batties

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Speaker 1: You. There's no backups, no deletes. He ends up right

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Speaker 1: LARPing event. Shortly, Clinton Kate watch a New York One

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Speaker 1: Haley and Renner are wonderful together, but here in a

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Speaker 1: He keeps a deep inside and in fact, he's like

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Speaker 1: Kate to dinner. Later at the penthouse, Jack is cooking.

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Speaker 1: He has to take an embarrassing l to grills in

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Speaker 1: not going to do that today. Clint tells Laura the

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Speaker 1: Laura has been in that life.

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Speaker 1: and Clint's like, but listen, don't worry. I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: home for Christmas. And Laura's like, what's the play? Which

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Speaker 1: again more about it. Clint is like, I'm gonna do

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Speaker 1: catch and release, which is a NAT's favorite. Laura not.

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Speaker 1: It's when we meet Nataja Romanov in Marvels The Avengers.

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Speaker 1: She is in the midst of a catch and release

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Speaker 1: with the Russian guys. Uh. So. Over to Eleanor's Jax

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Speaker 1: Risotto's apparently wonderful. I love to try it. Do you

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Speaker 1: ever Rosta? Do you have a Resolta recipe?

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Speaker 2: if you have to agitate, It's like, maybe that's the key.

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Speaker 2: I got to talk some shit to it, you know,

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Speaker 1: Beat h Well, Kate listen is again. He loves to agitate,

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Speaker 1: and and you know, knows that she knows something and

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Speaker 1: up on the Williamsburg Bridge where Clinton Kate use a

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Speaker 1: regular arrow plus a pim arrow to definitively end the chase,

427
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: and then with bullets whizzing at them. They dive off

428
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: the side of the bridge, use a grappling hook, swing

429
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: onto the top of a train that's running along the

430
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 1: lower deck, which is a really cool moment because we

431
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: remember Kate's first glimpse of Hawkeye was him diving off

432
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 1: the roof during the chitary attack, so here she gets

433
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 1: to do it with her hero, which is awesome. Clint

434
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: tells Kate, hey, his tranade, by the way, gone right now,

435
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: So it's a one way conversation to an extent, but

436
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: he's like, you know, you really are a legit great archer,

437
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: and Kate is like, holy shit, this is amazing. We

438
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 1: end up back at Morrisey's village pad Clint is again

439
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: using frozen produce to ice his bruises and stuff and

440
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: his phone rings, and here we get like one of

441
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,479
Speaker 1: my favorite scenes, I think in any Marvel thing ever.

442
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 1: This was a great Clint gets a call. He thinks

443
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 1: it's from Laura. It's actually from Nathaniel, but he can't

444
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 1: hear it, and so he's trying to like play it off, like, oh, honey,

445
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: can you text me. Kate comes up and writes down

446
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: everything that Nate is saying, and you know, He's like, Dad,

447
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: I'm bored, Mommy's asleep. It is like a very kid

448
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: thing to say. And eventually Clint says, listen, I'm not

449
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: going to be home for a family movie night. And

450
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,719
Speaker 1: Nate's like, listen, if you can't make it over Christmas,

451
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: I get it, and Clint's like, I promise, I'm going

452
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: to be there. Let's pause here for a sing.

453
00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 2: See breaking apart. You see.

454
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 1: I tear it up. I honestly did tear up because

455
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: RENNERD does it all on his face right here, and

456
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: it is and even Kate, you can see great stuff

457
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: from Hailey Steinfeld. Kate you can tell feels like fuck,

458
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: I fuck this guy's life up. Ben, Yeah, let me

459
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 1: ask you here because I'm getting these vibes like, man,

460
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: are they gonna kill Clint Barton?

461
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't know.

462
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a lot of I'm gonna be there,

463
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm telling I'm coming home. I'm gonna do it.

464
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get there.

465
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like it may be one of those

466
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: things where if they I don't think they straight up

467
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 2: kill him. But baby, I don't know. I think no,

468
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 2: I think what will happen is like we will see

469
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 2: your first official like passing of the like mantle, like

470
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 2: we sort of mean you got it. The implied with

471
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 2: with you know, cap doing it an endgame, but like

472
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 2: this is like he's in this prime, like he has

473
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 2: this kid. I think this is like his last rodeo.

474
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 2: He's like, you know what, I went out. I helped

475
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 2: this lady, Like she's capable of being here, and like

476
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 2: she has my number if she needs to kill me.

477
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 2: But like, don't call me, like you said, Lesteno's sons

478
00:26:59,280 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: is popping up.

479
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: I could see him getting so because you know, him

480
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: getting banged up is kind of part of the deal

481
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: and part of the character. I could see him getting

482
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: so injured that he's just like I can't do it anymore.

483
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: Maybe that's how they do it. We go to the

484
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: tracksuit warehouse Trust to brow the fleet of Trust bro

485
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: vans are out there. Kasie pulls my aside. He's like, listen,

486
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: are you maybe like pulling on a little too tight

487
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: the thrown thing. You know, we should be keeping a

488
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: low profile, not banging in on the streets. If the

489
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: uncle finds out, if our boss uncle, who listen. There's

490
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: a lot of theorizing that it's Kingpin. I don't know how.

491
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: I think that's a big look at hand, it was

492
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: a big looking suit. It was very similar to the

493
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: suit Denofrio wears in the in the Netflix series. I

494
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: it's him, I'm just I will be shocked if it's

495
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 1: not him. Anyway, Maya's like, you would not question my

496
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 1: father like this, right, And you know, honestly, she is right,

497
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: and that conversation just gets fucking shut down, and she's like,

498
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: tracksuit guys. You guys are absolute fucking morons. Okay, but

499
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: I want you to investigate Clint Barton by hooker by crook,

500
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: Like you guys can't even figure out what to do

501
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,959
Speaker 1: with the manager dragon tickets. I don't care. I want

502
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 1: you to investigate a former Shield agent in Chinatown. Kate

503
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: and Clint go to get his hearing it fixed. Later,

504
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: they grab lunch where Kate is just buzzing on adrenaline

505
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: because they're having adventures and she's getting to do this

506
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: with a hero, and Clint is like, I turned my

507
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: shit off. I'm not hearing you. Literally, I'm gonna turn

508
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: my shit on now so I can order coffee. Yeah,

509
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: Kate tells Clint, I've always wanted to be a superhero.

510
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: This is amazing that I said we're doing I'm doing it.

511
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: And then another just wonderful small scene between these these

512
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: two actors. Clint is like, listen, there's a price. There's

513
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: a price you have to pay. It's not just that

514
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: my hearing is impaired. Unspoken is all the time spent

515
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: alone with my family, the kind of like soul cost

516
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: of the fact that I've killed so many people, watching

517
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: Nat die in front of me, all of that. Kate,

518
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: it is like, Okay, boom er, whatever, check this out.

519
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to draw you a new costume. And then

520
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: she draws him a costume, which is basically Don Heck's

521
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: og Hawkeye design from the six season is super cool.

522
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: Clint's like, I'm not wearing that. I won't wear a mask.

523
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: I'm not wearing that. My wife would leave me the

524
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: whole thing. Yes, And Kate is like, well, you know

525
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: the way you're protecting Ronan, you must know who it is.

526
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: That's got to be somebody close to you. Clint doesn't answer,

527
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: but he does tell Kate that listen, I'm not a

528
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: role model. I'm not a hero. Kate doesn't get it.

529
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: She's not seen the body count again. Later on, Clint

530
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: begrudgingly tells Kate some very very extremely basic info in

531
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: the track suits. They were once a small gang and

532
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: now they're bigger, okay, all right, and that the boss

533
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: at the top will do anything to grow the operation.

534
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: Ha huh Ronan. Clint says, hit a supplier of the

535
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: track suits, and then hit tracksuit management in what we

536
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: assume is we'll talk about if that's the case in

537
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: the conversation that follows this, and it's assumed that kills

538
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: Maya's dad that was what he's talking about is the

539
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: attack that we saw at the beginning of this episode

540
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: in the cab right back, Clint wonders what else the

541
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: tracksuits were after not knowing, of course, about the watch

542
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: which we saw in a previous episode, they break into

543
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: Kate's mom's penthouse to get into the Bishop security mainframe

544
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: find some info about the tracksuits. They discover that Kazi

545
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: has links to a company called Sloan Ltd. There's also

546
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: a really cool easter egg more Daredevil stuff. There's a

547
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: really cool Easter egg. One of the names in that

548
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: database is m Kemp, which is probably Michael Kemp, who

549
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: is a character from Daredevil season three where Matt Murdoch

550
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: breaks into Rikers to talk to this low level Albanian gangster.

551
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: And it's episode four And if you haven't caught up

552
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: with dared Oel, maybe you know and you want to

553
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: see something incredible. Four of season three of Daredevil has

554
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: a one take action scene in which Matt escapes from

555
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: Rikers and it's legitimately one of the great action scenes

556
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: of the last five years movies, television, whatever. It's nuts

557
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: so cool easter egg there. Then Kate is you know,

558
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: continues to hack, but then she gets locked out of

559
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: the system, and Clint is just like marveling at the

560
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: riches of the Kate Bishop penthouse. He's walking around looking

561
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: at it, and next thing you know, he finds a

562
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: sword at his neck. It is his own Ronan sword

563
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: held by one Jack Dukane, who I can only suspect

564
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: next episode will open the episode by saying, Clint, my boy, yeah,

565
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: my protege okay. So critics and the viewers love it.

566
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: Ninety two positive on Rotten Dematos by critics, eighty percent

567
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: says the audience here is my kale. At the New

568
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: York Times, Seinfeld and Renner are good foils for each other,

569
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: as Bishop pushes Bartner relax and he tends to act

570
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: like her fussy at he really is a boomer in

571
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: this Positive reviews, Positive reviews. Let's go on to the

572
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: theories and what's going on here. Okay, we're stepping out

573
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: of the airlock and into a wonderfully up kept nineteen

574
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: seventy Dodge Challenger to discuss Hawkeye on Disney Plus Zig

575
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: what did you think of these episodes? And man, is

576
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: it the Kingpin? Is it the kig Pin? Thanks?

577
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: Starting off? The episodes are great. I let them across

578
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: the board. Number three was the episode three was definitely

579
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: may like, fuck, the show is good. Like I was

580
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: telling Jason before before we recorded that, I almost texted

581
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: him like, damn, I can't believe I actually care about

582
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 2: Clinton Barton because I've never It's sort of like how

583
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: the Faction comments, like I never gave particularly much of

584
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: a shit about Hawkeye or Clint Barton, but like that

585
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 2: comic made me care, Like this episode three had made

586
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: me care. It's great. I it's got to be the Kingpin.

587
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 2: I was like, who else? Who else has that thick

588
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 2: that thick of a suit and that thick of a hand,

589
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: you know, walking around working with like some some vaguely

590
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: Albanian dudes like fingers crossed, like I hope my heart

591
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: of heart wanted to be the Kingpin man.

592
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, same here. I love this episode for all the

593
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: reasons I said above. I think they're doing something really

594
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: kind of magical with with Hawkeye with Clint Barton. In

595
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,719
Speaker 1: that one, they are acknowledging that he killed a lot

596
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: of people and that it was a bad thing that

597
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: he did, like that wasn't good, and they are acknowledging

598
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: the toll that it's taken on him. But also to

599
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,479
Speaker 1: your point, and this is on the heels of an

600
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: episode in which you saw him murder like what seemed

601
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: like a really loving father, his father.

602
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 2: Yeh.

603
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're making you care about him like they they

604
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: all these family moments, all the moments with Kate where

605
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: he you can feel him against his better judgment, like

606
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: kind of liking her, yeah, but also wanting to be like, man, don't.

607
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,959
Speaker 2: You don't do this? Yeah? It really makes it, really,

608
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 2: it really makes me. This is the thought I always

609
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 2: have when I'm reading like a Punisher comic, where I'm like,

610
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 2: you know, I mean I also have like the very

611
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 2: bad guys who are doing like you know, sex trafficking

612
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 2: and like actual war cariminals. Yeah, but it's like a

613
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: dude selling drugs he's getting shot in the face because

614
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: he's be given a bad hand. Like that's the thought

615
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 2: that I had with with you know, echoes Dad, and

616
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: it brings me this at this point I talked about

617
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 2: last time, but like this is like the first like

618
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 2: street level stuff that we've seen, and like I like

619
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 2: that they're playing it smart and it's not just like

620
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 2: this guy robbing a car and he needs to get

621
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 2: his fucking neck broken, Like well, why is he rapping

622
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: the car? Like yeah, what are the systematic things that

623
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: are in places make him have to do that? And

624
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 2: like this is the first time like we're sort of

625
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 2: seeing that, Like we're seeing like, yeah, they're big bads.

626
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 2: Are just a bunch of like vaguely Eastern European dudes

627
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: and tracksuits. They're they're having fun. They're pulling out suction

628
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: cup you know, arrows and and putty arrows and like

629
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 2: they're kidding people with like you know trick as that

630
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 2: bringing up a bunch of like Christmas trees, so to

631
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 2: one another. It's like it's just a fun thing when

632
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: it's so much more grounded in the stakes are so

633
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: much lower that you can have this big fun comic

634
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 2: bookiness of us all, which I think, you know, we

635
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 2: haven't really got that aspect in Marvel yet, when like

636
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 2: just the street level guys on the ground fighting like

637
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: low steaks guys.

638
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree with you. And again it is

639
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: it just ties into the stuff that I've loved about

640
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: comics from an early age, which is like it you know, honestly,

641
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: you take the suit and the powers away, and these

642
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: are like some of the saddest stories you know ever,

643
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: Like you take Spider Man, you take the powers away

644
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,439
Speaker 1: from Spider Man, and it's like a young man makes

645
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: a poor decision that leads to his beloved uncle. He's

646
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: already an orphan and he's living with his uncle and

647
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: aunt and leads to his uncle getting murdered awful, you know,

648
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: Like it's the same with any you know, like Harry

649
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: Potters and great example that's just like an abused kid

650
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: that's like his was kept under the stairs by like relatives,

651
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: like if he never gets a magic letter his to

652
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: give all of that meaning. It doesn't change. Maya is

653
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 1: someone who watches her dad like horrifically murdered in front

654
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: of her, and if not for it's her personal dedication

655
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: and her like doggedness and talent that allows that to

656
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: like alchemize and turn into her having these like amazing abilities.

657
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: That is the kind of stuff like as a kid,

658
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: that is the stuff you just like daydream about.

659
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it also makes me think, like, you know, if

660
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: this is if this is like just a straight up

661
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: comic and like not having to like write stuff like

662
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 2: this would be she would be the that would be

663
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: like the first five pages of like the next Great

664
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 2: Daredevil comic. You know, like she's like she's she very

665
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 2: much feels like, you know, this is like if Matt

666
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: Mardach went down the bath his dad getting killed by

667
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 2: the Kingpin. Her dad gets killed by their roanin Like

668
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 2: she has a very similar power set. It seems like

669
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 2: at least, you know what the you know, the hearing

670
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 2: stuff and like being able to see stuff or like yeah,

671
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 2: like you want to root for that and like, yeah,

672
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just it's just so much cooler.

673
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a lot of it's been cool, but

674
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 2: like It's cool seeing like a person that you can

675
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 2: probably meet, like in their superpowers, just like being like

676
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 2: fifteen percent better than most humans, you know, like that's

677
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 2: really what her superpower is.

678
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: Great origin story like this is how you do it?

679
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 4: It was what like.

680
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: Four scenes maybe five and a half minutes total, and

681
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: you got it. Yes, you got everything that drives her.

682
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: You know what she can do, and you know why

683
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: she is absolutely enraged and furious. I can't wait for

684
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: the Maya show. A'subout theory. So Saul are one of

685
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: our producers, Saul Rubin, we were discussing in the pre

686
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: pro like, oh, that's crazy, Like Clint during his killing

687
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: spree killed Maya's dad. That was awful, And then Saul

688
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: brought up that in the comics, it's actually the Kingpin

689
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: that orders the murder of Maya's dad and then he

690
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: frames Daredevil for it. What if he's doing something similar here,

691
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, like a good way to get rid of

692
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: people during the time that Ronan was active was like,

693
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: you know, dressed like Ronan and kill a bunch of

694
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: people and just blame it on that guy. They're never

695
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: even catch him anyway, and if they do, let's put

696
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: those bodies on him. Now, I think that that is fantastic.

697
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,959
Speaker 1: And then you have I don't know if it would

698
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: be Bullseye or whatever, but you have already made person

699
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: who has used a sword in this story already and

700
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: Jack Dukaine maybe it was Jack. Now the question, first

701
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: of all, what do you think of that? It kind

702
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: of undercuts the fact that Clint knew that the Ronan

703
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: hit the Tracksuits previously?

704
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that does under well yeah yeah, it

705
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: better cuts it. But also is like, you know, this

706
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 2: isn't the only faction of Tracksuits, right, They've probably got

707
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: operations all over the city. It does like just thinking

708
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 2: like comic book or wise, like you know the big

709
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 2: bads so far like Echo and the Swordsman, but like

710
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: any true comic it has to have like you gotta

711
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 2: have like issue five or four is like when you

712
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 2: see like who's really pulling the streams? It's Norman Osborne,

713
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 2: It's the Kingpin, It's Who's Instanos, it's whoever. And like

714
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 2: I feel like the big like the big splash page

715
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 2: reveal on episode how many episodes are doing like six?

716
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 2: Maybe episode like six, episode five is like, oh shit,

717
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 2: that's the Kingpin. He's like, maybe he's not like the

718
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 2: Kingpin we're used to with, like the Daredevil.

719
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: A Kingpin on the come up yesh, yes, Like yeah.

720
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 2: He's got like a nice warehouse he's in, like you know,

721
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: buying million dollar art pieces for his jail French boo.

722
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: But like I think I think that's the move because also,

723
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: like I said, like all this stuff has been so grounded,

724
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: like we know that Maya or Echo is getting like

725
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: a spin off show, and like it seems like Marvel

726
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: is taking the direction of doing like the street level stuff.

727
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 2: So like I imagine we're gonna see more of the

728
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: world of Like all right, if this is the Kingpin,

729
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 2: like all those other like Kingpin esque characters who are

730
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: like they're Robin Banks, are like they're you know, extorting neighborhoods,

731
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 2: They're not like, you know, getting six Infinity gauntlets to

732
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 2: Jilly Jims like snap half the universe away.

733
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 1: I love that. So if the Kingpin is framing Ronin,

734
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: which feels like a very Kingpin thing to do, and

735
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: if in fact it is Jack, which maybe that's why

736
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: it's Jack, the question then becomes this, so the the

737
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: they're not going to do a fake costume because they

738
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: made such a big deal about Clint having to get

739
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: back the costume. If there were a bunch of fake

740
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: knockoff Ronan costumes out there, then it wouldn't work as

741
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: a story piece. Right, So there's got it, there's the

742
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: one costume. Does that mean that Duquine and whoever broke

743
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: into the Avengers compound stole the suit and then brought

744
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: it back? And that's where it was in the rubble

745
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: Because I'm trying to figure out, like how the watch,

746
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: which is the thing wanted like basically the thing they

747
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: were trying to get it seemed like the tracksuits. How

748
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: that plays into it? Is like did Jack break in?

749
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: He stole the suit, then he brought it back, and

750
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 1: while he's undressing, he like took his watch off to

751
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: like whatever, wash his hands.

752
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 2: He just like left the watch. Yeah, it makes me. Yeah,

753
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if it's one of

754
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 2: those things where like they just have some like low

755
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 2: upper state New York dude scavenged it and they got

756
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: into like the black markets. I have no idea. I

757
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 2: think I don't know if you're the one that tweeted this,

758
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 2: but like I think like the auction. They also are

759
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 2: like a dinosaur, a dinosaur skull, there's shortage, and was like, oh,

760
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: that's this is a Savage Land's confirmed. Like I don't

761
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: know if it's just like one of those things where

762
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: like they have a group of weird guys that have

763
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: been picking up weird stuff all over the world. Yeah,

764
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: maybe you'll find a dinosaur skull. Also, we had this

765
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: dude upstate that went through the aftermath of the Avengers compound,

766
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: like they found a watch, maybe there's a maybe there's

767
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 2: an Ironman Suit eighty seven schematic and there, you don't know,

768
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 2: pay a bunch of money, we'll see what happens with it.

769
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: I do think that that's a Savage Land hit that's

770
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: too big, Like they know what whether it's Savage Land

771
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 1: or not. I'll just say that the people who make

772
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: these shows are very very smart, Okay they and they

773
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: know that when they put a dinosaur skull in there,

774
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: that you and I and everyone else are going to

775
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: be like, oh shit.

776
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: You can go to Google and see like the searches

777
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 2: for devil dinosaur spiking the day that is.

778
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: Let me throw another theory at you. I want to

779
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: also preface this by saying, list of my theories are

780
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: often wrong, but I love doing it and I'm not

781
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: gonna stop going in because I love doing it. That's

782
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: that's why we're here. I feel like this ends with

783
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: Clint gets home. He's banged up, right, he can't really

784
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: fight that well, and they think it's over. Clint got

785
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: home for Christmas. He's in a full body cast, but

786
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: he made it. And then we get that Jason Voor

787
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: He's coming out of the water camp Crystal Lake moment

788
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 1: where you thought it was over, but no, it's not

789
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: over because now the bad guys are here. They're going

790
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: to attack him on the farm. That means Laura's got

791
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: to suit up. She's got to put the Bobby Morrise

792
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: Mockingbirds suit back on. And then my Lopez, we assume

793
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: is switch side by this time, has got to help out.

794
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: And you know, maybe Yolena, who we know is going

795
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: to be in this, has got to help out. And

796
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: now it's like a big fight on Clint's farm with

797
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: Clint in a you know, fully laid up, just like

798
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: watching from the sidelines.

799
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 2: That's so I completely forgot that they said that Elena's

800
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 2: going to be in this, Like like yeah, yeah, but

801
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 2: that that sounds like a fun theory. Like I'm like,

802
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: I mean all these I mean Marvel movies are notorious

803
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 2: for the third act fight. Like that's that's what people

804
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: show up for, you know, like every commo. I want

805
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 2: to have the double spread, the double page splash. Yeah, yeah,

806
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: I could see like there's some type of assault on

807
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 2: the farm, just because like you want to see, yeah,

808
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 2: like you want to get the cool shot of like

809
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 2: both Hawkeyes shooting their thing, or if you want to

810
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 2: see mocking Bird in like Kate Bishop Hawkeye kicking some

811
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 2: ass with with echo, Like I'd buy that. What I said,

812
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: I would love to see that.

813
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: What's your what's your favorite double page spread?

814
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 2: Oh boy, that's man, That's that's a hard question.

815
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: Uh.

816
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,479
Speaker 2: I'll say this is I think this is a double

817
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: page spread. I can't remember correctly, but there's an amazing Spider.

818
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: Man where it's like splash or a double page, it

819
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, Like, yeah, whatever.

820
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 2: I would do the splash. It's one of my favorite splash.

821
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: It's a it's a Spider Man like going throughout the citium,

822
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: like one of the tropes or like one of the

823
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 2: classic things that Spider Man is like to show characters agility.

824
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: They'll show like ghost images of him and him like

825
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 2: a high rise, he jumps off a water tower like

826
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: swips around like a flagpole, bounces off, and like he

827
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 2: comes out of the frame with that. I just like

828
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 2: those are like my absolute favorite types of splashes, and

829
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 2: like that one has been burned into my my skull forever.

830
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: That.

831
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 2: Then there's one like Avengers, the one where they assault

832
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 2: the base. I think siege. I think it's what it

833
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 2: was called. But like this' one where like like the

834
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 2: Wasp was just like sunbathing and like a helicopter peers

835
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 2: and then like Captain America, like does it doesn't slip?

836
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he dives down and slips. It does like a summersault.

837
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: Like bro, you could just like the doors open, you

838
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: could just walk in, but if you want to flec Yeah,

839
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: that's not steels.

840
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: That that is a uh yeah, that's the Rogers Stern

841
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: siege storyline, under Siege, under stage. It's like fantastic my

842
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: favorite splash. I mean, it's gotta be Kitty Pride, oh,

843
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: Professor Xaviers or jerk. It is one of the great

844
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: openings in comics history. And then I think I love

845
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: Hitch Brian Hitch and his work in Ultimates one and two.

846
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: There's some I mean that stuff is like blow it up,

847
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: put it on your wall, and just start at it

848
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: forever under the black light. There's a couple splait double

849
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: page spreads in there, particularly Ultimates too, where it's like

850
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: they're all in action fighting these crazy like demons in

851
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: DC and the level of detail is like it's just

852
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: an ocean of demons. They're fighting them, and you look

853
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: and it's Quicksilver is zipping throughout the picture, like from

854
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: the top to the bottom, doing different things every every way,

855
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: like Hawkeye is shooting arrows. It's really cool, really cool.

856
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: One of my favorites ever, just like one of the

857
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: things you can fall into a little bit of a

858
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: problematic comic listener.

859
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: But like that is definitely comic that maybe like, oh,

860
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 2: I think I like Captain America, Like he's kind of interesting.

861
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 2: All right, cool, let's let's do.

862
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: This listen again. Great episode. I can't wait for episode

863
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: four or any any theories that you have, any predictions

864
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: do you want to make?

865
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 2: You know, I feel like we're really I mean, this

866
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 2: was like the big fun comic booking one I think

867
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 2: episode four is probably gonna be a little bit more

868
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: like expo, like this is why things are happening. We'll

869
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 2: probably get a fun set piece. I'm thinking, like mad

870
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: As you mentioned that Black Widow or Yolana black Widow

871
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 2: is going to be and I think we might get

872
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 2: like the first tease that like is black widowed or

873
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: is she like being directed by by by I guess

874
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 2: this version of what the Thunderbolts will be. Is there

875
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: going to be a Thunderbolts teasing this like I'm hoping.

876
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 2: I think it will get like a bigger a bigger

877
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 2: worldview like the the We'll get like a twenty thousand

878
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 2: foot view of like the street level stuff in episode four.

879
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: Obviously a lot of Daredevil hints as well. Yeah, whenever

880
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: the Kingpin is if you're thinking Kimpin's got to be there,

881
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: his number one foil has always been dared Owlil do

882
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: we get. I think we get some sort of like

883
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 1: we see like Nelson and Murdoch, like like ad or

884
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: something or a sticker, or we maybe a mention of

885
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: Matt Murdoch as a lawyer. I don't I don't think

886
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: we see Daredevil in this. I think maybe we get

887
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: a mention.

888
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I was just gonna say, like, there's no

889
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 2: way though they'll they would drop Daredevil in like a

890
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: TV show that I remembers, like they had Jonathan Major's.

891
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: In Loki, Like, yeah, right, the rules are whatever they want.

892
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I feel the same with you.

893
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: It feels like they wouldn't do it, but maybe they

894
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: would know a lot of people are theorizing, Oh, like Daredevil,

895
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: they'll bring him over in no way home, maybe from

896
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: another dimension like the Netflix dimension. Yeah, that could be.

897
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: And here's my my only note on why maybe that

898
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: couldn't be the case is Matt Listen A big part

899
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: of his identities he's a practicing lawyer. He's, you know,

900
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: out there fighting in the courts for the little guy

901
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: all the time. And I don't think his Earth four

902
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: twenty law degree it's gonna work. It's gonna work in

903
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: this Earth. I may be wrong. I don't know how

904
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: it works if you get a law degree in another dimension?

905
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: It does it? Does it transfer?

906
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: Like does your cell phone and your driver's licenes all

907
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: that stuff work? You'r atm Yeah, Yeah, I'm just I

908
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: don't know. It feels like it wouldn't work.

909
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's ever a Devil TV show that the first

910
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 2: season would just be about getting around the hurdles of

911
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 2: interdimensional in universal law practices.

912
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like on the phone with the I R S.

913
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: It's like push for if you were recently brought over

914
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: to this dimension from another dimension. Uh shit, awesome, this

915
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: is fun.

916
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, always a blast up next to the omnibus.

917
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: Huh bad buzz what you want? What you're gonna do

918
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,919
Speaker 1: when the Ron incomes and kills your dad? We're talking

919
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: about crime, folks. With all the speculation about Uncle and

920
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: about whether this character is in fact Wilson Fisk, the

921
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: Kingpin of Crime and Marvel Comics Fame and Daredevil on

922
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: Netflix Fame, it feels like the perfect time to do

923
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: a kind of cursory overview of the worlds of organized

924
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: crime within Marvel Comics canon. Now quick note, a criminal

925
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: a criminality in the context of the Marvel universe was

926
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: the comics and the MCU doesn't necessarily mean villain. Right

927
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: In the real world, of course, legality and morality are

928
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: often mutually exclusive, and we could point to any number

929
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: of horrific things slavery, for instance, that were one hundred

930
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: percent legal, not illegal. That's in the real world. In

931
00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: the Marvel universe, the only heroic use of power, right,

932
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: because we're talking about a world in which both the

933
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: supervillains and the superheroes have incredible powers, the only heroic

934
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 1: use of power is the protection of the powerless. Legally speaking,

935
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: superheroes break the law all the time, Like if we

936
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Speaker 1: look at the MCU in Ironman, the movie Ironman, Tony

937
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: Stark invades a sovereign country or several of the airspace

938
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 1: of maybe several sovereign countries to carry it out an

939
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: unsanctioned attack. That's probably a declaration of war. If who

940
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: was in the real world using unlicensed advanced weaponry killing

941
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: a bunch of people, Yes, they're terrorists to save the

942
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: lives of the local townsfolk and civil War Captain America

943
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: and his insurgents are actively thumbing their nose at the

944
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: Cecovia Cords, which were agreed upon by many, many, many

945
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Speaker 1: nations in the un Black Widow, of course, has never

946
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: traveled without several forged passports. I don't think those are

947
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: on the up and up. Peter Parker law to drone

948
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 1: strike on his fucking students's fellow classmates Vision and Scarlet,

949
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: which were fugitives. Bruce Banner destroyed Harlem and an entire

950
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: university building. Kate Bishop hacked into the cellular networks to

951
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: locate Clint's phone and blew up a van. We can

952
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: go on on on and on in this context, right,

953
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: superheroes are kind of like the post war evolution of

954
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: the bandit trope, the bandit character, the best example of

955
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 1: which being Robin Hood who stole from the rich and

956
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: gapes to the poor. And will dive deeper into that

957
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: idea and that topic when we take a deeper look

958
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: at Clinton Barton himself later on in the series, when

959
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: doing so wouldn't spoil any potential reveals about learning about

960
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: Clint's backstory within the MCU. So, in the context of Marvel,

961
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: what does criminal mean then, if even the heroes are

962
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: constantly breaking the law and are in fact, you know,

963
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: if you want to be technical about it, criminals. It

964
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 1: means any person or group motivated by the pursuit of

965
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: wealth and power, mostly wealth, though for its own sake, right,

966
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: what separates Tony Stark from Obadias day Arnie is Tony

967
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: wants to use his wealth to make suits of armor

968
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: to defend an avenge the powerless, while Obadiastin wants to

969
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: make a bunch of suits to make a bunch of money.

970
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 4: Right.

971
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: The Vulture had some pretty trenchant critiques of the MCU's

972
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: version of capitalism and Spider Man Homecoming, And he was

973
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: at one point, you know, just like a struggling small

974
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: business owner, blue collar guye And in the end he

975
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: had millions of dollars, He had a nice house, he

976
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: had a nice car. He wanted to continue to do that.

977
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: He wanted to send his daughter to a great school

978
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: while having millions of dollars left over. Right, So let's

979
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: start our quick overview of organized crime with the Tracksuit Mafia.

980
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 1: They debuted in Matt Fraction and David Aya's character to

981
00:52:55,320 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: defining Hawkeye series, and they're essentially a very very low

982
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: level street gang who all wear track suits, of course,

983
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: made up of Eastern European guys, and they engage in

984
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: mainly street level stuff, you know, extortion, beating people up,

985
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 1: slum lord activities, shakedowns, and so on. Probably the first

986
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 1: organized crime group in the Marvel universe was the Maggia,

987
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: who are an Italian mob with various international rackets and

988
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: of course a strong presence in the United States, particularly

989
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: New York City. They are a group who were founded

990
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: by cult members cultists who worship the demon Sitanish, who

991
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: is a creation of the dread Dormamu Dormamu. I've come

992
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: to bargain. They are clearly the Maggia based on the

993
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: real life Italian mafia. They have a commission of bosses

994
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: who manage the direction of the organization. They prize and

995
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: value pure Italian bloodlines, and they are involved in traditional

996
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 1: real life mafia activities narcotic sec traffic and gambling, loan sharking,

997
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: and so on. Their primary rival in Marvel comics is

998
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: the Fisk Organization, the crime syndicate of the absolutely enormous big, big,

999
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: big Boy, big Daddy, diabolical guy Wilson Fisk, the kingpin

1000
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: of crime. Kingpin is in the comics is just like

1001
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: he's not superpowered, but he is huge and really really

1002
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: really strong. Anyway. In the comics, Fisk, you know, rises

1003
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 1: from kind of obscure beginnings to in a brutal fashion

1004
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: subdue the various crime families that are operating in New

1005
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: York forging them to get into you know, one highly centralized,

1006
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: ruthless organization which spans both criminal and legitimate enterprises. So

1007
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: what does that mean. In addition to stuff like you know,

1008
00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: arms dealing, human trafficking, narcotics, gambling, etc. The Kingpin also

1009
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: runs his legitimate business arm called Fisk Industries, which does

1010
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:11,720
Speaker 1: a bunch of legitimate stuff, including owning a fifty percent

1011
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 1: stake in the company Damage Control with Tony Stark. Tony

1012
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: Stark owns the other fifty percent of Damage Control. Yes,

1013
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:25,240
Speaker 1: that's right. In the comics, Tony willingly became a business

1014
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: partner of the Kingpin of crime, Wilson Fisk. Tony, what

1015
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: the fuck are you doing now? Damage Control? You may know.

1016
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: Damage Control is a company that basically goes in and

1017
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 1: does salvage and construction work after these big superhero battles

1018
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: take place. So the Chaitari attack New York City, damage

1019
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: Control comes in and they clean everything up, and they

1020
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: salvage all the Chatari weaponry and they ship it off

1021
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: to ostensibly the government, but as we've seen, who really knows.

1022
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: And by the way, great racket for Tony Stark, who

1023
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: on the one hand, is taking part as Iron Man

1024
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: in these battles, causing some of this damage, and on

1025
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: the other end of that is then profiting from the

1026
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: cleaning up of the mess that he helped make great

1027
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,760
Speaker 1: shit from Tony Stark, a true genius and a pioneer. Kingpinn,

1028
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: of course, is the primary antagonist for many notable street

1029
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 1: level New York City based heroes, including Spider Man, Punisher,

1030
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: Luke Cage, an Iron Fist, and in particular, Daredevil. Daredevil

1031
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: is his number one foil. Another syndicate with connections in

1032
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: the comics to Daredevil and Myo Lopez is The Hand.

1033
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: The Hand is a quasi religious cabal of ninjas with

1034
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: roots that go back centuries. Matt Murdoch's college girlfriend, Electra,

1035
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: a Greek national who Matt met on campus, was once

1036
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: part of and then a target of the Hand, and

1037
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: that brings Matt into conflict with them. In writer Brian

1038
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: Michael Bendis and artist David Finch's New Avengers run, the

1039
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: Ronan is recommended by Daredevil to Captain America, who then

1040
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: recommends Ronan to the New Avengers, who are heading to

1041
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: Japan to do a mission. They're like, here, I've got

1042
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: somebody recommended to me by Matt Murdock. It's this shadowy person.

1043
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: I don't know who it is, but they call themselves

1044
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: the Ronan, dressed all in black, and they're really good.

1045
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: They know about the Hand, they know how to fight them.

1046
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: So Ronan goes over helps them out. They fight the

1047
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: Hand and Hydra and then eventually that person on masks

1048
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: and we discover that the Ronan is in fact my

1049
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: Lopez Bomb Bomb Bomb. And finally, speaking of criminal enterprises

1050
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: run by demons, there is the Roxon Corporation, a too

1051
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: big to fail energy conglomerate and one of the largest

1052
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: corporations in the Marvel universe. Rocks On began as your

1053
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: standard you know, like oil and natural gas business, but evil,

1054
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: but even more evil than like in real life. Rox

1055
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: On provided some of the funds, some of the early

1056
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: funds that helped launch Shield. They have mined for energy

1057
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: sources on you know everyone when are on Earth strip

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Speaker 1: mining as well. They're not just doing oil and natural gas,

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00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: they're doing any kind of energy source, any kind of

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Speaker 1: rare material, any kind of mineral, All of that stuff

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Speaker 1: they do. And so they have done that also in

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Speaker 1: the Sabage Land where they strip mined for vibranium, among

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Speaker 1: other things. They've done it on Mars, and under the

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Speaker 1: leadership of CEO Dario Ager, who is secretly the magical

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Speaker 1: Minotaur of Legend and in alliance with Malachis, the Accursed,

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Speaker 1: a big bad of thor Roxon went on to exploit

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Speaker 1: the natural resources of the various realms that Malachith would conquer.

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Speaker 1: So Malachis like, Hey, I'm about to conquer the Ten Realms.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be fucking awesome. Dario or Ager, if

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Speaker 1: you want to get in on this, There's a bunch

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00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: of rare materials on there that I think would be

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00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: really profitable. You can come to any of the various

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Speaker 1: ten Realms after I conquer them and just like strip

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00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: mind to your heart's content. And Dario is like, yes,

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Speaker 1: it's criminality, an organized crime in the Marvel universe. Up

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00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: next to the endgame. You could not live with your

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00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: turkey hangover. So where did that bring you back to

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00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: us in the endgame?

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00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: Today we were playing another round of Assembly Required, in

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00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: which Sing and I will pick a character or item

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00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: from episodes two or three from Hawkeye for a randomly

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00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: assigned mundane mission. Chris, what is the mission today?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 4: So, in honor of the sweet driving skills of Clinton

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Speaker 4: Barton this week, You guys, man, is you have to

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Speaker 4: pick someone from these episodes to take you to lax

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00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 4: like you know, so let's say east Side's lax rush

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00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 4: hour traffic, your flights in an hour.

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Speaker 1: Who are you picking to get you there on timely?

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Speaker 2: Boy?

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00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: I think he went first last time, so I'll go

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Speaker 1: first this time. Yeah, I'll tell you who it's not

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01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: gonna be. It's not gonna be Enrique because this guy's

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01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 1: gonna fucking bend my ear off the whole time I'm

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01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: on my phone trying to like check into my flight,

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01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: trying to like text people last minute stuff. I don't

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01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: need Enrique like giving me his whole life story and

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Speaker 1: the all of that. I am gonna go with. Gosh,

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Speaker 1: you know what, he's a criminal, okay, but Kazzi seems

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Speaker 1: like a real stand up dude and m I understand

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Speaker 1: that their affront trust to Brow is a front, but

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01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: they got to drive those trucks, and that suggests to

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Speaker 1: me that Kazie and the other tracksuit fellas are you know,

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Speaker 1: responsible good drivers with like a Class B license whatever

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Speaker 1: you need to drive one of those. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go Kazi from the tracksuit Mavia. Who are you gonna pick?

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with uh King's meaty left hand. I

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01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 2: think if you you throw that thing out of a

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Speaker 2: window and you do this, the traffic is parting. You

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01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 2: throw your hand up, You're getting you know, taxi is

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01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 2: not gonna stop if you throw that big meaty paul up.

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Speaker 2: So I think there's a real good answer. There's a

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Speaker 2: real good way that can make clear the lanes for

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Speaker 2: myself and also a hell of taxi if I need to.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Wilson fizz cars, just get out of the way. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but he's coming through. That's it for the endgame. Who

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Speaker 1: do you think one? And who would you pick to

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Speaker 1: take you to lax? Hit hashtag xr N game and

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Speaker 1: give us your pick. Big thanks to the number one

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Speaker 1: bro Cody Ziggler for joining us on x ray vision. Cody,

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Speaker 1: what do you have to plug? Where can people find you?

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Speaker 2: You know what? If you find me on social media's

1124
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Speaker 2: at yafer Zig. If you love listening to nerdy podcast

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Speaker 2: like this one, check out the dark We podcast. I

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Speaker 2: hope Yeah, my boy Bertie Reid. We talk about almost

1127
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 2: the exact same thing, only we say the N word

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Speaker 2: way more because we're where we both got the cars

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Speaker 2: and we can say it yeah. And you know, if

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Speaker 2: you want to check out some like other like Street

1131
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Speaker 2: Level comics, definitely check out ma Wad's Daredevil run like

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Speaker 2: It's it's really great. It's sort of the same way

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Speaker 2: that that Factionauja have re sort of reinvented the New Hawkeye.

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Speaker 2: That's a great way that reinmit the Daredevil and amazing

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Speaker 2: Spider Man's seventy nine and eighty Baby they drive pick

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Speaker 2: it up Baby Beyond.

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Speaker 1: It's it's really great and what a fun arc that's been.

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Speaker 2: Thanks man.

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Speaker 1: in each episode, check out our listeners guide to all

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Speaker 1: our website. Catch the next episode on December tenth. We're

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Speaker 1: also thrilled to announced at x ray Vision has officially

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Speaker 1: entered the late twentieth century with our very own email address.

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Speaker 1: ray at crooked dot com. Hit us up with questions

1147
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1150
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1153
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Speaker 1: be found in the episode show notes Again. The email

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1156
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Speaker 1: a Crooked Media production. The show is produced by Chris

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Speaker 1: Lord and Saul Rubin. It's executive produced by me Jason

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Speaker 3: See you next Time, Full Things, Full Time must say,

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Speaker 3: oh Zi wolves in my head, that's my favorite.

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Speaker 1: One kid.

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Speaker 3: You don't like that one believe buys the dragons. The

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Speaker 3: imagined dragons are fantastic. You have to know, okay,