WEBVTT - Police Killing Outside RNC on ‘Make America Safe Again’ Day 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:05.240 All media. 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:09.080 Welcome back to it could happen here a podcast recorded 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:12.840 at the Republican National Convention, which I do not very 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:15.080 much like. We're having a great time. 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:16.919 Though, well not really. This is the worst day we've 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:17.439 had so far. 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:19.640 This is one of the worst days I've ever had. Yeah, 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:21.960 we did get to talk with Rudy Giuliani, which was 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:24.919 a highlight of the day. Hearing more about that later, 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:27.520 But first let's go around. Let you know who's going 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:30.040 to be talking on this episode. First off, we've got 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:34.920 Garrison Davis hello, finally identified as she her by the 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:35.760 Secret Service. 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:37.760 There you go. Congrats, They're going woke. 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:38.520 They're going woke. 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:39.440 That's why it happened. 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:41.640 That's what Rudy talked about, and I guess he was right. 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:45.559 And then speaking of woke, de. 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:53.519 Supervisor Sophie Lichterman, I've. 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:54.000 Had a day. 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:55.880 I'll bet make fun of me. 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:01.720 We are in the like the chunk of the there's 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:05.160 like the main stadium where all of the very red 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:08.080 and botox people give their speeches, and then there's this 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:10.800 part where all of the different media companies have booths 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:12.399 set up. Iheart's got a booth. 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:14.360 There a very large booth very. 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:16.480 Large booth, and we are kind of above that right 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:19.280 now because it's a relatively quiet place to record for 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:20.080 some visuals. 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:24.319 Here we are sitting in this part of a arena. 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:25.959 The Panther Arena, the Panther Arena. 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:30.080 There's red carpet everywhere, and there are cubicle style booths 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:32.160 for various publications. 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:34.120 Let's see, I see O A n. 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:37.480 We are sitting right above the iHeart to end the 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:40.800 Daily Wire booth. They have a whole wall of Matt Walsh, 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:42.800 a wall of walls wallsh if you will. 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:45.160 Bright Bart's got a tiny little cue, very small. 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:47.840 Frank'speach has a little booth. You know, a lot of 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:49.200 a lot of local radio, you know. 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:52.120 For there was that when we met Rudy earlier today, 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:54.760 he was that the wvo in booth, which is a 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:57.760 local radio station. They did not let him speak this 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:00.480 year at the r n C. Did not really seemed 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:01.400 to want him to be here. 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:02.080 That's too bad. 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:05.680 He claimed to be happy that that was the case. Well, yeah, 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:06.480 interesting guy. 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:07.760 Took a little tumble today. 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:10.480 Took a little tumble today, fell and then kept falling 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:14.040 on the floor of the event. Classic Rudy. And when 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:17.080 we went to lunch earlier and wound up in the 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:20.280 same room as Ted Cruz briefly, who was also at 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:23.320 that restaurant. A lady came up to us, a Republican 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:25.519 alternate delegate, and said, are you a band? 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:29.720 Are you musicians? You look like musicians? 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:33.000 Solely based off of Robert having tattoos. 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.000 I do think it was entirely based on the fact 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:35.480 that I have to. 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:37.680 Have We probably look cooler than anyone else here. 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:40.440 Thank you, thank you, I said, we that's the first 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:42.640 time you've said that to me, Garrison, and it really 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:44.880 you know what, I I. 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:45.600 Took a convention. 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:49.040 I took a convention publish older than my grandparents. 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:53.800 I will say that at this restaurant, the restaurant worker 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:56.440 did give us all free shots of vodka because she 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:58.280 said we had looked like we had had a week 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:00.600 and boy, how do you Is she right? 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:02.320 I'm sure she's been having one too. 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:04.920 Yeah, she was very nice. So Garon, Robert, you want 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.240 to take me we weren't together for most of today. 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:09.280 Do you want to take me through your day? And 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:12.160 then I can tell you about my really fun day? 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:12.760 Good? 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:16.960 Yeah, So we'll start by talking about our morning. So 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:20.480 yesterday was a pro Palestine march that that was Monday 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:22.680 from Monday ference kind of build us a march on 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:27.520 the RNC. It was a sizable demonstration, at least five hundred. 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:30.120 At least five hundred uncleared to me the exact numbers, 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:32.840 but not tiny march is a little bit of a misnumber. 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:34.920 It was located in the park that's kind of closest 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:38.080 to the RNC security area today. It was a very 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:41.560 different vibe. There were counter protesters, but there were also 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:43.560 like there was like a church group who was there 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:44.120 with signs. 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:48.080 It's like a Westboro Baptist church styles street preacher group. 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:49.640 They do not like Catholics. 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:53.360 They don't like gay people or Catholics, or fornication or adultery, 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:55.720 that sort of thing. You know, if you can picture 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:58.800 the big signs that people carry around, it's. 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:00.480 That sounds sounds fun. Guys. 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:03.280 We saw an amazing T shirt today, Robert, do you 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:04.760 do you have a do you have a recollection of 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:06.760 the best T shirt that we saw today? 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:10.880 Oh God, is that the prolapsed rectum tissue is atal 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:13.880 sex equals prolapsed rectum? And then wow, god, it felt 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:17.320 like a John quote. There was a book of the 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:20.200 Bible that I know does not refer directly to prolapse. 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:22.760 Reptive romans romans Paul, so you know. 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:24.640 Paul was not talking about rectums. 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:27.039 Well, but Paul is the most homophobic out of all 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:29.640 the New Testament writers. But basically we talked to some 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:31.880 of these types of people gathered at this little this 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:34.120 little squares little park. There was maybe like one or 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:37.839 two people protesting the RNC itself, just holding signs, you know, 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:40.240 someone with a megaphone, But the rest of the people 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:43.920 gathered where these were these street preacher types. And then 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:47.040 we went over to this media section earlier this morning. 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:49.920 That's where we talked to our good are now good friend, 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:50.799 Rudy Giuliani. 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:55.160 So again, if you're picturing this floor, it's like a 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:57.440 bunch of large cubicles. So have you've ever been to 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:59.640 a trade show. It looks like a trade show, right, 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:03.640 But the cubicles is a different radio station or internet 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:07.440 media company. And Rudy was just sort of chilling at 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:11.600 a local radio station booth with Laura Lumer. When we 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:14.919 first walked up, amazing vibes, she thanked God left and 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:18.359 I will say Laura Lumer famous on the Internet for 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:22.359 looking very peculiar, one of the more normal looking people 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:23.200 at the RNC. 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.120 Which I don't think is a testament to how normal 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:28.480 Laura Lumer looks. It's a testament to the types of 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:30.719 people that we are seeing every day at the RNC 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.960 that everyone kind of looks a little lumor esque. Yeah, 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:37.120 so she looks a little bit less bizarre in comparison 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:39.640 to just everyone else we're seeing, who all has, you know, 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.719 a curious amount of facial surgeries, Yeah going on that 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:45.200 makes them just look just look a little different, just. 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:47.640 A little different. We saw the Fox News had anchored 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:51.200 today whose face was as smooth as a baby's ass. 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:52.480 It looked like carved marble. 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.200 It looked like carved marble, and was clearly bloated with 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:56.239 Bachelin toxin. 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:57.360 Incredible. 0:05:57.640 --> 0:05:59.960 Yeah, it was a beautiful man, Sophie. He was a beauty. 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:01.600 I think he uses retinal. 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:04.320 He must use retinal. And he had a chin as 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:07.400 wide as like Glory days Bruce Campbell. 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:07.720 Very wide face. 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:10.800 I bet he never forgot to wear sunscreen, unlike you two. 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:13.040 So yeah, kind of the last thing we did at 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:15.080 the convention before coming back was we had a little 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:19.000 conversation with Rudy primarily about Ukraine. His basic stance is 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:21.360 that Ukraine is stealing all of the money that the 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:24.159 government gives it. When I pointed out that that money 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:27.919 was primarily coming in military subsidies and like military weapons, 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.719 he said they were stealing the weapons and selling them. 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:32.760 And I asked who, and he said he didn't know, 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:35.240 at which point his handler got him out of there, 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:38.360 and we wound up walking over to the iHeart booth 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.280 where one of our coworkers, Dan O'Donnell, who's a more 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:43.960 conservative guy in the network, but who through a law 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:46.960 enforcement contact, got the story that a man had just 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:50.159 been shot outside of the RNC security zone, but by 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.960 police who were in town for the RNC. It wound 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:56.480 up that they are Columbus, Ohio police. So we rushed 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:58.839 down there, split up with him pretty quickly because I 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:01.720 think he was mostly interested and talking to the police 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:05.040 on scene, and we wound up right in the middle 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:08.560 of you know, what is the poorest neighborhood in Milwaukee, 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.280 the poorest zip code in the state, one of the 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:14.680 highest rates of incarceration in the country. It is a 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:17.920 deeply deprived area. The first guy we talked to, he 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:21.600 was with Lighthouse Ministries I think was the name of 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:24.000 the organization, which is essentially he was running like a 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:28.040 Christian halfway house, and we saw another larger halfway house 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:30.200 even closer to the shooting, Like there were two half 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:33.400 way houses effectively right next to each other. That's the 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:37.120 kind of neighborhood this was. And when we got there, 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:41.040 police had just started setting up cordons. They had started 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:43.520 it with about a block or two fenced off with 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:46.240 police tapes, but were widening at every few minutes. They 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:48.880 were adding new blocks, quickly expanding, and a large number 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.880 of cops were on scene. There were horse cops on scene. 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:53.720 We could not get close to them, about a block 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:55.720 from the site of the shooting itself, but we were 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:57.880 able to get into a park where there were a 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:00.680 lot of local people who were very angry at what 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:04.000 had happened. And one of the first things I encountered 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:06.240 was a couple of guys, you know, one of whom 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.000 was filming on his phone yell and got the police, 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:10.440 a couple of whom were sitting in lawn chairs, and 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:13.040 one of whom was speaking about like you know, who 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:16.360 had clearly witnessed the shooting, saying like you know, they 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:19.200 were just having an argument. If you'd let us the 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:22.120 neighborhood handle it, we would have handled it. The most 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:23.880 there would have been was a black guy. What the 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:26.320 fuck is wrong with you guys. We talked to him. 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:28.680 His name is Emmanual, And I'm actually just gonna play 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.040 a clip from that interview with the Manual right now. 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:35.320 Here's the on the bikes. I want to let you see. 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:40.199 So they parked in the King Center alley and they 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:42.360 were just basically patrolling, watching us, right. 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:45.400 So the two guys have a little about the ball. 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:51.800 That's about the f So they didn't really fight. Toby's 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:55.000 shopping Freeze shot him. They emptied the clip. 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:58.040 Every twelve officers on the bike empty their clips because 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:01.119 you speak Coby. 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:00.600 Their clients. 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:02.640 And then when they were done, they're turning guns on 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.760 us and then now their person that's further further away 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.120 issue because they don't want us to tell you guys 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:10.960 what really happened when they could have Tasted and the 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:12.000 rest of them city in the jail. 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:13.760 They shot him, and they was going to shoot the 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:16.240 other guy and he ran, so they turn the guns. 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:21.680 Are about sixteen of us Robert, Yeah, yeah, so yeah, 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:22.360 they were others. 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:24.320 Why didn't shoot? Because I realized their guns were empty, 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:25.400 so they caught the backups. 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:27.160 And that's why they have more backups and more backups 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:30.040 and more backups, and that's why we are backing up. 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.000 Yeah, and is that the that's the plan now, is 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:33.400 my guest? 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:37.559 Yeah? Yeah, I don't know if they're they were the 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:38.000 r n C. 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:44.640 The yep, tear gas and masks. Well, thank you, Emmanuel, 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:53.280 nice to meet you. Yeah, yep, tear gas and masks. 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:58.640 Starting to feel like Portland again. And yeah, I would 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:00.679 say that what a manual said is can assistant. We 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:03.640 talked to two other people who had witnessed the shooting, 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:05.400 and then a couple other people who had been close by, 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:08.119 and they all agreed with the gist of what Emmanuel 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:08.520 had said. 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:11.720 Well, and Manuel told you something before he started recording 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:14.680 there about how like they felt this was like a 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:18.600 very very solvable problem. Yeah, for like the community, like 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:21.200 this is just like an average fight that they could 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:24.280 they could have ended themselves. Yeah, and you know, in 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:26.520 the next hour these people would have been friends again. 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:27.000 Yeah. 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:29.960 And instead police from out of state showed up and 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:30.760 just started shooting. 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:33.720 And that is what the initial thing we heard through 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:37.640 our you know, coworker who was talking to law enforcement 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:40.760 was a man had had a knife or knives, was 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:43.560 brandishing them. Police told him to drop, he didn't and 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:47.880 they had to shoot him. Locals on scenes said police 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:50.480 did not tell him to drop anything, ran up and 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:53.920 just started shooting. And as you heard from Manual, his 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.600 experience at the event was that police then turned their 0:10:56.640 --> 0:11:00.120 guns on the crowd, and you know, he felt threatened 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:02.720 deeply by this for reasons that are obvious. And I 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:05.400 will say that everyone we talked to in the neighborhood 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:09.040 had broadly consistent stories. This was not a serious fight, 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:11.880 This was not a thing that would have escalated to 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:15.200 lethal violence in the normal course of human events. But 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.920 a huge number of out of state cops rolled up 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:23.080 to the altercation unnecessarily and drew their guns and started shooting. 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:27.520 So there was a fairly nice homeless encampment. They had 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:30.400 a wonderful community garden, really nice garden, just like a 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.800 block away, and we figured, oh, this, this guy might 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.960 might have been houseless, And we started to talk to 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:39.800 more people who knew him, and yes, we found out 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:42.280 we actually walked right past his tent on the way 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:45.280 to the shooting. He had a tent by himself in 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:48.199 this little alleyway. I guess, Robert, you talked more to that, 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:50.040 to that guy that knew him. 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:52.199 I talked to a guy who knew him who he 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:55.080 said his nickname was Jehovah because he was at Jehovah's witness. 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:57.760 The guy who I was speaking to was a Muslim 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.000 and specifically stated to me, like, you know, I'm a Muslim, 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:01.880 he's a Jehovah's witness. But we always got along. He 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:04.560 was a really nice guy. He didn't deserve this like. 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:07.200 He wasn't a dude who generally caused problems. He was 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.960 not a dangerous person. He was maybe a guy who 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:11.440 was having a little bit of a heated moment with 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:13.400 another dude. And again there happened to be a bunch 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:15.400 of out of state cops who decided to make it 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:19.160 everyone's problem. That was his attitude. And a couple of 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:20.600 things were notewhere they I mean, we talked to a 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:22.600 woman who was kind of dropping her daughter off at 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:25.079 work who lived nearby. This is a lady who lived 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:27.120 in a little bit nicer of a neighborhood. She wasn't 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:30.360 quite there. An older black woman who was like, you know, 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:34.280 the cops show up to do this, but there's no cops, 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.480 Like if this had been any other time of the year, 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:38.400 there would have been no cops in this neighborhood ever 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:41.800 at all. Like they're never around when anybody wants them 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:43.680 to be, but they show up to kill a guy 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.040 because the RNC is in town. And that was very 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:50.040 much the consistent response we got from everyone in the neighborhood. 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:51.400 You know, we stayed there a while. 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:52.360 Yeah, that's what happened. 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:54.640 One of the things that I couldn't not notice is 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:57.880 once we were down in the RNC, you know, earlier 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:01.320 in the day, very cool, a lot of shame tall buildings. 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:07.319 When we were in that neighborhood near a fourteenth and Boulette. 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:10.079 Right outside the Martin Luther King Junior Community Center. 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:13.000 Yeah, sun was beating down us. There was very little cover, 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:17.240 it was very hot. The streets were notably poor repair, 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.679 the buildings were in a lot poorer repair. But there 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:24.160 was actually also evidence of like street life like here, 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:28.480 the RNC is, all of downtown Milwaukee has been sanitized, right. 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:31.080 They swept encampment's close to the R and Z perimeter 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:33.040 and stuff people have had to move around. 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:35.840 And no one you encounter lives here right not during 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:37.680 the event, that's just the way that it goes. A 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:40.160 lot of the local buildings are shut down. And one 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.080 of the things that was interesting about this was the 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:44.000 degree to which all of these people in the most 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:47.800 deprived neighborhood Milwaukee had a really clear understanding of what 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:50.520 had happened near and around them and knew each other. 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:52.680 And we're talking. There were a couple of people we 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:55.240 saw who were going around different chunks within a block 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:58.280 or two of each other and clearly knew all of 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:01.000 their neighbors, which was, you know, very different from kind 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:04.560 of the vibes that we've gotten Downtown Milwaukee is as 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:06.040 nice as it is, and I think we've all really 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:08.200 enjoyed this city, one of the most segregated cities in 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:11.400 the country. And that was very clear because I think 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:13.800 there was one white person who was a resident of 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:15.720 the neighborhood that we talked to, that woman who was 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:19.720 next to the guy who knew Jehovah, And I guess 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:21.280 that's most of what I have to say. 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:23.600 Yeah, I mean, more and more place kept showing up. 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:26.400 There was this basically like a riot squad with mace 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:28.840 and yah, gas masks showed up. You know, there was 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:32.000 biite cops, mounted patrol cops. They just they started to 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:34.720 flood this area. Eventually they slowly kind of you know, 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:37.920 dispersed out as this scene got more under control and 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:40.040 they realized there probably wasn't going to be a huge 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:43.080 protest at this location. I believe there's gonna be a 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:45.600 vigil tonight, Yeah, at eight pm near the side of 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:48.480 the shooting. So yeah, I mean it's just tough to 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:52.080 go from the RNC with you know, massive police presence 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:56.920 all of these extremely wealthy, rich white Republicans and then 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:01.080 be reminded the real people exist and yeah, put events 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.400 like this on people get killed by police to make 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:06.120 sure that that that people feel comfortable going to these 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.240 sorts of events and just completely unnecessarily. 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:09.960 Yeah, and that's. 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:11.920 That's just a good a good uh, A good reminder 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:13.960 every time I walk through one of these police checkpoints. 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:18.960 Yeah, Donald Donald Trump, you know, survived his brush with 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:22.440 the shooting. This young man didn't, and he died because 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:25.120 this event was set up in his town. We know 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:28.440 that the Secret Service and the you know, the other agencies, 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:30.480 because it wasn't just the Secret Service that was responsible 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:31.880 for Trump getting shot. There were a lot of other 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.480 law enforcement agencies there failed at their job, you know, 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:38.920 last Saturday to stop the former president from getting shot. 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:42.520 Failed very badly at that. But still at the RNC, 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:45.040 the only thing that the security State knows how to 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.640 do is flood the zone with cops. And the only 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:49.880 thing those cops know how to do is when they 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:53.160 encounter anything a little bit hostile, draw their guns and 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:57.880 empty them. You know, that was my impression, And uh yeah, 0:15:57.880 --> 0:15:59.640 I think that's probably all we need to say about 0:15:59.640 --> 0:15:59.960 that right now. 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:04.160 Now Sophie will tell us about her experience. As me 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:06.880 and Robert were walking around this side of this police 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:09.400 murder after this short break. 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:21.640 And we're back. Well, my colleagues were out on the ground. 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:26.600 I went to a super super fun event called Giving 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:31.760 Americans a Voice town hall hosted by the Moms for Liberty. 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:37.520 It was interesting, to say the least. It was a 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:41.880 three hour event with various long event very long, and 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.320 I recorded all of it so we can put that 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:46.040 out at a later date. Let me just give you 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:49.280 a quick rundown of what the event was. 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:53.120 And Moms for Liberty is as like a lobbying group 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:55.160 for parental Rights. 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.280 Very supportive of banning books. 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:59.040 Banning books, parental rights, a lot of stuff around education 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:02.520 in school. They they're very active in Washington. They're the 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:05.000 sponsor of a lot of these really really like horrible 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:09.719 bills about limiting information to children, limiting the rights of children, 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:10.480 that sort of thing. 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:16.040 Yeah, And additional sponsors for this event where Conservative Partnership Institute, Heritage. 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:18.240 Character Foundation, authors of Project twenty twenty. 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:20.800 Five, Young America's. I can't even read this logo. 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:24.360 It's like the Young Republicans Voting Association. 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:26.040 Young Americans Foundation. 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:27.600 We did it, great job. 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:32.120 And Public Square, which is a very strange app and 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:34.639 there were three panels and some of the people that 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:39.000 were featured on the panel were Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida. 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:41.280 Sara Huckabe Sanders made an appearance, Governor. 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:44.400 Sarah Huckabye Sanders, Scott Walker, the governor of Wisconsin. 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:46.160 The governor of Wisconsin was there. 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.520 He opened The governor, the governor of Wisconsin was there. 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:51.960 That's upsetting. He was like one of the first people 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:54.560 who spoke, not a senator, not the actual governor. 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:57.840 The forty fifth Governor, Jesus Wisconsin, Scott Walker, yes, correct, 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:03.600 various groups of attorneys general and get the Senator Oswell 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:08.200 Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, and it was it was it 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:09.720 was a strange event. 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:11.639 What sort of things do they talk about? 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:16.600 Well, they started off with them giving an excuse that 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:19.639 the reason why that there was an attempted assassination on 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:23.040 former President Trump was because of the media falseley compare 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:25.520 hip to Hitler, to which they said, there is only 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:26.480 one Hitler. 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:29.640 There's actually been quite a few Hitlers, although there's less. 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:31.639 Now also I would I would like for them to 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:37.440 feel that question to jd Vance But anyway. 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:37.760 Fair enough. And then there was, you know, as there 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:40.000