1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: All media. 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: Welcome back to it could happen here a podcast recorded 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: at the Republican National Convention, which I do not very 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: much like. We're having a great time. 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 3: Though, well not really. This is the worst day we've 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 3: had so far. 7 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: This is one of the worst days I've ever had. Yeah, 8 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: we did get to talk with Rudy Giuliani, which was 9 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 2: a highlight of the day. Hearing more about that later, 10 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: But first let's go around. Let you know who's going 11 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: to be talking on this episode. First off, we've got 12 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: Garrison Davis hello, finally identified as she her by the 13 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 2: Secret Service. 14 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 3: There you go. Congrats, They're going woke. 15 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 2: They're going woke. 16 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 3: That's why it happened. 17 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: That's what Rudy talked about, and I guess he was right. 18 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 2: And then speaking of woke, de. 19 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 3: Supervisor Sophie Lichterman, I've. 20 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: Had a day. 21 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 3: I'll bet make fun of me. 22 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: We are in the like the chunk of the there's 23 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: like the main stadium where all of the very red 24 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: and botox people give their speeches, and then there's this 25 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: part where all of the different media companies have booths 26 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 2: set up. Iheart's got a booth. 27 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: There a very large booth very. 28 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: Large booth, and we are kind of above that right 29 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: now because it's a relatively quiet place to record for 30 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: some visuals. 31 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: Here we are sitting in this part of a arena. 32 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 3: The Panther Arena, the Panther Arena. 33 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: There's red carpet everywhere, and there are cubicle style booths 34 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: for various publications. 35 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 3: Let's see, I see O A n. 36 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 4: We are sitting right above the iHeart to end the 37 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 4: Daily Wire booth. They have a whole wall of Matt Walsh, 38 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 4: a wall of walls wallsh if you will. 39 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: Bright Bart's got a tiny little cue, very small. 40 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 4: Frank'speach has a little booth. You know, a lot of 41 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 4: a lot of local radio, you know. 42 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: For there was that when we met Rudy earlier today, 43 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: he was that the wvo in booth, which is a 44 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: local radio station. They did not let him speak this 45 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: year at the r n C. Did not really seemed 46 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: to want him to be here. 47 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 3: That's too bad. 48 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: He claimed to be happy that that was the case. Well, yeah, 49 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: interesting guy. 50 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 3: Took a little tumble today. 51 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: Took a little tumble today, fell and then kept falling 52 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: on the floor of the event. Classic Rudy. And when 53 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 2: we went to lunch earlier and wound up in the 54 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: same room as Ted Cruz briefly, who was also at 55 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: that restaurant. A lady came up to us, a Republican 56 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 2: alternate delegate, and said, are you a band? 57 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: Are you musicians? You look like musicians? 58 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: Solely based off of Robert having tattoos. 59 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: I do think it was entirely based on the fact 60 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: that I have to. 61 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 3: Have We probably look cooler than anyone else here. 62 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, I said, we that's the first 63 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 2: time you've said that to me, Garrison, and it really 64 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 2: you know what, I I. 65 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 3: Took a convention. 66 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 4: I took a convention publish older than my grandparents. 67 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: I will say that at this restaurant, the restaurant worker 68 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: did give us all free shots of vodka because she 69 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: said we had looked like we had had a week 70 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: and boy, how do you Is she right? 71 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: I'm sure she's been having one too. 72 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, she was very nice. So Garon, Robert, you want 73 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: to take me we weren't together for most of today. 74 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: Do you want to take me through your day? And 75 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: then I can tell you about my really fun day? 76 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 4: Good? 77 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, So we'll start by talking about our morning. So 78 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: yesterday was a pro Palestine march that that was Monday 79 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: from Monday ference kind of build us a march on 80 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: the RNC. It was a sizable demonstration, at least five hundred. 81 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: At least five hundred uncleared to me the exact numbers, 82 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: but not tiny march is a little bit of a misnumber. 83 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: It was located in the park that's kind of closest 84 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: to the RNC security area today. It was a very 85 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: different vibe. There were counter protesters, but there were also 86 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 2: like there was like a church group who was there 87 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: with signs. 88 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 4: It's like a Westboro Baptist church styles street preacher group. 89 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: They do not like Catholics. 90 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 4: They don't like gay people or Catholics, or fornication or adultery, 91 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 4: that sort of thing. You know, if you can picture 92 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 4: the big signs that people carry around, it's. 93 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: That sounds sounds fun. Guys. 94 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 4: We saw an amazing T shirt today, Robert, do you 95 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 4: do you have a do you have a recollection of 96 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 4: the best T shirt that we saw today? 97 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: Oh God, is that the prolapsed rectum tissue is atal 98 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: sex equals prolapsed rectum? And then wow, god, it felt 99 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: like a John quote. There was a book of the 100 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 2: Bible that I know does not refer directly to prolapse. 101 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 3: Reptive romans romans Paul, so you know. 102 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: Paul was not talking about rectums. 103 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 4: Well, but Paul is the most homophobic out of all 104 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 4: the New Testament writers. But basically we talked to some 105 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 4: of these types of people gathered at this little this 106 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 4: little squares little park. There was maybe like one or 107 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 4: two people protesting the RNC itself, just holding signs, you know, 108 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 4: someone with a megaphone, But the rest of the people 109 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 4: gathered where these were these street preacher types. And then 110 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 4: we went over to this media section earlier this morning. 111 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 4: That's where we talked to our good are now good friend, 112 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 4: Rudy Giuliani. 113 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 2: So again, if you're picturing this floor, it's like a 114 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: bunch of large cubicles. So have you've ever been to 115 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: a trade show. It looks like a trade show, right, 116 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 2: But the cubicles is a different radio station or internet 117 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: media company. And Rudy was just sort of chilling at 118 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 2: a local radio station booth with Laura Lumer. When we 119 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 2: first walked up, amazing vibes, she thanked God left and 120 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 2: I will say Laura Lumer famous on the Internet for 121 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 2: looking very peculiar, one of the more normal looking people 122 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 2: at the RNC. 123 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 4: Which I don't think is a testament to how normal 124 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 4: Laura Lumer looks. It's a testament to the types of 125 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 4: people that we are seeing every day at the RNC 126 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 4: that everyone kind of looks a little lumor esque. Yeah, 127 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 4: so she looks a little bit less bizarre in comparison 128 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 4: to just everyone else we're seeing, who all has, you know, 129 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 4: a curious amount of facial surgeries, Yeah going on that 130 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 4: makes them just look just look a little different, just. 131 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: A little different. We saw the Fox News had anchored 132 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: today whose face was as smooth as a baby's ass. 133 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 3: It looked like carved marble. 134 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: It looked like carved marble, and was clearly bloated with 135 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:56,239 Speaker 2: Bachelin toxin. 136 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: Incredible. 137 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a beautiful man, Sophie. He was a beauty. 138 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: I think he uses retinal. 139 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 2: He must use retinal. And he had a chin as 140 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: wide as like Glory days Bruce Campbell. 141 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 3: Very wide face. 142 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: I bet he never forgot to wear sunscreen, unlike you two. 143 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 2: So yeah, kind of the last thing we did at 144 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: the convention before coming back was we had a little 145 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: conversation with Rudy primarily about Ukraine. His basic stance is 146 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 2: that Ukraine is stealing all of the money that the 147 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 2: government gives it. When I pointed out that that money 148 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 2: was primarily coming in military subsidies and like military weapons, 149 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 2: he said they were stealing the weapons and selling them. 150 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: And I asked who, and he said he didn't know, 151 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: at which point his handler got him out of there, 152 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 2: and we wound up walking over to the iHeart booth 153 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 2: where one of our coworkers, Dan O'Donnell, who's a more 154 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: conservative guy in the network, but who through a law 155 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: enforcement contact, got the story that a man had just 156 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 2: been shot outside of the RNC security zone, but by 157 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: police who were in town for the RNC. It wound 158 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 2: up that they are Columbus, Ohio police. So we rushed 159 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 2: down there, split up with him pretty quickly because I 160 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 2: think he was mostly interested and talking to the police 161 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 2: on scene, and we wound up right in the middle 162 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: of you know, what is the poorest neighborhood in Milwaukee, 163 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 2: the poorest zip code in the state, one of the 164 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 2: highest rates of incarceration in the country. It is a 165 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: deeply deprived area. The first guy we talked to, he 166 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: was with Lighthouse Ministries I think was the name of 167 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: the organization, which is essentially he was running like a 168 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: Christian halfway house, and we saw another larger halfway house 169 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: even closer to the shooting, Like there were two half 170 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: way houses effectively right next to each other. That's the 171 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: kind of neighborhood this was. And when we got there, 172 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: police had just started setting up cordons. They had started 173 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: it with about a block or two fenced off with 174 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: police tapes, but were widening at every few minutes. They 175 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 2: were adding new blocks, quickly expanding, and a large number 176 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: of cops were on scene. There were horse cops on scene. 177 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: We could not get close to them, about a block 178 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: from the site of the shooting itself, but we were 179 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: able to get into a park where there were a 180 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 2: lot of local people who were very angry at what 181 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: had happened. And one of the first things I encountered 182 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: was a couple of guys, you know, one of whom 183 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 2: was filming on his phone yell and got the police, 184 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: a couple of whom were sitting in lawn chairs, and 185 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: one of whom was speaking about like you know, who 186 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: had clearly witnessed the shooting, saying like you know, they 187 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: were just having an argument. If you'd let us the 188 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: neighborhood handle it, we would have handled it. The most 189 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: there would have been was a black guy. What the 190 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: fuck is wrong with you guys. We talked to him. 191 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 2: His name is Emmanual, And I'm actually just gonna play 192 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: a clip from that interview with the Manual right now. 193 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 5: Here's the on the bikes. I want to let you see. 194 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 6: So they parked in the King Center alley and they 195 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 6: were just basically patrolling, watching us, right. 196 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 5: So the two guys have a little about the ball. 197 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 5: That's about the f So they didn't really fight. Toby's 198 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 5: shopping Freeze shot him. They emptied the clip. 199 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 6: Every twelve officers on the bike empty their clips because 200 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,119 Speaker 6: you speak Coby. 201 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 5: Their clients. 202 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 6: And then when they were done, they're turning guns on 203 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 6: us and then now their person that's further further away 204 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 6: issue because they don't want us to tell you guys 205 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 6: what really happened when they could have Tasted and the 206 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 6: rest of them city in the jail. 207 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 5: They shot him, and they was going to shoot the 208 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 5: other guy and he ran, so they turn the guns. 209 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 6: Are about sixteen of us Robert, Yeah, yeah, so yeah, 210 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 6: they were others. 211 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 5: Why didn't shoot? Because I realized their guns were empty, 212 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 5: so they caught the backups. 213 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 6: And that's why they have more backups and more backups 214 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 6: and more backups, and that's why we are backing up. 215 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and is that the that's the plan now, is 216 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: my guest? 217 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, I don't know if they're they were the 218 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 5: r n C. 219 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: The yep, tear gas and masks. Well, thank you, Emmanuel, 220 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: nice to meet you. Yeah, yep, tear gas and masks. 221 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 2: Starting to feel like Portland again. And yeah, I would 222 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 2: say that what a manual said is can assistant. We 223 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: talked to two other people who had witnessed the shooting, 224 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: and then a couple other people who had been close by, 225 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,119 Speaker 2: and they all agreed with the gist of what Emmanuel 226 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 2: had said. 227 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 4: Well, and Manuel told you something before he started recording 228 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 4: there about how like they felt this was like a 229 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 4: very very solvable problem. Yeah, for like the community, like 230 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 4: this is just like an average fight that they could 231 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 4: they could have ended themselves. Yeah, and you know, in 232 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 4: the next hour these people would have been friends again. 233 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 234 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 4: And instead police from out of state showed up and 235 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 4: just started shooting. 236 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 2: And that is what the initial thing we heard through 237 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: our you know, coworker who was talking to law enforcement 238 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 2: was a man had had a knife or knives, was 239 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 2: brandishing them. Police told him to drop, he didn't and 240 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: they had to shoot him. Locals on scenes said police 241 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: did not tell him to drop anything, ran up and 242 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 2: just started shooting. And as you heard from Manual, his 243 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 2: experience at the event was that police then turned their 244 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 2: guns on the crowd, and you know, he felt threatened 245 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: deeply by this for reasons that are obvious. And I 246 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 2: will say that everyone we talked to in the neighborhood 247 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: had broadly consistent stories. This was not a serious fight, 248 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: This was not a thing that would have escalated to 249 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 2: lethal violence in the normal course of human events. But 250 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 2: a huge number of out of state cops rolled up 251 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 2: to the altercation unnecessarily and drew their guns and started shooting. 252 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 4: So there was a fairly nice homeless encampment. They had 253 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 4: a wonderful community garden, really nice garden, just like a 254 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 4: block away, and we figured, oh, this, this guy might 255 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 4: might have been houseless, And we started to talk to 256 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 4: more people who knew him, and yes, we found out 257 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 4: we actually walked right past his tent on the way 258 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 4: to the shooting. He had a tent by himself in 259 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 4: this little alleyway. I guess, Robert, you talked more to that, 260 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 4: to that guy that knew him. 261 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 2: I talked to a guy who knew him who he 262 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 2: said his nickname was Jehovah because he was at Jehovah's witness. 263 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 2: The guy who I was speaking to was a Muslim 264 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: and specifically stated to me, like, you know, I'm a Muslim, 265 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: he's a Jehovah's witness. But we always got along. He 266 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 2: was a really nice guy. He didn't deserve this like. 267 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 2: He wasn't a dude who generally caused problems. He was 268 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 2: not a dangerous person. He was maybe a guy who 269 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 2: was having a little bit of a heated moment with 270 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: another dude. And again there happened to be a bunch 271 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: of out of state cops who decided to make it 272 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: everyone's problem. That was his attitude. And a couple of 273 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: things were notewhere they I mean, we talked to a 274 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 2: woman who was kind of dropping her daughter off at 275 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 2: work who lived nearby. This is a lady who lived 276 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: in a little bit nicer of a neighborhood. She wasn't 277 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 2: quite there. An older black woman who was like, you know, 278 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: the cops show up to do this, but there's no cops, 279 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: Like if this had been any other time of the year, 280 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 2: there would have been no cops in this neighborhood ever 281 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: at all. Like they're never around when anybody wants them 282 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 2: to be, but they show up to kill a guy 283 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 2: because the RNC is in town. And that was very 284 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: much the consistent response we got from everyone in the neighborhood. 285 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 2: You know, we stayed there a while. 286 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what happened. 287 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 2: One of the things that I couldn't not notice is 288 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: once we were down in the RNC, you know, earlier 289 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 2: in the day, very cool, a lot of shame tall buildings. 290 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 2: When we were in that neighborhood near a fourteenth and Boulette. 291 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 4: Right outside the Martin Luther King Junior Community Center. 292 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, sun was beating down us. There was very little cover, 293 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 2: it was very hot. The streets were notably poor repair, 294 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 2: the buildings were in a lot poorer repair. But there 295 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 2: was actually also evidence of like street life like here, 296 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: the RNC is, all of downtown Milwaukee has been sanitized, right. 297 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 4: They swept encampment's close to the R and Z perimeter 298 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 4: and stuff people have had to move around. 299 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 2: And no one you encounter lives here right not during 300 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 2: the event, that's just the way that it goes. A 301 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: lot of the local buildings are shut down. And one 302 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 2: of the things that was interesting about this was the 303 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 2: degree to which all of these people in the most 304 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: deprived neighborhood Milwaukee had a really clear understanding of what 305 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: had happened near and around them and knew each other. 306 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 2: And we're talking. There were a couple of people we 307 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: saw who were going around different chunks within a block 308 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: or two of each other and clearly knew all of 309 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: their neighbors, which was, you know, very different from kind 310 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 2: of the vibes that we've gotten Downtown Milwaukee is as 311 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 2: nice as it is, and I think we've all really 312 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 2: enjoyed this city, one of the most segregated cities in 313 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: the country. And that was very clear because I think 314 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: there was one white person who was a resident of 315 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 2: the neighborhood that we talked to, that woman who was 316 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: next to the guy who knew Jehovah, And I guess 317 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: that's most of what I have to say. 318 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, more and more place kept showing up. 319 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 4: There was this basically like a riot squad with mace 320 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 4: and yah, gas masks showed up. You know, there was 321 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 4: biite cops, mounted patrol cops. They just they started to 322 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 4: flood this area. Eventually they slowly kind of you know, 323 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 4: dispersed out as this scene got more under control and 324 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 4: they realized there probably wasn't going to be a huge 325 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 4: protest at this location. I believe there's gonna be a 326 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 4: vigil tonight, Yeah, at eight pm near the side of 327 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 4: the shooting. So yeah, I mean it's just tough to 328 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 4: go from the RNC with you know, massive police presence 329 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 4: all of these extremely wealthy, rich white Republicans and then 330 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 4: be reminded the real people exist and yeah, put events 331 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 4: like this on people get killed by police to make 332 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 4: sure that that that people feel comfortable going to these 333 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 4: sorts of events and just completely unnecessarily. 334 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's. 335 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 4: That's just a good a good uh, A good reminder 336 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 4: every time I walk through one of these police checkpoints. 337 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Donald Donald Trump, you know, survived his brush with 338 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: the shooting. This young man didn't, and he died because 339 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: this event was set up in his town. We know 340 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: that the Secret Service and the you know, the other agencies, 341 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 2: because it wasn't just the Secret Service that was responsible 342 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 2: for Trump getting shot. There were a lot of other 343 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: law enforcement agencies there failed at their job, you know, 344 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 2: last Saturday to stop the former president from getting shot. 345 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 2: Failed very badly at that. But still at the RNC, 346 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: the only thing that the security State knows how to 347 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: do is flood the zone with cops. And the only 348 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: thing those cops know how to do is when they 349 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: encounter anything a little bit hostile, draw their guns and 350 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 2: empty them. You know, that was my impression, And uh yeah, 351 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: I think that's probably all we need to say about 352 00:15:59,640 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: that right now. 353 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 4: Now Sophie will tell us about her experience. As me 354 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 4: and Robert were walking around this side of this police 355 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 4: murder after this short break. 356 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: And we're back. Well, my colleagues were out on the ground. 357 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: I went to a super super fun event called Giving 358 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: Americans a Voice town hall hosted by the Moms for Liberty. 359 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: It was interesting, to say the least. It was a 360 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: three hour event with various long event very long, and 361 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: I recorded all of it so we can put that 362 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: out at a later date. Let me just give you 363 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: a quick rundown of what the event was. 364 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 4: And Moms for Liberty is as like a lobbying group 365 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 4: for parental Rights. 366 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: Very supportive of banning books. 367 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 4: Banning books, parental rights, a lot of stuff around education 368 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 4: in school. They they're very active in Washington. They're the 369 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 4: sponsor of a lot of these really really like horrible 370 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 4: bills about limiting information to children, limiting the rights of children, 371 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 4: that sort of thing. 372 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, And additional sponsors for this event where Conservative Partnership Institute, Heritage. 373 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 3: Character Foundation, authors of Project twenty twenty. 374 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: Five, Young America's. I can't even read this logo. 375 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 3: It's like the Young Republicans Voting Association. 376 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: Young Americans Foundation. 377 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 3: We did it, great job. 378 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: And Public Square, which is a very strange app and 379 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: there were three panels and some of the people that 380 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: were featured on the panel were Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida. 381 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 3: Sara Huckabe Sanders made an appearance, Governor. 382 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: Sarah Huckabye Sanders, Scott Walker, the governor of Wisconsin. 383 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 3: The governor of Wisconsin was there. 384 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: He opened The governor, the governor of Wisconsin was there. 385 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 4: That's upsetting. He was like one of the first people 386 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 4: who spoke, not a senator, not the actual governor. 387 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: The forty fifth Governor, Jesus Wisconsin, Scott Walker, yes, correct, 388 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: various groups of attorneys general and get the Senator Oswell 389 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, and it was it was it 390 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: was a strange event. 391 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 3: What sort of things do they talk about? 392 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: Well, they started off with them giving an excuse that 393 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: the reason why that there was an attempted assassination on 394 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: former President Trump was because of the media falseley compare 395 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: hip to Hitler, to which they said, there is only 396 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: one Hitler. 397 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 2: There's actually been quite a few Hitlers, although there's less. 398 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 4: Now also I would I would like for them to 399 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 4: feel that question to jd Vance But anyway. 400 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: Fair enough. And then there was, you know, as there 401 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: are at most of these events, there was a prayer 402 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: and I just thought it was super interesting that the 403 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: person giving the prayer referred to the panelists and various 404 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: speakers as great actors, which was just like an interesting 405 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: word choice to me. 406 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 4: This extensively like political actors, I would assume, but interesting associations. 407 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: And like one of the one of the main things 408 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: that they talked about this was education, and they said 409 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: their biggest issue that they have in the United States 410 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: is the creation of the federal Department of Education, and 411 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: that they were going to change that, which got huge, 412 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: huge cheers from the crowd. They claim that one of 413 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: the reasons why the young man had attempted to assassinate 414 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: Donald Trump was because he had gone to a large school. 415 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 3: They are very anti large school why. 416 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: Not, and that was one of the main reasons, as 417 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: well as the media referring to foreign President Trump as hitler. 418 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: They were adamant that teachers unions do not protect kids 419 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: and that they are only out for themselves, and that 420 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: all teachers' unions have been infiltrated by the left. 421 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 4: Well, that part is kind of drown yeah, but no, 422 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 4: I mean attacks on teachers unions are I've seen those 423 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 4: more in the past four years among a lot of 424 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 4: either like right wing influencers or actual politicians. The teachers' 425 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 4: unions is a very good boogeyman. Yeah, because some people, 426 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 4: you know, like their individual teachers. But no, no, no, the 427 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:01,959 Speaker 4: real problem is the teachers union. 428 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: Yes, that actual distinction was brought up multiple times. There 429 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: you go, there you go, And at one point somebody 430 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: in the back of the room dropped their phone, but 431 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: it was very loud and unsettling noise to the point 432 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: where everybody thought that it might have been a gun, 433 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: and everyone kind of understandably so jumped up and around. 434 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: Oh they're scared of guns. 435 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: Huh. 436 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 3: The Republicans really fucking babies. 437 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: And the overall energy is that they ate the federal government. 438 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: They want things to go back to a local level, 439 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: and that the Left is ruining and grooming children. Lots 440 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: of weird as you can imagine, stuff about gender, lots of. 441 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 2: Stuff about consistently got some of the biggest, biggest applause. 442 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: Oh something to note here. Anytime Elon Musk was brought up, 443 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: which was quite a bit, the crowd went bat shit. Yeah, 444 00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: huge wild cheers for anything to do with Elon, which 445 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: I thought was, you know, not unexpected, but just that, like, 446 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: he got louder cheers than I think he got a 447 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 1: louder cheer than when they brought up Donald Trump. 448 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 4: He's really one of their new great heroes. What did 449 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 4: the Attorney's General talk about? 450 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: They were mostly talking about different winds they had had 451 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: in terms of like their states and things they were 452 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: bringing the table, and mostly like personal stories of like 453 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: things that they look for in their family. The Missouri 454 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: Attorney General Andrew Bailey, his biggest reaction from the crowd 455 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: was when he said in Missouri, we don't co parent 456 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: with the government, and sure the crowd loved that. 457 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is a big, big, big parental 458 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 3: rights group. 459 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 4: And yeah, I'm intered in the attorney general because back 460 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three, the attorney's generals from a lot 461 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 4: of these red states drafted this this very angry, kind 462 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 4: of threatening letter to Target, kind of demanding that because 463 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 4: some of their states own like interest in Target, they 464 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 4: have to remove any kind of any products that cater 465 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 4: to trans people because this is betraying the investors by 466 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 4: making this poor economic decision. And really, the attorneys general 467 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 4: have been one of the strongest forces against trans rights 468 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 4: in a lot of these states. And I believe because 469 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 4: I showed up near the end of the attorney general's segment, 470 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 4: I believe they refer to themselves as like the last 471 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 4: line of defense. Even if you have like a democrat, 472 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 4: you know, like mayor, or you know you have more 473 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 4: democratic officials in like your city or state, the attorney's 474 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 4: generals are are like the ones that are going to 475 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 4: hold it down, even if the rest have kind. 476 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 3: Of sold out or are liberals Democrats. 477 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say the ags were the most transphobic 478 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: of the bunch. If I was doing ranking, which santas, Yeah, 479 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: one of them said, you know, in a laughing way, 480 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: which again got a great reaction from the crowd. Think 481 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: about a kindergartener saying what's your pronoun? 482 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 3: Very very funny ha ha ha ha. 483 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: They were laughing and hahaha about that. And just the 484 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: last thing I'll say about the ags was that that 485 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: same ag from Missouri said our rights come from God, 486 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: not man. 487 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 3: And famously in the Constitution. 488 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: Yes, anyways, and then DeSantis and Sarah Huckeby Sanders closed 489 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: it out. 490 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 3: Which we arrived for. 491 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 4: We arrived just in time to see DeSantis, Thank god, 492 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 4: Oh meatball Ron Dissentis and Huckeby Sanders got to be 493 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 4: the two most uncharismatic speakers I've seen at the convention 494 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 4: so far. 495 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: I'm not surprised they were both shunted off to the 496 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 2: I would call it the shame callus. So. 497 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 4: DeSantis was wearing jeans, which is just a fascinating move, 498 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 4: but these were very warm, very. 499 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: Warm, and essentially when he got up he basically did 500 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: like a brag list of all the things that he 501 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: has gotten done in. 502 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 4: Florida, talking about, you know, taking the fight to Disney, 503 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 4: enacting universal school choice, making sure that there's no sex 504 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 4: at in his schools. Very cool, and then, uh, you 505 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 4: talked oddly enough a lot about college. 506 00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: University is correct. 507 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 4: Yes, he was talking about how like, even if you 508 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 4: raise your kid, right, even if we fix you know, public. 509 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 2: Schools, you put in eighteen hard years. 510 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 4: He spent eighteen years raising your kid, You do it right, 511 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 4: we fix all of the public schools, everything's good. As 512 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 4: soon as they turn eighteen, they're gonna go after one 513 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 4: of these liberal colleges and they're gonna undo all of 514 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 4: the good work that you've put in, and that needs 515 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 4: to be the next thing to stop. And he said 516 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 4: that Florida is the first state to take on higher education. 517 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 4: We've had a lot of focus on lower education. We 518 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 4: now we have to take on higher education, including doing 519 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 4: like performance reviews for ten good professors every five years, 520 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 4: in which case they can be fired for poor performance, 521 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 4: which is kind of a wild concept for a Tenian professor. 522 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: He also had a one off wild line where he 523 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: was like, you did see Hamas over on our universities. 524 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 4: Yes, he referred to palestinating human rights campus protesters as Hamas, 525 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 4: just saying that they are Hamas, Like he didn't like say, 526 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 4: these people are like Hamas. You just said when Hamas 527 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 4: was coming to the universities, they didn't show up in Florida. 528 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 2: Which is a very standard Republican line. 529 00:24:58,840 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 3: It is. 530 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's just no difference between someone showing up to 531 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 4: a protest in the United States because they don't like 532 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 4: that thousands and thousands of Palestinians are being murdered, and 533 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 4: that person is now indistinguishable from Hamas according to the 534 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 4: Republican Party, according to all of these speakers. Yeah, and 535 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 4: so Sarah Sanders just tried to kind of write on 536 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 4: the coattails of disantist being like, hey, we're also plighting 537 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 4: the transgenders. 538 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: She did the same. She listed, you know, some of 539 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: her brags mentioned it always has to do she talks 540 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: about her dad. I wrote down something she said because 541 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: I was like, she said, the only war on women 542 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: is on conservative women from the far left. Where are 543 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: the feminists? They can't even tell you what a woman is. 544 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 4: Well, someone who's famously taken a woman's studies course where 545 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 4: they never define what a woman is totally because the 546 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 4: main upsetting thing for me because the police just killed 547 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 4: a black man a few hours ago. I was just reminded, 548 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,479 Speaker 4: you know, there's so many real people in Milwaukee, right. 549 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 4: All the food service workers have been very nice. So 550 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 4: there's all these real people facing real issues in the 551 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 4: poorest part of Milwaukee. And we just saw someone whose 552 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 4: life was ended because police were here for the RNC 553 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,479 Speaker 4: from a totally different state, and people with real economic concerns, 554 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 4: real concerns about, you know, their life from police brutality, 555 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 4: all this type of stuff. And as soon as you 556 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 4: walked into this Mom's for Liberty panel, the first thing 557 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 4: we heard them complaining about was that they were being 558 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 4: censored on Twitter, yep, and that that was their concern. 559 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 2: Joe Biden censored us. 560 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 4: Their hardest thing to them was that they find all 561 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 4: this gender stuff a little bit icky and that we're 562 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 4: being censored on Twitter. And that is the level of 563 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,239 Speaker 4: problems that these people are dealing well. 564 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 2: And our kids didn't turn into the people we wanted 565 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 2: them to. Yeah, and that should be the entire country's problem. 566 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 2: They are not fundamentally, they don't have real problems. These people, 567 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 2: they don't have real problems, but they are unhappy that 568 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 2: everyone in the world does not inherently act to serve 569 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 2: and validate them, and they are going to make that 570 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 2: everyone's promise. You know. That is what the RNC is. 571 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: The people on the floor are what you would call 572 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 2: like successful used car dealers, like level of capitalist, right, 573 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: and they are worshiping an alliance of venture capitalists, guys 574 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 2: like the VEC, guys like JD. Vance, and of course 575 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 2: people who inherited a shitload of wealth and then eventually 576 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 2: succeeded in making money through a combination of vice casinos 577 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: and the entertainment industry. Trump, you know, like that's that's 578 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:28,719 Speaker 2: who this is. 579 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: And uh, speaking of a VIC. As we were getting 580 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: up to leave, they quickly announced that there was one 581 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: more person who was going to speak, and it was him. 582 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, he sure did speak. He gave a speech that 583 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 4: I would say was indistinguishable from AI. Yes, just about 584 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 4: how how good America can be and even though we're 585 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 4: a to GPT could, even though we're in a tough spot 586 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 4: right now, I feel like America can do better. And 587 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 4: it was just it was like I could predict every 588 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 4: other word. Yeah, hey, this is gear recording. Just outside 589 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 4: of the main arena at the rn c where Governor 590 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 4: Greg Aba just gave a speed and now I'm giving 591 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 4: you a short speech to tell you to enjoy these 592 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 4: messages from our sponsors. 593 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 3: We'll be right back. This is Robert M. 594 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 4: Garrison recording from our hotel room later in the night, 595 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 4: because we have learned some new information about the police 596 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 4: killing that happened earlier today, and also we listened to 597 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 4: a whole bunch of the RNC closing speeches tonight which 598 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 4: kind of relate to this question of police violence. 599 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 3: I'll hand this off to Robert. 600 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, so since we were down there, the 601 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 2: police have released both their security camera footage body camera footage, 602 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 2: and we have the name of the decedent, who was 603 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 2: Samuel Sharp Junior. This is the guy everyone in the 604 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 2: neighborhood identified as Jehovah, and that was the nickname that 605 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 2: he went by. He looked younger. I've seen some reports 606 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 2: that he was like forty three, but he doesn't look 607 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 2: forty three from the footage, you know, and he had 608 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 2: just he had used a community shower earlier that day 609 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 2: that comes by the neighborhood for some of the homeless folks, 610 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: and you know everyone he loved them. Footage is I 611 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 2: understand like exactly how it's going to be used and 612 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 2: already as being used by the police, And I understand 613 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 2: what they're saying, which is that if you look at 614 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 2: the footage, is they rush on scene, I think about 615 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 2: fifteen of them. Five of them fired at once and 616 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 2: immediately open fire. You can see from a distance the 617 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 2: two guys are five to seven feet apart and are 618 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: kind of crossing the street together while it looks like 619 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: they are yelling as the police rush in, Samuel runs forward, 620 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 2: and if you clip frames out of the video, you 621 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 2: can make a case that he was charging the guy 622 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 2: with his knife or knives. Police are saying multiple It's 623 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 2: a little unclear to me in the footage if he 624 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 2: had two or just one. But I can see how 625 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: the police showing up un scene, being trained the way 626 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 2: that they are, why they opened fire. The problem is 627 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 2: that he ran forward in the first place, because they 628 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 2: rushed in, like these two guys were squared up on 629 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 2: the street and not in an encounter that any of 630 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 2: the locals considered to be particularly threatening. If you have 631 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 2: spent a lot of time around homeless encampments, if you 632 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,479 Speaker 2: have spent a lot of time in neighborhoods that have 633 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: a lot of homeless residence, it is not wild or 634 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 2: uncommon to see people yelling and to see people with 635 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 2: knives on their person, you know, even in their hands. Obviously, 636 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 2: that can be upsetting to some people. But like the 637 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 2: folks who lived in the neighborhood did not consider this 638 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 2: an odd circumstance and with something that, in the normal 639 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 2: circumstance of events and the normal following of events, would 640 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 2: have been de escalated. And in this case it wasn't 641 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 2: the police open fire before there was any attempt at 642 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 2: de escalation. 643 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, And like conservatives will always point out, you know, 644 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 4: why is he just following orders? Why isn't he just 645 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 4: just doing blah blah blah blah blah. They will they 646 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 4: will take they'll take low screenshots that make something look 647 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 4: a certain way. And the simple fact is that these 648 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 4: two men were not in any physical altercation before police arrived. 649 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 4: He started running away as police started charging towards him. 650 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 4: I think it would be very odd that he would 651 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 4: choose that moment to suddenly lunge forward and stab this 652 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 4: person he knew. And I think it's very clear that 653 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 4: he's actually just running away from police. As people often do, 654 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 4: and police have a long history of just shooting at 655 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 4: people and killing people who are running away. You can 656 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 4: look at what happened at the Wendy's in Atlanta in 657 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,959 Speaker 4: twenty twenty. They shoot people when they don't follow what 658 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 4: they're saying. They shoot people when people try to run 659 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 4: away from them, and that's just how cops work. So 660 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 4: this video came out later in the evening, right as 661 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 4: me and Robert arrived at the RNC second session. And 662 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 4: the theme today for the RNC is make America Safe Again. 663 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 4: And some of the first few speeches I heard, one 664 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 4: was from the mayor of Dallas, Eric Johnson. 665 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 7: Democrats in power demonstrate they don't care about stopping the killers. 666 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 5: Or the thieves who. 667 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 7: Terrorize black and brown communities. They don't care about securing 668 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 7: our border, and they don't care about dangerous homeless encampments. 669 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 2: And then there was also like a police chief who 670 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 2: spoke a former police chief who now runs a charity 671 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 2: I think for like wounded police officers. Yeah, but he's 672 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 2: like a cop who is also an activist. 673 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 4: And so all this framing is around talking about how 674 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 4: the Democrats are the defund the police party, how Joe 675 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 4: Biden and Kamala Harris themselves advocate for defunding the police, 676 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 4: which is simply not true if you look at what 677 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 4: they say. Joe Biden will always reiterate that he always 678 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 4: has argued for more police funding, for more police training. 679 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 4: But they have framdous issue as there are not enough 680 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 4: police around. That's what is making cities dangerous. Talking about 681 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 4: you know, all the people dying of violent crime. Not 682 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 4: a single mention, of course, that the out of state 683 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 4: police just killed someone a mile away from the Republican 684 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 4: National Convention. The make America Safe Again rhetoric shifted towards 685 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 4: you know, border rhetoric. You know, people believing genuinely the 686 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 4: people that are speaking in the audience that we currently 687 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 4: live under an open border policy that people can just 688 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 4: walk in totally fine. Just a complete alterned reality view 689 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 4: about what's going on in America, about what Joe Biden 690 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 4: and Kamala Harris's border policies are. And there was a 691 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 4: number of speachurees that that tried to capitalize on this 692 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 4: on this almost like border framing up, like there's isis 693 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 4: terrorists pouring into the border only under Joe Biden, right, 694 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 4: as if no one ever crossed the border illegally under 695 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 4: Donald Trump. I know what, Robert you, You were talking 696 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 4: about some of the Ted Cruz speech tonight on his 697 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 4: comments around the border. 698 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Cruz was interesting. I've never considered him a 699 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 2: particularly strong speaker, and coming out, he initially went into 700 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 2: kind of a conspiracy theory that you'll hear on the 701 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 2: right about people being trafficked, sex trafficked, kids being sex 702 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 2: traffic across the border. He made a comment about them 703 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 2: having colored wristbands, which is again not a thing that happens, 704 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 2: but a reference to a widely believed right wing conspiracy, 705 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 2: and that got kind of a scattered amount of applause. 706 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 2: Not not what I would call a reaction, given how 707 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,479 Speaker 2: he saw the crowd react, Marjorie Taylor Green and how 708 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 2: we saw them react, you know, whenever Trump comes out 709 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 2: very muted. But as it went on, he started going 710 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 2: into this kind of fear mongering spiel about migrants. He 711 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 2: talked about the woman in San Francisco who was killed 712 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 2: by that guy who found a gun in a bag 713 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 2: and accidentally fired it. He talked about a number of 714 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 2: different other cases that were people not from the country, 715 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 2: undocumented immigrants, who killed generally white Americans. And every time 716 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 2: he would tell a story, he had like a refrain 717 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 2: line that was something and that's what happens every damn 718 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 2: time or something. And every time he gave the refrain, 719 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 2: more and more people started to cheer in the audience. 720 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 2: And by the end of it, with the last kind 721 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 2: of couple of cases of migrant on white people crime 722 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 2: he brought up, the crowd was like legitimately roaring like 723 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 2: as much as they did for Marjorie Taylor Green. Now 724 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 2: the cop that came up next got a much louder response, 725 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 2: and by far the biggest response of the night, even 726 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 2: maybe including Trump, was when the delegates on the floor 727 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 2: launched into a series of back the Blue chants. They 728 00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:00,439 Speaker 2: actually interrupted the cop with back the Blue chants. Were 729 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 2: roaring for that. 730 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a lot of a lot of these chants. 731 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 4: And the Dallas mayor told a really funny story how 732 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty, some like anti police or defund the 733 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 4: police activists to shut up around his neighborhood to try to, 734 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 4: you know, get him to defund the police, and he 735 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,720 Speaker 4: got so scared by this that he changed from being 736 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 4: a Democrat mayor to a Republican mayor and now he 737 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 4: runs the biggest Republican led city in the country. And 738 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 4: he had this comment talking about how he grew up 739 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 4: in you know, poor black neighborhoods and the thing that 740 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 4: they've always wanted, the thing that makes them safer, is 741 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 4: more cops, not less cops. Both. 742 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 7: I grew up in high prime neighborhoods. What we wanted 743 00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 7: was more. 744 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 5: And better, not less. 745 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 4: And just contrasting that with our experiences today in a 746 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 4: very poor black community that just suffered an incident of 747 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 4: police killing. That is that is just a lie, right, like, 748 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 4: and like everyone knows this. This is theater for the convention. 749 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 4: Everyone at the convention is really into this sort of thing. 750 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 4: They genuinely believe this sort of stuff, but it's just 751 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 4: an alternate reality. We spend time one of the poorest 752 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 4: zip codes in the country and the state today and no, 753 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 4: it's that's simply not true. 754 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, these these people are angry about primarily theoretical problems. 755 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 2: You know, this kind of specter of migrant crime, which 756 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 2: is not really real in a demographic you can pick 757 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 2: out individual cases of that, but you can pick out 758 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 2: individual cases of doctors stabbing people to death, and that 759 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 2: doesn't mean we have a wave of doctor related crime, right. 760 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 2: The reality of the situation is that, like, these are 761 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 2: super fans of the Republican Party, and they are super 762 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 2: fans of the narrative, and they are cheering for some 763 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 2: of the moments, you know, they're not There's some stuff 764 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 2: that's gotten boring to them. I kind of think the 765 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 2: child traffick at conspiracy theories might be boring to them, 766 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,439 Speaker 2: maybe because that guy from the child trafficking movie got 767 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 2: disgraced or whatever. There's not as interested. So you can 768 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 2: see every now and then as like their interest in 769 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 2: certain things fades. But they're reacting like an audience that 770 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 2: like a comic con would to see in like a 771 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 2: Star Wars trailer where some guy does a thing that's 772 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 2: evidence of having the comics or whatever. The people I'm 773 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 2: waiting to see, like when fucking DeSantis comes on and 774 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 2: starts talking about banning children from receiving gender affirming care, 775 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 2: that's like fucking Spider Man showing up, right, and they 776 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 2: react like the guy next to us when DeSantis started 777 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 2: doing this, started screaming and like sticking his fist out 778 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 2: towards DeSantis and like yelling at it a volume that 779 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 2: was honestly kind of surprising the man could project. I'll 780 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 2: give him that. So I think ultimately the way I 781 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 2: would sum this up is that these are not normal people. 782 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 2: These are people who love politics. And again, to be clear, 783 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 2: I'm not saying these are not normal people. Can They're conservative. 784 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 2: My entire family are conservative, a lot of them are 785 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 2: Trump voters, but they would find this audience deeply weird 786 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 2: because these people are politics fans, and even most of 787 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 2: the conservatives I know really dislike politics. Most normal people do. 788 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 2: And I guess that's kind of where I've concluded, is 789 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 2: the difference between like the crazies and the normies. Normal 790 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 2: people don't enjoy this stuff. 791 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,359 Speaker 4: The term I've used the past few years is politics 792 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 4: as fandom, and that's all this fucking is. This is 793 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 4: this is a convention, just like comic con, just like 794 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 4: an anime con. This is a convention, and that is 795 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 4: how they view politics. Anyway, back to the past versions 796 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 4: of us to discuss a funny closing story regarding presidential footwear. 797 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 4: So that has been our day so far. The last 798 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 4: thing I say we'll leave you with is on our 799 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 4: way to the convention site, this morning, we were walking 800 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 4: through this hotel to get through security and we found 801 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 4: this wonderful section. It was it it was called the 802 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 4: Sidential Experience. We walked in. There was a there was 803 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 4: a replica of the Oval Office. I was told Reagan 804 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 4: era Oval Office. 805 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 2: It was. 806 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:08,879 Speaker 3: It was pretty good, and it was pretty good. 807 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:14,240 Speaker 2: It was not good Netflix production, but like Netflix production 808 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 2: level quality. 809 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 4: Bad Netflix production quality. So we walked through and then 810 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 4: we found just a glorious site. And I will let 811 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 4: Past Robert and myself tell you what we found at 812 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 4: the Presidential Experience. We are hearing the Presidential shoe section. 813 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 4: We got Harry Truman, Nixon, Gerald Ford, Reagan, Warren G. Harding, 814 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 4: who has a quote charming spat requested by President Harding 815 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 4: and sympathized the elegance of the Victorian era. Dwight Eisenhower's 816 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 4: shoes are pretty good. JFKs are a little bit more 817 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 4: fancy but less polished. 818 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 3: Lyndon B. 819 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 4: Johnson's completely unsurprising, very very versatile, very efficient, can get 820 00:39:55,520 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 4: off easy, slip on and off, get those dogs out 821 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 4: when you need to. Abe Lincoln has some honestly very 822 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 4: stylish boots. Theodore Roosevelt's as well large foot on Theodore 823 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 4: and Woodrow Wilson's shoes, the only white shoe in the bunch. 824 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 4: Very small, tiny feet, very small feet. Kind of surprisingly 825 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 4: he's it says he chose fashion over tradition with these 826 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 4: white buckskins. Also, they have Ulysses s. Grant's little little 827 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 4: riding boots. The Victorian boots are are very very stylish. 828 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 4: But honestly, I think I would go with Dwight D. Eisenhower's. 829 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 4: They're just a beautiful, a beautiful shoe. Reagan's aren't bad, 830 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 4: but I don't know. The Eisenhower shoes just a little 831 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 4: bit more elegant. 832 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 8: I'm going for LBJ slip on life. 833 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 3: That makes sense for you. 834 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 8: That shows you're a man who's got things to do. 835 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 8: You know, you don't have time to be tie in 836 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 8: your shoes. 837 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 4: No, that that that makes sense, That makes sense. Nick 838 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 4: Nixons and Kennedy's are very similar. 839 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 3: Process or, I will tell. 840 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 4: You the truth. Pretty good. It looks like this was 841 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 4: presented by c Span this presidential experience. We have a 842 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 4: Reagan era replica of the Oval Office, not a big room, 843 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 4: not a big room, but overall of decent, decent replica. 844 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 3: Nice JFK portrait Up there. 845 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,760 Speaker 2: There's a women's suffrage article, Wally. 846 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 4: Interesting women's suffrage little table. Very controversial topic among Republicans 847 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:28,320 Speaker 4: these days. 848 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 8: It has gotten to be increasingly so. 849 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 3: Some old Pennsylvania Packet and Daily. 850 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 8: Advertiser newspapers from seventeen eighty seven. Oh yeah, so this 851 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 8: is I guess the original Pennsylvania newspaper coverage and printing 852 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 8: of the. 853 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 3: Seventeen eighty seven. 854 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, of the Constitution. Yeah, there's the preamble right there. Yeah, 855 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 8: and they spell established Justice as. 856 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,919 Speaker 2: A thab lith just fifth, because that's a yieldie days, 857 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 2: a lot a lot more f's back in the day. 858 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, But they have these little information placards about all 859 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 4: the presidents, the first ladies, that kind of stuff. We'll 860 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 4: try to talk to the to the organizer of this 861 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 4: little shindig in a sect. But honestly, the shoe, the 862 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 4: shoe section, it's the most interesting thing to me just 863 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 4: because of how tiny, just just how tiny those Woodrow 864 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 4: Wilson choos are. 865 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 8: Hey, Jay, that's that's a that's a that's a long foot. 866 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 2: It's not a wide foot. 867 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 4: Roosevelt's feet are pretty wide. U. S. Grant also very 868 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 4: small also very small feet. Hmmm, yeah, you know what 869 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 4: they say about him? 870 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 3: Anyway, who's your favorite president? 871 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 2: Favorite? 872 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 8: Honestly? You know, I I I think I gotta go 873 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 8: with US Grant. He's He's not my favorite president in 874 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:50,879 Speaker 8: terms of what he did in office, but in terms 875 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 8: of like as a person, sure, he's the US president 876 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 8: that I think was probably the the best person like 877 00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 8: he really did try. 878 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 3: Always been a Harrison fan myself. 879 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, William Henry. He was my favorite ass president. 880 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 4: Right, also rhymes with my first name, So a little 881 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:09,879 Speaker 4: bit of a bias there. 882 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 2: He really I like a man who there. There's not 883 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,359 Speaker 2: much like fat on that presidency. 884 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 3: He really efficient, efficient, efficient time in office. 885 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 2: You got in and out. 886 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 3: Wow, very exciting. All those little feet. 887 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,399 Speaker 2: I can't stop thinking about. You know what I think 888 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,839 Speaker 2: about that's the weirdest is that they did not have 889 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 2: they didn't have any bush feet. Sadly, well, they didn't 890 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,399 Speaker 2: have bush feet. And there was one guy who they 891 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,320 Speaker 2: didn't have his shoes. They just had the US Grant. 892 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 2: They just had they had like the model that they 893 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 2: built the shoe around for him, Yes, which was weird. 894 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 2: I was like, where's your where's your US grant shoe. 895 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 2: You don't want to show us the hardest working man 896 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 2: whoever lived to be president. 897 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,800 Speaker 4: But yeah, no, I thought that was some important breaking 898 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,360 Speaker 4: news for our listeners to hear who had the smallest foot. 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