1 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature future production of iHeartRadio. I'm your host 2 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology and evolutionary biology, 3 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: and today on the show Eggs. I like your eggs 4 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: over easy, scrambled, fried, hard boiled, whatever you like. There 5 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: are so many eggs in the animal kingdom, and they 6 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: can be bonkers, from tiny camouflaged works of art to 7 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: very strange but ingeniously shaped eggs. We are taking eggs 8 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: to a whole new level. Discover this and more as 9 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: we answer the age old question when does giving birth 10 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: coincide with home improvement? Joining me today is friend of 11 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: the show, my close and personal friend, podcasting buddy, host 12 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: of the podcast Secretly Incredibly Fascinating, which I'm also on 13 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: that one too, Alex Schmidt. Welcome. 14 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 2: It's so good to be here. Thank you for having 15 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: me for eggs, a thing I don't think enough about. 16 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: Nobody thinks enough about eggs. 17 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. I also feel like I have learned from various 18 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: friends and so on that different American accents kind of 19 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: say the word differently, So I hope everyone's comfortable with 20 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,919 Speaker 2: how I say the word eggs. Sometimes eggs varies eggs. 21 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: I feel like I say eggs. I don't know how 22 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: do other people say it? Eggs? Eggs? 23 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: Like eggs? 24 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: Eggs? Yeah, I say eggs. 25 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 2: I think I usually say eggs and sometimes I go 26 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: eggs a little bit. And so we'll see what happens 27 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: to me as we go on this journey. 28 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: Either way is excellent. So we're going to talk about 29 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: some really interesting eggs. There are a lot of animals, 30 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: from insects to monotremes that lay eggs and they are 31 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: all very very interesting. So Alex, you like a stick bug? 32 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, especially I've only ever seen them in like zoos, 33 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: but there will tend to be in a reptile house, 34 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 2: maybe a little cubby where there's a stick insects living 35 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: out of plant and it's awesome. 36 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. I love the bug house. Like the San Diego Zoo. 37 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: They have all sorts of cool insects and there's always 38 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: a stick guy in there, just being sticky, going around 39 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: like a stick. Stick insects belong to the fasmid order. 40 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: We mostly think of them as these small brown, stick 41 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: like bugs, but they can also be green. Rarely, they 42 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: can be bright colors, such as stick insects found in 43 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: Madagascar who can be bright blue and orange when males 44 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: reach maturity, but most stick. 45 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: Insects blue and orange. 46 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, charges Iago. 47 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: Bears football value like it feels great? 48 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: Wait, Chargers is yellow and blue. You're right? Wait what's it's? 49 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: Uh? 50 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 1: The Chicago Bulls Bears Bears, Bears Bears. 51 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 2: I don't watch football anymore, but the culture is meaningful 52 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 2: to me. Through an orange everyone can see you coming 53 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: from you. 54 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: Guys, got a stick bug who's a fan? So that's something. 55 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, most stick insects do go for camouflage. They 56 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: try to mimic green or brown sticks or vegetation. Even 57 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: really big stick insects try to blend in with their environment, 58 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: such as uh Tinomorpha gargantua, which is the gargantuan stick 59 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: insect found in Australia. Females can grow almost two feet long, 60 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: which is over fifty five centimeters. Males only grow a 61 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: fraction of this in are thinner, which enables them to fly. 62 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: For most stick bugs, the females are too thick to fly, 63 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: too big, and the males are the ones that can fly. 64 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: So then yeah, the bigger females are flightless and their 65 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: brown branch like appearance allows them to blend in with 66 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: the forest canopy despite being so huge. 67 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, two feet is a branch. 68 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: It's a branch. That's a branch bug. It's not a 69 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: stick bug. That's a branch bug. Yeah. 70 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 2: Like, you can't throw it to your dog, you're like 71 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: too big. Put it down a different stick. 72 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: Oh no, this poor. Imagine throwing the stick insect to 73 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: your dogs like, oh no, not that kind of stick. 74 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: Hopefully become best friends. 75 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be I would love that story. A 76 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: Pixar movie about a dog and a stick insect and 77 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: their adventures together. Sounds good. 78 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: Carries around their friend. 79 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: Hey yeah, and then they go and fight the Nazis 80 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: or something anyways, so really escalated. Wow. So, these gargantuan 81 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: stick insects, as well as other species of fasmids, lay eggs, 82 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: either through sexual reproduction with a female with the eggs 83 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: and a male fertilizing the eggs, or if the female 84 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: gets no male takers, they can actually reproduce through parthenogenesis, 85 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: meaning that she can lay unfertilized clonal eggs. So you know, 86 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: if you can't find yourself a man, just pop out 87 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: a few clones of yourself and call it a day. 88 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 2: Right, that is double pressure from your parents. Why haven't 89 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 2: you found a partner? And also why haven't you parthenogenesis? 90 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: Some grandchildren for us, I guess they don't say it because, 91 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: like me, they stumble over saying the words, but otherwise 92 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: they will bring it up. 93 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: I feel like parent Yeah, like parental guilt about having 94 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 1: children would be trickier if they had to say parthenogenesis 95 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: every single time. So, you know, one little obstacle. 96 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: But yeah, frustrated dad is just like, why haven't your 97 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: Parthenon's I'm not learning the just Parthenon, come on, make 98 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: a Greek temple. 99 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: Not being on them face blocks and Parthenon a kid already. 100 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, the eggs of stick bugs are actually no 101 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: less fascinating than the stick bugs themselves because the eggs 102 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: are also camouflaged. And Alex, I want to I want 103 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: you to guess what the eggs of a stick insect 104 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: might be camouflaged as, Like, the. 105 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 2: Really fun one would be berries, right, or nuts or something. 106 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: You are something you are so close. So the eggs 107 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: of many stickbug species mimic plant seeds, So isn't that cute? 108 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: It's a stick buzz that's cool. Their eggs look like seeds. 109 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 2: They're just really doing at this point, they're larpang as 110 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 2: a tree. They're doing all the parts. 111 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: It's a hardcore sort of fandom where they're naming their 112 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: kids after trees. They're dressing up their kids as seeds. 113 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: It's a little bit dorky. 114 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, like are they going to make a wikia 115 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: about free cannon and information? 116 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: Now? 117 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: Like how deep is this gonna go? 118 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? I feel like stick insects are already pretty just 119 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: nerdy when you look at them, and then you add 120 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: in this whole this whole plant fixation. It's it's it's 121 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: it's endearing. Though, So the eggs mimic the seeds of 122 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: local plants. Depending on where the stick insects live, the 123 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: mimicry can be very refined in certain stick insects species. So, 124 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: for instance, the giant prickly stick insect lays eggs that 125 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: look like seeds with a knob like growth, and then 126 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: these fake seeds, which are actually the eggs of the 127 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: prickly stick insect, are actually carried off by spider ants 128 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: into their colony because these ants often pick up seeds 129 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: and bring them back to their colony. Because the ants 130 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: eat these seeds. They actually eat a part of these seeds, 131 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: this like nutritious knob on these seeds. And you might 132 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: be asking, well, why would you want to disguise yourself 133 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: as food for another animal, which is a great question. 134 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: And the ants only eat part of the fake seed eggs, 135 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: so that like knob like growth on the egg that 136 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: mimics a seed is called a capitulum, and the capitulum 137 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: is full of nutrients, but eating it does not damage 138 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 1: the growing prickly stick bug larvae inside the egg. So 139 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: essentially it's like gives the ants a little gift, which 140 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: is a little bit of edible part of the egg 141 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: case because the ant thinks it's a seed. But then 142 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,599 Speaker 1: the prickly stick insect continues to develop and when it hatches, 143 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: its juvenile form mimics the spider ant, so it can 144 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: proceed to be protected by this ant colony. So why 145 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: does it want to be in the ant colony? Because 146 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: ant colonies are full of protective soldier ants who will 147 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: mess up whatever is trying to get inside of the 148 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: ant colony. So this little juvenile stick bug mimics the ants, 149 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: and then finally, as it develops, older juveniles will start 150 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: to look like bark, and then finally its adult morph 151 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: looks like crumpled leaves. It's fantastic. It goes through this 152 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: whole life cycle from an egg that looks like a 153 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: little seed that tricks ants, then they look like the 154 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: ants themselves, then they look like bark, and then they 155 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: look like crumpled leaves. Incredible. 156 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 2: They did not need to go this hard and no 157 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 2: mimicking one thing is a lot, and they decided I'm 158 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 2: going to have a different mimicry for each life stage. 159 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: There are seasons to my life, and I'm going to 160 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 2: be an autumn chapter. When I'm a crippled leaf, I'm 161 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 2: going to be like you guys in the are they 162 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: called spider ants. The spider ant yell, which sounds like 163 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 2: two bugs to me. This is a lot. This is great. 164 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: Yes, it's fantastic. There's this wonderful National Geographic article that 165 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: shows a photo by by Levon Biss in this National 166 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 1: Geographic article about these these fasmin eggs, and they are 167 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: I'll provide a link to both the National Geographic article 168 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: and to this photographer's website in the show notes. But 169 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: they're absolutely beautiful. They look like these intricate wood carvings. 170 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: Now in this photo they look big, but this is 171 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: like a macro photography. These are actually really really tiny, 172 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: like think really tiny head of a pin seeds. So 173 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: when you can look at them though, when they're blown 174 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: up and you look at them in detail, they are 175 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: incredible looking. They're all sorts of different shapes. There's like, uh, 176 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: there's sort of more conical shapes, there's oval shapes. There's 177 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: even some that look like a weird like almost like 178 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: a totem pole or like a it's a rod with 179 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: like these little holes carved into it. It's just they're 180 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: so beautiful. 181 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is so much to get up to as 182 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: a juvenile or infants bug, right, Yeah, like I aged 183 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 2: many years before I did anything besides poop and cry, 184 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 2: and these these bugs are really on the ball immediately, 185 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: They're like, I'm immediately an HR Geeker figure in a 186 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 2: positive way. Look at my phenomenal weird nature art. 187 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: I'm still at the stage of pooping and crying a lot. 188 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: You know a lot of what I get up to. 189 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 2: It's our break from podcasting, it's what we do. 190 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: We recharge and I'm afraid of being ashamed of it. Yeah, 191 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: but I do. I just love the complicated lifestyle of 192 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: like basically from birth to the end, like they are 193 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: always tricking. Ye, there are always life's of stage for 194 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: these fasmids. 195 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, because that that was so many schemes. You're a 196 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 2: tree seed and then part of you is eaten by ants, 197 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 2: and then you pretend to be an ant, and then 198 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 2: you pretended to be like bark crumpled leaf, and I 199 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: think something else before that. 200 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: It was bark before crumpled leaf. But yeah, exactly, It's just. 201 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 2: It even sounds hard to do bark before leaf. I 202 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 2: would think leaf would be dinner easier. This is a lot, 203 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 2: it's a lot of scheme. I recently saw a show 204 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: called Lupan that is on US Netflix, where it's a 205 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: French show of about a master thief who also disguises 206 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: and elaborate schemes, and I keep I'm just thinking of 207 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 2: this guy telling his French friend about a plan to 208 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: be various bugs of eggs. 209 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: It does. It feels like an ocean's eleven, but for insects, 210 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: it's so convoluted it doesn't. It seems like a fake, bad, 211 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: fake movie script of the insect world. But it's real. 212 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: It's amazing. 213 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and this picture is Bucker's. I'm glad you're looking 214 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 2: it for everyone. 215 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just definitely check out that National Geographic article 216 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: and the photographer's website because it's beautiful, absolutely beautiful. Well, 217 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: we are going to take a quick break and when 218 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: we get back, we are going to talk about another egg, 219 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: which is like a work of art or a work 220 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: of engineering. So, Alex, I know you don't like sea 221 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: life too much, but how you feel. 222 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 2: About legs, they're weirdly fine. And I have learned that 223 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: my phobia is sort of constructed around would it broadly 224 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 2: make sense as a land animal, right? And if sharks 225 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 2: had legs, they would they would basically be some kind 226 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 2: of smooth wolf. And so that's fine. 227 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: They're smooth wolves. That's a good way to put it. 228 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: There's smooth sand papery wolves. Yeah. I like sharks. I 229 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: feel like they are sort of like fish doggies, and 230 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: they're cute and some of them will kill you, but 231 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: they're typically harmless when you look at them as broadly 232 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: in terms of all the species and stuff, and so 233 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: such is the case with the horn shark, which I 234 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: think is a cute one. Horn sharks are goofy cute 235 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: little sharks with spots. They grow only about a meter, 236 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: which is three feet in length. So you know, I 237 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: feel like you could cuddle one of these. You wouldn't 238 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: want to, because, like I think that'd stress the shark out. 239 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: But you know, they also have a few defensive techniques 240 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: which would not be great for cuddling. But still I 241 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: think they're cute. 242 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 2: When I think of shark defensive techniques, I just think 243 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: of biting me at eating me. So is that one 244 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: of them? 245 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: No, not, Actually they will bite, they can't really eat 246 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: you because they're too small, but they do have another 247 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: defensive technique other than biting. They actually have a set 248 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: of two protective spines on each of their dorsal fins 249 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: that can be sharp. So that's, you know, is kind 250 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: of like an anti cuddling barbs going on there, which 251 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: is a shame they are, but their temperament is very sweet. 252 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: They are not that aggressive. They will bite you if 253 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: they're harassed, but otherwise they're very chill. They eat crustaceans, 254 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: small fish, sea urchins, mollusks, other small sea life. They 255 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: do not actively go after your people aggressively because they're 256 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: so sweet. 257 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 2: That's nice. 258 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: They live. Yeah, yeah, they live in the Pacific, off 259 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: the coast of North America down to Mexico. And yeah, 260 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: they're actually so sweet. Their temperament is so good. In 261 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, three people tried to smuggle a horn shark 262 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: out of an aquarium and a baby stroller. A baby stroller. 263 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 2: I immediately was imagining some kind of duffel bag full 264 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,479 Speaker 2: of water. I like that, it's a baby's stroller. 265 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: Baby stroller. Put a pacifier in its mouth and it 266 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: sucks on it like Maggie Simpson. So they scooped the 267 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: shark out of the tank, and they wrapped the shark 268 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: in a wet blanket and put it in a stroller and. 269 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 2: Right, and then shouted, are you calling my baby ugly? 270 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: I don't anyone who even looked at it, like preemptively, 271 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 2: that's the move. Just shame them and that question to 272 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 2: get there. 273 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: So this was in the San Antonio, San Antonio Aquarium. 274 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: The shark's name was Miss Helen. 275 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 2: And this is in Mexico. It's not Santonio, Texas. 276 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: I think it was Texas. 277 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, there's a lot of stuff named after him. 278 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, San Antonio, Yeah, San Antonio Texas is where it was. 279 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: This is definitely a tex This was in Texas. 280 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: Yes, oh phenomenal. 281 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: Isn't where Brenda's from? 282 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 2: Yes? 283 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: Oh yes, so wait to have what was Brenda doing 284 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. 285 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: Telling me she was bringing a child home and then 286 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 2: suddenly dropping the subject. So I don't know, couldn't be here. 287 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, they tried. They wrapped miss Helen this juvenile 288 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: horn shark in a wet blaze get put her in 289 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: a stroller. God the shark did survive. The suspects were apprehended. 290 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: The shark was returned to the aquarium when the thieves 291 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: were caught. The reason they kidnapped this cute baby shark 292 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: is that it sells really well in the pet trade, 293 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: so unfortunately it's not It was not like a shark 294 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: liberation front, which would be misguided, but really funny. This 295 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: was like they were they go for a lot of 296 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: money in the pet trade because they're I mean, because 297 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: they're really pretty in docile. I guess they while it's 298 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: not like a nice life for them, they I guess 299 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: people who have large aquariums they put them in there. 300 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, they they these are survivors. They're pretty hardy 301 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: sharks that are accidentally caught in fishing nets can often 302 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: be returned to the ocean and survive. So they're they're troopers, 303 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: and they're sweet, and they're precious little babies. And while 304 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: you should not roll it around in a baby stroller, 305 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: I love that that did happen, and I wish I 306 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: could have seen it. 307 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so much else to do in San Antonio. 308 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: Go to the river walk, have a breakfast taco rights game. 309 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,719 Speaker 2: They have an astounding new French guy. Now, like, do 310 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 2: that game? 311 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: Put a shark in a s Wait? No, no, okay, 312 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: breakfast burrito, put shark in star Wait. Damn, it's hard. 313 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: It's just like breathing. It's natural for me. So onto 314 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: the eggs because this is really cool. The sharks are 315 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: really cool in their own right. But we're talking about 316 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: the eggs. So like a lot of sharks, they will 317 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: weigh basically egg cases, so they have an egg case 318 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: that covers a developing shark embryo. Some sharks give live birth, 319 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 1: but a lot of sharks will lay these egg cases. 320 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: So egg cases are made up of a tough collagen, 321 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: and different species lay different shapes. Sometimes they're kind of 322 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: like they look like little purses or little crescents. But 323 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: the horn shark egg case are shaped like corkscrews, and 324 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: they are incredible looking. They do not they look like 325 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: you're talking about like hr Giger earlier Geiger. Yes, it 326 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: looks like some science fiction e thingy. It is this 327 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: like beautiful corkscrew. It's smooth, it looks like it's made 328 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: out of plastic, but it is. They're incredible looking. 329 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm seeing the picture and it looks like a 330 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 2: man made augur or cool screw, but also sort of 331 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 2: like a grenade in a good way. It's great. 332 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: You toss it and a little baby shark pops up. 333 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: Oh wow, and then we sing this song. 334 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: No, oh my god, that song has ruined talking about 335 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: shark life cycles. So, but not only is it shaped 336 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 1: like a cork screw, it actually functions like a corkscrew. 337 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: So the shape of this egg case allows the eggsack 338 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: to become wedged in rocky crevices or on the sandy floor, 339 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: and it kind of kind of screws in there, and 340 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: that protects it from both predators and currents and allows 341 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: it to kind of kind of latch onto like a 342 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,959 Speaker 1: get wedged into like a crevice or down in some sand, 343 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 1: so it like it sort of screws in naturally. I've 344 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: read different things regarding how this happens. Some research indicates 345 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: it kind of naturally ends up wedged in crevices just 346 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: due to the shape. I've also read at least one 347 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: source that contends that the shark intentionally picks up the 348 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: egg case and like puts it near a suitable spot 349 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: or kind of wedges it in. But I haven't been 350 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: able to find any really good observational studies about whether 351 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: they do this, whether females like actually themselves manually wedging, 352 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: And the thing that seems more likely is that it 353 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: naturally just kind of like she lays it in an 354 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: area that's pretty suitable and then the just like the 355 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,959 Speaker 1: gravity and currents end up kind of pushing it into crevices. 356 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: But I really wish, and I really hope that they 357 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: find evidence that these sharks are grabbing the egg case 358 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 1: and just screwing it in like a light bulb into 359 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: like into the rocky crevice. 360 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 2: Right, the evidence is a screwdriver, Right, screwdriver, We just 361 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 2: find that and then. 362 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: Ah, man, can you imagine if Tim Allen was a shark. 363 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: H Yeah, making that noise. What I actually want is 364 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 2: shark al right? Al was his friend? Great? 365 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: Wait, which one was out? Was Al? The one on 366 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: the other side of the fence. 367 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 2: No, that's Wilson, which would also be a fantastic shark 368 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 2: because that's just the fin instead of his hair. Right, 369 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 2: But Al is the bearded guy on the show, right, 370 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 2: he was not Pamela Anderson. 371 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: Man. You know what, I never watched that show as 372 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: a kid. I saw that that come on, and that 373 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: was an immediate, immediate channel change. You think you think 374 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: six year old me wants to learn about saws and 375 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: home improvement. I think I could handle that much flannel 376 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: on the television. 377 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 2: No, Right, And they failed to make them all various 378 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 2: species of cuddly sharks. 379 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: If they had been sharks in that show, I would 380 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: have watched it and I probably would have learned how 381 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: to do home improvement, which I assume is the purpose 382 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: of the show. 383 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: It is so distinctly weird that a major character was 384 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: the top of a guy's hat behind a fence. Yeah, like, 385 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: you probably don't know for about seeing it. But Tim 386 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 2: Allen would be in his backyard having whole conversations every 387 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 2: week with the top of a guy's hat and you 388 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: never see his face. 389 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: And that is very shark coded, right, because like sharks 390 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: are super famous in a lot of movies just for 391 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: their fin, which I think that's good branding right there, 392 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: Like your fin or your hat is like just a 393 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: synectic key for you. You've done. You've done good. You've 394 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: done good branding there. 395 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes more much more sense. From a shark. 396 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: He really should have been a shark and really could 397 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 2: have been a shark. You can put a hat on 398 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 2: a fin. No one will stop you. 399 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: You can put a hat on a fin, No one 400 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: will stop you. That's such a good that's such a 401 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 1: good philosophy. Thank you, alex Well. Let that, let that 402 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: settle in that beautiful phrase, and we will take a 403 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: quick break and then we will return wiser and better. 404 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone, provide one picture of you doing that, and 405 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: then you can. 406 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: Cutting a hat on your fin, your dorsal fin. That's right, 407 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: all right, we are back and we are going to 408 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: talk about some complex egg engineering engineering. Wow, I just 409 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: I wrote that joke in my notes and I just 410 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: came up with it. Now I'm really predictable. 411 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 2: I mean is how the English language works, folks. It's 412 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 2: it's what's coming, you know, right, put a hat on 413 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 2: a fin too. I have a lot of commands this week, 414 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 2: but a hat on a fin. 415 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: So this comes, uh, this, this incredible egg engineering feet 416 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: comes from one of the most deadly, most despised animals 417 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: on the planet. Can you guess, Alex, an. 418 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 2: Even bigger shark, like a mega shack. 419 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: Go in the opposite direction, an even smaller shark. I 420 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: walked into that when I set that one up. No, 421 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: this is the mosquito. Mosquito. Yes, the common house mosquitoes 422 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: lay their eggs in fresh, slow moving or stagnant water. 423 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: As you may have known, Like if you live anywhere 424 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: where there's like bodies of water, but it maybe ponds, 425 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: and it's during mosquito season and they're just freaking everywhere 426 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: biting you up. It's because they use stagnant water to 427 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: lay their eggs. 428 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, gross, cut it out, cut it. 429 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: Out, knock it off. But yeah, so when the eggs hatch, 430 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: the mosquito larvae is aquatic. It breathes air through a 431 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,719 Speaker 1: tube on their butt, So their rear ends have a 432 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 1: tube that they breathe through, and they kind of float 433 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: bottoms up and will feed on microscopic organisms in the water, 434 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: and then they will molt into their adult flying forms, 435 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: and then they go around being pests and spreading disease 436 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: but also providing food for a lot of animals. 437 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: Breathing through a tube of the butt feels like something 438 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 2: some kind of pseudoscience health influencer will try to tell 439 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 2: me I can do, man, you know what I mean. Yeah, Like, 440 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 2: if you just tried harder, you would be doing this. 441 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: I definitely see butt sunbathing where you're supposed to go 442 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: naked and like hold your butt out to the sun 443 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: and it's supposed to do something I would caution against 444 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: it unless you put sunscreen on your butt, in which case, 445 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 1: you know, go for it. I'm not going to tell 446 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: you now, but yeah, this is definitely this is definitely 447 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 1: Goop Goop esque breathing through your butt with like a 448 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: straw essentially. I think they sell those actually butt straws. 449 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 2: To breathe through, right, because there first they tell you 450 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 2: can do it literally, and then when you find out 451 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 2: you can't, they'll be like, actually, like spiritually, you can 452 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 2: do it if you just align your chakras to breathe 453 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 2: right through the butt. And I know chakras are a 454 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 2: real thing in a specific way, but like Internet, people 455 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 2: use it for the nonsense. 456 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 1: Definitely not what you're saying, Alex in terms of something 457 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: you can breathe through your butt. You've just offended so many, 458 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: so many people. Uh yeah, but yeah, I definitely could 459 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: see there being like a sort of h woo woo 460 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: spiritual grift of breathing energy through your butt. 461 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 2: Right, you're getting bad energy through your mouth, right, somehow, 462 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 2: the good one we'll come through your butt. 463 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they just sell you basically an enema or something. Anyways, 464 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: I these these mosquitoes are actually breathing air, oxygenated air 465 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: through their their butt tubes. H. But we are talking 466 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: about the eggs because the eggs that the mosquitoes lay 467 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: in the water are particularly interesting because this species of mosquito, 468 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: along with other species, but we're talking about the common 469 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: house mosquito, they lay egg rafts, So egg rafts rafts 470 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: made out of eggs. These are tiny rafts made out 471 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: of hundreds of eggs. The eggs are so small that 472 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: each raft is only a fraction of an inch big. 473 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: Like there's I've shared a couple of photos with you. 474 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: One is of the raft and it looks like a 475 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: bunch of grains of rice, kind of like stuck together 476 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: into a floating raft form. But they are much smaller 477 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: than rice, way smaller than rice. 478 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, rice is dead on or like a brief toothbrush bristle, 479 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 2: like a bunch of toothbrush. It kind of looks like 480 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 2: a tooth brush short, too short for my teeth. 481 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: Gotta be thinking about that when I brush my teeth, 482 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: Like this is like mosquito eggs that I'm rubbing on 483 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: my teeth. Thanks for that. 484 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad I can bring that to the world. 485 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: You're welcome. 486 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, but yeah, this the scale of it is 487 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: kind of hard to tell from this photo. But there's 488 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: another photo of like you see, it's like it's just 489 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: this tiny. The entire raft itself is smaller than a 490 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: grain of rice, and it fits on like your finger, 491 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: very tippy tip of your fingertip. So each egg is 492 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: really really tiny. 493 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 2: But I guess it's still bigger than I imagine somehow. Yeah, 494 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 2: it's tiny for sure. And then I just I somehow 495 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 2: I think of all mosquito things as being microscopic, even 496 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: though they are big enough to see. 497 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but still like the thing that you're seeing, the 498 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: visible thing on the finger that is like still smaller 499 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: than a grain of rice, is hundreds of eggs. That's 500 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: like hundreds of eggs all together as this raft and 501 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: so the Yeah, so basically the raft is formed through 502 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: this cluster of vertical eggs, and the raft is buoyant 503 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: due to a bubble of air inside the egg and 504 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: the exterior of the egg being water resistant. So it's 505 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: like an inflatable raft. But it's made out of mosquito eggs. 506 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, I mean that's just cool. Yeah, good for them, 507 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 2: and a good use of their weird, stagnant water rather 508 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 2: than the flowing water that us proper people like. 509 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: It's proper polite society likes flowing water. But yeah, I 510 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: mean the reason they want these to float is like, 511 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: if you are setting it up such that when they hatch, 512 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: they want to be floating butt up so they can 513 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: breathe through that butt straw. You want to be on 514 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: the surface of the water. You don't want to be, 515 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: you know, kind of settled to the bottom of the 516 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: water or get eaten by a fish. 517 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 2: Oh, it's all coming together Yeah, the butt tube was 518 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 2: so critical to the engineering and the understanding. 519 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: The butt tube is sort of so like they can 520 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: like hang out in water, benefit from the nutrients in 521 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: the water, and then when they hatch, they you know, 522 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,479 Speaker 1: fly off and are a menace. 523 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 2: It's like it's like a little chorus and a cartoon, 524 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 2: Like when a dozen cartoon characters are singing, all their 525 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 2: mouths are up, you know, but this is their butts 526 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 2: are up. 527 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: But it's the butts, the butts that are up. Yeah, 528 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: that's not the first thing that pops into my head, 529 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: but you know, let's go with that. 530 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 2: I guess I'm very musical. 531 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. 532 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. 533 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: I once found a bunch of mosquito larva in a 534 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: I guess it was a wheelbarrow that had been rained 535 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: in And I didn't know anything about anything because I 536 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: was I was a kid, and so I just thought 537 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: I had discovered a new type of cool tiny water bug. 538 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: And so I thought maybe they were sea monkeys, naturally 539 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: occurring sea monkeys. Sea monkeys, by the way, are just 540 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: brine shrimp. But these I collected a bunch of them 541 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: in a jar. I brought them home. I was so 542 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: excited about it and I showed my parents are like, oh, 543 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: that's mosquito larva. Like you say, what, Like, that's a 544 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: bunch of mosquito larva. I'm like, I'm pretty sure these 545 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: are sea monkeys that I found in our backyard, mom 546 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: and dad, and uh, but yeah, it turned out that 547 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: they were indeed mosquito larva. So I brought them this 548 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: show and tell my teacher was you know, looking at 549 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: it through personal lips. Yeah, I uh, but you know, 550 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: I kept it sealed. She was like very concerned. She's 551 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: like that that's keep that jar closed, please. And then 552 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: and then I brought it home and I think I 553 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: gave it to my dad and I think he like 554 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: flushed him or something. I'm not really sure what happened. Uh. 555 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: They certainly were not given an opportunity to turn into 556 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: a bunch of mosquitos inside of the home. 557 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 2: I have so many questions about the flow of this because, like, 558 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 2: because at least one of your parents has a lot 559 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 2: of like biological training, right. 560 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: Like under stops, No, they just you're an or something. 561 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: Well yeah, so he he yeah, he's a he's an 562 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: engineer who works for an oceanography But I don't know 563 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: if that helps you with mosquito larva. I think it 564 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: was just they'd seen their fair share of mosquito larva. 565 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 2: I see, okay, yeah, because I was imagining some big 566 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 2: gulf of knowledge between your parents knowing a lot and 567 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 2: your teacher not knowing that stuff, so that they just 568 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 2: kind he was going to bring some larvae'd be cool 569 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 2: about it. 570 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: You know. I think the teacher also knew it was larva, 571 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: and she was just like, didn't want a bunch of 572 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: mosquito larva to get lease in the classroom, which is reasonable, 573 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 1: I think. 574 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 2: Right at every turn, young Katie is running into jerk 575 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 2: squares burnt down with her mosquito larvae liberation plans. 576 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: Like I found a puppy and it's just a lot 577 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:42,240 Speaker 1: of cockroaches, a lot of cockroaches. Like that's not a puppy. 578 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: It's like, well, I think it's a puppy and I'm 579 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: bringing it to show and tell. But yeah, so that's 580 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: the Mosquito larva are really fascinating. They're really interesting looking. 581 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: The way that they breathe through their rear end is 582 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: really cool, and they kind of move around in a 583 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: really cool way, and they look interesting. There's sort of 584 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: this kind of like almost like they look like weird 585 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: not curly shrimp, but really tiny and they're very strange looking. 586 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: And but yeah, it's it is. It's like I think 587 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: that when we consider the humble mosquito, we just think 588 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 1: about the adults that are super annoying, but not these 589 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: really interesting earlier morphs of the mosquito. And it is 590 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 1: it's still a really interesting little animal, despite how destructive 591 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: it is. 592 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is such a global feature, right, like 593 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 2: like some some various species will not be near you 594 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 2: when you think about them, but like these are all 595 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 2: around us. Mosquitoes are They're all over the earth because 596 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 2: they build these weird rafts and that's on top of the. 597 00:36:52,680 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: Raft trans atlantic everywhere. Yeah, they're everywhere. They cause a 598 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: lot of diseases. They're they're not not great in terms 599 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: of you know, disease spread, but they are they're important 600 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 1: for the ecosystem. So you know, we uh, it is 601 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 1: it's important to both respect them but also try to 602 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: protect people from malaria, which we can do both. I shrink. Yeah, Yeah, 603 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: there's room, there's room. Yeah, And there's so many mosquitoes. 604 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: We can kill a lot of them. It's hard to 605 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: kill a good amount of them, and there they will 606 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: still be around. But you know, but yeah, they do 607 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: build rafts, so in that way, they are somewhat like 608 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: Tom Hanks. Yeah. 609 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 2: I have never had occasion to construct a raft, and 610 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 2: I think if somebody approached me about it, I would 611 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 2: ask if we are stranded or something. Right, it feels 612 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 2: like definite mistake on a sandy island activity, right. 613 00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 1: I feel like I would die in that situation because 614 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 1: I don't think I could build a raft. I'd probably 615 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: get distracted and do a wicker chair or something, and 616 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: probably try to make it too fancy, and then the 617 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: whole thing would sink like a small wooden Titanic, like 618 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: I shouldn't. Maybe I shouldn't have had a had a 619 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 1: bar and a conversation pit on this raft. 620 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 2: I knew I shouldn't have fallen in love with someone 621 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 2: from a different social class. On the raft there wasn't. 622 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: Rube at all. So yes, Mosquitoes build the world's tiniest rafts, 623 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: and that's pretty cool. But before we go, we gotta 624 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: play a little game. Alex, you like games like games. 625 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,720 Speaker 1: This game is called Gets You Squawking. It's the Mystery 626 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: Animal sound game. Every week I play mystery animal sound 627 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 1: and you the listener, and you the guest kind I 628 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 1: guess who's making that sound. It can be any animal 629 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: in the world, world or out of the world. I 630 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: don't know. Once we find him it could be. Uh. 631 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, last week's mystery animal sound hint was this, 632 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 1: Do not adjust your television and ignore the barking in 633 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,720 Speaker 1: the background. This hissor is better off in a manger. 634 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: All right, Alex, did you hear that beautiful noise? 635 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 2: Yes? 636 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that that beautiful hissing sound. 637 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. It it sounds like something leaking but cooler. 638 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: Uh. 639 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 2: I almost feel like it's like an ambient purring, but weird, 640 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 2: like some kind of is it? Is it some kind 641 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 2: of like fox or something like oh with a fox's 642 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 2: good guess. 643 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: Foxes can make some pretty weird noises. You are wrong, 644 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: so you're not going home with a brand new Ford Fiesta. 645 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 1: This is a young barn owl hissing, So congratulations to 646 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 1: cat s and Heather E who getsed correctly. Yeah, this 647 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 1: is a barn owl. Barn owls are cosmopolitan. They are 648 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: found almost everywhere in the world except in extremely hot, 649 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: desert or extremely cold arctic climates. And in a lot 650 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 1: of islands they're not found, but otherwise they are pretty cosmopolitan. 651 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 1: They have a white heart shaped face, white bellies in 652 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:53,760 Speaker 1: tan backs, and sort of tan heads that like wraps 653 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 1: around their face like a hood. They're beautiful owls. They're 654 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: one of the most beautiful owls I think, and they're 655 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: often sort of used in movies to like, oh, look 656 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:15,760 Speaker 1: at this owl. Very elegant, owlegant. They feed on small rodents, reptiles, amphibians, 657 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: and insect and insects as well as the occasional small bird. 658 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: Because they have a fold to seek out dry, pre 659 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: existing shelters for their nests, they often roost in old buildings, 660 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:34,399 Speaker 1: particularly barns, which are open structures, so this is why 661 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: they're called barn owls. Barn owls do not hoot. They 662 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: either shriek or hiss. The sounds that come out of 663 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 1: them are horrifying. Despite looking so beautiful and elegant. They 664 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: don't like if you hear a beautiful hoot and you're 665 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: watching a movie and then you see like a barn 666 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,760 Speaker 1: owl pictured like the movie is lying to you. Because 667 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: barn owls do not hoot, go wok. Right. 668 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,760 Speaker 2: The hooting was probably from one of the human romantic leads, 669 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 2: and they were hooting at each other. And you're confused yet. 670 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 1: But yes, so that is the sound of a barn owl. 671 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,760 Speaker 2: That's such a gift to get to hoot as an animal, 672 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 2: and it's weird that they'd passed that up to hiss. 673 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,240 Speaker 2: But I guess they want snake privilege, and they. 674 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 1: Want that snake privilege. Yeah, I mean the the hissing 675 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: is a little more threatening, I guess, But yeah, hooting is. 676 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 1: I do like a. 677 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 2: Hoot, fantastic. 678 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,720 Speaker 1: It's a great sound, a little yeah. 679 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and every owl we would accept it from, but 680 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,720 Speaker 2: barn owls are like, don't need it now, yes. 681 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:53,320 Speaker 1: S, and your attic, so onto this week's mystery animal 682 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 1: sound of the hint is this, don't add this fuzzy 683 00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: fellow to your fruit salad? All right, alex any guesses. 684 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 2: I want it to be something so cute, but it's 685 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 2: probably fuzzy and I probably ate it in a fruit salad, So. 686 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 1: I told you not to. Don't add this fuzzy fellow 687 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: to your fruit salad. 688 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 2: I'm just so rebellious. I think, let's say it's gonna 689 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 2: be some kind of colorful frog. There's all those colorful 690 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 2: frogs at in the rainforest there. 691 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,479 Speaker 1: Maybe one of those colorful frog is Alex's guess Yeah, 692 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 1: do you out there have a guess right to me 693 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 1: at Creature featurepot at gmail dot com. And if you 694 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,319 Speaker 1: guess correctly, maybe I'll be like, hey, good job you 695 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 1: did it, but yeah, and we will find out who 696 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 1: is making that sound on the next episodisode of Creature Feature. Alex, 697 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining me today. Where can 698 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 1: people find you? Are there perhaps other podcasts that you do? 699 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 2: It is such a joy to make secretly incredibly fascinating 700 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 2: with you buddy every week. It's a lot of fun 701 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 2: and I hope people check it out. 702 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,359 Speaker 1: Do you check it out? It's it's really great. I 703 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 1: like it because Alex does most of the work on 704 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 1: that show, so that makes me happy. 705 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,879 Speaker 2: Advice on this it's a joy. It's great. 706 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 1: It's fun to not do work and to talk. That's 707 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: the always a benefit of no but it's it's an 708 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: excellent show. I really enjoy being on it. I feel like, well, 709 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 1: thank you, but I it's the Alex energy is makes 710 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,359 Speaker 1: it a real fun show and I learn a lot, 711 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 1: so I assume you also learn a lot. So yeah, 712 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,720 Speaker 1: get secretly incredibly fascinated. Thank you guys so much for listening. 713 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: You're enjoying the show, and you leave a rating or review. 714 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 1: I would be so pleased to see that because I 715 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 1: read every single review. All the ratings really do help me. 716 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 1: It's fantastic, And thank you to the Space Classics for 717 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 1: there's super awesome song. Exo Lumina Creature features a production 718 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts like the one you just heard, 719 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 1: visit the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts, or Hey guess what, 720 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 1: wherever you listen to your favorite shows. I don't judge you, 721 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 1: not your mother. I can't tell you what to do. 722 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: You got to live your own life, make your own mistakes, 723 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 1: you know, get out on your tiny little mosquito raft 724 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 1: and just ride those waves that we call life. I'll 725 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 1: see you next Wednesday. 726 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 2: I also breathe that up your butt. That's required.